I prefer this over my deathadder v3 pro, g pro superlight, lamzu thorn, and g303 shroud. I'm actually returning most of them bc of this little gem. I have large hands, and it feels better than any ergo.
Same here, with 21x10 cm hands, I always used big mouses ( microsoft 3.0, deathadder, steelseries rival 300 (for me the best ergo shape) and was using a g pro wireless for 2 years! Got a ec1 cw and is so unconfortable , got pain in my palms, I will return it and im considering get this one!
I absolutely fell in love with this mouse in a way i never thought i could with a wired mouse. The biggest upside is the coating. It is leagues better than anything else i have ever felt. The weight and shape are perfect for me. I use it at 1k hz, because with a 240hz monitor you cant notice ANY improvement at 8k. I feel like 8k is way overhyped. Still even without that this is my forever mouse. It is stupid high quality.
Why not still run it 8K and get the subconscious performance upgrade. Whether you NOTICE it or not you will probably hit shots that much faster without knowing it.
@@Killjoy.Z As i said there is zero difference for me at 240hz plus 8k polling rate will use quite a bit more cpu power. A lot of games dont support 8k at all and barely function with 4k. If you have a 360hz display or higher you might see an improvement.
@@ana-zz it might be because it’s longer than the beastx mini. I think you could claw the op1 and your fingers would just be slightly further up on the clicks. Personally I think it’s worth a shot for how good this mouse is
It’s really up to you! The other skates that come in the box will provide a smoother glide because they have a larger surface area, but will be slightly slower for the same reason. Personally I thought the skates that come on the mouse are amazing, so I never changed them. In general, my favorite aftermarket skates are the xraypad Obsidian donuts (the red ones) if you ever want to replace skates on your mice with different ones. Hope this helps, and thanks for clicking on the video!
I got this mouse today. The cable is decent for a stock cable, but it's not as good as an after market paracord. It's still stiff enough to notice and I would paracord if it was my main. If you like the shape it really is a great mouse, unfortunately I don't like the shape.
i am contemplating buying the op1 8k or the sora v2. i think i would enjoy the shape and performance of the op1 more than the sora, but also want the lower weight of the sora. any insight on if the weight difference is enough to justify buying the sora over the op1 would be greatly appreciated
Definitely a worth while dilemma. I rated the OP1 at 4.5/5 and the Sora at 4.0. Both incredible mice. But I personally don’t think the weight makes a big enough difference as the op1 is still only 55ish grams without the cable. I definitely think the OP18K is a better buy. That being said, I do think the Sora is probably better for an aggressive claw grip, so if that is you, take that into consideration. TLDR: buy the OP18K
@@anders_4k tysm i use a relaxed to normal claw grip so i will go with the op1. i assumed this would be the better mouse but was really unsure without a comparison in any review ive watched. +1 sub
How do you handle macros? I know ahk/Logitech implementations are slower than razer. This mouse as I understand doesn’t have any macro software, Endgame says it’s “anti-cheat”, more like “anti-effort”🤣 Yea macro loss only real thing holding me back. I main a viper 8k rn but the wheel encoder started malfunctioning, so I am 👀
No but really good claw mice are the Lamzu Atlantis mini/og (depending on hand size) and the new ninjutso sora v2. I’m currently using the sora v2 and it’s amazing.
Fair, lots of people dont notice differences in polling rate and at the end of the day, it most likely won’t be the deciding factor whether you win or lose a gunfight. I still think having higher polling rate is better, and a good implementation of it is impressive
literally just a logitech g203 but with higher polling rate, which you really wont notice unless you've got some insane level of talent, just buy a different mouse ngl
I really hate that people title their vids with the best mouse mouse. I mean i get it because it hase great specs but shape is king and that is ehat will make a mouse "the best", which is strictly preference. Just title your video the best mouse for me
@@mohammadbaqer8305 best thing to do is get a really simple shape, maybe a superlight, maybe a 3d printed something, and just move the cursor without looking at the mouse. However you naturally grab it, that should be your grip. Then you go from there
Lived the review and will be purchasing one of these (currently using death adder v3). Great video man, glad I found your channel!
Thank you! It’s a really great mouse, very different shape from the dav3, definitely worth a shot though. I hope you love it!
yo did u end up buying it if so which do you prefer i have the dav3 rn considering this mouse
@@7Deadzone-btw what grip style do you use?
@@anders_4k Uh with the deathadderv3 a palm grip
I prefer this over my deathadder v3 pro, g pro superlight, lamzu thorn, and g303 shroud. I'm actually returning most of them bc of this little gem. I have large hands, and it feels better than any ergo.
It’s just so good. All those mice you listed are top tier and this one is just better (as long as you don’t care about wired mice).
Are you palm grip? I’m may get this coming from a model O and am hoping this isn’t too small.
@@Liar unfortunately I think it’s too small for palm, but depends on your hand size. I use fingertip and it’s great, wood also be good for claw
Have you ever tried X2H Mini?
Same here, with 21x10 cm hands, I always used big mouses ( microsoft 3.0, deathadder, steelseries rival 300 (for me the best ergo shape) and was using a g pro wireless for 2 years! Got a ec1 cw and is so unconfortable , got pain in my palms, I will return it and im considering get this one!
I absolutely fell in love with this mouse in a way i never thought i could with a wired mouse. The biggest upside is the coating. It is leagues better than anything else i have ever felt.
The weight and shape are perfect for me.
I use it at 1k hz, because with a 240hz monitor you cant notice ANY improvement at 8k. I feel like 8k is way overhyped.
Still even without that this is my forever mouse. It is stupid high quality.
@@paxpaxman4423 agreed! The coating is absolutely incredible. Best on the market hands down. Wired is underrated and doesn’t really affect me at all
Why not still run it 8K and get the subconscious performance upgrade. Whether you NOTICE it or not you will probably hit shots that much faster without knowing it.
@@Killjoy.Z As i said there is zero difference for me at 240hz plus 8k polling rate will use quite a bit more cpu power. A lot of games dont support 8k at all and barely function with 4k. If you have a 360hz display or higher you might see an improvement.
@paxpaxman4423 what if I can overclock to 280? Lol 😆
@paxpaxman4423 the clicks are 8k no matter what and I suppose that's what truly matters for this mouse in particular with their actuation tech
really good review. enjoyed the full vid. watched all of it. 😄
Thank you so much! Glad you liked it 😄
"don't take that out of context!" nice one 😏 Awesome review, absolutely love this mouse!
I think it might be my favorite mouse ever as of now!
I have very small hands, I’m currently using the beast x mini + pulsar v2 mini ( claw grip ) would this mouse be too big ?
@@ana-zz it might be because it’s longer than the beastx mini. I think you could claw the op1 and your fingers would just be slightly further up on the clicks. Personally I think it’s worth a shot for how good this mouse is
@ana-zz no I don’t think it would. It’s a little long but I think you could swing it. Sorry for the late reply
wish they made the 8k versions in dark or white frost. the og black coating is a fingerprint magnet
Yeah me too. You can buy them both and do a swap if you reeeeeally want to but they def should’ve had frosty in 8k
Sorry to ask but I thought I just ordered the white one last night , maybe it’s out of stock in your area ?
@LUNIMIS white is different to white frost. White frost is only available in the OP1 RGB
I love how greasy my black op1 looks 😂
Very nice review on a very nice mouse!
Thank you homie 🫶
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How is it after day one??? Any complains or ?? I'm planning to get one for CS2 game.... subscribed
Would the OP1 work for me? I have 20x10cm hands and pincer claw grip. I have an np01s and don’t find it too thin (for reference)
I've really wanted this mouse, too bad its sold out in my country :(
I’ve heard they aren’t good at stocking for international orders, it’s a shame everyone can’t get their hands on one!
Hi, complete beginner here, when should I be using the spare mouse skates? Should I be replacing them as soon as I get the mouse?
It’s really up to you! The other skates that come in the box will provide a smoother glide because they have a larger surface area, but will be slightly slower for the same reason. Personally I thought the skates that come on the mouse are amazing, so I never changed them. In general, my favorite aftermarket skates are the xraypad Obsidian donuts (the red ones) if you ever want to replace skates on your mice with different ones. Hope this helps, and thanks for clicking on the video!
Oh no doubt end game gear makes the best oem cable. Still rocking my xm1r with no need to change mice for years to come.
I think I’ll have this one in my rotation for a long ass tkme
I got this mouse today. The cable is decent for a stock cable, but it's not as good as an after market paracord. It's still stiff enough to notice and I would paracord if it was my main. If you like the shape it really is a great mouse, unfortunately I don't like the shape.
That’s fair, the shape is very long. I like it a lot tho. Try out the xm2 shape, you might like it more
If you want a bit wider mouse, try putting on the grips that come with it, or order aftermarket ones. They will fill out the width you want #trust
Good shout I need to buy a bunch of supergrips or geckos
you are going to love xm2 8k if you want wider op1
@@null0452 you’re very right, I haven’t picked it up yet but really need to. Gonna review a cuppa more mice and then pick it up
i am contemplating buying the op1 8k or the sora v2. i think i would enjoy the shape and performance of the op1 more than the sora, but also want the lower weight of the sora. any insight on if the weight difference is enough to justify buying the sora over the op1 would be greatly appreciated
Definitely a worth while dilemma. I rated the OP1 at 4.5/5 and the Sora at 4.0. Both incredible mice. But I personally don’t think the weight makes a big enough difference as the op1 is still only 55ish grams without the cable. I definitely think the OP18K is a better buy.
That being said, I do think the Sora is probably better for an aggressive claw grip, so if that is you, take that into consideration.
TLDR: buy the OP18K
@@anders_4k tysm i use a relaxed to normal claw grip so i will go with the op1. i assumed this would be the better mouse but was really unsure without a comparison in any review ive watched. +1 sub
@@peely.oiledup thank you sm! Any time :)
Hello!! Is that good for a relax palm grip , hand like 18 x 9.5 thansks
Yes with that hand size this should do really nicely. If you pick it up let me know how you like it!
@@anders_4k yes sure!!!
What do you think about OP1WE? Is it still worth to buy rn?
How do you handle macros? I know ahk/Logitech implementations are slower than razer. This mouse as I understand doesn’t have any macro software, Endgame says it’s “anti-cheat”, more like “anti-effort”🤣
Yea macro loss only real thing holding me back. I main a viper 8k rn but the wheel encoder started malfunctioning, so I am 👀
Ahh that makes sense! I don’t use macros but it’s got a crowd for sure. Wait for the viper v3 pro! Its coming out soon
Beat mouse I have ever owned. Never used a wired mouse before and feel no difference, wire never bothered me so far.
@@xyry4148 it really is. Paired with great skates and pad and you are golden
I just got this mouse today.
What really surprised me, was that macros arent programmable.
Except for that, great device.
Hello.
Upgrading from Razer death adder v3 v3 will do any better??
Cheers
If you already like the dav3 shape stick with that. Pretty comparable internals/performance on that mouse. Also there’s a wireless version
@@anders_4k I order it... acant resist it ;)
Hi! Do you think the huano blue pink dot switches will be good for me if i prefer lighter clicks?
Yes, they are much lighter than those that come stock on this mouse. Didn’t get slam clicks but still light
Compare with the sora v2 please and lmk what you prefer for claw/ftip!
Using the sora v2 right now, next video will be about that!
Have you tried the xm2we? Im looking for a claw mouse
No but really good claw mice are the Lamzu Atlantis mini/og (depending on hand size) and the new ninjutso sora v2. I’m currently using the sora v2 and it’s amazing.
More than being wired, I'm dissappointed in the fact that gaming mice still sell the high polling rate as something that's even worth mentioning.
Fair, lots of people dont notice differences in polling rate and at the end of the day, it most likely won’t be the deciding factor whether you win or lose a gunfight. I still think having higher polling rate is better, and a good implementation of it is impressive
@@anders_4k if you're implying that you notice the difference between 4k and 8k then sorry but that's 100% bs.
Whats the best mouse for palm grip?
Probably the Viper V3 pro or the U2 for symmetrical, and the Razer Deathadder V3 pro for ergo
There a silent usb mouse out there with all silent butoon. Inclusing back amd forward.
Palm grip friendly?
No, or you have very small hands.
Late response but nah. Not really. Too thin, but long enough
skinny and long is my preference though! 😜
Bro i read this comment the second he said it 💀
Uh huh. You like them long boys huh..
Sadly I can’t get it dosnt let me buy in Canada:(
Really? Thats so disappointing, hopefully they can do that soon!
@@anders_4k frfr
Amazon has them in stock now for canada
literally just a logitech g203 but with higher polling rate, which you really wont notice unless you've got some insane level of talent, just buy a different mouse ngl
Gold nova spotted
@@reecep4016 That mf plays osu and geometry dash lmao, put him in 1w6t for a reality check
skinny and long thats what she said
I really hate that people title their vids with the best mouse mouse. I mean i get it because it hase great specs but shape is king and that is ehat will make a mouse "the best", which is strictly preference. Just title your video the best mouse for me
Wired so nah
@@Dubulcle don’t knock it til you try it. I love it regardless, just need a bungee or good cable management
KAL??? its pronounced KA-LE. please stop.
Kah-Lee?
This is trash mate
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this or superlight/Lamzu Atlantis/ endgame xm2we ?
I’d say this mouse, but depends on grip too. How do you hold your mouse?
@@anders_4k honestly idk yet what is my grip
i use pulsar x mini and no matter how i grip it i cant decide which grip is for me
@@mohammadbaqer8305 best thing to do is get a really simple shape, maybe a superlight, maybe a 3d printed something, and just move the cursor without looking at the mouse. However you naturally grab it, that should be your grip. Then you go from there
@@anders_4k thanks
The pulsar x2 mini is it a simple shape ?
@@mohammadbaqer8305 maybe a medium so you can see if you prefer it to be smaller or larger