What this story leaves out is : 1) The primary reason these churches are leaving really isn’t about homosexuality but about their just being tired of years of having to operate in a toxic , dysfunctional authoritarian narcissistic denomination . The “ homosexuality issue” is just the issue that brought it all inevitably to the fore 2) for every church that found the exorbitant amount of money they had to pay to leave and the will and bravery to do it there definitely is 1-2 other churches who either wish they could leave now or will wish they could leave soon. Facts.
1. Let them disaffiliate, they have a right to. And a right to go and serve a Holy God. 2. These are not "The Church" or churches. These are establishments of congregations. 3. Buildings are not "The Church", the Church are those People who are IN the Body of Christ. We follow the gospel, the teachings of Christ to the T. We don't give or allow one inch of ground to Satan's deceiving, lying, blasphemous trickery. We Saints wear the full armor of God. If my Sunday congregation displays a rainbow banner and provides LGBTQ-IA2S propaganda. I'd flee from there also. And I already have, in fact.
@@phillipshosie9233Amen, I'm glad you pointed out that God loves all gay people, and if you flee to a fundamentalist church which hates Jesus, I pray for you.
And your likes justified slavery based on the Bible and are have a fifty Pete cent divorce rate and eat shrimp. selective originalism with biblical quotes…rather than following the heart of Jesus.
Speaking as a gay person who lives a Christian life, I affirm to the world that being gay is not a choice. I was born with a gay personality and while I am not happy to be different from the heterosexuals in my family, there is nothing I can do to change my orientation, no matter what I do. No, I can live a moral life and still be gay, but the whole purpose of living out my sexuality is to find someone to marry. Until the Christian world recognizes that gay marriage is a natural alternative to being born gay, Jesus' message of love and charity will go undiscovered.
God expects Everyone to remain celibate before marriage. Since God does not accept homosexual unions, you must remain celibate your whole life. If you go against God's Laws, He will not be happy with you, and your name might not be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, nor will you ever see or be with Jesus, inherit the earth, or go to heaven. Is sexual pleasure on earth Really WORTH it?
The pastor loves Jesus first. Besides, the decision to disaffiliate is not made by the pastor, it is made by the congregation and, as I recall, requires a 60% majority vote.
@@brownro214 He is the one who said he loved them all. Not the congregation. He loves some of them, but turns his back on others. Please be honest here.
The wheat and the tares will be separated! The CALLED OUT, the EKKLESIA Church will stand in these last and evil days! I pray that all believers would stand firm in GODS word… God is the same today, yesterday and forever! 🙏🏾 I pray the unbeliever would adhere to the truth of Gods word and repent and turn back to Him to be born again and to be saved from the wrath of God that is to come! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I think it’s unfair to say that the split is over LGBT issues. At its core, it is an irreconcilable difference over the supremacy of the Bible. Many of these UMC pastors are denying the authority of scripture, the resurrection, and the very nature of God by calling Him “mother”. The LGBT issue is merely a symptom.
I agree. Along with Biblical authority (for which every church should operate), the intended path of the UMC also undermines the significance of repentance. And after the predicted changes at the recent General Conference, it's pretty clear that not only is repentance now a non-issue for the rainbow crowd, but it's also pretty clear that repentance for any sin outlined in the Bible is no longer regarded as important.
"True Christians" REBUKE SIN and EXPOSE IT "False Christians" PRACTICE SIN and DEFEND IT .. know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:4
Christians, like myself know we create our own reality, which is why you need to surrender to God and allow HIM to direct your life.... Politics don't matter... We are responsible for our thoughts, feelings, and outcomes/beliefs.....
Exactly . The main problem with the UMC is it’s autocratic narcissistic structure / church polity and it’s inherent centralization of too much power in too few hands . The GMC is going to keep bishops - just not give them the office for life . That will help mitigate the “ lording it over “ situation like it is in the UMC so very very little .
God Bless this man for his passion for Jesus and to God's will!
The WORD is eternal and not subject to the vagaries of modernity.
Our UMC disaffiliated from the UMC and we're now Global Methodist Church and we've been growing.
Looks like the holy spirit UMC claim to follow has failed to convict them of sin.
What this story leaves out is : 1) The primary reason these churches are leaving really isn’t about homosexuality but about their just being tired of years of having to operate in a toxic , dysfunctional authoritarian narcissistic denomination . The “ homosexuality issue” is just the issue that brought it all inevitably to the fore 2) for every church that found the exorbitant amount of money they had to pay to leave and the will and bravery to do it there definitely is 1-2 other churches who either wish they could leave now or will wish they could leave soon.
Facts.
Naturally they leave all that out; they are a CBS affiliate.
@@user-xp7ju2sd6o ALL corporate media is going to leave it out - no corporate-owned media does real investigative journalism anymore.
Can you explain? My little one starts preschool at a Methodist church.
1. Let them disaffiliate, they have a right to. And a right to go and serve a Holy God.
2. These are not "The Church" or churches. These are establishments of congregations.
3. Buildings are not "The Church", the Church are those People who are IN the Body of Christ. We follow the gospel, the teachings of Christ to the T. We don't give or allow one inch of ground to Satan's deceiving, lying, blasphemous trickery. We Saints wear the full armor of God. If my Sunday congregation displays a rainbow banner and provides LGBTQ-IA2S propaganda. I'd flee from there also. And I already have, in fact.
@@phillipshosie9233Amen, I'm glad you pointed out that God loves all gay people, and if you flee to a fundamentalist church which hates Jesus, I pray for you.
Im just here for that sweet southern "straight up" at 0:18
Watch this church regrow even bigger, because of this issue.
We moved the intercontinental Methodist church but we have to raise money to build a new vhurcj
Theres way worse in the world and no matter what church ot is thers mess ups in everyone.
GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN,DEMOCRATS MADE EVERYTHING ELSE.
That's a Fact!
And your likes justified slavery based on the Bible and are have a fifty Pete cent divorce rate and eat shrimp. selective originalism with biblical quotes…rather than following the heart of Jesus.
Speaking as a gay person who lives a Christian life, I affirm to the world that being gay is not a choice.
I was born with a gay personality and while I am not happy to be different from the heterosexuals in my family,
there is nothing I can do to change my orientation, no matter what I do.
No, I can live a moral life and still be gay, but the whole purpose of living out my sexuality is to find someone to marry.
Until the Christian world recognizes that gay marriage is a natural alternative to being born gay,
Jesus' message of love and charity will go undiscovered.
Thanks for posting this!
@@mcc7908 Paul does not say this! You are taking his writing out of context, plus he never uses the word "gay," and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Paul says do not be decieved
1 cor Ch 6 v 9- 10 plain and simple
@@mcc7908 And I say to you: Do Not Be Deceived. (And please learn to spell.)
God expects Everyone to remain celibate before marriage. Since God does not accept homosexual unions, you must remain celibate your whole life. If you go against God's Laws, He will not be happy with you, and your name might not be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, nor will you ever see or be with Jesus, inherit the earth, or go to heaven. Is sexual pleasure on earth Really WORTH it?
God not only left the church.... he upped and died
This "pastor" didn't love them ALL. Just some of them.
That is FALSE!
@@pwcorgi2000 What is false? Explain please.
The pastor loves Jesus first. Besides, the decision to disaffiliate is not made by the pastor, it is made by the congregation and, as I recall, requires a 60% majority vote.
@@brownro214 He is the one who said he loved them all. Not the congregation. He loves some of them, but turns his back on others. Please be honest here.
Yes, he has. Sometimes it's called Tough Love, when you don't agree.
Good for this pastor
Live by the teachings of the Bible, not how you want it to be to suit your own lifestyle.
You are 💯
@@judith5949exactly. Learn to love gay people like Jesus did.
@@kbanghartJesus loves all people, but once you put your faith and trust in Jesus and love him you will want to sin no more. Being gay is a sin.
@@kbanghart They already did, what you want is affirmation and pandering.
@@KandiKlover already did what?
Brothers, we must leave the UMC, I am now in the GMC. Praise our Lord Jesus!
God bless our gay brothers and sisters!
The wheat and the tares will be separated! The CALLED OUT, the EKKLESIA Church will stand in these last and evil days! I pray that all believers would stand firm in GODS word… God is the same today, yesterday and forever! 🙏🏾 I pray the unbeliever would adhere to the truth of Gods word and repent and turn back to Him to be born again and to be saved from the wrath of God that is to come! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
I think it’s unfair to say that the split is over LGBT issues. At its core, it is an irreconcilable difference over the supremacy of the Bible. Many of these UMC pastors are denying the authority of scripture, the resurrection, and the very nature of God by calling Him “mother”. The LGBT issue is merely a symptom.
I agree. Along with Biblical authority (for which every church should operate), the intended path of the UMC also undermines the significance of repentance. And after the predicted changes at the recent General Conference, it's pretty clear that not only is repentance now a non-issue for the rainbow crowd, but it's also pretty clear that repentance for any sin outlined in the Bible is no longer regarded as important.
Spirit of Lust in the Bible...destruction . I agree with the Pastor teaching and not compromising.
"True Christians"
REBUKE SIN and EXPOSE IT
"False Christians"
PRACTICE SIN and DEFEND IT
.. know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
James 4:4
Christians, like myself know we create our own reality, which is why you need to surrender to God and allow HIM to direct your life.... Politics don't matter... We are responsible for our thoughts, feelings, and outcomes/beliefs.....
"We are not enemies" - then act like it, bishop.
This situation is ugly.
Actually, it’s glorious.
He’s right
How is being gay progressive?
How is it not?
good for them ..live Babylon as fast as you can...
LEAVE
@@brownro214yes, have the bigots leave and let the rest of us love our gay brothers and sisters
There are millions like him.
Glory to God hallelujah thank you, Jesus 👍🏽🙌🏽☝🏽🙏🏽! Leave in Jesus' nane!!! Run! Stand on the Bible! Amen!
Complete waste of time.
Seems like the conference really is interested in the Money. Ask Trump about that one ? Wow they need permission from him ???
Good for you pastor 🙌
Shalom / Salam
MTBWY and MTBWYAF
Anti Christ adalah anti golongan yang dikias sebagai MERPATI, BIRI-BIRI dan AWAN.
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they are going to find that the global methodist is just another overlord.
Exactly .
The main problem with the UMC is it’s autocratic narcissistic structure / church polity and it’s inherent centralization of too much power in too few hands . The GMC is going to keep bishops - just not give them the office for life . That will help mitigate the “ lording it over “ situation like it is in the UMC so very very little .
Now time to read the book of Mormon
Cult book - no way will I read it
@@denisemasters1933 how about you learn for yourself, rather than listening to some money hungry preacher
A book from a cult written by a narcissistic lying sexual abusing criminal ? No thanks !