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I mean not like PS5 pro is worth getting anyway so hey if it screws over scalpers and sony i consider this a win. I've never known such a worthless upgrade...if you can call it one...
as much as it makes me mad, too any company, scalpers are just as valuable, most likely even more valuable to a company then the average consumer. because a scalper will spend literally 100X more on the same product over and over again that they see as highly sought after so that they can resell it at 10 times the price. this is imo the reason companies treat us like utter garbage, because no matter what they can just jack up the prices of their product knowing that these scalpers will buy them in droves and make money off them. even the scalpers lose in this instance because if nobody buys the product then they just lost a TON of money for no benefit.
@@confucheesepretty sure his point is that people weren’t buying the pro for $700, so these scalpers probably aren’t gonna have much sales especially for thousands of dollars
The fact the only people who are buying them is people who don't even intend to play them is just down right wrong because at the end of the day it's still a sale and that's all Sony is gonna see and care about 🤦
@@PavelKrupets yeah well all I been hearing them boast about is the sales numbers not the active players actually using them and considering every review video I seen was I bought this just to see what it's like and so on and not a single person is shown them selves actively playing it I think it's safe to say the only people buying it are impulse buyers and scalpers and not true gamers I ain't seen anything anywhere to say otherwise 🤷
@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn do you have access to data or just type stuff without any proof? What's the point of scalping if best buy and Walmart have ps5 pro in stock?
Exactly, Sony still gets the money for a full price PS5 Pro. So they don't care if said PS5 Pros goes to a real customer or to a scalper. They made their money back and that's all that matters for most businesses.
Its true. They don't have any real incentive to stop scalpers. They're a big brand, and that alone is sufficient to drum hype for the console. The scarcity also helps since it makes it seem like they're selling well enough to turn a profit.
Then make them care by not buying their products until they change their ways. We have all the power to invoke change, but only if we exercise our power by not supporting companies when they pull this crap
I went to school for Database management, this can easily be solved in about 10 minutes or less but no retailer will for one simple reason: They are selling out and the sellers don't care.
the only reason i dont have a ps5 is because when i initially wanted to purchase it, it was sold out everywhere thanks to scalpers. once the moments passed, i stopped caring...not to mention most of the games i want to play are now on pc...so saved myself quite a bit of money
I feel the same. I just didn't care about getting the PS5 once the hype died out. Then it was enforced by the low game releases it's had in it's life. Literally have skipped this generation.
I got a PS5 last year, and honestly, it's one of the worst systems I have ever purchased. The quick menu was switched, so the ps4 memory trained you an entire generation just so they can switch it up this generation. The only thing I like is the speed. Everything loads very quickly. But my dualsense controller, just after a year of moderate usage (and took very good care of the controller) now the O button and X button don't work anymore. Only when I switch the buttons in the remap section of the unit then switch it back will the dualsense work. So it's not the controller per say but the damn system software or controller software. This Generation was a was of time and money, in my opinion.
The funniest part about the limited edition PS5 Pro bundle is that the bundle would have been pretty much the ONLY way I would buy a PS5 Pro, AT ALL, EVER, but instead they made it limited edition and let scalpers buy them all. I would never and will never pay 800-900$ for just a PS5 Pro console and a controller, without a stand, and if this is the direction Sony is going I might skip their next console and just get a decent PC upgrade. I've had every PlayStation since the beginning bc of the games but at this point Sony can get ****ed.
I recently upgraded my PC and I went from an old I seven to horizon 5700 X and I can tell you that the performance difference is insane for the value with the rise and processor and then I got the RTX 4080 on top of it and let me tell you all my games for flawless now there’s literally no point in me playing my PlayStation other than when I get on just to play with my brother or something
@@matt2.052 You mean Ryzen 7 5700X right? With an RTX 4080 on top... Rather bad pairing if I had to be honest. You should have gone with a 7800X 3D or at the bare minimum a 5800X 3D. You'll be severely CPU limiting yourself in CPU limited games with a 5700X. It'll also make going 4k harder too, assuming you got a 4080 to do 4k gaming.
Only mandatory, if you are stupid enough to buy their game. If you bought it accidentally, a refund should be in order, if you are unable to start it, because of that restriction.
The only way PSN would be worth anything on PC is if they bundle a PS1 and 2 emulator, and sell the ROMs of games like the Super Robot Taisen series localised in english.
This was the case for the 20th Anniversary edition for PS4. I think that especially was why there's even more of a scalping issue with the 30th Anniversary edition because of the high demand. Still not interested in getting the PS5, let alone the Pro
They definitely will not. People are currently buying these at $3000. Even if they sold them at $1500, they’re still making a profit. If someone posted one for $1500, it would sell in 10 minutes.
Scalping consists of two steps, the buying, then the selling at inflated price. Ebay, Amazon, etc, should ban certain listings for a certain time period.
Exactly! Thats why I don't blame scalpers, I blame the desperate rich folks. Scalpers are just trying to make money, nothing wrong with making money.@@paulthompson8793
1:35 it does, in fact, not justify the price of 999 bucks Who in their right mind would pay this much for a paintjob, slightly more pixels, a disk reader that was ALREADY bundled with the normal PS5 and a second controller?
I should honestly be thanking scalpers for one thing, at least. They helped give me the push I needed to finally start building my first gaming PC back when the original PS5 was scalped.
@@MothmanColdsounds like you suck at making computers. It's not hard. I've made my computer for $1200 and have been using it for 4 years without upgrades.
@@MothmanCold Yes, of course. What you said was ridiculous and I could sit here and argue with you and disprove what you said but a million other people have already done that. Have a good day.
Sony really made the perfect scheme for their 30th anniversary, celebrating years of a lack of inventory and no guage of anything the community wants. This has been going on since the playstation 3. I wont be coming back to their ecosystem, ill stay on pc and play the patient gamer for their exclusives to port over.
So let’s think about this for a second the ps5 pro is already ridiculously expensive for a console and not a lot of people like Sony at the moment. Yet the scalpers thought people would be willing to spend possibly more than $10.000 for one? As if people were desperate to get one.
@brkbtjunkie (🚨Long comment warning🚨) Ok let’s put it like this then you could probably buy 2 Xboxs series x’s or even 2 regular ps5’s for the cost of one ps5 pro pretty much and most people would probably not notice the difference in visual quality and before someone says “oh but Xbox’s are low quality trash” or something like that. Xbox’s are just as good as PlayStations you just don’t get the exclusives obviously. Also Xbox live is free to an extent because if it’s a free to play game you want to play then the online is free aswell. As for pc sure they can get way more expensive than consoles but they are objectively better in almost every way. Both pc and Xbox belong to Microsoft btw so if they really wanted to they could make console that is just as good as a high quality pc and possibly dominate the entire market and that would probably force Sony to lower there prices in order to compete. But Microsoft probably wouldn’t do that. But very simply most people don’t want to spend over/around $1000 for a gaming setup. Unless they have a lot of money or are a UA-camr/streamer that actually needs a decent setup. For example I’ve been playing video games on an almost daily basis for almost 30 years now and all I’ve ever needed is a tv something comfortable to lay down on or sit on and a console. Thats it nothing else and yet nowadays people act like having the most expensive stuff possible is going to somehow make them better at a game than the people that have spent years dominating every game they play. I’m not sure what the statistics are now but last I saw around 40-50% of gamers still use last gen consoles like the Xbox one for example. Because they don’t feel like they need to upgrade to next gen unless there’s a game they want that’s only available on next gen or they have the money to splurge on a new console for the sake of getting one. Also as for loading times yes next gen is obviously going to be better but you don’t need faster loading times and all that stuff for every single game that exists.
The issue also falls on sites like ebay. They need to recognize this and either delete the sales or intentionally lower the price point below original sale value.
Yeah, even the law with supply and demand prices can only increase a small percentage above original listed sale price on any given product. You would think that selling gaming consoles or anything so high above the actual retail price would be considered illegal.
Because the people with the authority to do something almost never does, talking only helps if they notice, that's why aside from talking about things we would like changed we also have to do it the right places and for a much longer time, you have to create outrage and make the issue larger then it actually is for the right people to feel the pressure.
Sony should get a class action lawsuit for false advertising the original ps5 as 8k and 120FPS. It's stamped right on the box itself. Should get another lawsuit for these ridiculous prices and not protect their items from scalpers.
@@mesmorrowyes. Just see how long it took for lootboxes to be banned in some countries. Whilst other countries that benefit the most from their existence turned a blind eye. See how long it's taken for some law makers to actually start taking notice to customers purchasing games online, having their access removed at zero notice for them to require all online purchases to start being more clear in regards of purchasing a license to access said product than for clear ownership. The intended end game of that situation is for digital ownership to be treated the same. Takes a stupid amount of time of people being vocal for things to slowly take change for the better.
Truthfully, im dreading the day when the switch 2 becomes available for preorder and its impossible for an average joe to get one all these scalper fuck heads buy them in bulk and sell them for 10X the retail price, this shit should be illegal!
Sony just straight up doesn’t care about its customers. I’ve been waiting months for them to put more of their Dualsense Edge thumb modules on sale but nothing. Can’t wait to get stick drift again
This is done on purpose mind you, why have you fix the stick drift issue by paying 20 dollars for the stick module when they can make 70+ selling you a whole new dual sense?
They need to just start selling these in stores instead of online because how is regular person supposed to get them if scalpers are the first to get them
This will not work with the limited run. Imagine 12,300 units spread across retail stores globally. You’ll be lucky that your local gamestop/best gets one unit lol.
@@j3tl3 they shouldn't even limit the console to such a low number, if they made more special edition ps5s they would sell like hot cakes, or at least increase the quantity to 500,000 or something because they're killing their fan base by not doing so
Oh please! At least the Amiibos (some Amiibos) had SOME value (And made some pretty funny cursed memes with a few figures missing parts or just having parts misplaced in the wrong areas).
This is why when I bought a current gen console on launch I used a gift card for the deposit. It circumvents the queue of bots attacking bank transactions or crashing the site
Exactly my point! If they aren't going to take proactive steps to ensure that they care about their fans...the ones who actually support them...then we as consumers need to make them listen the only way we know how
@@aconceitedbeast731 I'll be honest that's something that never works especially if there's no competition. As for why playstation don't care about their loyal fans, the #1 trophy hunter got his details leaked by playstation and then was banned for no reason. I've been a playstation user for 15 years, nevermind getting extra perks or privileges for being long term customers, we can't even get the basics such as refunds compared to what users on steam get for example
@@aki-sid it would work if people even showed the slightest bit of resolve. Sony just released a supposed "Pro" console with no disc drive. We don't even get something as simple as cloud saves unless we pay extra for PS plus. There's been barely any great exclusives this generation. They want to try to force live services down our throats even though most people clearly don't want it. Personally it's enough for me to say I'm not supporting them anymore unless they change their practices.
It's a fucking mess. -Scalping has economically destroyed gaming -PSN is controversial to even use now, what with others getting banned and odd things happening to those gamers afterwards -No disk drive
Tin Foil hat time... I think the scalpers are the main factor behind reliable console sales. This is why I believe Sony didn't care if they made the PS5 Pro $800 or the special edition $1000. Sony has a history of losing money on their consoles when selling to consumers. They don't have to worry about this if scalpers are going to swoop up an entire shipment and they get a sales spike for the current quarter
@@josephpurdy8390 how are you gonna resell it for even higher prices if the product is allegedly not even wanted at MSRP? This only makes sense doing if the product is in high demand
I was watching an unboxing video on youtube for the 30th anniv pro edition bundle. This couple were proud owners and were so happy as they were unboxing. They were even dressed in their playstation tee shirt attire. I too was happy for them until the guy stated he had another one boxed and ready to be put on ebay. He claimed he tried to sell to friends at regular cost but nobody took him up on his offer. He stated he wasn't going to "go crazy" on the scalping. At that point I went from happy for them to just flat out disgusted.
They got their money, but imagine how much MORE money they could have made if they increased the supply! They could have easily made triple or more money! But apparently FOMO trumps profits nowadays
How is making something exclusive benefits fans? If you make something cool people would love to buy, make sure the supply is enough for people to buy it without having to jump thorugh so many loops.
Same with the stick modules for the edge controller. You cannot release a console without a disc drive and a controller with swappable joystick modules and then not have a mass supply. There’s shouldn’t be an after market for this stuff at all.
You’re supposed to get PS+ Premium so that you can play some games over the Holidays, if you had a disc drive you can’t be forced in to the subscription in order to have a game to play.
…people saying to just not buy from Sony don’t seem to get that the scalpers still are. The company doesn’t care where money comes from. If they get money, that’s what matters. You’d have to go long enough to make scalpers stop too, and given that we are even having this conversation after how the ps5 was released, we clearly aren’t going to make that happen.
why would they care. long as someone is buying it at the price they set they don't care who gets it. makes the consoles look more popular and tricks people into thinking it's in high demand.
Sony coulda just put together a collection of the 30 best games no longer available and sold it cheap as a true thank you to fans and made a bunch more money.
If Sony cared about fans, they would make a fortune JUST making old games available to buy! All but free money! But they won't do that, because they have to force their latest Live Service drivel onto the community instead
Sony stopped caring about their fan base for a while now. Whether the fans, collectors or scalpers buy them, all they care about is how fast units sell.
Only point in favor of this limited edition version, is because it's a PS5 pro _that comes with the disc drive!_ Sony cannot be trusted with digital, and has proven that in the past (and to me specifically). There's no reason to look at a $700 console that lacks support for physical media; especially if I can't jailbreak and run my own stuff on it right away.
I think that's just the cover for the disc drive you buy separately. The 30th anniversary slim is the same way. They give you a cover, but you still need to buy the disc drive
@ZeroHourProductions407 ya, i managed to get a 30th anniversary slim and bought a disc drive months ago to beat the shortage we all knew was going to happen, and the box just has a disc drive plate that matches the color of the console
Playstation don't care at all. At the end of the day theyre getting money for it. Keep in mind this is a company who banned their number 1 trophy hunter. They could not care less about their fanbase
Dont forget that SONY wants to enforce PSN network also on PC and wants MONOPOLY on media games and social interaction on a only SONY platform...Privacy will be death and also they want remove any ather company ofcourse in this system. + Not giving a crap about there number 1 thropy hunter fanboy. Its clear to me they got different plans i cant agree with so for me its very much goodbye SONY.
Easy solution: Market platforms like Ebay *ban* inflated prices for preordered items and recently released stuff. But of course they won't do that, because greed.
Why would eBay care even aside from profit it's not their job the only people who can stop scalpers if the consumer if you don't buy from them they will stop when. There is no money to be made what people don't seem to get is the guy buying the playstation for 3x the retail cost is just as guilty as the scalper and from the retailer it doesn't matter we set out to sale x number of a product at X price and as long as they sale we don't care
This is the best thing, if Sony doesn't want to grow its base then let the scalpers continue to flourish because they might buy the hardware, but they will not be buying the games or accessories or PSN pass etc.
I have the original Playstation, the ps2, the ps3 and a ps4, but I haven´t bought a ps5, yet. I´m not sure if I should get one, I feel like I don´t need one.
I do too. Been playing since 1997 on all those consoles. Currently own the ps4 pro and I feel like not buying the ps5 since I dont need it. Still got a big library of games for ps4.
This is WHY when people asked me "if you love video games why did you wait 3 years after its release." Honestly it wasn't ever in available to me until the supply chain and scalpers were solved.
Yeah, I understand anyone soured on Sony at this point. I got a PS5 without scalping nonsense (guess where I lived, scalpers aren't as active?) And I had a lot of games on it I enjoyed and played. But for most other people, it seems like ti was just a disaster.
I don't know when it started, I know I heard it first time that Blizzard did it, but I won't credit them for inventing it - it is that not releasing items "FULLY invented but in patches/parts" is coming true............. They don't release full potential phones/game consoles/MMO/RPG... they release HALF the potential, hide options that SHOULD'VE been there for their next "upgrade" and this should become an awareness.... and companies need to stop but why should they. It's easy to milk us.
I've got a funny idea about why they might NOT have put the requirements in place in the USA. Is it possible that the laws here might accidently make it illegal? To require that you not JUST be a member, but also a member in good standing, defined by being active on such an such a day? In most states you can't be kept out of a store if they sell, they have to sell TO YOU, though members can be given a discount for being a member. So... what's the fix?
It feels so sad to me to know the struggle I felt trying to buy a PS5 (same with Nintendo Switch in 2020) IS STILL GOING ON. Yong, never in my life had I ever had to *look* at a restock website, but these people had me *sign up and turn on notifications* I HAD TO TRY TO ORDER A PS5 WHILE AT WORK RINGING PEOPLE UP AT THE REGISTER AND STILL I WASN'T FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE SOMEONE BOUGHT THE PS5 I ALREADY HAD IN MY CART BECAUSE THEY CLEARED THE INVENTORY IN LESS THAN A MINUTE. THIS *SHOULD BE ILLEGAL* I get it that it's tempting, and I knew people who paid the bills by doing it but it doesn't make it OK or a valid business tactic it's the same thing that any other company who doesn't want you to resell you are buying something at full price then selling it for double or quadruple. This is the same thing as buying a tub of ice cream for $5 and charging $10 per scoop.
If I was you I would buy a mid tier Windows pc, sign up to Steam and let the console companies like Sony and Nintendo figure it out, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are supposed to come to us and ask us to buy their consoles, we shouldn't be the once to chase them begging for a video game console that is 2 or 4 times it's original price in our local shops, it's up to the likes of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to figure out how to get their products near us and at there original price.
@@dsouthmonster This is the first console generation I am skipping since the PS2. It's obvious that Sony doesn't give two damns about their customers and their policies/recent actions reflect that. The good news is that the only reason for buying consoles (exclusives) is disappearing since the games make their way to PC's eventually. I'm still salty at how they treated the Vita lol
@zzygyy I got mine the same way Playstation Direct was very helpful. I like that they give you a place guaranteed in cue, and when it's time for you, you get a little bell. Lol
Sony should put the spooks into the scalper’s by announcing that they will manufacture millions more PS5 Pro’s 30th anniversary models. I’m sure the scalpers will be forced to sell them quickly and probably cheaper then they brought them for as it will be 2nd hand in the sense it won’t come with the store warranty!
I have over 5k invested into PlayStation with an account with just over 200 games and 40 platinums. Still have no Reason to switch back from series x after almost three years.
They should say they have 12000, then when it's almost out of stock, reveal they have another 12000 and keep going. I mean do they legally have to state the exact amount they have manufactured?
Sony was bricking PS5 consoles and allowing scalpers to purchase via multiple psn fake accounts… Sony forcing you buy limited disk drive separately is another shitty move… i am starting to see that digital future is pretty much renting of games no real ownership
Scalpers suck BUT I don't blame them, I blame the buyers. They keep buying from scalpers and scalpers know it and thats why they do it. Customers have to stop buying from scalpers and eventually the scalpers will stop and move on to something else. STOP BUYING FROM SCALPERS AND KEEPING THEM IN BUSINESS!
Look at China. Lots of goods are scarce and that leads to rampant scalping. They can't just not buy from them, 100% of anything is scalped. The more communist it gets, the less goods are available
@@juls9796 It's almost like I think scalping is bad, and we should hold businesses to a higher standard. I'm never going to buy a PS5, I simply, do not need or want one. But, not only is scalping extremely scummy, it's unfair on PS fans and could bleed into other industries. The longer we allow scalping, the worse and more egregious it's going to get.
They do care. About scalpers, not you. If a scalper buys 10 units and a regular coatomer only buys one, then the scalper is worth 10x the amount of the normie to the company.
@@VaughanDavies Even if Sony asking you to provide SSN for verification, scalper will still found a way to fool the system. The only way to win a game against scalper is not selling stuff online, but that will cost a lot more money to distribute.
I mean I was stoked on possibly buying the controller only.. but since i found out that the PS3”4 buttons fit the PS5 that don’t have color I’ll be making my own.. and there are shell swap kits that help.
This establishes a pattern. Same thing happening with the original PS5 launch. If you think the launch of PS5 Pro is a circus, bro, wait until PS6. Sony doesn't care. But I'm a PC Gamer. I'll be sitting back watching in amusement.
They could have taken the play time but thing a step further as well. Have 100 hours of various play time across multiple games and have a game trophy count say like 200 trophies associated with your account. Ain’t no scalper gonna do that for hundreds of accounts. And your account would need to be varified at checkout with Sony and psn. If it’s for the fans and people that have been around since the mid nineties playing the OG ps1 I think those are reasonable requirements since they are dead set on making so little.
As an old PlayStation supporter, I've had every single PlayStation console and I wanted this 30th anniversary edition so bad and then when I saw the prices on eBay and they were sold out on the Sony website PlayStation website I was very saddened and dejected and felt defeated because in my opinion Sony needed to win with all the bad drama that's been happening with Sony as far as bad publicity, in the end I just ended up getting me a regular PS5 pro The nostalgia for me with that color scheme would have been great for me but alas it looks like I'll never be able to own one....😒🤦😞
@@JohnnyFish971 PS3 was launched in 2006... Launch games were Resistance: Fall of Man, Ridge Racer 7, Call of Duty 3, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7... What are you talking about? Yes, PS4 for the first 3 years of its life was just a Bloodborne box, but devs hit their stride after that. PS5, 4 years later, still doesn't have a system seller.
@@yeahright9014 damn i miss Resistance...but mustly sports games no? I mean real exclusives like Killzone and God of War Also Ps5 launch in a Pandemic i blame it
Its actually not financially smart to not make security measures either. The less the consoles get into the players hands, the less yearly/monthly subscriptions they sell. Let alone micro transactions. It affects sony and their purchased development companies.
I can't imagine anyone would buy the limited edition PS5pro as their first ever PSN tied console. Even without considering its meant to be a collector's item as well, that's alot of extra money to invest into a platform they'd be trying for their first time.
@MazeMaker4Life I'm speaking about Sony as a whole. With the initial release, it was the same problem. If they had already handled the issue back then, we wouldn't be in this problem right now. They would've had more subscriptions during relase had they handled the scalping situation better. And besides, your point still doesn't matter. They have to think that someone out there is gifting it to someone else, etc. Remember, these machines are selling at a loss, because they're so expensive to make. Their money comes from PSN.
We at Sony have heard your concerns and have decided to release 30th anniversary PS5 Pros. Only 500 will be available worldwide. Also you need an active annual PSN subscription (highest tier) to be eligible to purchase. Happy Gaming!
You’ll pay more, but this is the way. Once you experience pc gaming it really is the only way to game. I’ll take 1440 maxed with 144 fps vs the 4k 60fps they push on the consoles that 99% of the games can’t even take advantage of. It’s a joke
@ entry level rog ally is $300 now, steam deck is also accessible for about $500. A standard desktop/laptop is around $800. A quality one is around $1000-$1200. It’s still a cheaper threshold than the absolute travesty that is the sony console market. To add insult to injury there is no “additional” fee to use the only services outside of your standard telecom bill; what a concept I know.
Who cares about the PS5 Pro? My Walmart has had a case of them sitting since launch and I haven't seen one disappear. If your willing to pay scalper prices for a retro piece of plastic you're an idiot.
I think they do care... To an extent They'd much rather have you spend 1K on the console and 2K on buying games and accessories from them, instead of having you spend 3K on the console from a third party and nothing on games and accessories because you spent your entire entertainment budget ... But again, they probably don't realistically care *that* much. Otherwise they'd take measures to try to prevent this
Buy a mid tier Windows pc, sign up to Steam and let the console companies like Sony and Nintendo figure it out, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are supposed to come to us and ask us to buy their consoles, we shouldn't be the once to chase them begging for a video game console that is 2 or 4 times it's original price in our local shops, it's up to the likes of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to figure out how to get their products near us and at a reasonable original price.
I was annoyed I didn't get an Anniversary Edition PS5 Pro at first but then I realized it's just a PS5 Pro that's been painted battleship grey instead of white. That is literally the only difference. Ignore the scalpers and just buy the standard edition PS5 Pro.
The bare minimum they could have done is strike a deal with retailers such as GameStop to exclusively sell the PS5 limited edition. The buyer would have to be forced to produce identification to show that they are buying one console and they cannot return to any other GameStop to buy another one because on file it is shown that they have already purchased one. Would have easily protected the consumers who want to get their hands on a limited edition console at retail price and it would have helped drive business for GameStop too. It's sad we live in a world where measures like this would even need to be considered.
I was literally in line to get 30th anniversary stuff on the site, but by the time I got in, the only thing I could get was a regular controller. I wanted the Dualsense Edge since I use that controller the most but didn't want a duplicate color. I also wanted a Portal since I use mine almost as much or more than my actual console and TV and would have sold mine for it. Scalpers are literally ruining gaming for me in a big way. I've been playing video games for over 30 years and have owned every console for Xbox, PS, and Nintendo including all handhelds and Sega's Genesis console and Game Gear handheld. I used to love pre-ordering collector's editions from GameStop and highly anticipating the cool stuff that came with it. Now, I barely buy games anymore unless they are older games and never buy collector's editions anymore because I either can't get my hands on them in time or they are just awful. I feel like game companies don't even make the special editions worth it anymore in large part due to scalpers. Not even gonna mention how awful 2024 games have been. I've literally only bought 3 games that came out this year and 2 of them were annual sports games (the 3rd being the new Zelda game).
It’s funny how delusional these people are. Thousands for a reskin? Just wait till a company releases a do it yourself skin that copies this 😂 people who buy these consoles from scalpers….may survival of the fittest catch up to you
1:37 "It's a $999.99 bundle that justifies-" I'm gonna stop you right there, Yong. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING justifies a $1000 price point for a mere cosmetic!
Thank you for covering this, I had no idea it was still this bad. It is so silly how much sony is messing this up and I didn't know Valve did so much to prevent scalpers, It sounds like a really good idea to have ways to check accounts ain't scalpers or their bots.
I really don't think making more units is the answer here. Sony already sold these as a limited edition item. That was very explicitly a selling point for the bundle. Taking that away is probably some form of false marketing Not making it explicitly limited edition in the first place though? That I can get behind
Didn't Sony learn from the PS5 launch??? Not that I wanted the PS5 Pro anniversary edition.......... But people buying them all up to resell them at a profit is just wrong
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I mean not like PS5 pro is worth getting anyway so hey if it screws over scalpers and sony i consider this a win.
I've never known such a worthless upgrade...if you can call it one...
Thank you Chong Yue for the awesome news
They need to make enough not to over saturate the market, but make enough to limit scalping. Make 30-50k of them.
Personal information is likely there because of Sony....
as much as it makes me mad, too any company, scalpers are just as valuable, most likely even more valuable to a company then the average consumer. because a scalper will spend literally 100X more on the same product over and over again that they see as highly sought after so that they can resell it at 10 times the price. this is imo the reason companies treat us like utter garbage, because no matter what they can just jack up the prices of their product knowing that these scalpers will buy them in droves and make money off them. even the scalpers lose in this instance because if nobody buys the product then they just lost a TON of money for no benefit.
From what I remember, most didn't want to buy ps5 pro at standard price, let alone several times higher.
Is the situation the same for the limited edition version, though
People aren’t buying the Anniversary Edition Pro for the performance bro
It's ego stroking and morons that buy these.
@@confucheesepretty sure his point is that people weren’t buying the pro for $700, so these scalpers probably aren’t gonna have much sales especially for thousands of dollars
@@confucheese SO they ae overpaying for looks...rEAL SMART /S
Anyone who buys a scalped PS5 Pro at this point is just a victim of darwinism.
It's called " I have F U money. "
I get what you're trying to say but tbh your comment makes absolutely no sense. I don't think you know what Darwinism is😂
@@undisclosedsteve6361 Fitness as a concept can just as well be applied to financial decisions. To waste money is to become less fit.
you mean reverse darwinism? Thanks Dr. Grant.
@@undisclosedsteve6361how would you feel if you didn’t have breakfast this morning?
I hear scalpers are struggling to sell PS5 Pros. You love to see it 😂
Yep! In stock everywhere 😂.
I saw one for 49K. I was like “wut?”.
Yep, no optical drive with the pro. Big NO for me. I am just going to get a regular PS5 slim.
Well at least in Europe they probably make up for it with all the scalped disc drives that aren't available anythere for a normal price.
@@NINJASTAR359 Yep, and just wait a few years for that PS6, which will be easy given we've seen barely any exclusives coming out.
They're incentived to let scalpers buy all their stock because that's the only thing investors will see, that they sold out. It's a terrible system.
Even though it hurts them in the long run since there are a very few actual players that buy their games because most consoles are owned by scalpers
The fact the only people who are buying them is people who don't even intend to play them is just down right wrong because at the end of the day it's still a sale and that's all Sony is gonna see and care about 🤦
They aren't as stupid, they know number of players and their respective consoles.
@@PavelKrupets yeah well all I been hearing them boast about is the sales numbers not the active players actually using them and considering every review video I seen was I bought this just to see what it's like and so on and not a single person is shown them selves actively playing it I think it's safe to say the only people buying it are impulse buyers and scalpers and not true gamers I ain't seen anything anywhere to say otherwise 🤷
@JoshuaVaughan-pi1sn do you have access to data or just type stuff without any proof? What's the point of scalping if best buy and Walmart have ps5 pro in stock?
They don't care because they get money out of it
Exactly, Sony still gets the money for a full price PS5 Pro. So they don't care if said PS5 Pros goes to a real customer or to a scalper. They made their money back and that's all that matters for most businesses.
„For the Players“
I read that the original PS5 cost Sony $450, so the scalpers make 10x what Sony does. Sure, Sony makes money but come on...
Its true.
They don't have any real incentive to stop scalpers. They're a big brand, and that alone is sufficient to drum hype for the console.
The scarcity also helps since it makes it seem like they're selling well enough to turn a profit.
Then make them care by not buying their products until they change their ways. We have all the power to invoke change, but only if we exercise our power by not supporting companies when they pull this crap
I went to school for Database management, this can easily be solved in about 10 minutes or less but no retailer will for one simple reason: They are selling out and the sellers don't care.
the only reason i dont have a ps5 is because when i initially wanted to purchase it, it was sold out everywhere thanks to scalpers. once the moments passed, i stopped caring...not to mention most of the games i want to play are now on pc...so saved myself quite a bit of money
Same here.
same
I was tempted to get a PS5 for the exclusives. in the end, Scalpers probably saved me thousands
Same tbh
I feel the same. I just didn't care about getting the PS5 once the hype died out. Then it was enforced by the low game releases it's had in it's life. Literally have skipped this generation.
I got a PS5 last year, and honestly, it's one of the worst systems I have ever purchased. The quick menu was switched, so the ps4 memory trained you an entire generation just so they can switch it up this generation. The only thing I like is the speed. Everything loads very quickly. But my dualsense controller, just after a year of moderate usage (and took very good care of the controller) now the O button and X button don't work anymore. Only when I switch the buttons in the remap section of the unit then switch it back will the dualsense work. So it's not the controller per say but the damn system software or controller software. This Generation was a was of time and money, in my opinion.
The funniest part about the limited edition PS5 Pro bundle is that the bundle would have been pretty much the ONLY way I would buy a PS5 Pro, AT ALL, EVER, but instead they made it limited edition and let scalpers buy them all. I would never and will never pay 800-900$ for just a PS5 Pro console and a controller, without a stand, and if this is the direction Sony is going I might skip their next console and just get a decent PC upgrade. I've had every PlayStation since the beginning bc of the games but at this point Sony can get ****ed.
I recently upgraded my PC and I went from an old I seven to horizon 5700 X and I can tell you that the performance difference is insane for the value with the rise and processor and then I got the RTX 4080 on top of it and let me tell you all my games for flawless now there’s literally no point in me playing my PlayStation other than when I get on just to play with my brother or something
Its a fact that pc is way better@@matt2.052
Don’t forget about the disk drive being separate too
I have a pc and no need for a ps5 or ps5 pro. Yet, if this wasn’t limited in supply, i definitely would’ve bought it too
@@matt2.052 You mean Ryzen 7 5700X right? With an RTX 4080 on top... Rather bad pairing if I had to be honest. You should have gone with a 7800X 3D or at the bare minimum a 5800X 3D. You'll be severely CPU limiting yourself in CPU limited games with a 5700X. It'll also make going 4k harder too, assuming you got a 4080 to do 4k gaming.
They have the time, money and resources to create a new PSNetwork mandatory system for PC gamers but not for catching scalp bots
The irony
They do not care. Money already earned.
Only mandatory, if you are stupid enough to buy their game. If you bought it accidentally, a refund should be in order, if you are unable to start it, because of that restriction.
The only way PSN would be worth anything on PC is if they bundle a PS1 and 2 emulator, and sell the ROMs of games like the Super Robot Taisen series localised in english.
Because not having PSN accounts affects their numbers. Scalpers don’t. Since they’re still giving Sony money
@@CoOlKyUbI96Sonys devs create the games. They still get money either way.
"PS5 Pro is not worth the money, we don't want it!"
Sony: hmm what it we slightly change color
*sold out everywhere forever*
This was the case for the 20th Anniversary edition for PS4.
I think that especially was why there's even more of a scalping issue with the 30th Anniversary edition because of the high demand.
Still not interested in getting the PS5, let alone the Pro
Sadly bc must ppl suffer from Goldfish syndrome
I completely forgot the ps5 pro was a thing lol
Tbh same lol
It’s in stock everywhere. There will probably be plenty left by the time the ps6 comes around 😂.
😂😂😂😂. Me 2. Who cares
I only remember it because I saw a video of Skeletor preseting the PS5 Pro, and the only reason I remember this console edition exist😆.
If they're lucky the US Army will buy the consoles to make a central computer out if them.
Not in Japan, they didn't have an issue. You know what's not an issue as well? Not buying a 1000 dollar console, actual money saved.
Yes same thing in Japan he just showed results from Japan bud
@@matt2.052 honestly mobile game is bigger in their home country, it was expected that ps5 doesnt sell that well there
For that u get a beefy pc.
And games cost 5 euros during sales.
Sony: the fuck is a sale
I'm getting a feeling scalpers will end up losing money over this
as they should nobody should be buying from those scumbags
They definitely will not. People are currently buying these at $3000. Even if they sold them at $1500, they’re still making a profit. If someone posted one for $1500, it would sell in 10 minutes.
There will always be a fool who wants to brag about having a fomo unit.
@@YoureBad42069 $3k! Shit couldn’t be me bruh people play more video games then getting a better job or hobby 😭😭
Sadly no not with this one
Scalping consists of two steps, the buying, then the selling at inflated price. Ebay, Amazon, etc, should ban certain listings for a certain time period.
Logical
Logical
On one hand, yes, on the other, if nobody actually bought that items at inflated prices, there wouldn't be a problem.
Just dont buy them leave the Scalpers out of pocket.
Sadly this doesn't work, always tons of people out there with more money than sense.
Exactly! Thats why I don't blame scalpers, I blame the desperate rich folks. Scalpers are just trying to make money, nothing wrong with making money.@@paulthompson8793
1:35 it does, in fact, not justify the price of 999 bucks
Who in their right mind would pay this much for a paintjob, slightly more pixels, a disk reader that was ALREADY bundled with the normal PS5 and a second controller?
The limited bundle doesn’t include the disc drive, only the special cover for one you have to buy seperately
I should honestly be thanking scalpers for one thing, at least.
They helped give me the push I needed to finally start building my first gaming PC back when the original PS5 was scalped.
@@MothmanCold nice bait
@@MothmanColdsounds like someone can't handle windows lol
@@MothmanColdsounds like you suck at making computers. It's not hard. I've made my computer for $1200 and have been using it for 4 years without upgrades.
@@MothmanCold still bait
@@MothmanCold Yes, of course. What you said was ridiculous and I could sit here and argue with you and disprove what you said but a million other people have already done that. Have a good day.
Sony really made the perfect scheme for their 30th anniversary, celebrating years of a lack of inventory and no guage of anything the community wants. This has been going on since the playstation 3.
I wont be coming back to their ecosystem, ill stay on pc and play the patient gamer for their exclusives to port over.
So let’s think about this for a second the ps5 pro is already ridiculously expensive for a console and not a lot of people like Sony at the moment.
Yet the scalpers thought people would be willing to spend possibly more than $10.000 for one?
As if people were desperate to get one.
Is it? Adjusted for inflation, if the ps3 was sold today in 2024 money, it would be sold for $935
@brkbtjunkie
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Ok let’s put it like this then you could probably buy 2 Xboxs series x’s or even 2 regular ps5’s for the cost of one ps5 pro pretty much and most people would probably not notice the difference in visual quality and before someone says “oh but Xbox’s are low quality trash” or something like that.
Xbox’s are just as good as PlayStations you just don’t get the exclusives obviously.
Also Xbox live is free to an extent because if it’s a free to play game you want to play then the online is free aswell.
As for pc sure they can get way more expensive than consoles but they are objectively better in almost every way.
Both pc and Xbox belong to Microsoft btw so if they really wanted to they could make console that is just as good as a high quality pc and possibly dominate the entire market and that would probably force Sony to lower there prices in order to compete.
But Microsoft probably wouldn’t do that.
But very simply most people don’t want to spend over/around $1000 for a gaming setup.
Unless they have a lot of money or are a UA-camr/streamer that actually needs a decent setup.
For example I’ve been playing video games on an almost daily basis for almost 30 years now and all I’ve ever needed is a tv something comfortable to lay down on or sit on and a console.
Thats it nothing else and yet nowadays people act like having the most expensive stuff possible is going to somehow make them better at a game than the people that have spent years dominating every game they play.
I’m not sure what the statistics are now but last I saw around 40-50% of gamers still use last gen consoles like the Xbox one for example.
Because they don’t feel like they need to upgrade to next gen unless there’s a game they want that’s only available on next gen or they have the money to splurge on a new console for the sake of getting one.
Also as for loading times yes next gen is obviously going to be better but you don’t need faster loading times and all that stuff for every single game that exists.
The issue also falls on sites like ebay. They need to recognize this and either delete the sales or intentionally lower the price point below original sale value.
Yeah, even the law with supply and demand prices can only increase a small percentage above original listed sale price on any given product. You would think that selling gaming consoles or anything so high above the actual retail price would be considered illegal.
The amount we let slide as humans is absolutely insane. We talk about it online and that's it. Just words at this point when we never take action.
Most emotional and immature audience. That's why no respect.
Because the people with the authority to do something almost never does, talking only helps if they notice, that's why aside from talking about things we would like changed we also have to do it the right places and for a much longer time, you have to create outrage and make the issue larger then it actually is for the right people to feel the pressure.
Sony should get a class action lawsuit for false advertising the original ps5 as 8k and 120FPS. It's stamped right on the box itself. Should get another lawsuit for these ridiculous prices and not protect their items from scalpers.
@@mesmorrowyes. Just see how long it took for lootboxes to be banned in some countries. Whilst other countries that benefit the most from their existence turned a blind eye. See how long it's taken for some law makers to actually start taking notice to customers purchasing games online, having their access removed at zero notice for them to require all online purchases to start being more clear in regards of purchasing a license to access said product than for clear ownership. The intended end game of that situation is for digital ownership to be treated the same.
Takes a stupid amount of time of people being vocal for things to slowly take change for the better.
@@ccolin113 that's not how lawsuits work.
I run a retro store and the scalpers who try and pull this nonsense with me is crazy
I’m not looking forward to the Hell that is going to be finding a Switch 2
Truthfully, im dreading the day when the switch 2 becomes available for preorder and its impossible for an average joe to get one all these scalper fuck heads buy them in bulk and sell them for 10X the retail price, this shit should be illegal!
yep you're right its going to be a feeding frenzy for those scalpers to get it first
@harrycarson6526 even if it was, they wouldn't using their own account. There's always loop holes
And it'll take years to get one of these easily
I'm counting on Nintendo to flood the market, considering their hardware is typically not as advanced as their competitors.
I swore off Sony when the original ps5 scalper craze happened. Haven’t bought Sony since, nor will I.
😂nobody cares
@ You cared enough to reply. Thanks. 😁
Good for you. Speak with your wallet
@@taco1010Nobody cares about you in general😂
@@L0RDNIK0N001THAT PART!
Sony just straight up doesn’t care about its customers. I’ve been waiting months for them to put more of their Dualsense Edge thumb modules on sale but nothing. Can’t wait to get stick drift again
I just got my stick drift. I barely use the controller :(
This is done on purpose mind you, why have you fix the stick drift issue by paying 20 dollars for the stick module when they can make 70+ selling you a whole new dual sense?
Once my controller gets messed up, I go 3rd party 😂😂😂
That's what happens when you pay the Apple of gaming
They never have dude.
They need to just start selling these in stores instead of online because how is regular person supposed to get them if scalpers are the first to get them
True, but in stores, you’ll definitely have to get confrontational with people in order to secure one too many greedy people in this world.
This will not work with the limited run. Imagine 12,300 units spread across retail stores globally. You’ll be lucky that your local gamestop/best gets one unit lol.
@@j3tl3 they shouldn't even limit the console to such a low number, if they made more special edition ps5s they would sell like hot cakes, or at least increase the quantity to 500,000 or something because they're killing their fan base by not doing so
They should have made all launch quarter 5Pro the 30th anniversary edition. Everybody would have won.
Amiibo collectors since 2014: "First time?"
Oh please! At least the Amiibos (some Amiibos) had SOME value (And made some pretty funny cursed memes with a few figures missing parts or just having parts misplaced in the wrong areas).
This is why when I bought a current gen console on launch I used a gift card for the deposit. It circumvents the queue of bots attacking bank transactions or crashing the site
If Sony doesn't want to handle the problem head on for the sake of their devoted fans, we shouldn't buy their products
They don't care at all about their fans and that's a fact
Exactly my point! If they aren't going to take proactive steps to ensure that they care about their fans...the ones who actually support them...then we as consumers need to make them listen the only way we know how
@@aconceitedbeast731 I'll be honest that's something that never works especially if there's no competition. As for why playstation don't care about their loyal fans, the #1 trophy hunter got his details leaked by playstation and then was banned for no reason.
I've been a playstation user for 15 years, nevermind getting extra perks or privileges for being long term customers, we can't even get the basics such as refunds compared to what users on steam get for example
@@aki-sid abandon playstation
come to PC
it's better value for money compared to a PS5 pro, and you get all the perks of being a Steam user
@@aki-sid it would work if people even showed the slightest bit of resolve. Sony just released a supposed "Pro" console with no disc drive. We don't even get something as simple as cloud saves unless we pay extra for PS plus. There's been barely any great exclusives this generation. They want to try to force live services down our throats even though most people clearly don't want it. Personally it's enough for me to say I'm not supporting them anymore unless they change their practices.
It's a fucking mess.
-Scalping has economically destroyed gaming
-PSN is controversial to even use now, what with others getting banned and odd things happening to those gamers afterwards
-No disk drive
I look forward to hearing about scalpers having difficulty selling these useless bricks.
Tin Foil hat time... I think the scalpers are the main factor behind reliable console sales. This is why I believe Sony didn't care if they made the PS5 Pro $800 or the special edition $1000. Sony has a history of losing money on their consoles when selling to consumers. They don't have to worry about this if scalpers are going to swoop up an entire shipment and they get a sales spike for the current quarter
They figured the Pro wouldn't sell massively. So why not artificially inflate those numbers by having the scalpers buy em all
That makes no sense, you only scalp products that are in high demand, if people didn't want the Pro there wouldn't be scalpers for it.
Start a shell company. Buy all the inventory. Resell it all for more than retail. Then, send the profit to Sony.
@@josephpurdy8390 how are you gonna resell it for even higher prices if the product is allegedly not even wanted at MSRP? This only makes sense doing if the product is in high demand
@Brownaut1993 dumbest thing i have heard. Why would a scalper waste his money on a product that doesn't sell? Unless the scalpers work for sony lol!
@@hyrel668 Apparently that some scalpers didn't understand that based off what I've been reading.
I was watching an unboxing video on youtube for the 30th anniv pro edition bundle. This couple were proud owners and were so happy as they were unboxing. They were even dressed in their playstation tee shirt attire. I too was happy for them until the guy stated he had another one boxed and ready to be put on ebay. He claimed he tried to sell to friends at regular cost but nobody took him up on his offer. He stated he wasn't going to "go crazy" on the scalping. At that point I went from happy for them to just flat out disgusted.
Sony: scalpers?? You mean our partners cough cough
To be honest, I don't think this is out of the realm of posiblility. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if this transpires to be true.
Exactly
They got their money, but imagine how much MORE money they could have made if they increased the supply! They could have easily made triple or more money! But apparently FOMO trumps profits nowadays
How is making something exclusive benefits fans? If you make something cool people would love to buy, make sure the supply is enough for people to buy it without having to jump thorugh so many loops.
It doesn’t, the industry leaders gaslit the commoners into repeating the narrative that lines their pockets with gold.
To promote FOMO. They've enabled this, just like they did with the disc drives the moment they announced the ps5pro as digital only.
Worst than that, 2 months later, no PS5 Disk Units, 2 MONTHS! Sony is just kidding with their customers at this point
Same with the stick modules for the edge controller. You cannot release a console without a disc drive and a controller with swappable joystick modules and then not have a mass supply. There’s shouldn’t be an after market for this stuff at all.
They're deliberately trying to frustrate physical gamers.
You’re supposed to get PS+ Premium so that you can play some games over the Holidays, if you had a disc drive you can’t be forced in to the subscription in order to have a game to play.
Sony screwed up? Must be a day that ends with a Y.
…people saying to just not buy from Sony don’t seem to get that the scalpers still are. The company doesn’t care where money comes from. If they get money, that’s what matters. You’d have to go long enough to make scalpers stop too, and given that we are even having this conversation after how the ps5 was released, we clearly aren’t going to make that happen.
why would they care. long as someone is buying it at the price they set they don't care who gets it. makes the consoles look more popular and tricks people into thinking it's in high demand.
I'm actually a little upset that getting the controller by itself you DO NOT get the charging cable that makes it look like an old PS1 controller.
Sony coulda just put together a collection of the 30 best games no longer available and sold it cheap as a true thank you to fans and made a bunch more money.
If Sony cared about fans, they would make a fortune JUST making old games available to buy!
All but free money!
But they won't do that, because they have to force their latest Live Service drivel onto the community instead
Sony stopped caring about their fan base for a while now. Whether the fans, collectors or scalpers buy them, all they care about is how fast units sell.
Ahh... ps5 scalpers, takes me back. doubt it will end well for them this time around though.
If we're lucky the problem might solve itself this time around
@@dastvan8002 Assuming the current owners of the PS5 find no compulsion to pay more for a negligible upgrade
Only point in favor of this limited edition version, is because it's a PS5 pro _that comes with the disc drive!_ Sony cannot be trusted with digital, and has proven that in the past (and to me specifically). There's no reason to look at a $700 console that lacks support for physical media; especially if I can't jailbreak and run my own stuff on it right away.
I think that's just the cover for the disc drive you buy separately. The 30th anniversary slim is the same way. They give you a cover, but you still need to buy the disc drive
@Bowser1027 if that's accurate, that somehow makes the value proposition from Sony, even worse.
@ZeroHourProductions407 ya, i managed to get a 30th anniversary slim and bought a disc drive months ago to beat the shortage we all knew was going to happen, and the box just has a disc drive plate that matches the color of the console
Playstation don't care at all. At the end of the day theyre getting money for it. Keep in mind this is a company who banned their number 1 trophy hunter. They could not care less about their fanbase
Dont forget that SONY wants to enforce PSN network also on PC and wants MONOPOLY on media games and social interaction on a only SONY platform...Privacy will be death and also they want remove any ather company ofcourse in this system. + Not giving a crap about there number 1 thropy hunter fanboy. Its clear to me they got different plans i cant agree with so for me its very much goodbye SONY.
Easy solution: Market platforms like Ebay *ban* inflated prices for preordered items and recently released stuff. But of course they won't do that, because greed.
Why would eBay care even aside from profit it's not their job the only people who can stop scalpers if the consumer if you don't buy from them they will stop when. There is no money to be made what people don't seem to get is the guy buying the playstation for 3x the retail cost is just as guilty as the scalper and from the retailer it doesn't matter we set out to sale x number of a product at X price and as long as they sale we don't care
The disc drives are crazy too, since the pro doesn’t have one, in EU, NZ and AU they are non existent
Sony to their country of origin: we got you fam 😘
Sony to the rest of the world: 🖕
Why are people even buying the pro version?
My thoughts exactly
Brainwashing at it’s finest
that's the point, people aren't only scalpers are which will be a big problem for them later on, but scalpers are too stupid to realize that.
This is the best thing, if Sony doesn't want to grow its base then let the scalpers continue to flourish because they might buy the hardware, but they will not be buying the games or accessories or PSN pass etc.
Either upgrading from the base version or they don’t have a PS5 at all.
No wonder sony games don't sell. Nobody can play them when the consoles are collecting dust in the scalper's basement.
I have the original Playstation, the ps2, the ps3 and a ps4, but I haven´t bought a ps5, yet. I´m not sure if I should get one, I feel like I don´t need one.
I do too. Been playing since 1997 on all those consoles. Currently own the ps4 pro and I feel like not buying the ps5 since I dont need it. Still got a big library of games for ps4.
This is WHY when people asked me "if you love video games why did you wait 3 years after its release."
Honestly it wasn't ever in available to me until the supply chain and scalpers were solved.
Yeah, I understand anyone soured on Sony at this point. I got a PS5 without scalping nonsense (guess where I lived, scalpers aren't as active?) And I had a lot of games on it I enjoyed and played. But for most other people, it seems like ti was just a disaster.
Why would anyone pay £1000 for this???
I don't know when it started, I know I heard it first time that Blizzard did it, but I won't credit them for inventing it - it is that not releasing items "FULLY invented but in patches/parts" is coming true............. They don't release full potential phones/game consoles/MMO/RPG... they release HALF the potential, hide options that SHOULD'VE been there for their next "upgrade" and this should become an awareness.... and companies need to stop but why should they. It's easy to milk us.
The only thing you need to beat scalpers is patience.
"The two most powerful warriors are patience and time," - Leo Tolstoy
whoever dies during the waiting period is definitely not a winner
I've got a funny idea about why they might NOT have put the requirements in place in the USA. Is it possible that the laws here might accidently make it illegal? To require that you not JUST be a member, but also a member in good standing, defined by being active on such an such a day? In most states you can't be kept out of a store if they sell, they have to sell TO YOU, though members can be given a discount for being a member.
So... what's the fix?
2.300 ps5 pro’s is ridiculous. It’s like Sony wanted this on purpose to create hype and attention.
The sad truth is Sony would sell more PS5 Pro 30th Anniversary Edition from scalpers than actual fans and Sony knows this
It feels so sad to me to know the struggle I felt trying to buy a PS5 (same with Nintendo Switch in 2020) IS STILL GOING ON. Yong, never in my life had I ever had to *look* at a restock website, but these people had me *sign up and turn on notifications* I HAD TO TRY TO ORDER A PS5 WHILE AT WORK RINGING PEOPLE UP AT THE REGISTER AND STILL I WASN'T FAST ENOUGH BECAUSE SOMEONE BOUGHT THE PS5 I ALREADY HAD IN MY CART BECAUSE THEY CLEARED THE INVENTORY IN LESS THAN A MINUTE. THIS *SHOULD BE ILLEGAL* I get it that it's tempting, and I knew people who paid the bills by doing it but it doesn't make it OK or a valid business tactic it's the same thing that any other company who doesn't want you to resell you are buying something at full price then selling it for double or quadruple. This is the same thing as buying a tub of ice cream for $5 and charging $10 per scoop.
If I was you I would buy a mid tier Windows pc, sign up to Steam and let the console companies like Sony and Nintendo figure it out, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are supposed to come to us and ask us to buy their consoles, we shouldn't be the once to chase them begging for a video game console that is 2 or 4 times it's original price in our local shops, it's up to the likes of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to figure out how to get their products near us and at there original price.
@mesmorrow Oh been there done that I have my PS5 ,PC,and Nintendo. I just needed to relate by giving my experience and how sad it's still going.
@@dsouthmonster This is the first console generation I am skipping since the PS2. It's obvious that Sony doesn't give two damns about their customers and their policies/recent actions reflect that. The good news is that the only reason for buying consoles (exclusives) is disappearing since the games make their way to PC's eventually.
I'm still salty at how they treated the Vita lol
Sony emailed me in 2022 and gave me a chance to buy one on their website. Got mine easily no rush.
@zzygyy I got mine the same way Playstation Direct was very helpful. I like that they give you a place guaranteed in cue, and when it's time for you, you get a little bell. Lol
Sony should put the spooks into the scalper’s by announcing that they will manufacture millions more PS5 Pro’s 30th anniversary models. I’m sure the scalpers will be forced to sell them quickly and probably cheaper then they brought them for as it will be 2nd hand in the sense it won’t come with the store warranty!
lol, scalper still not losing money if they sell at msrp
I have over 5k invested into PlayStation with an account with just over 200 games and 40 platinums. Still have no
Reason to switch back from series x after almost three years.
You have a reason to play a series x?
Only reason to play a series X is for the backwards compatible games
They should say they have 12000, then when it's almost out of stock, reveal they have another 12000 and keep going. I mean do they legally have to state the exact amount they have manufactured?
i mean why are we blaming sony for people scalping? when the switch 2 comes out and its scalped to hell and back you better have the same energy
Sony was bricking PS5 consoles and allowing scalpers to purchase via multiple psn fake accounts… Sony forcing you buy limited disk drive separately is another shitty move… i am starting to see that digital future is pretty much renting of games no real ownership
Let them. No-one with brain cells cares about the Pro anyway so noone will buy it 😂
Scalpers suck BUT I don't blame them, I blame the buyers. They keep buying from scalpers and scalpers know it and thats why they do it. Customers have to stop buying from scalpers and eventually the scalpers will stop and move on to something else. STOP BUYING FROM SCALPERS AND KEEPING THEM IN BUSINESS!
Look at China. Lots of goods are scarce and that leads to rampant scalping. They can't just not buy from them, 100% of anything is scalped. The more communist it gets, the less goods are available
Not a surprise. Sony proves time and time again, they don't actually care.
Idk why you care, just buy the original ps5 and play. The world keeps spinning, the ps5 is gonna be tucked away in a dark corner regardless.
@@juls9796 It's almost like I think scalping is bad, and we should hold businesses to a higher standard. I'm never going to buy a PS5, I simply, do not need or want one. But, not only is scalping extremely scummy, it's unfair on PS fans and could bleed into other industries. The longer we allow scalping, the worse and more egregious it's going to get.
They do care. About scalpers, not you. If a scalper buys 10 units and a regular coatomer only buys one, then the scalper is worth 10x the amount of the normie to the company.
@@VaughanDavies Even if Sony asking you to provide SSN for verification, scalper will still found a way to fool the system. The only way to win a game against scalper is not selling stuff online, but that will cost a lot more money to distribute.
If you buy a ps5, not only that but a scalped and overpriced ps5, it is on you
I mean I was stoked on possibly buying the controller only.. but since i found out that the PS3”4 buttons fit the PS5 that don’t have color I’ll be making my own.. and there are shell swap kits that help.
This establishes a pattern. Same thing happening with the original PS5 launch. If you think the launch of PS5 Pro is a circus, bro, wait until PS6. Sony doesn't care.
But I'm a PC Gamer. I'll be sitting back watching in amusement.
same thing happened with wii
They could have taken the play time but thing a step further as well. Have 100 hours of various play time across multiple games and have a game trophy count say like 200 trophies associated with your account. Ain’t no scalper gonna do that for hundreds of accounts. And your account would need to be varified at checkout with Sony and psn. If it’s for the fans and people that have been around since the mid nineties playing the OG ps1 I think those are reasonable requirements since they are dead set on making so little.
As an old PlayStation supporter, I've had every single PlayStation console and I wanted this 30th anniversary edition so bad and then when I saw the prices on eBay and they were sold out on the Sony website PlayStation website I was very saddened and dejected and felt defeated because in my opinion Sony needed to win with all the bad drama that's been happening with Sony as far as bad publicity, in the end I just ended up getting me a regular PS5 pro The nostalgia for me with that color scheme would have been great for me but alas it looks like I'll never be able to own one....😒🤦😞
Why tf do u idolize consoles
Just get custom plates and skins
@subspacemissary Why are you triggered over someone that bought a PS5 Pro. You PC lames need to stop with all the crying.
The PS 5 problem was down to people paying more money for a console that had no games for it. That’s just dumb.
No console had proper games at launch
Ps3 in 2006 had nothing
Ps4 2013 had almost nothing too
@@JohnnyFish971 PS3 was launched in 2006... Launch games were Resistance: Fall of Man, Ridge Racer 7, Call of Duty 3, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7... What are you talking about? Yes, PS4 for the first 3 years of its life was just a Bloodborne box, but devs hit their stride after that. PS5, 4 years later, still doesn't have a system seller.
@@yeahright9014 damn i miss Resistance...but mustly sports games no? I mean real exclusives like Killzone and God of War
Also Ps5 launch in a Pandemic i blame it
PC gamer be like: PS has no game.
but they keep coping by asking sony to sell their PS game to PC
Its actually not financially smart to not make security measures either. The less the consoles get into the players hands, the less yearly/monthly subscriptions they sell. Let alone micro transactions. It affects sony and their purchased development companies.
I can't imagine anyone would buy the limited edition PS5pro as their first ever PSN tied console. Even without considering its meant to be a collector's item as well, that's alot of extra money to invest into a platform they'd be trying for their first time.
@MazeMaker4Life I'm speaking about Sony as a whole. With the initial release, it was the same problem. If they had already handled the issue back then, we wouldn't be in this problem right now. They would've had more subscriptions during relase had they handled the scalping situation better. And besides, your point still doesn't matter. They have to think that someone out there is gifting it to someone else, etc. Remember, these machines are selling at a loss, because they're so expensive to make. Their money comes from PSN.
We at Sony have heard your concerns and have decided to release 30th anniversary PS5 Pros. Only 500 will be available worldwide. Also you need an active annual PSN subscription (highest tier) to be eligible to purchase.
Happy Gaming!
Tldr stop bothering with sony and vote with your wallet. Go pc and never look back.
You’ll pay more, but this is the way. Once you experience pc gaming it really is the only way to game. I’ll take 1440 maxed with 144 fps vs the 4k 60fps they push on the consoles that 99% of the games can’t even take advantage of. It’s a joke
@ entry level rog ally is $300 now, steam deck is also accessible for about $500. A standard desktop/laptop is around $800. A quality one is around $1000-$1200. It’s still a cheaper threshold than the absolute travesty that is the sony console market. To add insult to injury there is no “additional” fee to use the only services outside of your standard telecom bill; what a concept I know.
If only Windows didn't suck. Steam OS the way to go but that takes effort
@@dave3269 while I 100% agree with you, I would still deal with that suck than Sony suck
Who cares about the PS5 Pro? My Walmart has had a case of them sitting since launch and I haven't seen one disappear. If your willing to pay scalper prices for a retro piece of plastic you're an idiot.
sad that you think Sony actually cares they got the money they wanted that's all that matters to the company.
I think they do care... To an extent
They'd much rather have you spend 1K on the console and 2K on buying games and accessories from them, instead of having you spend 3K on the console from a third party and nothing on games and accessories because you spent your entire entertainment budget
... But again, they probably don't realistically care *that* much. Otherwise they'd take measures to try to prevent this
Buy a mid tier Windows pc, sign up to Steam and let the console companies like Sony and Nintendo figure it out, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft are supposed to come to us and ask us to buy their consoles, we shouldn't be the once to chase them begging for a video game console that is 2 or 4 times it's original price in our local shops, it's up to the likes of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft to figure out how to get their products near us and at a reasonable original price.
If I remember correctly Sony starting bricking PS5 consoles during its launch they knew were purchased through scalpers.
Scalpers will stop when clowns stops buying from them
Scalpers deserve to be stuck with the PS5's they bought, not making a dime in profit.
I was annoyed I didn't get an Anniversary Edition PS5 Pro at first but then I realized it's just a PS5 Pro that's been painted battleship grey instead of white. That is literally the only difference. Ignore the scalpers and just buy the standard edition PS5 Pro.
Bluecry is for CP enthusiasts.
People never learn 😂 Just buy a PC people.
The bare minimum they could have done is strike a deal with retailers such as GameStop to exclusively sell the PS5 limited edition. The buyer would have to be forced to produce identification to show that they are buying one console and they cannot return to any other GameStop to buy another one because on file it is shown that they have already purchased one. Would have easily protected the consumers who want to get their hands on a limited edition console at retail price and it would have helped drive business for GameStop too. It's sad we live in a world where measures like this would even need to be considered.
I was literally in line to get 30th anniversary stuff on the site, but by the time I got in, the only thing I could get was a regular controller. I wanted the Dualsense Edge since I use that controller the most but didn't want a duplicate color. I also wanted a Portal since I use mine almost as much or more than my actual console and TV and would have sold mine for it.
Scalpers are literally ruining gaming for me in a big way. I've been playing video games for over 30 years and have owned every console for Xbox, PS, and Nintendo including all handhelds and Sega's Genesis console and Game Gear handheld. I used to love pre-ordering collector's editions from GameStop and highly anticipating the cool stuff that came with it. Now, I barely buy games anymore unless they are older games and never buy collector's editions anymore because I either can't get my hands on them in time or they are just awful. I feel like game companies don't even make the special editions worth it anymore in large part due to scalpers. Not even gonna mention how awful 2024 games have been. I've literally only bought 3 games that came out this year and 2 of them were annual sports games (the 3rd being the new Zelda game).
It’s funny how delusional these people are. Thousands for a reskin? Just wait till a company releases a do it yourself skin that copies this 😂 people who buy these consoles from scalpers….may survival of the fittest catch up to you
1:37 "It's a $999.99 bundle that justifies-" I'm gonna stop you right there, Yong. Nothing, I repeat, NOTHING justifies a $1000 price point for a mere cosmetic!
If valve can keep a "limited quantity" limited edition handheld in stock for DAYS, Sony can do the same thing.
I miss waiting outside GameStop in the early morning hours to get a new game or console. Online shopping has definitely impacted that experience.
Thank you for covering this, I had no idea it was still this bad. It is so silly how much sony is messing this up and I didn't know Valve did so much to prevent scalpers, It sounds like a really good idea to have ways to check accounts ain't scalpers or their bots.
Man, I gave up on Sony when the PS5 came out. I'm glad to see they are still living up to the low expectations.
I really don't think making more units is the answer here. Sony already sold these as a limited edition item. That was very explicitly a selling point for the bundle. Taking that away is probably some form of false marketing
Not making it explicitly limited edition in the first place though? That I can get behind
best way to stop scalping is to have better security on websites like one per customer rule.
Damn Yong getting more and more buff every video, I see you brother, never stop grinding
Need to bring back the email invitation shit.
Didn't Sony learn from the PS5 launch???
Not that I wanted the PS5 Pro anniversary edition.......... But people buying them all up to resell them at a profit is just wrong