@@oliver-04no he really didn’t. He missed a win in an endgame that Magnus also missed while in extreme time pressure. Outside of that the largest advantage was 1.4 which wasn’t winning
@@patheticpear2897 Not necessarily, but I think that the level of skill and dedication of the top players is easily underestimated by a relative patzer with a chess engine or eval bar, that these people make up the majority of the online audience, and that this inevitably leads to top players receiving unwarranted criticism about their chess skills from people who aren't really qualified to make such judgments. I'm not necessarily excluding myself from this category either! 😅
Regarding the world's longest flights (25:50 onward), when measured by great circle distance, Singapore to New York-JFK is in fact the longest flight in the world (and Singapore to Newark is number two by a negligible difference). But both of these often take longer routes over the Pacific and Atlantic in order to take advantage of jet streams/tailwinds. Additionally, because of certain countries' airlines not being allowed to (or choosing to avoid) certain other countries' airspace, especially since 2022, some flights are now significantly longer than before; some of the most-affected are European airlines flying to and from east Asia (e.g. the Swiss flight from Tokyo to Zurich, which flies nearly 8000 miles instead of a little over 6000; this is still shorter than Singapore-NYC, but a very significant difference).
Fabi is so nice, humble, and cool. I guess if Chess made the kind of money that football is making then we won't have this type of access to a world #2 legend.. although we may.. at least in Basketball, folks like LeBron have their own podcasts and are directly connecting to the fans, sharing their insights on how they read the game. Anyway, thankful for the content man!
He is incredibly thoughtful (speed-thinking of course;) when he answers questions esp about other people & he remains one of thee most authentic people on the planet. Also very generous with his time on #csqpod. Must be exhausted. I don't think more money would change him either ... he's already attained millions & hasn't changed. Fabulous Fabi.
I just have this feeling that Ding will be surprising people. I don't know if it will be enough for him to win the match but I just... believe in him somehow.
Didn't know this would count as a podcast since I watch the vids rather than listen to them on YT music, but somehow it still made it to my top podcast of the year with only 11h 🤔 Not that I'm complaining!
"BLUNDERRRRRRRR" might make sense if something is truly egregious (like Ian's ...f5) but the constant unwelcome exclaimations in chess do get very tiring
54:26 it's almost like fabi predicted his last 960 game with Magnus. The people in chat going mad because they saw the eval go up and down, meanwhile the master commentators couldn't even explain what was good and bad about the position without blundering themselves.
It was not just evaluation going up. It was table base win on multiple occasions, so it is not just theoretical, he had multiple chances to win. Difficult, but was it more difficult than Magnus's task to defend for a draw?
@@patheticpear2897 thank you for proving fabis point and then changing the subject showing how right fabi was that the chess audience think they can criticise freely simply because they can see a eval bar they have zero understanding of.
I don't think it's fair to say he's had 4 years of bad form when he barely played for 3 of those years and still won the world championship match during that time. Like I get he may already not have been at his absolute best in 2022-2023, but this year was much worse. In his last interview in English he talked about how much he's been affected by the losing streak he's had this year specifically. He said this is the first time in his career he's gone 20+ games of classical without a win, and this is an incredibly frustrating time in his career for that to be happening. I don't think the explanation is all that complicated, it's just pure tilt.
Surprised Fabi isn't staying in Singapore for the world championship, I figured I'll have a chance to maybe meet him there. LOL. But thanks for the podcast and the great games in the freestyle chess!
One of the reasons I became interested in my chess in my mid-twenties is because of watching Fabi, Magnus, Ding, Levon, etc. and being in awe of how incredible their play is. I always will be.
I sorta agree with Hikaru. I believe Fabi will qualify for the next 3 candidates, but he is not gonna be the favorite to win or likely to finish top3 in the last one. Also I dont see Hans surpassing Fabi in the next 5 years and I will risk it saying even in the next 10 years.
@csqpod Just because Fabi claims he doesn't understand tennis, that's not right. With physical activity, we know that these athletes are amazing. You can see a Federer or an Alcaraz make amazing shots that you don't see lesser players making. You can see that the very best players get out of trouble by hitting an ace or an improbably winner when they are down triple break point. In chess, at the highest level, I can't tell why a certain move is good without someone explaining it, and even then, I don't get it. By contrast, a player watching tennis for a year can at least appreciate just how fast the players move, how hard the ball is hit. Physical attributes are much easier to see. Chess, by contrast, can come down to one bad error and the game is lost. In almost all sports, that doesn't happen. If you build a lead, you have a lead. Tennis, at least, has sets, so a 6-0 first set doesn't mean a blowout in the second set. But if you build a 30 point lead in basketball, you can't lose that lead with one mistake. There's no 30 point penalty that allows the other team to catch up. In chess, that can happen. Leads are precarious. That's why chess has a hard time getting viewers who will pay. Where it somehow succeeds is bad players of chess (like me) still find some perverse fascination to follow it. We're rare, but it makes a lot of the chess audience. We need the eval bar to even kind of enjoy it, but we still care. The commentary does a lot. Think of Ding's win over Nepo in the last Worlds. Fabi was in on that commentary and everyone though it would end in a draw, and it didn't. The commentary made it exciting and allowed beginners to basically follow along.
This comment is soooo accurate. I'm also questioning if the very top level is what we should watch. I'm a football (soccer) fan, and if I watch a second-division game and then a Champions League game, even though the second division players are still much better football players than I am, I can clearly see the difference of level and quality. For chess, that's not so much the case. I noticed this when they started covering the women's categories of tournaments in livestreams. Not only are those 2400-2500 players so much better than any amateur, but their games are also more fun to follow. I think this is also why people love the old world champions and their games so much. I think that by going one tier down, we can find much more joy in it. It feels like modern super GM chess is seriously too much for us.
Don't read the youtube comments under an NFL recap game, Fabi. Everyone shit talks every play there even though each and every NFL player is an absolute beast.
The s--t talking is a problem of the internet in general and coverage specifically. It's not inevitable at all. It depends on how it's covered, whether it's moderated, what voices are elevated etc. The Evil Bar.
Regarding lack of awareness of typical viewers…this is a consequence of confusing “growing the audience” with “growing the game.” Spending more time discussing the game, restricting commentator use of engines, and eliminating carnival barking will no doubt decrease total viewership, but those who do watch will be greatly rewarded. And “serious” players (anyone who plays in rated events regardless of rating) will thank you!
Love the podcast, but can you guys get Fabi a better mic? Or change some settings? The „c” and „s” sounds are very distinct and cut through other sounds way too much.
What if instead of an eval bar, there was just a "+- (White is winning)" or a "-= (Black is somewhat better)" on the screen? If ppl want to complain about knowing who's winning, they get that indicator, but then 0.2 vs. 0.4 doesn't get a frenzy.
There's a parallell universe out there where instead of doing Chess, Fabi would become a world-famous battle rapper. We can infer this from the absolutely brutal yet demure and polite ways he has eviscerated us mere mortals with his kind yet destructive words.
I can feel fabi but he needs to change his psychological mindset and i guess this is the only difference among top players i mean if u see lets say magnus, for him anything other than a win is unacceptable for audience he recieves 10x more troll, hate and applause. But dude is cold and even doesnt stops trolling and even enjoys playing the format he wants not caring about what people would think about him so overall u just need to enjoy the game not care about people thats it. So much love for u❤❤
Timing y'all 😂😂😂 I can't tell if it's amazingly good or poor. Fabi's live freestyle game JUST wrapped and y'all finally drop a new video an hour earlier
Freestyle chess is not going to gain any popularity with people like Fabiano. He spent most of the time defending and talking about classical chess, than talking about how freestyle chess could be a very relevant and popular variant that can coexist with classical chess. Magnus should have picked someone who is actually passionate about it. Players like Fabi and Anish who spent the majority of their life learning openings are probably not the ideal brand ambassadors for the new variant.
All professional chess players spent their whole life studying regular chess, including Magnus himself. Who is that "someone" that he should have picked?
What happened to karjaken ? I really dk anything about him other than that he was the world champion challenger once and then apparently he disappeared?
Please, for the love of all that is holy, if you two have any power in the chess world, please - please stop Danny and Maurice from calling standard chess "518". Thank you for listening.
@52:00 Never trash spectators, this is what they do, this is how they enjoy the game. The criticism, the trash talk, etc.. people may not understand chess like you do but without all they do there is no you or chess. Bye bye
Fabi needs to remove his ego from this - Ding not done anything significant in 4 years - I thought he beat Jan over 14 classical games and playoff - Now Ding under the most intense pressure wins with the black pieces in Game 1🙂
4:03 looks like SG was a downgrade if they had money in a suitcase for Germany 😂 the massive cardboard checks in SG felt like a cheesy lottery winner at best, HR handing out paychecks at worst. Plus the wildly swinging cameras, hot mics, live camera feed backstage... Hot mess.
And obviously no monkey or chess board/pieces or the oponent would exist for infinite time. It is not an experiment that people want to test in reality
Fabi NEVER misses an opportunity to point out Ding's weak performance. Can't help feeling like he's bitter about that loss to him in the 2022 Madrid Candidates
Everyone is talking about Ding´s bad performances. He didn´t say anything shocking. He also said at the end that Ding is nice and it is impossible to dislike him. The 30 percent winning chance was not to bad considering his results since the last world championship. The prediction was before Ding won game 1. Obviously that changed a lot.
Fabi is kinda wrong tho, theres tonnes of armchair sports fans who do yell and call LeBron or whoever dogshit just cause they miss a shot. Its just these idiots spew a lot of shit, and more sane people arent nearly as vocal.
Why? It was obvious that Gukesh is the fovourite. I think that is objective. Of course now that Ding has won the first game, things have changed but Fabi couldn´t now that
Fabi was much closer to Number one than Ding was. He also has the higher Peak rating (2844 vs 2816) and he was number two much longer than Ding. Ding on is Peak is a great player. Ding between the last world championship and the current one, was on a much lower level. He dropped out of the top 20! The last time Fabi dropped out of the top 10 was when he was 20 years old. Fabi also didn´t say anything mean about Ding. 30 winning chances was not bad considering his and Gukesh´d form in the last 1.5 years.
It's a misconception to think that chess fans have no idea what's going on. Having the engine evaluation and lines doesn't just tell you *that* there's an advantage, if you have even intermediate chess skills you can understand *why* the advantage exists pretty easily, and they also have expert commentators to help with that. Sometimes y'all talk like you need to be a titled player to even understand on a basic level what's going on in a grandmaster game and that's just not true. Anyone who plays chess regularly is gonna understand a lot of the nuances without being told because playing ability is not the same as the ability to analyze or appreciate someone else's game with significant outside assistance. Having engine analysis also makes the average viewer's understanding of the game categorically different from their understanding of a sport like Tennis or Basketball where there is no totally (or at least near-totally) objective basis for analysis.
Great podcast.. but I completely disagree with Fabi in the last part. I follow football and cricket, and these fans are ruthless when it comes to criticism. Chess fans are far more sane than them.. 😅
Facts. Disgusting how Fabi continues to spread subjectively incorrect analysis on Ding because he is salty that Ding is the world champion from his own generation. Not the first time Fabi is not objective on matters and undermines Ding's accomplishments. "Ok, he had a good second half of the 2021 candidates".. fr? He was phenomenal. Crushed you to do it. "I don't think he played that great in candidates 2022". Ok, also crushed you to do it. And Hikaru. Only reason he didnt actually win was due solely to Nepo in round 1. Keep crying. Ding, regardless of result in this year's championship, will still have done 2 things you have not. Play a WCC twice and Winning at least one. Oh and also in the history books for 100 games unbeaten at the top level. A feat you will probably never pass for the rest of your career. Now THAT is objective. And thinking Ding is not 'much' better than Gukesh at faster time controls is a joke. Ding almost beat Hikaru in the speed chess championship, and was at one point ranked 1 in rapid and ranked 1 in blitz. He literally won the WCC in tiebreaks that was in Rapid, and arguably Blitz after Rg1. Cope.
We England football fans call the players and manager utter crap on a play by play basis even though they reached two back to back Euro Cup finals. They beat Ireland 5 - 0 and my brother and I were just complaning how they only started scoring in the 2nd half and that the Irish should be nothing in both halves. When really neither of us could run like that for 90 minutes nor understand what it takes to play a full game at the pro level. Still we expect no mistakes and will mouth off when they make them. Its just part of enjoying sports.
Football and chess are different. We may not be good footballers, but we understand when a player misses a sitter. So we know it's time to curse 😂 But the eval-bar morons are different. They criticise without even understanding what the mistake is. Because chess is different. You can't fully understand these players' games without being somewhat of a player yourself. We really don't need football type of spectating in chess, and it makes no sense either.
@@aleladebiri Of course it is differnt but both have in common that the critism is stupid. It is OK to do it sitting on the couch complayining to the TV or to the person watching with you. Butyou shouldn´t put that on the internet!
Really interesting re shit talking from fans. As others have said, football (ie soccer) fans are crazily critical. BUT only as regards their own team. Chess fans are uncritically critical 😂
It does not at all suit Fabi to be negative and semi rude the way he¨s increasingly become in recent podcast episodes. I miss the thoughtful gentleman I used to watch
Just call it Fischer random. Fischer invented it. That is what he named it. The only reason people call it anything else is because they think Fischer (a Jew) was antisemitic.
@@critical_analysis did he hate all Jews? If yes, antisemitic. If no, then your take is oversimplified and it is ironically easier for you to generalize than to engage in “critical_analysis.”
@@ZogbotsoyconsumerI don't think Fischer being antisemitic has anything to do with it. Because then Fischer's name would've been cancelled from the entire chess world, which isn't the case.
Best chess podcast by far
Evaluation goes from +0.7 to -0.1. Chess chat - FABI BLUNDERED. WASHED!
That's 70% chess live chat in a nutshell.
I liked that comment from Fabi because I can pretend it doesn't include me
Well he did blunder a win
@@oliver-04no he really didn’t. He missed a win in an endgame that Magnus also missed while in extreme time pressure.
Outside of that the largest advantage was 1.4 which wasn’t winning
@@Jordan-ud4qv actually 1.4 is winning at that level, all he had to do was convert
@@oliver-04 I’m not even gonna dignify that
I got my youtube recap and I listened to 1,568 minutes of this podcast this year😂. Keep up the good work!
Woah, dedicated fan😂
That's a lot of minutes! 🤯
1459 here!!!
1541 for me 😅
51:20 - Fabi went after arbiters, he went after commentators, and now he's going after the Internet
As a person on the internet though, I kind of agree with him 😅
@@xCupressocyparis You think Chess players on the Internet get disproportionate shit?
This Fabi guy is such a nasty guy.
@@patheticpear2897 Not necessarily, but I think that the level of skill and dedication of the top players is easily underestimated by a relative patzer with a chess engine or eval bar, that these people make up the majority of the online audience, and that this inevitably leads to top players receiving unwarranted criticism about their chess skills from people who aren't really qualified to make such judgments. I'm not necessarily excluding myself from this category either! 😅
@@FranzJHaydnlol brilliantly nasty....We need these characters to keep everything interesting and moving in the right direction 😅
Regarding the world's longest flights (25:50 onward), when measured by great circle distance, Singapore to New York-JFK is in fact the longest flight in the world (and Singapore to Newark is number two by a negligible difference). But both of these often take longer routes over the Pacific and Atlantic in order to take advantage of jet streams/tailwinds.
Additionally, because of certain countries' airlines not being allowed to (or choosing to avoid) certain other countries' airspace, especially since 2022, some flights are now significantly longer than before; some of the most-affected are European airlines flying to and from east Asia (e.g. the Swiss flight from Tokyo to Zurich, which flies nearly 8000 miles instead of a little over 6000; this is still shorter than Singapore-NYC, but a very significant difference).
Fabi is so nice, humble, and cool. I guess if Chess made the kind of money that football is making then we won't have this type of access to a world #2 legend.. although we may.. at least in Basketball, folks like LeBron have their own podcasts and are directly connecting to the fans, sharing their insights on how they read the game. Anyway, thankful for the content man!
He is incredibly thoughtful (speed-thinking of course;) when he answers questions esp about other people & he remains one of thee most authentic people on the planet. Also very generous with his time on #csqpod. Must be exhausted. I don't think more money would change him either ... he's already attained millions & hasn't changed. Fabulous Fabi.
I just have this feeling that Ding will be surprising people. I don't know if it will be enough for him to win the match but I just... believe in him somehow.
4:58 loved this special guest- cat appearance
The boys are back, we missed you!!
DON'T let this distract you from the Anna Rudolf Caruana rap
Can you share the link?
Didn't know this would count as a podcast since I watch the vids rather than listen to them on YT music, but somehow it still made it to my top podcast of the year with only 11h 🤔 Not that I'm complaining!
"BLUNDERRRRRRRR" might make sense if something is truly egregious (like Ian's ...f5) but the constant unwelcome exclaimations in chess do get very tiring
I hate the eval-bar watchers.
Yeah it would be much better for chess if 80% of the audience went away.
I got my UA-cam recap and this was my top podcast! :)
29:25 You forgot cigaar Shah !!
54:26 it's almost like fabi predicted his last 960 game with Magnus. The people in chat going mad because they saw the eval go up and down, meanwhile the master commentators couldn't even explain what was good and bad about the position without blundering themselves.
It was not just evaluation going up. It was table base win on multiple occasions, so it is not just theoretical, he had multiple chances to win. Difficult, but was it more difficult than Magnus's task to defend for a draw?
It was a shame, that even Maurice was trash talking about Fabiano's endgame skills 😮
@@patheticpear2897 thank you for proving fabis point perfectly
@@iseriver3982 Fabis point was that Chess is unique in having this criticism. I think that is clearly wrong.
@@patheticpear2897 thank you for proving fabis point and then changing the subject showing how right fabi was that the chess audience think they can criticise freely simply because they can see a eval bar they have zero understanding of.
I don't think it's fair to say he's had 4 years of bad form when he barely played for 3 of those years and still won the world championship match during that time. Like I get he may already not have been at his absolute best in 2022-2023, but this year was much worse. In his last interview in English he talked about how much he's been affected by the losing streak he's had this year specifically. He said this is the first time in his career he's gone 20+ games of classical without a win, and this is an incredibly frustrating time in his career for that to be happening. I don't think the explanation is all that complicated, it's just pure tilt.
Like these two guys to discuss chess. This is the best channel to watch game analysis.
Im excited for Chess to come to my city in South Africa. Very happy that I will get the oppotunity to hopefully meet Fabi :)
"he could not play chess, he was playing at a 2500 level"
damn.
Surprised Fabi isn't staying in Singapore for the world championship, I figured I'll have a chance to maybe meet him there. LOL.
But thanks for the podcast and the great games in the freestyle chess!
But could a monkey given infinite time beat Lebron at chess?
One of the reasons I became interested in my chess in my mid-twenties is because of watching Fabi, Magnus, Ding, Levon, etc. and being in awe of how incredible their play is. I always will be.
This is the first time Christian had a bad hair day
I like how the conversation slips from Ding vs Gukesh to how noob I am as a chess fan...
Wake up honey another C-squared episode dropped
I sorta agree with Hikaru. I believe Fabi will qualify for the next 3 candidates, but he is not gonna be the favorite to win or likely to finish top3 in the last one. Also I dont see Hans surpassing Fabi in the next 5 years and I will risk it saying even in the next 10 years.
From 51:20,new side of fabi can be seen😅
@csqpod Just because Fabi claims he doesn't understand tennis, that's not right. With physical activity, we know that these athletes are amazing. You can see a Federer or an Alcaraz make amazing shots that you don't see lesser players making. You can see that the very best players get out of trouble by hitting an ace or an improbably winner when they are down triple break point. In chess, at the highest level, I can't tell why a certain move is good without someone explaining it, and even then, I don't get it. By contrast, a player watching tennis for a year can at least appreciate just how fast the players move, how hard the ball is hit. Physical attributes are much easier to see.
Chess, by contrast, can come down to one bad error and the game is lost. In almost all sports, that doesn't happen. If you build a lead, you have a lead. Tennis, at least, has sets, so a 6-0 first set doesn't mean a blowout in the second set. But if you build a 30 point lead in basketball, you can't lose that lead with one mistake. There's no 30 point penalty that allows the other team to catch up. In chess, that can happen. Leads are precarious.
That's why chess has a hard time getting viewers who will pay. Where it somehow succeeds is bad players of chess (like me) still find some perverse fascination to follow it. We're rare, but it makes a lot of the chess audience. We need the eval bar to even kind of enjoy it, but we still care. The commentary does a lot. Think of Ding's win over Nepo in the last Worlds. Fabi was in on that commentary and everyone though it would end in a draw, and it didn't. The commentary made it exciting and allowed beginners to basically follow along.
This comment is soooo accurate. I'm also questioning if the very top level is what we should watch. I'm a football (soccer) fan, and if I watch a second-division game and then a Champions League game, even though the second division players are still much better football players than I am, I can clearly see the difference of level and quality. For chess, that's not so much the case. I noticed this when they started covering the women's categories of tournaments in livestreams. Not only are those 2400-2500 players so much better than any amateur, but their games are also more fun to follow. I think this is also why people love the old world champions and their games so much. I think that by going one tier down, we can find much more joy in it. It feels like modern super GM chess is seriously too much for us.
Fabi should see the messi and Ronaldo fans shot talking , boi
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Don't read the youtube comments under an NFL recap game, Fabi. Everyone shit talks every play there even though each and every NFL player is an absolute beast.
The s--t talking is a problem of the internet in general and coverage specifically. It's not inevitable at all. It depends on how it's covered, whether it's moderated, what voices are elevated etc. The Evil Bar.
51:56 70 is way way too generous 😂😂
FABI spot on about the in game vs result shit talk. Chess is ruined by the bar !
FABI is completely wrong about criticism on the Internet. Without the bar there would not be any online chess tournaments.
Regarding lack of awareness of typical viewers…this is a consequence of confusing “growing the audience” with “growing the game.” Spending more time discussing the game, restricting commentator use of engines, and eliminating carnival barking will no doubt decrease total viewership, but those who do watch will be greatly rewarded. And “serious” players (anyone who plays in rated events regardless of rating) will thank you!
When people watched Shaq at the free-throw line they were in awe from watching super human ability.
The battle of the century, Fabi vs Angles
People don’t talk shit about singular moments in other games partially because in other games the pace is much faster and there is no time to do that
Love the podcast, but can you guys get Fabi a better mic? Or change some settings? The „c” and „s” sounds are very distinct and cut through other sounds way too much.
It is a law that people involved in Chess have terrible audio.
What if instead of an eval bar, there was just a "+- (White is winning)" or a "-= (Black is somewhat better)" on the screen? If ppl want to complain about knowing who's winning, they get that indicator, but then 0.2 vs. 0.4 doesn't get a frenzy.
Ding is a case of form changes, class is forever.
There's a parallell universe out there where instead of doing Chess, Fabi would become a world-famous battle rapper. We can infer this from the absolutely brutal yet demure and polite ways he has eviscerated us mere mortals with his kind yet destructive words.
On a yacht, with a goat, with a fox, in a box, in a house, with a mouse. Would you, would you play the goat?
I would never imagine that one day I would see Fabi and Magnus playing chess shirtless in a swimming pool. 😂
lmao i wonder if this conversation psyched Fabi out in the endgame vs Carlsen the next day that he blew
Fabi this is your BEST look... never change this hairstyle pls
I can feel fabi but he needs to change his psychological mindset and i guess this is the only difference among top players i mean if u see lets say magnus, for him anything other than a win is unacceptable for audience he recieves 10x more troll, hate and applause. But dude is cold and even doesnt stops trolling and even enjoys playing the format he wants not caring about what people would think about him so overall u just need to enjoy the game not care about people thats it. So much love for u❤❤
Timing y'all 😂😂😂 I can't tell if it's amazingly good or poor. Fabi's live freestyle game JUST wrapped and y'all finally drop a new video an hour earlier
58:18 The probability is actually zero, even though the event is not impossible. Yours truly - a mathematician (a.k.a. your biggest fan 🤓)
But it is not 0. It is 0.something
Freestyle chess is not going to gain any popularity with people like Fabiano. He spent most of the time defending and talking about classical chess, than talking about how freestyle chess could be a very relevant and popular variant that can coexist with classical chess. Magnus should have picked someone who is actually passionate about it.
Players like Fabi and Anish who spent the majority of their life learning openings are probably not the ideal brand ambassadors for the new variant.
All professional chess players spent their whole life studying regular chess, including Magnus himself. Who is that "someone" that he should have picked?
@@aleladebiriAli Reza, nodirbek, arjun, rapport, etc.
Ever since social media came about people have been bashing professional athletes. Stuff about the vocal minority, dehumanizing people, etc.
Social media is 50% trash and 50% incomplete information
I think all that is just good acting from Ding's side. And he is going to crush Flukesh
Lol
What happened to karjaken ? I really dk anything about him other than that he was the world champion challenger once and then apparently he disappeared?
He got canceled from the chess world (FIDE) due to comments related to the War in Ukraine
Fabi mentions my country, I make happy noises.
Fabi. The machine!!
crisitan you look so good with this hair, plz don't shave it off
Fabi looks younger here than he did 8 years ago.
51:22 😂
I agree make it rapid
Please, for the love of all that is holy, if you two have any power in the chess world, please - please stop Danny and Maurice from calling standard chess "518". Thank you for listening.
Hey Cristian, whatcha tink, your election poll was a little off,, maybe a wider sample was needed,,
The rest of the world voting too skewed it over the edge in all likelyhood
@52:00
Never trash spectators, this is what they do, this is how they enjoy the game. The criticism, the trash talk, etc.. people may not understand chess like you do but without all they do there is no you or chess. Bye bye
After arbiters and commentators, now its time for the internet trolls. No mercy by Fabi 💀
Fabi needs to remove his ego from this - Ding not done anything significant in 4 years - I thought he beat Jan over 14 classical games and playoff - Now Ding under the most intense pressure wins with the black pieces in Game 1🙂
My off the wall theory about Ding is that he might be suffering from long covid.
Fabi clearly had not been on tennis twitter doing the peak of the Big 3 era. That place was all toxic shit-talk.
I am still in Singapore!
Mainstream entertainment is primarily concerned with engaging people emotionally. Reasoning comes afterward.
4:03 looks like SG was a downgrade if they had money in a suitcase for Germany 😂 the massive cardboard checks in SG felt like a cheesy lottery winner at best, HR handing out paychecks at worst. Plus the wildly swinging cameras, hot mics, live camera feed backstage... Hot mess.
Infinite monkey thing runs into a problem - Universe itself may not exist for infinite time.
And obviously no monkey or chess board/pieces or the oponent would exist for infinite time. It is not an experiment that people want to test in reality
Paragon, not paradigm 😄
Fabi NEVER misses an opportunity to point out Ding's weak performance. Can't help feeling like he's bitter about that loss to him in the 2022 Madrid Candidates
Everyone is talking about Ding´s bad performances. He didn´t say anything shocking. He also said at the end that Ding is nice and it is impossible to dislike him. The 30 percent winning chance was not to bad considering his results since the last world championship. The prediction was before Ding won game 1. Obviously that changed a lot.
You're on a boat?
Fabi is kinda wrong tho, theres tonnes of armchair sports fans who do yell and call LeBron or whoever dogshit just cause they miss a shot. Its just these idiots spew a lot of shit, and more sane people arent nearly as vocal.
At least they're reacting to what's happening on the field. The people Fabi describes don't even look at the board. They just look at the eval bar.
Fabi gets percentages wrong 110% of the time.
I think Fabiano lacks objectivity when he comes to Ding Liren, I don't know why?
Why? It was obvious that Gukesh is the fovourite. I think that is objective. Of course now that Ding has won the first game, things have changed but Fabi couldn´t now that
Personal trainer is that what you gus are calling it these days? 😜
Ding has better prime than you fabi . I think fing have + score against u
Fabi was much closer to Number one than Ding was. He also has the higher Peak rating (2844 vs 2816) and he was number two much longer than Ding. Ding on is Peak is a great player. Ding between the last world championship and the current one, was on a much lower level. He dropped out of the top 20! The last time Fabi dropped out of the top 10 was when he was 20 years old.
Fabi also didn´t say anything mean about Ding. 30 winning chances was not bad considering his and Gukesh´d form in the last 1.5 years.
It's a misconception to think that chess fans have no idea what's going on. Having the engine evaluation and lines doesn't just tell you *that* there's an advantage, if you have even intermediate chess skills you can understand *why* the advantage exists pretty easily, and they also have expert commentators to help with that. Sometimes y'all talk like you need to be a titled player to even understand on a basic level what's going on in a grandmaster game and that's just not true. Anyone who plays chess regularly is gonna understand a lot of the nuances without being told because playing ability is not the same as the ability to analyze or appreciate someone else's game with significant outside assistance. Having engine analysis also makes the average viewer's understanding of the game categorically different from their understanding of a sport like Tennis or Basketball where there is no totally (or at least near-totally) objective basis for analysis.
Great podcast.. but I completely disagree with Fabi in the last part. I follow football and cricket, and these fans are ruthless when it comes to criticism. Chess fans are far more sane than them.. 😅
I know Ding is the best player on earth after Magnus and 100% he will prove it in this World championship
Facts. Disgusting how Fabi continues to spread subjectively incorrect analysis on Ding because he is salty that Ding is the world champion from his own generation. Not the first time Fabi is not objective on matters and undermines Ding's accomplishments. "Ok, he had a good second half of the 2021 candidates".. fr? He was phenomenal. Crushed you to do it. "I don't think he played that great in candidates 2022". Ok, also crushed you to do it. And Hikaru. Only reason he didnt actually win was due solely to Nepo in round 1.
Keep crying. Ding, regardless of result in this year's championship, will still have done 2 things you have not. Play a WCC twice and Winning at least one. Oh and also in the history books for 100 games unbeaten at the top level. A feat you will probably never pass for the rest of your career. Now THAT is objective.
And thinking Ding is not 'much' better than Gukesh at faster time controls is a joke. Ding almost beat Hikaru in the speed chess championship, and was at one point ranked 1 in rapid and ranked 1 in blitz. He literally won the WCC in tiebreaks that was in Rapid, and arguably Blitz after Rg1. Cope.
@@williamshake7559You are exactly right. That’s what Fabi sounded like here, saltier than a salted fish.
Cute cat
We England football fans call the players and manager utter crap on a play by play basis even though they reached two back to back Euro Cup finals. They beat Ireland 5 - 0 and my brother and I were just complaning how they only started scoring in the 2nd half and that the Irish should be nothing in both halves. When really neither of us could run like that for 90 minutes nor understand what it takes to play a full game at the pro level. Still we expect no mistakes and will mouth off when they make them. Its just part of enjoying sports.
Football and chess are different. We may not be good footballers, but we understand when a player misses a sitter. So we know it's time to curse 😂 But the eval-bar morons are different. They criticise without even understanding what the mistake is. Because chess is different. You can't fully understand these players' games without being somewhat of a player yourself. We really don't need football type of spectating in chess, and it makes no sense either.
@@aleladebiri Of course it is differnt but both have in common that the critism is stupid. It is OK to do it sitting on the couch complayining to the TV or to the person watching with you. Butyou shouldn´t put that on the internet!
Really interesting re shit talking from fans. As others have said, football (ie soccer) fans are crazily critical. BUT only as regards their own team. Chess fans are uncritically critical 😂
It does not at all suit Fabi to be negative and semi rude the way he¨s increasingly become in recent podcast episodes.
I miss the thoughtful gentleman I used to watch
Does not fit your view of him. It does fit him as it is what he thinks. You have to reframe your view of him.
Renaming chess960 and hand and brain is fresh ideas? Maybe having good coverage of an event should be priority, call it a fresh idea 😂
Just call it Fischer random. Fischer invented it. That is what he named it. The only reason people call it anything else is because they think Fischer (a Jew) was antisemitic.
What is there to think? He was antisemitic and horrible person
He was antisemitic
@@critical_analysis did he hate all Jews? If yes, antisemitic. If no, then your take is oversimplified and it is ironically easier for you to generalize than to engage in “critical_analysis.”
@@ZogbotsoyconsumerI don't think Fischer being antisemitic has anything to do with it. Because then Fischer's name would've been cancelled from the entire chess world, which isn't the case.
@@aleladebiri why don’t they call it what it’s inventor named it?