I remember this episode when I was five, home from school for lunch. My mother had it on the kitchen counter black and white. Scared the bejesus out of me. To this day I see a clown I think of Jingles.
Thanks. Never thought I'd see this. The Mary Hartman pigtails! Always wanted to see some of the Jingles the Clown story. I didn't know Sam Lucas was still around at this point. I wonder if Lahoma and India were already gone. I see that that's Pamela Toll in an ad near the end, which is a little surreal, as she was on the first six months or so of Somerset, as Pammy Davis. And until recently, on the reruns of The Doctors as Liz Wilson.
i believe India was gone by this time - following an attempt on her life by husband Chuck Hillman (Edward Winter) who married her to get ahold of Delaney Brands..i'm not sure when Sam and Lahoma left Somerset..i do know Sam returned to Bay City, then made a 'guest' appearance to express his condolences to Rex Cooper after Laura's suicide...and i remember Pammy Davis and Tony Cooper (Doug Chapin) leaving Somerset at the same time, making Pamela Toll's time on Somerset about a year (according to the IMDb, she was still on TD when Somerset first went on the air..funny how she never seemed to visit sister Rachel in Bay City..i was still in school, so i don't know if there were ever any scenes between the two sisters - on either show...
Danny Hill That's interesting about Rahcel and Pammy. You'd think they must have interacted, but maybe not. I wish I could see some of Toll's work. I thought she was pretty good on The Doctors, but badly underused by her last year.
Ken George Jones the concept of a spin-off is to exist as a show on its own..except for Sam Lucas' one-episode late in 1973, i think AW and Somerset were 'separated'..to have Pammy and Rachel interact too much at any time would have made the audience expect these 'crossovers' would continue..if i remember it right, it was Sam who visited Rex after Laura's suicide - not brother Robert who may have been in Bay City by that time..that, too, would have created references the audience would have expected to continue.. have you heard anyone make the comparison between Barnabas and Maggie on DS with Liz Wilson and Philip Townsend on TD when he had her trapped in his dead daughter's room?..i didn't until someone else brought it up - then i saw the physical similarities between Jonathan Frid and the actor who played Philip; but the latter was definitely a rip from DS....
Danny Hill I've heard the comparison, yes. I can see it. I definitely think they were trying for a DS homage. Re: Pammy. I think I read in a soap magazine around the mid-late '80s they were thinking of bringing her onto AW. Clearly that never happened. Re: crossovers - this site has a list of them between AW/Somerset. www.anotherworldhomepage.com/spinoff3.html
+snowpeck With some of the classic soap channels gone now I'm not sure how much of the widely circulated material is still around, but I imagine it's a lot of time and effort. Thanks for sharing this.
yep, it is..in fact, Alan Gifford, who played Gordon Whitney (Geraldine's husband) on EON, was also on Somerset the same time as Lois Kibbee...late in 1973, LK returned to EOn and stayed to the series end in 1984..and Henry Slesar was head writer of Somerset at this time as well - along with being head scribe of EON..he should have stayed with 'Somerset': it would have helped....
now i'm confused: i thought Virgil Paris arranged the accident that put Rex Cooper in a wheelchair some time in August '72..does anyone remember when that did happen?...
I think 🤔that happens sometime in 1973. This episode is just the beginning of the Virgil Paris saga. Virgil Paris goes on to cause lots of trouble for Rex And Tony Cooper including Him assaulting Tony’s wife Ginger Kurtz
It was part of a two hour tape that also included that day's Mike Douglas Show. Another recording exists from that afternoon from WTOP that includes syndicated reruns of Gilligan's Island, Andy Griffith, Dragnet and part of the local news.
Just wonderful! Wish there was more. Bonus: that's Lara Parker (ex-Dark Shadows) in the Prell commercial.
I remember this episode when I was five, home from school for lunch. My mother had it on the kitchen counter black and white. Scared the bejesus out of me. To this day I see a clown I think of Jingles.
Christopher Pennock 💫
Lara Parker from "Dark Shadows" in the Prell ad!
Thanks. Never thought I'd see this. The Mary Hartman pigtails! Always wanted to see some of the Jingles the Clown story. I didn't know Sam Lucas was still around at this point. I wonder if Lahoma and India were already gone.
I see that that's Pamela Toll in an ad near the end, which is a little surreal, as she was on the first six months or so of Somerset, as Pammy Davis. And until recently, on the reruns of The Doctors as Liz Wilson.
i believe India was gone by this time - following an attempt on her life by husband Chuck Hillman (Edward Winter) who married her to get ahold of Delaney Brands..i'm not sure when Sam and Lahoma left Somerset..i do know Sam returned to Bay City, then made a 'guest' appearance to express his condolences to Rex Cooper after Laura's suicide...and i remember Pammy Davis and Tony Cooper (Doug Chapin) leaving Somerset at the same time, making Pamela Toll's time on Somerset about a year (according to the IMDb, she was still on TD when Somerset first went on the air..funny how she never seemed to visit sister Rachel in Bay City..i was still in school, so i don't know if there were ever any scenes between the two sisters - on either show...
Danny Hill That's interesting about Rahcel and Pammy. You'd think they must have interacted, but maybe not. I wish I could see some of Toll's work. I thought she was pretty good on The Doctors, but badly underused by her last year.
Ken George Jones the concept of a spin-off is to exist as a show on its own..except for Sam Lucas' one-episode late in 1973, i think AW and Somerset were 'separated'..to have Pammy and Rachel interact too much at any time would have made the audience expect these 'crossovers' would continue..if i remember it right, it was Sam who visited Rex after Laura's suicide - not brother Robert who may have been in Bay City by that time..that, too, would have created references the audience would have expected to continue..
have you heard anyone make the comparison between Barnabas and Maggie on DS with Liz Wilson and Philip Townsend on TD when he had her trapped in his dead daughter's room?..i didn't until someone else brought it up - then i saw the physical similarities between Jonathan Frid and the actor who played Philip; but the latter was definitely a rip from DS....
Danny Hill I've heard the comparison, yes. I can see it. I definitely think they were trying for a DS homage. Re: Pammy. I think I read in a soap magazine around the mid-late '80s they were thinking of bringing her onto AW. Clearly that never happened. Re: crossovers - this site has a list of them between AW/Somerset. www.anotherworldhomepage.com/spinoff3.html
OMG!!! Thank you for posting!!!!
would love to see more!!
Fantastic! thanks for sharing.
Sure nice to see daytime TV from this far back in great tape condition.
Future Match Game panelist Joyce Bulifant in that Biz commercial.
Detergent. @ 9:48.
This is amazing. Do you have any other episodes of this or any other 1970s soaps?
Every other soap episode I have (which isn't many) has been widely circulating. This is the only rarity.
+snowpeck Great job! Thank you
+snowpeck With some of the classic soap channels gone now I'm not sure how much of the widely circulated material is still around, but I imagine it's a lot of time and effort. Thanks for sharing this.
Sourced from NBC O&O station WRC-TV in Washington, DC.
how cool is that Lois Kibbee from Edge of night
yep, it is..in fact, Alan Gifford, who played Gordon Whitney (Geraldine's husband) on EON, was also on Somerset the same time as Lois Kibbee...late in 1973, LK returned to EOn and stayed to the series end in 1984..and Henry Slesar was head writer of Somerset at this time as well - along with being head scribe of EON..he should have stayed with 'Somerset': it would have helped....
now i'm confused: i thought Virgil Paris arranged the accident that put Rex Cooper in a wheelchair some time in August '72..does anyone remember when that did happen?...
I think 🤔that happens sometime in 1973. This episode is just the beginning of the Virgil Paris saga. Virgil Paris goes on to cause lots of trouble for Rex And Tony Cooper including Him assaulting Tony’s wife Ginger Kurtz
The guy in the Alpo commercial is Ron Carey who would go on later to be a Regular on Barney Miller
The Washington DC station ID would mean this comes from the National Archives and the White House recordings from election day!
It was part of a two hour tape that also included that day's Mike Douglas Show. Another recording exists from that afternoon from WTOP that includes syndicated reruns of Gilligan's Island, Andy Griffith, Dragnet and part of the local news.