"Whisper singers CAN'T SING!" - sound vs. skills

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  • @HegeOfficial
    @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +14

    Oopsie! At 2:54 I wrote "and musicality" cause I was saying "if they're gonna do runs". And you do need musicality to improvise and riff around on a song, but it looks like I'm saying you need musicality for vocal agility, and technically you don't :)

  • @carlosdasilva966
    @carlosdasilva966 2 роки тому +23

    I like whisper singing, but my favorite voice aspect is the belting, I Love a "bright and powerful" belts, Mariah belting is my favorite alongside Whitney and Kelly Clarkson.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +4

      I get you :) A good belt is sooo impressive.
      Personally, I can't decide on just one favorite vocal technique/sound.

  • @JenniferGlatzhofer
    @JenniferGlatzhofer 2 роки тому +4

    Great video with so much info!! Love these types of videos too 😊 and yes for talking about this, choosing to sing in a whisper like quality can change the way a song is perceived. It brings something else. I love when a singer picks and chooses what quality they want and where. If the whisper quality is a default then that’s a difference. It’s being aware of these different qualities I think is important 😊

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you!! :) I'm so glad you liked it. And that's so well put! I 100% agree.
      Thanks for watching, and have a great weekend!! :)

  • @jacobtaback5179
    @jacobtaback5179 2 роки тому +15

    your videos are the most well thought out, accurate, and non judgemental. I also agree that some of the best songs on earth are whisper rnb songs (like brandy, mariah, aaliyah, etc.) can you react to bliss and/or fourth of july by mariah carey? I think you would like those songs and they showcase amazing layering!!

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +2

      I appreciate this so much, it made my day ☺️ Thank you! And you got it, «layering» was all I needed to hear! I loooooove Mariah’s layering, and feel like that part of her talent doesn’t fet talked about enough. Thanks for the recommendation ☺️

    • @jacobtaback5179
      @jacobtaback5179 2 роки тому

      @@HegeOfficial of course, and I totally agree! She is an excellent songwriter and producer and I feel like a lot of people don't consider that when discussing her talent. excited to see your reactions :)

  • @wow4444
    @wow4444 2 роки тому +42

    Mariah Carey is just everything

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +14

      She really is. So it bothers me when people limit her (or other skilled singers) to only one thing or the other.

    • @wow4444
      @wow4444 2 роки тому +5

      @@HegeOfficial really agree she is so talented and she has a beautiful voice and dynamic singing technique

    • @carlosdasilva966
      @carlosdasilva966 2 роки тому +3

      @@HegeOfficial Mariah is just everything, True, but I love her Belts so dear much!! Is so freaking beautiful and powerful.

    • @Heroliesinyou
      @Heroliesinyou 2 роки тому +3

      @@HegeOfficial People saying Mariah Carey and Brandy are whisper singer like they can't sing is so amusing to me.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      @@Heroliesinyou it’s a wild logic indeed 😄 haha

  • @xejelah
    @xejelah Рік тому +3

    What's interesting with this is Jessica Simpson complained that her label didn't like the way she belted out her song in the 2000's - they wanted her to go in and 'whisper sing' it because they thought it made it easier for audiences to sing along. Meanwhile, Mariah Carey was saying she's always 'playing with her voice' and sound. She said she was singing softly and breathy because it required more control as a skill.

  • @miket3647
    @miket3647 2 роки тому +9

    I find when I "whisper sing" I have to concentrate on control a lot more, rather than when I belt a song with my true chest voice. I spent all last summer with my vocal coach trying to get rid of my natural distorted voice, because I wanted lighter songs to sound smoother (for want of a better word). By the end of it, I learned to love the fact I am quite distorted when I sing. I just realised I went completely off the point there. Sorry. My point is, I find I have to control more when I whisper sing. (maybe it's because I'm male... Maybe not, I don't know)

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +3

      That's interesting :) It can vary for different singers depending on what they're using their voice for the most.
      In my case, I used to have a really solid and good mix, because I did a lot of classical singing and got a good head voice. Then I lost my top range when I for years worked only with a band doing loud gigs with poor listening conditions, and didn't really work on my technique. So I had to work to get it back, and I'm still not where I was.
      I'm glad you've embraced your distortion - I like a distorted voice tbh :) as long as it's healthy, you're good.

    • @nickardomccrae1519
      @nickardomccrae1519 3 місяці тому

      Your voice sounds quite interesting. I would love to hear your naturally distorted doing belts. And as for whisper singing, I'm able to do it and I'm able to belt. However, the sound changes in my vocal range. For C2 - F#4 (sometimes G4) has mostly the same tone and A4 -G5 get more of a heady mix the more I go up my range.
      I'm a male and I'm likely not able to do what you can do with your voice. I struggle with adding distortion to my voice. I would like to be able to sing rock with a distorted sound but I'm not capable.
      Anyways, all this is to say that we all have a different sound and ways our voice allows us to sing. And I think I would like your sound.

  • @stanleyray
    @stanleyray 2 роки тому +5

    YES!! I've always said that just because a certain singer may not sound like someone like Whitney for example, it DOESN'T mean that they "can't sing". yes, she's the standard but that's still not fair to say that they "can't sing" just cause they don't sound like her cause everyone's voice is unique to them for a reason. I've always had a different ear in that way. theres alot of singers that most people say "can't sing" that I personally think CAN sing very well. very rarely have I heard a popular/mainstream singer who's voice I didn't like. VERY rarely. but I love this video and the entire breakdown. you're such a vibe😌💜🤞🏽

  • @robbpowell194
    @robbpowell194 2 роки тому +2

    Whoever defines the terms, controls the debate. I am glad that you are clarifying language. There is a French term that translates to something like " S/he who distinguishes well, Thinks Well". This is video is excellent. Of course, my favourite singer "whisper sings". Then he blows up the auditorium. This is great, Hege. And, that Thumbnail, though...⭐

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much ☺️ I’m glad you liked it. And thanks for noticing the thumbnail too, I’m always trying to improve these things, so it’s good to know when it hits. Haha I wonder who you’re talking about

    • @robbpowell194
      @robbpowell194 2 роки тому

      @@HegeOfficial You do, but you don't... 🇰🇿🙂

  • @clarenceandlilaw
    @clarenceandlilaw 2 роки тому +4

    All voices are unique. Your voice is art.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому

      Yes, all voices are unique :) But when it comes to singers, some work on their vocal technique and some don't, which ultimately leads to different skillsets and different qualities in the art they produce.

    • @resurrectionkratos
      @resurrectionkratos Рік тому

      amen

  • @christopherhamilton1291
    @christopherhamilton1291 2 роки тому +3

    You spoke hunni! I love the way you talk about music. Brandy is IT for me!

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you ☺️ I appreciate you. And Brandy is everything 🙌

  • @brettwarren9667
    @brettwarren9667 6 місяців тому +1

    The young women of today, our whisper singers… Generation ago, where the Mariah Carey and Brandy singers. They’re fading.

  • @conscienceetintuition9350
    @conscienceetintuition9350 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Hege, I have found your reaction deeply interesting and very instructive. As you said, whispery or airy singing is indeed a choice in particular for very very talented vocalists such as Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston as well as they could be more chesty. Two very good examples of what you demonstrated in your video are two Mariah Carey's songs : "Can't let go" and "Butterfly". In both songs, she used the whispery sound and the chesty one in order to embelish and emphasize certain parts of her songs which is so much difficult to replicate. As I often said, singing is not all about shouting or yelling words to prove to the world that the singer is the greatest of all time ! I will not mention any name in order to bash nobody because a lot of people try to convince themselves that their "idol" is the greatest of all : NO WAY ! And the final comment of my thought is the following one : one of the best if not the best example is Barbra Streisand's vocals. She is known for being called the "mother of divas" for a good reason. In all of her songs, she is able to transition from very soft to very powerful vocals without any tension or distorsion.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому

      So happy you found it interesting :). And yes, that's an important aspect of it too - choosing different sounds to emphasize different emotions or vibes even within a song. There really is a difference between singers who can change between these different qualities and those who are limited to just "one mode".
      Thank you so much for watching, and sharing your input. Have a good weekend! :)

  • @azarlane9553
    @azarlane9553 2 роки тому

    This reminds me…belting Musical Theatre and Operatic style singers like Al Jolson and Billy Murray used to critique the “Crooners” (in the 1920’s and 1930’s) for this same reason; they were annoyed with new crooners like Bing Crosby, because they believed crooners weren’t real singers. This is because the “belters” of that era did not utilize the microphone like the crooners did, who were using it more as an instrument instead of merely as a recording device. To give credit where credit is due, the “belters” trained their voices to be able to project and reach the back seats of any New York Theater WITHOUT the aid of the microphone. But they thought that that crooners were cheating when aided by the technology in a way that covered up for their flaws or what they perceived as a lack of vocal projection. Crooners revolutionized recorded singing with the close-up utilization of the Ribbon Microphone 100 years ago. This introduced an intimate singing style. Listen to this Bing Crosby “White Christmas” (1942 version). Very intimate and “whispery.”
    ua-cam.com/video/QQyy8SpDpTY/v-deo.html
    History repeats. If technology ever breaks down, the belters will be the kings and queens of the heap, again.

  • @ft.jackjimmy7282
    @ft.jackjimmy7282 11 місяців тому

    Whisper singing is a hard technique to master and very skilled singers that i love use them as well. However, my issue is singing the whole song in a whisper voice instead of having variations or switches throughout the song, making it more dynamic. I know they're a talented singer, but when the whole song is whisper, I feel nothing or could even make out the lyrics sometimes. Like i love My All by Mariah, first half is all whisper, then belting, then whisper again at the end. Same as Olivia Rodrigo being able to do a smooth transition in Driver license. My problem isn't with the skill, it's the choice of some artists to only having one vocal for the whole song. I get that it's the trend right now, some artists that don't have whisper vocals before are transitioning to full whisper cause of it, making a lot of new songs not my cup of tea.

    • @macavalli2619
      @macavalli2619 25 днів тому

      And now all thr music is whisper trash😢 TikTok ruined EVERYTHING

  • @jimgore1278
    @jimgore1278 Рік тому

    Tom Jones did an album years ago that was duets with some of the young pop singers who were popular at the time. The interesting thing was that the only one who could keep up with him was Steve Page from a band called The Barenaked Ladies, technique and volume. It was obvious the others had their mikes cranked up and autotune made its appearance. It really showed the difference in technical ability. Mind you, ability and technique aren't everything and there are many singers who aren't exactly adept but still make amazing music by recognizing and staying within their limits. I like singers and musicians - I should probably say singers and instrumentalists - who are all over the spectrum with respect to their abilities. There are also some artists - more in the realm of instrumentalists, but some singers as well - for whom technical ability is everything and they leave me cold. Musicality trumps technical know-how every time.

  • @ileanaroman3944
    @ileanaroman3944 2 роки тому +1

    I love whisper singers, that's remind me when my mom sing lullaby . Thank you for yours comment.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      I like the sound of it too :) Different vibes for different moods - there's room for both whisper singing and belting.
      Thank you for watching

  • @michaelreyes2630
    @michaelreyes2630 Місяць тому

    I really like whisper singing to an extent. I just really hate how nowadays there’s a big uprise in softer whispery singing throughout the whole track. I think that’s why I love older music more, each song has dynamic range. Like Mariah for example, she tells a story not only through her insane lyricism, but also how she knows when and when not to sing softer/belty.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  Місяць тому +1

      @@michaelreyes2630 That's a very good point about dynamics. I hadn't thought about that! Sure a "flat" sounding production is a choice too and great for its purpose, but when the majority of charting pop songs sound like that it does indeed get boring.

  • @namir4113
    @namir4113 2 роки тому +1

    Whispering singing it’s a lot harder because you need to have powerful control

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому

      This depends on the singer and the composition, as well as even what you deem yo be called “whisper singing”. But generally yes, many singers struggle more to control a light and airy note because they can’t support correctly to hold back the air flow.

  • @maryammure5151
    @maryammure5151 2 роки тому +6

    Mariah is the best singer. Whisper singer. She's just the best. She can sing the damn phone book and it will be amazing. Lol

  • @musicluver94293
    @musicluver94293 2 роки тому +10

    Mariah Carey IS THE GREATEST FEMALE VOCALIST EVER 👑💯 FRFR!!!!!! Her voice is the platinum standard apex for ALL TYPES of Vocals. Belts, Whisper,riffs, runs, low notes, melissma, high notes, head, chest, throat, church, pop, r&b, country, soul, hip hop etc etc etc incomprable 👑

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 Рік тому

      mariah couldnt hold whitney or adeles panties. or arethas.

  • @mr1d44ever2
    @mr1d44ever2 2 роки тому

    Dimash starts most of his recent songs with aspirate singing as he likes to build up to a crescendo...and decrescendo. Of course, he has trained himself to do whatever he wants with his voice to accentuate a song. In his case, it's a chosen sound.

  • @subliminalstealthhh
    @subliminalstealthhh 2 роки тому +3

    Can whisper singers have good high belts??

    • @johnlaseter2453
      @johnlaseter2453 2 роки тому +1

      I would say yes, for the most part. Some may not. The degree of control needed to sing breathy, whisper notes properly is pretty amazing.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +3

      I guess that depends on who you'd define as a whisper singer :) My point in the video is that the term is being used for both technically proficient and technically limited singers. So in the case of f.ex. Mariah Carey and Brandy - who I've seen called whisper singers - they definitely can both belt. But some singers, like Selena Gomez, I don't think I've ever heard try, so I couldn't say. All singers can work on getting there though.
      But ofc, what someone deems as a good belt can be subjective as people focus on different qualities of a belt - like tone/timbre or resonnance, fullness etc. To use Brandy as an example again, I know some people don't like how light/bright her belts sound, some don't like the nasal quality of her belts and some don't like her (lack of) resonnance in her higher belts.

  • @KevinPlaysGuitar
    @KevinPlaysGuitar 2 роки тому +1

    I just learned something new today all thanks to you! 😀 Pretty interesting stuff!

  • @Theohybrid
    @Theohybrid 2 роки тому

    I think it has to do with cultural singing gimmicks vs singing vocal capacity so there's the criticism.
    It works overall and tastes but people get criticized because they go for it because it's safe.
    This stems from another place that these same issue that some people get by not due to variable talent and its permissible and there are those who have more capability but are ignored due to aspects outside of their control.
    It's one thing to have a style but gimmicks and getting away with it...I can understand why people criticize it; and why artists who can do Churchy vocals go Whisper is criticized because they sre essentially 'going mainstream' or 'selling out'.
    Everyone has tastes but that's not what the discourse appears to be targeting. It's singing and diversity. It's criticizing the status quo in the music industry that claims there's direct correlation to skill and profit when instead it's revealed to be marketability.

  • @alexcpedals
    @alexcpedals 11 місяців тому

    Whisper singing is a tone like any other but if you're limited to just thats or the majority of your songs use that technique it becomes boring really fast, at least for me.
    So many jumped on the bandwagon and then it became a cliche, fast.
    Everyone gets bored with it, the mileage is run out and the music industry finds another style to sqeeze the life out of it.
    Rinse, repeat.

  • @johnlaseter2453
    @johnlaseter2453 2 роки тому +1

    Very well reasoned. Thank you.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +2

      So glad you think so :) Thank you for watching!

  • @ismaelm.mbaangue9147
    @ismaelm.mbaangue9147 2 роки тому +2

    Well explained!!!🙌❤

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you think so :) Thank you!!

  • @TheBrandonRay
    @TheBrandonRay 2 роки тому +2

    And there’s some belters that also aren’t skillful. They just yell.

  • @GodivaK
    @GodivaK 2 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @Sam-cq9us
    @Sam-cq9us Рік тому

    like dream pop?

  • @MyiaLaShaun
    @MyiaLaShaun 2 роки тому

    Brandy didn't whisper. She sings.

  • @melindaderocker6619
    @melindaderocker6619 Рік тому

    Where did you come up with the "church" idea? Weird.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  Рік тому +2

      I didn't. It's used by many, and refers to singers whose sound and musical expression is heavily gospel influenced, like f.ex. Jennifer Hudson.

    • @hbdhbd6611
      @hbdhbd6611 7 місяців тому

      R&B has *heavy gospel roots* … highly suggest doing more research on the origins of the genre.

  • @lilyrobert2224
    @lilyrobert2224 2 роки тому +2

    No hate, but I find the singers who mainly use "whisper singing" have an advantage over other singers who are more technical and have a wider range. Look at Billie Eilish sweeping over Ariana Grande at the Grammys. Billie's songs and looks are perceived as more "cool" even though her vocal range is limited.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      That’s interesting! I haven’t thought about it that way, but I’ll look into it.
      Idk if Billie is limited to that vocal style, but I do think there’s room for any artist that’s able to move someone in some type of way with their art. I just wish people would recognize what’s what when they throw out arguments in stan wars online. And Ariana served that year and definitely deserved a win, but when it comes to award shows I feel like there are other forces at play anyway.
      Thanks for your input :)

  • @bertjones3010
    @bertjones3010 2 роки тому

    Floor Jansen.

  • @JaneDoe-qp7es
    @JaneDoe-qp7es 9 місяців тому

    You look like Billie eilish

  • @uncledeadhead3674
    @uncledeadhead3674 Рік тому

    agree tio disagree, someone like billie eilish who cannot sing church or anything regarding volume or tone. she can only use spoken word whisper singing. i can teach any kid off the street to whisper sing in maybe 2 weeks, i sure cant do that with actual singing.

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  Рік тому

      That doesn’t sound like you’re disagreeing with me regarding difficulty level tho..

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 Рік тому

      @@HegeOfficial i guess the big disagreement would be , while a great vocalist could use whisper singing here and there, as another tool in their arsenal, they dont JUST whisper sing, like say billie eilish, or the like. They cannot sing when not whisper singing, which i refer to as spoken word , not singing. Its like whisper singing is someone saying, " if you cant hear me sing, then i cant be singing badly" SO i guess its like a baseball pitcher, whisper singing is a straight slow pitch , anyone can throw it, some can throw it really well, but the real pitchers, also throw, a curveball, a slider, a knuckleball, a fastball etc.If i could put out a bumper sticker, it would say, "if you cant sing, just whisper!,"

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  Рік тому

      I understand your point, what I don’t see is how you think I’m disagreeing with you in this video? Cause I’m very well aware of the technical differences, and the point I’m making in the video is not that whisper singers can sing, but that there are singers deemed «whisper singers» who actually can.

    • @uncledeadhead3674
      @uncledeadhead3674 Рік тому

      @@HegeOfficial then i missed that and my apologies, we agree.

  • @fionnafineas423
    @fionnafineas423 Рік тому +1

    So where does Billy Eilish come into this "whisper singer" category. I feel like she is the top artists right now who has that haunting dynamic with a breathy singing.

  • @gensanx6697
    @gensanx6697 2 роки тому

    I would like you to react to kelis. Oxox

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +1

      ooh :) nice recommendation! Do you have any specific performance in mind? Thank you

    • @gensanx6697
      @gensanx6697 2 роки тому

      @@HegeOfficial maybe this one ua-cam.com/video/scs_VUMYZOs/v-deo.html

  • @Conejo147
    @Conejo147 Рік тому

    Céline Dion, Mariah Carey, and Whitney Houston are the best. No woman singer today can come close. I find that annoying.... I'm sure there is some unknown person out there with just as much talent who isn't being noticed for one reason or another...

  • @namir4113
    @namir4113 2 роки тому +1

    There is no such a thing as whisper singer you supposed to have all of it to be a complete singer

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +2

      And here we’re discussing what it is and why people are called whisper singers, not defending the term.

  • @promisesmithee943
    @promisesmithee943 2 роки тому

    brandy and mariah are great whisper singers, selena is not

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому

      Yeah, my point here tho is that neither Mariah nor Brandy are "only" whisper singers and that singers aren't necessarily limited to what you hear on their records.

  • @wow4444
    @wow4444 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah I am first like

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  2 роки тому +3

      Haha thank you!! :) I appreciate that

  • @Yourbeautiful666
    @Yourbeautiful666 20 годин тому

    Whisper singing is bad

    • @HegeOfficial
      @HegeOfficial  15 годин тому

      @@Yourbeautiful666 Even as a part of a song? Like f.ex. in the intro of "When you believe" by Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston? Both singers who we know can belt and carry big songs. Is it still "bad" to you when they use "whisper singing" as an effect? Cause in this video we talk about that difference too, stylistic choices vs skills. The whole point is that not all whisper singing is the same.