Meh, 'the entire shinobi alliance' is fodder tbh. Like, the entire shinobi aliance was getting bodied by Spiral Zetsu, then Hiruzenn showed up and stalemated it by himself offscreen for like 100+ chapters, which is why we have no feats for him.
I think some of the people Kabuto brought back were strictly for the purposes of psychological warfare. Like imagine if you're a hidden sand Shinobi and your fighting Granny Chiyo someone you idolized. There's a decent chance that you'll hold back or hesitate.
Edo Tensei pretty much nullifies Itachi's biggest weakness, that being his gas tank. He's definitely got more hax based abilities than almost anyone else on the list, and being able to use those infinitely drastically raises his viability in combat as opposed to when he was alive.
Nagato when the cripple goes away is literally able to solo everything. Son was raised in war , him soloing the alliance is more possible than itachi. Them combined is rape for anybody even obito
Itachi wouldn't even need to have the ability to use anything infinitely, because most of his attacks are one shot based. And i've never seen him abusing or spamming any jutsu. The only thing that being edo took away was his disease and insufficent use of mangekyo techniques.
The only reason why Itachi is above nagato and only reason is because he’s an Itachi and we all know swagkage is heavily biosed when it comes to everything related to utchiha, especially itachi. If it’s up to him Itachi beats Obito. I fully understand the love for Itachi especially, but it gets tiresome when someone trying to argue about something that reeks bios and lack of anything that supports the claimed argument.
It was always weird to me that the 7 swordsmen were summoned back with their sword and the Kinkaku brothers were summoned back with the 6 paths tools but Chiyo and Sasori didn't have their puppets.
Agreed I mean maybe with the swordsman you could argue out of respect they were buried with their swords but the other 2 being as disliked as they were along with the monumental importance 6 path weapons would hold I very much doubt they would be buried with those tools. Unless you want to go on a stretch and say Kabuto acquired all of this stuff before hand so he could equip his summons.
@@sebz8362 well, the 7 ninja swordsmen had the scroll they use to summon their swords. Go back and watch the episode to see. I guess chiyo and sasori did not
Solid ranking. HOWEVER, don't let this distract you from the fact that every time the Six Paths of Pain talked to each other, Nagato was simply talking to himself.
Feel like Dan in his spirit form is really strong but has such an obvious weakness. He leaves his body behind completely defenseless. Might be how he died. Got jumped while using that technique
@Loki Jaxson plus like, in the Sound attack on the Leaf during Orochimaru vs Hiruzen period. We see Ino's dad perform a mind confusion jutsu. He can take basically the control of somebody else body, while not having to send his mind into them. Or the puppet mind trap jutsu from Danzo's bodyguard at the kage summit. Their mind transfer technique is easily their most dicey one, I don't why they bother with it as Jonin.
What i love about kabuto is that u can deadass see which ones he brought for mindgames and which ones he brought to kick everyones ass, for example sai’s brother, and tsunades lover all retained their personalities for mindgames while nagato and itachi all turn into silent robots and had kabuto personally controlling them himself
its extra funny cause that means he just wanted to mess with people. dan makes sense as throwing the hokage off is smart. but, why do it to sai besides to just fuck around a bit.
At this point, swag is trolling all Kakuzu fans because of that pain debate and i love it Edit: the arguments in the replies is not helping you Kakazu fans 🤣
@@tiltedxfn3635 no, you're just ignorant. this is the same 2 tails that reacted to Bee{gauge lvl of speed) in combat 4th war, the same one Kakuzu defeated. By default what does that say of Kakuzu in comparison? People then try to hand-wave it away by saying they were amped but this is untrue. only their ocular perception was increased and their ability to coordinate and avoid attacks. This didn't make their chakra any higher, them any faster or stronger than their original states.
@@DorkSoulss kakazu actually was fighting multiple people. Regardless scaling in naruto isn’t linear. Because kakazu literally killed the 2 tails, and the 2 tails was able to keep up with naruto and killer bee in the war arc. This is a prime example of why scaling is trash. Naruto and friends also got bodied by a ostrich so it’s nonsensical.
I feel like Deidara could easily be much higher if we assumed he didn't have any problem just spamming his self-destruct. He might not be totally effective like that, but you'd basically have to be fast enough to travel the distance of his explosion radius and seal him faster than he can regenerate to do it again.
You know in the Manga, Zabuza's "demon mist aura" I really thought was just stylistic as they called him demon of the mist. So I thought it was very strange when he used it as a power up later on
Puppet users are seriously nerfed due to lack of equipment. I remember someone I knew saying Sasori was weak because he got defeated early in the great Shinobi war Arc, to which I responded, "yeah, no duh, he literally had none of his equipment".
@@alldayagain He allowed himself to die. Sasori is stated to be above Deidara who's able to threaten Kakashi and push CS2 Sasuke to near-death. Both of these guys are far more capable than Beginning of Shippuden Sakura.
Genuinely surprised that Yagura was in that place since he has a far more devastating skill set than most of the others (maybe not boil release) in my opinion. That mirror and coral jutsu is crazy.
Not 100% sure since it's been forever and I don't remember if he did anything in the war but the one episode I remember him doing anything was filler so they couldn't really use it
@@crungusbungus2519 clearly kabuto underestimated itachi in that regard as well since he lost to him and wasn't expecting him to have more powerful genjutsu.
i think kakuzu is a weird one. because his power is supposed to be in his hearts, and that's also what makes him so hard to kill and gives him access to several chakra natures, he's definitely super strong - he did fight hashirama and live to speak of it - but also... as a reanimation, it doesn't really do much for him, since it makes him immortal in the first place, and he needed to gather the hearts again before going back to full power... i dunno, it's kinda odd
Yeah, his strong part being a living shinobi was that you have to kill him five times (or Naruto blasts his whole body away on a micro level) but him being resurrected was kinda useless
28:24 Yes, as in Nagato is second only to Madara Uchiha himself. Not Itachi. But I think we seriously need a full in depth Edo Itachi vs Edo Nagato video.
My biggest anti-argument to base Minato being above anyone based on the interception feat alone, is that 6th gate Lee threw the kunai to intercept the orbs. And at the same time Gaara is moving Kakashi behind Madara to create the opening with Kamui. This has always been a highball at best type argument, and it's such an outlier, that it comes off as stronger than his amp forms. Just my opinion. Still a fair placement for him on an Edo list.
Lee was mentally amped cause his master was sacrificing his life and he had to help him in his last moments. Gaara has some insane feats later in the war. Just 10 chapters earlier, he managed to react to and block a Susanoo blade from Rinnegan SM Madara, who was stated at the back of the volume to be stronger than Juubito. Kakashi also has other insane feats. He reached for Black Zetsu at relative speed to KCM Minato, and has multiple other TSO related feats. It's possible Minato just got faster. It's never been stated that Edos can't improve through fighting like they can when they're alive.
@@kalamari1611 yes, I think people are missing the point. It's not him just getting there. Its him catching the kunai, turning around and teleporting out all while 1 intercepting madaras attack, while 2 doing that while guy is running behind him at speeds that are bending space, and then 3 to top it all off teleports out without even a mark on his jacket... that's definitely a minato feat
And got neg diffed bodied. By that logic Tenten also could fight Hashirama, Tobirama and Madara at the same time. She would die in one piko second, but she still fought them, right? 🤷♂️
@@Stolas9 Itachi, Naruto and Bee were literally about to get sealed and they had to work together. Bee even underwent full tailed beast transformation and last thing Kabuto was the one controlling Nagato and didn't know how to use all his powers and after Nagato got sealed he said that he wasn't mobile enough.
@@Stolas9 honestly why couldnt nagato just throw itachi on space or take itachi soul, like itachi is powerfull but nagato can defeat all of itachi powers if he wanted, but sadly was kabuto the one manipulating nagato.
@@Stolas9 dats a dumbass comparison cuz tenten would get one shotted by any move from any of em even a kunai, but nagato while nerfed actually made them fight for their fucking lives not once but twice... if it was for itachi naruto and bee would have been dead u think tenten could do the same against those 3?
I just appreciate the Minato love not enough people understand just how powerful Minato is he may not be able to beat Madara or Hashirama in a straight fight but he'd put up a great one and he's a genius on another level to most characters.
@@tjhicks3600 It's super hard to tell. Minato's scaling is all fucked, a bit on purpose by Kishi. It was very clear that he wanted Minato to be clouded in mistery, from the very beginning any information about his feats is very limited, again, on purpose, so he would be that "I wonder I strong Minato really was" type of character. Minato will never be properly scaled, unless Kishi decides to drop some data book or novel on him or something like that
@@mryellow6918 Yeah after having already teleported the entire shinobi army consisting of thousands of people, among other things. Dude has plenty of chakra. You can think of Minato like this: he's literally the most powerful character in the series without a kekkei genkei or Jinchuriki power. Not even 8th gate Gai would probably be able to beat him, based on Minato's feat with Gai and Madara. THAT'S how strong he is.
Man it doesn’t make any sense at all to put minato over itachi but not madara and the first minato only get the edge on everybody’s list because of speed , because itachi pull needs shit put everytime he fights sombody new minato does the same stuff why would it work against itcahi an not madara and the first hokage it doesn’t make sense at all bruh lol seem like he jus gets the benefit of the doubt over everybody because of his speed and it start to not make any sense after awhile tbh
Nagato would totally stomp. He was casually defending against kcm Naruto, Bee (v2), and Itachi.. And he even was telling them how to beat him. Essentially guaranteeing an opening. To use a very specific spirit sword. Circumstances people.
Naruto and bee would be clapped. If it weren't for a.) Reversing the Edo control and b.) What you have said. + itachi backpacked Bee and Naruto, and it was clear that bee AND naruto loses to edo nagato
@@peacebeuponus24 They weren't true blitzes. Nagato literally senses Amaterasu coming and even comments on it, and the second blitz you're referring to was when Itachi was shrouded in smoke.
Not quite... the 2nd Great Ninja War would have been while they were still growing, not quite in their prime yet. All things considered, they're likely only slightly past their prime in part 1.
BRO six was trying so hard not to disagree with the tobirama ranking. 23:58 "that's definitely the more common ranking..." 25:13 "I'd say that I'm pretty comfortable with Tobirama being above him" "To be fair, juubito does block that attack..." Thank you swag for fighting for him being where he deserves
@@mariball74 he definitely beats Itachi nagato and 3rd raikage, tobirama was near madara and hashirama level the guy is a ninjutsu master, Minato only creates rasengan ( which is very powerful) and uses flying raijin (which is created by tobirama) Tobirama on the other hand was wayyy more tactical, creative and a fast thinker, if flying raijin was something he mostly and only use he’d be better and that’s all Minato has over him other than that tobirama out played Minato
@@Noblesavage31 I think tobirama would beat the 3rd raikage I can agree with that but he’s not beating itachi or nagato he’s never been up against the susauno or never even heard of the yata mirror or yasaka beads or totsuka blade or even Amaterasu or tsukuyomi he’s definitely not hashirama or Madara lvl there are way above him lol😭 they fought for a whole day he stood on the side lines n watched really wasn’t nothing he can do he never seen the rinnegan either or doesn’t know the 7 paths everything nagato can do is juss far above anything tobirama can do bro died to 20 s ranked ninjas n kinkaku and ginkaku which I feel like nagato is no diffing and minato is overall a better shinobi then tobirama kcm 2 minato claps tobirama low-mid diff
Something that annoys me is why wasn't Hiruzen reanimated in his prime like all the other hokage? We heard legends of how he used to be so much stronger; wouldn't it have been awesome if we finally could've seen that? It was the perfect opportunity, and Kishimoto wasted it.
@@reversalmushroom it does, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen and Minato's souls were trapped in the reaper death seal. Hiruzen was old when he used the jutsu against Orochimaru so he came back old
@@quentinjones6877 No. It was only Hiruzen and Minato who was trapped. Hashirama and Tobirama just died young. Also it doesn't matter if someone died young or old, or if they were trapped in Reaper Death Seal.
I still really enjoy swag's videos glad you kind of miss the days when having somebody else on the video was like a special thing instead of just the norm
IK the Kakuzu thing was a troll, but I feel like this is kinda valid of a position for him. The reason why he was so powerful was because of the fact he had 5 hearts and all basic tranformations, but here's the thing, his masks were all destroyed when he died originally and in edo form everyone is immortal anyway
Itachi over Nagato is the most wild thing I have ever heard even just going off of their edo feats. It took Bee, Naruto, and Itachi together to put him down.
@@Umarohh he “blitzed” a Nagato that was being controlled by Kabuto💀 you must’ve missed the part where it took Bee, Naruto AND Itachi to stop ONE of Nagato’s attacks. 1v1 scenario Itachi gets 1 shot by Chibaku Tensei.
@@Umarohh If you're referring to the Amaterasu he was crippled and nigh-immobile, dont ignore that he shrugged it off right after. Itachi summoning Susanoo one? he did see it coming but i can only assume he was occupied with Naruto and Bee. The totsuka blade one? catching offguard ≠ blitzing. A Non-Crippled Nagato was even capable of outpacing Bee who reacted to Itachi just fine.
@@Umarohh All those "blitzes" are not blitzes my guy LMAO. 1) Nagato literally senses Amaterasu coming and comments on it. Why would he attack Itachi to prevent it when moments earlier he literally protected Itachi from other attacks like Bee's sword throw? It's obviously in his binding to protect other Edos. 2) Nagato's Shared Vision was taken out, meaning Nagato didn't see Itachi coming. It's not a blitz if it's a surprise attack. 3) Itachi's Susanoo was shrouded in smoke. Another surprise attack. And no, the Rinnegan cannot see through smokescreens before you try and say that garbage. Watch the Pain fight and you'll see smoke-bombs used so many times against the Rinnegan, in addition to literal DUST being blown across the battlefield by Shima to block Pain's vision.
No way Edo Nagato loses a 1v1. Visual genjutsu doesn’t work on him, he can absorb Amaterasu, and his sensing skills are so good he found Kabuto across a battlefield before Kabuto windows updated him. Like people argue Yata mirror and Totsuka blade while forgetting those manifestations are made out of chakra. Yeah good luck defending yourself in your giant armored skeleton when Nagato turns you into a slurpee.
I say the same thing every time. I doubt Itachi's Susanno is tanking a point blank shinra tensei. The fact Itachi loses so much of his mobility while casting Susanno is a GG with chibaku tensei. Not having Susanno up would leave him vulnerable to soul dragon, outside of the fact tai Justu is not an option against Nagato
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Minato vs Fugaku could be fun. Altbough the fight might just be them showing off and yelling about who should be kage. Also Minato might ask how Fugakus MS abilities work, and get really annoyed at the answer of "magic hate eye".
i got problems with you putting asuma and hizashi above at lest pakura. she would vaporize them before they could even get close. the other genkai users also should probably be higher.
@@ohboi9578 I could just use the hyuga clan as a reference since they are known for their fast and accurate taijutsu compared to pakura's taijutsu which is ohh would u look at that nothing
Kinkaku and Ginkaku are honestly easy cases to figure out. Yes, they're powerful due to having large chakra reserves, but they're extremely pragmatic, I would even say more pragmatic than average shinobi. There's no way in hell they fought Tobirama on even grounds, most likely using the Kinkaku force as extra fodder to weaken and distract the Second in order to kill him.
@@jonathan1authier146 Did he though? nagato literally was looking at the susano that cut his arm off, and he still got one shotted with the totsuka blade when it was right in front of him
Team Kurenai wins pretty handily Shino can pretty much do it himself. His insects move independently from his body, absorb chakra, can attack multiple opponents, and are too small for all Shadow Possession variants.
i mean nagato vs itachi happened as you said, but it was also a 1v3 and nagato wasn't even the one controlling his own actions. Bit skewed to use that as the basis for putting itachi above him.
I like when you Rank with actual video clips and manga panels vs just watching you move tiny pictures around like it's much better granted it's be a ton of work to rank every single character and add videos for all that so I get it.
@@demonicfruit8358Nagato could walk Bc he absorbed B’s chakra, idiot. He could walk, use all of his rinnegan powers from one body, had unlimited chakra and unlimited regeneration.
Curious how strong do you think Guy with Resurrection hacks could be? The ability to stay with the 8th gate open non stop would be up there with strongest characters in my opinion.
Would it work that way? I'd argue up to the 7th that could function but the 8th started to ash the body. Which would outspeed the other the regen or the gate ash effect?
Don't you need a real heart to activate the 8th gate? I'm not sure, but I think that's a requirement as you send all your Chakra to that area to create the blood mist.
@@if7723 no I mean like if you say he was too 10 strongest characters in Shippudden with regular 8 gates, unlimited 8 gates doesn’t boost his positioning, because the people above him are wayyyy stronger than him
30:47 "But edo Hashirama beat edo Madara." That never made sense to me because edo Madara should logically stomp due to the rinnegan abilities, but he just doesn't use them for some reason. We don't see him pulling gigantic meteors out of the sky or freezing Hashirama in place or shinra tensei'ing him or creating robot weapons, and he should be able to just absorb all of Hashirama's wood style...but he doesn't. Plus he also has wood style which goes unused for some reason. We don't even see much of this fight. It's more like edo Madara with no rinnegan or wood style VS edo Hashirama. I don't care how it actually turned out; I put edo Madara far above edo Hashirama, and it only turned out the way it did because of weird plot contrivance where he bafflingly decides not to use a bunch of his best moves.
It's a bit weird the way, Madara (not 10 tails jinchuriki) only uses absorption, meteor and Limbo. Although limbo on its own is completely cracked (the dude litterally slapped Bijuus in the face, wtf 😂). I think Kishimoto wanted Madara to have a different fighting style than Nagato, so they would feel different and have their own recognizable movesets.
I think he can’t absorb Wood Style. Wood Style I believe isn’t creating wood out of thin air, but rather causing the Earth to accelerate its growth tenfold so it instantly creates the wood structure you have in mind. It’s not made of chakra, it’s just wood structures manipulated by the user.
Yea I agree. Edo Madara losing to Edo Hashi made no sense considering that Madara had the power of the Rinnegan which he previously (when he was alive) didn't have. He also has the same wood release that Hashirama himself uses so there's that as well and to top it all off, it really looked like Hashirama could not use his Buddha statue which is his strongest technique of course and essentially the only ability that has the potential to beat Madara.
Only rineggan abilities that could work against hashirama is limbo and absorbs ninjutsu but maybe he can’t absorb sage abilities I don’t know just guessing why he didn’t absorb hashirama ninjustu maybe hashirama had too much chakra in his ninjutsu to absorb hsshirama does have highest chakra reserves in the whole series I mean madara absorb a tail beast bomb I highly doubt it hsshirama make nine tails look like a little pet fox
Also wasn't it established that Kabuto's Edo Tensei we're much closer to retaining their original strength than that of Orochimaru's Edo Tensei summons.
Well, Kabuto saying Nagato is his second strongest summon means he's second to Madara (you know), and then there is Itachi. I know Itachi is strong af, i just think people really downplays Nagato, who fought (and almost won vs) almost the entire leaf village as being not even in his full power, probably, as 6 paths etc. Though i get it's pretty closer than any can think so. But good job for the content, always fun to watch and listen to these power scaling stuff =)
@@AlanJia8 You know THAT Naruto without sage mode (barely makes a difference) lost to Madara, right? Madara pinned Naruto with wood dragon and Naruto ran away.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 Ah yes, SM barely makes a difference. Definitely not like it made Naruto go from on the backfoot against Tendo to sending him flying a dozen meters with a casual kick. Anyways, that's early KCM2 Naruto. Even in just KCM2, he got stronger and more experienced, so that's a stronger KCM2 Naruto on top of a massive buff from SM. Naruto didn't run away, he actually ran towards Madara and caught his Susanoo blade with a chakra arm.
I would like to get a vid about Kakazu. I always saw him as a pretty heavy hitter. He had a brutal physicality, he could blacken and “armor” his limbs, he’s strong as hell, quick, and really tricky to fight unless you’re in a group. Try dodging the five flying hearts while still in a fistfight with the original. I always thought he was cool and a little weaker than Kisame.
Man i love the way you troll my favorite has to be saying he wouldn’t say Kakuzu is weaker than Sasori without puppets. Then immediately talks about how Sasori without puppets is right above him 😂😂
I feel the 6 Jinchuriki should be higher then the 4 Kage due to hurting a KCM1 Naruto in their base forms before then transforming and getting stronger Edit: To avoid confusion, the Kage I mean are Muu, 3rd Raikage, Gengetsu and Rasa
I donno I feel like they are overhyped here. Most of those guys get killed in a 1v1 with like deidara when they were alive. But they do have some new eyes here so it's fair to put them above him I guess even if they dont really use their new eyes.
I disagree Hashirama claps them by himself Tobirama and Minato are too fast for them (obviously Hashirama as well but these two are speed and smarts for the most part) And Hiruzen could give some great support with his Genjutsu or any of his million jutsu
@@GoldenMechaTiger Being a path of pain amps you. For example one of the pains was a random ninja that Nagato killed as a literal child. It’s why all the Obito Paths are so strong. They are being amped by a god tier character Obito
@@TheEternalFlame57 You dont know if it's an amp or if it jusy brings you up to a certain level. It's possible it only makes you stronger if you're weak. And they're never shown using any of the rinnengan or sharigan abilities apart from the shared vision afaik and they wouldnt have that in a 1v1 obviously
@@luciandemciuc3960 Right, but I would count Kakuzu among the stronger Akatsuki members (currently, he flip flops with me) so the fact that Hidan being weak enough to water down the team that much is something I hadn't actually considered til dude brought it up
The two times Nagato was forced to do something by Kabuto (before the FULL control) were the two times Nagato said he had LOST control. Nagato was actively trying to resist ET.
I think Kimimaro is the weirdest out of all of them, becaus fighting KCM Naruto with only cm1 without loosing is pretty crazy when you compare it with the other Naruto colne that fights the third Raikage.
Kimimaro is slept on. He straight up beats gaara and lee in a 2v1 while his body doesn't even work anymore. He also has the literal best durability feat in the entire series, straight up tanking the compressive force of an ocean of sand 100 meters thick being squeezed into him... and then muscles his way out. That's a feat of inhuman strength surpassing what we see from Sage Mode Naruto, and the durability it shows is hard for me to truly describe for people who don't already get it.
@@christianstokes5412 Well it is easy to go crazy with him. CM2 is 10x base power cm1 is only double, so he would be 5 times stronger than when he fought the clone, so he would be like 5 times the 3rd Raikage and the 3rd Raikage would probably be the strongest out of the 5 kage that Madara fought or a least secound. So Kimimaro would compare to 5 kage, if not even stronger. But he also has the edo tensei debuff (about 30-20%), wich would mean you could put in an editional Raikage at least. So if Kimimaro would be healty in part one he would solo the entire verse. xD War Arc powerscaling is very weird. :D
@@dontmisunderstand6041 lee was weakend cause he just got out of the hospital so his leg and arm was not as powerful as it’s supposed to be nor did he use any gates
I really don't understand why Itachi's above him though. He would've been sealed by chibaku tensei easily if he didn't have two biggest tailed beasts on his team AND the initial element of surprise to catch Nagato with amaterasu in the first olace.
@@dustingaethje1332 He didn't catch him by surprise with Amaterasu. Nagato saw Itachi light up all of his summonings and he realizes Itachi is turning on him before itachi even casts it on him. And he was right in front of Nagato. And Nagato still got blitzed by it. Later one, Itachi blitzed again with Totsuka Blade and again while right in front of him.
I agree with everything said here except that Itachi was stronger than Nagato. I think Nagato is more powerful than Itachi. The two really didn't throw down at all. You have about two moves from each. Both of Itachi's moves were made under concealment and Itachi had a lot of help dealing with Chibaku Tensei. (making up at best 50% of the force required to destroy it . which in my opinion is high balling him. I'm more comfortable saying he was closer to a 33% to 40%) if Itachi could have destroyed Chibaku Tensei alone he would have done so. add to that, Kabuto really had no idea what Nagato was capable of as he himself stated.
@@piratehunterzoro702 My interpretation was that Itachi couldn't destroy Chibaku Tensei on his own and that he needed Naruto and Bee. If he had gotten caught in it I doubt he would have been able to dig himself out. Again, because if he could have, he likely would have just done so. Other arguments I have would be that Nagato can literally use Bansho Tenin to just gank Itachi out of his Susanoo and get him with one of the pain rods. if they worked on reanimated Hashirama they will work on Reanimated Itachi. I will concede that Tsukuyomi might just be an auto win for Itachi, (it is in almost every case) I don't know how or even if it would work on Nagato. Since the Rinnegan is simply a superior Dōjutsu then the Mangekyō Sharingan. either way, even IF Itachi could win this fight on his own, between the animal summons, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Chakra Absorption, the Pain Rods that disrupt chakra. Nagato still has crazy hacks, AOE, and DPS, that none of the other Reanimated characters can match, (except Madara and Hashirama.) making him, IMO, the more powerful of the two.
Itachi took naruto and bee's help to destroy CT cuz he had no idea how much destructive power it takes to destroy CT. So Itachi wanted to gave maximum destructive power as possible that's why itachi took naruto and bee's help. Yasaka beads are actually highly destructive if you check in naruto ninja storm
@@andakin117 There is no way that the rinnegan has resistance toward something like tsukyomi the way it works is damm near instantaneous and it’s even debatable that sasake actually broke out of it. Besides chibaku tensei isn’t an instant i win button anyways kurama was resisting it for a while. Itachi with his Susanso could literally just do the same or spam multiple yasaka beads into the center.
@@sovereignlux3827 Respectfully I disagree. basically every piece of lore points to Nagato being the most powerful person in the Akatsuki. (and alive at the time in general.) I could see maybe Itachi being able to win a 1v1 with Nagato maybe. but that doesn't mean that Itachi is more powerful, just that he's got the hacks and know how to deal with someone like Nagato. (kinda like Team 7 vs Kaguya. or team 7 minus Kakashi vs Gaara and Shukaku.) There really is no debating that the Rinnegan makes just about every character with it absurdly overpowered. as for the infinite chakra I don't think a lot of people think that means they can dump unlimited chakra into a single move. (otherwise Deidara could have blown the entire world up with C-0. the same would go for basicially all other characters that have been reanimated.) Or that the can just spam the same technique without molding chakra. and to compare Itachi to even half of Kuruma's power is a bit of a stretch if you ask me. this would definitely be a good fight, but all and all, I still see Nagato being more powerful.
Another Feat I would add for Hashirama was that he was the only Edo stated to be able to break out of the Mind control IF HE WANTED TO with the amount of power he was revived at compared to last time and Hash was revived only close to his max power. I'm pretty sure Madara can do it too if wanted. That's still pretty nuts though since a Hash revival would backfire on you so hard if you had bad intentions.
I might sound high, but I really think that Tobirama is stronger than Itachi. And Nagato is stronger than both. It might seem like Itachi would be smarter than Tobirama, but that’s not the case. Tobirama knows all about the dangerous jutsu of the uchiha clan. And, he created some of the most ridiculous techniques in the whole series. He actually killed a very strong MS user in the form of Madara’s brother in a 1 vs 1. He’s super fast, super smart, has a ton of shakra since he’s literally Hashirama brother. Now y’all really out here nerfing Nagato like that. The rinnegan, the chakra reserve of an Uzumaki, very skilled taijutsu fighter. Itachi literally surprised my guy Nagato because y’all forgot to mention this. But it was a 3vs1 at that point. If you want to assume that Itachi could seal away Nagato in a 1vs1, then he should have able to do the same with KCM Naruto, Killer Bee, and pretty much anyone else below him in this list. Because Nagato is clearly stronger than KCM Naruto and Bee together. The thing is that once you know about the totsuka blade, you just have to dodge it. And Nagato should be way faster than Itachi. Finally, for God’s sake he has a freaking Rinnegan and infinite chakra. How can Itachi beat that in a 1vs1? Y’all crazy as hell!
@@Mortysmithc136 tobirama died to kinkaku and ginkaku im pretty sure Itachi negs lmao and nagato is stronger then itachi but it can go either way but I’d still say nagato wins
@@Lebanese55 at soon as he uses izinagi with out hashirsma cells more than once he loses both sharingan and no susano even with the assumption that one would not get rid of susano but itachi wins because only jutsu nagato can use is chibaku tensei with is a good opening for being poked
@@Lebanese55 Itachi has never used Izanagi. Not once. And if he uses it, it'll erase his arsenal, for just an instant of usage. Nagato>Itachi, and it's not close, hence why Itachi needed Bee and Naruto
@@zacharyrosenberg3037 he needed them? Lmao without itachi they would have been one shotted how much actual help were they? And just cus he never used it doesn’t mean he can’t he used izamni which means he can use izanagi we never even got to see his true potential with a fully formed susano and he still did all these feet’s while he was alive .. imagine not sick at full power his entire character was handicapped for literally almost all his life lol stop it we saw pretty much nagatos full potential and his eyes aren’t even his hes nothing compared to itachi and it’s not even close to be honest even a half sick itachi can body nagato
@@Lebanese55 Nagato bodied bee and Naruto simultaneously, and Itachi needed them when he fought Nagato. Like, we understand that Itachi's arc is "learns he can't do it all himself," right? That the fight with Bee and Naruto taught him that? I also like now how we're just using Fanfic Itachi. Sure, if we give him Izanagi (which he never so much as said he could use) and a perfect, Full body Susanoo (Which he also never had), then he'd be stronger. Like sure, okay. But that's not the Itachi in the actual manga. If you say Nagato's Rinnegan is "nothing compared to Itachi," you're basically a ridiculous fanboy and can be safely ignored.
Kakuzu weak? Man can use all 5 chakra elements and combine them together. He kinda clapped Kakashi that only got one of his hearts because he was sneaking around. Yeah yeah Sasori has 100000 puppets, and Kakuzu can just make a tornado of flames that would disassemble all of them in an instant. He can also harden his skin to be pretty much immune to any puppet - as for the poison inhaling I am not sure. And yeah don't think kazekage puppet can do much considering the arsenal of brutal jutsus that kakuzu has.
Im so glad about the minato placement and arguably other placement, i think swag and six is kinda hinting on a kcm minato vs ems madara thing, very solid placement, i like the itachi placement as well he strong as hell as well as the nagato one.
@@momotheone9700 Madara never used the Deva Path, Asura Path, Animal Path, Naraka Path, or Human Path. He only ever used the Preta Path, and even then, only to absorb incoming attacks, never to steal chakra from people like Nagato. So in character, the Rinnegan isn't much of a factor. Anyways Minato can deal with all of the abilities. He can teleport away if Madara tries pulling him in, just tank a regular Shinra Tensei with his KCM cloak or if it's a larger one, summon the Kurama Avatar to tank it, blow up Chibaku Tensei with Bijuudamas or teleport away until it's done pulling objects in, tank or dodge any Asura Path weapons, use a contract seal to get rid of Madara's summons, and teleport away if Madara tries ripping out his soul or sucking his chakra.
@@AlanJia8 ohk so how does minato get the seal on madara, because hes gonna need the seal? on him to get pass the perfect susanoo, not saying minato kcm avarltar doesnt scale, but in case of that not being the case, how does minato get the seal on madara?
Ngl, KCM Minato slaps tf out of the Edo founders. He demonstrated relativity to BSM Naruto against Juubito and slapped away multiple Juubito chakra arms. Meanwhile Hashirama stated himself (and stated by others) that he stood no chance against even UNSTABLE Juubito. A BSM Naruto Bijuudama (which Minato should scale to) also damaged Juubito's TSO which tanked 4 Juubidamas, while Madara's PS was reduced to a small aura.
quick correction, Hashirama stated: "that man, is stronger than me." and this does not mean "stood no chance". minato don't scale to narutos bijus, flying raijin teleport =/= scale to. i agree with the idea and where youre going, but you are WAY over estimating and head cannoning the scaling. think back to "ranking hokage vid" by swag, minato has the broken flying raijin and perception time for sure, but he does not have the brick wall of power that is 1000 arm buddha thats the size of the original nine tails clad in in perfect susanoo.
@@meatykyun5981 I'm referring to Tobirama saying "Even if you reabsorb your remaining doppelgangers, you're no match, elder brother!" and Hashirama saying "I know." Them teleporting doesn't have to do with anything. They attacked in tandem and slapped away Juubito's chakra arms at the same time. Edo Hashirama never showed the ability to use Shinsuu Senju, but even if he used it, KCM Minato would easily dodge it or redirect it with Guiding Thunder.
Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, and Soul Stealing vs Susanoo Totsuka Blade Nagato will likely be first since Itachi starting with Susanoo is doubtful and Shinra Tensei can repel it
Floats in the sky, Chibaku tensei, fight over. Itachi doesny have the firepower to burst chibaku tensei by himself. Hell he'd struggle with animal path summons alone if he didnt sneak attack while Nagato was busy. Its laughable that anyone thinks Itachi is winning here.
@@shihoblade Amaterasu would destroy all animal paths. Push comes to shove Itachi has Izanagi which Nagato can’t get around. Ask Konan what happened to her
as for Chiyo, her problem is her puppets are like the seven swords men tools only she didn't have a way to summon them on hand and so in both she used puppet Ninjustu on those around her in basically the force version of what she did with sakura
I also feel you can’t be judging their strength based on what they did after they were reanimated, reason being they were reanimated for different reasons and got to fight random people or fight in specific ways. We should be ranking them based on their known strength with unlimited chakra
@J.A I'd like to hear Six's argument because watching the war arc it's just blatantly clear to me that Nagato is the stronger of the pair. At least after absorbing chakra.
@J.A Oh, that's weird though. Nagato understands how to use his abilities so much better than Kabuto does. I can only assume in that instance Nagato didn't want to fight them and chose not to fight? Because Nagato could both repel the attack easily or even absorb it.
@J.A Pretty sure Nagato with control would notice itachi chakara build up in his eye and prepare a counter. Kabuto is a noob he barely knew what Nagato could do
@@Jirrell this is the explanation. Nagato at 1st wasn't programmed to attack Itachi, they were both a team . Nagato himself warned them about amaterasu amd while the jutdu was being charged up killerbee sent a dagger at itachi( *after* Nagato warned them ) which Nagato deflected said dagger while itachi was still charging up that amaterasu. Nagato got this. Also why didn't Nagato just hit Itachi off the summoning? Because at the time he wasn't programmed to attack Itachi at all. Also Kabuto is smart yet he never made Nagato just get rid of Itachi(the main threat!!) He made Nagato to focus more on naruto and killer bee!!!!! Yh so much for Kabuto being so smart. I mean he is smart but to not focus more on Itachi?!
@@shafeckbrown496 Yeah I don’t think six and swag analyzed that major detail within the situation. Kabuto was very fixated on capturing bee and naruto before obito could he wasn’t really focusing on itachi. Factor in that fact plus Nagato wasn’t in control and you really cannot logically say itachi would downright beat Nagato one on one from that instance.
the entire shinobi alliance could not stop the ten tails, Hashirama shows up, drops the gracious deity gates, refuses to elaborate further, leaves
He had help from the other Hokage tbh. But yeah, Hashirama is a fucking beast
Meh, 'the entire shinobi alliance' is fodder tbh. Like, the entire shinobi aliance was getting bodied by Spiral Zetsu, then Hiruzenn showed up and stalemated it by himself offscreen for like 100+ chapters, which is why we have no feats for him.
hashirama a mood
I mean he's the second strongest kage for a reason
@@promikie1239 first*
I think some of the people Kabuto brought back were strictly for the purposes of psychological warfare. Like imagine if you're a hidden sand Shinobi and your fighting Granny Chiyo someone you idolized. There's a decent chance that you'll hold back or hesitate.
Facts
I thought that was stated 👀
You’re right though. The verse is 100% one that takes mental fatigue and stress into account
That's also why he brought back people like Sai's brother and Tsunade's dead lover. To demoralize strong members of the Leaf village.
@@chrisnorris3641 psyops
That was the intention in sending Haku and Zabuza to Kakashi for example
“He’s definitely above everybody who’s below him”
-Swagkage 2022
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@@nathanialb9115go cream urself
Edo Tensei pretty much nullifies Itachi's biggest weakness, that being his gas tank. He's definitely got more hax based abilities than almost anyone else on the list, and being able to use those infinitely drastically raises his viability in combat as opposed to when he was alive.
Nagato when the cripple goes away is literally able to solo everything. Son was raised in war , him soloing the alliance is more possible than itachi. Them combined is rape for anybody even obito
@@manicside5901 Obito vs. Itachi and Nagato wouldn’t be a rape, but they would definitely win.
Itachi wouldn't even need to have the ability to use anything infinitely, because most of his attacks are one shot based. And i've never seen him abusing or spamming any jutsu. The only thing that being edo took away was his disease and insufficent use of mangekyo techniques.
The only reason why Itachi is above nagato and only reason is because he’s an Itachi and we all know swagkage is heavily biosed when it comes to everything related to utchiha, especially itachi. If it’s up to him Itachi beats Obito. I fully understand the love for Itachi especially, but it gets tiresome when someone trying to argue about something that reeks bios and lack of anything that supports the claimed argument.
@@dendrien well, Itachi is an Itachi indeed
It was always weird to me that the 7 swordsmen were summoned back with their sword and the Kinkaku brothers were summoned back with the 6 paths tools but Chiyo and Sasori didn't have their puppets.
Agreed I mean maybe with the swordsman you could argue out of respect they were buried with their swords but the other 2 being as disliked as they were along with the monumental importance 6 path weapons would hold I very much doubt they would be buried with those tools.
Unless you want to go on a stretch and say Kabuto acquired all of this stuff before hand so he could equip his summons.
The 7 swordsmen were not summoned back with their swords. They summoned their swords themselves after they were reanimated
@@shoobadoo123 then why can't chiyo and sasori summon their puppets but they can summon their swords
@@sebz8362 well, the 7 ninja swordsmen had the scroll they use to summon their swords. Go back and watch the episode to see. I guess chiyo and sasori did not
@@shoobadoo123 I agreed with you until the very last sentence. Sasori had built in scrolls in his body to summon his puppet
Solid ranking. HOWEVER, don't let this distract you from the fact that every time the Six Paths of Pain talked to each other, Nagato was simply talking to himself.
Has that happened?
@@user-kr9cg5vc84 they acknowledge each other from time to time. Underrated comment for sure. He was playing mind games with ppl. Pain was a menace
Feel like Dan in his spirit form is really strong but has such an obvious weakness. He leaves his body behind completely defenseless. Might be how he died. Got jumped while using that technique
@@caesaremrichfam5057 Your reaction is hilarious, and makes this theory so much funnier
You could argue that, but because his literal soul leaves his body I wouldn’t be surprised if people who came across it thought he was dead.
Doesn't the whole Yamanaka clan have that same exact weakness when they use the mind transfer jutsu?
@Loki Jaxson because it might make people clone their mind imagine someone cloning a perfect replica mind of someone like Madara or a otsutsuki
@Loki Jaxson plus like, in the Sound attack on the Leaf during Orochimaru vs Hiruzen period. We see Ino's dad perform a mind confusion jutsu. He can take basically the control of somebody else body, while not having to send his mind into them.
Or the puppet mind trap jutsu from Danzo's bodyguard at the kage summit.
Their mind transfer technique is easily their most dicey one, I don't why they bother with it as Jonin.
What i love about kabuto is that u can deadass see which ones he brought for mindgames and which ones he brought to kick everyones ass, for example sai’s brother, and tsunades lover all retained their personalities for mindgames while nagato and itachi all turn into silent robots and had kabuto personally controlling them himself
its extra funny cause that means he just wanted to mess with people. dan makes sense as throwing the hokage off is smart. but, why do it to sai besides to just fuck around a bit.
@@ologyofeverything bro was feeling a lil mischievous
At this point, swag is trolling all Kakuzu fans because of that pain debate and i love it
Edit: the arguments in the replies is not helping you Kakazu fans 🤣
Swag won that debate btw. The yugito scaling is dogshit. Kakuzu reacts to one attack from 2 tails and is compared to kcm 1 Naruto. It's so dumb.
@@tiltedxfn3635 no, you're just ignorant. this is the same 2 tails that reacted to Bee{gauge lvl of speed) in combat 4th war, the same one Kakuzu defeated. By default what does that say of Kakuzu in comparison? People then try to hand-wave it away by saying they were amped but this is untrue. only their ocular perception was increased and their ability to coordinate and avoid attacks. This didn't make their chakra any higher, them any faster or stronger than their original states.
@@jason-vv6kv kakuzu got beat by a base naruto who's weaker than early shippuden sasuke, shut up.
@@DorkSoulss I mean, he was fighting Kakashi and the others before he came in and 1v1 rasen shuriken-ed him so
@@DorkSoulss kakazu actually was fighting multiple people. Regardless scaling in naruto isn’t linear. Because kakazu literally killed the 2 tails, and the 2 tails was able to keep up with naruto and killer bee in the war arc. This is a prime example of why scaling is trash. Naruto and friends also got bodied by a ostrich so it’s nonsensical.
I feel like Deidara could easily be much higher if we assumed he didn't have any problem just spamming his self-destruct. He might not be totally effective like that, but you'd basically have to be fast enough to travel the distance of his explosion radius and seal him faster than he can regenerate to do it again.
He definitely could’ve been one of the most OP edo tensei’s but yeah they nerfed him for some reason
@@roronoazoro2970 the reason being he would be too op lol
I was so sad back then, he had everything to be a top tier threat...
@@jhdivina I think he didn’t do that because he would be reusing art and art is an explosion. It can only happen once
Maybe he couldn’t do that because his molecular explosion would also destroy the seal that makes them regenerate Idk.
Crazy how Minato with no arms is still stronger than 95% of shinobi in the series 😂
lol, fr
Because it's Minato
😭🤣
You know in the Manga, Zabuza's "demon mist aura" I really thought was just stylistic as they called him demon of the mist. So I thought it was very strange when he used it as a power up later on
Its supposed to be a kekkei genkai right?
@@Pedrintavs No. Zabuza has none.
@@Dr.AutismGod oo ok, i got a little confused by the anime. So anyone (talented enough) can do the mist?
@@Pedrintavs I assume it's a technique that he developed, or something unique to his bloodlust
It's a unique aura that develop from his blood list experience rember he was even a ninja and was able to kill over a 100 ninja at a small age
I remember watching swagKage since I was in 7th grade, now I’m in my sophomore year in college. Man time flies
same here
True dat he was boutta kill 2 of the strongest jinchuriki if not for Itachi
Fr
been watching him since 7th too, a year above though, 20 year old junior, hope it goes well man
Yeah same just highschool sophomore instead.
Puppet users are seriously nerfed due to lack of equipment. I remember someone I knew saying Sasori was weak because he got defeated early in the great Shinobi war Arc, to which I responded, "yeah, no duh, he literally had none of his equipment".
He also got defeated by Sakura
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@@alldayagain He committed suicide tho
@@alldayagain He allowed himself to die. Sasori is stated to be above Deidara who's able to threaten Kakashi and push CS2 Sasuke to near-death. Both of these guys are far more capable than Beginning of Shippuden Sakura.
@@J0istress read the whole comment tho
@@javaughndouglas3641 read the whole comment tho
When I saw the title, I thought. " Swag's only doing this to get off of Madara"
I was thinking the same thing dude
I thought the video would start with, " Sooo, Madara then everyone else underneath him."
@@IsaacClodfelter true story though.🤣🤣🤣
And itachi
32:35 Agreed. In the show, to get stronger, people inject this guy into themselves. It is pretty blatant.
omg youre right thats frickin hilarious
Genuinely surprised that Yagura was in that place since he has a far more devastating skill set than most of the others (maybe not boil release) in my opinion. That mirror and coral jutsu is crazy.
Confused me as well. He had no business being below Yugito 🙄
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Not 100% sure since it's been forever and I don't remember if he did anything in the war but the one episode I remember him doing anything was filler so they couldn't really use it
You can tell they are just going off memory and weird justifications for the placements rather than in depth arguments
And he got a successful coral palm jutsu hit on Naruto which almost got him captured
That Storm 3 quote actually works against your point. The strongest summon was obviously Madara. So Kabuto is saying Nagato > Itachi
yeah but after itachi broke out of kabuto's control, kabuto says he underestimated itachi then lost to itachi so yeah.
@@sebz8362 Underestimated him in terms of his craftiness in being able to escape Kabuto's control, not in his fighting capabilities.
Edo Itachi to Kabuto : "Yo bro, you mad you reanimated me bro? Stop hitting yourself bro, stop hitting yourself."
@@crungusbungus2519 clearly kabuto underestimated itachi in that regard as well since he lost to him and wasn't expecting him to have more powerful genjutsu.
@@sebz8362 Itachi didn't beat him. Itachi and Sasuke beat him in a battle where Itachi had the ability to regenerate from all damage he received.
Not a video I would've expected, but one that I definitley want to watch
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i think kakuzu is a weird one. because his power is supposed to be in his hearts, and that's also what makes him so hard to kill and gives him access to several chakra natures, he's definitely super strong - he did fight hashirama and live to speak of it - but also... as a reanimation, it doesn't really do much for him, since it makes him immortal in the first place, and he needed to gather the hearts again before going back to full power... i dunno, it's kinda odd
Yeah, his strong part being a living shinobi was that you have to kill him five times (or Naruto blasts his whole body away on a micro level) but him being resurrected was kinda useless
The kakuzu bit is amazing because noodles reacts to basically every vid I can’t wait to see his reaction to it
Who dat?
@@Gold_Gamer_100 the "kakazu is stronger than pain" guy
@@Gold_Gamer_100 ua-cam.com/video/qulmDbg0kqk/v-deo.html here
@@justarandomguywithamask7o7 oh, neat
Even worse, he know says Kakuzu > Minato
28:24 Yes, as in Nagato is second only to Madara Uchiha himself. Not Itachi. But I think we seriously need a full in depth Edo Itachi vs Edo Nagato video.
Minato stomps Nagano and itachi
@@tistakere5055 Minato wasn't Kabuto's reanimation
Nagato Stomps no cap
@@josiahharden8793 Unfortunately Itachi stuck his totsuka blade right into Nagato's @ss
@@derallercoolste9999 after getting help from naruto and bee
Nagato stomps itachi 1v1
I remember I went through a huge Naruto phase last year and these videos would literally carry me through the day on my lunch breaks thank you
i wish swagkage posted more
"He's definitely above everyone who's below him" 🤣
My biggest anti-argument to base Minato being above anyone based on the interception feat alone, is that 6th gate Lee threw the kunai to intercept the orbs. And at the same time Gaara is moving Kakashi behind Madara to create the opening with Kamui. This has always been a highball at best type argument, and it's such an outlier, that it comes off as stronger than his amp forms. Just my opinion. Still a fair placement for him on an Edo list.
Lee was mentally amped cause his master was sacrificing his life and he had to help him in his last moments.
Gaara has some insane feats later in the war. Just 10 chapters earlier, he managed to react to and block a Susanoo blade from Rinnegan SM Madara, who was stated at the back of the volume to be stronger than Juubito.
Kakashi also has other insane feats. He reached for Black Zetsu at relative speed to KCM Minato, and has multiple other TSO related feats.
It's possible Minato just got faster. It's never been stated that Edos can't improve through fighting like they can when they're alive.
I think it’s mainly that he may not have thrown the kunai but he reacted to getting hit and teleported awa
thats more like a 6th gate Lee feat and not an anti feat cause youre saying that 8th gate Guy is slow, which he isnt.
@@kalamari1611 that’s exactly what it is
@@kalamari1611 yes, I think people are missing the point. It's not him just getting there. Its him catching the kunai, turning around and teleporting out all while 1 intercepting madaras attack, while 2 doing that while guy is running behind him at speeds that are bending space, and then 3 to top it all off teleports out without even a mark on his jacket... that's definitely a minato feat
Edo Nagato is underrated. He fought Killer Bee, KCM Naruto and Edo Itachi at a same time.
And got neg diffed bodied. By that logic Tenten also could fight Hashirama, Tobirama and Madara at the same time. She would die in one piko second, but she still fought them, right? 🤷♂️
@@Stolas9 Itachi, Naruto and Bee were literally about to get sealed and they had to work together. Bee even underwent full tailed beast transformation and last thing Kabuto was the one controlling Nagato and didn't know how to use all his powers and after Nagato got sealed he said that he wasn't mobile enough.
@@Stolas9 honestly why couldnt nagato just throw itachi on space or take itachi soul, like itachi is powerfull but nagato can defeat all of itachi powers if he wanted, but sadly was kabuto the one manipulating nagato.
And lost lmao what's ur point
@@Stolas9 dats a dumbass comparison cuz tenten would get one shotted by any move from any of em even a kunai, but nagato while nerfed actually made them fight for their fucking lives not once but twice... if it was for itachi naruto and bee would have been dead u think tenten could do the same against those 3?
I just appreciate the Minato love not enough people understand just how powerful Minato is he may not be able to beat Madara or Hashirama in a straight fight but he'd put up a great one and he's a genius on another level to most characters.
None edo minato gets low on chakra after one biju bomb. That's the main issue with the none edo
I feel like at this point hes becoming overrated. Still strong but people have legit bias for him
@@tjhicks3600 It's super hard to tell. Minato's scaling is all fucked, a bit on purpose by Kishi. It was very clear that he wanted Minato to be clouded in mistery, from the very beginning any information about his feats is very limited, again, on purpose, so he would be that "I wonder I strong Minato really was" type of character. Minato will never be properly scaled, unless Kishi decides to drop some data book or novel on him or something like that
@@mryellow6918 Yeah after having already teleported the entire shinobi army consisting of thousands of people, among other things. Dude has plenty of chakra.
You can think of Minato like this: he's literally the most powerful character in the series without a kekkei genkei or Jinchuriki power. Not even 8th gate Gai would probably be able to beat him, based on Minato's feat with Gai and Madara. THAT'S how strong he is.
Man it doesn’t make any sense at all to put minato over itachi but not madara and the first minato only get the edge on everybody’s list because of speed , because itachi pull needs shit put everytime he fights sombody new minato does the same stuff why would it work against itcahi an not madara and the first hokage it doesn’t make sense at all bruh lol seem like he jus gets the benefit of the doubt over everybody because of his speed and it start to not make any sense after awhile tbh
So glad y'all put respect on the 3rd Raikage, I've seen some people downplay him which is nuts. Great video certainly a definitive ranking.
Nagato would totally stomp. He was casually defending against kcm Naruto, Bee (v2), and Itachi..
And he even was telling them how to beat him. Essentially guaranteeing an opening.
To use a very specific spirit sword.
Circumstances people.
Naruto and bee would be clapped. If it weren't for a.) Reversing the Edo control and b.) What you have said. + itachi backpacked Bee and Naruto, and it was clear that bee AND naruto loses to edo nagato
Explain how itachi blitzed him twice
@@peacebeuponus24 itachi blind sided him and Kabuto took full control of Nagato
@@peacebeuponus24 They weren't true blitzes. Nagato literally senses Amaterasu coming and even comments on it, and the second blitz you're referring to was when Itachi was shrouded in smoke.
He did not tell them how to beat his strongest attack or how to get pass his path abilities but itachi go around all of that
Swag is singlehandedly keeping the Naruto franchise alive at this point.
Stop the cap
Come through with a more original comment next time
Six?
Nah bro that’s just not true. Swag is my favorite, but there are some great creators like Six for example
Nah he isn't
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Chiyo fought Hanzo on a regulary basis while all the sannins in their primes struggled to survive
What the hell. Early naruto world was so cool
What the heck was she doing in da rain village
@@cuhhplz_1402 War
Not quite... the 2nd Great Ninja War would have been while they were still growing, not quite in their prime yet. All things considered, they're likely only slightly past their prime in part 1.
They wasn’t in their primes
BRO six was trying so hard not to disagree with the tobirama ranking.
23:58 "that's definitely the more common ranking..."
25:13
"I'd say that I'm pretty comfortable with Tobirama being above him"
"To be fair, juubito does block that attack..."
Thank you swag for fighting for him being where he deserves
He should be higher tbh
@@chad22345 agreed
@@chad22345 how high do you want him?
@@mariball74 he definitely beats Itachi nagato and 3rd raikage, tobirama was near madara and hashirama level the guy is a ninjutsu master, Minato only creates rasengan ( which is very powerful) and uses flying raijin (which is created by tobirama)
Tobirama on the other hand was wayyy more tactical, creative and a fast thinker, if flying raijin was something he mostly and only use he’d be better and that’s all Minato has over him other than that tobirama out played Minato
@@Noblesavage31 I think tobirama would beat the 3rd raikage I can agree with that but he’s not beating itachi or nagato he’s never been up against the susauno or never even heard of the yata mirror or yasaka beads or totsuka blade or even Amaterasu or tsukuyomi he’s definitely not hashirama or Madara lvl there are way above him lol😭 they fought for a whole day he stood on the side lines n watched really wasn’t nothing he can do he never seen the rinnegan either or doesn’t know the 7 paths everything nagato can do is juss far above anything tobirama can do bro died to 20 s ranked ninjas n kinkaku and ginkaku which I feel like nagato is no diffing and minato is overall a better shinobi then tobirama kcm 2 minato claps tobirama low-mid diff
Something that annoys me is why wasn't Hiruzen reanimated in his prime like all the other hokage? We heard legends of how he used to be so much stronger; wouldn't it have been awesome if we finally could've seen that? It was the perfect opportunity, and Kishimoto wasted it.
His soul was trapped in the reaper death seal
Kishimoto forgot that Hiruzen went through adulthood before becoming an old man ^^.
@@quentinjones6877 That has nothing to do with his physicality. Madara was brought back young despite dying old.
@@reversalmushroom it does, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen and Minato's souls were trapped in the reaper death seal. Hiruzen was old when he used the jutsu against Orochimaru so he came back old
@@quentinjones6877 No. It was only Hiruzen and Minato who was trapped. Hashirama and Tobirama just died young.
Also it doesn't matter if someone died young or old, or if they were trapped in Reaper Death Seal.
Gengetsu is lame?? Gengetsu was cool af and his fight was hilarious. Clam. He had a CLAM.
Right. that was a bad take, gengestu was pretty entertaining.
@@Jirrell wish we got more of him. It was crazy how he was explaining his power and no one understood what tf he was talking about 🤣
@@laddjuuzo4998 lol Yeah that was funny
Blam!
@@gengetsuofthegiantclam6140 epic xD
I still really enjoy swag's videos glad you kind of miss the days when having somebody else on the video was like a special thing instead of just the norm
Yeah I enjoy Seth being here more than anyone. And even then it’s good every once in a while
Na six valid
IK the Kakuzu thing was a troll, but I feel like this is kinda valid of a position for him. The reason why he was so powerful was because of the fact he had 5 hearts and all basic tranformations, but here's the thing, his masks were all destroyed when he died originally and in edo form everyone is immortal anyway
Those it really matter that the mask were destroyed when he died when the mask came back anyways?
And he just got 5 new hearts during the war.
I think the fact that Deidara can spam C0 is enough to put him on top, probably not like number one but still.
thing is, he never did it. if he actually did it then yeah he'd be ontop
Itachi over Nagato is the most wild thing I have ever heard even just going off of their edo feats. It took Bee, Naruto, and Itachi together to put him down.
bee and naruto never looked more useless in their life
Itachi blitzing Nagato 3 times in front of your eyes, yet it’s the “most wild thing I have ever heard!!” Is very odd.
@@Umarohh he “blitzed” a Nagato that was being controlled by Kabuto💀 you must’ve missed the part where it took Bee, Naruto AND Itachi to stop ONE of Nagato’s attacks. 1v1 scenario Itachi gets 1 shot by Chibaku Tensei.
@@Umarohh If you're referring to the Amaterasu he was crippled and nigh-immobile, dont ignore that he shrugged it off right after. Itachi summoning Susanoo one? he did see it coming but i can only assume he was occupied with Naruto and Bee. The totsuka blade one? catching offguard ≠ blitzing. A Non-Crippled Nagato was even capable of outpacing Bee who reacted to Itachi just fine.
@@Umarohh All those "blitzes" are not blitzes my guy LMAO.
1) Nagato literally senses Amaterasu coming and comments on it. Why would he attack Itachi to prevent it when moments earlier he literally protected Itachi from other attacks like Bee's sword throw? It's obviously in his binding to protect other Edos.
2) Nagato's Shared Vision was taken out, meaning Nagato didn't see Itachi coming. It's not a blitz if it's a surprise attack.
3) Itachi's Susanoo was shrouded in smoke. Another surprise attack. And no, the Rinnegan cannot see through smokescreens before you try and say that garbage. Watch the Pain fight and you'll see smoke-bombs used so many times against the Rinnegan, in addition to literal DUST being blown across the battlefield by Shima to block Pain's vision.
back with another banger
No way Edo Nagato loses a 1v1. Visual genjutsu doesn’t work on him, he can absorb Amaterasu, and his sensing skills are so good he found Kabuto across a battlefield before Kabuto windows updated him. Like people argue Yata mirror and Totsuka blade while forgetting those manifestations are made out of chakra. Yeah good luck defending yourself in your giant armored skeleton when Nagato turns you into a slurpee.
I say the same thing every time. I doubt Itachi's Susanno is tanking a point blank shinra tensei. The fact Itachi loses so much of his mobility while casting Susanno is a GG with chibaku tensei. Not having Susanno up would leave him vulnerable to soul dragon, outside of the fact tai Justu is not an option against Nagato
susano’o*
@@willow9216 gets caught under chibaku tensei 💀
He doesn’t have to stand in the susanno go to the nagato vs itachi Naruto and killer bee he wasn’t standing in the susanno so that’s a plus
Don must've died while using that ghost thing. Someone attacked his body. That makes sense not dying by random ninjas
Future video Recommendation
1. Shisui Uchiha VS Itachi Uchiha
2. Tobirama Senji VS Kakashi Hatake(Sharingan)
3. Minato Namikaze VS Fugaku Uchiha
4. Ranking from average to greatest Geniuses/Prodigies
5. Ranking from weakest to strongest DouJustu
6. Ranking from weakest to strongest Nature Kekkei Genkai
7. POWER LEVEL VERSUS videos i would love to see your take on the characters strength
Thank you keep up the good content
Kakashi vs tobirama are u mad?
Shi sui vs itachi are u insane ?
Minato vs Fugaku could be fun. Altbough the fight might just be them showing off and yelling about who should be kage. Also Minato might ask how Fugakus MS abilities work, and get really annoyed at the answer of "magic hate eye".
If were not talking about DMS kakashi, tobirama just blizts
@@TheOrginalWockySlush at least you know how strong Tobirama is
nr 2 and 3 arent even close wtf tobirama and minato all day
i got problems with you putting asuma and hizashi above at lest pakura. she would vaporize them before they could even get close. the other genkai users also should probably be higher.
she's a hotty but she really has no note worthy feats
@@lordgreed1 We see her aoe vaporize like a 2,000-3,000 square meter area. what the fuck is either of those two going to do to that.
@@lordgreed1 and what does Hizashi have lmao? Being a lovely brother?
@@ohboi9578 I could just use the hyuga clan as a reference since they are known for their fast and accurate taijutsu compared to pakura's taijutsu which is ohh would u look at that nothing
Palm Rotation might be able to stop Scorch Style. Asuma just fought an easier to scale battle Ig
Kinkaku and Ginkaku are honestly easy cases to figure out. Yes, they're powerful due to having large chakra reserves, but they're extremely pragmatic, I would even say more pragmatic than average shinobi. There's no way in hell they fought Tobirama on even grounds, most likely using the Kinkaku force as extra fodder to weaken and distract the Second in order to kill him.
I’m sticking with the fact that Itachi showed absolutely nothing in his showings that showed he was stronger then nagato
Exactly Itachi needed narutos and bees help to beat just one of his jutsus and itachi caught nagato off gaurd
@@jonathan1authier146 Did he though? nagato literally was looking at the susano that cut his arm off, and he still got one shotted with the totsuka blade when it was right in front of him
@@GeorgeMMA that wouldn't have happened to begin with if naruto and bee weren't there
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@@jonathan1authier146 They wouldn't have fought each other to begin with then... What's the logic here...?
We need more team battles! Team Kurenai (Hinata, Kiba, Shino) VS. Team Asuma (Ino, Shikamaru, Choji)!!!
Team kurenai body slams team asuma..
Team kurenai wins hands down
I thought it would have been cool if the sound 4 had fought all of the Konaha 11 over (insert saskue in a jar pun i cant think of).
Team Kurenai wins pretty handily
Shino can pretty much do it himself. His insects move independently from his body, absorb chakra, can attack multiple opponents, and are too small for all Shadow Possession variants.
@Friendlyel For obvious reasons which includes Team Guy being down a man and Team 7 surpassing them greatly by the Pain Arc.
“Kakuzu is the weakest in the akasuki”😂😂😂😂😂 WTF
Naw mans is multi continental since he's got that RAW durability
@@beepboop4723 he literally has a better version of izanagi with his multiple hearts.
That title definetly goes to Hidan.
@@miguel9943 zetsu
@@miguel9943 hidan could probably beat sasori
moral of the story: if you have unlimited chakra and magical eyeballs (or you're a walking forest), you win
Didint expect a vid like this but I'll still watch
Hashirama showed up, saw the 10 tails and clapped his hands an nearly won
A Swag upload?? When the world needed him most, he vanished
I feel like reanimation buffed some characters to levels they never were at before and nerfed others into oblivion.
i mean nagato vs itachi happened as you said, but it was also a 1v3 and nagato wasn't even the one controlling his own actions. Bit skewed to use that as the basis for putting itachi above him.
do u want to debate why itachi beats nagato edo lmfao
@@spacenoodles3700 only itachi fanboys thinks itachi beats nagato
@@spacenoodles3700nagato wipes floor with itachhii
When was the last time Swagkage did a solo videos. I miss those, he put so much more effort in his thoughts.
I would like to see all 6 hours of the ranking video personally. And I am also curious where you would have put shisui
Problem between donzo and itachi because of the lack of info we have on him it's hard to scale him
I like when you Rank with actual video clips and manga panels vs just watching you move tiny pictures around like it's much better granted it's be a ton of work to rank every single character and add videos for all that so I get it.
Kinda want to see an in depth Nagato vs Itachi video now I’m interested how their throw down would actually go
It wouldn’t be any different. Itachi bodies alive Nagato
@@blakedove2263 itachi beat a nagato controlled by kabuto and also cudnt walk...
So no
@@demonicfruit8358Nagato could walk Bc he absorbed B’s chakra, idiot. He could walk, use all of his rinnegan powers from one body, had unlimited chakra and unlimited regeneration.
@@demonicfruit8358 Some of them literally get clapped by Jaraiyas genjustu, and youre telling me he has a chance against an an Uchiha prodigy?
@@xxkryptickaos3296 that genjutsu is one of the strongest Lmao
Curious how strong do you think Guy with Resurrection hacks could be? The ability to stay with the 8th gate open non stop would be up there with strongest characters in my opinion.
Would it work that way? I'd argue up to the 7th that could function but the 8th started to ash the body. Which would outspeed the other the regen or the gate ash effect?
Even with unlimited 8 gates Hacks he doesn’t change in position
@@christophercluster728 So he would still not be on the chart if he was on the chart?
Don't you need a real heart to activate the 8th gate? I'm not sure, but I think that's a requirement as you send all your Chakra to that area to create the blood mist.
@@if7723 no I mean like if you say he was too 10 strongest characters in Shippudden with regular 8 gates, unlimited 8 gates doesn’t boost his positioning, because the people above him are wayyyy stronger than him
30:47 "But edo Hashirama beat edo Madara."
That never made sense to me because edo Madara should logically stomp due to the rinnegan abilities, but he just doesn't use them for some reason. We don't see him pulling gigantic meteors out of the sky or freezing Hashirama in place or shinra tensei'ing him or creating robot weapons, and he should be able to just absorb all of Hashirama's wood style...but he doesn't. Plus he also has wood style which goes unused for some reason. We don't even see much of this fight. It's more like edo Madara with no rinnegan or wood style VS edo Hashirama. I don't care how it actually turned out; I put edo Madara far above edo Hashirama, and it only turned out the way it did because of weird plot contrivance where he bafflingly decides not to use a bunch of his best moves.
It's a bit weird the way, Madara (not 10 tails jinchuriki) only uses absorption, meteor and Limbo. Although limbo on its own is completely cracked (the dude litterally slapped Bijuus in the face, wtf 😂).
I think Kishimoto wanted Madara to have a different fighting style than Nagato, so they would feel different and have their own recognizable movesets.
I think he can’t absorb Wood Style. Wood Style I believe isn’t creating wood out of thin air, but rather causing the Earth to accelerate its growth tenfold so it instantly creates the wood structure you have in mind. It’s not made of chakra, it’s just wood structures manipulated by the user.
Yea I agree. Edo Madara losing to Edo Hashi made no sense considering that Madara had the power of the Rinnegan which he previously (when he was alive) didn't have. He also has the same wood release that Hashirama himself uses so there's that as well and to top it all off, it really looked like Hashirama could not use his Buddha statue which is his strongest technique of course and essentially the only ability that has the potential to beat Madara.
Only rineggan abilities that could work against hashirama is limbo and absorbs ninjutsu but maybe he can’t absorb sage abilities I don’t know just guessing why he didn’t absorb hashirama ninjustu maybe hashirama had too much chakra in his ninjutsu to absorb hsshirama does have highest chakra reserves in the whole series I mean madara absorb a tail beast bomb I highly doubt it hsshirama make nine tails look like a little pet fox
Also wasn't it established that Kabuto's Edo Tensei we're much closer to retaining their original strength than that of Orochimaru's Edo Tensei summons.
Well, Kabuto saying Nagato is his second strongest summon means he's second to Madara (you know), and then there is Itachi. I know Itachi is strong af, i just think people really downplays Nagato, who fought (and almost won vs) almost the entire leaf village as being not even in his full power, probably, as 6 paths etc. Though i get it's pretty closer than any can think so. But good job for the content, always fun to watch and listen to these power scaling stuff =)
Most common people loves to downplay Pain/Nagato and wank the uchihas while feats show that Edo Nagato is only below Madara and Hasirama.
This was a great video and I think everyone could agree that you could make the top 3 interchangeable
Nah
Imo minato is the weakest One Among them 3
Minato's definitely the strongest. He's relative to BSM Naruto.
Duality of man
@@AlanJia8 You know THAT Naruto without sage mode (barely makes a difference) lost to Madara, right?
Madara pinned Naruto with wood dragon and Naruto ran away.
@@charleschiemekaekeogu6908 Ah yes, SM barely makes a difference. Definitely not like it made Naruto go from on the backfoot against Tendo to sending him flying a dozen meters with a casual kick.
Anyways, that's early KCM2 Naruto. Even in just KCM2, he got stronger and more experienced, so that's a stronger KCM2 Naruto on top of a massive buff from SM.
Naruto didn't run away, he actually ran towards Madara and caught his Susanoo blade with a chakra arm.
26:36-26:41 *This does put a smile on my face :v*
I would like to get a vid about Kakazu. I always saw him as a pretty heavy hitter. He had a brutal physicality, he could blacken and “armor” his limbs, he’s strong as hell, quick, and really tricky to fight unless you’re in a group. Try dodging the five flying hearts while still in a fistfight with the original. I always thought he was cool and a little weaker than Kisame.
They're just memeing the hell out of kakazu bc of the Kakazu v Pain video
Got solo'd by tenten lol
@@mrprotoman154 that was her screen time for war arc more than her and Lee love story where she almost drown him
yo swagkage just wanna say i love your content it makes grinding though games hw anything 10x easier
I’m utterly disappointed that Edo Tenten wasn’t #1.
Would she be as strong as prime Tenten?
Tenten could never die she too powerful
I mean Edo ramen guy's Kekkei Genkai is pretty OP tho
Man i love the way you troll my favorite has to be saying he wouldn’t say Kakuzu is weaker than Sasori without puppets. Then immediately talks about how Sasori without puppets is right above him 😂😂
My man really leaving the channel to die
it took 2 years and multiple watches but i finally realized six introduces himself as six the programer and nobody has caught it yet😭😭
I feel the 6 Jinchuriki should be higher then the 4 Kage due to hurting a KCM1 Naruto in their base forms before then transforming and getting stronger
Edit: To avoid confusion, the Kage I mean are Muu, 3rd Raikage, Gengetsu and Rasa
I donno I feel like they are overhyped here. Most of those guys get killed in a 1v1 with like deidara when they were alive. But they do have some new eyes here so it's fair to put them above him I guess even if they dont really use their new eyes.
I disagree
Hashirama claps them by himself
Tobirama and Minato are too fast for them (obviously Hashirama as well but these two are speed and smarts for the most part)
And Hiruzen could give some great support with his Genjutsu or any of his million jutsu
@@GoldenMechaTiger Being a path of pain amps you. For example one of the pains was a random ninja that Nagato killed as a literal child. It’s why all the Obito Paths are so strong. They are being amped by a god tier character Obito
@@Enja___ the 4 kage I meant were Muu, 3rd Raikage, Rasa and Gengetsu. Sorry for confusion
@@TheEternalFlame57 You dont know if it's an amp or if it jusy brings you up to a certain level. It's possible it only makes you stronger if you're weak. And they're never shown using any of the rinnengan or sharigan abilities apart from the shared vision afaik and they wouldnt have that in a 1v1 obviously
Yooo, I feel like Hidan might actually be weak enough to make the zombie combo the actual weakest Akatsuki duo
"Hudson" lmao
@@AviorGloria oh shit thanks 😅
@@sillysimic79 nah Kakazu is above most of Akatsuki at number five he carries Hidan weak ass
i mean are they not? the only team that might be worse is Deidara and Tobi, and Tobi needs to troll all the fight
@@luciandemciuc3960 Right, but I would count Kakuzu among the stronger Akatsuki members (currently, he flip flops with me) so the fact that Hidan being weak enough to water down the team that much is something I hadn't actually considered til dude brought it up
I think Nagato would win because kabuto didn’t know how to control him and Nagato was most likely resisting kabuto
Kabuto said he could perfectly use nagato
The two times Nagato was forced to do something by Kabuto (before the FULL control) were the two times Nagato said he had LOST control. Nagato was actively trying to resist ET.
Naruto
@@peacebeuponus24no he didn’t
This was a great video and I love when you guys work together
I think Kimimaro is the weirdest out of all of them, becaus fighting KCM Naruto with only cm1 without loosing is pretty crazy when you compare it with the other Naruto colne that fights the third Raikage.
Kimimaro is slept on. He straight up beats gaara and lee in a 2v1 while his body doesn't even work anymore. He also has the literal best durability feat in the entire series, straight up tanking the compressive force of an ocean of sand 100 meters thick being squeezed into him... and then muscles his way out. That's a feat of inhuman strength surpassing what we see from Sage Mode Naruto, and the durability it shows is hard for me to truly describe for people who don't already get it.
@@dontmisunderstand6041 Finally someone gets it.
Does that mean that CM2 Kimimaro would have beat KCM Naruto
@@christianstokes5412 Well it is easy to go crazy with him. CM2 is 10x base power cm1 is only double, so he would be 5 times stronger than when he fought the clone, so he would be like 5 times the 3rd Raikage and the 3rd Raikage would probably be the strongest out of the 5 kage that Madara fought or a least secound. So Kimimaro would compare to 5 kage, if not even stronger. But he also has the edo tensei debuff (about 30-20%), wich would mean you could put in an editional Raikage at least. So if Kimimaro would be healty in part one he would solo the entire verse. xD War Arc powerscaling is very weird. :D
@@dontmisunderstand6041 lee was weakend cause he just got out of the hospital so his leg and arm was not as powerful as it’s supposed to be nor did he use any gates
The tobirama disrespect. They don't even spell his name right. 🦍
It clear that they don’t like him. He should be number 3 tbh
@@chad22345
Six literally said he hates Tobirama in his Hokage ranking video.
@@chad22345 stronger then nagato?? I need wat you smoking
hes lucky to be above kinkaku and ginkaku. they already beat him swag and six just didnt wanna make yall mad
@@AidenB1010 Those 2 + 20 other S Class Ninja defeated a non full power Tobirama. Crazy.
26:36 Swag is just dieing inside when he says this.
True 😂
I really don't understand why Itachi's above him though. He would've been sealed by chibaku tensei easily if he didn't have two biggest tailed beasts on his team AND the initial element of surprise to catch Nagato with amaterasu in the first olace.
@@dustingaethje1332
He didn't catch him by surprise with Amaterasu. Nagato saw Itachi light up all of his summonings and he realizes Itachi is turning on him before itachi even casts it on him. And he was right in front of Nagato. And Nagato still got blitzed by it. Later one, Itachi blitzed again with Totsuka Blade and again while right in front of him.
Nagato Edo > Itachi, Kabuto said himself Nagato is the 2nd strongest Edo Tensei he has in his sleeves under Madara.
This was made when Itachi was no longer under his control
Itachi is overrated, did you rly put him over 3rd Raikage, 2nd Tsuchikage, 3rd Mizukage , Hiruzen, Tobirama lol
@@TheDzudas ?
I agree with everything said here except that Itachi was stronger than Nagato. I think Nagato is more powerful than Itachi. The two really didn't throw down at all. You have about two moves from each. Both of Itachi's moves were made under concealment and Itachi had a lot of help dealing with Chibaku Tensei. (making up at best 50% of the force required to destroy it . which in my opinion is high balling him. I'm more comfortable saying he was closer to a 33% to 40%) if Itachi could have destroyed Chibaku Tensei alone he would have done so. add to that, Kabuto really had no idea what Nagato was capable of as he himself stated.
But what does chibaku tensei supppse to do to a reanimation? the only reason he said to destroy it was bcz Naruto and Bee would get caught in it
@@piratehunterzoro702 My interpretation was that Itachi couldn't destroy Chibaku Tensei on his own and that he needed Naruto and Bee. If he had gotten caught in it I doubt he would have been able to dig himself out. Again, because if he could have, he likely would have just done so. Other arguments I have would be that Nagato can literally use Bansho Tenin to just gank Itachi out of his Susanoo and get him with one of the pain rods. if they worked on reanimated Hashirama they will work on Reanimated Itachi. I will concede that Tsukuyomi might just be an auto win for Itachi, (it is in almost every case) I don't know how or even if it would work on Nagato. Since the Rinnegan is simply a superior Dōjutsu then the Mangekyō Sharingan. either way, even IF Itachi could win this fight on his own, between the animal summons, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Chakra Absorption, the Pain Rods that disrupt chakra. Nagato still has crazy hacks, AOE, and DPS, that none of the other Reanimated characters can match, (except Madara and Hashirama.) making him, IMO, the more powerful of the two.
Itachi took naruto and bee's help to destroy CT cuz he had no idea how much destructive power it takes to destroy CT. So Itachi wanted to gave maximum destructive power as possible that's why itachi took naruto and bee's help. Yasaka beads are actually highly destructive if you check in naruto ninja storm
@@andakin117 There is no way that the rinnegan has resistance toward something like tsukyomi the way it works is damm near instantaneous and it’s even debatable that sasake actually broke out of it. Besides chibaku tensei isn’t an instant i win button anyways kurama was resisting it for a while. Itachi with his Susanso could literally just do the same or spam multiple yasaka beads into the center.
@@sovereignlux3827 Respectfully I disagree. basically every piece of lore points to Nagato being the most powerful person in the Akatsuki. (and alive at the time in general.) I could see maybe Itachi being able to win a 1v1 with Nagato maybe. but that doesn't mean that Itachi is more powerful, just that he's got the hacks and know how to deal with someone like Nagato. (kinda like Team 7 vs Kaguya. or team 7 minus Kakashi vs Gaara and Shukaku.) There really is no debating that the Rinnegan makes just about every character with it absurdly overpowered. as for the infinite chakra I don't think a lot of people think that means they can dump unlimited chakra into a single move. (otherwise Deidara could have blown the entire world up with C-0. the same would go for basicially all other characters that have been reanimated.) Or that the can just spam the same technique without molding chakra. and to compare Itachi to even half of Kuruma's power is a bit of a stretch if you ask me. this would definitely be a good fight, but all and all, I still see Nagato being more powerful.
Imagine doing a tier list with kabuki next time
"BUT I SAID-" yea i can imagine him Screamin all day
Experience tho
Where Swagkage been? Been missing these vids
Another Feat I would add for Hashirama was that he was the only Edo stated to be able to break out of the Mind control IF HE WANTED TO with the amount of power he was revived at compared to last time and Hash was revived only close to his max power. I'm pretty sure Madara can do it too if wanted. That's still pretty nuts though since a Hash revival would backfire on you so hard if you had bad intentions.
Madara didn't get controlled from the beginning XD
@@dalinhomelki6912 He did but he managed to break through
@@dalinhomelki6912he was
@@mat_s245dlche knew the Edo tensei signs which he clearly mentioned that's why...only Hashirama is able to break with pure force
Kakazu deserved #1. His RAW DURABILITY is solely enough for the number 1 spot 😂
I might sound high, but I really think that Tobirama is stronger than Itachi. And Nagato is stronger than both.
It might seem like Itachi would be smarter than Tobirama, but that’s not the case. Tobirama knows all about the dangerous jutsu of the uchiha clan. And, he created some of the most ridiculous techniques in the whole series. He actually killed a very strong MS user in the form of Madara’s brother in a 1 vs 1. He’s super fast, super smart, has a ton of shakra since he’s literally Hashirama brother.
Now y’all really out here nerfing Nagato like that. The rinnegan, the chakra reserve of an Uzumaki, very skilled taijutsu fighter. Itachi literally surprised my guy Nagato because y’all forgot to mention this. But it was a 3vs1 at that point. If you want to assume that Itachi could seal away Nagato in a 1vs1, then he should have able to do the same with KCM Naruto, Killer Bee, and pretty much anyone else below him in this list. Because Nagato is clearly stronger than KCM Naruto and Bee together. The thing is that once you know about the totsuka blade, you just have to dodge it. And Nagato should be way faster than Itachi.
Finally, for God’s sake he has a freaking Rinnegan and infinite chakra. How can Itachi beat that in a 1vs1? Y’all crazy as hell!
Edo nagato was stronger because he was dieing
Itachi negs tobirama and nagato beats itachi
@@mariball74 no you got it wrong other way around bud
@@Mortysmithc136 tobirama died to kinkaku and ginkaku im pretty sure Itachi negs lmao and nagato is stronger then itachi but it can go either way but I’d still say nagato wins
Bro tobirama knew about uchiha's but itachi is a different thing than a average uchiha.
When this man gonna post again
Swagkage talking about Dan: "He's definitely above everybody who's below him." Ya don't say
“He is definitely above everyone whos below him”
I really think that Edo Nagoto could beat Itachi. But im pretty sure Edo Nagoto could beat Minato in a fight if they fight as Edos.
Edo nagto is not beating itachi edo you all forget itachi has izagni and has one shot kills as his arsinal he can just keep spamming …
@@Lebanese55 at soon as he uses izinagi with out hashirsma cells more than once he loses both sharingan and no susano even with the assumption that one would not get rid of susano but itachi wins because only jutsu nagato can use is chibaku tensei with is a good opening for being poked
@@Lebanese55 Itachi has never used Izanagi. Not once. And if he uses it, it'll erase his arsenal, for just an instant of usage. Nagato>Itachi, and it's not close, hence why Itachi needed Bee and Naruto
@@zacharyrosenberg3037 he needed them? Lmao without itachi they would have been one shotted how much actual help were they? And just cus he never used it doesn’t mean he can’t he used izamni which means he can use izanagi we never even got to see his true potential with a fully formed susano and he still did all these feet’s while he was alive .. imagine not sick at full power his entire character was handicapped for literally almost all his life lol stop it we saw pretty much nagatos full potential and his eyes aren’t even his hes nothing compared to itachi and it’s not even close to be honest even a half sick itachi can body nagato
@@Lebanese55 Nagato bodied bee and Naruto simultaneously, and Itachi needed them when he fought Nagato. Like, we understand that Itachi's arc is "learns he can't do it all himself," right? That the fight with Bee and Naruto taught him that? I also like now how we're just using Fanfic Itachi. Sure, if we give him Izanagi (which he never so much as said he could use) and a perfect, Full body Susanoo (Which he also never had), then he'd be stronger. Like sure, okay. But that's not the Itachi in the actual manga. If you say Nagato's Rinnegan is "nothing compared to Itachi," you're basically a ridiculous fanboy and can be safely ignored.
Kakuzu weak?
Man can use all 5 chakra elements and combine them together.
He kinda clapped Kakashi that only got one of his hearts because he was sneaking around.
Yeah yeah Sasori has 100000 puppets, and Kakuzu can just make a tornado of flames that would disassemble all of them in an instant.
He can also harden his skin to be pretty much immune to any puppet - as for the poison inhaling I am not sure.
And yeah don't think kazekage puppet can do much considering the arsenal of brutal jutsus that kakuzu has.
Pretty solid list always loved y’all’s vids 🤙
Im so glad about the minato placement and arguably other placement, i think swag and six is kinda hinting on a kcm minato vs ems madara thing, very solid placement, i like the itachi placement as well he strong as hell as well as the nagato one.
I'd think Edo Madara considering that's what Swag is saying is debatable
@@AlanJia8 its just the rinnegan and stuff i dont know how minato deals with the rinnegan
@@momotheone9700 Madara never used the Deva Path, Asura Path, Animal Path, Naraka Path, or Human Path. He only ever used the Preta Path, and even then, only to absorb incoming attacks, never to steal chakra from people like Nagato. So in character, the Rinnegan isn't much of a factor.
Anyways Minato can deal with all of the abilities. He can teleport away if Madara tries pulling him in, just tank a regular Shinra Tensei with his KCM cloak or if it's a larger one, summon the Kurama Avatar to tank it, blow up Chibaku Tensei with Bijuudamas or teleport away until it's done pulling objects in, tank or dodge any Asura Path weapons, use a contract seal to get rid of Madara's summons, and teleport away if Madara tries ripping out his soul or sucking his chakra.
@@AlanJia8 ohk so how does minato get the seal on madara, because hes gonna need the seal? on him to get pass the perfect susanoo, not saying minato kcm avarltar doesnt scale, but in case of that not being the case, how does minato get the seal on madara?
@@momotheone9700 the fact that he believes minato claps hashirama and madara is insane given what swag and six just said that he can't
Ngl, KCM Minato slaps tf out of the Edo founders. He demonstrated relativity to BSM Naruto against Juubito and slapped away multiple Juubito chakra arms. Meanwhile Hashirama stated himself (and stated by others) that he stood no chance against even UNSTABLE Juubito. A BSM Naruto Bijuudama (which Minato should scale to) also damaged Juubito's TSO which tanked 4 Juubidamas, while Madara's PS was reduced to a small aura.
Edo Madara vs Edo Itachi who wins
@@Umarohh Madara
quick correction, Hashirama stated: "that man, is stronger than me." and this does not mean "stood no chance". minato don't scale to narutos bijus, flying raijin teleport =/= scale to. i agree with the idea and where youre going, but you are WAY over estimating and head cannoning the scaling. think back to "ranking hokage vid" by swag, minato has the broken flying raijin and perception time for sure, but he does not have the brick wall of power that is 1000 arm buddha thats the size of the original nine tails clad in in perfect susanoo.
@@meatykyun5981 I'm referring to Tobirama saying "Even if you reabsorb your remaining doppelgangers, you're no match, elder brother!" and Hashirama saying "I know."
Them teleporting doesn't have to do with anything. They attacked in tandem and slapped away Juubito's chakra arms at the same time.
Edo Hashirama never showed the ability to use Shinsuu Senju, but even if he used it, KCM Minato would easily dodge it or redirect it with Guiding Thunder.
@@AlanJia8 hmm that is true, forgot hash did pull that out at all, edo nerf sucks.
When it comes to Nagato vs itachi, it comes down to whoever gets their hax off first.
Rinnegan shit better bruv
Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, and Soul Stealing vs Susanoo Totsuka Blade
Nagato will likely be first since Itachi starting with Susanoo is doubtful and Shinra Tensei can repel it
Floats in the sky, Chibaku tensei, fight over. Itachi doesny have the firepower to burst chibaku tensei by himself. Hell he'd struggle with animal path summons alone if he didnt sneak attack while Nagato was busy. Its laughable that anyone thinks Itachi is winning here.
@@shihoblade Amaterasu would destroy all animal paths. Push comes to shove Itachi has Izanagi which Nagato can’t get around. Ask Konan what happened to her
You know what's a good video dissection of danzo character.
as for Chiyo, her problem is her puppets are like the seven swords men tools only she didn't have a way to summon them on hand and so in both she used puppet Ninjustu on those around her in basically the force version of what she did with sakura
i love Tobriama, he’s my fave character
I also feel you can’t be judging their strength based on what they did after they were reanimated, reason being they were reanimated for different reasons and got to fight random people or fight in specific ways. We should be ranking them based on their known strength with unlimited chakra
Where has this man been..
I was hoping that they had put Nagato and Itachi in seperate tiers, because they disagreed so much on stream😂
@J.A I'd like to hear Six's argument because watching the war arc it's just blatantly clear to me that Nagato is the stronger of the pair. At least after absorbing chakra.
@J.A Oh, that's weird though. Nagato understands how to use his abilities so much better than Kabuto does. I can only assume in that instance Nagato didn't want to fight them and chose not to fight? Because Nagato could both repel the attack easily or even absorb it.
@J.A Pretty sure Nagato with control would notice itachi chakara build up in his eye and prepare a counter. Kabuto is a noob he barely knew what Nagato could do
@@Jirrell this is the explanation. Nagato at 1st wasn't programmed to attack Itachi, they were both a team . Nagato himself warned them about amaterasu amd while the jutdu was being charged up killerbee sent a dagger at itachi( *after* Nagato warned them ) which Nagato deflected said dagger while itachi was still charging up that amaterasu. Nagato got this. Also why didn't Nagato just hit Itachi off the summoning? Because at the time he wasn't programmed to attack Itachi at all. Also Kabuto is smart yet he never made Nagato just get rid of Itachi(the main threat!!) He made Nagato to focus more on naruto and killer bee!!!!! Yh so much for Kabuto being so smart. I mean he is smart but to not focus more on Itachi?!
@@shafeckbrown496 Yeah I don’t think six and swag analyzed that major detail within the situation. Kabuto was very fixated on capturing bee and naruto before obito could he wasn’t really focusing on itachi. Factor in that fact plus Nagato wasn’t in control and you really cannot logically say itachi would downright beat Nagato one on one from that instance.
Chiyo uses sasori 's parents as puppets alongside sakura to beat sasori in the manga
Minato’s placement is solid I’m happy about that.
Yeah
he should be lower
I love how you guys talked about pakura, shes my favorite character in naruto shippuden just based of design and jutsu she uses. Great video!!
Gari is better