Perfectly understandable that people don't want to buy from China in the current climate. I've now owned 3 bikes with this cfmoto (Kawasaki inspired - cough - copied) architecture and they are good bikes that have been around for a decade now. Parts are available and not expensive. Reliability on the post 2017 models has been great, my 2014 has had issues but fixed now. The only downside I see to all these new bikes with the 650 platform is they're raising prices, but so is every manufacturer. It's funny reading all the comments saying it's crap because it's Chinese - those days of only cheap products from that country are long finished Does anyone else here know that Swiss watches costing thousands of dollars produce the components in china - they just assemble in Switzerland..food for thought
Sorry but when the new Hornet with 30BHP more is the same price this looks poor value to me ! ... Plus Chinese build quality and depreciation levels ? ..No thanks.
pirelli mt60rs tires and pirelli wire wheels, kayaba brand suspension, bosch 9.1mb abs, brembo brand brakes, bosch injection system, 8 valve dohc fuel delivery system same motor block with kawasaki ern6 italian design and luxury details? and you call this machine "chinese bike"? dude. ahaha no. you must lost your mind. stop that prejudice.
It is I believe from the same stable as my ex Benelli, which whilst most reviewers said it was fantastic, it turned out a right nightmare and is disposed of with relish! Back to Honda with no worries whatsoever!
the only issue i have with this, like always, is that the engine is dull, being theone from the 650 kawasaki, it does not matter how agressive they try to make the tune of the ECU, it only ends beingh harsh and terrible, instead of torquey and enjoiable... POS of an engine design
Scrambler... Basically someone saying "Boy, I sure wish I owned a dirt bike that was heavier, lower, and less off-road capable so that I can go down a gravel road once a year!"
Loved your review. Have you tried the CFMOTO 700 CL-X, how do you compare both? What about the Macbor Eight Mile 500 scrambler and the Benelli Leoncino 800 Trail? Thank you
@motobob Its a very smart looking modern scrambler. I think it looks outstanding personally...👍 I will say though I would be worried about the manufacturer, I simply don't know enough about them, their reliability / after sale customer service etc. That said they can't be as bad as KTM lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ All in all £7k for that bike, its a great price!
Got one for £5k, and it's a lot of bike for my skills 😉 The gearing is a bit short, so feels a bit jerky in low gears, but like any bike you just have to adapt to it.
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Triumph make most of their bikes in Thailand including the Bonnevilles and they work fine. It’s the same ethos as Moto Morini, design it locally and build it in the Far East. I don’t say I like it but it’s the way of the world these days.
Several KTM engines are made in China, and the new KOVE that finished all 3 bikes in the Dakar Rally recently. They make millions of reliable engines these days but the old stereotypes remain.
Please review the Benelli Leoncino 800 trail a great bike for a great price a scrambler but benelli calls it trial Great video but i don’t like the looks of the MM Bike’s
Quite close to the old Transalp for P:W. None of these new Scramblers have very good headlight protection accessories. These lights must cost a lot To replace.
Very interesting, I had an original Triumph scrambler a few years ago...and a Street Twin until the zombie apocalypse happened, looking for just this sort of bike for this spring and summer... HMMMM? I wonder what the dealer network will be like?
It’s a great looking bike , a good comparison would have been cf moto cl-x heritage for a Chinese back to back , Japanese wise the new hornet or mt07 , the Chinese are going to take over the small and middle weight class , which will grow as high end bike are probably only selling because of PCP and buyers can have twice the bike they couldn’t afford !! 🏍🏍👍👍
Un señor dijo si morini benelli y otras marcas son hechas en china solo por el logotipo de la marca cuesta mucho más prefiero una china directa y cuesta menos y encima me entero le ponen su motor chino a estas entre comillas italianas prefiero cfmoto directamente y toda la razón son gustos
Manufactured location - red flag. After sale servicing/support - red flag. Parts quality for a country that rains all the time and salts the roads - red flag. Lack of quality parts or used market to do own servicing - red flag. Resale value will dive after the first year as with Lexmoto, Keeway, Sinnis. Buy Japanese.
My cfmotos have been brilliant, and this is the same bike mostly. I get no supporting china but I'm getting so tired of people thinking these bikes are trash. They're really good
@@chrispekel5709 I never said don't support or buy Chinese. We all have basic household items from china. A vehicle is a different matter. You're money is better spent in a second hand jap bike over a new or used chinese bike. every time.
I do like the look of this bike and it will probably be ok for the price in terms of performance however, I think you should try and get your hands on a Benelli Leoncino Trail 800. Do a review of that and then do a comparison on both the Morini and the Benelli. I thought that would be a great comparison. Good review as always and maybe I'll see my suggestion in the future. All the best fella. 👍🏿👍🏿
A few of us in the Algarve have Fantic Caballero's for the mountain roads and twisties, and we swear by them. Their only real competitor isn't the MT07, which we don't like, but the Ducati scrambler which is on another level. But pricey.
It would look better if it had a proper rear mudguard ,& proper right way up forks ,it looks like it’s been kicked up the arse . The top Chinese factories can turn out stuff to any quality & price point . Most motorcycles will now have at least some parts or engine & even whole motorcycles sourced from China , Firms like Honda Suzuki Yamaha ,Harley ,BMW ,Triumph ,Aprilia , & others use Chinese partnerships & others in the far east . One of my bikes is a Chinese built Suzuki & the build quality is as good as anything I see on modern Japanese bikes & equally as reliable. Just wish they would get out the habit of fitting bitza numberplate mudguards & tacky gold coloured upside down forks ,on otherwise potentially decent looking bikes .
I bought a Chinese made Benelli TRK 502 in New Zealand. It's wonderful. Japanese quality, Italian flare and threequarters Japanese price. Trouble is the dealers. Very few and far between. Mine was operating out of his home garage because his business had failed! And the first time I went to change the oil - I could not get an oil filter! LOL I dropped it in my garage and broke the screen. 3-months to get a new one. Which, after much swearing by me, they took off a showroom bike.
I am confused how much you expect from a bike, you have mentioned in videos that you dotn think 390, 400, 650 all have "questionable power" I think its odd to assume most bikes wouil;d have exceesive power. Like I specifically donht want a bike with 1000+ cc. I like the smaller bikes and anywhere from 350-750 cc are my sweet spot but it seems like people expect all bikes to get up and go like a 1000cc plus crotch rocket. You want bikes like this to be controllable at low speeds imo
Perfectly understandable that people don't want to buy from China in the current climate.
I've now owned 3 bikes with this cfmoto (Kawasaki inspired - cough - copied) architecture and they are good bikes that have been around for a decade now. Parts are available and not expensive. Reliability on the post 2017 models has been great, my 2014 has had issues but fixed now.
The only downside I see to all these new bikes with the 650 platform is they're raising prices, but so is every manufacturer.
It's funny reading all the comments saying it's crap because it's Chinese - those days of only cheap products from that country are long finished
Does anyone else here know that Swiss watches costing thousands of dollars produce the components in china - they just assemble in Switzerland..food for thought
I normally don't like Scrambler style bikes but this is not one of them. This is a piece of art. Just WOW!
Like the Color Too
I'm in love with it's voice.
Sorry but when the new Hornet with 30BHP more is the same price this looks poor value to me ! ...
Plus Chinese build quality and depreciation levels ? ..No thanks.
I kinda like the look,, but when you flashed the Fantic Caballero,, oooh baby! That is a fine looking Scrambler 😍.
Hubba Hubba 🔥.
You want a REAL Italian motorcycle? You can bet on Moto Guzzi - always will be built from scratch in Mandelo Del Lario.
I really don't like being sold a Chinese bike under an Italian name that they bought.
pirelli mt60rs tires and pirelli wire wheels,
kayaba brand suspension,
bosch 9.1mb abs,
brembo brand brakes,
bosch injection system,
8 valve dohc fuel delivery system
same motor block with kawasaki ern6
italian design and luxury details?
and you call this machine "chinese bike"?
dude. ahaha no. you must lost your mind. stop that prejudice.
@@Arda-ng7gl where are the bikes assembled? Where are the engines built?
Honda hornet all day long residuals will be far better and it won't fall apart.
Chinese. Badge engineering at it absolute worst.
Nice one Bob !
That's a damn fine looking bike and great value, too 🤔
This is a Chinese bike right!
It is I believe from the same stable as my ex Benelli, which whilst most reviewers said it was fantastic, it turned out a right nightmare and is disposed of with relish! Back to Honda with no worries whatsoever!
Different company building it
just another japanese paid troll.. it's a lot of money to ignore
that's not the same, Benelli are Chinese motorcycles from QJIAN JIANG where only the purchased name Benelli is on it.
Yeah, from my point of view. I honestly think we should ( where possible) not by Chinese products..
Why not?
Si ahora todo es chino nos guste o no con mayor razón para que bajen precios y haya repuestos
Lol most of the products you use every single day are made in China 😂
the only issue i have with this, like always, is that the engine is dull, being theone from the 650 kawasaki, it does not matter how agressive they try to make the tune of the ECU, it only ends beingh harsh and terrible, instead of torquey and enjoiable... POS of an engine design
Scrambler... Basically someone saying "Boy, I sure wish I owned a dirt bike that was heavier, lower, and less off-road capable so that I can go down a gravel road once a year!"
🤣
Looks pretty good. Similar to CF Moto; definitely looks premium in the flesh.
If the Bajaj Dominar 400 is available there, please do a review of that motorcycle.
Chinese made. No thanks
TFT is about average,
its about personality
Cfmoto 700CLX adventure has entered the chat.
A lot of European bikes are made in China .
It seems DOA with Honda’s new 500 scrambler for similar money
That rebel is hideous
Loved your review. Have you tried the CFMOTO 700 CL-X, how do you compare both? What about the Macbor Eight Mile 500 scrambler and the Benelli Leoncino 800 Trail? Thank you
It doesn't look like something I'd want to take off-road so the Scram 411 has it beat for my money.
the versys engine is good....trust me! owning one for 78 k kilometers, good engine.
trouble is this isn't one ...its a Chinese copy of it !!
Love the design but for me it would need a bit more power and less weight to consider it.
That’s a great looking bike - not considered any of the Chinese made machines before, but that really has something 👍🏻👍🏻
Looks lovely. Excellent value for money. Sounds meh. Even when you rev it up there are no tingles down the spine
@motobob
Its a very smart looking modern scrambler. I think it looks outstanding personally...👍
I will say though I would be worried about the manufacturer, I simply don't know enough about them, their reliability / after sale customer service etc.
That said they can't be as bad as KTM lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All in all £7k for that bike, its a great price!
Got one for £5k, and it's a lot of bike for my skills 😉 The gearing is a bit short, so feels a bit jerky in low gears, but like any bike you just have to adapt to it.
5k is a bargain - can't find any except new, i keep watching
I don't like the cables obstructing the dash's view.
This bike looks very much like Ducati Scrambler Urban Enduro. Even the colors and tires. But less horsepower.
Chinese 😖
Great little scrambler.
Would the scram 411 not be better value ?
Lol how ??? At the end Kawasaki 650ern engine is here
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Geez that 180 degree sounds rubbish, it's low powered and heavy. Hard pass from me, don't care how good it looks.
Nice scrambler as well, the new hornet is just little more money to be honest. Do you think is beginner friendly!? Cheers ✌️
I really like the looks but still leaning to the honder Cb650r
Looks a bit like Darryl Dixons bike of the walking dead, I like it 👍
Is it me or does that tank look like it's made from biscuit box tinware... 🍪🤔😳
They lost me as soon as I heard it was made in china. Not interested. I rather pay a bit more for something made in Europe or Japan.
Agreed!
Triumph make most of their bikes in Thailand including the Bonnevilles and they work fine. It’s the same ethos as Moto Morini, design it locally and build it in the Far East. I don’t say I like it but it’s the way of the world these days.
@@mariog4707 people generally avoid such brands because of the after sales service of the bike …
@@PepperShepard well that’s true - no dealer network etc.
Several KTM engines are made in China, and the new KOVE that finished all 3 bikes in the Dakar Rally recently. They make millions of reliable engines these days but the old stereotypes remain.
looks ok. Wouldn't know until you rode it.
Please review the Benelli Leoncino 800 trail a great bike for a great price a scrambler but benelli calls it trial
Great video but i don’t like the looks of the MM Bike’s
Benelli TRK 800 Marcio - wonderful bike.
440 lbs DRY? Holy shit.. that's a heavy AF 650...
You forgot to mention the Royal Enfield Scram! Yes it is less powerful, but it is cheaper
Looks wise is better than the Ducati and Triumph scramblers. The extra high riser bars on the Ducati make it look and feel clownish.
Quite close to the old Transalp for P:W.
None of these new Scramblers have very good headlight protection accessories. These lights must cost a lot To replace.
Moto Morini still develops and produces in Italy in Pavia, only owned by the Chinese Zhongneng Group.
either way crap ,,,,,😁😁😁😁😁
但是发动机 是cf仿制 kawasaki 650
Super similar esthetic to my Svartpilen
I believe the STR has an 18 inch front wheel as well. Good decision to have the same on both bikes, since the frame is exactly the same.
Very interesting, I had an original Triumph scrambler a few years ago...and a Street Twin until the zombie apocalypse happened, looking for just this sort of bike for this spring and summer... HMMMM? I wonder what the dealer network will be like?
It’s a great looking bike , a good comparison would have been cf moto cl-x heritage for a Chinese back to back , Japanese wise the new hornet or mt07 , the Chinese are going to take over the small and middle weight class , which will grow as high end bike are probably only selling because of PCP and buyers can have twice the bike they couldn’t afford !! 🏍🏍👍👍
Un señor dijo si morini benelli y otras marcas son hechas en china solo por el logotipo de la marca cuesta mucho más prefiero una china directa y cuesta menos y encima me entero le ponen su motor chino a estas entre comillas italianas prefiero cfmoto directamente y toda la razón son gustos
Manufactured location - red flag. After sale servicing/support - red flag. Parts quality for a country that rains all the time and salts the roads - red flag. Lack of quality parts or used market to do own servicing - red flag. Resale value will dive after the first year as with Lexmoto, Keeway, Sinnis.
Buy Japanese.
Spot on. Buy cheap. Pay twice.
My cfmotos have been brilliant, and this is the same bike mostly.
I get no supporting china but I'm getting so tired of people thinking these bikes are trash. They're really good
@@chrispekel5709 I never said don't support or buy Chinese. We all have basic household items from china. A vehicle is a different matter. You're money is better spent in a second hand jap bike over a new or used chinese bike. every time.
It’s strange how your comparison didn’t include the new Honda hornet engine, which just might be the class leader now
Looks much better than it sounds, but great value for the price!
Looks similar to the CFmoto 700
I do like the look of this bike and it will probably be ok for the price in terms of performance however, I think you should try and get your hands on a Benelli Leoncino Trail 800. Do a review of that and then do a comparison on both the Morini and the Benelli. I thought that would be a great comparison. Good review as always and maybe I'll see my suggestion in the future. All the best fella. 👍🏿👍🏿
Дуже стильно і якісно, щось подібне планую зробити для себе. Підкажіть який бюджет приблизно такого ремонту? Дякую
Looks like a 2016 Ducati urban Enduro...
It doesn't matter where it's built because of quality control
Another high quality video. Thank you. Let me go find the xcape video...
Will this motorbike be comfortable to ride for a rider who is 165 cm tall?
I was just looking into the x-cape a few mins ago and now you put out a video on their other bike. What timing
It's look like naked.
Chicom bike. lol
Have you compared the X700 from CF Moto?
A few of us in the Algarve have Fantic Caballero's for the mountain roads and twisties, and we swear by them. Their only real competitor isn't the MT07, which we don't like, but the Ducati scrambler which is on another level. But pricey.
Do you have Cab 700 there yet with the MT07 motor?
Hey man, you should check out the CFMoto CLX 700 Adventure
Tiene fea vejez probé una hace tres meses y le espera fea vejez
Put a shaft drive on it and im there!
between this bike and CF Moto 700 cl-x heritage which one do you prefer?
I have same question hahaha.
Thanks once again a great review 👍
Nice vid! You rode by my house!
This is just a versys 650.
All about that side-eye at 5:01.
It would look better if it had a proper rear mudguard ,& proper right way up forks ,it looks like it’s been kicked up the arse . The top Chinese factories can turn out stuff to any quality & price point . Most motorcycles will now have at least some parts or engine & even whole motorcycles sourced from China , Firms like Honda Suzuki Yamaha ,Harley ,BMW ,Triumph ,Aprilia , & others use Chinese partnerships & others in the far east . One of my bikes is a Chinese built Suzuki & the build quality is as good as anything I see on modern Japanese bikes & equally as reliable. Just wish they would get out the habit of fitting bitza numberplate mudguards & tacky gold coloured upside down forks ,on otherwise potentially decent looking bikes .
Iy has navigation too ? How does it work ?
Screen mirroring of your phone
Great review as always! 😎
Cheddar Gorge?
Moist
Nice
There is way too many logos on the bike making it look incredibly tacky imo
It’s plastered in logos to detract from the crappy Chinese bike underneath.
I own this bike and I would luv 2 say wait a minute I lost my train of thought.
❤
Just say _price._ No 'point' required.
Well, that seems pretty conclusive. We're mostly Pro- Motobob and Anti- Chinese shite.
Excellent.
cfmoto clx 700 far superior ,cheaper,lighter ,more hp, 74,4 year warranty
Only downside I see is the WEIGHT...
dont like this gadgeds its better with speed dials
Looks nice, sounds crap😮
China no thank you
I bought a Chinese made Benelli TRK 502 in New Zealand. It's wonderful. Japanese quality, Italian flare and threequarters Japanese price.
Trouble is the dealers. Very few and far between. Mine was operating out of his home garage because his business had failed!
And the first time I went to change the oil - I could not get an oil filter! LOL
I dropped it in my garage and broke the screen. 3-months to get a new one. Which, after much swearing by me, they took off a showroom bike.
If only the Honda CB650R's handlebar is like this, it would be perfect. 👌
I am confused how much you expect from a bike, you have mentioned in videos that you dotn think 390, 400, 650 all have "questionable power" I think its odd to assume most bikes wouil;d have exceesive power. Like I specifically donht want a bike with 1000+ cc. I like the smaller bikes and anywhere from 350-750 cc are my sweet spot but it seems like people expect all bikes to get up and go like a 1000cc plus crotch rocket. You want bikes like this to be controllable at low speeds imo
The money are chinese butonly the money. Thhe motorcycle is all italian,please. It is from Bologna