"The God you pray to is too busy being indicted for tax fraud" I laughed so hard when the episode first aired in 1999, and I'm still laughing watching it two decades later it never ceases being funny
@@shalashaska9946 back THEN? I'd say it's a lot easier to offend a person today. To the point though, the problem with the phrase was that Josh, White House representative, said on live television that GOD IS A TAX FRAUD in the country with the most "people who believe angels are real" in the world (that's a quote from another show, but also written by Sorkin). Including their own president, by the way, who is a VERY religious person. This line is too easy to understand as an attack on God, not attack on a church or even a sect.
@@levindeed that’s not true. The “your God” part is a giveaway that he is specifically referring to churches. And it was on point too. Funny thing is, the people that complain about people being too easily offended are also the ones that would be too easily offended by this very statement.
"Victory is mine! Victory is mine! Great day in the morning, people, victory is mine. I drink from the keg of glory, Donna, bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land."
I love how Josh continues the walk and talk, while Charlie's stunned by the thought of meeting the president, until Josh's subconscious catches up with his mouth. "Where the hell did he go?" :P
4:34 - Always thought it was weird Mandy had a partner who was never mentioned after this episode and they make it look like she'd be coming to the White House.
@@MaSeshield Are you kidding? The character (and actress allegedly) were hugely unpopular and crucially had no chemistry with Josh. The connection with Donna had been noticed since the pilot and luckily they went with them.
That final clip is great. I live how Josh can be a bit of a berk, a bit of comic relief, but when he needs to be he's absolutely ice cold. Brilliant character
NOBODY can flip out like Josh! Two occasions: When Josh was suffering from PTSD after his shooting. "PLEASE LISTEN TO ME" and when Otto took his phone during the Santos Transition. "ITS GRIIIIIND IT OUT TIME". His voice does this scream thing that just kills me!
+hanscombe72 true but for the PTSD (something that I suffer from after waking up to a house fire so I understand it a ton) you feel for him..every word he says...the way he says it...the guy that cant be beat...is beaten. BUT......when he yells at Otto...you kinda hate him...ok maybe not hate but he really was being simply..an ass. But I do agree with what your saying ;)
Thank god for Sam being in the room at that point with the phone. He saw the signs and slapped Josh down hard and probably stopping him from a breakdown. Josh wouldn't have taken that from anyone else bar Leo.
@@vinbar35 As much as we loved the parallelism when Josh got Sam on board in season 7, this second time was deeper than that. Sam was Josh's lifeline.
Zephyr642 churches in America don’t pay taxes, so technically any congregation of at least 50 people can apply for tax exemption under the first amendment. This gives way for any quack Christian group to gain political points if they’re rich and popular enough, which is why the religious folk were being “courted” by the White House. Except Jed Bartlett isn’t Protestant, he’s Catholic so in all probability he detests the American Christian Right advocacy groups as much as Josh. But that last point was just my take on it.
Josh: "Donna, if I get fired, I get fired." That was from one snide remark on one television appearance. This shows how naive the White House staff was in their first month on the job.
The last part is where we KNEW that Josh was based on Rahm Emanuel. The only thing missing was profanity. But this was network television, after all ;-)
Is it a coincidence that Andy Samberg played Rahm Emanuel on SNL and Bradley Whitford as Jake's dad in Brooklyn 99 and Josh based on Rahm Emanuel 😮😮😮???
They cut CJ 's response - which was something to the effect of:" You Harvard ...... missed the Dean's list twice ... " Both came up with great insults.
@Geoffrey Zoref That would be "Shiksa feminista." Not "skiska feminist." Shiksa definition, from dictionary dotcom: "a term used especially by a Jew to refer to a girl or woman who is not Jewish. a term used especially by a Jew to refer to a Jewish girl or woman whose attitudes, behavior, or appearance are felt to resemble those of a gentile. a term used by an observant Jew to refer to a Jewish woman who is not religious or is ignorant of Judaism."
Josh is the youngest Bartlet White House sibling that is either the home wrecker or the trouble maker alongside the elder sibling that is Toby and CJ is the always in charge damage control sibling. Love this TV show to bits...
@@samriddhigupta5514yes, and also Will but I remembered that Charlie is the youngest so Josh and Will are the middle kids alongside Sam. The middle triplets that need constant supervising from the older siblings CJ and Toby and always getting owned by the youngest. 😂😂
@Christopher Court wallace pretty sure Mary Marsh is supposed to be an evangelical Protestant, not catholic. At the very least, that particular kind of fundamentalism seems more associated w/ evangelicals.
Josh Lyman: The Trump Administration is like the Bartlett Administration, but only if at the end of every episode the entire staff gets fired and then the president gets impeached.
" The President's a good man, he doesn't hold grudges. That's what he pays me for" *puts on shades and walks away* YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
He's like Malcolm Tucker without the swearing.
We need Josh working for Joe Biden.
@@PaperbackWizard oh God I miss that foul mouthed scotsman
@@captmurdock - Absolutely - Might such a person be Jeffrey Zients?
Yep.
That stinger at the end had me fistpumping!
😆👍✊✊✊
“President Bartlet’s a good man. He’s got a good heart, he doesn’t hold a grudge.
That’s what he pays *me* for.”
All of Josh Lyman in just one line.
Tell me he doesn't look exactly like Sledge Hammer in that final shot...
Josh acting like a heavy is the least believable part of this video.
"The God you pray to is too busy being indicted for tax fraud"
I laughed so hard when the episode first aired in 1999, and I'm still laughing watching it two decades later it never ceases being funny
Can you explain why it's so bad? I know back then everyone got offended by weirder things but I genuinely don't get why it's so insulting
@@shalashaska9946 back THEN? I'd say it's a lot easier to offend a person today.
To the point though, the problem with the phrase was that Josh, White House representative, said on live television that GOD IS A TAX FRAUD in the country with the most "people who believe angels are real" in the world (that's a quote from another show, but also written by Sorkin). Including their own president, by the way, who is a VERY religious person. This line is too easy to understand as an attack on God, not attack on a church or even a sect.
But it was true!
@@levindeed that’s not true. The “your God” part is a giveaway that he is specifically referring to churches. And it was on point too. Funny thing is, the people that complain about people being too easily offended are also the ones that would be too easily offended by this very statement.
@@levindeed Religious nutters have always had incredibly thin skin.
"Victory is mine! Victory is mine! Great day in the morning, people, victory is mine. I drink from the keg of glory, Donna, bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land."
"After hoc, therefore something else hoc". Still one of my favourite lines for some reason.
"After, therefore because of." One of the classic logical fallacies.
No, mother, I'm not sassing you in Eskimo talk.
I always picture him thinking "hawk" not "hoc"
Mine too
The only bit of Latin I know, and it's 100% because of this show.
" i've already got a job"
" for
the
moment"
brilliant delivery by the late john spencer
I laughed hysterically when he said that
"can u think of a single reason that isn't personal"
"she used to be my girlfriend"
"that's good enough for me"
Bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land
One of these days I'm going to use that line.
I drink from the keg of glory!
@@muttleycrew Yes! You simply CANNOT eat, "The finest Muffins & Bagels in all the Land", without 'first' quaffing from "The Keg of Glory!"
It’s been 10 years.
Have you an opportunity to use that line yet?
But, I prefer the first part of the line: “Victory is mine! Victory is mine! Great day in the morning, people. Victory is mine!”
Josh and Sam's blind-leading-the-blind walk and talk is still one of my favorite moments from the whole series.
OMG, that is one of mine as well, the fast dialogue in this show was awesome!!! I love that Sam and Josh exchange.
"You picked Central Indiana State over Notre Dame?! Are you insane?!" "Technically you did"
Yeah, but not quite as bad as possibly picking "Yeshiva University over the Dallas Cowboys".............HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
That was the clip where I first really took notice of the chemistry between them!
It’s particularly bad because Donna used Josh’s name to bet against the alma mater of the very president for whom they work.
' She answers to me...She answers to Toby '...
I still laugh
I love how Josh continues the walk and talk, while Charlie's stunned by the thought of meeting the president, until Josh's subconscious catches up with his mouth.
"Where the hell did he go?" :P
I always loved the scene of Josh slowly revealing to Leo that Mandy was working for Lloyd Russell and Leo's wince and pained: "MARGARET!"
We need a compilation of Leo yelling "MARGARET!"
@@brittanybesecker6153and Josh screaming "Donna!"
I was given a "Something else hoc" coffee mug as a gift. Love it!
"That's what he pays me for."
Josh "You'll sleep with the fishes" Lyman
Grace Skerp qqqqqqqqqqq
4:34 - Always thought it was weird Mandy had a partner who was never mentioned after this episode and they make it look like she'd be coming to the White House.
I love how they tried to put Josh and Mandy together - but Donna was a way better character and they had much more chemistry
And she was so unpopular that she disappeared at the end of season one and was never mentioned again.
@@GrainneMhaol she actually wasnt unpopular. Sorkin just decided to go another way
@@MaSeshield Are you kidding? The character (and actress allegedly) were hugely unpopular and crucially had no chemistry with Josh. The connection with Donna had been noticed since the pilot and luckily they went with them.
Edwin Andrade She was pretentious, snobby, out of touch, boring, annoying, one-dimensional, nothing funny about her
@@MaSeshield she was a total failure. Inconsistent and her role was unclear. A political consultant doing PR? We didn’t miss her.
I never could stand Mandy. Then she just disappeared and I was happy.
Second that
She was quite good in One Tree Hill though,
I never understood the point of her character other than to yell at people that disagree with her.
It was Amy I couldn't stand.
The character OR the actress.
@@jkacvbhijfn right and they already have Josh, Toby, CJ and pretty much everyone to do that
Josh made wearing a suit while carrying a backpack look good. Who did that before Josh?
He didn't make the outfit look good. His personality and values made him attractive.
Yes, wholly agree.
@@bradypostma5167 says you!
I've been watching tv for more than half a century and The West Wing is the best show EVER.
That final clip is great. I live how Josh can be a bit of a berk, a bit of comic relief, but when he needs to be he's absolutely ice cold. Brilliant character
NOBODY can flip out like Josh! Two occasions: When Josh was suffering from PTSD after his shooting. "PLEASE LISTEN TO ME" and when Otto took his phone during the Santos Transition. "ITS GRIIIIIND IT OUT TIME". His voice does this scream thing that just kills me!
+hanscombe72 true but for the PTSD (something that I suffer from after waking up to a house fire so I understand it a ton) you feel for him..every word he says...the way he says it...the guy that cant be beat...is beaten. BUT......when he yells at Otto...you kinda hate him...ok maybe not hate but he really was being simply..an ass. But I do agree with what your saying ;)
Thank god for Sam being in the room at that point with the phone. He saw the signs and slapped Josh down hard and probably stopping him from a breakdown. Josh wouldn't have taken that from anyone else bar Leo.
@@vinbar35 As much as we loved the parallelism when Josh got Sam on board in season 7, this second time was deeper than that. Sam was Josh's lifeline.
Well, sometime soon, one of Josh's lines may be coming soon: "Lady, the god you pray to is too busy being indicted for tax fraud!"
Bring me the finest muffins and bagels in all the land!
Yes, I drank from the keg of glory that morning. I'm still waiting on my muffins and bagels though. DONNA!!!
Too busy being indicted for tax fraud.... I love Lyman!
rasicar I laughed hysterically when he said that
Could you explain the line if possible.
Zephyr642 churches in America don’t pay taxes, so technically any congregation of at least 50 people can apply for tax exemption under the first amendment. This gives way for any quack Christian group to gain political points if they’re rich and popular enough, which is why the religious folk were being “courted” by the White House. Except Jed Bartlett isn’t Protestant, he’s Catholic so in all probability he detests the American Christian Right advocacy groups as much as Josh. But that last point was just my take on it.
Josh: "Donna, if I get fired, I get fired."
That was from one snide remark on one television appearance. This shows how naive the White House staff was in their first month on the job.
I can see so many of the characters from "Newsroom" in all of these, you can tell how that show grew from the framework laid out here.
DONNA!!!! The internet made ism's about me.
LOL
My fictional idol. Josh is the man!
I miss these type of series.
I like the LBJ ‘you’re gonna vote my way and if you do I might remember your name’
Where are you going?
I'm following you!
OK. let's not speak of this to anyone
Therese Christiansen ~ that small little exchange was one of my favorites of the whole series. The writing was amazing
The last part is where we KNEW that Josh was based on Rahm Emanuel. The only thing missing was profanity. But this was network television, after all ;-)
Is it a coincidence that Andy Samberg played Rahm Emanuel on SNL and Bradley Whitford as Jake's dad in Brooklyn 99 and Josh based on Rahm Emanuel 😮😮😮???
"Sam, do you maybe wanna close the door?"
Technically, that was Sam’s mistake because he forgot to close the door before telling Josh what he had done.
The beginning of the Josh Donna love hate relationship that ends up with a great love story.❣️❣️❣️❣️
Donna was awesome. She and Margaret were perfect characters.
You knew they would end up together from day one 😂 their relationship was always the best
She answers to me and she answers to Toby
Love that moment
Haha, Josh called C.J a "Paranoid Berkley Skiska Feminist." I don't remember that. That's hilarious.
They cut CJ 's response - which was something to the effect of:" You Harvard ...... missed the Dean's list twice ... " Both came up with great insults.
Yankee jackass
"Elitist, Harvard, fascist, missed-the-dean's-list-two-semesters-in-a-row, Yankee jackass.@@brontewcat
BrokenWof2990. Ha Ha. I didn’t recall the context of my post. When I saw your response with me I thought “What did I say?”
@Geoffrey Zoref
That would be "Shiksa feminista."
Not "skiska feminist."
Shiksa definition, from dictionary dotcom:
"a term used especially by a Jew to refer to a girl or woman who is not Jewish.
a term used especially by a Jew to refer to a Jewish girl or woman whose attitudes, behavior, or appearance are felt to resemble those of a gentile.
a term used by an observant Jew to refer to a Jewish woman who is not religious or is ignorant of Judaism."
Lady, the God you pray to is too busy being indicted for tax fraud
lol the muffins and bagels line is a classic
This is gonna be an unbearable day
And the keg of glory. =)
That little victory dance he does while she’s hanging up her coat 🤣🤣
With every line, I had to stop and breathe I was laughing so hard. Josh Lyman and Toby Ziegler are the best characters on this show...
I REALLY want that "Bartlet for America" poster.
4:07 is just like Abbot and Costello..... "Third Base!"
He's fucking brilliant
Man do I ever love Josh!
So she answers to him and she answers to...Toby?
Josh has the political equivalent of Tourette’s syndrome...
He's downloading things from the Internet uncontrollably?
Did anyone else kinda hate Mandy or is that just me
Just wish the volume wasn't so low. Could you bring it up a lot?
00:02:16 Absolutely, one the BEST 'Josh-isms', of The West Wing!
5:38 This is still one of my all time favorite moments in television. There are not enough scenes where a guy just screams like a little girl.
"That's what he pays me for."
"whoa that was WAY too far"
Josh even shocked himself with that crack to C.J.
Josh has had some great lines, but I'm not sure he's got the chest-thumping thing down.
I think that’s kinda what they were going for, something a little cheesy
woah, that was way too far......
She answers to ME and she answers to Toby.
therefore something else hoc...brilliant!
Loathed Mandy and Annoying Amy , Donna made for him
Susan Tuckett oh I couldn't stand amy or Mandy both annoying af
Donna and Josh are like Pinky and the Brain.
Yeah they were the worst
Mandy was short lived thank god. Amy ugh. I felt like she took Rob’s airtime. Now I just skip her scenes.
Love the character, but loved Donna more considering she tolerated him for 7 1/2 years, yknow, till they had episodes showing them as a thing
Josh is the youngest Bartlet White House sibling that is either the home wrecker or the trouble maker alongside the elder sibling that is Toby and CJ is the always in charge damage control sibling.
Love this TV show to bits...
And Sam is the middle child right 😂😂?
@@samriddhigupta5514yes, and also Will but I remembered that Charlie is the youngest so Josh and Will are the middle kids alongside Sam. The middle triplets that need constant supervising from the older siblings CJ and Toby and always getting owned by the youngest. 😂😂
@@jonnnyren6245 where does Donna come tho in this dynamic? And Margaret? 🤣
@@samriddhigupta5514 definitely above Josh 🤣
8:29 - 9:59 If only Joe Biden had one of his guys have this conversation with Joe Manchin and the other senators blocking his agenda...
His agenda is as nuts as the Republicans.
I would take Yeshiva University and the verses over the Dallas Cowboys if it was the Chidon HaTanach.
He and I basically treat everything the same way: Straight into a hole and then back out again once we find out the hole is only an inch deep.
My brother and I use this line whenever we can!
Loved Josh
why is "too busy being indicted for tax fraud" an insult?
@Christopher Court wallace pretty sure Mary Marsh is supposed to be an evangelical Protestant, not catholic. At the very least, that particular kind of fundamentalism seems more associated w/ evangelicals.
Who the heck are the 27 thumbs down people...maybe an up is down and down is up countries.
Donna picking Central Indiana State with no point spread against Notre Dame. 😅
9:50 - 9:56 : Can I get a YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Yeshiva University over the Dallas Cowboys haha best line
Like if Peter Venkman was a politician.
Pagers wow
That's what he pays me for.
"Paranoid Berkley feminista"
“Paranoid Berkeley shiksa feminista!”
Is there one of these for Sam?
There was a funny intelligent joke josh shares with donna . Anyone remember it ?
I all ready have!
One eighth of a great onsombol
how i would be in the white house
5:44 - C.J. Craig had dam fine looking legs ...
She really did. I'm reminded of an exchange from season 3:
Bruno: Man, you have got a killer body, you know that?
C.J.: In fact, I do.
Allison Hanney is a goddess.
@1:13 r3ally?
it's so easy to forget how useless a character Mandy was because the show was so great. but wow was she terrible.
Josh Lyman: The Trump Administration is like the Bartlett Administration, but only if at the end of every episode the entire staff gets fired and then the president gets impeached.
3:00 Even I don't make that bet and I know CFB like I know Farsi.
Patently unlikable and the embodiment of Sorkin's self satisfaction.
OK.
It's a good thing unlikeablility is his best quality
That was the point of his character. On a hockey team, he'd be the enforcer.
He was the best character, but whatever.
Joshism is the powerful religion in this world 🌎🌎
Love the character, but loved Donna more considering she tolerated him for 7 1/2 years, yknow, till they had episodes showing them as a thing
Cause let's face it, man's an ass