Respect the hell out of any company willing to actually end their series. The older I get the more I appreciate endings rather than franchises continuing forever.
Yeah unlike a certain "assassin's something" franchise which keeps milking their title after the main story had already ended instead of creating new games.
That's becoming a bigger and bigger challenge with each new game. Ending a series is arguably the hardest thing to do, especially if it's been running for 2 decades.
@@arclight7892 funny enough if Assassin’s creed was just a historical fiction version of Final Fantasy and didn’t have the modern day crap connecting them together I’d be fine with it going forever since each game would be a self contained story
So same result in that plot points get repurposed for Calvard and next arc but we end up losing one party and a more thoughout exploration of one country. Yeah they already have a lot on their plate so having another full party of characters to keep up when they actually get to the finale would make things hard.
as someone still early into the trails series, i'm just enjoying the ride. i've finished the sky and crossbell games and will be starting cold steel soon.
Hey Dom, great minds really do think alike! LOL, I do think that they're going to wrap up the entire Zemurian Saga with the next arc, but Trails won't really end, it will just migrate over to a different continent and start anew. Great video my friend!
I mean, it's probably better that the series end when the creators are satisfied rather than them feeling forced to continue it beyond it's natural end point. Most people can probably think of at least a few TV shows that lasted way too long and descended into mediocrity. One thing I think should be noted is that Falcom could return to Zemuria sometime in the future if they so desire. The world is developed and maybe they could jump back in with other eras in the continent's future or even past. And, if the Sky remakes do well, there could be remakes of the Crossbell games to bring them up to the standards of Cold Steel and beyond just like the Sky remakes will do for those games. But, in any case, Falcom has earned my trust. Though I love the Trails games, I am interested in seeing what they do with Legend of Heroes games after Trails.
Yeah I would love to see some smaller scale arcs set in places like Remiferia, you could also do prequels that explore lore events like the war of the lions or the cult takedown.
This could be a very weird idea, but IF they do it right with the Tokyo Xanadu series, there is some possibility. We all know there are ports that connect "normal" Tokyo to several Eclipses. We have also seen that not every Eclipse is formed by a Greed (or dungeon master if you like). Could it be possible to find another gate/port somewhere in the Eclipse that does not lead back to Tokyo, but to a whole alternate reality? A reality that has a continent called Zemuria? Just some weird thinking of me, but you could link these games together and have episodes that play in "normal" Tokyo, but also somewhere on the Zemurian continent? It would be interesting to see what happens if these two worlds connect with an Eclipse as a kind of "bridge". What would Ouroborous do with that knowledge? Cough... Yeah - Not likely. Anyway - Just ignore my rambling. It's good to see that the Trails series will not go on indefinitely. Somtimes enough is enough...
Kinda reminds me of how when Eiichiro Oda, creator of One Piece, gets asked when OP ends and he always says "in about 5 years". He said this for the past 10 years or so.
@@Moody.Smiruai And the funny thing is Elbaph was never actually planned. It was originally planned to just go to the last main arcs but then Oda changed the plan and decided to go to Elbaph after all.
@@SUPERVEGETTO92 Nope, Oda has recently confirmed that he initally had no plans for Elbaph. Contrary to popular belief Oda does not meticulously plan out everything years in advance. He does plan some things out but mostly he goes "What would the characters do in this situation" and goes with the flow.
@MrFutago87 You gotta source for that, I follow a lot of One Piece sources and none of them explicitly said that Oda never had plans for Elbaf until recently.
I prefer a series with a great ending to one that is stretched infinitely. I also can't wait to see what Falcom will come up with next with a blank slate to work with.
Personally, I interpreted Kondo's statement in regards to the post-calvard arc being the last as a statement of intent, and not much more. Like you said, plans can quite easily change. That said, if a certain overarching series of plot points, which is present in each arc (unless DB2/Kai prove me wrong), is utilised in either the Calvard arc OR the arc after it *in the same way as Cold Steel did*, I can believe it. As it's that series of plot points that to me defines the overall trails progress, at least until proven otherwise.
My heart says no, but my mind says yes. By that i mean that the history alredy walked the walk. If they start a new saga and start small again before we go to the world changing events i think it will be good for them. I mean, they know how to write stories, doesn't necesary needs to be this one. And we can learn to love the new world!
After the "series finale/story conclusion", my dream is that Falcom *CONTINUES to do more Trails games* in the form of *standalone prequels* to older events in the Trails lore that are still a mystery (like *"The Great Collapse"* incident, *"The Salt Pale"* incident, *"D.G. Cult"* era, *"War of the Lions"* era, or even *"Swin & Nadia"* origins story before their appearance in Reverie). I REALLY think there is potential in revisiting those old events and seeing how things like *"Kea's birth"* or *"Celeste D. Auslese" recording* that was shown in Sky 3rd actually happened.
That's actually a pretty good idea, at the very least it gives them a nice way to keep the series relevant while they work on a more substantial next move.
@@TheRealMaruki Yes, but it is NOT in a "video game" format. I'd rather "experience" their story firsthand than "read" it through an in-game novel IMO.
Personally, I think it would be a very good thing for Trails to wrap up and migrate to a new universe/timeline/period/whatever. I really like Trails' gameplay, world-building, and many of their characters, but the longer the series has gone on the more tortured the plot has become to accommodate the huge number of characters, mysteries, and major events that occur when you make a JRPG series >13 games long. I think a little bit of freedom would do their turn-based team a lot of good, and if they wanted their new series to also be interconnected, I'm sure we could get invested in the new setting as well.
The only thing I believe out of kondo mouth is that we will go to leman/arteria next. He mentioned those places the most in the last 5 or so years. If leman/arteria is the final arc and dealing with and understanding the church I’ll be okay with it.
I still think it's gonna be a solid two arcs when I consider what we haven't covered yet, but knowing Kondo anything could happen so we'll just have to wait and see.
The problem is that every arc introduces new characters and locations which leads to new mysteries needing to be answered. With those new mysteries, we get more plot lines that have to be tied up. Story and character bloat is one of the biggest issues in Trails right now.
I think we are very close to the end of the Trails series. The last arc however will definitely be much bigger than all the other arcs. I still think we could see more spin offs like having a game in the holy city of Arteria or a Ouroborus spin off game, that would be so AMAZING!
That‘s a very cool idea! I‘d also be interested in having one game per country to catch up and setting up the serie’s finale with the final one bringing all of them together (Maybe that‘s already happened, I‘m still in the first 40% of the games)
I have the thought, that we get only so many games as long as they make at least SOMEWHAT of money. Faster Translation, new engine(s), bad sales in jp, Corona - the last years must have been really really rough as well as for falcom. So it's only natural that they cut the fat and try to get at least to a somehow pleasing finale of Ys as well as Trails. And I think after that, that will be it.
While I'd be sad about it coming to an end, I also think it would make sense. It's daunting if you're a newcomer and feel that you have to play all the games. Cold Steel was my first, and I managed to play Sky in between finishing CS3 and waiting for CS4 and was still missing context because Zero/Azure wasn't translated yet, and now I have Daybreak 1&2 on my to-do-list because I just finished Reverie. Even though you _can_ skip games/arcs, it really feels like you're missing important context, and so any newcomer kinda has to commit to playing 13+ games to get it all. I think it's time to clear the slate and build something new.
personally i want it to continue because i love trails but what u said is true i got 2 of my friends to play they loved the first one but they asked me how many more do they have to play and well i tried explaining how long and the amount of games they would have to play to even catch up to where i am theyre just not sold uk like it just takes alot of time and i get it
Huh? So the solution to draw new fans in is to... end the series? Not a soft reboot, not trusting that the series is good enough to play fully? This comment section is full of cope.
@@Synthpopper I feel like you're being unreasonably disingenuous. Soft reboots clearly do not work in the current ecosystem, because the loudest partition of the fan base will insist that newcomers should not play it even if it _is_ a valid starting point. I think what OP is suggesting is that there will eventually be an inflection point at which continuing the series has diminishing returns. The series's gimmick is that each game coexists in the same world, and that gimmick will mean less the longer the series gets because fewer people will have the realistic chance to see it through to the end even if they _do_ trust that the series is good enough to play fully. For a personal example, I have obsessed over this series close to nonstop over the last 4 years, yet I've only played 7 of the 13 and counting games. I wholeheartedly intend to play every Trails game-maybe even every modern Falcom game-but I also don't want to rush it like some people do and blitz each entry back-to-back. Your comment leads me to believe that you are not a Trails fan or you're trolling, but let me know if neither of those is true and you have some other goal in mind.
@@SynthpopperStarting a brand new sub-series within Legend of Heroes of course. That's what they did when they started the Kiseki/Trails series after the Gagharv Trilogy which came after the Dragon Slayer duology (though the part where LoH is itself a spin-off of Dragon Slayer is no longer relevant)
Almost finished with Reverie. Pretty sad the Erebonia arc is about to end for me. I really enjoyed all these characters quite a bit. I don't see how the Calvard arc can top such a great cast. I am of course willing to give them a chance but I would be shocked if that cast could outdo this one. Daybreak is next for me. Finally caught up.
You know, I've started the entire Trails series 3 years ago. Officially caught up as a month ago. Every time i say they can't outdo the previous games or characters....they do lol.
Well I very much look forward to it then. I am (literally right now) playing the final boss on NM for Reverie as I am anal about having to platinum everything before I move on. I did see a short cutscene of Grim Cat and she was adorable so hopefully there are others like her in the game as well.
I’d like to see a time skip, so we can see how the younger characters are as adults - my theory is they will do Cold Steel 4s method of bringing all the casts together, but writ large on a bigger scale across the final arc.
The Trails sub-series might end in the near future, but that does not mean The Legend of Heroes meta-series is ending. After all, Trails (which has 13 main line games as of Kai no Kiseki) is "only" the 3rd sub-series of The Legend of Heroes, the first being the Dragon Slayer sub-series (which had 2 games) and the second being the Gagharv trilogy. In a way, I am kinda looking forward to the next sub-series of the Legend of Heroes.
From what I understand, Kuro did some massive damage to the series as a whole in Japan, and I think Kondo's saying what he's saying to try to rebuild hype over there. "Hey guys, it's ending soon! You don't want all that invested time to go to waste and not see the ending, right!?" type of deal.
It's not really Kuro itself but more the lack of direction/endless stalling it had since Kuro 2 (it's almost like Falcom were literally saying to the players "we never planned anything more than selling Kiseki games"), you can ask japanese people and they'll say Kuro 1 was still pretty good (even if a bit too much on the easy side and with an unclear/not really well designed UI), what killed the goodwill of japanese fans was the endless padding and how nothing big happened in the games until reaching certain points (usually the intermission/last chapter), unfortunatly Kai did the same as Kuro 2, thankfully it is written a bit better but overall Kuro 2 flaws are all over Kai as well that the general consensus would be that "Kai should've been Kuro 2", combine that plus the fact that Falcom dgaf about the Garghav Trilogy anymore so they let some Chinese publisher rewrite it completely as a mobile game and yep, they basically asked for it, you can see on twitter how they end up being spammed with people saying that the legacy of the starter LoH trilogy should be protected at all cost. A lot of japanese fans were so upset with Kai they review bombed the game on Amazon, to make it clear japanese people were already feeling tired of Kiseki games after CS3 (where the sales initially started to drop), to them Sen no Kiseki (Cold Steel) was great but a bit too long for what it really offered (and i kinda agree with them in a way). But yeah, i agree Kondo is certainly trying to hype up the fans so that they'll feel obligated to purchase the "last game", even if it end up being untrue later, he loves playing dirty after all.
I'm fine with the series ending sooner rather than later. It's gone on long enough that enough clues to its biggest mysteries have been dropped, such that when they're finally revealed they're in danger of being underwhelming. (We've all guessed who the First Anguis is by now, right?) And the longer they drag the series out, the more underwhelming the reveals will be, so yeah, hurry up and show us Dorothy is the Grandmaster of Ourobouros already. My only worry is that whichever arc is the last, it'll introduce a new set of characters that we won't have time to get to know and love before the whole series wraps up. I'm only up to Daybreak I, and I don't feel like I've truly gotten know this bunch yet (especially since some were introduced so late into the game). It doesn't feel like the great mysteries of Zemuria are ready to be revealed yet, especially since the massive cast of every previous arc needs to be there when it is. Cold Steel definitely felt like it dragged on too long at 4 games, even though it brought back the Liberl and Crossbell casts. Maybe 2 games is enough to tell a complete, satisfying story with a new cast - Sky FC/SC and Zero/Azure wrapped up quite nicely. And then just 1 more game to bring back old characters and tackle the metaplot? Or maybe you need 2 games after all, since there are even more returning characters now? Anyway, I hope with all this shuffling of their plans around, Falcom gives us a well-paced and -structured climax to the Trails saga.
I‘ve finished Trails from Zero four hours ago and immediatly started with Azure. After powering through the first four games (and finishing Cold Steel 1 before going back), I‘m in love with the characters and the general vibe. But at some point the story should end. I‘m all for making another 3-5 games but without an epic finale the whole saga will become a daily soap.
Its similar to One Piece where of course a lot of the plot and ideas are planned but when actually explored , they may want to expand on them more , hence whats important is the number of arcs left , not the time. It could increase.
With 3 years at the least -- more likely 5 years since they won't be year after year -- to remake Sky, plus likely remaking Zero & Azure, too, then I'm certain we'll see the 30th anniversary with the franchise still running, albeit we'll likely be at the tail end if not the final game that year assuming there's 4-5 games for the final arc. Excited either way tho. Just beat Sky FC the other night and can't wait to play the rest.
Maybe they can start a long running series in a different world again lol. Though doing that sounds like a hassle, when so much worldbuilding has already been put in the trails series.
I stand by my previous comment on another video. Final arc consists of 3 games set up, climax, wrap up. Then an epilogue victory lap game, then we'll see spin off game more isolated stories told in different countries
I'm guessing there is likely one more arc left after Calvard. The final Arc will be 4 games, much like Cold Steel was, then we will get one, if not two, games to wrap everything up, much like Reverie did with the first "half" of the series. I could see the first "wrap up" game covering Calvard and the last arc, while the second and final game wraps the entire saga up on one grand scale. If I'm thinking about this correctly, that would put the series as a whole at 19 games, which would kind of hurt if we didn't get to 20 haha. I'm going to be sad when it's over, but it will also be somewhat relieving. We will have nearly 20 games in one of the greatest series ever made. Throw in the Sky remake and hopefully the subsequent SC and 3rd remakes, and we will have the entire saga accessible on modern platforms outside of just PC.
Without mentioning any specific/spoilers, Kai answers some of Zemuria's biggest mysteries/lores. I really hope they would make at least 2 more arcs, one in far east/Elsaim or Valis and final arc in Arteria and Leman.
Kudos if they do end the series. But I have full confidence in whatever Falcom decides to do next. Maybe they can turn Tokyo Xanadu into their next main franchise along YS. Or maybe something completely different. In any case, I'll be right there to check it out.
I don't mind that is reaching close to it's conclusion. It has to end in some point. And plenty people are getting impatient or frustrated with those cliffhanger endings, while they want to see the series reach it's climax asap. Still, I had tons of fun playing these games ever since Sky back in the day. Some games were worse than others, but I still had fun at the end of the day.
Honestly, I feel like we're going to have one more arc and a final game to cap it off. Kondo wants to wrap up the series until 2030, and there's bound to be at least one break between Trails releases. Considering that, there's four games left at most, which is most likely Kai 2 + new arc (2 games) + finale. I can't see them releasing a new arc so soon, and 2025 has to be their promised two-game year (Trails and Tokyo Xanadu 2, remakes do not count). Making the final arc only two games long would also be very un-Trails-like. Anyway, we'll know it for sure this December.
Considering if they really want to do another arc, that would have to mean trying to one up everything you’ve upgraded in both gameplay, combat, & graphics. I don’t think they’ll have the money to truly keep progressing further. There will always be a limit of what they can achieve within multiple games alone in their own budget.
I'm inclined to agree: there's no way they'd kill their cash cow series so soon. Falcom can project when they think the series will end, and simply move that target time and time again.
@@florac1995 how is cash decreasing? they amount of sales each year has been increasing. week 1 japan sales doesn't mean anything, considering it released the same week as a zelda game. new ip will definitely get less sales, and cost significantly more...
I think Final Fantasy isn't a particularly good example, and I'd struggle to find a good example regardless. The manner in which the last Trails game is handled is way more significant than the manner in which the last game of a typical JRPG series is handled because Trails's ending will have implications for the entire series, whereas, say, Final Fantasy 9 being the last Final Fantasy game doesn't change anything about the importance or canon of Final Fantasy 7. No matter how you slice it, the ending of Trails will be a huge deal and a lot of fans will be pissed off by how it ends, whether it's too soon, overdue, or otherwise dissatisfying to them. FF and other series are way more malleable than Trails as a concept could ever be.
Where could the Last Arc take Place? Even more in the East of Zemuria? Where the Kruga Live? Will we ever see Remiferia or North Ambria in a Main Game?
A Leman estate+Arteria arc is how I could see them ending it. Since the Church is the 2nd biggest loreman faction after Ouroboros and Leman is home base to a lot of important organizations like the guild and Epstein foundation.
It's okay for Trails to end. Keeping it going indefinitely would eventually just suck the life out of it. I just hope they give it a strong and satisfying finale. DON'T RUSH IT KONDO! I would also love to see Falcolm do a brand new Legend of Heroes story :)
Dream timeline we get remakes of everything until crossbell That’s about it I feel everything else is a toss up end the series if you want to start with something fresh to wrap up the gen
I think believing anything Kondo says with regards to number of games left is always a bit of a gamble I agree. Didn't he say after Cold Steel 4 that they'd never do an arc with 4 games again, only for Calvard to turn out to be... 4 games again 😂
While logically i think that they will eventually end this series, by revenue Trails series is they most profitable source of income by very far, they other projects dont come any close, so from buisness perspective i realy doubt that they will stop this IP in near future. Especially now, when they doesnt have alternatives.
As much as I love Trails, I have always been a firm believer that every story has to have an ending, lest it go on and on and people lose interest. But… I wouldn’t mind if the end is still years down the road. I just introduced my brother to the series with Trails In the Sky. We’re playing it together and he’s already enjoying it even though long RPGs aren’t his usual game genre. We can’t play for hours every day because of real life, so I need a few years to catch him up in the series. :)
they should have a solid fanchise before ending trails series, so the company wont suffer from making new IPs an example is how atlus ensured persona success after persona 5 to allow themselves making metphor re fantazio and for trails if its ended they can keep using It and its success to try new ideas like strategy JRPG Action JRPG
I don't believe a single thing Kondo says at this point. 90% mah ass 🤣 I'm both sad and happy that Trails will come to an end in the near future though. It's bittersweet. I wouldn't mind the main story being complete after the next arc, but I'd love for more Trails-related games and more specifics on some characters and locations. Hell, a prequel going over the events of the War of the Lions would be awesome. Getting to play as Lianne, Roselia, the original Divine Knights & their awakeners, etc. Either way, I'll always follow Falcom for whatever they want to make next. I do hope they keep the turn-base for their next new IP, while retaining Ys & Xanadu for their action RPG genre. We'll see what happens. I am among the few here in the West that has played and completed Kai No Kiseki (got my plat in it too), and I am soooo ready for the next game.
It's like one piece, it's gonna end of course, the authors probably know how would it end, but as creators as long as there is the means (the business aspect of it) there will always the desire to add more because your art is your baby. Take the estimates with a mountain of salt.
I think they might’ve also looked at different ways to tell a story. Instead of following the standard new arc formula, they might be working on a more condensed, but still impactful, sequence of events, especially since so many things have already been introduced. Kinda like how Hajimari started a new format. I could also see them having one ‘arc’ and then… ending games that aren’t part of that arc, but still exist. They also could’ve decided to just cut things and put them in a different form of media (mobile game, anime, manga, light novel, etc.,)
People are focusing too much on "just one arc", when what matters is "how many games?" The series is ending, no spoilers, but Kai has practically paved the way for it. How many games and how many years it will take, we don't know. But we are at the endgame. Using the sales as an argument is dumb, when PlayStation in general is selling poorly in Japan.
Kondo said before that he doesn't intend an arc to be as long as Cold Steel, which would suggest 3 games max. Yet, Calvard looks like it'll be going beyond 3, that's already an inconsistency. As for the sales, it doesn't matter if the PS crowd is slowing down. It was still below expectation and a massive drop on previous years. A lot of Japanese fans are losing interest in Trails, you just need to look at their issues with Kai to see that.
@@Sortyourselfout-cu7en It's not inconsistency, it's just marketing. Percentages and things like that are all about generating attention and it ALWAYS works. How many videos and posts have we seen about this same subject over the years, it always works. Of course that doesn't reflect on sales in Japan, but it works here.
@ladinokrow it's not working though, Japans sales reflect that. The series has stagnated at 50000 units for each new release. And even then, that's still not the point of the video. If Kondo keeps making little porkies like this, then people will just not even bother listening eventually. The boy who cried wolf.
Wow. Pelvic Gaming is right. The Trails series really is the "One Piece" of JRPGs. The creator even changes his mind regarding when the series will end, just like One Piece's creator.
The Trails ends, the Legend of Heroes continues. Will it be like in the 80's individual games not related to each other? or like the 90's, it will be a trilogy? whatever the case, this saga will end and The Legend of Heroes will take a new form.
Funny enough, the thing that made me question the progression of the timeline was them pushing out Nayuta with the expectation that we needed to know about that game's story in preparation for Daybreak or at least Kai. Based off this the Western release was last year, to foreshadow events for a game that is coming out for Western audiences next year, or we as a player are supposed to factor in that story into Daybreak. The only connecting tissues I saw where the AI looking like fairies and that the Geneses were based off pocket watches, and by extension gears.
@jgswweet you have no idea what i a person can rightfully or wrongfully infer from your statement. You and will never interact again. Good riddance to you.
Hooray, the Kiseki nut has joined the, "Kai no Kiseki Western Release by the end of 2025 Club." To be fair, I'm so cynical on Kondo's "Trails is X% complete," or "We only have X number of arcs or X number of games left," even if Kondo woke up tomorrow and said, "The final game in Trails will be releasing on X month, X day, 20XX", I still would not believe him xD
From all the promo material, kai no kiseki feels like what hajimari was for the previous arc. My copy hasnt arrived yet so i dunno if that is true. Yea the end of the series is the end of the series. Before that is completely unfinished.
Localizing before a script is final means that it is possible that we are getting an unfinished version of certain parts, so...yey? Like, I get the desire to play games sooner rather than later, but I keep hearing celebrations for corners that are badly cut to make that happen and I can't personally get behind swapping out a temporary bad thing for a potentially permanent bad thing.(Since games can always be translated later, but errors made in rushed localization are more likely to stick for a long time, if not forever)
Respect the hell out of any company willing to actually end their series. The older I get the more I appreciate endings rather than franchises continuing forever.
Yeah unlike a certain "assassin's something" franchise which keeps milking their title after the main story had already ended instead of creating new games.
That's becoming a bigger and bigger challenge with each new game. Ending a series is arguably the hardest thing to do, especially if it's been running for 2 decades.
@@jaku9730 absolutely!
@@arclight7892 funny enough if Assassin’s creed was just a historical fiction version of Final Fantasy and didn’t have the modern day crap connecting them together I’d be fine with it going forever since each game would be a self contained story
Provided that it answers all its mysteries first. As Trails is, there are way too many things left unanswered to end now.
Kondo: We cut out one arc
Also Kondo: We doubled the length of the other 2 arcs to compensate
Not that wrong, he said all remaining arcs will be 2 games long.
Calvard isn't finished after 3 games yet.
So same result in that plot points get repurposed for Calvard and next arc but we end up losing one party and a more thoughout exploration of one country.
Yeah they already have a lot on their plate so having another full party of characters to keep up when they actually get to the finale would make things hard.
Pretty sure he stated Kai was the end of the Calvard arc.
@@chrisglare6354he lied we still have one Van game to go.
@@joaocbcneto sounds good! I personally love Van as an MC.
as someone still early into the trails series, i'm just enjoying the ride. i've finished the sky and crossbell games and will be starting cold steel soon.
Man its so short... i hope Kiseki continue to be at least until 2028
Hey Dom, great minds really do think alike! LOL, I do think that they're going to wrap up the entire Zemurian Saga with the next arc, but Trails won't really end, it will just migrate over to a different continent and start anew. Great video my friend!
What are the chances we talk about the same topic on the same day! :D
@ no kidding! It’s so serendipitous!
You don't even need to migrate to a new continent. Just changing the time period or [SPOILER] would be fine.
Fans: “Kondo… Just how many games are left in the series?!”
Kondo: “Fufu… Wouldn’t you like to know?”
Kondo: "...Because even I don't know."
I mean, it's probably better that the series end when the creators are satisfied rather than them feeling forced to continue it beyond it's natural end point. Most people can probably think of at least a few TV shows that lasted way too long and descended into mediocrity.
One thing I think should be noted is that Falcom could return to Zemuria sometime in the future if they so desire. The world is developed and maybe they could jump back in with other eras in the continent's future or even past. And, if the Sky remakes do well, there could be remakes of the Crossbell games to bring them up to the standards of Cold Steel and beyond just like the Sky remakes will do for those games.
But, in any case, Falcom has earned my trust. Though I love the Trails games, I am interested in seeing what they do with Legend of Heroes games after Trails.
Yeah I would love to see some smaller scale arcs set in places like Remiferia, you could also do prequels that explore lore events like the war of the lions or the cult takedown.
This could be a very weird idea, but IF they do it right with the Tokyo Xanadu series, there is some possibility. We all know there are ports that connect "normal" Tokyo to several Eclipses. We have also seen that not every Eclipse is formed by a Greed (or dungeon master if you like). Could it be possible to find another gate/port somewhere in the Eclipse that does not lead back to Tokyo, but to a whole alternate reality? A reality that has a continent called Zemuria? Just some weird thinking of me, but you could link these games together and have episodes that play in "normal" Tokyo, but also somewhere on the Zemurian continent? It would be interesting to see what happens if these two worlds connect with an Eclipse as a kind of "bridge". What would Ouroborous do with that knowledge? Cough... Yeah - Not likely.
Anyway - Just ignore my rambling. It's good to see that the Trails series will not go on indefinitely. Somtimes enough is enough...
Kinda reminds me of how when Eiichiro Oda, creator of One Piece, gets asked when OP ends and he always says "in about 5 years". He said this for the past 10 years or so.
We just reached Elbaf in the manga finally. I would assume after this arc , only some main ones are left.
@@Moody.Smiruai And the funny thing is Elbaph was never actually planned. It was originally planned to just go to the last main arcs but then Oda changed the plan and decided to go to Elbaph after all.
@MrFutago87
Elbaf was definitely planned, at least when Little Garden was first written, Luffy and Usopp stated they wanted to go there.
@@SUPERVEGETTO92 Nope, Oda has recently confirmed that he initally had no plans for Elbaph. Contrary to popular belief Oda does not meticulously plan out everything years in advance. He does plan some things out but mostly he goes "What would the characters do in this situation" and goes with the flow.
@MrFutago87
You gotta source for that, I follow a lot of One Piece sources and none of them explicitly said that Oda never had plans for Elbaf until recently.
Agreed with all of it. Everything is too fluid and changes happen. With that, I'm planning on taking a seat next to you and enjoying the ride.
Don't be sorry that it ended, be happy that happened!
I am looking forward to end of series
I prefer a series with a great ending to one that is stretched infinitely. I also can't wait to see what Falcom will come up with next with a blank slate to work with.
There is one thing one thing that is 100% certain.
We are more then 0% complete
You sure about that? Maybe all the games up until now have only been the 1200 hour prologue?
JK.... I hope.
Aw man im not ready for it I love the world they have created . This series saved my life an restarted my love of games an game collecting .
Same
Personally, I interpreted Kondo's statement in regards to the post-calvard arc being the last as a statement of intent, and not much more. Like you said, plans can quite easily change. That said, if a certain overarching series of plot points, which is present in each arc (unless DB2/Kai prove me wrong), is utilised in either the Calvard arc OR the arc after it *in the same way as Cold Steel did*, I can believe it. As it's that series of plot points that to me defines the overall trails progress, at least until proven otherwise.
Sorry what do you mean by „a certain overarching series of plot points, which is present in each arc“?
Whenever this series DOES end of course ill be bummed, but still it has been an awesome ride.
My heart says no, but my mind says yes. By that i mean that the history alredy walked the walk. If they start a new saga and start small again before we go to the world changing events i think it will be good for them. I mean, they know how to write stories, doesn't necesary needs to be this one. And we can learn to love the new world!
After the "series finale/story conclusion", my dream is that Falcom *CONTINUES to do more Trails games* in the form of *standalone prequels* to older events in the Trails lore that are still a mystery (like *"The Great Collapse"* incident, *"The Salt Pale"* incident, *"D.G. Cult"* era, *"War of the Lions"* era, or even *"Swin & Nadia"* origins story before their appearance in Reverie). I REALLY think there is potential in revisiting those old events and seeing how things like *"Kea's birth"* or *"Celeste D. Auslese" recording* that was shown in Sky 3rd actually happened.
That's actually a pretty good idea, at the very least it gives them a nice way to keep the series relevant while they work on a more substantial next move.
Swim & Nadia already have an origin story. 3 & 9.
@@TheRealMaruki Yes, but it is NOT in a "video game" format. I'd rather "experience" their story firsthand than "read" it through an in-game novel IMO.
@TheInfinityMaster1 Sounds like a you problem. With how big Falcom is, they wouldn't do that.
Personally, I think it would be a very good thing for Trails to wrap up and migrate to a new universe/timeline/period/whatever. I really like Trails' gameplay, world-building, and many of their characters, but the longer the series has gone on the more tortured the plot has become to accommodate the huge number of characters, mysteries, and major events that occur when you make a JRPG series >13 games long. I think a little bit of freedom would do their turn-based team a lot of good, and if they wanted their new series to also be interconnected, I'm sure we could get invested in the new setting as well.
The only thing I believe out of kondo mouth is that we will go to leman/arteria next. He mentioned those places the most in the last 5 or so years. If leman/arteria is the final arc and dealing with and understanding the church I’ll be okay with it.
can't wait to see what they come up with next!
I still think it's gonna be a solid two arcs when I consider what we haven't covered yet, but knowing Kondo anything could happen so we'll just have to wait and see.
The problem is that every arc introduces new characters and locations which leads to new mysteries needing to be answered. With those new mysteries, we get more plot lines that have to be tied up. Story and character bloat is one of the biggest issues in Trails right now.
I think we are very close to the end of the Trails series. The last arc however will definitely be much bigger than all the other arcs. I still think we could see more spin offs like having a game in the holy city of Arteria or a Ouroborus spin off game, that would be so AMAZING!
That‘s a very cool idea! I‘d also be interested in having one game per country to catch up and setting up the serie’s finale with the final one bringing all of them together (Maybe that‘s already happened, I‘m still in the first 40% of the games)
Liberal, Crossbell, Erebonia, Calvard.
I think that there's enough material to have at least one more arc in a new region.
I have the thought, that we get only so many games as long as they make at least SOMEWHAT of money. Faster Translation, new engine(s), bad sales in jp, Corona - the last years must have been really really rough as well as for falcom. So it's only natural that they cut the fat and try to get at least to a somehow pleasing finale of Ys as well as Trails. And I think after that, that will be it.
CEO talk, translated into layman: we will make more depending on the sales of kuro :D
tbh I think if falcom go for a completely new idea and design they could make even better games than trails or even ys ever were
Hear me out; A Metaphor Refantazio style game where it mixes a bunch of the mechanics with an original setting.
Atlus shill try not to mention Metaphor challenge = impossible.
@siege_sensei lmao, I am an Atlus fan, but Trails is where my heart belongs.
Now in my mid 60's I just hope I live long enough to see the end of Trails..
While I'd be sad about it coming to an end, I also think it would make sense. It's daunting if you're a newcomer and feel that you have to play all the games. Cold Steel was my first, and I managed to play Sky in between finishing CS3 and waiting for CS4 and was still missing context because Zero/Azure wasn't translated yet, and now I have Daybreak 1&2 on my to-do-list because I just finished Reverie. Even though you _can_ skip games/arcs, it really feels like you're missing important context, and so any newcomer kinda has to commit to playing 13+ games to get it all. I think it's time to clear the slate and build something new.
personally i want it to continue because i love trails but what u said is true i got 2 of my friends to play they loved the first one but they asked me how many more do they have to play and well i tried explaining how long and the amount of games they would have to play to even catch up to where i am theyre just not sold uk like it just takes alot of time and i get it
Huh? So the solution to draw new fans in is to... end the series? Not a soft reboot, not trusting that the series is good enough to play fully? This comment section is full of cope.
@@Synthpopper I feel like you're being unreasonably disingenuous. Soft reboots clearly do not work in the current ecosystem, because the loudest partition of the fan base will insist that newcomers should not play it even if it _is_ a valid starting point. I think what OP is suggesting is that there will eventually be an inflection point at which continuing the series has diminishing returns. The series's gimmick is that each game coexists in the same world, and that gimmick will mean less the longer the series gets because fewer people will have the realistic chance to see it through to the end even if they _do_ trust that the series is good enough to play fully. For a personal example, I have obsessed over this series close to nonstop over the last 4 years, yet I've only played 7 of the 13 and counting games. I wholeheartedly intend to play every Trails game-maybe even every modern Falcom game-but I also don't want to rush it like some people do and blitz each entry back-to-back.
Your comment leads me to believe that you are not a Trails fan or you're trolling, but let me know if neither of those is true and you have some other goal in mind.
@@SynthpopperStarting a brand new sub-series within Legend of Heroes of course. That's what they did when they started the Kiseki/Trails series after the Gagharv Trilogy which came after the Dragon Slayer duology (though the part where LoH is itself a spin-off of Dragon Slayer is no longer relevant)
I just started the series with Trails through daybreak. Its a solid JRPG. I love the challenge that nightmare mode provides.
You know, considering how it all started, this has been one heck of a Journey so far
Almost finished with Reverie. Pretty sad the Erebonia arc is about to end for me. I really enjoyed all these characters quite a bit. I don't see how the Calvard arc can top such a great cast. I am of course willing to give them a chance but I would be shocked if that cast could outdo this one. Daybreak is next for me. Finally caught up.
You know, I've started the entire Trails series 3 years ago. Officially caught up as a month ago. Every time i say they can't outdo the previous games or characters....they do lol.
calvard arc is 100% a better cast imo but I wont spoil anything
Calvard cast is absolute peak for me even though i really love rean crew…calvard protag is too goddamn cool
@@pirisel1137 Yeah i love all the main protagonists in the series. But, Van Arkride is the best imo.
Well I very much look forward to it then. I am (literally right now) playing the final boss on NM for Reverie as I am anal about having to platinum everything before I move on. I did see a short cutscene of Grim Cat and she was adorable so hopefully there are others like her in the game as well.
I’d like to see a time skip, so we can see how the younger characters are as adults - my theory is they will do Cold Steel 4s method of bringing all the casts together, but writ large on a bigger scale across the final arc.
A franchise that is worth playing and respect the fans has its end.
The Trails sub-series might end in the near future, but that does not mean The Legend of Heroes meta-series is ending. After all, Trails (which has 13 main line games as of Kai no Kiseki) is "only" the 3rd sub-series of The Legend of Heroes, the first being the Dragon Slayer sub-series (which had 2 games) and the second being the Gagharv trilogy.
In a way, I am kinda looking forward to the next sub-series of the Legend of Heroes.
Just started daybreak and oh man it has been a journey. I too think they will definitely drag out this last arc ...IF it is the last arc.
From what I understand, Kuro did some massive damage to the series as a whole in Japan, and I think Kondo's saying what he's saying to try to rebuild hype over there. "Hey guys, it's ending soon! You don't want all that invested time to go to waste and not see the ending, right!?" type of deal.
It's not really Kuro itself but more the lack of direction/endless stalling it had since Kuro 2 (it's almost like Falcom were literally saying to the players "we never planned anything more than selling Kiseki games"), you can ask japanese people and they'll say Kuro 1 was still pretty good (even if a bit too much on the easy side and with an unclear/not really well designed UI), what killed the goodwill of japanese fans was the endless padding and how nothing big happened in the games until reaching certain points (usually the intermission/last chapter), unfortunatly Kai did the same as Kuro 2, thankfully it is written a bit better but overall Kuro 2 flaws are all over Kai as well that the general consensus would be that "Kai should've been Kuro 2", combine that plus the fact that Falcom dgaf about the Garghav Trilogy anymore so they let some Chinese publisher rewrite it completely as a mobile game and yep, they basically asked for it, you can see on twitter how they end up being spammed with people saying that the legacy of the starter LoH trilogy should be protected at all cost.
A lot of japanese fans were so upset with Kai they review bombed the game on Amazon, to make it clear japanese people were already feeling tired of Kiseki games after CS3 (where the sales initially started to drop), to them Sen no Kiseki (Cold Steel) was great but a bit too long for what it really offered (and i kinda agree with them in a way).
But yeah, i agree Kondo is certainly trying to hype up the fans so that they'll feel obligated to purchase the "last game", even if it end up being untrue later, he loves playing dirty after all.
I'm fine with the series ending sooner rather than later. It's gone on long enough that enough clues to its biggest mysteries have been dropped, such that when they're finally revealed they're in danger of being underwhelming. (We've all guessed who the First Anguis is by now, right?) And the longer they drag the series out, the more underwhelming the reveals will be, so yeah, hurry up and show us Dorothy is the Grandmaster of Ourobouros already.
My only worry is that whichever arc is the last, it'll introduce a new set of characters that we won't have time to get to know and love before the whole series wraps up. I'm only up to Daybreak I, and I don't feel like I've truly gotten know this bunch yet (especially since some were introduced so late into the game). It doesn't feel like the great mysteries of Zemuria are ready to be revealed yet, especially since the massive cast of every previous arc needs to be there when it is. Cold Steel definitely felt like it dragged on too long at 4 games, even though it brought back the Liberl and Crossbell casts. Maybe 2 games is enough to tell a complete, satisfying story with a new cast - Sky FC/SC and Zero/Azure wrapped up quite nicely. And then just 1 more game to bring back old characters and tackle the metaplot? Or maybe you need 2 games after all, since there are even more returning characters now?
Anyway, I hope with all this shuffling of their plans around, Falcom gives us a well-paced and -structured climax to the Trails saga.
Sure trails will end but im guessing they'll still use that world for more stories 😊
I‘ve finished Trails from Zero four hours ago and immediatly started with Azure. After powering through the first four games (and finishing Cold Steel 1 before going back), I‘m in love with the characters and the general vibe. But at some point the story should end. I‘m all for making another 3-5 games but without an epic finale the whole saga will become a daily soap.
Trails series is not yet over 2 more arc to go.
Its similar to One Piece where of course a lot of the plot and ideas are planned but when actually explored , they may want to expand on them more , hence whats important is the number of arcs left , not the time. It could increase.
With 3 years at the least -- more likely 5 years since they won't be year after year -- to remake Sky, plus likely remaking Zero & Azure, too, then I'm certain we'll see the 30th anniversary with the franchise still running, albeit we'll likely be at the tail end if not the final game that year assuming there's 4-5 games for the final arc. Excited either way tho. Just beat Sky FC the other night and can't wait to play the rest.
I'm wondering if they are taking the last 2 arcs and combining them into one big arc?
hope they remake, all of the Sky series and the Crosbelle arc.
Maybe they can start a long running series in a different world again lol. Though doing that sounds like a hassle, when so much worldbuilding has already been put in the trails series.
It’ll be interesting/exciting to see where Legend of Heroes goes next after Trails has wrapped up.
They cut an arc only to merge it with the other arc, meaning the final arc will be 6 games and then we get one extra epilogue the game!
I stand by my previous comment on another video. Final arc consists of 3 games set up, climax, wrap up. Then an epilogue victory lap game, then we'll see spin off game more isolated stories told in different countries
I'm guessing there is likely one more arc left after Calvard. The final Arc will be 4 games, much like Cold Steel was, then we will get one, if not two, games to wrap everything up, much like Reverie did with the first "half" of the series. I could see the first "wrap up" game covering Calvard and the last arc, while the second and final game wraps the entire saga up on one grand scale. If I'm thinking about this correctly, that would put the series as a whole at 19 games, which would kind of hurt if we didn't get to 20 haha.
I'm going to be sad when it's over, but it will also be somewhat relieving. We will have nearly 20 games in one of the greatest series ever made. Throw in the Sky remake and hopefully the subsequent SC and 3rd remakes, and we will have the entire saga accessible on modern platforms outside of just PC.
Without mentioning any specific/spoilers, Kai answers some of Zemuria's biggest mysteries/lores. I really hope they would make at least 2 more arcs, one in far east/Elsaim or Valis and final arc in Arteria and Leman.
my huge concern is that most remake/remade will be available to switch at the beginning. I hope they also release it with PC at the same year.
Im glad it could be coming to an end not because i think its getting bad its not but there is that issue of it or going too long
I hope if it does end they just remake the series in current graphics but If means end of one great start of another
I assume any future remake plans depend on how well the Sky remakes sell. I think the Crossbell games could use the remake treatment.
Kudos if they do end the series. But I have full confidence in whatever Falcom decides to do next. Maybe they can turn Tokyo Xanadu into their next main franchise along YS. Or maybe something completely different. In any case, I'll be right there to check it out.
To quote rocky: It's over when it's over 🤭
I don't mind that is reaching close to it's conclusion. It has to end in some point. And plenty people are getting impatient or frustrated with those cliffhanger endings, while they want to see the series reach it's climax asap. Still, I had tons of fun playing these games ever since Sky back in the day. Some games were worse than others, but I still had fun at the end of the day.
For me: i Hope the series never ends but IT hast to eventually. Love this series since playing IT in 2020
Honestly, I feel like we're going to have one more arc and a final game to cap it off. Kondo wants to wrap up the series until 2030, and there's bound to be at least one break between Trails releases. Considering that, there's four games left at most, which is most likely Kai 2 + new arc (2 games) + finale. I can't see them releasing a new arc so soon, and 2025 has to be their promised two-game year (Trails and Tokyo Xanadu 2, remakes do not count). Making the final arc only two games long would also be very un-Trails-like.
Anyway, we'll know it for sure this December.
Considering if they really want to do another arc, that would have to mean trying to one up everything you’ve upgraded in both gameplay, combat, & graphics. I don’t think they’ll have the money to truly keep progressing further. There will always be a limit of what they can achieve within multiple games alone in their own budget.
Kondo did say that they won't do another arc with as many parts as Cold Steel so take that as you will
I'm sure all of us are excited for a new series not set in Zemuria and with a new cast of characters in the future. It will be fantastic.
Didn't the entire Crossbell arc only come to existence because they felt like changing the plan?
Yep , to build erebonia up more
There's still so much uncertainty on how Trails will finally end. Only time will tell on how it will happen.
I just thought he said the 90% remark to appease shareholders who wanted them to tie it up
I'm inclined to agree: there's no way they'd kill their cash cow series so soon. Falcom can project when they think the series will end, and simply move that target time and time again.
The issue is the cash is decreasing and Falcom staff is getting tired of the series as well
@@florac1995 how is cash decreasing? they amount of sales each year has been increasing. week 1 japan sales doesn't mean anything, considering it released the same week as a zelda game. new ip will definitely get less sales, and cost significantly more...
@@florac1995 the cash is decreasing in Japan but increasing in the rest of Asia and on our side in the west.
I think it's respectable. Final Fantasy should've ended after 9, or at the very least after 12.
its fckn true
I think Final Fantasy isn't a particularly good example, and I'd struggle to find a good example regardless. The manner in which the last Trails game is handled is way more significant than the manner in which the last game of a typical JRPG series is handled because Trails's ending will have implications for the entire series, whereas, say, Final Fantasy 9 being the last Final Fantasy game doesn't change anything about the importance or canon of Final Fantasy 7. No matter how you slice it, the ending of Trails will be a huge deal and a lot of fans will be pissed off by how it ends, whether it's too soon, overdue, or otherwise dissatisfying to them. FF and other series are way more malleable than Trails as a concept could ever be.
Where could the Last Arc take Place?
Even more in the East of Zemuria? Where the Kruga Live?
Will we ever see Remiferia or North Ambria in a Main Game?
A Leman estate+Arteria arc is how I could see them ending it.
Since the Church is the 2nd biggest loreman faction after Ouroboros and Leman is home base to a lot of important organizations like the guild and Epstein foundation.
@@joaocbcneto oh you're right. We never saw the Holy City so far.
@@joaocbcneto About Ouroboros do we even know All Anguis yet?
@@TobiasKlose. I think we're missing the 5th and 1st still officially, thought a ton of the fandom already knows who the 1st is due to voices.
I'm still stuck at cold steel 2act1. Now I'm playing refantazio and really need to catch up.
After finishing Kai were definitely getting closer to the end of the
It's okay for Trails to end. Keeping it going indefinitely would eventually just suck the life out of it. I just hope they give it a strong and satisfying finale. DON'T RUSH IT KONDO!
I would also love to see Falcolm do a brand new Legend of Heroes story :)
Dream timeline we get remakes of everything until crossbell
That’s about it I feel everything else is a toss up end the series if you want to start with something fresh to wrap up the gen
i surely hope so. i have so much catching up to do. lool
The Final Arc should be a Full on Zemuria Arc that allows you to explore the entire Zemurian Continent in one game or 2.
That sounds terrible
I think believing anything Kondo says with regards to number of games left is always a bit of a gamble I agree. Didn't he say after Cold Steel 4 that they'd never do an arc with 4 games again, only for Calvard to turn out to be... 4 games again 😂
Yep! He does come through on quite a few occasions (the Sky remake), but anything speculatory like this is a coin flip.
Trusting kondo in the big 21st century 💔
We still have the remaining Sept-Terrions and S-Rank Bracers to consider
While logically i think that they will eventually end this series, by revenue Trails series is they most profitable source of income by very far, they other projects dont come any close, so from buisness perspective i realy doubt that they will stop this IP in near future. Especially now, when they doesnt have alternatives.
End of trails and end of legend of heroes are different things.
As much as I love Trails, I have always been a firm believer that every story has to have an ending, lest it go on and on and people lose interest.
But… I wouldn’t mind if the end is still years down the road. I just introduced my brother to the series with Trails In the Sky. We’re playing it together and he’s already enjoying it even though long RPGs aren’t his usual game genre. We can’t play for hours every day because of real life, so I need a few years to catch him up in the series. :)
When they call it not more Trails, maybe for a other Continent Story/Stories they give New name.
I want more van games.
I'm shocked this even needs to be said. Those numbers are obviously just estimates. People are way too obsessed with his exact words.
I want Trails series to last forever
they should have a solid fanchise before ending trails series, so the company wont suffer from making new IPs an example is how atlus ensured persona success after persona 5 to allow themselves making metphor re fantazio and for trails if its ended they can keep using It and its success to try new ideas like strategy JRPG Action JRPG
Trails should never End. Never
I don't believe a single thing Kondo says at this point. 90% mah ass 🤣
I'm both sad and happy that Trails will come to an end in the near future though. It's bittersweet.
I wouldn't mind the main story being complete after the next arc, but I'd love for more Trails-related games and more specifics on some characters and locations. Hell, a prequel going over the events of the War of the Lions would be awesome. Getting to play as Lianne, Roselia, the original Divine Knights & their awakeners, etc.
Either way, I'll always follow Falcom for whatever they want to make next. I do hope they keep the turn-base for their next new IP, while retaining Ys & Xanadu for their action RPG genre.
We'll see what happens. I am among the few here in the West that has played and completed Kai No Kiseki (got my plat in it too), and I am soooo ready for the next game.
I feel like overtime, I trust Kondo’s words less about the future of the series
If there still demand for the trails series they will keep making them.
It's like one piece, it's gonna end of course, the authors probably know how would it end, but as creators as long as there is the means (the business aspect of it) there will always the desire to add more because your art is your baby. Take the estimates with a mountain of salt.
I think they might’ve also looked at different ways to tell a story. Instead of following the standard new arc formula, they might be working on a more condensed, but still impactful, sequence of events, especially since so many things have already been introduced. Kinda like how Hajimari started a new format.
I could also see them having one ‘arc’ and then… ending games that aren’t part of that arc, but still exist. They also could’ve decided to just cut things and put them in a different form of media (mobile game, anime, manga, light novel, etc.,)
I think there are two arks left.
East zemuria then one to tie it up.
Only factions left to play are jagers and the church 🤷
People are focusing too much on "just one arc", when what matters is "how many games?"
The series is ending, no spoilers, but Kai has practically paved the way for it. How many games and how many years it will take, we don't know. But we are at the endgame.
Using the sales as an argument is dumb, when PlayStation in general is selling poorly in Japan.
Kondo said before that he doesn't intend an arc to be as long as Cold Steel, which would suggest 3 games max. Yet, Calvard looks like it'll be going beyond 3, that's already an inconsistency.
As for the sales, it doesn't matter if the PS crowd is slowing down. It was still below expectation and a massive drop on previous years. A lot of Japanese fans are losing interest in Trails, you just need to look at their issues with Kai to see that.
@Sortyourselfout-cu7en I can't believe plans change!!!! Never happened before in this industry.
@@ladinokrowyeah? And that's pretty much the point of the video. Kondo is too inconsistent to believe when it comes to the end of Trails.
@@Sortyourselfout-cu7en It's not inconsistency, it's just marketing. Percentages and things like that are all about generating attention and it ALWAYS works. How many videos and posts have we seen about this same subject over the years, it always works.
Of course that doesn't reflect on sales in Japan, but it works here.
@ladinokrow it's not working though, Japans sales reflect that. The series has stagnated at 50000 units for each new release.
And even then, that's still not the point of the video. If Kondo keeps making little porkies like this, then people will just not even bother listening eventually. The boy who cried wolf.
Wow. Pelvic Gaming is right. The Trails series really is the "One Piece" of JRPGs. The creator even changes his mind regarding when the series will end, just like One Piece's creator.
WOW dont scare me like that!! The END??? NOoo!!!!!! 😭
I want Legend of Heroes 1-2 Remake, and Legend of Xanadu.
The Trails ends, the Legend of Heroes continues.
Will it be like in the 80's individual games not related to each other? or like the 90's, it will be a trilogy? whatever the case, this saga will end and The Legend of Heroes will take a new form.
I just want to play the original trails in the sky games on switch
Funny enough, the thing that made me question the progression of the timeline was them pushing out Nayuta with the expectation that we needed to know about that game's story in preparation for Daybreak or at least Kai.
Based off this the Western release was last year, to foreshadow events for a game that is coming out for Western audiences next year, or we as a player are supposed to factor in that story into Daybreak. The only connecting tissues I saw where the AI looking like fairies and that the Geneses were based off pocket watches, and by extension gears.
Nayuta was a weird one, I firmly believe it's canon in some way. I'm expecting a small easter egg in a future game to tie it in.
@@TheKisekiNut Kai 100% makes it clear it's not canon, sorry.
@jgswweet what part of dont spoil kai did you miss?
@@ChicCanyon It's not spoiling a game to say that it confirms a spinoff is not part of the same canon?
@jgswweet you have no idea what i a person can rightfully or wrongfully infer from your statement. You and will never interact again. Good riddance to you.
Hooray, the Kiseki nut has joined the, "Kai no Kiseki Western Release by the end of 2025 Club." To be fair, I'm so cynical on Kondo's "Trails is X% complete," or "We only have X number of arcs or X number of games left," even if Kondo woke up tomorrow and said, "The final game in Trails will be releasing on X month, X day, 20XX", I still would not believe him xD
From all the promo material, kai no kiseki feels like what hajimari was for the previous arc. My copy hasnt arrived yet so i dunno if that is true.
Yea the end of the series is the end of the series. Before that is completely unfinished.
NISA is effecting the script during development? Well fuck. RIP Trails, even learning Japanese won't save us.
Localizing before a script is final means that it is possible that we are getting an unfinished version of certain parts, so...yey? Like, I get the desire to play games sooner rather than later, but I keep hearing celebrations for corners that are badly cut to make that happen and I can't personally get behind swapping out a temporary bad thing for a potentially permanent bad thing.(Since games can always be translated later, but errors made in rushed localization are more likely to stick for a long time, if not forever)
The last Trails Game should have some more familiar faces from the other Trails Games Joining Van & Rean.
近藤社長のはkai2 kai3 kai4を出しても 残り10%ですと言う意味だぞ