@@balds-in-your-jaws....-mate If you watch his playlist, she’s okay and is put in a prison cell along with Tyber. He may have mentioned it in the video and I forgot.
I can’t wait for a "What if Erwin and Armin both survived?" Like, Armin gets the Colossal Titan, and Erwin gets the Armored Titan. Basically, the Scouts manage to prevent Zeke and Pieck from taking Reiner back.
@@kokichistextingstory374 I've never heard in any official source that you need the full injection to transform into a Titan. Rod proved that only a little bit is enough, even if it was a strange way.
@@infinite6576 actually you’ve seen what happened to rod when he Used the Titan serum it went wrong,a person needs to take it correctly or he or she will become a Huge titan than the colossal.
@@WallNutBreaker524 I do admit it might be a bit bad at the end part of the fight but no I think the ending is ok. Since most of the reasons I see people say why it’s bad is reasons that could be easily explained if they used their brain for like once
Only thing i notice that isnt touched on is if Eren wasnt the last holder of the attack titan, then he would see the memories of the future holders, including the resistance members that had it and the eventual outcome of his rumbling plans. Would he be ok with this? I wonder how it would have affected his actions.
Good question! I think that: 1) When Eren died he had to choose between two bad options. If he gave his power to the military, then it would contradict the messages of peace/freedom that he’d been preaching. Allowing the government to have all 9 titans would restrict freedom of the population (eg. people would become too afraid to protest or question the all-powerful govt etc) and it’d probably be seen as an insult by eldians from across the sea 2) I think he’d see vague future memories of the resistance (sort of like how Krueger saw vague future memories of Armin & Mikasa). It wouldn’t be anything concrete. He definetly wouldn’t know about Henry Tybur’s plans 150 years later So overall my thought is that he picked an option that was risky but one that aligned more with his values. I think he’d believe that peace would be more achievable down the road this way. Ps. Also the function of the attack titan is to “resist” power and that might’ve played into his mindset a bit
@@TurtleQuirk wait, so if the royal family is completely wiped off, how does it affect ymir's connection to the eldians? Is it a free for all between everyone? What are even the goals of the tyburs? if it was only to regain control of the titans i feel they'd "cause an accident" for mia as the warhammer to keep it undercover in the family. Do they mean to take ALL of them? Unless they just want to watch the world burn it wouldn't truelly help with power/wealth and they could easily manipulate their way to cozy positions of power and reputation just like og tyburs. Sorry for nitpicking😅 this was a good story all the way through P.s gotta love how Erwin's the "die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" and the trade off for long lasting peace (kinda) is the lives and happiness of loved characters, cant have it all after all. Overall great story. Also mia is obviously gabi's decendant but i wonder if she's related to falco too
@@arielkandlithanks for the kind words! To answer some of these, yes Mia is the descendant of Gabi and Falco. I’ve not seen anyone notice this yet but her name (Mia) is the alias that Falco gave to Gabi when they first met Sasha’s family The Tybur’s goal is for their bloodline to have full control over this civilisation, I guess a real life comparison would be something like 🇸🇦. They don’t want the world to burn they just want to be the absolute power About the royal family… I’m not sure when/if I will continue this storyline but there is an idea there. They’re not *all* over just yet, Henry made sure of that
@@TurtleQuirk bro, why didn't we see the modern day eren, Mikasa and Armin lookalikes that were shown in the 3-4 pages manga of AOT next gen manga. It would be cool if you include them and show how eventually the power of Attack Titan again falls to a person who looks like Eren and has a dream of Titans coming back. Plz bro Plz do it. It would be amazing
OMG this is Isayama level's writing..............dude you gotta make your own manga at this point............this is too good, almost at original AOT's level !!!
I've always had a what if idea of "What if Paradis chose the 50 year plan" instead, and that we saw the future generations of the island, this basically scratched that itch, cold work bro!
it kind of feels like a continuation of the What IF Erwin Survived series which I really loved. I'm personally very fond of what if scenarios and I especially love the ones you make about AoT. Keep up the good content!
@@balds-in-your-jaws....-mateyea but this vid feels like it was too much of just reused audio and imiges for padding I would have preferred if half of the vid was the rewrite and the other being the continuation
He is literally the Jesus of AoT bro, he basically sacrificed himself to get rid of the titans once and for all, just like how Jesus died to relieve the world of it’s sins
I've got to say you've really stepped up the editing style since your first what If video. That along with the developed story line and added details makes this video 🔥. I'm really excited for what the future of this channel entails and I still need to finish watching this video
This is an incredible feat of storytelling. Every aspect of this is so believable. It ends off like the first Incredibles and second Amazing Spider Man movies: the action and the cycle continues. I love this video so so much.
Humans have always gone to war with each other. The titan powers only enhanced the devastation in the aot world until human technology finally caught up and even surpassed it.
First: Deep respect and appreciation for both the effort put into this video and the resulting story itself! Second: The custom artworks done for the video look fantastic! Third... that Jesus Jäger... god damn XDD
It's great to see this amazing project finally summed up. The one thing that doesn't work (that I've noticed) is that to stay in control of the Founder and lead the rumbling to Marley, Eren would need to stay in contact with a titan of royal blood, so he would have needed to capture Historia and bring her with him like he did with Zeke in the canon timeline, so she wouldn't be able to stay on the island and use her titan like in this scenario.
Omg, that’s really cool. Just one thing that I want to point out is that even 100 years after the rumbling, the technology of the world would be VERY behind modern day technology. With the destruction of most of the world’s population, technological progress would definitely come to a halt
I think the what if would be very hard, since eren even modified the past to reach the rumbling, i think if future eren didnt wanted the rumbling, he didnt made his father kill the founder, and his father wouldnt give him the attack titan, so the story couldnt really be even close to eren making anything
This is really good, I like how much detail you put into your video and amount of research you went into making this ''alternate timeline'' make sense.
@@VoiceOfTheHero It would actually make sense if Paradise experimented on the titans to make them much stronger or multiply them even more. Or they might discover that some ancient Eldians tried to divide Ymir's power and hid the resulting new titans in other very faraway parts of the planet.
@@c0njunctionz I like it his idea so more that i make it nu own version named AQUATIC TITAN. Is different enough with a new powers, inheritor and story. His actual inheritor is called Olga Linski.
I really love this idea. Honestly, I still hope that we could get a new season of AOT set in the future from when that little boy and his dog found the giant tree where Eren was buried.
What a great fan story. This fully encapsulates the original view of the story if a change of major events happened. I love the original story and want to say it’s “better” but they can’t even be compared one above or below the other. Great job.
*Kingdom of Eldia has tall-looking Skycraper structures* Kingdom of Erusea: "Hey! I've seen this one. It's a classic. Looks like the Lighthouse." Kingdom of Eldia: "What do you mean you've seen it? It's brand new!"
How would the story of Attack on Titan be different if Marcel wasn’t eaten my Ymir (I’m sure this one has already be done)? Also, what if Reiner, Zeke, and Bertholdt had gone to save Annie instead of pursue the coordinate?
This is actually such a believable timeline! The fact that violence still continues and everything doesn't magically solve itself with Erwin just being there is actually realistic. I really enjoyed this video!
Its rare to see what if video that actually has like art to do with the story it makes 100 times better and more fun to watch tysm for the effort u put in
I might be missing something. But isn't direct contact with a shifter with royal blood necessary to continue the rumbling? In the show the rumbling stopped the moment Zeke died. But here Eren is continuing the rumbling even without Historia being anywhere near him.
The amount of effort, dedication, and consistency that you had to exhibit to make this is incredible!! I don’t agree with every take, but I do agree with most. And most importantly, you came up with something incredibly interesting and very plausible! This is too cool; great job!!
If we had titans at our current time, I doubt they'd be a big of a problem. If they managed to become an extremely large amount THEN it'd be a big problem but wiping them out would probably be an easier task I suppose
Honestly, after more than a 130 years of plotting I am surprised that the Tyburs just didn't send one of their daughters to one of the Royal family's men to honeypot them and try to sneak an heir into their family bloodline.
I think I found 1 plot hole in your story. In the original timeline we see that Zeke stays in contact with eren for the whole rumbling but here we see historia not being in contact with eren. I could be missing some details which you might have explained but I thought on specifying it
Why would Zeke go along with any of this? It runs contrary to all of his plans. All Zeke wants is to get access to the Coordinate through the royal titan so he can make all Eldians sterile and unable to become Titian's. Zeke HONESTLY believes Eldians are evil and born only to suffer so letting die out in a single generation is the ultimate act of mercy. None of the acts you have him doing in the first part of this video get him closer to his goal. He would be far more likely to try and sabotage their efforts to forge alliances and go on the attack to and make them desperate enough to go for his plan.
This was incredible written and a prefect what if!! Nice job. I do have two questions for two holes within it tho. One being even going back in time to motivate his father and two doesn’t the founder and a royal blood titan have to be touching constantly in order for the power to work? Besides those holes the story is perfect! Unless I missed something
There should be a suite to alternative reality, something like Shingeki no Kyonjin : The Paths with each season being a new story where Erens manipulate another part from the main history to make a new one and on and on
I know this was said in the anime already but for me I just don't understand how Armin thinks he could make peace with the people who have wanted them dead for 2000 years
Imagine Japan knowing the U.S. was to drop nuclear warhwads uring the 1900's 💭 I'm sure with that knowledge; a different scenario would have been sought out - possibly acheived. The politics in this world of AOT are very similar to our own - just with giant monsters instead of giant bombs..
@@glo2fr823 there's strategic battlefield knowledge. I'm relating a measurablely powerful force that we understand innour history with that of the "magical God-like" power of the titans witnessed by the protagonists from their perspective. If Japan knew the Collossal Titan was coming to F them up; I'm sure they would have sought other means of peace rather than be blown away. (They didn't know.)
Serious question. What if two pure titans eats half of a titan shifter? Rod reiss said all you need to do is consume the spinal fluid and you'll transform. Tbh the original shifter shouldn't even have to die. They could just remove some of their spinal fluid like zeke does with his seemingly unlimited supply, find a way to shoot it in a pure titans mouth and make an army of titan shifters. Obviously for the sake of the plot this is ridiculous but I can't be the only one with similar theories
Starting off that the work put it into this is immense!!!! Please treat my question as a book study question not a criticism lol. I can’t see Erwin trying to convince Erin to allow the mainland Eldians to survive just to later not be involved in their peaceful assimilation and be involved in child experimentation. I could see the government doing the latter though.
The biggest plot hole in this story is that eren needed to hold Zelle hostage in the path world to continue the rumbling. Right now he has no Titan of royal blood with him in the path, so he shouldn’t be able to use the rumbling like this .
This is video is absolutely amazing bro props to you i know this video probably took mad long to make this needs to be an actual anime alternate timeline spinoff
36:06 Willy is a rich noble, and is smart enough to realize this attack could backfire, and a Rumbling could happen....My point being, i think hed be one of the few to have a bunker built deep underground where the Rumbling couldn't realistically reach them easily.
Makes sense - although keep in mind how catastrophically his plan failed to begin with. Smart Nobles? Sure. But prepared for someone who can see the future...?
@@kourvusFair. But it would come down to Eren caring enough to stop his Rumbling, or rather divert attention away from it, to specifically dig them up. I don't know if he'd go through that kind of effort to find and murder Willy's family...Gotta remember by the end even Eren is confusing himself with his own motives.
This would work out, except for one glaring problem. The first titan transformation is always unpredictable. We see this with both Eren and Falco. They both attack their allies, and Falco has to be forcibly ripped out while Eren takes himself out of commission. There'd be nobody to control Historia once she ate whoever the Jaw Titan was. And, like with Hitch, she'd go wild as the Female Titan. Same when the Jaw Titan would first transform. And Floch.
Got the impression that they were training to get used to their Titan forms off screen, especially based on the “Erwin getting the Colossal Titan” series.
4:41 Alliances with the middle east would be relatively impossible, as we see in the episode with Falco in the trench, the person from the middle east that falco is trying to save tells him to "Get off, he might curse him" or something along those lines, so I doubt they'd tolerate the eldian empire.
The rumbling wouldn’t have worked if historia wasn’t in constant physical contact with Eren. Which is why when Zeke was killed by Levi in the finale, the rumbling stopped. Further proof is that Eren temporarily had the founders powers when get touched Dina Fritz’ titan, but it didn’t last
Dang you put a lot of great thought into this. This might be the best au I’ve ever heard. I prefer the ending they went with, but this definitely on the level of the original show and seems to have less plot holes.
48:05 i think what this implies is that the Tyburs used they're knowledge of the outside world to produce technology's the island didn't have and sold them and got really rich from it but it's really unclear
This video was awesome! 13/10 (13 for the curse of Ymir lol, but seriously, this was great!) Just a few things that I think would have happened differently in this timeline. 1. I think Sasha and Connie would have gone along with the rest of the group to stop Eren and the Rumbling. I know you mentioned that Connie would be extremely appreciative of Eren returning his mom to her human form, but considering Sasha never had any relatives turn into titans, nor did she lose any of her relatives, she likely would have had a more level head and wanted to stop Eren as well. She probably would have convinced Connie to go with the group, especially since if their friends, Jean, Armin, and Hange, were still alive, they likely would have wanted to stop the Rumbling as well, just as they did in the original timeline. This would have convinced Connie, and considering Connie and Sasha were inseparable friends, that would have been another one of the main reasons Connie would have gone with them. So I can imagine Sasha and Connie would have told their families that they were still soldiers of the survey corps and had to carry on the wishes of their fallen comrades. 2. So Floch eats Reiner and inherits his Armored Titan. Let's keep this alternate timeline interesting. Since the armored titan can transfer its body's consciousness throughout the entire Titan, how about if, with a little training, it could temporarily transfer its consciousness through any titan shifter it makes contact with. If the armored titan has an injury, but can connect its exposed muscles and nerves with that of other titan shifters, their consciousness can temporarily fuse with the other titan shifter and the armored titan can see what the other shifter sees. However, there's a catch. To see the shifter's human body whereabouts, the Armored titan must also be in its human form. I hope that doesn't sound too confusing. 3. This one is kind of a closed plot hole, but in the original timeline, Eren needed a Titan of Royal Blood to continue the Rumbling. But I think this is where the exciting plot hole from the original timeline can be filled. Eren would only need a Titan of Royal Blood just to access the paths and Ymir, and after he does that, he wouldn't need a Royal Blood Titan anymore. So yeah I wouldn't change a thing for this one. 4. Eren's bipedal Founding Titan would have likely still been 600 meters tall like his millipede-like form since he was the only Founding Titan holder to tap into Ymir's power. If you search up images and videos of what Eren's Founder would have looked like if Gabi missed her shot on him, it's pretty much like a super-sized, muscly, bony version of his attack titan. His spine (which is where that worm thing is in) is still protruding from his body. I think in that regard, he'd also still have the ability to spawn the ancient Titans (which correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that has more to do with a combination of his Founding Titan and his Warhammer hardening abilities than his Founder abilities alone). So how this would have played out differently, because Eren's Founding Titan is so big, Erwin's Colossal Titan would be the only thing that could destroy Eren's founding Titan so the group can stop the Rumbling and drag Eren out of there. But considering the explosion is so big, they'd probably need to check to see if Eren's body is in a place where he might be killed by the blast and if so, to what extent should Erwin control his explosion. Although if Eren gets killed regardless, Erwin will have to use the explosion anyway. This worried the group, especially Mikasa. Erwin is usually not above sacrificing his comrades, but in quite a few cases, he does know when to take caution, and I feel like this would be one of those times, I could be wrong though. Erwin would also order Floch to go down there with him so he can use his consciousness-transferring abilities to see where Eren is and whether or not he's in the best place for Erwin to transform. Erwin would then hold Floch's hand so he can see through Floch's memories of where Eren is too. Alright, plan is planned out, now comes the execution. Keep in mind, Floch is only playing along, but he wouldn't give up his true motives that easily, especially after he was ordered to go along with the plan. So Erwin and Floch would fall from Historia and land on Eren in order to find out where Eren's human body is located and if he would be safe from the explosion. They would find out that Eren's human form can be spared, only if Erwin does a controlled transformation. Just as he's about to bite/cut his hand to transform, the Okapi titan extends its tongue to capture Erwin, like it did to Armin in the original timeline. Since everyone knows that Erwin is their trump card to stop Eren, they would all try to fly down on top of Eren's spine to get Erwin back. But as they try to move in, the the rest of the ancient Titans would start spawning in. Even without Pieck being there to confirm, I feel like Floch would know that these were ancient titan shifters considering he's a titan shifter himself. So Floch in his Armored titan, and Mikasa, Levi, Sasha and Connie with their ODM gear fight against the ancient titans. Histoira stays behind, as her fire breath on the Wall titans has already exhausted her. So she stays back, coasting along the wind. But of course, the group realizes they're outnumbered and it starts to not look good for them. As that's going on, Erwin would see himself dead on the ground, but he wouldn't be emotional like Armin; he'd be more initially confused about where he is until he realizes he's back in the Paths. There, he could see all the deceased titan-shifters that he's either known personally or remembers from the memories of his Colossal Titan predecessor, Bertolt. This would also include Ymir, Louise, Hitch, Grisha, Kruger, even the Marleyan ones like Reiner, Bertolt, Annie, Porco, Marcel, Lara Tyber, and Zeke. He'd tell them that he realizes why they betrayed Paradis and that everyone had to be a monster to survive. But then he uses his top-notch speaking prowess to convince all the Titan shifters he knew to come together and help defeat all the other ancient Titans. Back outside, just as the group are about to be overwhelmed, the ancient titans that they knew aid them in killing all the others. Because of the Okapi Titan's speed and agility, Hitch's female titan missteps her kick on the Okapi, and instead of kicking down on its nape to kill it, she back-kicks it into the air. However, her kick slashes the Okapi's mouth, freeing Erwin. Everyone is puzzled as to how some of the ancient titans fought back against the others, but Levi urges them not to let their confusion waste their opportunity. Floch gets out of his Titan form as Histoira, having regained some of her energy, flies back down to pick the group up so they can reach Erwin. Back on board, everyone watches as the Okapi stabs Erwin in the leg, waking him up, and tries to pull him back in. This prompts Levi to order Historia to fly quickly and catch Erwin before he's reeled back in by the Okapi. But before they could move in, that's when Floch would transform, catching everyone off guard and killing them except Historia. Sasha and Connie would have been killed instantly by Floch's transformation; likely burnt to a crisp from the massive electric shock that the transformation caused. But because Mikasa and Levi are Ackermans, they would be knocked unconscious like in the video, and would fall to their deaths. Mikasa will still have that Path's talk with Eren that they did in the playlist. Erwin and Eren watch in horror as they witness the tragic aftermath of Floch's betrayal. In a raging fury, Erwin transforms midair, vaporizing the Okapi titan. After transforming, he wastes almost no time preparing to get revenge on Floch. But that's when Eren pulls him into the "memory lane" version of the paths. Eren would tell Erwin that he already has a plan for Floch's punishment. He already talked with Floch in the paths before, enraged at him for killing his friends and told Floch himself how he'd be punished. Back to Eren and Erwin's conversation, this is when they'd formulate the idea of all the Eldians outside of Paradis turning into Colossals and migrating to Paradis. After they are sent back to reality, that's when Floch gets his punishment, which, instead of being eaten by Eren or thrown into the rumbling while in his human form, I'd go with Eren remotely transferring Floch's consciousness throughout his entire armored titan body, similar to Reiner back during the Battle for Shiganshina. Then, Erwin picks up Floch, throws him onto Eren's spine and leaves him to be killed by the ancient Titan allies, all while Floch is still in his Armored Titan form. Since his consciousness would be throughout the entire titan instead of his body, I can imagine Floch would be killed similarly to Dina Fritz, which would be a brutal yet deserving way for him to go out. The rest of the story would go pretty much just like in the video. Overall, amazing video. I always like your AOT alternate timelines, and I hope you continue with this one too! Also, forgive me for constantly editing this; so many ideas keep popping in my head about an alternate to the alternate timeline, lmao
That was really really good!!!. They should turn that into a manga and an anime series. Like you said AOT The next generation. I think that somehow the new titan shifters should have powers equalling modern militaries. Such as psychic powers over army's and military leaders.
I think it will take at least 500 years for Eldia to reach the modern era since most humanity disappeared. There is no need for innovation at all if they are the only existing civilization.
AOT is one of those shows I wish I could watch again for the first time. This is a fantastic effort on your part. Definitely filing the absence of the original for me.
Basically, if erwin survived, things would have been a lot more chaotic, and instead of Mikasa and Armin surviving, it's now the opposite, with Eren surviving and alot more of the main cast would be dead....i dont know which side to believe that is better for the future
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What is your favorite what if AOT and do you take what if request?
Dude make (Attack on Titan - The Next Generation second story) like continue this theory please.
what happened to pieck
@@balds-in-your-jaws....-mate If you watch his playlist, she’s okay and is put in a prison cell along with Tyber. He may have mentioned it in the video and I forgot.
Will the part two of the armin armored titan come out soon?
I can’t wait for a "What if Erwin and Armin both survived?" Like, Armin gets the Colossal Titan, and Erwin gets the Armored Titan. Basically, the Scouts manage to prevent Zeke and Pieck from taking Reiner back.
But they would need two titan Injections,so Kenny needs to steal two from rod back in season 3
Yes
@@kokichistextingstory374 I've never heard in any official source that you need the full injection to transform into a Titan. Rod proved that only a little bit is enough, even if it was a strange way.
@@infinite6576 actually you’ve seen what happened to rod when he Used the Titan serum it went wrong,a person needs to take it correctly or he or she will become a Huge titan than the colossal.
@@kokichistextingstory374 What about all the Titans that drink Zeke's spinal fluid through the wine? They were all normal size.
Aot never getting a happy endings is a canon event. Even in fanfics
Oh you should see the endings in cyberpunk 2077! 😂
Even tho we got an ending we want it's actually the most depressing!
51:33 That image of Eren dressed as Jesus caught me completely off guard LMAO
Homestuck pfp
@@radRadiolarian Homestuck? In this economy? It’s more likely than you think.
@Korok_Joe “Eren rumbled for your sins!”
IKR!!! 😂😂😂
Jaegus Christ
Bro didn’t just cook, he cooked a 7 star Michelin meal that would make Gordon Ramsay feel like god made the food himself
We'll never go hungry again
To be fair, anything is better than the canonical ending we got. 😂
@@WallNutBreaker524 I do admit it might be a bit bad at the end part of the fight but no I think the ending is ok. Since most of the reasons I see people say why it’s bad is reasons that could be easily explained if they used their brain for like once
Imagine your just some random baby just born and not even 6 months old just gets kidnaps for having a titan power that's kinda annoying
Gotta be mad annoying
Must be pretty annoying
Ought to be hella annoying
Would be lowkey annoying
Should definitely be annoying
Wow this next generations idea is pretty cool. I hope it continues
I second this notion.
In the end of the series we see that civilization collapsed so this can be an hypothetic way of how this all led to that
Yeah
It will continue, part 2 in the works currently :)
@@TurtleQuirk is this part 2 a whole separate timeline or continuing from this one?
We need this to be an official alternate story line. This is amazing!
Hange just can’t catch a break
It's okay hange is the queen where I come from. Even in death
Guess in the alternate universe she still gets cooked😭
In the end she gets burned
@@AIter.yeah literally
Even in an alternate timeline, Hange still gets roasted...
Only thing i notice that isnt touched on is if Eren wasnt the last holder of the attack titan, then he would see the memories of the future holders, including the resistance members that had it and the eventual outcome of his rumbling plans. Would he be ok with this? I wonder how it would have affected his actions.
Good question! I think that:
1) When Eren died he had to choose between two bad options. If he gave his power to the military, then it would contradict the messages of peace/freedom that he’d been preaching. Allowing the government to have all 9 titans would restrict freedom of the population (eg. people would become too afraid to protest or question the all-powerful govt etc) and it’d probably be seen as an insult by eldians from across the sea
2) I think he’d see vague future memories of the resistance (sort of like how Krueger saw vague future memories of Armin & Mikasa). It wouldn’t be anything concrete. He definetly wouldn’t know about Henry Tybur’s plans 150 years later
So overall my thought is that he picked an option that was risky but one that aligned more with his values. I think he’d believe that peace would be more achievable down the road this way.
Ps. Also the function of the attack titan is to “resist” power and that might’ve played into his mindset a bit
@@TurtleQuirk wait, so if the royal family is completely wiped off, how does it affect ymir's connection to the eldians? Is it a free for all between everyone? What are even the goals of the tyburs? if it was only to regain control of the titans i feel they'd "cause an accident" for mia as the warhammer to keep it undercover in the family. Do they mean to take ALL of them? Unless they just want to watch the world burn it wouldn't truelly help with power/wealth and they could easily manipulate their way to cozy positions of power and reputation just like og tyburs.
Sorry for nitpicking😅 this was a good story all the way through
P.s gotta love how Erwin's the "die a hero or live long enough to become the villain" and the trade off for long lasting peace (kinda) is the lives and happiness of loved characters, cant have it all after all. Overall great story.
Also mia is obviously gabi's decendant but i wonder if she's related to falco too
@@arielkandlithanks for the kind words! To answer some of these, yes Mia is the descendant of Gabi and Falco. I’ve not seen anyone notice this yet but her name (Mia) is the alias that Falco gave to Gabi when they first met Sasha’s family
The Tybur’s goal is for their bloodline to have full control over this civilisation, I guess a real life comparison would be something like 🇸🇦. They don’t want the world to burn they just want to be the absolute power
About the royal family… I’m not sure when/if I will continue this storyline but there is an idea there. They’re not *all* over just yet, Henry made sure of that
@@TurtleQuirk bro, why didn't we see the modern day eren, Mikasa and Armin lookalikes that were shown in the 3-4 pages manga of AOT next gen manga. It would be cool if you include them and show how eventually the power of Attack Titan again falls to a person who looks like Eren and has a dream of Titans coming back. Plz bro Plz do it. It would be amazing
I love how Historia would get the Jaw Titan, connecting her to her best friend Ymir :D
Best friend? 😭
best friend goes crazy 😭
And they were roommates 😃
Was that intentional?
OMG this is Isayama level's writing..............dude you gotta make your own manga at this point............this is too good, almost at original AOT's level !!!
Petition💭
I liked the titan 911
This is now my favorite AOT what if video on UA-cam.
I've always had a what if idea of "What if Paradis chose the 50 year plan" instead, and that we saw the future generations of the island, this basically scratched that itch, cold work bro!
that scene of zeke and erwin shifted goes so hard at 17:08
it kind of feels like a continuation of the What IF Erwin Survived series which I really loved. I'm personally very fond of what if scenarios and I especially love the ones you make about AoT. Keep up the good content!
it is an continuation with very little changes
@@balds-in-your-jaws....-mateyea but this vid feels like it was too much of just reused audio and imiges for padding I would have preferred if half of the vid was the rewrite and the other being the continuation
@@dudesayshi2191 low key
Yeah I was very confused at to why the story was going exactly how the other what if was going to
Love how Eren turns into Jesus towards the end.
Bro's the devil but with a savior mindset 😂😂
just like real ending scatter sins thank you being murderer for our sake ...
Yeagerists are the nazis
He is literally the Jesus of AoT bro, he basically sacrificed himself to get rid of the titans once and for all, just like how Jesus died to relieve the world of it’s sins
Yeah😂@@ThePawsketeer
I've got to say you've really stepped up the editing style since your first what If video. That along with the developed story line and added details makes this video 🔥. I'm really excited for what the future of this channel entails and I still need to finish watching this video
Thanks for sharing positive energy
This is an incredible feat of storytelling. Every aspect of this is so believable. It ends off like the first Incredibles and second Amazing Spider Man movies: the action and the cycle continues. I love this video so so much.
0:06 bruh Griffith titan💀☠
Holy shit I see it
So basically this cycle of violence continues even with the titans
The titans are the metaphor of Ymir's struggle. They were never the end to to the amalgamation of human warring.
Human...
In a nutshell
Humans have always gone to war with each other. The titan powers only enhanced the devastation in the aot world until human technology finally caught up and even surpassed it.
First: Deep respect and appreciation for both the effort put into this video and the resulting story itself!
Second: The custom artworks done for the video look fantastic!
Third... that Jesus Jäger... god damn XDD
i still cant believe i watched this 1hr long video in one go and still craving for more
It's great to see this amazing project finally summed up. The one thing that doesn't work (that I've noticed) is that to stay in control of the Founder and lead the rumbling to Marley, Eren would need to stay in contact with a titan of royal blood, so he would have needed to capture Historia and bring her with him like he did with Zeke in the canon timeline, so she wouldn't be able to stay on the island and use her titan like in this scenario.
He probably changed that up because to be honest it doesn’t make sense that Eren would lose control if Ymir is the one lending her power to Eren
Damn, this was just as engaging as the main story. The cycle continues.
Omg, that’s really cool. Just one thing that I want to point out is that even 100 years after the rumbling, the technology of the world would be VERY behind modern day technology. With the destruction of most of the world’s population, technological progress would definitely come to a halt
I think the what if would be very hard, since eren even modified the past to reach the rumbling, i think if future eren didnt wanted the rumbling, he didnt made his father kill the founder, and his father wouldnt give him the attack titan, so the story couldnt really be even close to eren making anything
I can’t wait for this to be continued. Most definitely improved on the original story of if Erwin survived, and set up some very interesting stories.
This Alternate timeline story made feel satisfied, thank you very much to upload this Channel 😀
This is really good, I like how much detail you put into your video and amount of research you went into making this ''alternate timeline'' make sense.
You can make a part where they discover new titan shifters. Like Mist Titan, Hybrid Titan, Savage Titan etc
That doesnt make any logical sense
@@VoiceOfTheHero It would actually make sense if Paradise experimented on the titans to make them much stronger or multiply them even more. Or they might discover that some ancient Eldians tried to divide Ymir's power and hid the resulting new titans in other very faraway parts of the planet.
or the SEA titan from one of this guys other videos.
@@c0njunctionz I like it his idea so more that i make it nu own version named AQUATIC TITAN. Is different enough with a new powers, inheritor and story. His actual inheritor is called Olga Linski.
@@peterpetrelli2529nice!
I really love this idea. Honestly, I still hope that we could get a new season of AOT set in the future from when that little boy and his dog found the giant tree where Eren was buried.
Just seeing Turtle Quirk again, with rewatching the entire series, this feels a lot more interesting with context
Thx bro really needed this 💯
Wouldn’t it be fun to see this animated 😊
YES FINALLY THE MAN HIMSELF HAS MADE THE SERIES
What a great fan story. This fully encapsulates the original view of the story if a change of major events happened. I love the original story and want to say it’s “better” but they can’t even be compared one above or below the other. Great job.
I love both. If AOT was to have a sequel, it likely would take place in an alternate reality since the idea of them is possible.
Honestly, this solution Erwin came up with is kinda goated. The least bad timeline.
*Kingdom of Eldia has tall-looking Skycraper structures*
Kingdom of Erusea: "Hey! I've seen this one. It's a classic. Looks like the Lighthouse."
Kingdom of Eldia: "What do you mean you've seen it? It's brand new!"
whoever did the illistration for erwin @5:56 deserves major props :)
How would the story of Attack on Titan be different if Marcel wasn’t eaten my Ymir (I’m sure this one has already be done)? Also, what if Reiner, Zeke, and Bertholdt had gone to save Annie instead of pursue the coordinate?
There is a whole series by another channel called the nenhunter that dives into that it pretty good
@@fireballfrank9833 thanks for the recommendation man. Really enjoy seeing different hypothetical situations.
This is actually such a believable timeline! The fact that violence still continues and everything doesn't magically solve itself with Erwin just being there is actually realistic. I really enjoyed this video!
Its rare to see what if video that actually has like art to do with the story it makes 100 times better and more fun to watch tysm for the effort u put in
This is the video of the year.
Great work man. So enjoyable!
I have been waiting for ages I was feeling down but you made my day
Sorry for the wait! But I’m glad to hear that :)
Jesus christ this was epic from start to finish. You cooked tremendously 🔥
Yoooo that’s so cool I just watched the whole thing
I might be missing something. But isn't direct contact with a shifter with royal blood necessary to continue the rumbling? In the show the rumbling stopped the moment Zeke died. But here Eren is continuing the rumbling even without Historia being anywhere near him.
I'm only 10 minutes in and I've stopped counting the nonsense already.
thank you so much for the video
The amount of effort, dedication, and consistency that you had to exhibit to make this is incredible!! I don’t agree with every take, but I do agree with most. And most importantly, you came up with something incredibly interesting and very plausible! This is too cool; great job!!
If we had titans at our current time, I doubt they'd be a big of a problem. If they managed to become an extremely large amount THEN it'd be a big problem but wiping them out would probably be an easier task I suppose
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Go for it!
Honestly, after more than a 130 years of plotting I am surprised that the Tyburs just didn't send one of their daughters to one of the Royal family's men to honeypot them and try to sneak an heir into their family bloodline.
Bro thanks for this alternate ending It's really brilliant...Keep up your quality content 👍
1:02:55 ah yes, the royal family
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I think I found 1 plot hole in your story. In the original timeline we see that Zeke stays in contact with eren for the whole rumbling but here we see historia not being in contact with eren. I could be missing some details which you might have explained but I thought on specifying it
Why would Zeke go along with any of this? It runs contrary to all of his plans. All Zeke wants is to get access to the Coordinate through the royal titan so he can make all Eldians sterile and unable to become Titian's. Zeke HONESTLY believes Eldians are evil and born only to suffer so letting die out in a single generation is the ultimate act of mercy. None of the acts you have him doing in the first part of this video get him closer to his goal. He would be far more likely to try and sabotage their efforts to forge alliances and go on the attack to and make them desperate enough to go for his plan.
This is very good, please continue the story
Not even 15 secs in & I can alr tell this is gas
Why is this so much better?
Eren casually becomes jesus
This was incredible written and a prefect what if!! Nice job. I do have two questions for two holes within it tho. One being even going back in time to motivate his father and two doesn’t the founder and a royal blood titan have to be touching constantly in order for the power to work? Besides those holes the story is perfect! Unless I missed something
You did great my dude I had to watch it twice
42:47 WHY THAT POSITION
its crazy cause miksasa's ova is about how her presence itself causes eren to die in some way or another
Thank u for making another what if video, which I really enjoyed 😊
There should be a suite to alternative reality, something like Shingeki no Kyonjin : The Paths with each season being a new story where Erens manipulate another part from the main history to make a new one and on and on
That's actually somethibg I would love to watch!
Eren on his Computer and Desk with Coding Skills
Omg the DETAIL of this video. Hard work was put into this, awesome content 🔥
Eren just dressed as jesus 51:33 is to good i wonder what the bible will be named
We need part 2 man
good job!
I know this was said in the anime already but for me I just don't understand how Armin thinks he could make peace with the people who have wanted them dead for 2000 years
Imagine Japan knowing the U.S. was to drop nuclear warhwads uring the 1900's 💭
I'm sure with that knowledge; a different scenario would have been sought out - possibly acheived.
The politics in this world of AOT are very similar to our own - just with giant monsters instead of giant bombs..
@@kourvuswhat? There’s no comparison between Japan and attack on titan lol
@@glo2fr823 there's strategic battlefield knowledge. I'm relating a measurablely powerful force that we understand innour history with that of the "magical God-like" power of the titans witnessed by the protagonists from their perspective.
If Japan knew the Collossal Titan was coming to F them up; I'm sure they would have sought other means of peace rather than be blown away.
(They didn't know.)
Serious question. What if two pure titans eats half of a titan shifter? Rod reiss said all you need to do is consume the spinal fluid and you'll transform. Tbh the original shifter shouldn't even have to die. They could just remove some of their spinal fluid like zeke does with his seemingly unlimited supply, find a way to shoot it in a pure titans mouth and make an army of titan shifters. Obviously for the sake of the plot this is ridiculous but I can't be the only one with similar theories
Starting off that the work put it into this is immense!!!! Please treat my question as a book study question not a criticism lol. I can’t see Erwin trying to convince Erin to allow the mainland Eldians to survive just to later not be involved in their peaceful assimilation and be involved in child experimentation. I could see the government doing the latter though.
The biggest plot hole in this story is that eren needed to hold Zelle hostage in the path world to continue the rumbling. Right now he has no Titan of royal blood with him in the path, so he shouldn’t be able to use the rumbling like this .
I KNEW YOU WERE COOKING SOMETHING, WE EATING GOOD TONIGHT
😂😂 love it
This is video is absolutely amazing bro props to you i know this video probably took mad long to make this needs to be an actual anime alternate timeline spinoff
36:06 Willy is a rich noble, and is smart enough to realize this attack could backfire, and a Rumbling could happen....My point being, i think hed be one of the few to have a bunker built deep underground where the Rumbling couldn't realistically reach them easily.
Makes sense - although keep in mind how catastrophically his plan failed to begin with.
Smart Nobles? Sure.
But prepared for someone who can see the future...?
@@kourvusFair. But it would come down to Eren caring enough to stop his Rumbling, or rather divert attention away from it, to specifically dig them up. I don't know if he'd go through that kind of effort to find and murder Willy's family...Gotta remember by the end even Eren is confusing himself with his own motives.
Wouldn’t floch’s Armored titan be able to fly since he was turned into titan by Zeke? Same with Louise right?
yeah but louise was the jaw titan and as you could see in the vid her titan it looks kinda like a lizard
This would work out, except for one glaring problem.
The first titan transformation is always unpredictable. We see this with both Eren and Falco. They both attack their allies, and Falco has to be forcibly ripped out while Eren takes himself out of commission. There'd be nobody to control Historia once she ate whoever the Jaw Titan was. And, like with Hitch, she'd go wild as the Female Titan.
Same when the Jaw Titan would first transform. And Floch.
Got the impression that they were training to get used to their Titan forms off screen, especially based on the “Erwin getting the Colossal Titan” series.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 The guy said it was Hitch's first time using the Female. And Historia ate whoever the Jaw Titan was on the spot.
@@KungOV I’m pretty sure he said it was her first time using it in a real fight. Implying that she was training a bit off screen.
21:12 titan defence squad is Incredible, Commander erwin is the best Leader in AOT Universe
Wow I didnt know that you drafted the next gen story line. Great job bro! I look forward to the next phase!
Please a continuation!
4:41 Alliances with the middle east would be relatively impossible, as we see in the episode with Falco in the trench, the person from the middle east that falco is trying to save tells him to "Get off, he might curse him" or something along those lines, so I doubt they'd tolerate the eldian empire.
The rumbling wouldn’t have worked if historia wasn’t in constant physical contact with Eren. Which is why when Zeke was killed by Levi in the finale, the rumbling stopped.
Further proof is that Eren temporarily had the founders powers when get touched Dina Fritz’ titan, but it didn’t last
Dang you put a lot of great thought into this. This might be the best au I’ve ever heard. I prefer the ending they went with, but this definitely on the level of the original show and seems to have less plot holes.
53:04 Did I miss something or did the Tyburs just magically create money? Anything they had would have been destroyed during the rumbling
48:05 i think what this implies is that the Tyburs used they're knowledge of the outside world to produce technology's the island didn't have and sold them and got really rich from it but it's really unclear
I love how if erwin was chosen as the colossal titan then eren would have become jesus and then a whole ass rebel group attacks paradise island
This video was awesome! 13/10 (13 for the curse of Ymir lol, but seriously, this was great!) Just a few things that I think would have happened differently in this timeline.
1. I think Sasha and Connie would have gone along with the rest of the group to stop Eren and the Rumbling. I know you mentioned that Connie would be extremely appreciative of Eren returning his mom to her human form, but considering Sasha never had any relatives turn into titans, nor did she lose any of her relatives, she likely would have had a more level head and wanted to stop Eren as well. She probably would have convinced Connie to go with the group, especially since if their friends, Jean, Armin, and Hange, were still alive, they likely would have wanted to stop the Rumbling as well, just as they did in the original timeline. This would have convinced Connie, and considering Connie and Sasha were inseparable friends, that would have been another one of the main reasons Connie would have gone with them. So I can imagine Sasha and Connie would have told their families that they were still soldiers of the survey corps and had to carry on the wishes of their fallen comrades.
2. So Floch eats Reiner and inherits his Armored Titan. Let's keep this alternate timeline interesting. Since the armored titan can transfer its body's consciousness throughout the entire Titan, how about if, with a little training, it could temporarily transfer its consciousness through any titan shifter it makes contact with. If the armored titan has an injury, but can connect its exposed muscles and nerves with that of other titan shifters, their consciousness can temporarily fuse with the other titan shifter and the armored titan can see what the other shifter sees. However, there's a catch. To see the shifter's human body whereabouts, the Armored titan must also be in its human form. I hope that doesn't sound too confusing.
3. This one is kind of a closed plot hole, but in the original timeline, Eren needed a Titan of Royal Blood to continue the Rumbling. But I think this is where the exciting plot hole from the original timeline can be filled. Eren would only need a Titan of Royal Blood just to access the paths and Ymir, and after he does that, he wouldn't need a Royal Blood Titan anymore. So yeah I wouldn't change a thing for this one.
4. Eren's bipedal Founding Titan would have likely still been 600 meters tall like his millipede-like form since he was the only Founding Titan holder to tap into Ymir's power. If you search up images and videos of what Eren's Founder would have looked like if Gabi missed her shot on him, it's pretty much like a super-sized, muscly, bony version of his attack titan. His spine (which is where that worm thing is in) is still protruding from his body. I think in that regard, he'd also still have the ability to spawn the ancient Titans (which correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that has more to do with a combination of his Founding Titan and his Warhammer hardening abilities than his Founder abilities alone). So how this would have played out differently, because Eren's Founding Titan is so big, Erwin's Colossal Titan would be the only thing that could destroy Eren's founding Titan so the group can stop the Rumbling and drag Eren out of there. But considering the explosion is so big, they'd probably need to check to see if Eren's body is in a place where he might be killed by the blast and if so, to what extent should Erwin control his explosion. Although if Eren gets killed regardless, Erwin will have to use the explosion anyway. This worried the group, especially Mikasa. Erwin is usually not above sacrificing his comrades, but in quite a few cases, he does know when to take caution, and I feel like this would be one of those times, I could be wrong though. Erwin would also order Floch to go down there with him so he can use his consciousness-transferring abilities to see where Eren is and whether or not he's in the best place for Erwin to transform. Erwin would then hold Floch's hand so he can see through Floch's memories of where Eren is too. Alright, plan is planned out, now comes the execution. Keep in mind, Floch is only playing along, but he wouldn't give up his true motives that easily, especially after he was ordered to go along with the plan.
So Erwin and Floch would fall from Historia and land on Eren in order to find out where Eren's human body is located and if he would be safe from the explosion. They would find out that Eren's human form can be spared, only if Erwin does a controlled transformation. Just as he's about to bite/cut his hand to transform, the Okapi titan extends its tongue to capture Erwin, like it did to Armin in the original timeline. Since everyone knows that Erwin is their trump card to stop Eren, they would all try to fly down on top of Eren's spine to get Erwin back. But as they try to move in, the the rest of the ancient Titans would start spawning in. Even without Pieck being there to confirm, I feel like Floch would know that these were ancient titan shifters considering he's a titan shifter himself. So Floch in his Armored titan, and Mikasa, Levi, Sasha and Connie with their ODM gear fight against the ancient titans. Histoira stays behind, as her fire breath on the Wall titans has already exhausted her. So she stays back, coasting along the wind. But of course, the group realizes they're outnumbered and it starts to not look good for them. As that's going on, Erwin would see himself dead on the ground, but he wouldn't be emotional like Armin; he'd be more initially confused about where he is until he realizes he's back in the Paths. There, he could see all the deceased titan-shifters that he's either known personally or remembers from the memories of his Colossal Titan predecessor, Bertolt. This would also include Ymir, Louise, Hitch, Grisha, Kruger, even the Marleyan ones like Reiner, Bertolt, Annie, Porco, Marcel, Lara Tyber, and Zeke. He'd tell them that he realizes why they betrayed Paradis and that everyone had to be a monster to survive. But then he uses his top-notch speaking prowess to convince all the Titan shifters he knew to come together and help defeat all the other ancient Titans. Back outside, just as the group are about to be overwhelmed, the ancient titans that they knew aid them in killing all the others. Because of the Okapi Titan's speed and agility, Hitch's female titan missteps her kick on the Okapi, and instead of kicking down on its nape to kill it, she back-kicks it into the air. However, her kick slashes the Okapi's mouth, freeing Erwin. Everyone is puzzled as to how some of the ancient titans fought back against the others, but Levi urges them not to let their confusion waste their opportunity. Floch gets out of his Titan form as Histoira, having regained some of her energy, flies back down to pick the group up so they can reach Erwin. Back on board, everyone watches as the Okapi stabs Erwin in the leg, waking him up, and tries to pull him back in. This prompts Levi to order Historia to fly quickly and catch Erwin before he's reeled back in by the Okapi.
But before they could move in, that's when Floch would transform, catching everyone off guard and killing them except Historia. Sasha and Connie would have been killed instantly by Floch's transformation; likely burnt to a crisp from the massive electric shock that the transformation caused. But because Mikasa and Levi are Ackermans, they would be knocked unconscious like in the video, and would fall to their deaths. Mikasa will still have that Path's talk with Eren that they did in the playlist. Erwin and Eren watch in horror as they witness the tragic aftermath of Floch's betrayal. In a raging fury, Erwin transforms midair, vaporizing the Okapi titan. After transforming, he wastes almost no time preparing to get revenge on Floch. But that's when Eren pulls him into the "memory lane" version of the paths. Eren would tell Erwin that he already has a plan for Floch's punishment. He already talked with Floch in the paths before, enraged at him for killing his friends and told Floch himself how he'd be punished. Back to Eren and Erwin's conversation, this is when they'd formulate the idea of all the Eldians outside of Paradis turning into Colossals and migrating to Paradis. After they are sent back to reality, that's when Floch gets his punishment, which, instead of being eaten by Eren or thrown into the rumbling while in his human form, I'd go with Eren remotely transferring Floch's consciousness throughout his entire armored titan body, similar to Reiner back during the Battle for Shiganshina. Then, Erwin picks up Floch, throws him onto Eren's spine and leaves him to be killed by the ancient Titan allies, all while Floch is still in his Armored Titan form. Since his consciousness would be throughout the entire titan instead of his body, I can imagine Floch would be killed similarly to Dina Fritz, which would be a brutal yet deserving way for him to go out. The rest of the story would go pretty much just like in the video.
Overall, amazing video. I always like your AOT alternate timelines, and I hope you continue with this one too! Also, forgive me for constantly editing this; so many ideas keep popping in my head about an alternate to the alternate timeline, lmao
That was really really good!!!. They should turn that into a manga and an anime series. Like you said AOT The next generation. I think that somehow the new titan shifters should have powers equalling modern militaries. Such as psychic powers over army's and military leaders.
hoping the what if Armin got the armoured titan part 2 video comes out at some point
Everybody gangsta until a dragon jaw titan is coming🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣 38:31
Really enjoyed this! Great work
I think it will take at least 500 years for Eldia to reach the modern era since most humanity disappeared. There is no need for innovation at all if they are the only existing civilization.
Holy shit. This is literally amazing
The whole thing failed because they chose to save the twink instead of the CHAD?
No. Either way success would have been acheived. Did you watch the show..?
Titan power was meant to be over powered. Even catastrophic.
AOT is one of those shows I wish I could watch again for the first time.
This is a fantastic effort on your part.
Definitely filing the absence of the original for me.
Basically, if erwin survived, things would have been a lot more chaotic, and instead of Mikasa and Armin surviving, it's now the opposite, with Eren surviving and alot more of the main cast would be dead....i dont know which side to believe that is better for the future
The ending we deserved
this was actually so interesting id love to see this as a movie !
Amazing story! I been working on one after the fall of the island.