(Audio compression) Using A Limiter On Bass | How To Get An Even Sound
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- (Audio compression) Using A Limiter On Bass | How To Get An Even Sound
Puremix Mentor Andrew Scheps shows us how to get an even bass sound using a limiter. Audio compression on a bass guitar is necessary to even the low and high notes. Push against the ceiling instead of pushing the peaks down.
This video will provide you guidance about what to listen for when using a compressor. It will also help sharpen your critical listening skills when trying for that transparent Pro sound.
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He explains things so well!
For real. He does a good job providing substance and he's able to articulate his decision process pretty well.
You're the first man, who could explain what's the difference between a compressor and a limiter... thank you 👍🏻
It’s always nice to see someone get straight to the point
I deal with limiting much more than compressors and this explanation absolutely was a lightbulb moment.
Intuitive explanation
"...and then you just move on from there". love that ending
I'm keeping this in mind next time I'm mixing bass!
I tried this with flamenco guitars and it works wonders, many years serving for this sound and finally very happy!
I love Andrew Schepps-he's taken the fear out of mixing.
Excellent Philip!!!
guy melts my brain every time
I did not realize the L2 could level a real bass without degrade so perfectly. Just tried this plugin out and works perfectly. I was searching a long time for a plugin that could do this without degrade.
Thank you, this should be sticked everywhere.
Everywhere?
Andrew is so awesome! He's one of the only mixers worth listening to out here. Thanks for sharing.
Andrew is a GREAT teacher, thank you so much!!
Man, that was great advice...I really appreciate that. Bass and low- end instruments are pretty to keep consistent! Thanks again!
So brilliantly explained. Thank you so much. Just what i was looking for.
Excellent glad you found this helpful
Thanks Andrew!
I appreciate this content greatly! I can see where this method would be helpful in evening-out 808 bass tracks as well. Thanks!!!
Just had my aha moment! Thank you.
This video opened my mind
The music production community is grateful for you, Andrew. Thanks so much!
Andrew Schepps is the master of his trade - I've known about these things for nearly 15 years, and I've given dynamics a lot of thought and painstakingly listened over and over again to pros in the business talk about these things, and so I knew everything Andrew said before he said it, but I still haven't heard an explanation with that amount of substance and understanding that gives a much clearer mental picture relative to todays subject matter... I think the best teachers show you their thought process and their philosophy in simple terms, and it's pretty clear Andrew is one of the very best at that!
How did the professional engineers compress the bass, what attacks, ratios and releases did they use?
Always use your ears but try rendering out the audio so you can see the difference its made. Then you can A/B the unlimited bass with the limited bass and hear the difference. Make sure you set the levels of the new rendered limited bass to peak at the same level as the unlimited.
L2 is my Go 2!
Excellent idea, to use a 2nd track and compress it all to hell - then blend the two!...
I'll definitely have yo try this approach!
Thanks for the tip, maestro 🙏😎🙏
Beautiful lesson! Thanks, professor!
Exactly answered my question my man AS thnx much
Scheps is mixing god
Great explanations, thank you
The Master
So helpful, great insight!
I parallel limit and sometimes parallel linit my vocals and mix to taste
limiters are secret weapons man
Thank You!!!
Pleasure! Right between you and us, we have more to come with Mr Scheps ;) keep your eyes peeled for next
Great video
this is excellent advice
Andrew has a pocket full of advice!!
Thanks for the quick tip - that was VERY helpful and right on point! :)
Thank you for your feedback , you should join the puremixers group on FB sure you will find some recommendations on this - cheers
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A little question: is there any recommendations for attack and release when usin a limiter on the bass?
I guess it depends on the song - but is there a good way to go?
Cool
Thank u
GREAT ADVICE
Limiting is basically compression 100:1
Use a compressor if needed less cutting
Try parallel compression to get best of both, natural and dynamic control
Try using the 3 and build up a library of when to use what type for a particular sound and outcome.
Legend
Free Julian Assange! Great tutorial man!
Bless u
Nice video! Quick question. When playing live I lose the popped notes a little when playing slap bass. Would a limiter help with this?
wAW! Great explanation!!!!!
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Good video!
The Waves MV2 is always a good option on bass guitar as well.
I heard that a lot of times, too.
Would you say that the result is "more or less" the same?
I think bass is so difficult to grasp initially because it’s really not what our ears are tuned to hear. Sure, midrange is a beast but at least you can easily key in on the difference between 400hz and 800hz. Compare that to managing energy in the 40-80hz range…you’re barely in the same perceptual ballpark.
Fast attack or slow attack
Awesome! How do you like the Unity Audio Boulder MKII's? I'm looking to upgrade my Focal Trio's to Focal SM9's or Unity Audio Boulder MKIII's.
A slab of bass! Yes, please!
Please explain to me how a track peaking at -0.2 db fits into the whole "gain staging" gospel I keep hearing about.
This might just be for effect to demonstrate the limiter but I think what's happening is this one particular track (left side of the screen, RE AMP B) is pushed as hot as it can get and because he's using a brick wall limiter you don't need any headroom for the peaks, so -0.2 is ok, you just need to stay under 0 to avoid distortion. You are only hearing this one track in the example but it is one of 4 different bass tracks that are getting mixed together, I'd assume this is to create a parallel compression effect. I suppose he'll pay more attention to the level of the bass buss as far as leaving some headroom.
It fits in by using the fader.
There are multiple places to gain-stage. You can reduce the ceiling within the limiter, you can reduce the plugin's output, you can reduce the signal on a subsequent plugin, or you can use the track fader. And dude, if you think managing your music volume is some sort of cult-ish "gospel", go read a book on the basics.
hey thanks for the info! still have some questions though. Im using a mxr studio comp for my bass, but im having trouble getting it to do what I want. I play fairly heavy music with moderate to heavy bass distortion but have issues with level I believe more than anything else. where some notes ring out much louder than others. from watching this is it safe to assume I would be better suited to a limiter? I do enjoy the dynamics I get from using the comp, it adds a punchiness. would increasing my ratio on the pedal perhaps get me closer in the limiter ball park? sorry for the all over the place question. great vid! cheers
Try splitting the bass into upper and lower frequencies and limit only the lower ones until all notes sound even level wise
fuck you are intelligent. thanks mate
Only Limiter or do you have to accompany it with a Compressor?
No offense, that question shows you didn't understand the video. Watch it again, he's explaining when you'd want to use insert limiter, or comp, or either of those in parallel, specifically depending on how much you want to retain the original character of the source material.
I have been doing this for 2 years and this is first time anyone has told me that a limiter is just a brickwall compressor
the more I use my ears, the less sense all the dynamic processing makes. obviously you have spiking transients sometimes you have to get under the hood. but in this example for example only distortion and noise was added.
You can hear he sits in a perfectly treated room
Cool tip but that mix at the end is horridly compressed crushed and distorted.
No surprise because he is the mixing engineer of Metallica's Death Magnetic.
I can't stand videos that don't show how they're specifically using the compressor. The concept isn't hard at all to understand. I just like to see how guys who "know what they're doing" use the compressor, like how much compression exactly do they use. Explaining the concept behind compression is easy, telling people how to use it (and how not to) is a little more complicated.
How about trying it out and using your ears
Ridiculous comment
Also a limiter has a 0ms attack time
not all
Time to put some compression on that beard, and hair.
Wut?
To me the matter is: what's the easiest way to mix so i can release the goddamn song asap without a headache and no coffee lol...
God?
sounds terrible