Ep. 14 Mike Rowe on Lockdowns, Safety Third, Dignity of Work and College Loans
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- You’ve heard the mantra “safety first.”
Politicians used it as a justification for Covid lockdowns.
But Mike Rowe, former host of "Dirty Jobs”, has his own slogan: “safety third.”
Why “safety third?” It’s easy to save lives, says Rowe, but LIVING life is more important.
I made a couple of short videos with Rowe.
But he has a lot of other interesting things to say on lockdowns, why college is a waste of money, the dignity of work, and more.
So here is our full interview.
John and Mike are REAL American Heros that are also truth tellers. They are two of only real reporters left.
I like Jimmy Dore too!
I don’t like the “real and dangerous” statement that Mike said towards the end about the sniffles, but other than that I agree with you!
Never heard either one talk about the fraudulent nature of the social security system
So college gets you far more money? I spent 40 years as a professional geologist. The last 25 in environmental consulting. My degree was less than $8,000 tuition. When I retired the most I could charge for my senior management services where I live was about $100 per hour. At the time of my retirement my mechanic charged me $90 per hour. My plumber recently charged me $180 to spend 45 minutes reaming out a line under my house. Both of these guys learned their skills on the job with no education debt. Yet they are expected to pay off the inflated university tuition. No way!
What people don't understand is the $180 for the plumber and the $90 for the mechanic is what the company charges to run the company. Mechanics at my dealership made $10.50 per hour while the dealership charged $75 per hour. I hired a master plumber in 1976 for $23 per hour when companies were charging over $100 per hour. My nephew was making $9 per hour as a furnace installer, while his company was charging $200 per hour.
@@cqking7465 its called the mutiplier. It is standard model for most service businesses. I didn't make $100 per hour. The mutipler on my labor was about 2.7. Some staff had a multiplier of 3.5 The mutiplier pays for the business overhead. Insurance, office, equipment, unbillable labor, etc. My point in the comment was that a college degree doesn't necessarily equate to significantly more income.
It definitely depends on the degree
But for sure most degrees do NOT pay for themselves, trade school jobs (or on the job learning) pay better than 90% of degrees
That other 10% mainly being engineers
@cqking7465 as the owner of a plumbing company I see that you obviously have zero clue what costs are involved for a business other than an employee salary.
@kenweaver1329 Not so. My salary was not $100 per hour. I can only wish. Service companies like what I was in work on a multiplier basis. You're company likely does also. My multiplier was about 2.5 as a manager. Most staff had about a 3.0 or a little higher. So about 3/4 to 1/3 of the billing rate went to company operation, overhead and profit. Much likely like yours. You missed the point of my comment; having a degree does not necessarily mean significantly higher value.
Great interview. Thank you. I have been an auto and truck mechanic for 52 years, and I never regretted it. The satisfaction of repairing a vehicle is great. Thanks again.
Construction work was satisfying.
I do my own car work, and I gotta say
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!! I feel like I'm going to break my hand just trying to change spark plugs >
My middle child did not go to college straight out of high school. He became an EMT and worked at 4 different firehouses.
His dream was to become a lineman and at soon to be 29, he is one for the last 5 years, and is now going to online college that his employer is funding! He will have a bachelors degree at the end and it did not cost a dime for him but he has paid in blood, sweat and tears!
The politicians forget that this money is not theirs to give away. My wife and I paid off our loans, they should do the same. Live within your means.
YUP!
Dropped out of school in 10th grade. Started working on vehicles. My first real job was at a newly opened Cadillac Dealership in north Atlanta. 1973. Started as a porter. Learned to repair by watching the older Mechanics. Now I’m retired. Retired in 2008. Payed for $800k home on 7 acres. My father told me when I started in this field that I would be nothing but a DAMNED old mechanic.
And your dad was right. You are nothing but a Damned old (retired) mechanic living in a $800+K home, sitting on 7 acres. Good for you Mark.
You can't do that anymore. No dealership will hire a 16-18 year old kid to work on cars, let alone an established adult without certification. You have to have some sort of proof of what you know these days or you are screwed. I am in my 40s now, dropped out like you after 10th grade, and worked my way through life until 36. I couldn't advance in any job past a supervisor because I had no formal education. So, I went and got a bachelor's degree and now I'm fighting younger people despite having decades of experience. There's no good way about it anymore.
That's a million dollar property now, easily.
From experience I would guess, you put in many 60 hours a week or you built your house yourself.
Sadly anyway you color it WTP are being being taken advantage of. 😢 Sadly divide and conquer . And it's working 😢😢😢
Graduated from a college prep Catholic high school in 1978 college was not for me after 2 years went into the regular Air Force serving 4 years. After went into law enforcement but continued to serve in the military reserves, totally retiring in 2019. I always appreciated the working class people who kept our society moving daily. John and Mike bring clear reason to what our society has come from and where we are heading. Thank you gentlemen
I have 2 grown boys. We did pre-paid college for both. But only 2 years of community college/2 years of state college. Anything beyond that was on them. The oldest went, changed his degree & had to shoulder the extra cost. He worked full time while attending full time & graduated w/zero debt. Yes it took 6 years… but he did it. My youngest took a couple of classes & decided it wasn’t for him. We knew he wasn’t college material. & were good with it. He wanted to be a butcher. He’s now a Asst Manager in the Meat Department w/Publix. He started there at 16 years old. & he loves it. My oldest is teaching 1st grade. They are happy, love their careers & are contributing members of society. I am beyond proud of them!!
I went to see my old shop teacher years ago and noticed all of the machines and power tools were gone and locked up. I asked him about it and he told that these kids today are stupid. He had to lock them up because they were getting hurt with them. They couldn’t or wouldn’t follow basic shop safety.
My Granddaughter is taking agricultural welding in High School. She will be certified when she graduates
And almost for sure get a good paying job.
Welders make big money. My brother was a welder and I ran heavy equipment. If I was in a union, I would have made a lot more . But that's OK, I'm happily retired.
Hopefully she will make more than the $1 above minimum wage the two certified welders were making before we hired them to do apartment maintenance.
@@cqking7465 Sure 🤡
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The government has an easy time indoctrinating students. It is much harder to indoctrinate tradespeople.
Lol show me a woke plumber maybe 1% and they will never make it long in the trades
I paid for all 4 of my children to go to college. What’d I get? 4 radicalized graduates. I’ve re-educated 2 and the other 2 are in too deep I’m afraid.
Curiousity
What degrees did they get?
@@skylerbowerbank5847 2 mental health field, 2 BA in finance. see what happened... speaks for it self
Thanks! I hope everyone sees this!
They never ever talk about lowering the cost of college. Classic government looking at the wrong side of a problem.
Mobsters helping their friends. Why wouldn't they try to fund more brainwashing centers and make it more appealing for even more people to go through the system?
Gotta make them voters happy 🙄
How about we just remove student loans all together and see how quickly colleges start lowing their price
The administrations of colleges are so bloated and don't get me started on the textbook industry.
So true, the same argument and pattern in healthcare 😢
The cost of college would go down if there was less demand for it too, and its proving to be true since a lot of businesses have seen that the graduates with those degrees are basically worthless for most of those pieces of paper. Better to hire a high school graduate and teach them how to do the job.
Having run a small construction company for 40 years, my cost for tools and trucks is constant. More than a college degree by far.
I am a baby boomer and it was you go to college or you are less than those that did attend. So I went to college and graduated. It was the worst decision I ever made. I worked for the same company for 30 years. I could have done the same job without and education. I wish I had gone to Trade school. Jeff and Mike keep getting the word out.
I went to college for a B.A. in art education. Worst waste of money ever! Over 15 years later and nothing to show for it. The college was filled with full time professors that have a chip on their shoulders and with glee destroy most of your efforts (adjuncts were a much more enjoyable bunch). I don't expect anyone to pay for me making a stupid decision. I was fed the line "you must go to college or youre going to be working at a grocery store (guess where I work) in the 00's. Keep preaching Mike!
In the 1970s, it was obvious that many degrees were not worth it. Professors need students to keep their job. That is their bottom line.
Great interview 2 down to earth people.
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I served in the U.S. military for 24 years, and continued my education upon my retirement, finishing my Ph.D. in 2011. Although the GI Bill helped, I still took out $40K in loans, and paid every cent back, finishing last year. You know why? Because I understood the definition of a L.O.A.N.
John and Mike are American legends and heros
Heros are sandwich
@@SteveXNYC Mega sandwich 👊
They may be; but they tend to exaggerate what a skilled tradesman can expect to make unless he is running his own business or works for his/her father.
@cqking7465 I know a 86 year old man pulling over 120k a year pumping poop . It's not that hard and you just need the truck and a good one will be less costly then a 4 year degree from a good school . They may be exaggerating perhaps but this side of the story needs told as well
I knew this was going to be a great discussion. I saw the two guys faces and quickly clicked. Top five discussions of the year!!! Great job Mike and John!!!!
Super glad I had in "in" into the Land Surveying industry through my Father after the Military.
Worked with him every weekend growing up in the summers.
Started out as a Rod Man. Worked my way up to Crew Chief then Staff Surveyor (office position) before taking the LSIT then getting my License. This was right before most New England states put into place rules that made a college degree necessary as well as continuing education (aka give us your money).
All I needed was ten+ years IRC and a recommendation from a Licensed Land Surveyor (my Father) to take the exam and go before the Boards in 3 New England states.
Opened my own doors as a Consultant to Engineering firms to avoid conflicts in other states. I never practiced Land Surveying in other states. Was merely paid by larger companies to tell THEM how to survey better and with more profitability.
Made my monies in less than 6 years before the crash in 2008.
Retired in 2013.
Future securities ensured.
My twin boys both work in the casino industry now at 27 years old and earn more in a year than I ever thought possible. And I earned well.
Good parenting begets good parenting.
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I’m 62 and I’ve been in construction for 40 years coming up in July!
The people who are in a rush to tell you to go into construction without mentioning any of the downsides are just as bad as the people that tell you to go blindly to college.
Construction isn’t for everyone! There are pros and cons to everything, all aspects of construction carry downside, the more technical you get the more education you need.
If you want to labor for your entire life I think you’re in for a big wake up call at around 35.
Look out for yourself, do what’s best for you, don’t listen to anyone, research and ask people doing the actual work, ASK THE PEOPLE DOING THE ACTUAL WORK WHAT THE PROS AND CONS ARE!!!!!!
Thanks for saying it. I have a page of notes to rip Mike apart in a coming comment. I left commercial building at 27 to go back to college. NEVER going back to the trades. You are down to earth. Not Mike fricken Rowe. Best of luck to you!!!
Voices of reason. Thanks guys.
I went to college; however, ended up resetting and learning a trade, now am retired and out of debt and living very well on my retirement. I took shop class in middle school and high school, that helped me realize I could do something else, when I needed to. Those trade/shop classes no longer exist, wow. Telling our young people they can't be a success without a college education is a mistake.
I'd support college loan forgiveness _IF_ they ...
1. Fire 90% of college administrators
2. Reduce the pay of the remaining Administrators by 60%
3. Reduce the pay of these woke professors by 60-70%
4. Stop *ALL* DEI programs and make college admissions 100% on merit.
Google changed my message, and it is pr
Loan forgiveness in an era of DEI is racism
yeah but that would last about a year before the colleges all got bloated again.
All of that is irrelevant. Nobody should be paying for the bad decisions others. Period.
You can go ahead and add criminal fraud prosecutions as well if the argument is these students were defrauded. Against the banks, against the guidance counselors, and against the admissions officers, where appropriate.
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The US Taxpayer has been covering student loan deficits since 1965.
We have been subsidising all universities through grants much longer.
Isn't around the time of student loans when college started getting outrageous?
In the 2200s snobbish kids will be riding trains to sit in classrooms because the govt can't tell when it's time for a business model to die
Love these two men!! God bless you both 💙🙏
When i went to college, i worked at restaurants, did cleaning at motel, tutoring to pay for my expenses. If you don't want to work just borrowing from gov't then you have no right to expect others to pay for your debts!
I ❤️ this. I'm a 70s baby and college was the path my parents highly encouraged. There is a negative stigma to the vocational arts, but fortunately the pendulum is swinging.
Mike's right I could see the disgust my teachers had to hear I was going to vo- tech and not college they didn't actually say "you'll never amount to anything " but the facial expression said it all
Keep on producing this good material.
Man, Mike hit the proverbial nail square on the head. I went to college back in the early 70's when I was told that's how you get the skills to have a career. When I graduated, I couldn't get a job because I didn't have "experience". Joined the military and learned the telephone and computer skills I needed to have a successful post military career. Worked that trade for 22 years after retiring from the Air Force and have seen first hand the change in mentality regarding college and career.
You pivoted to make it work. The younger generation just smacks their head on the wall until the government steps in.
Love the long form video, John. Keep up the good work.
I looked up my college and found that it costs twenty times as much to go there as compared to 1989. What changed? Professor salaries. Evidently being a prof is now a six figure job.
I think you will find the administrator class has doubled or tripled over the last 40 years. Same as hospitals. And yet in real terms the teachers/professors wages haven't increased, but the administration wages has gone over the top.
I'd bet that the number of people in administration tripled too....
More governmental subsidies and easier to stain governmentally subsidized “loans”. The more available money the more people will find a way to get it.
College grants when they started making college grants free to students they started charging more for college
Faculty increased 10x as well, not just professors salaries….
Well, transferring student loans to the taxpayer not only buys the vote of the college credential holder, but keeps the professors and administrators earning obscene salaries.
I'm sure someone in the comments has already mentioned this but the way to make College more affordable is to look at the salaries the presidents and vice presidents running the college as well as the cost of course materials. There's so much bloat at the top end of the administration's at colleges and universities that's where the added cost is coming from compared to previous generations who could afford to work a part-time job while going to get their degree.
As always, Mike Rowe is right.
Great audio. Mike is stellar! Especially like the "certainty vs accuracy" point; yup!
I paid off my student loans. The first thing I did. I lived in a crap apartment and saved every penny. I don’t have sympathy for those people now that want their student loans forgiven. I know things are different now than they were then, but still, you chose to take out the loans you must be responsible for paying them. And I saw an article where they said $7000 of student loans be forgiven, and the college instantly raised their tuition by $7000.
Our government is quick to jump on price gouging but not when it comes to college. Time to change that.
As a general rule: In the balance between safety and freedom, lean towards freedom.
Is it persuasive? No it’s not persuasive. It’s pure BS. I loved it when he pointed that out.
It’s all about balance. Not everyone can go into college not everyone can go into vocational training. I did not go to college but applied my self into a six figure job.
In the late 90s when I was in high school they were sending everyone to college. I saw every kid get told they should go to college. Some people aren't cut out for careers that require a lot of book learning. Those kids should have been recommended for welding, carpentry, electrician work, and so on. There shouldn't be a stigma against those jobs. It doesn't matter how advanced we are, in 10 years we will still need welders, plumbers, carpenters, electricians, and so on. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I was one of those kids. I joined the USAF, never made it past an associate's, but now I make six figures as a network engineer.
If we want to reduce the cost of education, we should stop funding nonsense degrees for people who can't get the useful degrees just so they can say they have a degree.
We need a guy like Mike Rowe for president! Someone with practical common sense. Dear Lord, look what we have to choose from now. We need help!
Mike Rowe is the GOAT.
I took shop class, given the choice of that or home-ec - it sounded a lot more fun. I liked seeing what the boys were doing. It was the only class I ever enjoyed. LOVED IT. It's a real shame this is no longer an option in school.
John Stossel is Awesome!
All public funding for education should cease. The quality and diversity of education would increase dramatically if it were ALL privately funded.
How about school choice?
We're going to have to pay taxes anyways, why not choose where our kids go?
Because the government is backing these lones cost to go to school keeps going up.
What people don't address about student loans is the 4+ year luxury experience. The 5 star dining halls, luxury dorm rooms, state of the art rec centers, top level arena/stadiums. Why are we being forced to pay for a luxury college experience.
Some people get that degree, so they can get a good job and spend their weekends welding, restoring cars, fishing, finishing their basement or many of the other things they could have done for a living.
Supply and demand. Degrees are in high demand, college attendance is in short supply. Gov’t needs to stay out of the free market.
People and CHILDREN need to understand that not all "investments" work out. Sometimes, even often times, you will take a loss on many business deals and decisions. That is life. All u can really do is work hard, be honest, and seek excellence in your work and efforts. U reap what u sow it is a UNIVERSal principle!
Also... School and college isn't necessary. I would rather have an employee who is honest, and hungry for excellence VS a "highly educated" individual. Get real work experience when you're young, that is most valued.
Mike Rowe! 👍🏻
6:11 it's ASTOUNDING that shop class isn't a thing anymore.
A guy learned carpentry in prison. Got out and got a job as a framer. He owns his own company as a custom home builder. During covid, he emptied his savings, but all his employees got a paycheck during the shutdown.
Another guy, 28 years old brings home $4000/week doing HVAC.
A gal who is a dog groomer, paid cash for a $20,000 A/C unit.
No college degrees and no debt.
Great interview with Mr Rowe.
The reason they want to pay for student loans and not the diesel truck is not because the diploma is considered more laudable. It’s because the people with the student loans vote Democrat and the people with the diesel trucks don’t
I think the best argument for forgiving student loans is a culture, especially strong in some areas, that tricks teens into thinking they have to go to college to be successful regardless of whether they should be going or not. The only case I would be fine with forgiving student loans is if there were no new government student loans given afterwards (which wont happen).
I really think universities should be for:
1) well off people that can just pay for it or have their family finance it
2) people who show promise and therefore pay with scholarships
There is just way too much going for technical schools to not recommend them to people outside of those categories (or just get a job).
When i went to college it cost about $6 to 800 a year. Government got involved giving loans and now its 45-60k.
As a doctor I don't recommend going to college or university unless it's payed for
I totally agree! Pay off my truck and send me money!
This is the guy California needs for governor
I think Mike Rowe glossed over something very important, which makes sense considering he is promoting his foundation. But he said he paid somewhere between 7 and 8k for his 4 year degree. This is the real problem. College should still be an option, but the fact that the same degree now costs over 100k is the insanity. I studied engineering , and I paid off my loan, but i woild much rather spent thst money in a house, jajajajaja.
The argument is not whether loan forgiveness makes sense, i agree that is the dumbest thing ever, but the price of college needs to go down, especially if they are being paid with federal money anywyas (aka student loans).
I listen to stories about college debt and not going to college to avoid all of the debt but never hear anyone talking about joining the national guard in your state. Most states offer 100% paid tuition. Look it up.
For the thousandth time...
I don't want student loan forgiveness. I want the job market to be restored so that I can afford to pay the loan.
Thanks to Obamacare, my jobs (yes I have 2) are never going to be full time again. I need 2 part time jobs (sometimes 3) to make ends meet.
Thanks to Dept. of Education, the job I wanted (Reading Specialist) needed graduate level credits. After I took out the loan, the DOE changed the rules and you don't need graduate level credits. So thanks to union pay scales, it will always be cheaper to hire someone without the credits and I will never be offered that job.
It's not about student loans, and it's not only the cost of college.
GET THE FEDS OUT OF EDUCATION ALTOGETHER!
I grew up watching John and his "Give me a break" segments on 20/20. I always enjoyed his perspective and his honesty. With Mike, he has done a lot to honor and legitimize blue collar work (not that it needed legitimacy, but the perception has not been so). I respect both of these men for what they have done in their fields for decades. But I disagree with their lack of understanding of where we are. We all know what brought us here, but we need a real solution to get us out of this problem.
Allowing 17 or 18 year old people to sign onto loans that can be in excess of $50k is an insane idea. What can we do to not only end the madness of unfettered loans for pointless degrees (because virtually all degree-necessary fields are over-saturated), but to balance the interest so that blue collar careers are more desirable? We know there's a problem, but instead of working to find a solution, we just put down those who are doing what they were told they are supposed to do and ignore how massive a mountain they have to climb and can't get even half way up because it's so big and they are ill-equipped due to no jobs available to pay their daily bills let alone their loans.
My thought is, if we erase the interest and finance costs of student loans, and focus on the payback of just the principal we can help people get out of that end of the pool. At the same time, we need to make it okay for those same people to shift focus to blue collar work. So, just because you are an English major, it doesn't mean you can't become a welder, plumber, or electrician. We need to be encouraging and positive about the shift and make it 100% okay to realize things don't always go to plan (and more often they don't), so find something that keeps you alive and can be fruitful.
I worked two jobs, put myself through art school (via community college), and then moved to NYC on an old motorcycle with everything I owned in a backpack. It was really touch and go for a while, but now I have 4 published novels, my art is in 100s of comics, magazines, and books, and I own a tattoo shop.
And I have to pay for your college?
Read Temple Grandin‘s newest book. I think Mike Rowe would agree with everything she says in that book. It’s basically about how different people have brains that work in different ways. And how some of those people are getting basically ignored now and their skills are not valued, but it is causing some serious issues in society.
Same as it ever was. And no, as a late Boomer I didn't let shop class leave high school, they did that in 1976, the year I entered 9th grade. Even the oldest Boomers were only 30 in 1976
"For example : The question being propounded, What is the value of the combined services to man of Mr. Gladstone and Mr. Disraeli, as compared with those of Sir Henry Bessemer? Ninety-nine out of a hundred men of sound judgment would doubtless say, " The value of the services of the two statesmen is quite unimportant, while the value of the services of Mr. Bessemer is enormous, incalculable." But how many of these ninety-nine men of sound judgment could resist the fascination of the applause accorded to the statesmen ? How many of them would have the moral courage to educate their sons for the career of Mr. Bessemer instead of for the career of Mr. Disraeli or of Mr. Gladstone?* Not many in the present state of public sentiment. It will be a great day for man, the day that ushers in the dawn of more sober views of life, the day that inaugurates the era of the mastership of things in the place of the mastership of words."
-Charles H. Ham, Mind and Hand: manual training, the chief factor in education (1886) (1900)
When I got out of high school two things were glaringly obvious. One: I was taught nothing that was useful in the real world so I went into the real world to get what I needed. Two: There was no way after the experience I received in the public school system that I was going to shell out big bucks for more shoddy "book lernin"! But I did grow up around construction workers and eventually started my own house painting business.
Stossel - Rowe 2024
Boomers: "I am proud to be the first in my family to go to college"
Zoomers: "I am proud to be the first in my family to not go to college"
Fix it by bringing back the bankruptcy option.
College costs would go down. $100K for a sociology degree would not be a thing.
Once the govt began to guarantee those student loans, of course colleges raised their prices.
I love Mike’s logic. I hope Liberal leaning John learned something from him.
Why can't I get my debt canceled on my Farrari? I should not have to struggle to make the payment. Farrari's are expensive.
My parents sent me to college for an education, not an experience. If we focused on the education and not the experience the will be fewer bogus grada with bogus degrees.
Tuition increases, yet professors are being hired from other countries for less pay, pushing out higher paid American professors, while spending millions on high paid administrators and millions more on collegiate sports teams.
College inflationary lesson. The more money available, the more prices increase. I would be in favor of a mandatory limit on interest rates. A solution could be to combine student loans with the SBA and, hate to say it, lightly regulate it.
Actually I'd publicize the idea that the more you borrow the higher the rate would be.
Put the colleges on the hook for the loans and you'd not only see prices drop overnight, but admission requirements would be far more strict and fair. Why would anyone think more government is the solution to a problem that government created?
@philshock3805 The colleges will figure out a way to make it even more profitable for them by raising costs. The SBA helps entrepreneurs get started, and I'm not hearing complaints from borrowers. Some agencies, yes there are way too few, do a good job
@@JohnRobinson2 They've already wildly raised costs. Why? Because government-secured loans (tax dollars), have allowed schools to enroll as many as possible, for as much money as possible while taking zero risk. Schools don't care if a student defaults ... they have no skin in the game. By making schools responsible for the loans, they will be far less likely to enroll anyone with a pulse for worthless degrees and be forced to keep fees at a reasonable level or else either, be on the hook for unpaid loans, or suffer a decline in enrollment. Government IS the problem, not the solution.
@@philshock3805 Or the communists would scream that the colleges were practicing red lining!
I went to college when I was 39 years old in 1990. Man, talk about highly over rated. Those professors hated me for I had been somewhere and done something. I went back to blue collar work after I graduated with a 3.65 GPA.
And if you go into a trade you have to manage your own retirement plan and healthcare insurance .
"Forgiveness" with the use the tax $$$, and not even ours, our grandchildren's tax $$$ at that, then no not a dime.
If you can get people to donate to a charity that pays your loan for you, great, have at it. See how far you get.
I got my B.S. degree in 1994. By comparison, it wasn't worth more than a high school diploma in 1980.
Our main problem is that we are getting all the power and all the money to individuals that are dumb. They may have a lot of talent and some skill but politicians always end up having the intelligence of a rock. When there is no standard that you have to meet everyone ends up dumb and politicians are the best example of that.
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Followed Rowe's advice and went to school to become an electrician. Although it should be easy to join the trade, IT IS NOT. Nobody is willing to train newcomers anymore. All jobs require previous experience, new graduates are treated like the plague. LOTS of gatekeeping in the trades. (Quebec)
Quebec is a special case. Any other province, different story
I like the overall message, but some people are greedy. Because the skills are somewhat rare, & there is little competition, they can charge whatever they want. I can't afford to get my AC fixed. The part is $30, but I have to pay someone $1,000 just to climb on the roof & pop in a new one.
Make accountability great again
Safety is always 3rd. 1st is performance. 2nd is cost.
I disagree with 2nd is cost
What if your the employee? You don't have to pay for anything at the job then
@@skylerbowerbank5847 I don't understand the question. The reason cost is above safety is that no one would do anything if it was too expensive. If you decided to drive across the country, it could be done in a completely safe way. You could build a dedicated road, just for your trip, that no one else could be on. You could line that road with rails that prevent you from going off and crashing. You could make the car with huge crumple zones in all directions to protect you. You could limit your speed so that even in the event of a direct collision with a solid wall that you wouldn't be injured.
Instead of doing all of that people determine what they can afford and add in whatever safety doesn't raise the price too much.
@@michaellowe3665 i think I see what you mean
You mean cost to yourself, I was thinking cost to the company
And believe me, employees don't care in the least what something costs the company
@@skylerbowerbank5847 it applies to companies too. If it costs too much to provide safety to the employees, they will be safe at home while their jobs get automated or the company goes under.
As a young man who started a career in commercial construction immediately after highschool, I have some thoughts. First, Mike Rowe has lost touch with reality. A little about this 'spokesperson'. He was raised in a posh home born to two teachers. He attended a college and gained liberal arts degree which he used to pursue 'snowflake' type jobs, opera singing, theater, voice overs and narration. He has NEVER EVER had a blue collar job. In fact he has stated that he was never given 'the gift' of being handy with tools...ie...stupid. And dirty jobs was a sales pitch to a cbs executive.
Mike likes to talk about snowflakes a lot but he has never mentioned the real reasons why people like me are leaving the trades. First, the pay sucks, I mean it SUCKS, sure there will be the statistical outliers who bridge the gap from tradesperson to entrepreneur. Why wasn't that mentioned John? The average wages for these trades Mike keeps mentioning are actually far far lower. Mike never speaks of the danger. Sure it's all fun and games in front of a camera, but when the trades are your only option and you have no money falling from a ladder or breaking a hand or leg could mean the end for your family. And people get killed ALL THE TIME on construction sites. Ever seen the guy hanging from the tenth floor of the collapsed hard rock hotel in New Orleans?? And if you survive into your later years it's not without pain and toil. The labor takes a toll on the body and joints and muscles wear out, it's like carpal tunnel for the entire body. Next, the work environment is awful. Think about working in the freezing rain and snow or the scorching hot sun, Mike, did you mention that? Tradespeople are not the nicest of folks, name calling, bullying, theft, threats, fights, and every other juvenile activity is commonplace and promoted on construction sites, ask me how I know! This list can go on infinitely, there are no 'higher education' programs, because degree holders are snowflakes, right Mike?? I did hear mention of bad stigmas and I agree, but when you have people ask if you need money because your work clothes are so torn up and dirty from the job it hits on another level.. bet that's never happened to you huh Mike?? What about the lack of benefits and rampant nepotism preventing advancement?? I've watched a stupid sixteen year old rich boy (owners son) fumble with heavy equipment and nearly kill experienced, senior plumbers because the kid was 'too small and young' to be digging in the trench....Mike???? My final conclusion is that Mike Rowe is completely disjointed from reality and is preaching nonsense. He has never been a tradesman, never will be a tradesperson and has done nothing but get rich off the back of the tradesperson. If you have read this far, I ask you to think for yourself, and to you John, can you have a guest who will speak to reality and the true reasons behind the decline in the trades, because snowflakes and shop class are not the real reasons, they are political talking points coming from a talking head in a baseball cap and t-shirt
That guy who took out loans to buy a truck for his business can have it erased clean in bankruptcy if things don't work out?
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Only Trump can save America.
The commercials every 2 minutes are really annoying
I agree eith him on student loan.
The whole covid reaction is fine. We bounce back. So what the issue? No one was 💯 know how covid work
Isn't everyone essential?
YES! Thank you
Dont forgive! Perhaps cap the usury interest rates and fees for new and current loans? 30% is ridiculous. Recall the 2008 housing crisis had some of these same issues
They want to forgive the loans, without even discussion of lowering interest rates, or making them interest free. I would propose interest free, as long as 5% is paid back yearly. If you don’t do that, a low rate interest would be applied.