his is the hour when the mysteries emerge. A strangeness so hard to reflect. A moment so moving, goes straight to your heart, The vision has never been met. The attraction is held like a weight deep inside, Something I'll never forget. The pattern is set, her reaction will start, Complete but rejected too soon. Looking ahead in the grip of each fear, Recalls the life that we knew. The shadow that stood by the side of the road, Always reminds me of you. How can I find the right way to control, All the conflict inside, all the problems beside, As the questions arise, and the answers don't fit, Into my way of things, Into my way of things.
In January 1980 Joy Division played their only Berlin gig at Kant Kino, a converted movie theater in Charlottenburg. The gig was an infamous bust -- half-empty venue, shtty sound, hostile audience. Komakino was their response song, it's one of the last songs they wrote and it is far more jagged than anything on Closer. Berlin loves you, Joy Division! We are sorry we were such a shtty audience.
I remember that there was a New Order gig they were doing in Berlin, Bernard called the a horrible audience, and that they would not be playing Berlin again, If I remember correctly.
Well at least they did once in Berlin. Here in Malaysia, there's just only a plenty number of JD fans. Most of Malaysians dislike post-punk😢. Unlike me, of course.
Ian Kevin Curtis is numerically 613 in Hebrew, that is the total number of divine commandments. Ian Curtis is numerically 441 that is equal to "truth". Ian admired Yehiel de Nur, both have inversed dates of birth and death at a tiny few days of difference. There is something really big working beyond Joy Division's surface.
Komakino é uma canção que fala dos nossos dias. Das transformações sociais, geograficas e tecnologicas. Algo do qual (eu acho) que Ian procurou expressar quando compôs a letra, algo provindo de um gênio. Mas que ao mesmo tempo, ele procurava botar pra fora todos os seus tormentos e incertezas, um desabafo nilista de uma alma ainda mais nilista.
They do sound just like New Order's Movement here. Different concept than what was on the Closer album. Guess they grabbed the blueprint from here to do songs like Doubts even Here or Hurt.
Given away free as a flexi (Probe in Liverpool) due to the long delays in Still being released with a hessian sleeve. Still sounds awesome .. Forever Ian
Got mine in Virgin, Manchester ,early June 1980. I personally would have put this instead of Atrocity Exhibition as the opener (no pun intended) on Closer. Just personal choice, Dead 38 years ago today, seems like yesterday, R.I.P Ian.
True art. Far more complex and powerful than most other popular culture. Their real peers are really more in things like poetry and painting than in pop and rock music.
this is one of joy divisions great songs that for some reason gets over looked. mrj8239, i agree with you these were great songs....the shadow that stands by the side of the road always reminds me of you!!
I hate when people dislike Joy Division because they criticise Ians voice!! Continuously get stick for loving JD off about 5 of my mates whose heroes are Garth Brooks and Paul McCartney?!?!? People who dont like JD, dont understand JD. Theyre more than just music, the power of all of their songs in its on unique way is genius. The hallow rhythm of Morris' drums, the punch of Hook's bass, the melody of Sumner's guitar, and the deep captivating powerful voice of Curtis. Stands the hair on my neck!
More brilliance from the boys from Manchester!! Should've been on 'Unknown Pleasures' or 'Closer', but was originally released as a flexi-disk included in an edition of NME in 1979. Great song, and Steve Morris's drumming is amazing! MC Gee Tee
This might actually be Joy Division's best track. The coda at the end is one of the most chilling moments in all of rock music. Seems like Kino does mean cinema cos Simple Minds did a song a year after this about their travels in Eastern Europe called Kant Kino (Kant I would guess being the philosopher).
actually, only Unknown Pleasures was released before his death. Closer was released on July 18th and Ian died May 18th. He killed himself right before their american tour
Yes just before the US tour. But what was weird is how fast they became New Order and I filmed them at the Commodore ballroom in Vancouver in super 8 with sound but for the first time the visual only lasted about 5 seconds and only sound for the rest of the film. The song was Blue Monday and the computer percussion screwed up so that they had to stop and reprogram and then start over. All of my films including the Cramps, wall of Voodoo, the Dead Kennedy's and Rank and file were stolen. I also got to meet New Order at a Warehouse after concert party and got them to autograph the ticket for the underground club warehouse party.l once had every album every single including an ideal for living which came with a sticker inside and both the black vinyl and the blue vinyl 10 various artists live at the electric ballroom in which I believe Ian tells out "Remember Rudolph Hess". Can't remember what the title was, but it is the only song that sounds like a punk band with a totally different vocal style than every other single Joy Division song. Also had the hardcover Still album and the US unknown pleasures with the free Komakino EP Flexi disc
one of the most (if not the most) underated and overlooked joy division tracks, factory couldent seem to give a toss about it at the time, releasing it on a flimsy flexi disc with very limited numbers, if they had put it on a proper single it should have made indie no 1 single and maybe got to 20 or so in mainstream charts. it took eight years for a version on an album, ridiculous
It's kind minimalistic, and at the same time their songs are somehow apocaliptical, it brings the new and old at the same time. I feel the intense and tragic pulse of "Historical Devir" on their songs.. It's like a recollection of "totalitarian nightmares" that floats timeless, like "1984" Orwell's.
No, mate. Can get it on 'Substance' CD, which is all A & B sides of Joy Division singles & other stuff that didn't make it to other albums, or demo versions of album tracks, like 'These Days' & 'She's Lost Control'. Well worth buying, as is anything by this amazing band of pioneers.
I guess everyone has their own interpretation of this track, and the vid doesn't really match mine - although parts of it come close. Beautiful, pared down JD - stripped down, in fact, to the bare bones - and utterly unique. There will never be another band like them. Brilliant.
I reckon they would have been finished by late 81 or 82 at the latest. If you see the interviews with Annik Honore it was obvious she was protective and jealous of Curtis and the rest of the band were not particularly enamored of her - classic Yoko recipe and the thing was already falling apart by 1980 from within due to his illness.
Can please someone tell me what komakino means. I looked up for it but I didnt found anything. Maybe it´s german Koma means coma and Kino means cinema. It wouldn´t be the first german title. Licht und Blindheit was another record.
Am I the only one that hears Joy Division and stops to dream of what might have been? Only two studio albums; Unknown Pleasures in 1979 and Closer in 1980 before Ian's death. I hate to over use a word but... what a tragedy!
@mrj8239 reply part 1 logic tells me factory had to be interested in the money around the release of unknown pleasures and afterwards (though giving the impression they dident really care) i have read and seen on interviews many times, that factory had a desperate cash flow crisis with unknown pleasures which virtually paralysed factory, (go to part two)
@Airota12 Its supposed to be low-fi plus depends on what sound u prefer they chaged ther styal 3 times in 3 years Tracks, /Digital/DISORDER/THE ETERNAL/
No i know that, but this was recorded some time after closer, so i was just speculating that if ian didnt kill himself, we prob wouldve had a third album with this on it
@mrj8239 part two, the problem was there was large demand for unknown pleasures, but factory could only afford 10,000 copies (check that number) for the 1st release & could not print more before cash came back from retail sales, factory had no real money to cure the cash flow, because the other bands basically made sod all (without jd factory would have folded). one small point, i think you should have said two years before komakino, i believe it was recorded march or april 1980
Hugely underrated song. Still and Substance are full of classics, shame they're not as well known as Unknown Pleasures/Closer
+hahartley100 Substance is much better than theit studio albums as for me.
any decent joy division fan will know
stop with the "every ____ fan sould know" - please just listen to the music and don't get to a competition over who's a true fan and who isn't
Emet !
Closer is one of my least favorites. Substance and Still are above. UP still haunts me to this day above else.
his is the hour when the mysteries emerge.
A strangeness so hard to reflect.
A moment so moving, goes straight to your heart,
The vision has never been met.
The attraction is held like a weight deep inside,
Something I'll never forget.
The pattern is set, her reaction will start,
Complete but rejected too soon.
Looking ahead in the grip of each fear,
Recalls the life that we knew.
The shadow that stood by the side of the road,
Always reminds me of you.
How can I find the right way to control,
All the conflict inside, all the problems beside,
As the questions arise, and the answers don't fit,
Into my way of things,
Into my way of things.
Pitfalls that line every route
The drumming in this is sensational. Amazing musicianship.
One of my favourite JD songs.... I don't think they recorded a weak song, so much power/emotion/craft.....
Joy Division had a pretty straightforward style I just can't describe and I love it..
how this was never kept as a single still haunts Hooky. its sublime, its brilliant
It was a single, albeit a free one but still :)...
+Hugh Nique I had a copy, a floppy with 'Incubation' on the B side.
Still got it.
In January 1980 Joy Division played their only Berlin gig at Kant Kino, a converted movie theater in Charlottenburg. The gig was an infamous bust -- half-empty venue, shtty sound, hostile audience. Komakino was their response song, it's one of the last songs they wrote and it is far more jagged than anything on Closer. Berlin loves you, Joy Division! We are sorry we were such a shtty audience.
I remember that there was a New Order gig they were doing in Berlin, Bernard called the a horrible audience, and that they would not be playing Berlin again, If I remember correctly.
Berlin can be the shittiest place on earth for concerts, too many "im too cool to dance and have fun" assholes
trialsanderrors thqnks foe sharing this story. Real rare insight. Unique and rich comment.
Well at least they did once in Berlin. Here in Malaysia, there's just only a plenty number of JD fans. Most of Malaysians dislike post-punk😢. Unlike me, of course.
we will play Kant Kino on Jan 21 2020! 40 years later. Very proud and honored. Be there!
The drums can put you in a trance here.
how can someone dislike Ian's holy voice?
Good question. I don't get it either.
Ian was a noble soul
Oh very easily. There's not much of a voice, in fact it's quite irritating. Somewhat better than Barnie's but not by much.
@@user-yc5um2pl5v get lost, troll
Holy? Hahaha 🤡
I believe in Joy Division.
Amen.
Ian Kevin Curtis is numerically 613 in Hebrew, that is the total number of divine commandments.
Ian Curtis is numerically 441 that is equal to "truth".
Ian admired Yehiel de Nur, both have inversed dates of birth and death at a tiny few days of difference.
There is something really big working beyond Joy Division's surface.
Stephen Morris take a bow, son.
joy division is an attitude, a spirit.
it' where they would **** their captures.
One of most favourite tracks of Joy Division such a kick ass band!! This video is done very well captures the mood of the song very well.
best song from Joy division
people can dislike whatever, its called personal preference, anyways this song is great.
Komakino é uma canção que fala dos nossos dias. Das transformações sociais, geograficas e tecnologicas. Algo do qual (eu acho) que Ian procurou expressar quando compôs a letra, algo provindo de um gênio. Mas que ao mesmo tempo, ele procurava botar pra fora todos os seus tormentos e incertezas, um desabafo nilista de uma alma ainda mais nilista.
This song makes me feel badass when I walk down the street
They do sound just like New Order's Movement here. Different concept than what was on the Closer album. Guess they grabbed the blueprint from here to do songs like Doubts even Here or Hurt.
yes he was sure a very emotional feeling persona real Cancer ,put alot of depth in his songs.
Excellent tune. Fantastic band. One of the best bands ever.
Probably my fave joy division song. Just the whole sound and the lyrics are amazing as always from Ian.
When I bought the first Album, this came as a free Flexi disc taped on to the shrink wrap
Fucking love Joy fucking Division.
How can I find the right way to control.
All the conflict inside, all the problems beside.
As the questions arise, and the answers don't fit.
Given away free as a flexi (Probe in Liverpool) due to the long delays in Still being released with a hessian sleeve. Still sounds awesome .. Forever Ian
Got mine in Virgin, Manchester ,early June 1980. I personally would have put this instead of Atrocity Exhibition as the opener (no pun intended) on Closer. Just personal choice, Dead 38 years ago today, seems like yesterday, R.I.P Ian.
That guitar sounds like a razor. This song is pure genius. And the images are very appropriate, who made the video?
rocks totaly!!!! Best ever song, outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love it!... cant stop listening it... going to be deef!!
Last verse is Ian at his finest.
this is one of their songs, which somewhat ashamedly, never heard before-and like the rest -Damn righteous
+blitzshriek999 Simple solution - buy Heart and Soul box set. Problem of not hearing some Joy Division songs before? Solved!
...THE CROW COMIC...
Amazing jesus christ
This video is truly amazing. I've been enjoying it since 2008. Thank you so much for making this.
fucking brilliant.
+joydivisiongirl I agree
True art. Far more complex and powerful than most other popular culture. Their real peers are really more in things like poetry and painting than in pop and rock music.
this is one of joy divisions great songs that for some reason gets over looked. mrj8239, i agree with you these were great songs....the shadow that stands by the side of the road always reminds me of you!!
Probaly my favourite JD song.
This song IS me & my life.
these were one of the few songs that wouldve been on joy divisions third album you know? along with in a lonely place and ceremony
Savage Track!
Hi,
Komakino is a german word and means something like knock- out cinema.
Greetings from Germany
I hate when people dislike Joy Division because they criticise Ians voice!! Continuously get stick for loving JD off about 5 of my mates whose heroes are Garth Brooks and Paul McCartney?!?!? People who dont like JD, dont understand JD. Theyre more than just music, the power of all of their songs in its on unique way is genius. The hallow rhythm of Morris' drums, the punch of Hook's bass, the melody of Sumner's guitar, and the deep captivating powerful voice of Curtis. Stands the hair on my neck!
this is my go to warm up song when I haven't played the guitar for a long time.
More brilliance from the boys from Manchester!! Should've been on 'Unknown Pleasures' or 'Closer', but was originally released as a flexi-disk included in an edition of NME in 1979. Great song, and Steve Morris's drumming is amazing!
MC Gee Tee
RIP IAN CURTIS....YOUR MUSIC WILL LINGER IN OUR HEARTS 4EVER!!
kafkaesque.
cosmicdrifter287 yes
How?
MASTERPIECE!!!
This might actually be Joy Division's best track. The coda at the end is one of the most chilling moments in all of rock music.
Seems like Kino does mean cinema cos Simple Minds did a song a year after this about their travels in Eastern Europe called Kant Kino (Kant I would guess being the philosopher).
Tout simplement Epique, Ian Curtis The best
Great video for a great recording!
@Spinking11 I read somewhere that it can be translated as "Theater of the shadows"
actually, only Unknown Pleasures was released before his death. Closer was released on July 18th and Ian died May 18th. He killed himself right before their american tour
Yes just before the US tour. But what was weird is how fast they became New Order and I filmed them at the Commodore ballroom in Vancouver in super 8 with sound but for the first time the visual only lasted about 5 seconds and only sound for the rest of the film. The song was Blue Monday and the computer percussion screwed up so that they had to stop and reprogram and then start over. All of my films including the Cramps, wall of Voodoo, the Dead Kennedy's and Rank and file were stolen. I also got to meet New Order at a Warehouse after concert party and got them to autograph the ticket for the underground club warehouse party.l once had every album every single including an ideal for living which came with a sticker inside and both the black vinyl and the blue vinyl 10 various artists live at the electric ballroom in which I believe Ian tells out "Remember Rudolph Hess". Can't remember what the title was, but it is the only song that sounds like a punk band with a totally different vocal style than every other single Joy Division song. Also had the hardcover Still album and the US unknown pleasures with the free Komakino EP Flexi disc
that was his way of saying
One of their - or anyone's - best recordings.Joy Division are one of those few bands who justify rock music existing.
awsome
one of the most (if not the most) underated and overlooked joy division tracks, factory couldent seem to give a toss about it at the time, releasing it on a flimsy flexi disc with very limited numbers, if they had put it on a proper single it should have made indie no 1 single and maybe got to 20 or so in mainstream charts. it took eight years for a version on an album, ridiculous
every one a gem
Shadow that at the side of the road always reminds me of you
B-Movie: Lust & Sound brought me here
How can people dislike this? what a disgrace!
Wonderful song.
I love this song!!!
It's kind minimalistic, and at the same time their songs are somehow apocaliptical, it brings the new and old at the same time.
I feel the intense and tragic pulse of "Historical Devir" on their songs..
It's like a recollection of "totalitarian nightmares" that floats timeless, like "1984" Orwell's.
I had a few copies of this on flexi disc that were given away in the early 80's. Must dig out the copies ....
'The crow' graphic novel brought me here.
Same lol
what reference of JD komakino is in the Crow graphic novel
Same for me but in 1994
their best song? possibly, i love it
Great vid,well put together.....timeless.
No, mate. Can get it on 'Substance' CD, which is all A & B sides of Joy Division singles & other stuff that didn't make it to other albums, or demo versions of album tracks, like 'These Days' & 'She's Lost Control'. Well worth buying, as is anything by this amazing band of pioneers.
PURE FIRE!!!
There will be a day when Simon Cowell will be listening to this through bitter tears when his bird fucks off with all his money.
I guess everyone has their own interpretation of this track, and the vid doesn't really match mine - although parts of it come close. Beautiful, pared down JD - stripped down, in fact, to the bare bones - and utterly unique. There will never be another band like them. Brilliant.
I reckon they would have been finished by late 81 or 82 at the latest. If you see the interviews with Annik Honore it was obvious she was protective and jealous of Curtis and the rest of the band were not particularly enamored of her - classic Yoko recipe and the thing was already falling apart by 1980 from within due to his illness.
AmaZING!
Brilliant!
ooooooohhhhhh i wanna take you to komakino, we'll get there faster then we'll take it slow
THE BEST
Can please someone tell me what komakino means. I looked up for it but I didnt found anything. Maybe it´s german Koma means coma and Kino means cinema. It wouldn´t be the first german title. Licht und Blindheit was another record.
Am I the only one that hears Joy Division and stops to dream of what might have been? Only two studio albums; Unknown Pleasures in 1979 and Closer in 1980 before Ian's death. I hate to over use a word but... what a tragedy!
How can I find the right way to control..
All the conflict inside, all the problems beside?
So good
and you know this! man.
@mrj8239 reply part 1 logic tells me factory had to be interested in the money around the release of unknown pleasures and afterwards (though giving the impression they dident really care) i have read and seen on interviews many times, that factory had a desperate cash flow crisis with unknown pleasures which virtually paralysed factory, (go to part two)
Joie D'Vision! 'Nuff said! (MMom, WRUW)
🖤
amazing
pretty funky for joy division
I (think) first heard this on a flexi disc 6inch free give away. does anyone else have one....I lost my piece of history
@Airota12 Its supposed to be low-fi plus depends on what sound u prefer they chaged ther styal 3 times in 3 years Tracks, /Digital/DISORDER/THE ETERNAL/
No i know that, but this was recorded some time after closer, so i was just speculating that if ian didnt kill himself, we prob wouldve had a third album with this on it
Ian Curtis voice = eargasm
Yes he is. No wonder he is named the Human Drum Machine.
enat minute 2:08 there is a change in the lower
and it's great
I love it :D
I find it interesting to point out that the sound isn't that much different from Sister Midnight by his hero Iggy Pop!
@mrj8239 part two, the problem was there was large demand for unknown pleasures, but factory could only afford 10,000 copies (check that number) for the 1st release & could not print more before cash came back from retail sales, factory had no real money to cure the cash flow, because the other bands basically made sod all (without jd factory would have folded). one small point, i think you should have said two years before komakino, i believe it was recorded march or april 1980
while listening to this song I had a weird vision/dream of Ian's wife finding a foreign coin in his trouser pocket. how strange!
Kino
The intro sound's like Blue Monday
Holy crap I also thought it was going to launch into blue Monday
concordo completamente
HEAVY HEAVY DUTY
@NormanArches
yes the kant kino is in berlin, its an independent movietheater.
but hey germany is not eastern europe, its middle europa
Holy fuck Dat bassline that start at 2:09