Connell's Mum Lorraine Discovers Who He Asked To The Debs | Normal People Episode 3
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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Lorraine is shocked to hear who Connell has decided to take.
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If more parents held their sons accountable for the way they treat girls/women, it would make a world of difference.
Give it a rest.
@@davidofergals6947 no. so now what?
@@iloveyouuuu135 sod off.
Agreed. And if more parents held their daughters accountable for the way they treat boys/men, it would make the world a better place too.
@@iloveyouuuu135 knob
I don't care what anyone says - Lorraine is the best character in this show
I agree, she's a unsung hero. I love how Lorraine comforts Marianne after Connell breaks Marianne's heart, and tells her son some harsh truths regarding the way he's treating his own girlfriend.
Did they give her a bigger role in the show or something
This true dialogue of Lorraine is very necessary, really!.
All young teenagers should listen this brillant speach of Connell's mother (Lorraine) because this happen every single day, in all generations: teenager stupidity, teenager fears, teenager bullshits, bullying, fals friends... Inside and outside, Connell felt all of those feelings at this moment, in the novel and in the TV serie too.
Women said this true to all young generations is one of the most beautiful moments that I saw on TV serie. Lorraine's character is georgeous. I totally in love with her sincerity, honesty, strong, powerfull, sweet and lovely character. All my RESPECT! 💞✊🏽
AND Connells roommate??
@Duygu Sensum, of course yes!... Lorianne is the first but Niall & Elaine (Connell's real friend and Niall's girlfriend) and Joanna & Evelyn too (Marianne's real friend and Joanna's girlfriend). All together celebrate the Marianne's Birthday, beside Connell & Marianne on the last episode.
This was difficult to watch. I adore Connell, but he desperately needed to hear this. As much as he cared for Marianne he treated her abhorrently in the beginning and I'm glad his mother called him out on his shit rather than make excuses for his behaviour which is what most mothers do for their sons. Lorraine really was such a good mother, even to Marianne. She was the one person who was consistently advocating for Marianne.
I think maybe why I like this scene so much is because, in so much of the story, what needs to spoken out loud, isn't. Lorraine puts it right out there. Exactly what needs to be said is said, with no doubt about the meaning, and she's right.
I know what you mean, I have watched the series but hesitated to click on this clip because I remember feeling so tense during the exchange. So clear the pain from Lorraine’s own life experiences leading her to this point, and part of it is also a reaction to finding out that as much as she tried, apparently even her own son is out there doing things that are not kind to women. Larger than gender, it’s a matter of people taking advantage of good-heartedness. It’s the first time Marianne (the girl Connell didn’t ask to the debs) has been involved like this (with her feelings, you know), and she’s too hurt to stand up for herself in quite the same way, although she does in a less mature by ending the relationship abruptly.
@Yeah Okay what do you mean? Are you implying that if he were Connell he wouldn't have treated Marianne this way? (not surprising considering how sweet he comes across in interviews haha)
Why do u adore Connell ? 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Marianne deserved better than Connell al together. He’s terrible at communication and treated her badly because he’s scared of how others perceived him and can’t say what he wants. He also lead her on a few times. He even emotionally cheated on his current gf with Marianne. Marianne really did go through hell.
Bruh that mom is speaking facts.
Yea straight facts
Yes agree
How I wish my ex’s mom had talked to him when he brought another girl to an event even though we were still together
@@Dontincludeme Ouch smh
YE FOCKED HER WHADDAYA MEAN
That was clearly a massive slap in the face to Lorraine. She doesn't see the kid she taught to handle his relationships with respect and decency. Very realistic scene for many, many parents.
Most parents don't teach their kids about things like that. They just hope thry figure it out and get shocked when their kids turn out strange.
I often thought she had it drove into connells head how to treat a woman,
Possibly because connells fathers no were to be seen
Maybe he wasnt that good to Lorraine either, thats why shes really took this badly,
How is that respect and decency? So you have to be forced to have a relationship with someone because you had sex with them?
@@ashleigh3021 no you aren't forced but Connell knows how vunerable Marianne is, yet treats her like a side piece despite telling her all the time that he loves her. How is that not problematic? Like Lorraine says, he fucks her then refuses to look her in the eye in public. That is not treating someone with respect and decency, its cowardly and Connell himself knew it.
@@ashleigh3021bi tch have you even watched the series? You think Marianna & Connel are only having sex? Like tf? They have a deeper bond and that's literally the point of the whole story. Marianne liked Connell and he knew it. He liked her too but still chose the other girl to the debs just becz he was scared what people would think if he took Marianne
Lorraine is such an underrated character. She knows Connell's true feelings about Marianne, and doesn't hesitate to call him out for his horrible treatment of her. Lorraine is a badass queen! 👑😍
Yass♥️
Lorraine should get mother of the year for this. She’s fantastic and takes no prisoners.
"vile language to be using" oh god i love him
He was doing a shitty thing but by god, I always cackle when I hear him say that
The delivery is so Irish and very real. I can identify with most of this conversation, give or take a few minor descriptive differences. But Lorraine is such a pretty typical Irish mother and Connell an Irish guy. In some ways I'm surprised it carried across the world. but it was so well put together.
Agree not the kind of thing I would watch usually but so Irish it’s so well written. Surprised it did travel and it’s very semi rural Irish town land stuff.
If you want to be universal start by painting your own town, Tostoi said.
The delivery may be Irish but the problems of growing up are universal.
What’s Irish about it.
@@catalinaa766 language/slang mainly
This encapsulates one of the most interesting parts of the show: the contrast between what feels right and the influences of the internal and external environment on those feelings, and what IS right. The same way Connell's social anxiety and loneliness made him feel (and think) that he couldn't ask Marianne to the debs, Marianne was convinced by her toxic family (external factors) that their toxicity was normal and "right" and that she was in the wrong, constantly failing to meet this ostensibly reasonable standard they set, all the time.
I love the show because it captures so well the struggle of trying to understand what is right in the world when you feel so wrong all the time on the inside.
I love this comment
@@mbrunnen04 i love this comment as well
It felt like I was reading well-written essay ✨✨
i think you're spot on there
Lorraine shut his ass down! And this is a prime example of why he's different from his friends. Just like Marianne told the Italian lady in the shop, "His mother raised him well."
Just such remarkably good dialogue, some of the most realistic I've ever seen. The "Vile language to be using." by Connell is dead-on to what a teenage lad would say to his mum in a situation like that, anything to deflect the heat. The delivery is also perfect.
It's straight out of the book.
Lorraine is the Queen... every girl needs a Lorraine in their life ! She’s such a great mom
Every boy..
Great scene. Exactly what Connell needs to hear. Guys that age are utterly clueless, myself included. I'm ashamed of my behavior at that age. I needed to hear a variation of this conversation. Go, Lorraine!
That is one of the best portrayals of a good parent that I've seen in a very long time when it comes to subjects like these. I admire how she holds him accountable without resulting to violence.
I get the feeling that Connells mum spoke the cold truth to him because she was most likely hurt in her teens in the same way. We never see or hear of his dad but we do know Lorraine said he was the mistake she made in her teens, maybe Connells dad left his mum when she was pregnant 😭😭
heehee mefunny very true! It is was very refreshing to see the mum completely call her son on the BS. I know that if I thought my son was doing that, I would call him on it too ♥️
One of the issues one gets from the book is that Connell does not know who is father is and this aggravates his sense of being lost in the world. Also in the book Lorraine reveals that she was thinking of chucking him out of her house because he behaved so badly to Marianne. Finally, in the book there is a scene just before Connell goes to rescue Marianne where Connell asks his mother whether she would have been better having an abortion rather than having him. Lorraine replies that having him is the best thing she has ever done. This puts Connell in the right frame of mind to tackle the drama that would enfold at Marianne’s house. The book is a rich source and deals with some themes not dealt with fully in the series including abortion, money, urban and country differences etc
@@richardwalters2264 wow. I think I really need to read the book then. I think this really puts into perspective where Connell's anxiety stems from (which wasn't really shown in the show, except for one scene where his friends teased him about asking Rachel to the debs and him running to the toilet).
I just wrote this under another comment lol thats the angle i veiwed this from, i think shes made it her absolute mission that connell will respect girls
@@djfhfhyeah, that's called projecting your issues as a mother on your child....
Categorically. The. Best. Show. In. Television. History,
It only went for 1 season cmon its a mini series not a tv show
@Jordan Inglis I personally believe that it does. Obviously it is just my opinion but I have watched a lot of tv shows and I have never seen any as captivating as this. Films, yes. But not a tv show, especially one centred around a 21st century love story.
@@SS-ud6nt It's more like a fragmented film. They should never do another series, it's almost perfection. The problem with TV Shows is that they get lost in ridiculous plot lines, lose direction and atmosphere. Take something like Ozark, really good, great acting but they should have stopped it earlier. It just got lost in a haze of murders and twisted plots. You start to feel like they literally lost the plot, and are just keeping alive as a money grab. Less is more in my book.
Relax
I like the show but no... just.... no
Lorraine is the ultimate Irish mam! She loves Connell and has such a great relationship with him but also gives him a bollocking when its needed!
Brilliant scene, she's a great character and so true to life as well.
She reminds me of my ex's mom. A wonderful woman who always made me feel welcomed despite her son.
Same ! So many disgusting men with wonderful mother, it’s a disgrace they deserve better.
This actress knocks it out of the park.
Gosh....if every son had a mother like that!! I think she is amazing!
One of the best scene of whole show
no
I like the scene later on when Marianne starts to stay home from school and they talk about Connell and Lorraine tells Marianne that Connell doesn't deserve her. Exactly right.
My god I love Lorraine. What a potent scene. Acting is amazing
We should more of Sarah Greene, superb actor! Fantastic in Rebellion if you have Netflix
He told Marianne he loved her the night before then goes & asks Rachel out 🤦🏽♀️ There are times i really wish Marianne had gone to the Debs with Eric
Lorraine is spitting facts, and I really love it.
This is one of the best Scenes Ever the fact the mom defends Marianne just makes me smile I love it
Jesus, this scene is making me tear up ... I can't. My heart is breaking, I cried also in the book. His mom really was the best character
Oh it was a good feeling reading this part in the book. Such an amazing Mom and this conversation was so important.
My favorite phrase in the whole show: “Who is it obvious to?” 🥺
Lorraine was a beast in this. Spitting facts that definitely needed to be said.
"Would you say hello to her?" Flash forward to final episode when Marianne's mother won't say hello to her.
Lorraine FTW!! I love that scene, they both played it so well, I loved when she hugged Marianne too, she’s got a good heart ❤️
This true dialogue of Lorraine is very necessary, really!.
All young teenagers should listen this brillant speach of Connell's mother (Lorraine) because this happen every single day, in all generations arround the world: teenager stupidity, teenager fears, teenager bullshits, bullying, fals friends...
Inside and outside, Connell's character and Marianne, both together in every single moments of their lives experiment all of those fellings at different moments, in the novel and in the TV serie too.
Women of my generation (80s, I'm 40 years old) said this true to all young generations is one of the most beautiful moments that I saw on TV serie. Lorraine is georgeous. I totally in love whit her powerfull and lovely character. RESPECT! 💞✊🏽
i love her... every mom should be like this 😍😍😍
I WANNA THANK EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO COMMENTED HOW GOOD THIS SHOW WAS... I LOVED IT. ITS SO GOOD 🥺
Keep the volume down. Lol
Mom of the year fr, everyone need’s a Lorraine in their lives
great mom, good for her. he needed to hear it.
LOVE Lorraine!!
We see who has the balls in this family 💪💗 Queen!! I always answer when she asks all her questions. “Do you talk to her in school? Or say hello even?” No, no, no, no. He does none of that 😑 She is everything!!
I love Lorraine so much; definitely my favourite character
Incredible scene, you'd go many movies many series before you'd find another like this.
They both, in very different ways have an incredible way with words.
Lorraine is the audience reaction
SI!
Lorraine is the show changer. She is an amazing mother!!
Lorraine and Niall are my fav characters on this show!
Wow this was probably my FAVOURITE show. Just finished it. Absolutely amazing show. Wow. Astounding and so insightful.
LORRAINE IS AN ICON
Lorraine is the best mom in TV history.
A brilliant piece of drama by Sarah Green and Paul Mescal.
Oh Dublin murders yessssss
Take him to task mom! Get him all the way together! 👏🏽
I knew he felt guilty the second he asked his mum he knew what her response would be it’s like he was ashamed of himself and needed that validation he was wrong but had too much pride
Lorraine from Normal People and Sister Michael from Derry Girls are absolute Irish queens! ☘️ 🇮🇪
Love Lorraine!
A good mother and a good person !
yess Lorraine is such a queen i love her
Best mom ever!
Lorraine is my favourite character 😍
I don't watch this show but this is some gold. Cool mum.
His mum is a bawsss!!! 🙌🏽
Hope more mothers of sons watch this scene bc they desperately need to learn how to parent their kids!!!
Best mother ever!
I love his mom💖
that’s something that a lot of men, specifically Irish men (with how our mams dote on them), need to hear! i wish more of them were like Lorraine
It honestly felt a bit like Connell didn't even realise how poorly he was treating Marianne up to this point. Maybe he did deep down, but you could never see it in his character. His friend group probably weren't the best point of reference for how to treat girls, maybe he thought comparatively he was doing better than them?
Either way, good for his mum. She looked out for that girl the whole way through the series, I respect her so much for it.
This is how every mother should be like, hold your children responsible like this.
I love this mum.
Finally a parent on TV
If you drew a wee Irish mammy it’d be her.
I know it’s highly likely no one in the creative process will ever read this but I just watched the series and read the book these last two days and I hope this is neither continued as a book nor renewed for a second season. I loved ever bit of it and I kept on staying awake talking to friends about both products. The story ends on a perfect note as it doesn’t present us an ending. I liked what I read and watched but I don’t think the consumer should get an ending which gives us closure.
I read your comment and yes i do not have a " creative process " but i love you all the same
That's a good mother
More mothers should be like this!
Its sooo weird seeing a show set in exactly the environment I grew up in like...the debs being a plotpoint! Like my little debs that i went to with my mates being on tv idk its great...
I have just watched the series - love you both - beautiful acting - so young but so talented - you should both be very proud of yourselves - very very talented - wishing the both of you the very very best for your futures and will definitely look out for your next movies, wherever they may take you xoxo!!!
One of the best scenes
One of my fave scenes!
Lorraine knows
I feel Lorraine is so hard on Connell because she was a Marianne in the past; tossed to the side, stood on and swept away. Its almost like shes having a go at him to vent her own anger out about what might have happened in her life. Also the show never explains about Connells father so this could be another attributing factor?
Yup. My parents held me accountable. When u have been there, u never want to see someone u love do that to another person. My friends know I am the last person u tell if u cheat on ur partner bc I refuse to be an accessory after the fact and I will not sell my soul bc u cornered me into ur dirty secret. I tell them that a good person would do the right thing.
I love Lorraine in the show and in the book!!!
Connell: “I asked Rachel to the Debs”
Lorraine: “Pull in”
Connell: “I wasn’t planning to but- oh, you meant the car”
His mother told him straight
Just have no idea why Marianne is not popular, she is beautiful, smart, rich but not snobbish, has own character.
Shes kinda snobbish in school! She just very smart in a class full of idiots. She doesn't give a shit and why should she.
I just read the book and seeing this is amazing the actors are so talented !!!
Good on you, Lorraine.
Legend😂 treat them mean keep them keen😂
Lorraine, absolute G
love her
Good mama
Lorraine forever
“What are you afraid of?”
I loved this show. ❤
Connel was garbage for this. I love how confused he acts. Nope, homeboy knew what he was doing. Trash.
should i watch this? looks as good as the novel!
The Irish response to everything - for fu*k sake :)
a queen
Lorraine is probably the only one who really cared about Marianne
It's kind of weird how shitty connell turned out in light of how high value his mom was. Like, not only did he do this but he also then continues to string Marianne along in a situationship after and basically never actually puts in the effort to pursue her to get her back (instead they just happen to run into each other over and over again - like if she hadn't ran into him again at trinity would they have just continued along their way and would she never have even received an apology?).
idg why people even like connell - he's boring and a douche. I actually thought that nerdy debate guy she dated right after him was way better - at least he wasn't mean.
Lorraine was the best character.