I'm all for that!! I was just watching a review of buffalo bore 100gr .32 H&R +P ammo. That stuff was going 1200-1250 fps, out of an LCR. About 85% of the .327 fed mag energy. Pretty good!
@@FMDad-dm5qo I've not heard the .327 has consistency probs, just not a lot of info out there on the cartridge. What makes it wonky? I am impressed by the .32 H&R, it's terminal ballistics are surprising and the almost non existent recoil makes it well suited for a light revolver.
These are the first J-frames I've ever been excited for. 32 H&R Magnum is an excellent, effective chambering that allows for a sixth round in the J-frame cylinder without the recoil of 327 in an airweight. Couple that with actual sights, some decent grips, and most importantly no ugly internal lock, and I'm sure these will find a strong audience! Thanks for covering these - I'll have to get on my local gun shop's waitlist and hope that the production run isn't limited. (Hopefully this leads to more of these sorts of well-thought-out wheelguns from S&W in the future, preferably without those ugly internal lock holes. I'd love to see a steel, 7-shot K-frame chambered in 327 with the features that these guns have!)
Agreed, steel K frame in 327 would be sweet. 6 or 7 shot, I’m not picky with 5-6” and 8 3/8” half-lug barrels. I had Jack Huntington do a custom 327 conversion to a model 66 using a cylinder and barrel from a 617.
.32 revolver cartridges are underrated. The .32 H&R Mag is essentially the .38 Special power but rather than a heavy non-expanding slow bullet at 800 FPS, you got an 85 gr going 1,000 FPS achieving the same energy with way more chance of hollow point expansion. BTW I bought some .32 H&R Mag Critical Defense and some new clear gel and will be running that test soon as I never properly gel tested it. Good timing that I happened to buy that ammo when this is coming out.
@@GunSam Thank you Gun Sam! You are a Legend. You’ve helped inform generations of people and displayed the effectiveness of countless firearms and cartridges!
The BEST feature about these is the .32 H&R Magnum cartridge. I bought my wife a Model 332 Titanium Airweight about 20 years ago. Awesome for close range defense, lighter recoil than .38 +P (much lighter) and an extra round capacity. S&W should never have discontinued it! The 332s now are stupid expensive, if you can find one. So the price of these are pretty good for a semi-custom revolver.
Yep. The 332 & 432 are ignorantly expensive unicorns. My wife's primary carry for pushing a decade now too. Her main lament has been the (so called) sights. She's gonna have a nice birthday surprise this year! (But I'll likely get to swap the grips onto one of mine to boot). She always returns to/prefers the Bantam one-piece clam shell rubber set.
@@ED-2.0.9. Like I said, the valuable part of the new gun is the chambering. I wouldn't pay a nickle extra for the sights. My wife has excellent sights on her Colt Officer's Model Match revolver for target shooting. It also has an outstanding trigger, and 6" barrel. It's a target revolver She knows the sights on her S&W 332 are basically of no use _for what that gun is intended for._ Especially not on a DAO revolver. BUT they will separate a lot of people from their money AND if you want a J Frame .32 H&R Magnum, (and you should!) the price is still better than what used ones are going for.
I wasn't going to watch this because I'm not interested in .38 snubs but I figured I'd check it out anyway. I'm very excited to hear that S&W is bringing back the .32 snub. The .32h&r is the perfect round for a lightweight snub and I hope it catches on.
I was never a big fan of stubbies until I bought one from a relative who needed some cash for another project........it's now my favorite carry gun. You don't know what you don't know! This looks like a fantastic product.
Lipsey's did an awesome job with these. They addressed my biggest issues with the J frame in a nice package. Plus when you have guys like Bryan Eastridge and Darryl Bolke involved, you know its gonna be done right.
The caliber is the best part actually. What good does a grip do when I only have five lousy shots. If I want a gun with extremely low bullet capacity I’d just carry an old musket. 5 shot revolvers are less than useless imo
Finally! Someone giving the 32 caliber some love. 327 Federal Magnum is my favorite cartridge but that would probably be a bit too ,inch recoil in an Airweight revolver. 32 H&R Mag is a good round that is the equivalent of 38 Special and you get one more round. Well done Linsey’s!
Logically, the 32 H&R should have replaced the 38 Special in small revolvers. It does everything the 38 does but with less recoil plus 20% higher capacity. It is surprising that it is not more popular.
@@PassivePortfolios Actually, the old school J frames were designed for 32 caliber, with 6 shots. But cops who carried a full size 38 special wanted to have that same caliber in their backup gun or off duty gun. So SW came out with a 38 caliber version, but with one less round.
@@LA_Commander It's what should have been done in the first place. I suppose there are some people who will still complain about the blast and kick but it is somewhat less than 38 Special and it offers one more round.
While I can understand the advantages of .32 H&R Magnum in this type of revolver, those advantages mean nothing nothing if the ammo isn't there for it. .32 H&R ammunition is not only sparse, but the variety of ammo available is abysmal. Not to mention expensive. People who reload will probably love the 432/632, but most people will likely end up buying the 442UC/642UC. .38 Special is plenty adequate, and widely available.
Sights on non-steel snubby j-frames should have been a common thing 10 years ago, but glad they're finally doing it! Do 22 mag and 22lr next! Bringing back 32 H&R is absolutely amazing and I hope they see a ton of success with it.
I like the heavy trigger pull on my 642-2. Gives me peace of mind that even without a manual safety it would take a very deliberate pull of the trigger for it to fire.
While I am on my second S&W and love the J frame I have to mention I nearly had a very bad day when I went to shoot my brand new gun. The trigger began to feel weird and I noticed upon cleaning it the pin that locks the revolver ejector rod in place was missing from the factory. S&W had it about five months before I got it back repaired. I am glad they took responsibility and fixed it, placing in the pin and replacing almost all the interior mechanics. If I had kept target practicing I'm told the gun had a good chance of breaking apart. Not what you want to experience on a brand new gun. This happened in 2023.
Low key best announcement of Shotshow. Watch the Lucky Gunner video about his EDC or on the cartridge to understand why a 32 Magnum is the best carry revolver platform.
There was a point in the rep's spiel where I was halfway expecting him to recommend the lucky gunner "Why the Best Snub Nose Caliber is .32" video. Its the first thing people should do if they have any concerns about .32.
I've never bought a revolver before, but this looks like a great balance of quality and cost. I've come to realize revolvers are untouched when it comes to reliability in a small package and if you want a solid defensive caliber in a small package, a revolver is the only way you're going to get it. Or a derringer, but then you're limited to two rounds. Kind of want one of these.
Did anyone else notice that the Hilary hole (action lock) appears to be deleted on the example he is holding in this clip? Lets hope that is how production models will be shipped as well.
Lipsey’s is the shiznit for savvy revolver fans. E.g. their special runs of Ruger SAs are always stacked with great blends of features that users actually want; “why don’t they all come like this?” etc. Sounds like they’re bringing the same acumen to J-frames, and I’m here for it.
Innovation is off the charts! Replacing fixed sights on a point and shoot snub nose…brilliant. And who would ever think to come up with an aftermarket grip for a j-frame?
The aluminum airweight frame probably wouldn't stand up to 327 without scandium reinforcement or moving to steel, which would raise the price significantly. Not to mention that 32 H&R would be much nicer to shoot than 327 out of an airweight J-frame. I'd prefer to see a steel K-frame with the features of these guns (especially no internal lock) chambered in 327.
I don't think there's many people out there who actually want a 327 j-frame; most are going to be happy with a 32 H&R or want a 357. Even the guys who have 327's in like LCRs want to shoot and carry the 32H&R ammo.
I guess the 327 magnum is just too much for that revolver so that's why they opted for only 32 H&R. The 327 is a great cartridge, yet it's so hard to find, it's a shame it never caught on more.
you do realize the whole '3xx' lineup was originally for the Scandium alloy frames, where the N-frame 329 weighed only 27-28 ounces? (Ergo, the full stainless models were designated as the '627'...)
That would take some engineering work, and probably steel (heavier) or titanium (expensive) cylinders. Instead they just dust off the old design and transfer over their sights knowledge from that steel gun that has them.
That's a very powerful round. approaches 357 magnum. Would need to be a heavier steel gun for that to work. Keeping the gun light means some compromises. Like everything else, it's a trade off
Thats awesome that S&W brought back the 6 shot 32 magnum DAO. Lighter recoil with the same ballistics as a 38 special and you get an extra round its a no brainer... People say that 32 H&R is hard to get however during all the big ammo shortages 40 S&W and 32 mag were the only pistol cartidges on the shelf at the sporting good stores. Something to think about.
For me, the big news is the improved trigger. The J frame I once owned and others I have shot have ALL had double action triggers that rated between miserable and horrible. For a DA only revolver, a smooth trigger is an absolute must.
I really wish they could've went 327 Federal, but that said, these look pretty well thought out for the money. Definitely fixed all of the J frame shortcomings!
Why? 32 H&R can hit the correct penetration depth, iirc none of the 327 loads did well out of snubbys. And then if it's more power that you want, 357 is already an option. I get just wanting one and liking options, but it feels like a really small niche
@@DWalter.27 to me, 32 mag feels like a compromise when you *could* have 327 and have 4 caliber options instead of 3. Also, I was skeptical of 327 FM from a snub, but I've seen some ballistics testing on here that was actually surprising. Speer makes a 327 load that will hit 1400fps from a 1.9 inch barrel with over 400lb-ft of energy. Generally 357 mag won't even do that well from a snub.
@@TheOfficialCaseMade Agreed. Modern offerings of 327 fed mag get to screaming, even out of snubbies. It's a really overlooked revolver cartridge. All of the hooplah of the 30 super carry a couple off years back looked to me like a whole lot like 327 fed mag auto.
The Ruger LCR .327 runs: . 32 Long, .32 H&R Magnum AND .327. It's been around for a few years and is an ultra lightweight hammerless 6-shot. the .32 H&R Magnum is snappy and is a decent defense cartridge, while the .327 is a resoundingly hard-hitting hand-cannon round. The only issue is that the .32H&R rounds are notoriously hard to find. They come around in batches and vanish, and are pricey. A smart manufacturer might invest in this "new" round as it will be seeing a lot more sales.
+1. Kinda curious they didn’t just do it in .327 mag to compete with the LCR…. and you can shoot all the other .32s in it anyway. Holding out hope these end up being de facto “launch editions” and the upgrades start carrying over to all new production j frames
The 357's have steel or scandium cylinders; the 327's probably need them too. That means they're either heavier or cost over $1,000. Most people struggle with 38, they don't wanna shoot something hotter. So for most people, they don't want a 327. They also used to make 32 H&R, they simply discontinued them years ago. So it makes a lot of sense to do these in 32 H&R as the first guns.
@@DWalter.27 To be fair, they also used to make 327 fed mag. Look up the original 632. This is their relaunch...in the weaker 32 variant. I get why, but I don't have to like it. I think it's a missed opportunity. For 327 folks like myself they could have done a 327 fed mag with their carry upgrades and I'd be much more interested in that. Oh well, Sp101 and LCR it is.
When s & w went to the mim parts they increased their trigger return spring weight as well as the hammer spring making an already difficult revolver to shoot much more difficult. These revolvers need all the help they can get and I'm glad and disappointed that it took s & w two and a half decades to address some of these problems. Now that I'm in my 70's I carry glocks in different configurations because they are easy to shoot well and they work.
I handled this New Carry J-Frame at Shot-Show and am going to take Jason's Personal Recommendation to me and try that 32 H&R Magnum Caliber ';-) Thanks Jason and Good Meeting You Sir!
Hi, yes, it's a Lipsey's exclusive. I've been hoping to see someone confirm if the trigger is truly different from a typical performance center trigger job but I haven't seen anyone confirm that yet. If that new trigger is really how they make it sound then I hope they roll that into new j frames in the future at the very least, if not rolling the change back into current models.
Wish people liked shooting rimless ammo through revolvers. A spring extractor isn't too hard to make, and 9mm is so much cheaper than 38. Plus in a snub nose, you get more muzzle energy with the 9mm than 357, and you get about the same recoil as 38. Best of both worlds.
The manufacturer will likely say no but yes, it likely will in practice. 32 cal revolvers past 32 S&W Long easily handle the pressure of 32 acp and it is the same diameter bullet. 32 revolvers are always 'backwards compatible' with the older versions of ammo since they're iterated from each other. 327 fed mag can shoot 32 H&R Magnum which can shoot 32 S&W long which can shoot 32 S&W.
Unless the chamfered cylinders mess something up, I don't see why it wouldn't. Probably doesn't eject nicely or at all, but I imagine you know that already.
I would like to see Smith make a 9mm with half moon clips in this style. Most of us have multiple 9mm guns, and adding another caliber is not something we want to do. Lets be realistic if you are choosing a revolver you are probably not carrying extra ammo on person. Its the drop in a coat pocket on the way out the door gun. So a full or half moon clip system works well, and if you do need a reload the moon clip is smaller than a speed loader. The double action only revolver is the only style of gun I really like to have outside a holster in a pocket, so a 9mm makes a lot of sense for us. It also makes the ejection of spent case(s) easier, due to the length of a 9mm vs 38special, with the short ejection rod these guns have.
I like the .327 Federal Magnum better than the .32 H&R Magnum -- in theory. As a long-time fan of the S&W Model 31, .32 S&W Long, with a three-inch barrel, I will look at this. But . . . 3" is essential for balance and pointing.
How much does it weigh? The S&W 332 Ti discontinued at least 20 years ago is 11.5oz. Hard to find. I like the lightest gun possible for .32 Long. But this gun will be much more available and I really like the modern touches especially the real and easily replaceable sights. The 332 sights are typical "you don't need to aim a small pistol" crap by comparison. Still, I'm a big .32 fan and it's exciting to see more .32s. I don't know why anyone would put down .32s, they're perfect for lightweight and small guns. Even if you're a big man with a full-size steel-framed gun on your person all day long, you might want a small light as a second backup gun, or to wear when you go for a job. Or maybe you just acknowledge the existence of smaller people and recoil-sensitive people. The best thing S&W could do to advance small-frame revolvers is to introduce or reintroduce smaller frame sizes. The J-frame was developed to fit .38 Special and is oversized for everything smaller. In the heyday of S&W .32s, they had their own smaller I-frame. With modern materials like scandium, maybe they could make an even smaller frame for .32s (or .38s). And .22s were available in an even smaller frame, the M-frame, back in the early Ladysmith. Small revolvers are some of the best small carry handguns (as small semi-autos are less reliable) and there is currently nothing available sized between a double-action .38/357 J-frame and a single-action .22 rimfire NAA mini-revolver. The scandium J-frame AirLites are all around 10.5-12oz. In a smaller frame, they could be even lighter, which would be suited to the minimal recoil of cartridges like .32 Long, .22LR, and .22WMR. And as long as I'm making a wishlist, it's generally better for revolvers to fire from the bottom of the cylinder like the Chiappa Rhino, for more comfortable and manageable recoil. Anyway, the new gun will probably be the best buy for a .32 H&R on the market. Even if it's a little heavier, the superior features and lower price and higher availability will give it the edge over a used 332 Ti .32 H&R AirLite, unless you shoot .32 Long and want the absolute lightest double-action revolver. I believe in having decent sights (including a proper rear sight), so I'd be inclined to buy the new revolver. To get similar upgrades in an old gun like a 332 or Colt Cobra/Agent would require gunsmithing an already expensive old gun. I'm happy to see S&W bring this new .32 and .38 AirWeight snubbie to market.
My hope is that this leads to all the j-frames getting options to have the new sights. I'm at the point right now where the sights are starting to hinder my ability to shoot it better. I love j-frames and carried a 340PD for several years. A couple months ago I switched to the 22mag because it was a considerably lighter gun (loaded weight) and the ammo was more affordable. As a small dude, I'd consider buying a smaller S&W frame in 22 mag to try it and see what I like; as long as it's not a single action like the NAA.
I currently run a 431PD w/ a hammer here in California on a CCW. Please get this on the Dept of Justice List of Approved Handguns so I can get one. Thanks!
@DWalter.27 listened again and you're right, is just H&R mag. Taurus introduced an optics ready version of their 327 fed mag model. The point is still true. I'll edit the content. Thanks.
I would buy one if they made a version of the 638 or 448, the one with the shrouded hammer. I love my 638, but so does my dad. I'm having a really tough time getting it back from him.
I own an airweight with a hammer that I bought three years ago. It had a terrible trigger and S&W wouldn’t send me or my gunsmith a trigger kit. They wanted me to send my brand new pistol to them. From experience they would have it at least 6 months. This pistol wasn’t my ccw so I left it cocked unloaded. I shot it about once every week. After about 6 months the trigger pull went down to 6 lbs. it started at 9 lbs. I carry it sometimes because it is lighter and smaller than my 9mm but I like the 10+1 .
The real question that should have been asked is why S&W didn't bore the cylinder for the .327 Magnum? Ruger LCR does it and it provides another CC option.
All of those modifications are good, however they should also offer a 2.5" barrel, which increases the 135 GD another 100 fps, increases sight radius, and reduces recoil. The S&W airweight old 2.5" were great, they need to bring them back.
I'm in. Loving my old 642 currently. I don't agree with any argument to making that in a 32. I can 38+p my 642 all day. And that +p round actually lands according to the sights. Imagine that....
Speaking as someone who’s spent a lot of time manning a trade show booth this guy is a good salesman.
Fact
A lot better than the guy from palmetto.
He got more info out in a few minutes than some of these industry reps in 30 min
Yeah it’s night and day. He is an actual Lipsey’s R&D guy, been with them forever, and you can really tell.
@@FlamerGamer412 palmetto guy must be exhausted
Luckygunner's psyop campaign for a 32 revolver has finally succeeded! Now we just have to buy one before theyre discontinued and $1k on GB again.
I was just thinking the same thing! 😂
I'm all for that!! I was just watching a review of buffalo bore 100gr .32 H&R +P ammo. That stuff was going 1200-1250 fps, out of an LCR. About 85% of the .327 fed mag energy. Pretty good!
@@1diggers1 and .32 Mag (properly loaded) is a more consistent, accurate and just overall less wonky cartridge than the .327.
@@FMDad-dm5qo I've not heard the .327 has consistency probs, just not a lot of info out there on the cartridge. What makes it wonky?
I am impressed by the .32 H&R, it's terminal ballistics are surprising and the almost non existent recoil makes it well suited for a light revolver.
@@FMDad-dm5qoWhy not have the choice though... 1/10th of an inch more 4 a 327 should be VERY doable!
These are the first J-frames I've ever been excited for. 32 H&R Magnum is an excellent, effective chambering that allows for a sixth round in the J-frame cylinder without the recoil of 327 in an airweight. Couple that with actual sights, some decent grips, and most importantly no ugly internal lock, and I'm sure these will find a strong audience! Thanks for covering these - I'll have to get on my local gun shop's waitlist and hope that the production run isn't limited.
(Hopefully this leads to more of these sorts of well-thought-out wheelguns from S&W in the future, preferably without those ugly internal lock holes. I'd love to see a steel, 7-shot K-frame chambered in 327 with the features that these guns have!)
Agreed, steel K frame in 327 would be sweet. 6 or 7 shot, I’m not picky with 5-6” and 8 3/8” half-lug barrels.
I had Jack Huntington do a custom 327 conversion to a model 66 using a cylinder and barrel from a 617.
@@johnnyk5 This is one of the most wild comments I’ve ever seen in my life
I think 32H&R over 327 Fed Mag is a mistake.
There are options for the 327 out there. I personally think it’s a really good choice, plenty of power and much better follow up shots.
Absolutely agreed.
While we're dreaming about .327s... how about a 10-shot N-frame?
The 432UC is the most Exciting Revolver Release in the last decade! Six Shots of 32 H&R Magnum is Amazing!
And finally the frame itself is sized for the shorter cartridge! Not just a standard frame with the barrel protruding toward the undersized cylinder.
@@phillycheesetake 💯
@@phillycheesetake such an overlooked feature
.32 revolver cartridges are underrated. The .32 H&R Mag is essentially the .38 Special power but rather than a heavy non-expanding slow bullet at 800 FPS, you got an 85 gr going 1,000 FPS achieving the same energy with way more chance of hollow point expansion. BTW I bought some .32 H&R Mag Critical Defense and some new clear gel and will be running that test soon as I never properly gel tested it. Good timing that I happened to buy that ammo when this is coming out.
@@GunSam Thank you Gun Sam! You are a Legend. You’ve helped inform generations of people and displayed the effectiveness of countless firearms and cartridges!
The BEST feature about these is the .32 H&R Magnum cartridge. I bought my wife a Model 332 Titanium Airweight about 20 years ago. Awesome for close range defense, lighter recoil than .38 +P (much lighter) and an extra round capacity. S&W should never have discontinued it!
The 332s now are stupid expensive, if you can find one. So the price of these are pretty good for a semi-custom revolver.
Absolute Facts
Yep. The 332 & 432 are ignorantly expensive unicorns. My wife's primary carry for pushing a decade now too. Her main lament has been the (so called) sights. She's gonna have a nice birthday surprise this year! (But I'll likely get to swap the grips onto one of mine to boot). She always returns to/prefers the Bantam one-piece clam shell rubber set.
@@ED-2.0.9. Like I said, the valuable part of the new gun is the chambering. I wouldn't pay a nickle extra for the sights.
My wife has excellent sights on her Colt Officer's Model Match revolver for target shooting. It also has an outstanding trigger, and 6" barrel. It's a target revolver
She knows the sights on her S&W 332 are basically of no use _for what that gun is intended for._ Especially not on a DAO revolver.
BUT they will separate a lot of people from their money AND if you want a J Frame .32 H&R Magnum, (and you should!) the price is still better than what used ones are going for.
I wasn't going to watch this because I'm not interested in .38 snubs but I figured I'd check it out anyway. I'm very excited to hear that S&W is bringing back the .32 snub. The .32h&r is the perfect round for a lightweight snub and I hope it catches on.
I was never a big fan of stubbies until I bought one from a relative who needed some cash for another project........it's now my favorite carry gun. You don't know what you don't know! This looks like a fantastic product.
Lipsey's did an awesome job with these. They addressed my biggest issues with the J frame in a nice package. Plus when you have guys like Bryan Eastridge and Darryl Bolke involved, you know its gonna be done right.
Super excited!! J frame .32 is dope!! Well done S&W!!!
They finally figured out the LCRs best quality- the grip.
The trigger is the best quality lol
Also no “ Hilary Hole “.
@@LA_Commander ya. Once you figure out you have to pump it like a shotgun, it's reliable
The caliber is the best part actually. What good does a grip do when I only have five lousy shots. If I want a gun with extremely low bullet capacity I’d just carry an old musket. 5 shot revolvers are less than useless imo
@duckweathermcoc8731 shows how little you know about actual, documented self defense shootings...
Finally! Someone giving the 32 caliber some love. 327 Federal Magnum is my favorite cartridge but that would probably be a bit too ,inch recoil in an Airweight revolver. 32 H&R Mag is a good round that is the equivalent of 38 Special and you get one more round. Well done Linsey’s!
Logically, the 32 H&R should have replaced the 38 Special in small revolvers. It does everything the 38 does but with less recoil plus 20% higher capacity. It is surprising that it is not more popular.
@@PassivePortfolios Actually, the old school J frames were designed for 32 caliber, with 6 shots. But cops who carried a full size 38 special wanted to have that same caliber in their backup gun or off duty gun. So SW came out with a 38 caliber version, but with one less round.
@@LA_Commander You are right about the J-frame and 32 caliber, but at the time the 32 H&R mag. did not exist.
@@PassivePortfolios correct. 32 HR magnum is definitely an improvement over the 32 long
@@LA_Commander It's what should have been done in the first place. I suppose there are some people who will still complain about the blast and kick but it is somewhat less than 38 Special and it offers one more round.
The 432 and 632 are what I’m the most excited about from Shot Show.
I haven't seen anything yet even 25% as exciting as actual sights on j-frames and bringing back 6 shot 32H&R in them.
@@DWalter.27 I agree!
While I can understand the advantages of .32 H&R Magnum in this type of revolver, those advantages mean nothing nothing if the ammo isn't there for it. .32 H&R ammunition is not only sparse, but the variety of ammo available is abysmal. Not to mention expensive. People who reload will probably love the 432/632, but most people will likely end up buying the 442UC/642UC. .38 Special is plenty adequate, and widely available.
Sights on non-steel snubby j-frames should have been a common thing 10 years ago, but glad they're finally doing it! Do 22 mag and 22lr next!
Bringing back 32 H&R is absolutely amazing and I hope they see a ton of success with it.
S&W already has a 22Mag and 22lr j-frame in case u weren't aware.
@@TBaggingSociety Not with these sights.
$739 for a 22 LR /magnum 😳
is Still WAY TOO MUCH
Even if it is a S&W
I like the heavy trigger pull on my 642-2. Gives me peace of mind that even without a manual safety it would take a very deliberate pull of the trigger for it to fire.
the 642 trigger unmodified is bad ,,, Having a better trigger gives me peace of mind im hitting my target ...
Get an Apex spring kit installed and some good quality Hogue grips and you have a 100% better gun. Trust me.
While I am on my second S&W and love the J frame I have to mention I nearly had a very bad day when I went to shoot my brand new gun. The trigger began to feel weird and I noticed upon cleaning it the pin that locks the revolver ejector rod in place was missing from the factory. S&W had it about five months before I got it back repaired. I am glad they took responsibility and fixed it, placing in the pin and replacing almost all the interior mechanics. If I had kept target practicing I'm told the gun had a good chance of breaking apart. Not what you want to experience on a brand new gun. This happened in 2023.
This looks great! I want one. Also, please make a 10 shot, 327fedmag, N-frame.
YES! 32H&R! Finally it returns! I've always thought 327 IS a bit too warm for such a small gun.
Yep, 327Fed would be as asinine in an AirWeight as .357 in a Scandium-Ti variant.
So you can't shoot 327 Federal in this gun?
@@Horned1 No you can't. Chamber's cut to make it not happen. It would be abusive to shoot. Gun and Shooter.
glad to see 32 making a comeback
Low key best announcement of Shotshow. Watch the Lucky Gunner video about his EDC or on the cartridge to understand why a 32 Magnum is the best carry revolver platform.
Facts
There was a point in the rep's spiel where I was halfway expecting him to recommend the lucky gunner "Why the Best Snub Nose Caliber is .32" video. Its the first thing people should do if they have any concerns about .32.
Give me the summary- Is 32 Mag better than the .38 Special?
@@coderexe30 6 Shots instead of just 5 also higher velocity for more reliable consistent expansion.
@@chris9465 Facts
I've never bought a revolver before, but this looks like a great balance of quality and cost. I've come to realize revolvers are untouched when it comes to reliability in a small package and if you want a solid defensive caliber in a small package, a revolver is the only way you're going to get it. Or a derringer, but then you're limited to two rounds. Kind of want one of these.
I handled these guns at SHOT. They're a VERY nice upgrade from the stock S&Ws, and the price is *extremely* reasonable for what you get.
J frame .32 is a great choice for a windbreaker pocket. Caliber/gun combo is great for self defense.
Lipsey's are genius. Start shipping when men get their tax refunds wink wink.
I've always loved snub nose revolvers. I'm gonna need to check out this 32. H&R Magnum.
The Hornady FTX CD load is very controllable in these alloy Js. Somewhat between 32H&R and SW long in recoil.
Did anyone else notice that the Hilary hole (action lock) appears to be deleted on the example he is holding in this clip? Lets hope that is how production models will be shipped as well.
At the 2:00 mark, MSRP $759.
Lipsey’s is the shiznit for savvy revolver fans. E.g. their special runs of Ruger SAs are always stacked with great blends of features that users actually want; “why don’t they all come like this?” etc.
Sounds like they’re bringing the same acumen to J-frames, and I’m here for it.
Dealer price on them is 599.99 according to that 1st hang tag.
This is one of the best releases of this year's show. Also that's a sexy hand model
These are great CCW options for those that wear size XS girls shorts -- yes, I'm looking at you, James.
Good job Lipsey’s. Gave the j frame a much needed upgrade. Also thanks for some of the cool Glocks they have brought in the last few years.
I'm actually really excited about this pistol. I love having a S&W 642 handy, but they fixed every issue I have with it.
Innovation is off the charts! Replacing fixed sights on a point and shoot snub nose…brilliant. And who would ever think to come up with an aftermarket grip for a j-frame?
James, you’re a great interviewer. Thanks for getting the proper information. That’s a slick little wheel!
They look amazing, but they should have chambered those 32 revolvers in 327 Fed Magnum not 32 H&R.
The aluminum airweight frame probably wouldn't stand up to 327 without scandium reinforcement or moving to steel, which would raise the price significantly. Not to mention that 32 H&R would be much nicer to shoot than 327 out of an airweight J-frame. I'd prefer to see a steel K-frame with the features of these guns (especially no internal lock) chambered in 327.
@@FCV0511as the owner of a 360PD, can confirm 357 magnum in a scandium j frame is like smashing your palm with a hammer
@@votekyle3000Fact
I See Scandium in the Near Future
I don't think there's many people out there who actually want a 327 j-frame; most are going to be happy with a 32 H&R or want a 357. Even the guys who have 327's in like LCRs want to shoot and carry the 32H&R ammo.
I guess the 327 magnum is just too much for that revolver so that's why they opted for only 32 H&R. The 327 is a great cartridge, yet it's so hard to find, it's a shame it never caught on more.
These look great. I’d like to see more affordable 22Magnum snub revovlers
Beautiful gooch gun, a must have for the taint carry fellas out there!
Another Plastic Fantastic! Adult Toy for Wonder Boy!
Ok...never heard of "taint carry," but I REALLY don't want you to explain it.
Pretty self explanatory.@@UA-camHandlesAreMoronic
Great video really appreciate the insight on new S&W from Lipsey’s
Awesome! Next we need the stainless steel k frame in 327 with both 5-6” and 8 3/8” half-lug barrels.
AND NO KEY LOCK!
you do realize the whole '3xx' lineup was originally for the Scandium alloy frames, where the N-frame 329 weighed only 27-28 ounces? (Ergo, the full stainless models were designated as the '627'...)
You do realize 327 refers to the chambering, i.e. 327 federal magnum.
The '327' and '627' have been .357 Magnum models for decades....;my apologies, I do see that you said 'in 327'....@@johnnyk5
Always loved the lightweight J frames !!!!
Want one of these. Do wish S&W would do a similar version of the 638.
This looks totally awesome, what is most exciting is real sights and new trigger pull. I want it!
Love the black and brown color combo, just like a proper 30's private eye's tenchcoat piece.
HOKEY SMOKES! Really want one of those 632s!
UNOFFICIALLY the 32 H&R Magnum was around BEFORE the 80's. My dad and uncle had them when I was a kid. Then I went into the Navy in 81.
Kinda wish they chambered it in 327 so I had rhe option but 32 magnum is still an awesome cartridge!
That would take some engineering work, and probably steel (heavier) or titanium (expensive) cylinders. Instead they just dust off the old design and transfer over their sights knowledge from that steel gun that has them.
That's a very powerful round. approaches 357 magnum. Would need to be a heavier steel gun for that to work. Keeping the gun light means some compromises. Like everything else, it's a trade off
Picked up my 632-UC yesterday. Already love it.
Thats awesome that S&W brought back the 6 shot 32 magnum DAO. Lighter recoil with the same ballistics as a 38 special and you get an extra round its a no brainer... People say that 32 H&R is hard to get however during all the big ammo shortages 40 S&W and 32 mag were the only pistol cartidges on the shelf at the sporting good stores. Something to think about.
@@rangefinderz5135 so your the fruit loope that buys all the ammo off the shelf ha ha caught your azz
Damn, dudes. Whoever's editing/producing your videos is earning their keep. Kudos!
I'm surprised they gave the .32s the same model number, 632, as the .327 fed mag they made a number of years ago.
For me, the big news is the improved trigger. The J frame I once owned and others I have shot have ALL had double action triggers that rated between miserable and horrible. For a DA only revolver, a smooth trigger is an absolute must.
The trigger part is huge. I put an Apex spring kit on my 642. That plus Hogue grips made it a 100% better gun.
Amazing, I was going to pick up a lightweight model months ago but so glad I waited.
What’s the amazing part? Is it spending extra money on useless innovation?
632UC is going to be mine. Maybe 2…or 3 of them. 😊
Where are you going to find 32 ammo ?
I'm honestly excited for this more esthetic LCR.
I really wish they could've went 327 Federal, but that said, these look pretty well thought out for the money. Definitely fixed all of the J frame shortcomings!
Why? 32 H&R can hit the correct penetration depth, iirc none of the 327 loads did well out of snubbys. And then if it's more power that you want, 357 is already an option.
I get just wanting one and liking options, but it feels like a really small niche
@@DWalter.27 to me, 32 mag feels like a compromise when you *could* have 327 and have 4 caliber options instead of 3.
Also, I was skeptical of 327 FM from a snub, but I've seen some ballistics testing on here that was actually surprising. Speer makes a 327 load that will hit 1400fps from a 1.9 inch barrel with over 400lb-ft of energy. Generally 357 mag won't even do that well from a snub.
@@TheOfficialCaseMade Agreed. Modern offerings of 327 fed mag get to screaming, even out of snubbies. It's a really overlooked revolver cartridge. All of the hooplah of the 30 super carry a couple off years back looked to me like a whole lot like 327 fed mag auto.
Exactly my thoughts about the flexibility of one more caliber @@TheOfficialCaseMade
Its an aluminum frame. They cant handle 327 mag. There for you would need a much more expensive scandium frame
The Ruger LCR .327 runs: .
32 Long,
.32 H&R Magnum
AND .327.
It's been around for a few years and is an ultra lightweight hammerless 6-shot.
the .32 H&R Magnum is snappy and is a decent defense cartridge, while the .327 is a resoundingly hard-hitting hand-cannon round.
The only issue is that the .32H&R rounds are notoriously hard to find. They come around in batches and vanish, and are pricey. A smart manufacturer might invest in this "new" round as it will be seeing a lot more sales.
Id like to see one in 327 personally.
+1. Kinda curious they didn’t just do it in .327 mag to compete with the LCR…. and you can shoot all the other .32s in it anyway. Holding out hope these end up being de facto “launch editions” and the upgrades start carrying over to all new production j frames
Same. I don't really get why they didn't come out of the gate with 327 since it can also handle 32 H&R.
The 357's have steel or scandium cylinders; the 327's probably need them too. That means they're either heavier or cost over $1,000. Most people struggle with 38, they don't wanna shoot something hotter. So for most people, they don't want a 327. They also used to make 32 H&R, they simply discontinued them years ago. So it makes a lot of sense to do these in 32 H&R as the first guns.
@@DWalter.27 To be fair, they also used to make 327 fed mag. Look up the original 632. This is their relaunch...in the weaker 32 variant. I get why, but I don't have to like it. I think it's a missed opportunity. For 327 folks like myself they could have done a 327 fed mag with their carry upgrades and I'd be much more interested in that. Oh well, Sp101 and LCR it is.
@@Saltpork305 S&W old 632 in 327 were steel frame!
This is a great idea, especially bringing having it in .32 H&R along with .38. I know chris from LuckyGunner is gonna be excited haha.
ok, I want the 32 HR. I got the M432 and just love it. So now I want the M632.
When s & w went to the mim parts they increased their trigger return spring weight as well as the hammer spring making an already difficult revolver to shoot much more difficult. These revolvers need all the help they can get and I'm glad and disappointed that it took s & w two and a half decades to address some of these problems. Now that I'm in my 70's I carry glocks in different configurations because they are easy to shoot well and they work.
Good for you gramps. What’s the difference between a revolver and one of those Glock thing-a-ma-jigs?
New 32 H&R? I'm in! The better sight and grip are just the cherry on top.
When they ship to Italy?
When will they be available?
I handled this New Carry J-Frame at Shot-Show and am going to take Jason's Personal Recommendation to me and try that 32 H&R Magnum Caliber ';-) Thanks Jason and Good Meeting You Sir!
Why didn't they bring it out in 327 mag ? You could still shoot the 32 HR. I know in my area it is a lot easier to find 327 on the shelf.
So those will only be available through Lipseys and not the S&W performance center?
Hi, yes, it's a Lipsey's exclusive. I've been hoping to see someone confirm if the trigger is truly different from a typical performance center trigger job but I haven't seen anyone confirm that yet.
If that new trigger is really how they make it sound then I hope they roll that into new j frames in the future at the very least, if not rolling the change back into current models.
Wish people liked shooting rimless ammo through revolvers. A spring extractor isn't too hard to make, and 9mm is so much cheaper than 38. Plus in a snub nose, you get more muzzle energy with the 9mm than 357, and you get about the same recoil as 38. Best of both worlds.
Would like to see one in 327 mag
I dont
@@Gieszkanne You dont what?
@@kilroy5166 Stupid questions
@@Gieszkanne But there was only one question
I would love this in the 638 model.
So for the price of 2 Glock 19s, you can have 1/3 the firepower and 3 times the trigger pull. That sounds like a great deal
I wonder if .32 ACP will work in a pinch with this, like many other .32 cal revolvers?
It does!
The manufacturer will likely say no but yes, it likely will in practice. 32 cal revolvers past 32 S&W Long easily handle the pressure of 32 acp and it is the same diameter bullet.
32 revolvers are always 'backwards compatible' with the older versions of ammo since they're iterated from each other. 327 fed mag can shoot 32 H&R Magnum which can shoot 32 S&W long which can shoot 32 S&W.
Unless the chamfered cylinders mess something up, I don't see why it wouldn't. Probably doesn't eject nicely or at all, but I imagine you know that already.
Any chance we'll see these features in a 637?
Need 3" Barrels !!! That 1 Extra Inch Makes ALL The Difference.
I would like to see Smith make a 9mm with half moon clips in this style. Most of us have multiple 9mm guns, and adding another caliber is not something we want to do. Lets be realistic if you are choosing a revolver you are probably not carrying extra ammo on person. Its the drop in a coat pocket on the way out the door gun. So a full or half moon clip system works well, and if you do need a reload the moon clip is smaller than a speed loader. The double action only revolver is the only style of gun I really like to have outside a holster in a pocket, so a 9mm makes a lot of sense for us. It also makes the ejection of spent case(s) easier, due to the length of a 9mm vs 38special, with the short ejection rod these guns have.
Nice improvements. Need 10 shot .22lr snubby. Cmon!
Excited to buy a new .32 caliber SW revolver.
I like the .327 Federal Magnum better than the .32 H&R Magnum -- in theory. As a long-time fan of the S&W Model 31, .32 S&W Long, with a three-inch barrel, I will look at this. But . . . 3" is essential for balance and pointing.
Finally, a S&W 442 with great sights!
They should have done it 10+ years ago, but I'm glad the day has finally come. Now to see every model have a better sights option!
My father toted a .32 long
The H&R .32 Mag! 🎉
Nice!!
How much does it weigh? The S&W 332 Ti discontinued at least 20 years ago is 11.5oz. Hard to find. I like the lightest gun possible for .32 Long. But this gun will be much more available and I really like the modern touches especially the real and easily replaceable sights. The 332 sights are typical "you don't need to aim a small pistol" crap by comparison.
Still, I'm a big .32 fan and it's exciting to see more .32s. I don't know why anyone would put down .32s, they're perfect for lightweight and small guns. Even if you're a big man with a full-size steel-framed gun on your person all day long, you might want a small light as a second backup gun, or to wear when you go for a job. Or maybe you just acknowledge the existence of smaller people and recoil-sensitive people.
The best thing S&W could do to advance small-frame revolvers is to introduce or reintroduce smaller frame sizes. The J-frame was developed to fit .38 Special and is oversized for everything smaller. In the heyday of S&W .32s, they had their own smaller I-frame. With modern materials like scandium, maybe they could make an even smaller frame for .32s (or .38s). And .22s were available in an even smaller frame, the M-frame, back in the early Ladysmith. Small revolvers are some of the best small carry handguns (as small semi-autos are less reliable) and there is currently nothing available sized between a double-action .38/357 J-frame and a single-action .22 rimfire NAA mini-revolver.
The scandium J-frame AirLites are all around 10.5-12oz. In a smaller frame, they could be even lighter, which would be suited to the minimal recoil of cartridges like .32 Long, .22LR, and .22WMR.
And as long as I'm making a wishlist, it's generally better for revolvers to fire from the bottom of the cylinder like the Chiappa Rhino, for more comfortable and manageable recoil.
Anyway, the new gun will probably be the best buy for a .32 H&R on the market. Even if it's a little heavier, the superior features and lower price and higher availability will give it the edge over a used 332 Ti .32 H&R AirLite, unless you shoot .32 Long and want the absolute lightest double-action revolver. I believe in having decent sights (including a proper rear sight), so I'd be inclined to buy the new revolver. To get similar upgrades in an old gun like a 332 or Colt Cobra/Agent would require gunsmithing an already expensive old gun. I'm happy to see S&W bring this new .32 and .38 AirWeight snubbie to market.
My hope is that this leads to all the j-frames getting options to have the new sights. I'm at the point right now where the sights are starting to hinder my ability to shoot it better.
I love j-frames and carried a 340PD for several years. A couple months ago I switched to the 22mag because it was a considerably lighter gun (loaded weight) and the ammo was more affordable. As a small dude, I'd consider buying a smaller S&W frame in 22 mag to try it and see what I like; as long as it's not a single action like the NAA.
All 4 are 16oz according to Lipsey's website.
I have never heard 32 and this guy seems like he know what he talking about that that’s excellent to witness
I currently run a 431PD w/ a hammer here in California on a CCW. Please get this on the Dept of Justice List of Approved Handguns so I can get one. Thanks!
Wow, 32 magnum guns are getting easier to find than the ammo for them.
FYI this isn't a 327 mag gun
@DWalter.27 listened again and you're right, is just H&R mag. Taurus introduced an optics ready version of their 327 fed mag model. The point is still true. I'll edit the content. Thanks.
I would buy one if they made a version of the 638 or 448, the one with the shrouded hammer. I love my 638, but so does my dad. I'm having a really tough time getting it back from him.
I own an airweight with a hammer that I bought three years ago. It had a terrible trigger and S&W wouldn’t send me or my gunsmith a trigger kit. They wanted me to send my brand new pistol to them. From experience they would have it at least 6 months. This pistol wasn’t my ccw so I left it cocked unloaded. I shot it about once every week. After about 6 months the trigger pull went down to 6 lbs. it started at 9 lbs. I carry it sometimes because it is lighter and smaller than my 9mm but I like the 10+1 .
The black 32 looks sweet
The real question that should have been asked is why S&W didn't bore the cylinder for the .327 Magnum? Ruger LCR does it and it provides another CC option.
Great J’s!
James, would love to see you do a J-frame comparison video. Maybe these guys vs Kimber k6xs, vs LCR's. More revolver luv for the bois.
Lucky Gunner has a great J-frame vs. LCR comparison. I have both and prefer the LCR.
All of those modifications are good, however they should also offer a 2.5" barrel, which increases the 135 GD another 100 fps, increases sight radius, and reduces recoil. The S&W airweight old 2.5" were great, they need to bring them back.
Sights like that are the best part of the gun should have been on guns for 20 years
100%!
Take my money 💴
Thanks
I'm in. Loving my old 642 currently. I don't agree with any argument to making that in a 32. I can 38+p my 642 all day. And that +p round actually lands according to the sights. Imagine that....
Anyone like the LCR better?
So what problem does this revolver solve (other than losing the ridiculous lock)?