[FreeMind] MAVE: (메이브) - Pandora (Choreography fix ver.)
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2023
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ALBUM : 《PANDORA'S BOX》
TITLE : PANDORA
ARTIST : MAVE:
PERFORMANCE DIRECTOR : FreeMind 유정완 @freemindomg
CHOREOGRAPHER : FreeMind 채다솜 @fm_dasomm_
김태우 @kasper0524
조나인 @nain_jerkfamily
Film & Edit : 왕경식 @king_gyeongsixx
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What?? They are just choreographers?? I seriously thought they were the real MAEVE artists. They certainly have the looks and charisma and talent for it.
They should be it would be absolutely amazing
That’s them without the AI
they're the one that's doing the mo-cap for the MAVE.
Maybe they're the dancers, and the singers are different. Who knows.
@@x..3998 if it's them did you hear them sing?
THIS is the reason AI products will never win over "real" people.
There's simply no way to deliver the immense talent, energy and sass these 4 did. Make it as realistic as you can, but it will never beat this super impressive performance!
I have to agree. The animation for this company hasn’t come far enough to deliver the textures and dynamics in the movement of the dancing, and the charisma and facial expressions that come with real people dancing.
This!! They can’t replicate the stage presence (yet?) which is one of the biggest components of performing as a kpop idol
i get what you mean but the animations you’re referring to aren’t made by an artificial intelligence, there’s professional animators and artists delivering that work as a team and it’s got just as much effort put into it. it’s okay not to prefer it over a dancer’s performance, but don’t discredit it implying it isn’t also an effort made by real people
as tech advances AI will eventually reach this level of emotion. u cant deny that. however now i think mave is already showing amazing capabilites for a virtual group. the avatars are so realistic and move smoothly! but i also agree with you too :)
You know the dance is motion captured right
yeah... this is hella impressive, i can't imagine a real person singing and dancing to this perfectly at the same time
The reason it’s from a AI
@@katanari. The ai don't even dance perfectly in the first place lol- far from it. Real humans are irreplaceable in situations like these.
@@katanari. CGI!!
@@p.a.681well obviously that’s the case-
well thank god they are a kpop group and 90% of them lip sync so they dont need to worry about that! I would 100% understand them doing it because at least they slaying with a hard choreography
if mave were real people singing and dancing like this they will be the leaders of the 4th gen
Exactlyy
No
Atp Y'all are just exaggerating everything
@@fai.z4ur because its good why wouldn't we be exaggerating it✌️
If the dancers were a actual group and debuted no doubt they would be leaders of 4th gen
I feel like their footwork and body rolls just doesn't get captured by the AI. The moves are soooo sharp and articulate here.
They’re so smooth! I agree! Parts of the choreo look jerky in the AI one. I’m glad someone covered it
This is real choreographers
For the love of god please stop calling Mave "AIs"
@@fai.z4ur but they are
@@jass254 they're 3D models not AI, There's a big difference.
I know that you guys are professional choreographers, that moves so freakin insane
is that the nave members or other dancers?
mave*
@@luvchaer neither. They’re the choreographers
@@luvchaer other dancer
@@luvchaer they are dancers (also choreographes). I think they performed pandora's choreography with more detailed movements than the ai members here, according to the ((fix)) choreography ((ver.))
People really forgetting that MAVE:
-Had real people create the choreography
-Had real people sing the song
-Had real people create the models
Yet they still hate on it. Even if it was real, bet they'd still hate something about them
Ikr! For sure the dancers here are amazing & talented, but that doesn't mean people should shit on Mave just for being virtual & have movements not as fluid as real humans even tho it was actually motion captured smh
That's the problem, the movements are jarring and off-putting. The talent behind it is immeasurable, but the CGI concept was just executed badly.
edit: word choice
@@ahahaha3587 Imo the cgi was executed brilliantly even if it's not 'real-human' smooth. The concept of making a virtual girl group itself is a first in Korea so ofc not everything will be smooth. The fact that they're the ones who initiated it in Korea is already amazing in itself w/ beutiful graphics and cgi
@@ahahaha3587 The CGI was not executed badly at all. In fact it's more lifelike than K/DA given the textures and details. What really gives away that it's CGI is the stiff facial expressions and the occasional glitches in the dance animation.
And why AI is?
2:46 the girl in the center made this part so exciting, her technique is insane!
THIS CHOREO IT'S SO FVCKING COOL 😭😭😭
every minute I’m like
PANDORAAA it’s so addicting
@@purejudas SAME 😭
Right I love this group so much
I understand why AI are made to dance this (i know they use motion capture) but um i wouldn't want a real human sing live and yet dance to this for a whole month omg what
@@katanari. probably even more than a month
would’ve been so cool if the debut was actual people performing like this
Ikr, with this song and choreo, they literally can compete with the other big groups for sure.
Fr!! the concept is so much better with REAL idols, there vocals too 😫✨
I think it's actual people just with the ai over them in this video
@@saintIpie0000 unluckily they’re not from big 4, so definitely not
@@samabug Motion capture and CGI, you mean.
They are really good dancers, their moves are so sharp. They have also good stage presence. It would be better if MAVE was a real girl group
MAVE was never meant to be a real group. The group is by Netmarble and one of their members is from a game called Overprime. From the start, they have always been planned to be 3D and Virtual like KDA and TRUE DAMAGE
These are the choreographers; not the actual MAVE members.
@@lesyeuxdeniiniii yes I already know it but thanxx ☺️
@@melisch8572 It's ok
@@lesyeuxdeniiniii thanxx 🩵 you too
노래랑 안무 진짜 최근에 본 것 중에 탑으로 좋음; 심지어 메이브 컨셉도 너무 좋아서... 진짜 이런 기획이 인간 아이돌이 아니라 버추얼 아이돌이라는 게 아까울 정도로 좋다
@@myeongjunchae 뭔소리야 컨셉이랑 춤 노래가 좋다했지 외모얘기했나 .. ㅋ
그럼 에스파2되는건데...
@@user-eo6up5er82 이 노래를 에스파한테 줬어야지..
imagine MAVE is real persons sing live and dance like this, they would be the new Monster in kpop history
I want known name who sing this song 😭 it's pity what they are not a real people
@@Rinrinarink technically there are real people behind the mave characters. It kinda works the same way a vtuber character or full body vr avatar would work. Since they're virtual, all it'd take is some editing on the actual girls to get their desired results. I'd also doubt that there's a bot behind their singing.
@@mokacoffeebear this! I've been saying that they're playing it safe being Ai's because if they were to reveal the actual girls hell would break loose saying they copied aespa in every damn aspect
They're professional dancers, and they can't dance and sing like this. It's hard for a real person to do it because it's an artificial intelligence idol that dances the choreography without considering breathing when singing.
Now the era of AI idols has opened.
That choreography is sooooo good. Makes sense that an AI Idol group „performs“ this because it would be extremely challenging to sing while dancing like that
They are not not Ai they’re 3d animation
You should watch Gfriend/txt/seventeen/the boyz choreo and on by bts
@@realone2987 en parle des girls
THIS
@@realone2987 loona and dreamcatcher as well.
사람이 하니까 안무의 매력이 훨씬 잘 보인다... ㅈㄴ 좋은 안무였네 역동적이고 강한 힘이 느껴져서 진짜 좋음
근데 절대 노래 부르면서 이거 못 출듯. 노래도 기교가 꽉꽉 담겨있는데 춤까지 이모양이면...
1:29 their move are very clean and seriously every time i see this girl show up, im just like "damn i love her" she so freaking amazing, especially in the *tututututu* move, like how? thats to smooth bro, jezz i love you girl.
This is definitely one of the hardest kpop choreos! So much energy! Dayum
Of course they are not humans lol
@@deukiez the choreographers are human lol.
@@deukiez to make the characters they dance with a device, once the virtual choreography is created, congratulations.
@@_kadi09 they don't sing of course it's easier 💀
@@laurarv97 nah, i doubt it's easy. +I'm talking about just the choreo, not live singing+dancing.
This group would slay so hard if it was an actual group
It is an actual group??💀
@@fai.z4ur like real people not ai
@@hyeinbunz oh nah, y'all would be dog shitting on them if they were real people
@@fai.z4ur don't generalize this cause I wouldn't have💀
@@hyeinbunz genuine question, do you like your own comment?
After all these months I still think that this is the best choreo I’ve seen in kpop history. It’s so exhausting, my belly still hurts when I try the moves. These ladies killed it!!!! ❤
The A.I. concept is cool but this just hits so much harder. These girls deserve so much credit!!!
one of the most badass choreo i've ever seen
RIGHTTTT
fr
REAL
Frrrr
한국어로 번역하니 가장 나쁜 안무라고 뜨길래 엥..? 하고 검색해보니 badass가 다소 공격적인, 거친 속된 말로 개쩌는 그런 의미라고 하는군요!
I really like the choreo and how they made the whole AI concept so real in promoting them like a real group. Very cool!
XD
As choreographers and dancers, they all look visually stunning and beautiful!!! Not to mention with the moves??? I'd assume that they are actually MAVE members lol. Perfecto!
Okay, thank goodness I wasn't the only one with that observation. 😅
these people are so talented.. the fact that mave: members are just animated humans is insane. and that these are only the choreographers and the girls singing are a whole nother group of people. wow.
This is hands down one of the best choreographs for a girl group song in a long time. Wow.
LITERALLY I LOVE IT
the choreo make the song even better and these girls even have great stage presence and facial expression like a real group.
@@tokkiliin girl they said real group obviously meaning kpop group idols
@@tokkiliin i think they mean that these dancers look like professional idols
@@snezhnyyangel well they're professional dancers
@@sayhikaru yes, i was just clarifying for the comment above
이 분들이 메이브 실존 인물이면 지금 당장 1위 찍음. 춤이 이렇게 멋진줄 첨 알았네.
길거리에서 댄스 커버 영상 한 번 찍어 올리면 조회수 1000만 예상합니다. 케이팝 인 퍼블릭 커버 댄스 부탁해요!
와 진짜 개멋있다 이렇게 멋있는 춤이었다니 진짜 이건 사람이 춰야된다 와...
🧸🫂🫂🫂
노래할때 호흡을 고려할 필요가 없이 빡세게 만든 안무네요. 당연히 ai인 메이브여서 가능한 거겠지만요.
그게 메타아이돌의 큰 장점이겠지요. 숨도 안쉬고. 아프지도 않고. 어디든 갈 수 있으니...
@@qrdthh 실제 댄서란다
I’m American and the international fans are so stupid. They don’t realize this lol
@@user-gw6jp5dk4r ai든 뭐든 둘다 개고생 하는건 똑같음
@Mg Lee 아 웃겨 ㅋㅋㅋ 우주여행하면서 춤추겟네 나중엔 ㅋㅋ 유영하면서 아 ㅋㅋ
[최초공개] 화성에서 춤추는 메이브
와....안무가분들이 추는 리얼버전 이네요.
😊😊❤❤
This is literally my FAVE ever choreography out of all kpop choreo 😭
와 프리마인드,, 관절이 너무 자유자재다 대박… 판도라 후렴 안무에서 저런 어려운 동작에서도 힘이 다 느껴짐….
❤❤❤ 🚺🚺🚺 🫂🫂🫂
Wow the energy and the choreography is insane
Yeah they should sing and then we won’t need MAVE lol
확실히 추는 건 ai니까 라이브나 그런 문제는 없으니까... 안무 꽉꽉 채웠네... 레알 안무 장난 없고 잘 춘다................
ai가 아니라 버추얼 아이돌
ai로 보는게 맞지 않나
@@mella1208 그쵸 버츄얼? 이면 사람이 직접해야 하는데 쟤네는 사람이 추는 게 아니니까
The dancer who danced as siu was so good. Her moves are so sharp. The others too. I really liked the way this dancer danced this part: 2:35-2:43 and here,i love this part: 2:46 she can dance so well.
Which one???
@@hdjsk-ze7nhwhite top black pants and ponytail
I literally timestamped 2:46 too lol she gave me chills
와, 실제 안무 영상은 엄청나네.. 그래픽으로 이 역동적인 움직임을 구현해내진 못한거구나...
얼굴은 메이브 애들보다 못생겼어도 춤은 메이브보다 200배 자연스럽고 파워풀한 느낌이 드네요!
사람이 추니까 너무너무너무 멋있다.. 메이브가 췄을땐 강약조절 하나도 없고 그냥 안무가 붕 뜨는 느낌임…
이렇게 보니까 진짜 개개개멋진데 차라리 이곡을 다른 아이돌한테 주지..
실제 아이돌이면 안무수정해야돼요. 저 동작으로 노래할 호흡이 안나옴
생각좀하고 살아라 이안무로 어떻게 노래하냐ㅉㅉ 딱 메이브밖에 답이없지 그만큼 지금뜨고있고 생각없이 ㅊㅊ누른 인간들도 많네ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
아씨발ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 님들아 저 빠순이 6년차예요…시발 안무수정 당연히 해야겠지 그걸 모르겠냐.. 내가 언제 이 안무를 그대로 주라고 했냐.. 의견 다르다고 득달같이 달려들어서 물어뜯는거봐 ㄷㄷ 무서워용 ㅜ
@@user-cm5hp5iu9q 욕하면 글 가려진다. 알았으면 그냥 조용
이러면서 발전해가는 거죠..ㅜㅜ이런 좋은 곡으로 만들지 않았으면 ai아이돌한테 관심도 안줬을거니까
that was one of the best choreographies i've seen in my life.... so interesting and energetic. amazing.
This is just unreal! The dedication, the energy, the movement. They are top-notch dancers cant say anything less! 😳
I actually prefer this over the mv. The ladies being avatars just takes away the human element from it for me so I find virtual performances cold and lacking.
but they were motion captured by these people XD
it's like saying you prefer Hatsune Miku's Voice Actor than Hatsune Miku
@@kane3383 That's cool and all but this is my preference. I like live performers, not virtual ones 🤷♀️ it's way more entertaining to me. I've watched this more than the mv. I don't care how good the avatars are, the choreography is much better here. There's just a disconnect for me when it's a virtual performance. It's missing something for me.
The virtual members are not AI. Everything about them was made by humans (song, music video, 3D models, etc) + their vocals are from human singers. No actual artificial intelligence was used.
@@ashrise geezus ppl yes I know, ok I guess I have to be blunt since no one seems to get it... virtual performances are cold and lacking. I'm not a fan. I prefer seeing live performances. Not animated ones.
@@prmtv You wrote "The ladies being AI", that's why I supposed you didn't know they were not AI.
Besides that, I agree with your point. Mave's virtual performance is indeed cold and lacking. It could have been better.
그냥 여기댄서들을 데뷔시켜 춤 존나잘추네
ㅇㅈ
와꾸는 둘째치고 노래를 존나 못할텐데 가능하겟음?
@@nomuddak 존니 잘할 수도 있잖음? 뭔 패기임?
@@nomuddak 남 와꾸를 왜 니가 평가해
This performance was so impressive that left me speechless for a while and now I writing this with a big smile in a face. Thank you for sharing this vibe and inspiring people!
They slayed this choreo so hard its so addicting!!
What I like about this group is that the virtual members play the role of idols, but in the songs and choreography there are professional people who show their great talent.
아니 어떻게 이리 절제되고 카리스마가 있는거지... 딱딱 끊어지는 파워풀한 안무하고 속도감이 장난 아니네요 멋있습니다 빨리감기하는줄 알았어요
ㅇㅈ ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Not me coming back every day bcz I am addicted to how good they dance
헐대박 진짜 장난아니다ㄷㄷ 얼굴도 이쁜데 춤도 저렇게 빡시게 잘추다니 좃나 개멋잇음ㄷㄷ 진짜 이 안무에 노래는 메타돌인 메이브만 소화가능함
Leave it up to Freemind to make iconic choreography
You can FEEL the the stamina and energy in this video, and I really want to attempt this choreo as a stamina builder.
No wonder why this was used as the choreo for MAVE✨
이 언니들 얼굴도 ai같이 예뻐서 춤이 더 사는 듯.. 일단 춤이 미쳤다
4人とも素晴らしいんだけど特に全身白コーデのお姉さんの踊り方が超好き
Kasper is a genius for creating this things, I love him so much
안 그래도 이렇게 멋진 안무가 어디에서 나왔을까 궁금했는데 프리마인드였군요 ㅠㅠ 안무 멋지게 만들어주셔서 감사합니다! 메이브의 세계관이 잘 보이는 안무인 것 같아요!
I honestly thought this was the official Mave members but in real life. This is by far the best kpop dance cover I've seen!!
Not a cover. These are the choreographers of this dance
all 4 of them really fit and suit the girl group..they got the aura of MAZE...
The choreography is insane, their facial expressions, energy and charisma is totally unmatched. It's been a while since I've seen a group like them, Good Music, hella powerful energy, etc. Even the AI members are unmatched. Their Vocals, their dance powers, their visuals, their MV, their song, everything is so unmatched. They deserve a lot more attention, recognition and views then they are already receiving. Totally Unmatched.
The choreo is so satisying😭 I cant stop dancing the chorus
아 진짜 이 영상 몇번째 보는지 모르겠다 진짜 네 분 다 각자 맡은 멤버가 보임 춤선도 좋으심
안무만 한다고해도, 정말 보는 사람을 훅~ 끌어들이는 마력이 있는 듯 합니다. 웬만하면,뮤직비디오 그렇게 자주 보지 않지만, 간혹 흥을 찾을 때 이 영상 찾아보게 되네요. 안무 멋집니다. 다들 멋지네요. 제경우 원곡 MV보다, 이 영상을 더 보게 됩니다.
The choreography looks EVEN better on people, WOOOW! You girls are amazing
Oh my god that's really hard, the tempo and upper & bottom body move at different beat. It must be hard for the CGI team to sample it frame by frame, unless they body track these dancers doing the whole choreo. BIG RESPECT to all crew who involved in MAVE project
I respect the hard work it took to design, choreograph, and render mave, but they don’t hold a candle (dance wise) to these 4.
This is better than the AI!!!!!!!! Can they just debut?
Agreed
They are dancers 😐
They are the dancers/choreographers, the voices come from another group of girls. But if they could sing, they'd definitely kill
1) mave are not ai
2) not every professional dancer can/wants to be an idol
Its Amazing girls 🤘
Their dance really smooth and powerful. TBH, I prefer this over original MV.
BRO THE CHORUS SLAPS AND THE CHOREOGRAPHY MAKES IT MORE AWESOME
STOP I LOVE THEIR MOVES AND ENERGY!!
와우~ 대박 대박~ 대단하네요. 정말 파워풀한 춤이네요~ 멋지네요. 메이브 판도라도 멋지지만 현실도 멋지네요
THIS, is perfection to me. I mean, virtual idols can be very entertaining. I really enjoyed the K/DA music videos and I love their songs for example. But I don't feel the same kind of energy and emotions then when I look at artists like these real, breathing, passionate and incredibly talented girls.
Yes now they have to dance and sing like that and we won’t need Mave!
와... 이건 도저히 안무랑 노래랑 같이 할 수 없는 헬 난이도인데
노래랑 안무 완벽한데 라이브로 들을 일은 없을듯 ㅋㅋ
포니테일 하신분 팔이 길어서 춤선이 진짜 시원해보임..... 시선강탈 오져...
OMG! each of you danced perfectly! slaayy ❤️🔥
와 사람이 추는거 보니까 완전 묵직묵직시원시원 다하네 ㅜㅜㅜ 너무멋있고 훨씬 맛깔난다... 강약조절 미쳤다 ...
The hand gesture in the 2nd half of the song is HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD! Extremely floored by this choreography and kudos to the dancers on an amazing performance.
WOOOOOW the moves are SOOOOOOOOO clean, sharp and everything else omg. Like its literally perfect
와 진짜 안무 빈틈이 없네... 언제 쉬냐...ㄷㄷ
This is so impressive it’s insane… y’all ATE this choreo so effortlessly and the camera man deserves an award
this choreo is so crazy omg .. it can be used to lose weight!!!
wow they're gorgeous!! you can tell they're professionals, their dance moves are so crisp and mesmerizing to watch
the intro was very VERY smooth!! The whole dance and the way they carried it altogether - amazing!
이언니들 너무 멋있다 안무는 진짜 미쳤다
Ga tau gua mau bilang apa.. Ini sih bagus banget dancenya😭 ..
Wih ada Nyai Kadita lagi ngidol
@@justwahidelse8620 gua ke darat pengen liat mereka goyang🤣 ... Setelah masa promosi abis .. Ya we balik lagi sambil bawa si zena ke dunia game.. Ya walapun beda kasta gamenya
@@Kadita._ jangan lupa ngawal skin baju loh, keburu dibalap Pharsa ama Selena yg udah rilis survey baru.
@@justwahidelse8620 awas aja kalo ga di kasih skin lagi gua... Bintang 1
Iya bagus, kesel bgt kenapa banyak yg hujat heran 🙃
와 사람이 직접추니까 또 맛이다르네여 강약들어간거보니 엄청좋다
They have so much energy omg
damn the budget for their debut metaverse got freemind to choreo for an AI group!
Keren banget choreo dance nya
Keren banget, lagunha juga bagus
Lagunya aja ngeri, koreo nya juga, pantesan aja match banget
Cocok lagunya buat NMIXX padahal
@@forlucky8115 hahh paan sih wkwkw
@@forlucky8115 wkwkwkwk..ga ada mix beat nya..jd ga cocok
They just deserves a stage performance 😊
If they perform the concerts for mave I’d have no problem that would be awesome
I am in love with the one who has ponytail wearing white jacket💚💚
This “human” version is SO MUCH better omg ❤ thank you for it
Vendo as AI dançando parece ser fácil... mas vendo pessoas reais dançando é super difícil e energético, enfim amei
SIM, surreal a diferença
Tem partes da coreo das ia que eu nem entendia o movimento, mas com as dancers humana kkkk deu pra entender
@@whypudim716 movimentos virtuais KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK mds é tudo mt rápido a vantagem do idol virutal e que respiração n vai faltarkkkkkkkk
the girl with white top w ponytail up looks like , miyeon from gidle
I hope Mave release a real human version~😌✨🔥because their debut song is really good!!🔥❤️
That would be awesome. But just wondering, if they do that. They will be compared to Aespa.
Because Aespa they have their AI and Human characters.
Many of the fans will not be or maybe not happy about it.
Or maybe it is an obvious reference considering K/DA also bec. They're one of the most successful Debut. ☺️☺️
But I can say, this AI group is a BOP too. The vocals are so beautiful. ♥️♥️
@@mickoyytchannel5491 well they can cry about it ig
@@ryuean yeah... But for sure most of them like this new girl group. ☺️
@@mickoyytchannel5491 that’s good ☺️
@@mickoyytchannel5491 not only Aespa can do this concept lol😂
Gimana gak keren coba...3 orang genius yang membuat choreo ini jadi keren dan energik.
3 orang?siapa?
@@intanpermata9533 atuh liat choreo nya siapa di deskripsi sama di video
@@intanpermata9533 dasom, kasper sama nain.
@@kurniawanhadinata8002 waah...ya pantes aja keren...itu kan 3 nama gede di dunia perkoreografian....
@@octapuszero2965 iya maknya keren
쩌네요..
뮤비 보고 그래픽이 공연하는게 느낌이 와닿지가 않아서 노래 몇 번 듣고 말았는데,
제대로 댄서분들이 추는걸 보니까 진짜 멋있고 안무도 좋네요. 진짜 사람한테 갔으면 좋았을걸...노래와 안무가 아깝다는 생각이 드네요. ;;;
They could be a group themselves . They are stunningg
The original choreography is Soo amazing 😍
The song is definitely good and the choreo rock!
The chorography is insane i can't believe the amount of talent and effort put to this masterpiece
one of the most impressive choreography I've ever seen