@@ahmadjeffery1to a certain degree the dude can’t regenerate from a single cell, Minato is disintegrating that fraud in no time without any effort, JJK verse is light work, case closed.
@@kaizel2264 LITERALLY😭 BRO'S BEST (destructive, Since the strongest is world cutting Slash) MOVE IS A NUKE AND MINATO BE FIGHTING THERE WITH CONTINENTAL-PLANETARY THREATS
I know we're all sad about JJK ending but you don't gotta put Sukuna up against the thunder god like that bro. He alr got cooked in his own series and now you doing him like this is crazy work
people love to do it for gojo by putting him up against people he has no chance against. only fair that it happens to sukuna too. especially when there's people who consider him to be the absolute "strongest".
@@Reseptics gojo at least has better chances then sukuna. Infinity to make him untouchable for those without the hax or speed and unlimited void to bypass durability.
Plus you gotta deal with rage baitters and the annoying fans that only watch there characters anime and they dride there characters nonsense arguments this why I stopped watching powerscaling vids now cause it’s lame 💀💀
@@TheGoatedAerJJK hax are cool I guess but that’s about it their overall stats are just lackluster JJK verse is just weak in the grand scheme of fiction.
The one problem with JJK being one of animes with the somewhat grounded verses is that they get cooked in a lot of out of versus matches leading to a Homelander kind of situation.
@@omarfarah-q6e if daagon's domain make him island lvl, gojo's domain makes him universal. And since time doesn't flow in the prison realm, it makes IN FACT gojo immesurable speed. Goku is immesurable speed bc he moved even when hit's time skip was activated. So I can't see why gojo can't claim this feat
jjk wasnt even in this reply section plus you highballing the hell out of jjk i love it just as much as the next guy but going around spreading misinformation is just stupid
I'm so proud of y'all in these comments 🙏🏿😅. Thanks for giving Minato his praise. I remember yrs ago after the manga ended Folks were slandering Minato. Glad to see that era has passed & his respect has returned💯
In the jjk gacha game Teen gojo (who didn't get his awakening yet) had destroyed a mountain. Gege and one of his editors were involved in the game. I know minato wins but I just wanted to point this feat out
in Minato's one shot manga thats canon a poison, impaled, tired, and chakra exhausted Minato in Kushina's mind (where hes weaker since hes a mental projection) clashes his just learned and named rasengan with a full powered Kuruma held by Kushina's chains. A 50% Kurama can already blow up mountains. That Teen Gojo game feats pales in comparison to Teen Minato lol
24:51 Love the video! but want to point out a flaw in this logic. It is possible the time it takes flying thunder God to move something is affected by the amount chakra it's moving And That that time can be mitigated by using more chocolate. KCM Minato flying thunder God is faster because of the KCM
My two goats cooking me a Thanksgiving meal early tonight 😋 Edit: OMFG, THANK YOU! Kashimo's lightning was aiming for Hakari's face because that was literally the only place Kashimo attacked. The cope and unwarranted skepticism around that scene is unbelievable. And Mach 3 is an outlier. If Maki really got blitzed by that level of speed she'd have around peak human reaction speeds. Which is is worse than Megumi.
There are some things I would like to give to you to use in future JJK scaling video whether it's in a cross-verse battle or not. 1. There is a higher end scaling for Sukuna's combat speed through Gojo's teleportation. Base off the original japanese text from JJK which is (瞬間移動/Shunkan Utsuri dō) it translates to "instantaneous teleportation" (according to Google translate), and Gojo is able to use it in close quarter combat in chapter 231 and keep in mind that Gojo would have to physically and mentally be able to process what's going on when he is moving at those speeds in quick succession in close quarter combat, and the fact that Sukuna was still able to keep up with him saids a lot about his speed. This is even supported in chapter 15 and episode 7 of season 1 when Gojo deflated a sure-hit attack from Jogo's domain, granted it was just a similar attack that was coming from one direction and not it being multiple attacks coming at Gojo omnidirectional but the fact Gojo can respond to and counter it like that does support him having instantaneous combat speeds. 2. There are three ways to scale Sukuna's strength and power. (Low-end scaling) In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone" which is important since that is where tectonic plates dive back into the mantle of the earth, and he would have been getting crushed by two tectonic plates diving back into the mantle thus he would have had to physically push the plates apart in order to leave and met up with Kenjaku and by doing this he created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the calculations for this feat from "VS BATTLE WIKI" puts it around 4.204942e+19 to 2.364613e+20 joules or island levels of power. In Goji-Chronic's "Ryomen Sukuna vs Nicole Watterson" video had a calc that brought Gojo's earthquake to around 1.61453537E+23 joules or 38.588 teratons of TNT (country level) which is backed up by other calcs in the video for other characters..... Sukuna clearing the sky in his fight with Makora: 3.601E+18 joules or 860.646 megatons of TNT (mountain level+) to 617156124E+20 joules or 147.503854 gigatons of TNT (large island level). Hana using Jacob's ladder (with both arms) on Sukuna: 4.33142375E+22 joules or 35 teratons of TNT (country level) Uraume effortlessly created a storm in chapter 236 and 237: 5.4 teratons of TNT (small country level+) (Mid-end scaling). The durability/toughness/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane. Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling. (Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI) Small town level 4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level. Town level 2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level. Large town level 4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level. Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly blocked it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters. Further evidence that supports this is the fact that Tengen was powerful enough to suppress half of Yuki's black hole which has been calculated to be around large planet to dwarf star level, and Kenjaku stated that the earth would've been destroyed if not for both Tengen's barrier and Yuki's will suppressing it which means that if Tengen didn't help in suppressing it the earth would have still been destroyed, and before people say that it was hax and it doesn't scale to her keep in mind that not long after Tengen helped suppress half of Yuki's black hole she is shown in a heavily weakened state from suppressing it thus her barrier's strength scale to her physical body as well. And both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than Tengen is, thus they would not only scale to Tengen's feat but above it as well. Example 2: Hanami is comparable in strength to Jogo whose "Maximum: Meteor" was stated it can turn a town and its surroundings to ashes and dust (according to the "official JJK fan book"). According to "VS BATTLE WIKI" the AP of the Meteor would be around 8.3086954e+23 joules or around large country levels of power. Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around multi-solar system levels of AP and Hanami took five of them and was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all. (High-end scaling) In chapter 234 Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash, further evidence supports this with Gojo's "Unlimited Hollow Purple" being able to obliterate Makora who was able to take two Black Flashes from Gojo and didn't sustain anywhere near the same level of damage that Agito did from just one Black Flash from Gojo. Thus by adding this to the scaling above you would get both Gojo and Sukuna's AP to around "solar system levels" to "multi-galaxy levels" to "universal levels' of power. Chapter 219 supports this with a character named Yorozu who was able to create a "True Sphere" with her "Curse Technique: Construction" which is creating infinite pressure, and before people say that it is hax that doesn't scale to her directly chapter 42 and episode 17 of season 1 states that "Curse Technique: Construction" can put strain on the body of the caster as shown when their nose is bleeding and the fact that Yorozu could still be able to use "Domain Expansion" after creating the True Sphere shows just how powerful she is and both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than her. I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is most likely true.
Weapons in naruto scale to their user, this was explained before multiple times, but you can always trust mor*ns like you to lack reading comprehension
Unless it's KCM Edo Minato. He loses to Kaido. He has a very fast reaction speed, and will catch alive Minato off guard. Just one hit is enough. And there's nothing alive Minato's arsenal to hurt Kaido.
0:12 I am not actually sure Kushina was pregnant only after the war or not. It was definitely not nine months later, though, as the pregnancy of a host lasts ten months, which is a fairly obvious detail that was missed... Not certain he was given the Uzumaki name until after Minato died, either. 6:09 That is not how Sage Mode works. It is the balancing of chakra, not an expenditure, which then activates the body and bolsters all taijutsu and ninjutsu, and also bolsters reaction/sensory abilities. Not having enough chakra would prevent someone from entering Sage Mode at all, and Sage Mode is implied to boost the user tens/dozens of times over their previous state, so that he was able to enter it at all probably would indicate he is above base. The speed scaling is conflating Minato's Body Flicker with combat speed, which is fine, but using it in conjunction with other characters not using Body Flicker is a bit off, as 22:00 It appears Hachibi's tails are weaker than the rest of his body as even a near-collapse Taka Sasuke was able to cut one off. 23:00 The Hiraishin is a variant of the Summoning Jutsu, which is only ever described as actually bringing one from one point to another. Altering the speed does not change this, but changing the destination would, and I doubt it can be altered to such a degree. He probably would have tried it on Obito if that were possible. It is also possible the length of time was instead due to a combination of size and distance, countered by the amount of chakra put into it, so Tobirama's clones and Kurama Mode would be faster despite possessing more chakra.
@Gamblrr also just want to say i believe it was said that if the brain is injured or destroyed reverse curse technique would not work as positive curse energy comes from the brain and negative from the stomach both are needed to perform it. So if Sukuna really did cut off his head with that cleave the entire connection from his brain to the rest of his body would have been severed which would have stopped him being able to use reverse curse technique. Which is also why gojo died from being cut in half since his stomach was also severed.
I really don't think that the Mach 3 scene is a blitz because we literally see Maki standing till to try and catch Naoya but the sheer momentum and force of the hit was what destroyed her
@Gamblrr Only problem i can see in the beggining is putting Kurama over Hashirama or his wood style since his strongest wood style over powered kurama wearing that perfect susano drip and put him to sleep. So i'd say Hashirama clearly scales above regular kurama.
12:55 this been debunked 1. moving in a timeless space doesnt grant you innacessible speed - especially in gojos case. Kenjaku literally says that any victim of the prison realm can choose to illk themselves which would grant random fodder inaccessible speed then too 2. gojo has spatial manip and didnt achieve the feat due to raw speed
@@CluelessMonkeyKing because it anime logic jus becuase time doesn't flow doesn't always mean the person should be frozen in time JoJo Bizzare Adventure have a handful of characters who can move within stopped time or spaces ignorant of time and yet only one character as infinite-inaccessible speed
@@CluelessMonkeyKingCause it implies anybody can move in the prison realm via someone committing suicide, so it just wouldn’t make sense narratively if someone moving in the time realm is inaccessible.
That kurama scan only applies to half of kurama so minato would be two times that. Moving in the prison realm would mean the dead bodies are also at that speed so wouldn’t that be an outlier ?
Unless you put sukuna against featless characters he’s massively out classed by a lot of the Naruto verse haku and zabuza would literally be the hardest fight of sukuna’s life the both heavily out speed him and can one shot him with physical attacks alone
6:19 but the Minato that was helping guy did not have much time to recover though and lost an arm. Not to mention you use that Minato as though he is at full power as evidence to being on par with Kakashi so what gives? Kinda fishy
Some genin in naruto have a chance at soloing the jjk verse except Gojo because of infinity. Such as kid sasuke (no curse mark), rock lee, gaara, naruto, and shino. (There could be more but I don’t think there is)
Edo Tensei don't get tired so saying he was exhausted wouldn't be true. Kurama being "planetary" is also misinterpreted. Saying he can "turn the world to ash" is vague and really just means he can destroy everything on the planet, not the actual planet itself. Same with sakuna if you really want to get him to that level. The unreal scaling is also just that, unreal, because it's incredibly overscaling sukuna with little evidence to back it up.
"Edo Tensei don't get tired so saying he was exhausted wouldn't be true." They can actually Minato even says at one point he doesn't have the chakra to use FTG. "Kurama being "planetary" is also misinterpreted. Saying he can "turn the world to ash" is vague and really just means he can destroy everything on the planet, not the actual planet itself." Kurama doesn't just have that statement however his Biju bomb is stated to have "Earth Shattering Destructive Power" His biju bomb once again is stated to be planetary in Saikyou Jump magazine "It's a deadly Ninjutsu caused by an enormous tailed beast!! it's power can even blow up the earth" So Kurama being planetary is heavily consistent.
@@SRVaris That has nothing to do with being tired, not once do we see an edo tensei summon get tired. Kurama has no actual planetary feats, only showings of being able to destroy large land masses. "Turning the world to ash" is too vague to say it's planetary.
@@Auron1Roxas2 "That has nothing to do with being tired." Chakra = Stamina and here is a direct quote "Sorry, No! My Chakra's Been Drained By That Last Flying Raijin" "Kurama has no actual planetary feats" Feats are irrelevant in the face of WOG statements. "Turning the world to ash" is too vague to say it's planetary." But its not just "Turn the world to ash." Its "Earth Shattering Destructive Power" and "It's a deadly Ninjutsu caused by an enormous tailed beast!! it's power can even blow up the earth" as well which aren't vague at all its made VERY clear Kurama can destroy a planet so yes he is planetary objectively speaking.
It’s because he is not, gojo is more powerful and has better hax. They’re relative in power but gojo is definitely above him. And yes he did lose to sukuna but remember that battles in jjk are often won not by power but by preparation and surprise factor (Sukuna was better prepared with full knowledge of Gojo’s kit and he had his cards well hidden so Gojo was improvising all the fight while Sukuna always had a plan ahead)
Simple he doesn’t have infinity. Infinity is what carries Gojo in arguments in other animes. Because the only way to get past infinity is have an attack that can cut space or have infinite to irrelevant speed. Also sukuna is max country level with Mach 3 speed vs Goku who is low multi
getting sukuna to planetery is extremely highball imo, minato takes this way to easily yall didnt even mention that minato could seal sukunas cursed energy making him literally useless. minato wins this 10/10 an if ur gonna say jjk characters get to universal then the same can be said about naruto characters with naruto being able to fill most of kaguyas dimensions with his clones alone. aswell as kaguya destroying the whole thing which had some stars in the distance with her version of a bijuu bomb. minato at fullpower would scale over the sasuke an naruto who fought this kaguya because naruto is drained an sasuke would have never been a match for this minato.
IMO the scariest thing my guy sukuna can do that is more OP than Minato or any Naruto character... "i made a mf promise w myseilf & the universe..."= New Hax City... The heck you mean you nevef eating meat again & now his check mouth back & domain expansion was referested to before Gojo.
Minato has superior speed, that being said, Sukuna has fought a teleporting opponent before. And if you don't give Minato his Kurama half and sage mode, he has few attacks that can actually take down sukuna permanently. (unless contract seal can seperate him from his vessel which it just might) That being said while sukuna actually stands a chance at killing Minato (Minato without sage and kurama won't be able to sense cleave and dismantle) a Minato that knows about sukuna would probably bring countermeasures or a blade long enough to behead him along.
Not once has sukuna ever faught someone that's teleports like Minato Also every attacks from Minato would do threw sukuna simply because minstos AP is higher And world cutter wouldn't even touch him since he's a sensory ninja and fodder dodge it in his own verse
@chalbramwell5353 yeah he hasn't fought someone who teleport like Minato, he's fought someone who teleport better than Minato cause he doesn't need markers (which cleave would make useless by cutting the sealing matrix) And Minato cutting sukuna would be like kusakabe cutting sukuna, he can cut him but sukuna's healing is near instantaneous
@@wicked.a950 dude u can count on one hand how many times gojo teleported he teleported in a actual fight once (minato can literally teleport multiple times at once in combat) u claim cleave would cut it can u even prove that also can u even prove sukuna is fast enough to even cut it also whats the perpus of even cutting the mark now rct only works if your head and stomach takes 0 damage minato hitting sukuka is like puting your hand threw Play-Dough how tf is he healing if every attack from minato will one shotted him and its nowhere near instantaneous and using kusakabe as an argument is terrible expesially when hes to even city block lvl
The most glazed anime in history vs the most glazed anime of today (Ik it’s not the most in history just for effect and why did u scroll down? Pay me 12 bucks now)
It was a pleasure to cook with you 🫡🔥
W vid
Great video
@ thank you!
@@itsm9818 thanks bro!
Yall both cooked
"I can't even imagine Minato losing"
- Ichigo
Ichigo did NOT say that
Minato still wins tho low dif
@tbnelsonassociate what...
😭😭yooo im dying
@@tbnelsonassociate LMAO naruto fand. Bro asta blutzes all of naruto
Its chad reference guys he’s basically calling Minato a chad.
"Ah yes. My anti-teleporting technique I haven't used at all since the Heian Era." - Ryomen "The Jujutsu" Sukuna
@OurDarkGoldenHero Are you the nah id win because you're the strongest or are you the stand proud because you're the with this treasure I summon?
im you and unlcoking 120 % of my potential are you the one who left it all behind
always bet on hakari
just goes to show how badly written and full of asspulls sukuna really is
@@AK01445 He doesn't have that many asspulls, like the only one he does really is the WCS's binding vow
Minato speed blitzes the king of frauds in millisecond and goes back to clapping Kushina's cheeks.
???
He can heal himself 😭🤦🏽♂️
@@ahmadjeffery1that healing isn’t getting him far bud
@@ahmadjeffery1to a certain degree the dude can’t regenerate from a single cell, Minato is disintegrating that fraud in no time without any effort, JJK verse is light work, case closed.
@@ahmadjeffery1 that hardly matters with how hard Minato can hit him
30 mins vid for minato to absolutely clap and one shot
Clapped like Kushina's cheeks
coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
More like hydrogen Bomb vs themorbaric explosions
@@JustanotherArtist. 500 Tons of TNT vs 5-100 megatons of TNT is Wild lol.
@@JustanotherArtist. hand grenade vs TSAR bomba
@@kaizel2264 LITERALLY😭 BRO'S BEST (destructive, Since the strongest is world cutting Slash) MOVE IS A NUKE AND MINATO BE FIGHTING THERE WITH CONTINENTAL-PLANETARY THREATS
@@fidelisitor8953 more like small nuclear bomb vs THREE TSAR BOMBS TOGETHER
Better question
Could Sukuna take down Zabuza?
🤔🤔 That’s a good question, now I wanna know 🤣
Easily ngl dura neg is tooo much for zabuza hes getting evaporated
@@philemonkwakye5031
Idk man zabuza can keep up with kakashi and hurt him
Yes
No
Minato: Do a little dance before you get a whoopin
Sukuna: 🕺🏿👯♂️
I know we're all sad about JJK ending but you don't gotta put Sukuna up against the thunder god like that bro. He alr got cooked in his own series and now you doing him like this is crazy work
he got a get 1 get beat by one special at waffle house lol
people love to do it for gojo by putting him up against people he has no chance against. only fair that it happens to sukuna too. especially when there's people who consider him to be the absolute "strongest".
@@Reseptics gojo at least has better chances then sukuna. Infinity to make him untouchable for those without the hax or speed and unlimited void to bypass durability.
"Konoha has genin huh? I better keep my ass in Shinjuku or I'm finished!" - Sukuna, probably.
Who thought this was a debate
JJK Delulu fans
Jjk glazers
sukuna meat devourer
Uraume
Sukuna may have a change of heart after getting cooked so bad😭
Bro I hate these unfair match ups, it's not fun when it's just "he gets speed blitzed and one shot"
Plus you gotta deal with rage baitters and the annoying fans that only watch there characters anime and they dride there characters nonsense arguments this why I stopped watching powerscaling vids now cause it’s lame 💀💀
Genins are top tier in JJK and a competent Jounin solo
That’s a lie, the jjk verse is not that weak, minato still solos though and most of the Naruto verse does too.
@@TheGoatedAerJJK hax are cool I guess but that’s about it their overall stats are just lackluster JJK verse is just weak in the grand scheme of fiction.
Fodder Choji is legit no selling town attacks that up scale from Ryu and fan girl has been reacting to sound at hypersonic speed, lol.
Fp power sukuna vs pain is debatable or gojo vs the akatsuki
@hhhh-qm2ud It certainly fucking isn't 💀
The one problem with JJK being one of animes with the somewhat grounded verses is that they get cooked in a lot of out of versus matches leading to a Homelander kind of situation.
Ngl destroying the world and being able to EASILY turn the world to ash is actually kind of a massive difference
Ppl don’t understand how massive a gap that would be in power scaling.
you actually think kurama can just blow up the planet?
its high end power scaling best kuruma scaes to low multi continental
@@omarfarah-q6e if daagon's domain make him island lvl, gojo's domain makes him universal.
And since time doesn't flow in the prison realm, it makes IN FACT gojo immesurable speed.
Goku is immesurable speed bc he moved even when hit's time skip was activated.
So I can't see why gojo can't claim this feat
jjk wasnt even in this reply section plus you highballing the hell out of jjk i love it just as much as the next guy but going around spreading misinformation is just stupid
We all know the real reason this vid was made was to glaze Minagoat
I'm so proud of y'all in these comments 🙏🏿😅. Thanks for giving Minato his praise. I remember yrs ago after the manga ended Folks were slandering Minato. Glad to see that era has passed & his respect has returned💯
Sukuna isnt even getting past the konoha gates💀
In the jjk gacha game
Teen gojo (who didn't get his awakening yet) had destroyed a mountain.
Gege and one of his editors were involved in the game.
I know minato wins but I just wanted to point this feat out
With what? Blue? That's insane since even during Gojo vs sukuna fight he didn't do something like that
How is that canon😭
@@marcierex4547gege is involved and supervised that game.
@@uchiwamadara4614it's a dc feat.
in Minato's one shot manga thats canon a poison, impaled, tired, and chakra exhausted Minato in Kushina's mind (where hes weaker since hes a mental projection) clashes his just learned and named rasengan with a full powered Kuruma held by Kushina's chains. A 50% Kurama can already blow up mountains. That Teen Gojo game feats pales in comparison to Teen Minato lol
So... You're making Sukuna face one of the OG of the technique of cleave and dismantle and the malevolent shrine?
Sukuna is NOT planetary
I would love to see a Gamblrr and Thundergod collab in the future 🙏🙏
Gassing Sukuna like no tomorrow just to get embarrassed by the yellow goat 😂, fire video
“Ah yes, my anti flying raijin technique. I havent used this since the Heian era”
The thumbnail is so cool !! How do you find them,or how do you make them?
you can see why this took so long…..
Anime battles really fell off after they started putting light speed for no reason
What type of question is this? Minato slams neg diff😭
The thumbnail art is crazy🔥
24:51 Love the video! but want to point out a flaw in this logic. It is possible the time it takes flying thunder God to move something is affected by the amount chakra it's moving And That that time can be mitigated by using more chocolate. KCM Minato flying thunder God is faster because of the KCM
Sukuna is getting ABSOLUTELY COOKED
Great video, you've earned a sub
My two goats cooking me a Thanksgiving meal early tonight 😋
Edit: OMFG, THANK YOU! Kashimo's lightning was aiming for Hakari's face because that was literally the only place Kashimo attacked. The cope and unwarranted skepticism around that scene is unbelievable.
And Mach 3 is an outlier. If Maki really got blitzed by that level of speed she'd have around peak human reaction speeds. Which is is worse than Megumi.
Gege came back on the Mach 3 statement anyway. That shit was ridiculous when you see Hakari reacting and dodging literal lightning
@mattb.7079 Bro, i could mathematically debunk the Mach 3 statement. Shit is ass 😭
1 second in and it’s peak.
There are some things I would like to give to you to use in future JJK scaling video whether it's in a cross-verse battle or not.
1. There is a higher end scaling for Sukuna's combat speed through Gojo's teleportation. Base off the original japanese text from JJK which is (瞬間移動/Shunkan Utsuri dō) it translates to "instantaneous teleportation" (according to Google translate), and Gojo is able to use it in close quarter combat in chapter 231 and keep in mind that Gojo would have to physically and mentally be able to process what's going on when he is moving at those speeds in quick succession in close quarter combat, and the fact that Sukuna was still able to keep up with him saids a lot about his speed.
This is even supported in chapter 15 and episode 7 of season 1 when Gojo deflated a sure-hit attack from Jogo's domain, granted it was just a similar attack that was coming from one direction and not it being multiple attacks coming at Gojo omnidirectional but the fact Gojo can respond to and counter it like that does support him having instantaneous combat speeds.
2. There are three ways to scale Sukuna's strength and power.
(Low-end scaling)
In chapter 221 after Gojo was unsealed from the prison realm he finds himself 8,000 meters underwater in the "Japanese Trench" in the "Subduction Zone" which is important since that is where tectonic plates dive back into the mantle of the earth, and he would have been getting crushed by two tectonic plates diving back into the mantle thus he would have had to physically push the plates apart in order to leave and met up with Kenjaku and by doing this he created an earthquake that reached all the way to the "Saitama Prefecture" and the calculations for this feat from "VS BATTLE WIKI" puts it around 4.204942e+19 to 2.364613e+20 joules or island levels of power.
In Goji-Chronic's "Ryomen Sukuna vs Nicole Watterson" video had a calc that brought Gojo's earthquake to around 1.61453537E+23 joules or 38.588 teratons of TNT (country level) which is backed up by other calcs in the video for other characters.....
Sukuna clearing the sky in his fight with Makora: 3.601E+18 joules or 860.646 megatons of TNT (mountain level+) to 617156124E+20 joules or 147.503854 gigatons of TNT (large island level).
Hana using Jacob's ladder (with both arms) on Sukuna: 4.33142375E+22 joules or 35 teratons of TNT (country level)
Uraume effortlessly created a storm in chapter 236 and 237: 5.4 teratons of TNT (small country level+)
(Mid-end scaling).
The durability/toughness/HP of JJK characters scales higher than their AP which is proven through "Black Flash" which in chapter 48 stated that impact of it is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5 which is insane.
Example 1: Geto took a black flash from Yuta to the face and not only survived but was still able to keep on fighting. In JJK 0 it was stated that Rika could have destroyed a whole town (I personally think this downplays their power since Rika scales above the Disaster Curses but for the sake of argument I'll roll with it) but they never said how big the town was so I will scale this by starting from the low to mid to high end scaling.
(Numbers of joules come from VS BATTLE WIKI)
Small town level
4.184×10^12 to 2.42672×10^13 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^31 to 2.901×10^33 joules: small planet to planet level.
Town level
2.42672×10^13 to 4.184×10^14 joules ^2.5 = 2.901×10^33 to 3.58079×10^36 joules: planet to large planet level.
Large town level
4.184×10^14 to 4.184×10^15 joules ^2.5 = 3.58079×10^36 to 1.132×10^39 joules: large planet to darf star level.
Keep in mind that Kenjaku who had possession of Geto's body was going to be killed by Gojo in one punch and Sukuna effortlessly blocked it, this tells us that Gojo and Sukuna's AP and durability/ HP scale extremely higher than the other JJK characters.
Further evidence that supports this is the fact that Tengen was powerful enough to suppress half of Yuki's black hole which has been calculated to be around large planet to dwarf star level, and Kenjaku stated that the earth would've been destroyed if not for both Tengen's barrier and Yuki's will suppressing it which means that if Tengen didn't help in suppressing it the earth would have still been destroyed, and before people say that it was hax and it doesn't scale to her keep in mind that not long after Tengen helped suppress half of Yuki's black hole she is shown in a heavily weakened state from suppressing it thus her barrier's strength scale to her physical body as well. And both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than Tengen is, thus they would not only scale to Tengen's feat but above it as well.
Example 2: Hanami is comparable in strength to Jogo whose "Maximum: Meteor" was stated it can turn a town and its surroundings to ashes and dust (according to the "official JJK fan book"). According to "VS BATTLE WIKI" the AP of the Meteor would be around 8.3086954e+23 joules or around large country levels of power. Yuji was able to keep up with her in their fight so he too would scale to it, thus Yuji's Black Flashes would be around multi-solar system levels of AP and Hanami took five of them and was still able to keep on fighting after that. We all know Gojo would have been able to effortlessly one shot her without having to give it his all.
(High-end scaling)
In chapter 234 Gojo used "Maximum Output: Blue" to destroy "Chimera Beast: Agito" who earlier in the chapter survived a Black Flash from Gojo, and while the Black Flash did tore a hole in its gut the shikigami was able to effortlessly heal from it where with the MO: Blue it wasn't able to do so. This tells us that both Gojo and Sukuna's maximum techniques are not only able to match but surpass the output of a Black Flash, further evidence supports this with Gojo's "Unlimited Hollow Purple" being able to obliterate Makora who was able to take two Black Flashes from Gojo and didn't sustain anywhere near the same level of damage that Agito did from just one Black Flash from Gojo. Thus by adding this to the scaling above you would get both Gojo and Sukuna's AP to around "solar system levels" to "multi-galaxy levels" to "universal levels' of power.
Chapter 219 supports this with a character named Yorozu who was able to create a "True Sphere" with her "Curse Technique: Construction" which is creating infinite pressure, and before people say that it is hax that doesn't scale to her directly chapter 42 and episode 17 of season 1 states that "Curse Technique: Construction" can put strain on the body of the caster as shown when their nose is bleeding and the fact that Yorozu could still be able to use "Domain Expansion" after creating the True Sphere shows just how powerful she is and both Gojo and Sukuna are way more powerful than her.
I'll leave it up to you to decide which one is most likely true.
Seeing some these comments you wouldn’t think Naruto is a world where kunai kill high level jonin 😂
Seeing the match up you wouldn’t think JJK is a world where mach 3 is faster than 99% of the verse 😂
Kunai used by superhumans
a lot of people seem to forget they are kunai used by superhumans
Weapons in naruto scale to their user, this was explained before multiple times, but you can always trust mor*ns like you to lack reading comprehension
Weapons in naruto scale to their user. This was already stated in the manga, I don't know where the confusion comes from
@@alvo6375 Some criticizers of Naruto
don't watch/read Naruto
Can you please do a video of minato vs kaido bro 😂 I had a insane argument and I just want your perspective
Unless it's KCM Edo Minato. He loses to Kaido. He has a very fast reaction speed, and will catch alive Minato off guard. Just one hit is enough. And there's nothing alive Minato's arsenal to hurt Kaido.
7:45 what do you mean we didn't even see it he got his original form back
0:12 I am not actually sure Kushina was pregnant only after the war or not. It was definitely not nine months later, though, as the pregnancy of a host lasts ten months, which is a fairly obvious detail that was missed... Not certain he was given the Uzumaki name until after Minato died, either.
6:09 That is not how Sage Mode works. It is the balancing of chakra, not an expenditure, which then activates the body and bolsters all taijutsu and ninjutsu, and also bolsters reaction/sensory abilities. Not having enough chakra would prevent someone from entering Sage Mode at all, and Sage Mode is implied to boost the user tens/dozens of times over their previous state, so that he was able to enter it at all probably would indicate he is above base.
The speed scaling is conflating Minato's Body Flicker with combat speed, which is fine, but using it in conjunction with other characters not using Body Flicker is a bit off, as
22:00 It appears Hachibi's tails are weaker than the rest of his body as even a near-collapse Taka Sasuke was able to cut one off.
23:00 The Hiraishin is a variant of the Summoning Jutsu, which is only ever described as actually bringing one from one point to another. Altering the speed does not change this, but changing the destination would, and I doubt it can be altered to such a degree. He probably would have tried it on Obito if that were possible. It is also possible the length of time was instead due to a combination of size and distance, countered by the amount of chakra put into it, so Tobirama's clones and Kurama Mode would be faster despite possessing more chakra.
Yuta VS Toji vid when my goat????
Thumbnail is indeed fire, it’s the reason I clicked lol
please do gojo vs luffy next!!
@Gamblrr also just want to say i believe it was said that if the brain is injured or destroyed reverse curse technique would not work
as positive curse energy comes from the brain and negative from the stomach both are needed to perform it. So if Sukuna really did
cut off his head with that cleave the entire connection from his brain to the rest of his body would have been severed which would have
stopped him being able to use reverse curse technique. Which is also why gojo died from being cut in half since his stomach was also severed.
I really don't think that the Mach 3 scene is a blitz because we literally see Maki standing till to try and catch Naoya but the sheer momentum and force of the hit was what destroyed her
These jjk bums just aren’t that strong.
good video gang
I aint even gone lie i have not watched the video yet but im a huge jjk fan and already know this man sukuna gets cooked by pure scaling.
I wish we discussed more about these characters battling IQ. Both are incredibly intelligent in combat, in my opinion. Sukuna is a monster with it.
@Gamblrr Only problem i can see in the beggining is putting Kurama over Hashirama or his wood style
since his strongest wood style over powered kurama wearing that perfect susano drip and put him to sleep.
So i'd say Hashirama clearly scales above regular kurama.
12:55 this been debunked
1. moving in a timeless space doesnt grant you innacessible speed - especially in gojos case. Kenjaku literally says that any victim of the prison realm can choose to illk themselves which would grant random fodder inaccessible speed then too
2. gojo has spatial manip and didnt achieve the feat due to raw speed
Why is moving in an area with no time not inaccessible speed?( not referring to gojo but still )
@@CluelessMonkeyKing because it anime logic
jus becuase time doesn't flow doesn't always mean the person should be frozen in time
JoJo Bizzare Adventure have a handful of characters who can move within stopped time or spaces ignorant of time and yet only one character as infinite-inaccessible speed
@@Y.T.STachiSo if a person moves in stopped time based on speed alone, wouldn’t that be inaccessible speed?
@@CluelessMonkeyKing it would have to be speed based alone and not hax based like in Gojo and the prior mention examples in Jojo
@@CluelessMonkeyKingCause it implies anybody can move in the prison realm via someone committing suicide, so it just wouldn’t make sense narratively if someone moving in the time realm is inaccessible.
YEAHHHH
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@kirbyof590starsI’m with you, these guys are cheering on a massacre 😭😭😭what’s wrong with yall !?!??can’t that fraudkuna just rest ?
"Universal Sukuna in the building, Heian Sukuna in the building. Sssssstrong Cleave."
What the hell was that universal scaling
You're for real for real cuckoo
Does simple domain and domain amplification give you a physical stat boost?
This guy did not just say Sukuna is planetary level. Bloody hell he on some shit
Doesn’t matter, goku,saitama, and Superman solos Naruto.
Lmfaoo minato one shots and sukuna is nowhere near planetary 😭😭
2:33 lmao kcm naruto never used body flicker, he move as fast as minato using flying raijin
the thing is it's too bad for sukuna because planetary minato isn't even a highball 😭😭🙏🏽🙏🏽
5:55 not that i exactly disagree but to say that an edo tensei is fatigued, that is a clear bias or intentional miss information.
It’s not edo tensei can run out of chakra they’ll refill it, but it’s still a certain pool they have.
Best 28 minutes my ears been blessed with oml minato is the goat😭
That kurama scan only applies to half of kurama so minato would be two times that. Moving in the prison realm would mean the dead bodies are also at that speed so wouldn’t that be an outlier ?
Successful weekend with kushina is crazy 🤣
Raise the jjk scaling and give us some bleach vs jjk content
Bro high balled sakuna just to still let him lose, because nope sakuna is No where near planetary that’s nonsense
6:50 so wouldn’t that mean war arc Kakashi is blitz tiers above Naruto according to that logic?
Unless you put sukuna against featless characters he’s massively out classed by a lot of the Naruto verse haku and zabuza would literally be the hardest fight of sukuna’s life the both heavily out speed him and can one shot him with physical attacks alone
6:31 but isn’t that miss translated as not being light speed?
I feel this is a Minato Glaze video, he was not that fast! 😭
The only response I can think of is “ehh 🤷🏾♂️”
This is going to be fun, not so much for sukuna but fun nonetheless.
restless you forgot to mention he can regen the shape of his soul
Realistically a random ambu is handling him
Sukuna getting his ass beat after 5 seconds
6:34 you said it stated to be light speed while it says ALMOST the speed of light aka relative you literally put a scan up there you can’t read?
How Minato will dodge the invisible slashes from dismantle ? He won't even notice that he has been cut 😂
Do shigaraki vs sukuna please or yuta vs chrollo
couldnt sukuna just charge into the center and do a domain expansion
This is before I watched the full video I have faith in bro he’s not gonna low ball sukuna and this is gonna he peak
6:19 but the Minato that was helping guy did not have much time to recover though and lost an arm. Not to mention you use that Minato as though he is at full power as evidence to being on par with Kakashi so what gives? Kinda fishy
Some genin in naruto have a chance at soloing the jjk verse except Gojo because of infinity. Such as kid sasuke (no curse mark), rock lee, gaara, naruto, and shino. (There could be more but I don’t think there is)
Minato solos
Edo Tensei don't get tired so saying he was exhausted wouldn't be true. Kurama being "planetary" is also misinterpreted. Saying he can "turn the world to ash" is vague and really just means he can destroy everything on the planet, not the actual planet itself. Same with sakuna if you really want to get him to that level. The unreal scaling is also just that, unreal, because it's incredibly overscaling sukuna with little evidence to back it up.
"Edo Tensei don't get tired so saying he was exhausted wouldn't be true."
They can actually Minato even says at one point he doesn't have the chakra to use FTG.
"Kurama being "planetary" is also misinterpreted. Saying he can "turn the world to ash" is vague and really just means he can destroy everything on the planet, not the actual planet itself."
Kurama doesn't just have that statement however his Biju bomb is stated to have "Earth Shattering Destructive Power"
His biju bomb once again is stated to be planetary in Saikyou Jump magazine "It's a deadly Ninjutsu caused by an enormous tailed beast!! it's power can even blow up the earth"
So Kurama being planetary is heavily consistent.
@@SRVaris That has nothing to do with being tired, not once do we see an edo tensei summon get tired. Kurama has no actual planetary feats, only showings of being able to destroy large land masses. "Turning the world to ash" is too vague to say it's planetary.
@@Auron1Roxas2 "That has nothing to do with being tired."
Chakra = Stamina and here is a direct quote "Sorry, No! My Chakra's Been Drained By That Last Flying Raijin"
"Kurama has no actual planetary feats"
Feats are irrelevant in the face of WOG statements.
"Turning the world to ash" is too vague to say it's planetary."
But its not just "Turn the world to ash."
Its "Earth Shattering Destructive Power" and "It's a deadly Ninjutsu caused by an enormous tailed beast!! it's power can even blow up the earth" as well which aren't vague at all its made VERY clear Kurama can destroy a planet so yes he is planetary objectively speaking.
Sukuna:AH YES ..a worthy OPPON-Why is there a hole in my chest
Does anyone know the song that plays at 0:40 and outro? ive been looking everywhere for it 😭
Penthouse shordy by Dom Corleo
Do kidd buu vs minato pls
Chocolate treatment
Kid buu negs
It’s weird how Sukuna is stronger than Gojo but is weaker than him against other animes.
It’s because he is not, gojo is more powerful and has better hax. They’re relative in power but gojo is definitely above him. And yes he did lose to sukuna but remember that battles in jjk are often won not by power but by preparation and surprise factor (Sukuna was better prepared with full knowledge of Gojo’s kit and he had his cards well hidden so Gojo was improvising all the fight while Sukuna always had a plan ahead)
Simple he doesn’t have infinity. Infinity is what carries Gojo in arguments in other animes. Because the only way to get past infinity is have an attack that can cut space or have infinite to irrelevant speed. Also sukuna is max country level with Mach 3 speed vs Goku who is low multi
So we have to give sukuna super headcanon feats for them to just be even and even then he still can’t beat him 😂
Sukuna looses to blood lusted child Naruto during the land of waves if he went to the kill. Or Naruto in the final valley part 1.
Honestly this video should be like 5 to 8 minutes because it's just that obvious.
Full power sukuna vs pain is more debatable
W vid
getting sukuna to planetery is extremely highball imo, minato takes this way to easily yall didnt even mention that minato could seal sukunas cursed energy making him literally useless. minato wins this 10/10 an if ur gonna say jjk characters get to universal then the same can be said about naruto characters with naruto being able to fill most of kaguyas dimensions with his clones alone. aswell as kaguya destroying the whole thing which had some stars in the distance with her version of a bijuu bomb. minato at fullpower would scale over the sasuke an naruto who fought this kaguya because naruto is drained an sasuke would have never been a match for this minato.
IMO the scariest thing my guy sukuna can do that is more OP than Minato or any Naruto character... "i made a mf promise w myseilf & the universe..."= New Hax City... The heck you mean you nevef eating meat again & now his check mouth back & domain expansion was referested to before Gojo.
Minato has superior speed, that being said, Sukuna has fought a teleporting opponent before.
And if you don't give Minato his Kurama half and sage mode, he has few attacks that can actually take down sukuna permanently.
(unless contract seal can seperate him from his vessel which it just might)
That being said while sukuna actually stands a chance at killing Minato (Minato without sage and kurama won't be able to sense cleave and dismantle) a Minato that knows about sukuna would probably bring countermeasures or a blade long enough to behead him along.
Not once has sukuna ever faught someone that's teleports like Minato
Also every attacks from Minato would do threw sukuna simply because minstos AP is higher
And world cutter wouldn't even touch him since he's a sensory ninja and fodder dodge it in his own verse
@chalbramwell5353 yeah he hasn't fought someone who teleport like Minato, he's fought someone who teleport better than Minato cause he doesn't need markers (which cleave would make useless by cutting the sealing matrix)
And Minato cutting sukuna would be like kusakabe cutting sukuna, he can cut him but sukuna's healing is near instantaneous
@@wicked.a950
dude u can count on one hand how many times gojo teleported
he teleported in a actual fight once
(minato can literally teleport multiple times at once in combat)
u claim cleave would cut it can u even prove that also can u even prove sukuna is fast enough to even cut it also whats the perpus of even cutting the mark
now rct only works if your head and stomach takes 0 damage minato hitting sukuka is like puting your hand threw Play-Dough how tf is he healing if every attack from minato will one shotted him and its nowhere near instantaneous
and using kusakabe as an argument is terrible expesially when hes to even city block lvl
You realize he couldn’t keep up with that teleporting opponent right?
Minato will touch sukuna inappropriatly 9 times before he can even react
Minato blizt and one tap with a rasengan
The most glazed anime in history vs the most glazed anime of today
(Ik it’s not the most in history just for effect and why did u scroll down? Pay me 12 bucks now)
I thought both Sukuna and Gojo RCT was even?
Is sukuna beating any of the tailed beasts?
No, he's a p1 kakashi victim
Na