The Weirdest Thing About Melty Blood Type Lumina

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @rookbranwen8047
    @rookbranwen8047 Рік тому +252

    The dlc being free has definitely given me reason to come back to the game from time to time, though I have yet to find a reason to really stick with the game.

    • @Shieldclock
      @Shieldclock Рік тому +36

      Here's some good reasons coming from someone who's stuck with the game:
      Very freeform, non-restrictive movement.
      The easier combos are decently serviceable, while the difficult combos are both very rewarding and satisfying.
      The system mechanics add a lot of layers to both offense and defense that allows you to think more critically about your choices.

    • @rookbranwen8047
      @rookbranwen8047 Рік тому +9

      @@Shieldclock Although I do have some minor issues with the game mechanics, the bigger problem is that I haven't found a character I want to play yet.

    • @ThatGuy-en2nn
      @ThatGuy-en2nn Рік тому +3

      @@rookbranwen8047 Same here. If Shiki Naynya was in the came I'd have more of a reason to stay.

    • @rookbranwen8047
      @rookbranwen8047 Рік тому

      @@ThatGuy-en2nn as for me I want to see Akiha Vermillion.

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 Рік тому +2

      @@ThatGuy-en2nn I main Ryougi in Actress Again so it was pretty disappointing to not see her in Type Lumina even though she isn't part of the characters that will be released when the Tsukihime visual novel is complete.
      Currently I am maining Saber until we get Ryougi again.

  • @Tribow
    @Tribow Рік тому +184

    This doesn't even cover all of the free music, the god tier update that added almost everything the community wanted, and the free singleplayer updates as well.
    These devs are amazing. Type Lumina is the best big fighting game right now.

    • @raimyonlinewarrior236
      @raimyonlinewarrior236 Рік тому +4

      And new story modes and boss rushes.

    • @lukelmaooooo
      @lukelmaooooo Рік тому

      truth, also the fan translated tsukihime remake is good as fuck, the translators did a professional level job

    • @AverageCatz
      @AverageCatz Рік тому

      @@lukelmaooooo The remake is also getting an official translation early next year, definitely need to check that out

  • @shman5000o
    @shman5000o Рік тому +115

    What's even more neat about these free MB:TL DLC characters is that they automatically get updated alongside the game's overall updates.
    Cause, usually, on the rare occasions other FGs give out "free content" to keep, you still have to visit the game's store page to add it to your "owned" item list. But with MB:TL, their characters aren't even an option to select from the online store page. Instead, you're basically GUARANTEED to get these characters added to your copy of the game when they drop alongside any major update for MB:TL

  • @dekaidoku
    @dekaidoku Рік тому +173

    This is speculated to be the cause of the Parent Company Type Moon having "GACHA MONEY" via FGO to support the game without extra payment to do free updates. And how Type Moon being well Type Moon, aka weirdly chill and indie in places.
    And weirdly Yoshinori Ono, who is producer for the game, who pushed for Free Content Update back during his Capcom Days until Capcom

    • @zero123alpha6
      @zero123alpha6 Рік тому +2

      Sucks that it won't be the same for UNI 2 if it exists

    • @leon445_4
      @leon445_4 Рік тому +10

      @@zero123alpha6 It's confirmed that they're working on it tho

    • @chidori7234
      @chidori7234 Рік тому +5

      Ono is the producer for Type Lumina??

    • @dekaidoku
      @dekaidoku Рік тому +8

      @@chidori7234 sort of. Lasengle, the Developer of FGO is. And Lasengle's President is Yoshinori Ono. He even said he worked heavily on Melty on a recent interview.

    • @laughingstock6078
      @laughingstock6078 Рік тому +13

      @@dekaidoku hopefully they keep up the good work and seeing my new passion for MBTL this past few month i really like what they are doing in the game. also Lasagna are also doing good addition in fgo too. i really like what type moon are doing recently.

  • @MenaceLendil
    @MenaceLendil Рік тому +70

    Another thing about the free content the game is the color editor. Basically instead charging you for extra color sets you get to make your own character colors, as you like. FIghting games often lack customization and this a really cool way to add that in. Also essentially gives you more colors than you'd ever need for free.
    Sadly the game might not be for me gameplay wise but i appreciate the devs for going great stuff.

  • @jeremoople
    @jeremoople Рік тому +26

    It would be amazing if more companies took the "we have a product that generates so much passive income that it doesn't even matter if anything else we make is profitable so we don't need to take every monetization opportunity in our other products" approach. I don't think literally any other company has done that.

  • @dawesomegamer
    @dawesomegamer Рік тому +38

    French Bread don't make Fate!!
    Tsukihime and Fate are owned and created by Type Moon. TM contracts French Bread to make the Melty Games, not unlike Dragon Ball FighterZ being made by Arc Sys.
    They might be getting additional funding from Type Moon, but I think the overwhelming community response after Neco arc dropped is a contributor as well.

  • @BeholdMe
    @BeholdMe Рік тому +8

    "Free DLC? How are they making a profit?"
    FGO (The most successful and profitable gacha game ever to be made literally twice because of NA/JP releases being separate): Greetings mortal

    • @smugofbishamonten1447
      @smugofbishamonten1447 Рік тому +4

      I still don't understand how that mess of a game still stands...and I'm playing it

    • @mizukumecasko1216
      @mizukumecasko1216 11 місяців тому

      ​@@smugofbishamonten1447
      Best game ever
      Not recommended

  • @GrimmShane
    @GrimmShane Рік тому +2

    always remember! Play Melty Blood! with the power of Friendship and Poverty!

  • @sebmarine4046
    @sebmarine4046 Рік тому +2

    neco arc in thumbnail neco arc in thumbnail neco arc in thumbnail neco arc in thumbnail

  • @CaseNumber00
    @CaseNumber00 11 місяців тому

    After finally reading the fan translation patch to Tsukihime, I now now why DA (Dead Apostle) Noel is a child. She was changed into a vampire and chose the form when she was last happy, as a child before her entire town was fed upon.

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN Рік тому

    I really love the way they gave back to the fans. Like free dlc is really crazy for this day and age. The only thing that I can think of that comes close is sf5 which gives you fight money you can use to get some of your favorite characters by just grinding in game stuff.

  • @keo_bas
    @keo_bas Рік тому +1

    The dlc being free saved my wallet since i tripled dipped in steam, swtched, and ps4. I also struggle to find character to played. The one I wanted to main where PCiel, Ushi, Mash, and i some how landed on mario. how aggravating would it had been for me to purchase each one seperatly only to find their not my cup of tea?

  • @kitkatiecat
    @kitkatiecat Рік тому

    Was that "faaavourite finger" joke a reference to Battleblock Theatre? Lol

  • @darienb1127
    @darienb1127 Рік тому

    I know that Skullgirls has done the limited time free charatcers thing in the past. But they've also allowed players to test charatcers while still in development! As in, some of the charatcer's animations were still just sketches kind of unfinished. But it's super cool to see how these charatcers develop over time and take player feedback as well!

  • @nan0phone
    @nan0phone Рік тому

    I thought that V1.07 was packaged with a special edition of Carnival Phantasm

  • @Howardpower679
    @Howardpower679 Рік тому +5

    If you hate d.a. noel GO play and read tsukihime remake
    You're missing a great fucked up character and lore lmao

  • @TheActualMrLink
    @TheActualMrLink Рік тому +2

    0:11 I feel like I do but also don’t want to know.

    • @sageofnothing2061
      @sageofnothing2061 Рік тому +1

      tsukihime is a good read

    • @ShikiRyougi05
      @ShikiRyougi05 Рік тому

      Worse than you think... probably

    • @whoppher6145
      @whoppher6145 Рік тому +2

      So basically when the maid were children a wealthy man known as makihisa tohno adopted them because the tohnos are actually demons that invert and go crazy and the maid have this ability where when they have sex with someone they heal them so one of the maids was force to use this power when she was five which cause her to become sad but her sister never had to use her power and swapped personalities because the protagonist left because he got killed by his brother

  • @JayDayKay
    @JayDayKay Рік тому

    Holy shit our boy got a sponsor

  • @skunthundler
    @skunthundler Рік тому

    0:10 Idk about the remake, but from what I know, Tuskihimie wasn't all that big in Japan back in the day. If anything, Melty Blood was the more popular game back in the early 00's.

  • @jpVari
    @jpVari Рік тому

    it's very appreciated, but personally I especially appreciate it when I play the game on my switch and all the characters are there without me paying twice.
    edit - oh wow apparently there are new levels I hadn't noticed yet!

  • @exnamekian
    @exnamekian Рік тому

    I'd pop my shit if Order-Sol was a free bonus character in Strive

  • @PwnerGeist
    @PwnerGeist Рік тому

    Lolis and meltyblood go together like prisoners and orange jumpsuits

  • @TheKarol096
    @TheKarol096 Рік тому

    ...just please...UNI2, as well French bread.

  • @izanagiforsmite4365
    @izanagiforsmite4365 Рік тому

    I've been intending to try this game, just got a phenomenal reason to

  • @stripestako
    @stripestako Рік тому

    Number 10: Neko Arc

  • @ttori_333
    @ttori_333 Рік тому

    ive read somewhere on twitter that the reason why Type Lumina gives out free DLC characters is because, they want to(?) iirc, the developer was really overwhelmed by how the game got positive impressions by everyone and that the game's sale exceeded their expectation. since they dont really need the extra cash by doing paid DLC, they made them free (also as a way of them saying thank you)

  • @yellowduckgamedev
    @yellowduckgamedev Рік тому

    im planning on making a fighting game, and honestly thought that free updates where the norm like they are in any other genre. Apparently they arent.

  • @CyrNanaya
    @CyrNanaya Рік тому

    tsu-key-hime

  • @visiongap6042
    @visiongap6042 Рік тому

    I think this video is a bit misleading as it isn't French Bread who made the DLC free, but Type Moon. If you look at the info that comes from the devs, the roster, and the story, it becomes very clear that the DLC decisions are up to Type Moon but the game play aspects of said characters are French Bread's work.

  • @emeraldmann1329
    @emeraldmann1329 Рік тому +1

    yeah tsukihime's lore is certainly... a thing. Good? Eh. Bad? Probably. Fucked up? Abso fucking lutely.

    • @boredomkiller99
      @boredomkiller99 Рік тому

      Kohaku's backstory alone is enough to make me concerned for the creator's mental well being

    • @nouvelle147
      @nouvelle147 Рік тому

      Have y'all seriously never consumed a single piece of media with dark elements in it? Why are you all so fixated on that lmfao

    • @emeraldmann1329
      @emeraldmann1329 Рік тому

      @@nouvelle147 Man there's a difference between 'media with dark elements' and the level that Tsukihime goes to. Dark elements is like Tanya and Re:Zero, this is a bit beyond that.

    • @nouvelle147
      @nouvelle147 Рік тому +3

      @@emeraldmann1329 Geniunely not. There are TONS of media that explore even darker themes, Tsukihime is pretty optimistic when it comes to it's darker elements, always having that hopeful "Light at the end of the tunnel" feel. Just hearing about the backstory might be shocking for people, but I wouldn't say it's over the top or anything

  • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
    @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Рік тому

    umm, overwatch gave all of its new characters for free until it became overwatch 2

  • @laughingstock6078
    @laughingstock6078 Рік тому

    just remember that fgo prints so much money they (while not as much as genshin) they can just make anime just for the hell of it. the whales are gods and i kiss their asses with my peasant lips cause holy shit i love dantes. though type moon, where is the tsuki-hime anime that covers all ending and a movie and another kara no kyokai movie?

  • @KoylTrane
    @KoylTrane Рік тому +2

    DA Noel is the most based character and you can't do anything to change it

  • @CivilChev
    @CivilChev Рік тому

    Project L will be following in the same footsteps with the addition of the game being F2P from the get go. Just like French Bread Riot will have League skins money to mess with so they don't need to worry about making sure their fighting game is financially successful (though it probably will have skins)

  • @kccts44
    @kccts44 Рік тому

    9:04 Nice

  • @THERUSHER29ify
    @THERUSHER29ify Рік тому

    What is the song at 8:04?

    • @carb1290
      @carb1290 Рік тому +1

      Crawl from Guilty Gear Strive.

    • @THERUSHER29ify
      @THERUSHER29ify Рік тому

      @@carb1290 thanks i knew the song but i couldn't remember where i heard it from :)

  • @TestNewphone-f6n
    @TestNewphone-f6n 2 місяці тому

    Its not a weird thing
    He is just clickbaiting
    Tldr
    The released characters for free
    So he lost his shit

  • @shadowmaksim
    @shadowmaksim Рік тому

    I guess since it was mentioned, I kind of want to go on a rant about it.
    I am so sick of the bathroom jokes regarding "Melty Blood" anything. Like, I get it. It's been a joke with the series for a long time. But the meaning it held back then and the meaning it has now has radically changed.
    Originally, it was a joke of how easy it was to set up and a sign of the player base dedication. As in a "we are so dedicated to this game, we can and will play it anywhere" sort of deal. But at some point, people either outside or new to the community started taking that joke at face value and turned it into a dismissive "haha, this game belongs to be in the bathroom" phrase. Only the FGC can manage to change something inspirationally good into something demeaningly bad.
    Anyways, with that out of the way, "Type Lumina". I really gotta get more into this fighter. I tried it briefly when it first released but I didn't stick long with it due to various issues. With all the improvements, I've been meaning to get back to it for a while now. It's doing a lot of things I like but it's also wrapped in a lot of stuff I'm not exactly a fan of. The "Tsukihime Remake" character re-designs, the baffling lore reasoning for what can or cannot be included, and of course..."Grand Order" getting so forcibly shoved in, etc. Every time I start thinking of jumping back in, something happens that puts me off just enough to cause me to pass it by.
    I'll get over it at some point...hopefully. If nothing else, I just want to support French Bread for all the care they are seemingly have for the game.

  • @cheesusabidas77
    @cheesusabidas77 Рік тому

    the only bad thing about mbtl is that it has not enough melty blood characters

  • @007meef6
    @007meef6 Рік тому

    This is another proof that project L will be huge
    That game WILL add all of its new characters for absolutely free and it's going to be amazing

  • @catnekokot
    @catnekokot Рік тому

    Okay, you didn't read/search what devs says about free dlc to MB TL (interview was everywhere but okay, not everone cares enough to read firsthand instead of guessing wrong but tell others, happens); you didn’t even do the simplest fact-checking on a bunch of topics this time, to the point that mislead turn into straight lie (search info about arcade release of MB and problems with that and if possible taking into account the specifics of time when GG sell 15k to 50k copies so pc release dosen't guarantees at least the absence of losses; from a video you may think that MB re releases all about profiting from new patches - it is true for some games ofc, not MB case; and CL-R is the dumbest example bc patch to it is free, also can buy character only, and the full new copy gives only a bunch of dlc like colors - you can't check even that or just don't care, huh)
    Yeah, okay, bye forever

    • @cycy8699
      @cycy8699 Рік тому

      please use more periods

    • @catnekokot
      @catnekokot Рік тому

      @@cycy8699 non-native speaker; please use more brain

    • @cycy8699
      @cycy8699 Рік тому

      @@catnekokot from a non native speaker to another non native speaker, try to use more periods. in any language you should still fucking use periods.

    • @catnekokot
      @catnekokot Рік тому

      @@cycy8699 ...

    • @cycy8699
      @cycy8699 Рік тому +2

      @@catnekokot thank you

  • @guythatdosethingssometimes2651

    Free characters
    Are nice.
    But none of them are len and or neco chaos so the game is basically garbage.

    • @MokonaModokiES
      @MokonaModokiES Рік тому +5

      >Len
      check the ending of boss rush 4 in lumina

  • @Lucky8r8k
    @Lucky8r8k Рік тому +41

    Can’t believe there were people review bombing a game for not adding free content they specifically wanted.

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Рік тому +11

      "When Ryougi/Sion/(insert Fate Character here)?" And repeat ad nauseum.
      ...yeah, Type-Moon fans can be rather fussy with who they want in.

    • @Magnet_Chaos
      @Magnet_Chaos Рік тому +17

      I can't even blame them TBH. They added 1 of the most random Fate characters to the roster over the literal main character of Melty Blood.
      Dantes at least has SOME history with Rao. But Ushiwakamaru? What's was the logic there?
      And I'm saying this as someone who preffers Fate over Tuskihime.
      I mean sure free content. But it could have also been better free content.

    • @redbloody946
      @redbloody946 Рік тому +2

      Is it "specifically wanted." If they're never going to play that "free content" free is great sure but time is vital, we have to wait for GOD how many month for them to finally add more og character to the game?

    • @simonizquierdocarrasco7099
      @simonizquierdocarrasco7099 Рік тому +5

      @@Magnet_Chaos I know I'm 2 months late, but Ushi literally won the popularity contest for who do you want added at n°1, so yeah, that's the reason...
      Don't forget that Melty Blood is niche, FGO fans is the actual public that makes the most noise

    • @Magnet_Chaos
      @Magnet_Chaos Рік тому

      @@simonizquierdocarrasco7099 I play FGO. Honestly didn't know Ushi was that popular. And I'm disaapointed at our community.

  • @IppoX90
    @IppoX90 Рік тому +26

    I think it's worth mentioning that on the top of characters you get the stages, music along them and recently the added MBAACC music remasters too.

  • @Quirkee37
    @Quirkee37 Рік тому +17

    Crazy thing is that before this video basically all the discourse around MB:TL DLC was people being pissed at them releasing FGO characters instead of tsukihime/MB characters. Now i thought that shit was kind of dumb when I first saw it, but now I find out they were complaining about free characters?! some people are just beyond help.
    I dropped the game during launch cause of the netcode issues but you've definitely convinced me to give the game a proper shot

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Рік тому +3

      In their defense, Ushi & Dantes were the 2nd & 3rd FGO characters released in a row after Mash, and Saber is already part of the game at launch. That makes a total of *4* Fate servants in a game that's supposed to be about Tsukihime. So the salt is a bit justified if you're invested as a Type-Moon fan.
      Doesn't help that there's no legacy character to help draw hype like in the previous batches (Aoko, P.Ciel & obviously, Neco)

    • @zhaoyun255
      @zhaoyun255 Рік тому +2

      They really wanted the Legacy Characters since Aoko and Neco Arc are the two big factors that revived Type Lumina for awhile. Especially Neco Arc, people just bought the game for Neco Arc along and they even had a tournament JUST FOR NECO ARC alone. Only Neco Arc had her own tournament in Type Lumina as of right now.

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Рік тому +3

      Just gonna say this out right now, but remember: Type Lumina is a companion game for a visual novel remake with only 1/3 of its routes out at the moment, with several legacy characters held back as to avoid prematurely spoiling said routes and not to mention characters tied to the Tatari plotline (Sion, the main heroine of that was outright deconfirmed when TL was first revealed), which does carries some hopeful implications in the long run.
      As far as expanded media is concerned, only Kagetsu Tohya is free game (if Kouma is of any indication).
      ...and begging for Ryougi is just a meme at this point.

  • @Sorwolf
    @Sorwolf Рік тому +25

    What I'd like would to at least have the DLC characters free to mess around on training mode. I think that would be nice for 2 reasons, 1) You could figure out their move set, see if you enjoy their gameplay and help you do a more informed decission on buying it or not and 2) would give people that didn't pay for the character a way to lab stuff against then without the need to burning money just to have access to them for that reason.... as someone who's broke I'd appreciate that.

  • @boredomkiller99
    @boredomkiller99 Рік тому +13

    Meltyblood is just advertisement for the Tsukihime Remakes and is clearly Typemoon trying to build Tsukihime to be a massive media brand like Fate. Therefore not making money on the dlc is no problem.

    • @MokonaModokiES
      @MokonaModokiES Рік тому +9

      yeah they are all about the multimedia. Type lumina was announced a few months after the remake reveal and was released a month after tsukire and inmediatly announced a spin off anthology manga, a fuck ton of merchandingsing, with the addition of Mash in melty they added Arcueid in FGO to promote the series more, the aoko reveal was tied with the announcement of witch on the holy night port that ended up having global release and we have a movie for it at the end of 2023.

  • @mariocraft3067
    @mariocraft3067 Рік тому +11

    My big problem with DLC characters in fighting games is just how expensive they are. When you pay $60 for Kof XV, you get a whopping 39 characters. Pay another $60 and you only get 12 more. Omega rugal and a couple other things being free was really cool of them, but Imma wait for a 75% off sale on the DLC myself.
    Also, way more games need to let you use DLC characters for free in training mode. It helps out the publishers since it means more people get interested in the characters enough to buy them.

  • @rhattabew
    @rhattabew Рік тому +10

    Heads up about the UNICLR update, they actually released it for free, automatically updating all copies of UNIST (the previous version of the game) and all future versions. It was only londrekia (the new character) that you had to buy. IIRC, even on PS4, instead of saying UNICLR on the home icon it still says UNIST, at least last time I checked on my PS4.

    • @ViApp0
      @ViApp0 Рік тому +2

      I also don't get the segment about previous MB games being re-releases like SF. Some of them are, but the original and Re-Act have the branching story mode, while Act Cadenza has tag team and 2v2 modes absent from other versions.

  • @elite9237
    @elite9237 Рік тому +7

    What did I pay 70 dollars for? Was it just the art book? WAS IT JUST THR ART BOOK!? PLEASE TELL ME IT WASN'T JUST THE ART BOOK

    • @MokonaModokiES
      @MokonaModokiES Рік тому +6

      and the soundtrack of the game(including the menu and story music) with some of the remasters of old melty from the preference of raito

    • @Zadamanim
      @Zadamanim 11 місяців тому

      i wish the art book would have been unlockable content in the game because i have so many points and nothing to spend them on :(

  • @megalobsterface3552
    @megalobsterface3552 Рік тому +5

    "The season pass is what fighting games at large have decided on"
    Uh, excuse you, Multiversus is actually using a free-to-play battle pass system where each individual character *at launch* is like $5, where you have to grind for not only FOMO skins, but voice packs, profile icons, taunts, and a bunch of other shit that no one cares about in the first place, let alone things that should cost money, all so you can brag about spending more time and money on the game where Garnet is white and the Iron Giant is punching a Rickenmorty in the face!
    ...oh you said "fighting game," not "ugly piece of shit gambling game" my bad

    • @gregvs.theworld451
      @gregvs.theworld451 Рік тому +1

      I agree with 99.99 percent of your criticism here but Garnet is white? Bruh what?

    • @megalobsterface3552
      @megalobsterface3552 Рік тому

      @@gregvs.theworld451 this is the least reported on issue with the game. Garnet on the red team or whatever, the default costume when assigned red colors by the game, is whitewashed. Video Games Chronicle showed it once, but ive seen virtually no buzz about this trash heap making one of the most well known black cartoon characters ever white for no reason
      legit think VGC is the only website that shows this, cannot find a single other image of it outside of live footage. maybe they patched it out but i doubt it lmao, ive seen virtually no one even notice.
      Cannot stress enough for those who havent seen tho, they make her Caucasian. This is not a slightly paler palette, they color picked an egg for this poor girl

  • @MokonaModokiES
    @MokonaModokiES Рік тому +4

    there is some misinfo here. They never said they were limited time. It was misinterpretation from "Free dlc decision" that was just bad translaation of "We decided to make the characters free".

  • @reilly5005
    @reilly5005 Рік тому +17

    0:11 for those questioning this, click the read more button but I will say TRIGGER WARNING FOR RAPE AND CHILD ABUSE.
    So Kohaku and Hisui initially had each others personalities with Kohaku being the silent one and Hisui being the energetic one. This is because their family had this ability to give each other energy and Makihasa Tohno (Shiki and Akiha’s dad) needed to keep control of his body because reasons I won’t go into and abused this by raping Kohaku as a child since apparently sex was the strongest method of energy transfer. Eventually, she got more freedom and stopped getting raped, but had to take care of SHIKI (spelled with Kanji in JP, spelled with all caps in English, different from the Shiki we normally know) who was imprisoned for reasons I won’t get into. However SHIKI needed to keep his body under composure for the same reasons as his dad, so he also ended up raping Kohaku. Kohaku after having enough ended up drugging and brainwashing SHIKI so she wouldn’t get raped anymore. Akiha and Hisui later learn of what happened to Kohaku and she gets turned into a regular maid instead of basically a sex slave by Akiha and Hisui says that she will “take on her role” of being the silent one so Kohaku can at least try to be happy
    So TL:DR, Kohaku got raped by 2 different people as a child and Hisui said “hey I’ll be the sad one so you can try to be happy for once”

    • @EzKay_PX
      @EzKay_PX Рік тому +3

      I will never look at the Akiha Vs Kohaku/Hisui match up the same way ever again- holy fuck

    • @reilly5005
      @reilly5005 Рік тому

      @@Wolfedge75 gonna be honest I haven’t even read Tsukihime, I just paraphrased the Wiki lol

    • @Wolfedge75
      @Wolfedge75 Рік тому +1

      @@reilly5005 Give the manga a shot. It's damn good (though the maids lore aren't even touched upon there)

  • @thegouge4284
    @thegouge4284 Рік тому +7

    Skullgirls actually had a similar "dlc" cycle back in the day where the new character would be free for a month, and then you'd have to pay for them after that initial month

  • @WantSomeWhiskey818
    @WantSomeWhiskey818 Рік тому +8

    Tsukihime RULES and having a dope fighter attached is even better, Im a huge fan of both

    • @NrettG
      @NrettG Рік тому

      I still have hope that the remake will get that english translation and release here in the west. Otherwise the original with the english fan translation is really damn good. Honestly all of Tsukihime is just really damn good. Visual Novels don't really get me but I could spend days purely reading this though.

  • @alejandrogomez1698
    @alejandrogomez1698 Рік тому +6

    I love these devs. Also the single player content in this game keeps getting expanded for free which is insane.

  • @boredomkiller99
    @boredomkiller99 Рік тому +15

    DA Noelle is in the game because Melty blood is advertisment for the Tsukihime Remake. She looks like that because when Noelle became a vampire she reverted to a physical age when she was last truly happy which if you know Noelle's back story she hasn't been happy in a long time.
    Note apparently her design was instructed to look like she is in the wrong place at the wrong time which is why her design stands out (for better or for worse) among the rest of the characters. So yeah if her design feels weird or cringe, mission accomplished.

    • @jordanguelbert7754
      @jordanguelbert7754 Рік тому +2

      Also. Trap setting is fun, her combos have fun tempo shifts, and I very rarely have to worry about my magic gaudge because most of the time the optimal use is ending a combo with 214C and committing Okizeme war crimes.

  • @CobaltKitty
    @CobaltKitty Рік тому +3

    Haha, that's a good joke at the start about those Maids, I'm gonna look up what their story is out of curiosity.
    ...Oh
    oh no

  • @third-ratedude4234
    @third-ratedude4234 Рік тому +2

    No, no, no, the weirdest thing about MBTL is how they buffed Vlov with every single update. Like why? I HATE IT

  • @darfosproducion
    @darfosproducion Рік тому +3

    I mean, FUCKING RUGAL (that's his full name) was free dlc in kof 15 and he looks like fun

  • @BrawlerGamma
    @BrawlerGamma Рік тому +4

    The thing is, this is probably the better long-term business move, too. Fighting games have a lot of room grow, and even if there's a limit on how much they reasonably could, lowering the barrier to entry and the roadblocks to sticking with it can help maintain an active community which drives more sales, and fosters customer loyalty in the long run. And like, not even by using the really scummy tactics corporations love to use nowadays; just by being like... genuinely cool.
    Like, I have plenty of criticisms of how money-hungry corporations are, but the thing that kills me is, there *are* ways to be just as, if not *more* profitable long-term that involve like... doing right by your customers... and they almost *never, fucking, do it.* Opting instead to throw consumers into the woodchipper for fast cash. And then wonder gormlessly why anyone would think they should all be fucking hanged.

    • @dominiccasts
      @dominiccasts Рік тому

      It probably is, but unfortunately with the bigger companies a lot of the incentive is to keep stock valuations high, and apparently the pattern is (or at least was, finance seems to move real fast) to drop a company's stock as soon as its rise stops accelerating. That is, not when it starts to go down, but when it stops going up as quickly as it had been, which means every publicly traded company is very incentivized to think short term because otherwise their investors will sell, removing the company's ability to raise funds through stock sales (due to the lower price for it, on account of the selling) and making it vulnerable to another company buying it outright because its stock is now pennies on the dollar, meaning they have much less of a long term to even consider.

  • @Captain.Mystic
    @Captain.Mystic Рік тому +3

    I think the idea that a money grabber being used to fund another game was the entire reason gacha was even defended in the first place. Its become sadly common for games(or any media for that matter) to be vehicles to fund themselves and grow the company alone rather than diverse experiences able to support each other and still make a profit. Seeing melty blood as an actual example of this gives me hope that Project Moon does the same thing and doesn't get swallowed into the abyss after experiencing the temptation.

  • @amia7z
    @amia7z Рік тому +11

    wake up babe Gekko dropped a Melty video
    ah don't you just love seeing someone react to Nasuverse lore? It's truly beautiful without how much this drives someone insane.
    Gotta also remember besides the F/GO money, the game sold a lot more than expected at launch, and French Bread has like, 20 employees so they don't really have that many people to give salaries to.

  • @FrigolitBAWS
    @FrigolitBAWS Рік тому +1

    i see that the game is on 50% sale rn and im interested to buy it
    but im afraid as a steam EU player i won't be able to really find matches outside of discord.
    are there any non-god rank players left?
    game looks super cool tho especially the dracula guy

  • @fortepiano4491
    @fortepiano4491 Рік тому +1

    Meanwhile the Xbox community having terrible netcode across generations: 👍

  • @puxtbuck6731
    @puxtbuck6731 Рік тому +3

    I’m excited about project L but I’m worried what it will do to this genre.

  • @tron0150
    @tron0150 Рік тому +1

    7:00 Because: read the visual novel!

  • @Howardpower679
    @Howardpower679 Рік тому +1

    Type lumina is a tsukihime remake spin off everything new here like noel and da noel its from it's remake

  • @yesitsme1214
    @yesitsme1214 Рік тому +2

    Man I love melty blood and it's so nice that they give us more characters

  • @SaltySynapse
    @SaltySynapse Рік тому +3

    The thing is that this should be a standard thing with all full priced games, its quite sad that we have all grown normalized to full priced games charging us more money to buy a character.

    • @markjack9772
      @markjack9772 Рік тому +1

      You're right because development time is free

    • @SaltySynapse
      @SaltySynapse Рік тому

      @@markjack9772 or maybe just release the game all at once, we are paying full price you know

    • @markjack9772
      @markjack9772 Рік тому +1

      @@SaltySynapse they do we're talking about additional content
      And currently if fighting games don't get updates regularly people will not play them

    • @SaltySynapse
      @SaltySynapse Рік тому

      @@markjack9772 ok free updates then, a full priced game has no monetary necessity to make dlc, they have more than enough money.

    • @markjack9772
      @markjack9772 Рік тому

      @@SaltySynapse so you're saying is you don't want fighting games to come up with additional characters and you also think that updates take additional development time

  • @-Fraud
    @-Fraud Рік тому +1

    But melty blood, play melty blood, enjoy melty blood.

  • @2ndThought_
    @2ndThought_ Рік тому +2

    0:11 Maid lore... :Despair:

  • @chidori7234
    @chidori7234 Рік тому +1

    Free DLC in a world where larger companies charge you for even the in-game frame data...
    French Based

  • @treedude4246
    @treedude4246 Рік тому +1

    Why do the maids act like that...

    • @kodakazu8
      @kodakazu8 Рік тому +1

      The cheerful one, Kohaku, was subject to the r word repeatedly by the former head of the Tohno family when she was really young. When Hisui found out they essentially switched swapped personalities out of depression.

  • @3R9Sasuke
    @3R9Sasuke Рік тому +1

    I might be misremembering but I kinda remember Kamone just saying that the game blew past all expectations so far that they could finance the DLC and give it for free. It was on the Steam front page when it came out.

  • @Ver2ion
    @Ver2ion Рік тому

    yeah characters shouldnt be a paywall it makes competitive play better , its like soulcalbur banned characters that were only playable by certain machines, it feels the same with dlc characters and just unfair.

  • @swagboibrad8341
    @swagboibrad8341 Рік тому +1

    Jesus Neco-arc basically just revied a genre

    • @cycy8699
      @cycy8699 Рік тому

      we are all at its mercy

  • @djukor
    @djukor Рік тому +1

    Technically SFV let you unlock characters using in game currency. At first getting the currency was so easy and fast the first 6 characters might as well have bean free.
    Or if you actually bought the first character pass the second one would be free. (I managed to get the first 2 character passes for free and latter also unlocked Kage and Seth for free).
    Eventually capcom nerfed how much in game currency you could get but at the same time made the game quite cheap to get over time.

  • @DuvJones
    @DuvJones Рік тому

    Actually... no offence, @GekkoSquirrel... but this video is a lie. Let me explain....
    First, let's be real about what this game IS. It's a pretty sweaty fan service game. Not in the "sex sells" department, not much anyway.... but in the "'Everyone' in here, let brawl" department. Melty Blood has always had this self-referential spirit to it and BOY is that polished here. I mean Ushi is in a body suit, Nero Chaos is GONE? Mashu in in the game, Saber is here, Red Arc is in the "Duster", FGO looms in the background of the character select screen, Every single character has a reference to it's NasuVerse source material to some degree (at times down to the fame).
    Yeah.... it's alot of service for the person that consumes all things Nasuverse, especially Tsukihime but clearly not limited to that. It's one of several reasons that it rather niche.
    Second... Look, this game has to make dosh at some point and the cold reality is that a $60-70 game that tends to be put to firesale A LOT (outside of the seasonal sales, FB tend to put the game to sale in and around a IRL Major tournaments), that is just not enough. Last that I was told, about 3-4 years ago, FB was a 70-person outfit.... that is 70 people whom are on that payroll, whom have lives outside of coding the next game. A number that is likely higher in 2023. Yeah, that isn't enough but to add to that tension is us. The Melty community is simply not going to stand for a game that charges players for the characters that they might like. Outside of Melty this tends to be frown upon (yet we put up with it), but Melty? The community cracked the game.... when they didn't have access to it, when it was not up to our standards.... I think that FB was well aware of what would happen if they tried to do that.
    Third, and let me be extremely clear here..... French Bread doesn't *MAKE* Fate/Grand Order. They have never been involved with that project, the only thing that Melty Blood Type Lumina and FGO share is a publisher: Lasengle (formally DelightWorks) and that is likely for the rights to the NasuVerse characters which Lasengle has from TypeMoon. That said, don't assume that FB has access to the money that FGO makes because again, they were NEVER involved. So the money that Type Lumina makes has to be it's own.
    So, if they are not charging for the characters, they have to make some dosh to keep the lights on, their are no real bail outs, with a fanbase that WILL consume fan service: How does Type Lumina make it's money? By charging you real money for EVERYTHING ELSE. Want to change the announcers to your favourite character? Take out that Credit Card. Want a photo gallery of the game? Got paypal?
    Now to be fair to FB, they are not charging you for absolutely everything... They easily could have locked it's unlockables behind a paywall, but didn't. And I can make a guess to why.... the community would not stand for it if they did and I have seen others try, it doesn't go over well (Modern GundamVS game ports are REALLY bad for this and without that franchise behind it, I doubt they would get away with it or StreetFighter X Tekken.... remember that one?). That said, note that the things they are selling.... fan service. They are not the only ones to do it, BlazBlue is the first that I have seen with this tend (which happens to a lot of ASW/Team Red games as of late) and far from the last. If I am to make a guess, anything outside of a story mode that is just fluff that makes the heart grow fonder with the characters or the game itself? I bet you they will charge for it.
    Is Type Lumina a good deal, yeah... it is. Because if you don't really care for the above (and most Fighting game players don't), then you get all the things that you care about for $70, maximum but the truth is that I can't say that this is the best thing since sliced bread. Type Lumina has to make it's money and if I am to be honest here, it a little sad that being the causual fan is more demanding that one become the whaled super-fan. Type Lumina isn't changing any of that, personally it's ok... I don't need the photo galery, and voices would be nice but I KNOW alot of work is put into that and $3 for what I want isn't much but as this game grows, this is going to get worse. The thing that Melty Players are going to have to confide about is that if we want to stop the bathroom jokes, it can't just be us.... the things that I am bugging about aren't for a player like me, it's fan service for the casual player and we could always use more players.

  • @karayi7239
    @karayi7239 Рік тому

    "omg they give new characters for free" when it's a full priced competitive game just shows how HORRIBLE the monetization is.
    The fighting game monetization is absolutely DOGSHIT compared to any other competitive game genre.
    Can't wait for riot to come out with a F2P huge game and be more profitable than the top 5 fighting games combined.

  • @kirby2567
    @kirby2567 Рік тому +1

    In addition, I think they went on record to say the game performed well beyond expectations sales-wise and the free content is sort of a "thank you" to the community

  • @whimzycloud
    @whimzycloud Рік тому +1

    UNICLR was actually a free update if you already own the previous game.

  • @Sanjixoxo
    @Sanjixoxo 10 місяців тому

    Actress Again clears this mid ass game

  • @jordanhammond176
    @jordanhammond176 Рік тому

    You really got sponsored just to make memes about a game you don't even play, I could beat you blindfolded

  • @lukelmaooooo
    @lukelmaooooo Рік тому

    btw type lumina is part of the tsukihime remake series which is far better and less sus than the OG (still kinda sus tho)

  • @casewargaming6432
    @casewargaming6432 Рік тому

    Lumina rules, my favorite fighting game. BUY ITTTTTTTTTTT

  • @nahuumchristians3299
    @nahuumchristians3299 11 місяців тому

    Yall is it still free? Because i checked the microsoft store and the dlc's have prices

  • @_d0ser
    @_d0ser Рік тому

    "NeKo iS TaKiNG a SpOt!" Shut up. Play melty.

  • @MiraiMemento
    @MiraiMemento Рік тому

    Music at 4:48?

  • @HER0333
    @HER0333 Рік тому

    The GOAT 🐐 of Monte Cristo

  • @Tsunami14
    @Tsunami14 Рік тому

    Tekken Tag 2 has entered the chat..

  • @Antifrost
    @Antifrost Рік тому

    ARMS is another game that added five characters and stages completely for free. Apparently the game had a patch as recently as November of 2022, which seemed to be only fixing stability issues and had no balance changes or content added, but it proves that someone at Nintendo is still paying attention to the game. As a reminder, this game was released three months after the Switch came out.
    More on-topic, I've actually seen many negative comments in light of the recent two characters being Fate ones rather than being from Tsukihime. I bought the game because Mash was added, so you can probably guess where I fall on that divide.

  • @yellowduckgamedev
    @yellowduckgamedev Рік тому

    burenyuu

  • @Lykrast
    @Lykrast Рік тому

    Dota 2 releases new characters for free. Overwatch did it... until Overwatch 2... kinda not sure how that one works. Apex Legends kinda does but it depends on if you count "around 40h worth of in game currency (or use money)" as free or not. Warframe it's similar where it's usually behind "farm the new content that we also just added (or pay to skip)". Bloons Tower Defense 6 lets you get new (and old) heroes with in game currency that's very easy to get.
    I could also technically count Genshin Impact cause you can get enough f2p premium currency to get new characters, but unlike those other f2p title where it's "money or grind" the characters release much faster than you can f2p grind them for.
    Ok I don't have a point I just wanted to see how many "games that give new characters for free" I could find. But even then, if you don't count "requires grinding some currency" as "free" (since that's a time cost), then I just have Dota 2. Those are 100% free, and similarly Valve is surfing on big Steam money (and all the cosmetic lootboxes they sell).

  • @bulldogmicro4279
    @bulldogmicro4279 Рік тому

    The only other game I have seen do this is UNIST when it upgraded to UNICLR. Free moves and a balance update, the new character did cost money tho. FrenchBread also made that game too haha.

  • @gamingghost6029
    @gamingghost6029 Рік тому +1

    Wait why does the maid act like that?

  • @Kopalex23
    @Kopalex23 Рік тому

    Free characters post-release is certainly rare. I think I can only come up with two other examples when it comes to big series, with KoF XV adding Rugal (and soon Gönitz), then there was SSBU that put Piranha Plant in there.
    But yeah, pretty rare. Maybe Multiversus sort of counts, but that game is F2P to begin with. I don't remember what the new characters cost in that recent Nickelodeon platform fighter, possibly nothing as well.

  • @zachstarattack7320
    @zachstarattack7320 Рік тому

    the weirdest thing is that nanaya isnt in it

    • @chkatsu
      @chkatsu Рік тому

      Because the 2nd part of tsukihime remake isnt out yet

  • @MDagonic
    @MDagonic Рік тому

    you forgot one thing about the fate money.
    And that is the fact that the Player counts after the last 3 characters did rise quite a bit. yeah it dropped down again....
    But I strongly believe that if they add MORE FGO waifus that they sell games the moment a favorite waifu get's added.
    No... I would not buy type lumina if they add Nobunaga... NO... (pls Nobunaga next)