I take offense to this. I will report back to my leaders. South Korea will be joining the North. Korea, China, and Japan will put aside their differences to establish a new world order. Western civilization has peaked with SJW and cancel culture. We will excise the cancer of western culture replacing it with our own.
"RiuT is gonna think cavalier" - said T90 at exact moment infantry upgrades are going in. I mean, don't doubt hit predictions, but the comedic timing value is great.
I agree about your theory, I remember Saracens with the fast market abuse strategy got super popular when they got that tiny buff to market discount. But like, the market was already deeply discounted, I feel like that strat was always there even with old bonus, waiting to be discovered. And as for random civs, a button on 1v1 ranked for like "agreed random". If both press button, both go random civ. If only one or neither hits button, their normal civ choices go forward.
This. The random civ checkbox would solve so many problems for those tired of the same 5 civs every map. I'm surprised it isn't already in the game given how much they usually listen to the community. I do like how they give these tiny buffs to underplayed civs though. It doesn't really change anything, but it reminds people to pay attention to this option they had all along. It increases variety at virtually no cost.
Any chance you could make the stats numbers for the players at the bottom-left bigger? Since a few months, they've been so tiny I need to blow up the window on my computer and watching on my phone is completely impossible because I can't read a thing... :(
Completely agree about the need for a random civ option in ranked. I love the improvisation of playing random but it’s less fun when playing against somebody who is following a meta script.
Im pretty sure that at my elo im confronting only tryhards who plays 1civ 1strategy (usually franks or goths) and that gets old. To the point I usually ban Arabia or play mirror civ.
i honestly feel like everyone forgot skirmishers exist pretty sure Riut would have been able to at least hold it better if he had gone for skirm axeman instead of halb axeman or if he had mixed skirms with knights when the first war wagons showed up
@@the_thunder_child not really, I've already used skirms against war wagons, they just melt them like yeah it takes longer than against other archers, but they're still great also we're talking abt a trash unit against a gold, u can spare the gold to use on knights to cover the skirms
Yeah T90, you’re right, I’ve heard another UA-camr who has talked to youtube about it say that the like button doesn’t do anything for the algorithm. It used to at one point, but now it’s all about watch time I believe.
Fun Fact: Depending on who gets the first hit, Frank and Teuton Palidan are the pretty much even in melee fights against each other. Lithuanian Palidan needs 3 relics to beat Frank/Tueton Palidan. Credit: SotL
This was a pretty standard game, which was really nice. Some lesser seen civilisations, but it was mostly two really good players, playing a really great game.
I think you are right about your theory crafting and I think that random civ should not only should only be more available, but should be the default. High tier meta across a lot of games falls into the trap of group think alot, and gets stale because of that, and random civ forces players to actually think and evaluate things for themselves rather than just go with what everyone else says is best.
as a noob, I would love to go random, it would force me to use all civs, but I can't trust it because 80% of people pick their civs, so I pick mine too.
1v1 should just be forced random civ - easy fix. team games is for civ pick and synergies. 1v1 should be random. picking civ on 1v1 is no balls all boring
One chnage I would really like to see in the game is that buildings can only be placed at a certain distance from the selected villager. That would prevent the ability to check what the enemy is doing simply by placing cheap buildings in their area, as well as denying build space.
As an answer to the question. Yes gimme random queue. Even if I didn't personally want it I'd quote a teacher of mine: "you'rr hungry and open the fridge, and only find beans, so you eat beans. You are hungry and open the frkdge, there are beams, tomatoes, potatoes, lamb steak, doritos and burritos, and you choose to eat beans. Now, which one feels better?"
I suppose this video was made before new Update announcement? Because, according to it, Full random will be there for us in July :) Oh! And thank you for the video.
I know throwing axemen are the way to go for Franks to counter halbs. However, considering there were war wagons in the mix. Why not elite skirms? Wouldn't that counter everything MBL was doing?
It is DauT’s face. “DauT castle” is a common memey term in the community for a risky castle that fails to be built or falls right after it’s built, even after investing a lot of villagers into it. DauT is known for having a lot of risky and failed castles like that, and the face is a reminder that every castle can be a DauT castle if not properly protected :)
AOE2DE -- The only game i don't play i spend hours watching youtube casts. T90: the beast who makes this both possible _and_ bearable :D (for some reason, i can watch anyone else casting aoe games xD)
@T90Official I'm not a fan of "Please don't forget to like and subscribe" calls. But an independent journalist and a public research person I follow said that they made an experiment and didn't ask for subscriptions in a few videos. The decrease in subscriptions were drastically low, according to what they say they observed. So they said "We don't like to say these either but people really forget to subscribe". So, maybe you should consider reminding these, even if you and your viewers are not a fan of it.
Martijn I’m too 2 percent on DE so I don’t think I need to L2P. The Aztecs and Mayans are the only civs that have been dominant on land maps. Incas are okay but Mayans and Aztecs have been top 5 or so since the game launched.
I think Halbidier from Riut was a misjudgement althought it is what many people go for as Frank. When he got his cavalry upgrade, he should had positioned his knight/cav near mbl and threat a base race. War wagons accuracy is very bad, especially when running loose formation and the speed is quite slow also. Frank would lose if trying to defend with cav. If go cav have to be running around the sides of enemy base. Otherwise, go rams + axe and bombard cannon. Bombard cannon to fight the ornager. Once see ornager coming should tech into cav or building seige workshop side way.
Korean war wagons are pretty tanky. You can't really throw pikes at them in castle age, or knights in small numbers. Archers and skirmishers are too weak. One way imho in castle age as franks vs wagon spam is to have enough mangonels (say 5?)with standby monk and vills to repair and force a standoff. Another fun way would be to garrison rams with pikes but it might be too situational and a waste of resources. Hmm imperial age. Capped Rams with Halberdiers, and bombard cannons to counter MBL's composition. Would be an epic battle. Even better, add hand-cannoners behind the rams to counter possible infantry escorts.
If you happen to be up against someone going full war wagon, and you happen to be Berbers, go full genitour. It’s a hard counter. Also counters Conqs and Mangudai real well too.
No random civ option is the sole reason I dont play any DE. I enjoy civ variety too much to play in an environment that has most people pick strong civs only. Also 9:25 is so bullshit, I cant believe they wont fix this
I'm bad at that too, with all upgrades, asap, but I think it has to do with, do you want to rush, and if they rush, you have no res for army to defend. IMO, A lot of people will rush as they are going up and if you clicked all upgrades, they mean nothing because you will die with no army. I think the way to do it is, when you go up, create army right after, then work on upgrades. Honestly, I'm not sure, I only said this hoping to make someone correct me, therefore, answering your question, but as a noob, that's kind of how I see it.?.?
@@shawnbybee85 The best time for wheelbarrow is, according to my memory from SOTL's video, at roughly 40 villagers; and handcart straight after. Of course it does still depend on when you have the resources, as you said. Also, if you're heavily housed it's better to get it then, rather than waiting for a while with an idle tc...
I try to grab it right before going castle, but you can't if going fast castle too expensive. Can be good once you have more TCs so you're only slowing villager production down a little.
Maybe his economy wouldn't have allowed it because of MBLs push, but I think RiuT could have cleaned up MBL with a Paladin-Throwing Axemen combo. With Paladins in front to tank damage and rundown the War Wagons and the Axemen coming up from behind to take out Pointy Bois.
Riut lost the moment his miss balanced eco delayed his castle time. Everything after that was inevitable IMO. He certainly did not help himself being so indecisive so much in micro, (a lot of his throwing axmen died without ever attacking as he just ran them back and forth in front of the war wagons uselessly), and in macro however, (he couldn't seem to settle on a composition).
Frank skirmishers suck. They lack Bracer, Ring Archer Armor and Thumb Ring, so they are inacurate, have -1 range and dmg, and take +2 dmg from fully upgraded Korean ranged units.
Or you could do it like they have done in pokemon. Have an algorithm that denotes Tier 1 civs based on their usage on a certain map and ban them from Tier 2. Same for Tier 3. This way you can choose to go into a T2 arabia queue that doesn't allow civs like Aztecs etc. and you'd see loads more of the less well liked civs. Good idea or no?
MBL had so many chances to take a few relics earlier. He had two monks there which he barely used for anything. I never understood why pros so often straight up ignore the relics.
Don't get it dude, I've had it for like two weeks and have already sank over a hundred hours into it. Now my family thinks I'm dead and a search party has been organized to try to recover my body because I haven't seen daylight since downloading it
Watching and playing with Mike Hawk is an excellent hobby
Giggity
Mike Hawk has a big fan base... Pretty famous in some circules
Guys Mike Hawk is 15 feet tall. I’ve met him
How do you guys know so much about Mike Hawk?
some might think i hate Mike Hawk because i beat it everyday!
T90: "I'm not a fan of the Korean civilization."
Even his farms are descriminatory.
jocaguz18 bro
I take offense to this. I will report back to my leaders. South Korea will be joining the North. Korea, China, and Japan will put aside their differences to establish a new world order. Western civilization has peaked with SJW and cancel culture. We will excise the cancer of western culture replacing it with our own.
what he meant was the is not a fan of the korean people
Do South Korean's say "Howdy" and "Y'all"? In my head they do.
"RiuT is gonna think cavalier" - said T90 at exact moment infantry upgrades are going in.
I mean, don't doubt hit predictions, but the comedic timing value is great.
look at 19:00 "MbL only has 6 farms" :D
10:45 Riut confirmed SOTL viewer
Exactly what I tought
He did not pay that much attention tough, sotl kinda said this isn't what you should do
Riut outed as neon nazi
@@ubelmensch What are you taking about?
@@shemsuhor8763 yes it is
@@ubelmensch what?
29:27 "now that the monastery goes down , we can go for dirty Jokes"
Mike Hawk destroyed the monastery
T90: ''My girlfriend is a big fan of Mike Hawk''
seems too edgy
Took me a moment and then "WTF!?"
Is it just me, or everybody feels like it sounded un-PG13???
T90 flexing for having a gf
Rather Juvenile...
RiuT using the farm layout baptized by SOTL as "The Shuriken", typical Japanese civ fan
It was actually closer to the pinwheel. Just had a farm one square out which pushed one side out. 3/4 pinwheel, 1/4 shuriken.
I agree about your theory, I remember Saracens with the fast market abuse strategy got super popular when they got that tiny buff to market discount. But like, the market was already deeply discounted, I feel like that strat was always there even with old bonus, waiting to be discovered.
And as for random civs, a button on 1v1 ranked for like "agreed random". If both press button, both go random civ. If only one or neither hits button, their normal civ choices go forward.
This. The random civ checkbox would solve so many problems for those tired of the same 5 civs every map. I'm surprised it isn't already in the game given how much they usually listen to the community.
I do like how they give these tiny buffs to underplayed civs though. It doesn't really change anything, but it reminds people to pay attention to this option they had all along. It increases variety at virtually no cost.
Ive never seen this game before but i really enjoyed this commentary and this video! Hope to see more
T90: I'cant see you...
Me: instantly check the comments for john cena related comments
T90: Franks have the best paladins except for lithuanians sometimes
Teutons: Am i a joke to you?
no husbandry certainly is a joke
@@OgedeiKhanOKOK now that is what i call a joke11
@@OgedeiKhanOKOK Franks are better against ranged units, but teutons dominate against melee
I'm not a big fan of Mike Hawk. One day I will take a trip to Thailand with him and help him change his name to Mike Hunt.
T90: "I'm not a fan of the Korean civilization."
Also T90: "Ultimately, I like these civs."
Any chance you could make the stats numbers for the players at the bottom-left bigger? Since a few months, they've been so tiny I need to blow up the window on my computer and watching on my phone is completely impossible because I can't read a thing... :(
Everytime T90 mentioned that Mike Hawk joke he laughed like an actual 8-year-old 11.
That dance with the axemen and trebs from Riut in the face of a larger uphill mass of war wagons was some really top level micro, insane.
Completely agree about the need for a random civ option in ranked. I love the improvisation of playing random but it’s less fun when playing against somebody who is following a meta script.
I pick random, and I still follow a meta script anyway, it might just change or perform a bit differently every match
Im pretty sure that at my elo im confronting only tryhards who plays 1civ 1strategy (usually franks or goths) and that gets old. To the point I usually ban Arabia or play mirror civ.
i was drinking water and that intro joke made me spittle
I used to love Koreans, (not for the tower rushing) and Im so glad they can be competitive without relying on towers now.
I mean he pretty clearly said that building towers to keep riut off resources and close him in / not give map control was a part of why he won.
i honestly feel like everyone forgot skirmishers exist
pretty sure Riut would have been able to at least hold it better if he had gone for skirm axeman instead of halb axeman
or if he had mixed skirms with knights when the first war wagons showed up
Sadly skirms don't do too well against war wagons. Their HP and pierce armor is too high for the skirms to trade efficiently
That is the one unit I seem to never make, ever. If I get hit by archers, I just don't think of them, I usually go knight.
@@the_thunder_child not really, I've already used skirms against war wagons, they just melt them
like yeah it takes longer than against other archers, but they're still great
also we're talking abt a trash unit against a gold, u can spare the gold to use on knights to cover the skirms
@@the_thunder_child You must be noob. ^^
Yeah T90, you’re right, I’ve heard another UA-camr who has talked to youtube about it say that the like button doesn’t do anything for the algorithm. It used to at one point, but now it’s all about watch time I believe.
Game was practicaly even until 26:40 fight. Those axemen really threw :d
at least one doesn't loose immediately tho...because they throw so slowwwly
11:45 That house lantern looks like mouth of DauT at the first glance.
"annoying on the front and booming behind" - that's what she said
That's what he said, actually.
Fun Fact: Depending on who gets the first hit, Frank and Teuton Palidan are the pretty much even in melee fights against each other. Lithuanian Palidan needs 3 relics to beat Frank/Tueton Palidan. Credit: SotL
Yes but that doesn't take husbandry into account. A faster paladin is a better paladin.
I love these family friendly PG videos with Mike Hawk, such a good guy and great aoe player
So early, there's no Korean towers on my woodline. MBL hasn't touched my boar... yet.
HAHA the opening line "okay well im not seeing you right now"
Great cast! Thanks T90
This was a pretty standard game, which was really nice. Some lesser seen civilisations, but it was mostly two really good players, playing a really great game.
Just a good game. Every game can't be a meme
I think you are right about your theory crafting and I think that random civ should not only should only be more available, but should be the default. High tier meta across a lot of games falls into the trap of group think alot, and gets stale because of that, and random civ forces players to actually think and evaluate things for themselves rather than just go with what everyone else says is best.
Let's be real T90 is casting this just make that Mike Hawk joke 😂😂
literally laughed at my phone though nice one
BRING RANDOM CIVS BACK
as a noob, I would love to go random, it would force me to use all civs, but I can't trust it because 80% of people pick their civs, so I pick mine too.
1v1 should just be forced random civ - easy fix. team games is for civ pick and synergies. 1v1 should be random. picking civ on 1v1 is no balls all boring
One chnage I would really like to see in the game is that buildings can only be placed at a certain distance from the selected villager. That would prevent the ability to check what the enemy is doing simply by placing cheap buildings in their area, as well as denying build space.
As an answer to the question.
Yes gimme random queue.
Even if I didn't personally want it I'd quote a teacher of mine: "you'rr hungry and open the fridge, and only find beans, so you eat beans. You are hungry and open the frkdge, there are beams, tomatoes, potatoes, lamb steak, doritos and burritos, and you choose to eat beans. Now, which one feels better?"
I suppose this video was made before new Update announcement? Because, according to it, Full random will be there for us in July :)
Oh! And thank you for the video.
Imagine showing this video to a person from 13th century Europe
great game, thanks T90 you da best
Best title erver, I cliked just for it !
BTW T90. What civs are the weakest in current meta for the land maps? I hear you mentioned Portugese.
43k more subs T90. Then you'll be casting all night again for that Land Nomad FFA.
I know throwing axemen are the way to go for Franks to counter halbs. However, considering there were war wagons in the mix. Why not elite skirms? Wouldn't that counter everything MBL was doing?
Love the UA-cam only content, like button SMASHED
Can someone explain the weird castle mod with the dude’s face on it?
It is DauT’s face. “DauT castle” is a common memey term in the community for a risky castle that fails to be built or falls right after it’s built, even after investing a lot of villagers into it. DauT is known for having a lot of risky and failed castles like that, and the face is a reminder that every castle can be a DauT castle if not properly protected :)
@@AnteQu thx now many thinks make sense :-D
can someone explain why MBL got loom at the beginning of the game?
AOE2DE -- The only game i don't play i spend hours watching youtube casts. T90: the beast who makes this both possible _and_ bearable :D (for some reason, i can watch anyone else casting aoe games xD)
@T90Official I'm not a fan of "Please don't forget to like and subscribe" calls. But an independent journalist and a public research person I follow said that they made an experiment and didn't ask for subscriptions in a few videos. The decrease in subscriptions were drastically low, according to what they say they observed. So they said "We don't like to say these either but people really forget to subscribe".
So, maybe you should consider reminding these, even if you and your viewers are not a fan of it.
That was a sick game. riuT definitely underestimating the Korean snowball I think
My personal favorites include the Spanish, the Aztecs and the Britons.
Why no skirms against the war wagons? Easy to mass and behind the cav they would do serious damage imo
Couldve skirmishers helped there? I know MbL had bombard cannons but maybe get a 25-30 loose formation skirms against those halbs and Vagons? IDK
So, could you do that "feature" with the palisades to see the opponent's whole base?
can anybody tell me why there is a face on the castle ?
Mike Hawk was letting it all hang out and waiting for Ruit to jump on it
come on give him the likes people. great video T90
18:52 Nice vill counts
The meso civs need to be nerfed into the dirt they’ve been op for 20 years
I'm going to guess that this is an L2P issue
They are strong but not op.
No cavalry means they need strong other options
Martijn I’m too 2 percent on DE so I don’t think I need to L2P. The Aztecs and Mayans are the only civs that have been dominant on land maps. Incas are okay but Mayans and Aztecs have been top 5 or so since the game launched.
Jeff Finkbonner you don’t need cavalry in 1v1 as much as you used to.
I think Halbidier from Riut was a misjudgement althought it is what many people go for as Frank. When he got his cavalry upgrade, he should had positioned his knight/cav near mbl and threat a base race. War wagons accuracy is very bad, especially when running loose formation and the speed is quite slow also. Frank would lose if trying to defend with cav. If go cav have to be running around the sides of enemy base. Otherwise, go rams + axe and bombard cannon. Bombard cannon to fight the ornager. Once see ornager coming should tech into cav or building seige workshop side way.
Korean war wagons are pretty tanky. You can't really throw pikes at them in castle age, or knights in small numbers. Archers and skirmishers are too weak. One way imho in castle age as franks vs wagon spam is to have enough mangonels (say 5?)with standby monk and vills to repair and force a standoff. Another fun way would be to garrison rams with pikes but it might be too situational and a waste of resources. Hmm imperial age. Capped Rams with Halberdiers, and bombard cannons to counter MBL's composition. Would be an epic battle. Even better, add hand-cannoners behind the rams to counter possible infantry escorts.
19:08 he just finished construction on a beautiful courtyard for that tower. Now, KILL THEM.
T90 working real hard to get to that bachelor life
14:00 holy crap whats going on
don't let the low views take away from how solid this content is :)
3> T90
are there any more hoang games? i love hoang games. they never get boring
Mike Hawk always pushes deep inside hard and fast, even when it is usually obviously a mistake when viewed after the fact.
If you happen to be up against someone going full war wagon, and you happen to be Berbers, go full genitour. It’s a hard counter. Also counters Conqs and Mangudai real well too.
Concerning random civs, rather than a separate queue for random there should just be a checkbox that enforces random civs if both sides agree to it.
Do you realize it's 1 14 am?? Guess I'll have to sleep till 10 :D
No random civ option is the sole reason I dont play any DE. I enjoy civ variety too much to play in an environment that has most people pick strong civs only. Also 9:25 is so bullshit, I cant believe they wont fix this
i used to get wheelbarrel first thing at the start of each new age... i heard thats wrong, so when do i get it? im so confused!
I'm bad at that too, with all upgrades, asap, but I think it has to do with, do you want to rush, and if they rush, you have no res for army to defend. IMO, A lot of people will rush as they are going up and if you clicked all upgrades, they mean nothing because you will die with no army. I think the way to do it is, when you go up, create army right after, then work on upgrades.
Honestly, I'm not sure, I only said this hoping to make someone correct me, therefore, answering your question, but as a noob, that's kind of how I see it.?.?
@@shawnbybee85 The best time for wheelbarrow is, according to my memory from SOTL's video, at roughly 40 villagers; and handcart straight after. Of course it does still depend on when you have the resources, as you said. Also, if you're heavily housed it's better to get it then, rather than waiting for a while with an idle tc...
I try to grab it right before going castle, but you can't if going fast castle too expensive. Can be good once you have more TCs so you're only slowing villager production down a little.
Wish T90 had started with
"... and this is a 1v1 between Riut and Mike_Hawk..."
You get a big like for that intro
Who is Mike Hawk?
Mike Hawk always comes to your videos.
Who is this MBL person he keeps mentioning? Mike Hawk is clearly Riut's opponent in this game...
Hi! It's Vince with slapchop.
Maybe his economy wouldn't have allowed it because of MBLs push, but I think RiuT could have cleaned up MBL with a Paladin-Throwing Axemen combo. With Paladins in front to tank damage and rundown the War Wagons and the Axemen coming up from behind to take out Pointy Bois.
Movement of those vagons is so clunky :D
Before DE Koreans had like hidden 4% faster building for towers. dunno if that got changed with de. @t90
I had to immediately give the like after that intro.
You don't see me, right?
T 'We're not even gonna touch Mike Hawk' 90
23:45 MbL confirmed
Riut lost the moment his miss balanced eco delayed his castle time. Everything after that was inevitable IMO. He certainly did not help himself being so indecisive so much in micro, (a lot of his throwing axmen died without ever attacking as he just ran them back and forth in front of the war wagons uselessly), and in macro however, (he couldn't seem to settle on a composition).
Mike Hawk likes it thicc- T90 2020
the girlfriend disliked the video at 1:17
Mike Hawk always goes YOLO and thrusts straight into anything it sees.
is there a god damn face on that shield or do i need to go back to mids
If T90 tried to cast this on Twitch he would have gotten banned.
21:05 MB should have DauTed that castle. Unfortunate
Nice win for MBL, but I like Riut a lot. He has potential
1:18 Am i the only one who hear that? Come on I cant be the only one.
Why not cav and elite skirmishers instead of axemen?
Frank skirmishers suck. They lack Bracer, Ring Archer Armor and Thumb Ring, so they are inacurate, have -1 range and dmg, and take +2 dmg from fully upgraded Korean ranged units.
Or you could do it like they have done in pokemon. Have an algorithm that denotes Tier 1 civs based on their usage on a certain map and ban them from Tier 2. Same for Tier 3. This way you can choose to go into a T2 arabia queue that doesn't allow civs like Aztecs etc. and you'd see loads more of the less well liked civs. Good idea or no?
Looks like deers are a lot easier to lure on definitive edition
Why not make skirms against war wagons and halbs?
MBL had so many chances to take a few relics earlier. He had two monks there which he barely used for anything. I never understood why pros so often straight up ignore the relics.
dont need relics if youre plannin on ending the game soon
I'm getting an ad for vaseline on this vid... something to do with Mike Hawk?
Could heavy tech into halbs have saved RiuT (over Axemen)
So who won the game? 🤔
How much is aoe thinking about getting into it
15 dollars on stream for DE
Don't get it dude, I've had it for like two weeks and have already sank over a hundred hours into it. Now my family thinks I'm dead and a search party has been organized to try to recover my body because I haven't seen daylight since downloading it
Lmao it’s on game pass for pc so I’ll try it out thanks 😂