Old Mine Site and Spanish Mines - Uinta Mountains, Utah
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2022
- The mine site at the end of the video is truly amazing and very undisturbed. Many relics lay scattered here and there. I plan on spending more time at the site in the future, who knows, I might find another mine!!! I found one old Spaniard trail marker on an old pine tree not to far from the site, but I have a feeling if I explore around some more I might find others. The original mine must have been deep, the mine dump is massive and very old. Mature pine trees are now growing from the mine dump.
The music at the first of the video is Misty Mountains from the Hobbit. The end song is a traditional Viking Song.
If you love local, as well as Utah history, I recommend you visit Dale Bascoms website. His website has a wealth of information and is a great place to begin your adventure.
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Really cool video. Not sure how familiar you are with the Pole Creek area of the Uintahs, but I found an old mine adit on Pole Creek back in the late 90's. The mine was chipped into a rock face right where Pole Creek disappears into the ground (Pole Creek sink). Hiking upstream from the mine adit I also found an old aspen tree with the name "Gale Rhoades" etched into it. I used to have pictures but 27 years and 5 moves have led to their misplacement.
Poking around the mine tailings just outside of the mine entrance reveals that whatever vein they were working contained quartz and copper mineralization. I actually ventured inside of the mine for about 40-50 feet before the workings became flooded and impassible.
The music is this video kicks ass!
Rockgremlin, thanks regarding the video and glad you enjoyed it and the music.
The mine at the Pole Creek sink you are talking about was claimed by a man named Gale Rhoades. He had some partners/investors, but I can't remember there names. They believed there was an old Spanish Mine (one of the old Rhoades Mines) located at the site and they were trying to connect into it.
There was an unfortunate accident and dynamite was prematurely ignited killing one of the miners. They quit mining after that. This all occurred when I was a kid. My brother and his friend found a nice size gold nugget in the sink. You can access it from the other side of the mountain during drought years.
Last time I was at the site about two years ago, the Forrest Service had placed a metal gate on the entrance of the mine. Now you can't go inside of it. This was really stupid, it didn't go very far and was very stable. It was a good place to let kids (safely) play around in a cave/mine and etc. It was the probably the first mine I ever went into when I was around 10 years old or so. We used to go there, check out the mine and pick razzberries that grown in front of it next to the creek.
Hey man, I just wanted to also chime in and add that you do quality work and I thank you for that. I live up in Jackson and just love this area.
Thanks Orrin and appreciate the compliment. Jackson is beautiful, God's country!!
I must say excellent video Sir! And your music selection is BOSS!!!
Thank you kindly!
Hi from Australia
I love what u are doing
Do u believe there are still lots of Spanish mines ,still to find
Or most have be lost to the floods
@@joecolvin3617 I believe there are still some waiting to be discovered. Unfortunately, most are collapsed and/or covered over from natural erosion. Still lot's of fun searching and exploring around. You never know what you'll find.
Absolutely Awesome! I love it! Thank you
You are most welcome and thank you for the wonderful comment.
Excellent!
Your vids are wonderfull, the history is very captivating Cheers Aussie in Candaa
That was really really neat. I enjoyed watching thank you.
Your welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
All the mormans have prosperd from the Spanish
One of the absolute best videos I have seen in the Unitas. Ty so much and send more plz.
Thank you.
Excellent video, thanks
Glad you liked it!
Bought this album Pawl D Beats, thanks for listing the music. Enjoying your videos found your channel today 🇺🇸🇦🇺👍 gold rides an iron horse..ok I need to go back to a gold field.
Eric, hope you enjoy your new tunes. LOL. If you ever hear any music and not sure of the origin, let me know and I'll will do my best to tell you the artist.
The music I use in these videos come from unknown artist on UA-cam, many of these folks make unbelievably beautiful music and deserve much more credit and hits then they receive.
Very Interesting ....
Thanks Darrell.
At 14.10 you have some wagon parts but I don't see any tire hoops, probly gone years ago. Seems to me from what I'v seen in you'r videos so far that theirs a lot of gossan or Iron cap shown which means ancient mineral hot springs in a volcanic region. The gold was in solution in iron sulfide water and precipitated out when the pressure dropped and/or cooled at the surface. A lot of miners would beat the gossan up in a mortar and the free gold would be washed out.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this info and appreciate the insight.
Fantastic video.
Thanks Dale.
@@LowBudgetExploration Thank you
I go bushwhacking in the high Uintas mainly for bigfoot research, but I do occasionally come across man made stuff I know nothing about. Enjoyed your video! Makes me antsy to get back up there, but too much snow to even snowshoe this year
Thanks Mark. I would love to hear about your Bigfoot research. When you get a chance, send me an email. Thanks.
Thank You....
My pleasure sir.
You have incredible knowledge Basinite. My dad watches tons of your videos and got me into them. Would love to chat sometime! Stay safe brother and keep up the good work
Many thanks my friend and appreciate the compliment. Please pass on my thanks to your dad as well!
It would be interesting to know if you found an area where there were other, more spartan in composition, 'enclosures'.
Maybe an old work shop that looked like it had been used to hold the rumored, Native People they took as slaves; a common practice of the Spaniards in the Early 1700's when they sought gold, and established gold mines. If they could kidnap workers, and slave them to death, they would. The royal geologist would order up a batch of Conquistadors after determining how big it would be, and if it was rich enough, they would know how much dirtwork had to be done, etc..
Then they would know how many workers they would need.
Anyway, this is very interesting!
And your vid is well made, and easy to watch.
Thx!
David, I haven't found anything that intricate in the Uinta Mountains. Mostly just their old mines, smelters, rock monuments/symbols and one Arrastra. I have found the remains of very old cabins, but they could have been from early day trappers/prospectors.
Thank you for the comment and glad you like the video.
If someone watches your video it should be an automatic like. I have to constantly remind myself to hit the like button.
Thanks Davey. The likes really help out with the algorithm. I used to never pay attention to that sort of stuff, until I started making vids. Now I make sure and hit the button like you on videos I enjoy. Really helps out the creator of the video. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing this footage and your interesting explanations of what we see. Marvellous mountains, full of life. At least the Americans themselves worked the mines. Your findings show that the Spaniards got into very remote corners, which seems to be generally underappreciated. The dark site of the Spanish exploration was, of course, that they didn't want to do the work themselves, but that the mountains were also full of native people, that were hunted to do the work in the mines. Also this is an aspect, that is left out of history pretty much. Usually the Spanish mission system is mentioned, which was a system built upon slavery for the females and young children, while the men that were caught, and not murdered, had to slave their live away into the Spanish mines. It was not "pretty".
It must have surely been exciting to find the mine that possibly connected with your relatives. That goes deep! Thanks, also, for sharing that personal story.
Thanks for the comment and sharing your insight. I wish I could go back in time and question my Great Uncle (he was still alive when I was a kid but very old).
I don't know if you have ever saw that reality show, "blind frog ranch". My great uncle was one of the original homesteaders of that area (I think to include the land blind frog sets on, but I'm not sure due to there being a few other ranches in the area at the time and the property lines have since been so subdivided it's hard to tell). He herded cattle all over Mosby Mountain. Thanks again and appreciate your comment.
Looks like all the wood from the old sluice floated UPSTREAM. The water in your video is flowing in the opposite direction the pile of wood ended up in... Still a cool video though! There are hundreds, if not thousands of old abandoned mines throughout Utah. I love it when I accidentally find one.
The wood flows downstream. After where the sluice box would have been located, the stream starts to descend more rapidly down the hill. This is where a lot of the wood from the box was deposited.
You can see it at 22:22 in the video. Hope this helps and glad you enjoyed the video.
The symbol you say is two Spanish mines next to each other is a symbol carved by Shirl Atwood all over the Uinta's.
I know, I did a video on him you might enjoy. Its called, "Mines you can find and the origins of the mysterious catface symbol".
I love all your videos. Thanks for posting them.@@LowBudgetExploration
I found this site a couple of years ago and metal detected it but I thought it was an old sawmill. This is a cool video
About 100 yards south of the site, you will find two old pine trees the Spaniards had placed blazes on to mark the old trail coming up from the canyon. Nothing fancy, just a couple of blazes. The trail is overgrown now and hard to follow.
Back in the 70's a guy from Salt Lake who liked to hike went from the Lake above to the canyon below following the (unnamed creek to protect the site). This guy knew nothing about Spanish Lore, he was just a guy who loved the outdoors and hiking.
During his journey, he discovered a strange rock structure and didn't know what it was or why it would be out in the middle of nowhere. He described the structure to my uncle and what he described was an ancient Arrastra.
I've messed around a little bit trying to find it, but haven't had any luck. If you find it please let me know. I care nothing for the treasure, it's yours. I just want to film and document it before it is lost forever.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
@@LowBudgetExploration good to know I have metal detected all the way down that creek ( I don’t think I’ll do that again) but I heard another story that someone else found something down there. I’ll email you and tell you the whole story. Beautiful canyon but not very fun to hike
Looking forward to it. My email is in the description down below.
you could burn some of the old planking of the sluice box on top of the wheelbarrow and pan out the ashes and collect the gold dust that got embedded in the wood over time being used for the sluice box...
True, but I could never bring myself to do that. I love the history and remains, more than the gold. It would break my heart to see everything burned for a few specks of gold.
Another fantastic video. Thank you for sharing your adventures. I’ve found Timbers in a creek in northern New Mexico that I’ve explored extensively. There’s also an old cart there that measures roughly 2’x4’.
That is cool. The cart alone is an awesome discovery!
@@LowBudgetExploration I believe that they may have been doing hydraulic mining there.
Very C@@L... Thanks 👍👍😁😎
Thank you sir!
Where is the basin you call home? We call ourselves basinites, basin Montana. I know where basin drive-in theater is by mount pleasant Utah.
The Uintah Basin is in Northeastern Utah and covers a large area spanning from Duchesne to Vernal Utah. It's basically a large bowl.
Some people believe it is the result of an ancient meteor strike. At one point, it was a large inland lake called Lake Uinta. Beautiful area, beautiful people.
All worked out. Nothing left. Any of those could have been the mines that rhoades worked.
Could be, but I still chase them for the same reason a country dog chases a truck he has no hope of ever catching.
Not at hoyt peak signs every where
I haven't messed around very much at Hoyt's Peak. I watch videos sometimes with the older gentleman who has the claims up there. I do believe there are some mines in the area and I hope he is successful with his endeavor.
If these were gold mines back then, why would mines like this not be worth trying to get gold again as much as gold is worth nowadays ?
Most of these old mines like this are probably played out and the easy high grade ore is gone. I do find old mines from time to time, that make me wonder if good gold is still to be found in them. Silver is basically worthless to mine, not enough money unless you have lots of virgin silver just waiting to be cut out.
The problem is these old mines are what my friend calls, "Leverite". Pronounced "Leave-ur-ite". Meaning you leave it where you found it. The reason is because of all the red tape with the Federal Government you would have to go through to open it back up. Environmental permits, approved plans of operation and etc. You could easily be in it over one million dollars, just to find the old mine has been stripped of gold. Not worth the risk.
I just love the history and discovery of it all. I have found small bits of gold from time to time, but I don't get to excited about it. I just like to kick back and try to imagine what these old timers where up to. That is the treasure for me.
@LowBudgetExploration Thanks for your reply. Just have to ask if you ever detect in those areas or do any in those beautiful hills and mountains. I live in Kentucky and try to do old homesteads. Never really found anything of monetary value but find other interesting lost stuff.
@@paulroberts3311 Kentucky is beautiful, as is all of Appalachia. I used to live in Mercer County West Virginia for a time. Great people.
I don't own a metal detector, which is probably foolish. I hike many miles at a time and don't want to be slowed down. People watch my videos and try to figure out locations, so I have to be careful with my wording. There is a "feature" not far from where this video was filmed and my friends uncle did find many Spanish artifacts using his metal detector. There also used to be an old Canon, but somebody removed it from the mountain I think back in the 1960's.
I have found numerous old Spanish mines and one cache site in this particular area. I now have a really good idea what they were up to and how their operation worked.
@LowBudgetExploration I have enjoyed your Spanish mine vids and others. I am 65 now and love to learn the history of the early pioneers and prospectors. I want to one day go out west to take in all I can. Thanks
I don't think those were Spanish markings on the tree. Aspens don't live that long. Maybe mexican? Great video otherwise.
Thank you for the comments about the video and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
There is so much controversy regarding Aspen tree carvings and has been since I was a kid. I think you are on the right track with being Mexican. One theory is the Mexicans upon finding old maps and documents in the archives in Mexico City and other places, sought out these old mines and caches in the late 1800's and early 1900's. They found old markings on dead/dying trees left by the Spaniards and copied them on young living trees in the same area. Keep in mind, during that time period, these areas were still part of the Indian Reservation and not National Forest Lands.
There might be some truth to this theory, since many of these Aspen markings will lead you to different sites of interest. For example, the marking you see on that Aspen tree next to the mine in the video, if followed correctly does lead to a very old Spanish mine site up another canyon.
@@LowBudgetExploration very interesting!!! I love exploring old mines, but the ones down here are nowhere near that old.
That’s exactly precisely what that did. Also, I’ve seen Aspens live a lot longer that what has been said they live. We have one on family property that’s been in our family for 5 generations. Still going strong as it was 120 years ago. I have 50-60 pictures to prove it. It’s been cared for tho. Maybe that has a lot to do with it. Not trying to dispute anyone’s knowledge, just a known fact about this one tree.
What about the lost josephine mine? LMFAO. People act like there are lost mines that were never worked out. Which is bullshit.
Well this video is pretty much proof that old mines still can produce! Looks like some pretty darn dam good ore still on top of ground. Imagine with the technology today, just what could be mined below!! Hell, probably could resift tails / dump and spend a year still finding pay.
Awesome video!
In the beginning of this video at second 14. The carving on the tree looks like the prophet Muhammad Islamic symbol
Check it out
Dude, your user name cracks me up, LOL. That carving is really cool, it depicts the drainage for the canyon next too it and leads you to an old mine.
I think an old treasure hunter/prospector by the name of Shirl Atwood made the carving. The carving is on a quaky, so it can't be very old (not Spanish). The reason I think he made that carving is because I found one of his marks on the tree next to it.
@@LowBudgetExploration oh......... (I have ccp and pla trolls following me on social media. So I created the username in order to troll them back. Glad you like it. 😆)
@@JasonAlexzander1q47 LOL, you strike me as someone who likes to stir up some sh*t. I do like it. Very cool.
@@LowBudgetExploration I call things as I see them. And it is fun at times. My life is limited. So I have no time for bullshit so to speak. So my detector is always on. 😆