PEDANTRY CORNER: in hindsight, I should have said that the Rhine was the "front line" between France and Prussia 1792, rather than the "border". It was actually the border with Baden. Thank you to all the Badeners pointing this out in the comments :) (And some bonus pedantry: that's where the front line starts, but obviously it moves quite a bit as the war develops, and the Prussians are nearly 300km into France when they get pushed back at the Battle of Valmy.)
@@ttaibe You should really patent this idea because UA-cam and anything "web 2.0+" need that. Not that they never knew about it nor tried it. But apparently they forgot and stated "quality is bullshit after quantity. And by that, I mean a +1 is worth all the trash in the world I can concentrate in my mouth". Which, oddly enough, isn't exactly a great business model. Don't eat trash. Open a Pedentry Corner.
I also suspect that the celebration on July 14th 1792 could be a "fête de la Fédération", although a quick search on Wikipedia turned out to be inconclusive.
I think it's also important to point to the fact that Rouget de Lisle did NOT 'dislike the monarchy'. It's a huge misconception that all those fighting with the revolutionaries were supporters of a republican system. The early years of the revolution were to establish a constitutional monarchy. In fact your man was imprisoned under the terror for his "suspect" views, which he never abandoned, and many years later went on to write the song "Vive le Roi!" in 1814. After falling into destitution he was awarded a pension from the last king of the French, Louis-Phillipe in 1830.
And… Here in silly Norway, the word “landeplage” litt. _a plague across the country…_ was used until we anglified towards _viral_ . 🙈 (The No. word for plague is “pest” - etymology pretty much the same, and ‘viral’ is also something unhealthy. What a coincidence…)
To be honest, having lived through at least two super bowls (There might have been a third?), I really can't blame the Parisians. Any time a large production rolls through town, the best thing you can do is get the cluck out of Dodge.
@@jackielinde7568 I always wonder why people who own a Dodge are trying to get out of it. It is never a Chevy of a Ford. Must be something with the quality.
Only problem, Marseille is one of the co'-host cities of the Olympics (sailing etc.)....and yes we have been hearing quite a lot of the Marseillaise since the games opened, we might even be top of the medal table this evening!!
In case anyone reading this thread doesn't know and would like to, the saying refers to Dodge City, Kansas, by way of old Western movies and TV shows (particularly the long-running TV Western _Gunsmoke,_ which was set there). If a man picked a fight with the wrong bunch of hombres, the best thing he could do was get the heck outta Dodge.
Very many years ago I attended an Anglo (her) French (him) wedding near Southend on Sea. Speeches and then the national anthem, the UK one. Then an awkward pause. By this time I'd had a couple or more of glasses of something, so I started to sing (just the tune) of La Marseillaise. The French picked it up and sang the words unaccompanied. Very impressive it was too. I got a lot of "Bravo juene homme!" from them for starting them off. My French singing career has thankfully not taken off since.
La Marseillaise is by far the best national anthem. The lyrics are full of stuff about blood and guts, but most importantly a great tune. After that, the Russian anthem, but for some reason we don't hear that much these days...
@@rogink I think 'Deutschland Uber Alles' is musically the best. Well, maybe second best, after Holst's beautiful "I vow to thee my country" (even though the words are a hyper-patriotic cringefest). I'm just speaking musically here, not politically. :)
So basically, it's like calling an instrument the French horn even though the French horn is actually German. Or the Spanish flu even though it didn't originate in Spain, it originated in the US, but it was called that because Spain was neutral during WWI and didn't censor its news about it. A neat anthem fact is that Finland's and Estonia's anthems have the same melody! Finland's Maamme was composed by the German immigrant Fredrik Pacius and originally had Swedish lyrics by Johan Ludvig Runeberg in 1848. Estonia's lyrics weren't written until 1869 by Johann Voldemar Jannsen. Finns and Estonians are Finnic peoples, so Estonian has more in common with Finnish than with the languages of its Baltic neighbors. So because of that strong cultural link with Finns, it makes sense they share the same melody. Also worth mentioning that Liechtenstein's anthem, Oben am jungen Rhein, is set to the same melody as God Save the King, which in the 19th century had been used for a number of anthems of German-speaking nations, including those of Prussia, Bavaria, Saxony, and Switzerland. As well as the royal anthem of Norway, "Kongesangen". And the US used the melody for the patriotic song My Country, 'Tis of Thee. Fun facts about the DPRK's anthem: It's called Aegukka or "Song of Patriotism". Originally, the Korean exile government (1919-1945) in Shanghai, China adopted as their national anthem "Aegukga" (which has the same name with a different Romanization) to the tune of "Auld Lang Syne". After World War II, South Korea kept the words, put to a new tune (changed from "Auld Lang Syne"), while the DPRK adopted this newly written piece in 1947. The words were originally written by Pak Se-yong and the music was composed by Kim Won-gyun, however the lyrics were slightly altered in 2024 after the DPRK abandoned efforts for peaceful reunification. The line "The country of three thousand ri," was changed to "This world, my beautiful homeland", and everything else stayed the same. For those wondering about the "three thousand Ri", Ri a unit of measurement in Japan and Korea that traces to the Chinese li (里). Although the Chinese unit was unofficially used in Japan since the Zhou Dynasty, the countries officially adopted the measurement used by the Tang Dynasty. It has a value of approximately 392.72 m, or one tenth of the ri. So 3,000 ri roughly corresponds to 1,200 km, the longitudinal span of Korea. In the DPRK, a mythical flying horse called the Chollima can travel a thousand ri or 500 km in a single day. This is the Chollima in the song Chollima on the Wing to promote working harder and faster.
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You forgot to mention if the city is wheelchair accessible!
Sidewalks are often narrow and high, no ramps. In many places cars are parked on the sidewalks. There are many stairs and steep hills. That's what I remembered from ~15 years ago. The youtuber Altis Play has a video about how bikeable Marseille is, there is some nice bikelanes (along the coast), most of it is terrible. There maybe some kind of service for wheelchair users, I don't know.
For a number of reasons Napoleon was never a fan of this popular song and tried to have it banned so to rub salt in the wounds after the retreat from Russia by Napoleon and his Grand Army after Borodino, some 70 years later Tchaikovsky inserted a few bars of the Marseillaise into the 1812 Overture.
Le Chant du Départ served as national anthem for a while. La République nous appelle Sachons vaincre, ou sachons périr Un Français doit vivre pour elle Pour elle un Français doit mourir
Also, there is the La Marseillaise des Blancs, a version with Monarchist lyrics as a response. And a few others with more locals lyrics. fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise_des_Blancs
There is actually a song called La Strasbourgeoise, but it was created during a different period! It was composed in 1870 because of the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, after which France lost Alsace-Lorraine in 1871. Its lyrics were done by Gaston Villemer and Lucien Delormel, and the music by Henri Natif. It did not necessarily enter the repertoire of soldiers of the time, as it does not appear in collections prior to the First World War. Here are some facts about other national anthems: The Star-Spangled Banner is about the War of 1812, not the American Revolution! The lyrics come from a poem called the "Defence of Fort M'Henry" by lawyer Francis Scott Key on September 14, 1814, after he witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry by the British Royal Navy during the Battle of Baltimore. Key was inspired by the large US flag, with 15 stars and 15 stripes at the time, flying triumphantly above the fort after the battle. And it was set to the tune of "To Anacreon in Heaven" by John Stafford Smith. It was first recognized for official use by the United States Navy in 1889, and in 1931, Congress passed a joint resolution making the song the official national anthem. I got to visit Fort McHenry back in 2010 on the way back to the NYC metro from a boy scout jamboree in Virginia. It was right in time for a flag ceremony, and I had the opportunity to hold the folded flag and walk to give it to a ranger. Doing that at the location where the national anthem honoring the flag was written...it was an experience. Something neat about Fort McHenry besides the anthem is that it has become national tradition that when a new flag is designed, it first flies over Fort McHenry! La Bayamesa is the national anthem of Cuba. On October 20, 1868, Cuban independence fighters obtained the capitulation of the Spanish colonial authorities in Bayamo. Perucho Figueredo took part in the battle, and the jubilant people surrounded Figueredo and asked him to write an anthem with the melody they were humming. Right on the saddle of his horse, Figueredo wrote the lyrics of the anthem, which was longer than the current official version. Figueredo was captured and executed by the Spanish two years later. Just before the firing squad received the command, Figueredo shouted the line from his song, "Morir por la Patria es vivir" (To die for the country is to live). It was officially adopted in 1902 when Cuba became a republic. So the anthem has nothing to do with communism, Fidel kept the anthem for the same reason he kept the flag, because they're both revolutionary enough. By length of text, Greece's anthem, the Hymn to Liberty, is the world's longest anthem with 158 stanzas, but usually only the first two verses are performed! In its full length, "Hymn to Liberty" by Dionysios Solomos recounts the misery of the Greeks under the Ottomans and their hope for freedom. He describes different events of the War, such as the execution of Patriarch Gregory V of Constantinople, the reaction of the Great Powers, extensively the Siege of Tripolitsa and the Christian character of the struggle.
I’m born on 14th of July and celebrated my birthday last year in Paris. It was awesome to see everyone celebrate my birthday and have a massive parade organized for me. Best birthday present ever. /s
Take home message: *if* you were loud enough, it shall at some point be known as "Le Jour Cyrilionais", and UA-camrs will be making videos why it is called that.
@@landsgevaer Good luck with that. You'd have to be louder than the loudest of the French Nationalists. Although to be fair, those are royalist or neo-nazis. But the second loudest who are proud of "La Marseillaise" can still make some noise. And if you want to sort of "safe-test" how bad the idea is, don't go directly to the Nationalists. Just casually drop the suggestion at a bar in Marseille. You'll hear some very loud bells after that, trust me.
Sweden's anthem is just as convoluted, both the title and the lyrics are slightly off. The lyrics because they make a point of not mentioning Sweden at all, but instead is all about how great the Nordics are. The original title kind of gives the game away, as it used to be called "Hyllning till Norden" (Ode to the Nordics). It was penned as a Scandinavianist anthem, back when it seemed logical for a lot of Swedes, but not to very many Danes at all, to make like the Germans or the Italians and unify a region under a powerful single nation and create a new mega-nation. These days the song is usually called "Du gamla du fria", and I think there's even a new third verse specifically about Sweden now to make it a bit more anthem-appropriate. But that name is literally just the first lines of the song, and no-one remembers close to enough of it to get to the third verse anyway, so it's all a bit of a half hearted mess still. Supposedly Sweden actually gets namechecked in the Polish anthem, though I doubt they're exactly singing our praises, what with the Deluge we put them through and everything.
you could also do what we Dutch did and have a anthem that at no point refers to the country. As its more about 1 person and his relationship witht he fact that he had to fight for the republic against the person who he grew up with (the then king of Spain)
Bavarian fun fact: The song was dedicated to Marshall Nikolaus von Luckner (as is visible on the song sheet Tim uses at 1:09). This guy was born in Cham, which is a town in the east of Bavaria. He was beheaded only two years after this song was written.The Marseillaise is played in his honour by the chimes of the town hall in Cham every day at 5 past 12. Plus, you can still find a painting of him at the palace of Versailles. My job here is done. *flies away
And then that made me look up Instant Karma, because it seems like John stole from himself. But I only had the Tater Totz cover of it. And soon I was on UA-cam music looking up O Relogio by Os Mutantes.
I have been to Rouget de Lisle's hometown in Jura and there's a monument in tribute to him and his anthem. As a Brit with French ancestry, I'm very jealous of 'La Marseillaise' - it is infinitely better than 'God save the King/Queen' and far more rousing.
Das schönste Land in Deutschlands Gaun, Das ist mein Badnerland Es ist so herrlich anzuschaun Und ruht in Gottes Hand. Refrain Drum grüß ich dich mein Badnerland, Du edle Perl' im deutschen Land, Frisch auf, frisch auf; Frisch auf, frisch auf; Frisch auf, frisch auf mein Badnerland!
In 1792, as well as lands of the Margraviate of Baden, the Rhine was also the border between France and parts of the Vorlande, those parts of the Breisgau ruled by the Habsburgs. The Prince-Bishopric of Strasbourg also still occupied part of the eastern bank.
Hi Tim. A few years ago I sent you a tweet about the ferry boat in Marseille. Since then, I have moved to Paris (which I had the pleasure to discover through your videos) and it is with great emotions that I finally see you under the blue sky of my home town. Thanks for all your work, and I sincerely hope you enjoyed Marseille as much as it can be enjoyed (which I know can be difficult sometimes)
I'm from the other side of the planet, and worked in that city for a while. Banger of a joint, even the ... odd ... things were just madly incredible. I found it a wild mix of European city and anything but one. Still my favourite part of my time living out of my suitcase... except when the locals seem to lose the ability to drive when it rains for more than one minute. Please pass on my best regards next time you're back home.
lol, that reminds me of our own national anthem in Belgium called "La/De Brabançonne" which also doesn't mention the word Brabant or Brabançonne in the lyrics. Which I had to look up on wikipedia because nobody knows the full lyrics here (and apparently there have ben 4 different versions!). Originally it was about the region of Brabant in central Belgium that it was about, but then was changed to be about the whole country but the title stayed the same.
Live not far from there and never knew the history - thank you or rather merci beaucoup Tim 🙏 Not sure if you have done one yet on the funicular which ran between Nice & la Turbie ... there are others such as the one that still runs from the new Gare de Sud up to Digne les Bains, a real toy town railway that weaves through the low Alps
I've been REREADING parts of Agatha Heterodyne, Girl Genius (YES! Rereading... what is this MADNESS!!!) and I'm pretty sure it would have been a banger tune in Mechanicburg, on an account of all the killing and gore. Pretty sure the Jägerkin would have been singing it the loudest in Mama Gkika's.
Not just then. Even these days, when France and New Zealand are meeting in Rugby, the Kiwis are performing the "Haka" with lots of fierce grimacing, being responded to by the French singing a hymn to the butcher trade. Let's have a friendly encounter now ...
@@andrewgwilliam4831 Yep, Marseille is famous for the _accent Provencale_ ( _Provence_ being the region that Marseille is in and not just the word 'province' [although I assume they share an etymology from Latin]) which is probably the most recognisable French accents (from metropolitan France anyway, _Belge_ and _Quebecois_ are also very distinctive). One of its main characteristics is to pronounce the e's at the end of words which standard French doesn't do. Although Tim didn't hit it perfectly and ended up sounding more from Toulouse.
@@QuantumHistorian Thanks. "Provence" does derive directly from Latin "Provincia", by the way; it was incorporated into the Roman Empire long before the main part of Gaul, so I guess it became natural for Latin speakers to refer to it as "the Province".
I think I already knew this. Norman Davies “History of Europe” written in the late 1990s covers it as a vignette. I highly recommend reading that book. Very digestible and comprehensive tome on European history and culture.
This was such a video that you would do..... And you did it. 😁 Would love for you to take this one more step and do a history lesson from your perspective about the 1812 overture, which has Le Marseille in it 👍
Interesting video, I actually live in the building where the Marseilles was written in Strasbourg. I like many didn't know about the fact it was written here until they put a plaque up on the building
@@wearemysticking Probably not for you. I have met people being annoyed living in such locations. "Oh, you are living at such a historic site ..." "YES !! THAT WAS THEN ..." "Now, don't expect THE SAME of ME ...!"
Certainly not Prussia, although the Margraviate of Baden was not the only state with possessions on the east bank of the Rhine. The Breisgau was ruled by the Habsburgs, while the Prince-Bishopric of Strasbourg ruled lands too.
No, it was not. The Prussians were gaining influence, but the Habsburgs were still very much in charge of the HRE. Pressure didn't really become a serious Contender to the habsburgs for power in Germany until after all the mediatizations by Napoleon and the Congress of Vienna. In 1792, for example, Prussia had yet to have been awarded all of Cleves, Julich, and Berg, often collectively known as Westphalia, which is really what put Prussia securely in the place of being a great power and into conflict with France.
every time i joyfully join in the song around our French village war memorial ...the bloodthirsty lyrics shock me.... almost as weird as Britain rules the waves!
Was in Marseille back in April. Loved it there, safe, great weather despite the Mistral and just great to look at. Probably the most swag city I've been to other than London. Crazy good sneaker game
It's one of the five national anthems I can sing. American, Canadian, Portuguese, French, and British. I can hum the German and Austrian - you've got to love anthems with pedigrees as exalted as Haydn and Mozart. At one point I thought learning about other cultures and their music would help unite us in peace. Oh, what a sweet summer child.
Your video made me thirsty for me so looked up French Wikipedia. Apparently, la Strasbourgeoise (Chant de guerre pour l'armée du Rhin) didn't go viral, it was Dr François Mireu who bought it from Strasbourg to Marseilles and got the military there to sing it, and they are the ones who, when walking into Paris sung it loud and proud and they are the ones who made it viral. (And there was apparently lots of back and forth on having it adopted as anthem or not). It was revoked during german occupation in WWII. So ironic that La Marseilleise came from Strasbourg. I would have never thought about that on my own. Thansk for video. Now I have to rewarch it because there is apparently a joke about Nice. (got the plaid/plague one).
I hope you have a nice holiday, Tim, and find obscure and interesting things like this to make short videos about, because it really doesn't matter to me which subject you choose, you always manage to make it interesting and funny.
Nice outfit "Captain Obvious" ! 😉 I bet most of the French don't know this. Same goes for Belgium... I'm sure a video about "La Brabançonne" would be instructive as well.
Thank you Tim for your indications on how to come to my city of origin 😂 I’m around Marseille this week, do you think it would be possible to meet in the coming days ?
Almost the same situation as why the composition of the Finnish military march "March of the Pori Regiment" is called "Marche de Buonaparte en Égypte" although the lyrics of the song have nothing to do with Egypt in any way but swear revenge on behalf of the ancient Finnish war heroes who fell in the lands of Poland, Lützen, Leipzig and Narva, according to The Tales of Ensign Stål by Finnish national poet J.L. Runeberg.
I kind of knew of some of this because netflix once recommended "La Marseillaise" by Jean Renoir to me. And I watched it, of course, though most of the details are forgotten by now. I was surprised something like that was available there, to be honest.
I understood that La Marseillaise was the name of the tune. It was common, especially for hymns, for the tune to have a name completely unrelated to the lyrics. The hymn "Eternal Father Strong to Save" aka "For those in Peril on the Sea" has a tune called Melita, but the words don't mention Malta, it' national manifestation or my coffee filter machine.
man this channel is a treasure. i've been following for four or five years at this point, and every video is the perfect combination of humour, information and sightseeing. i don't really watch often but i think i'm going to binge on some videos i've missed now.
As always, you explained it well. *** I didn't know that the future "Marseillaise" was popular in many places in France before it was sung by people of Marseille in Paris. *** But the map of France you show is not the map of the time, because Nice only became French under Napoleon III. *** Belgium did not exist and the Czech Republic and Austria were an important part of the German Empire. *** The country opposite Strasbourg was not Prussia but the Markgrafschaft Baden, part of the German Empire. *** The German Emperor was a Habsburg, therefore an Austrian.
2:10 Judging by the splendidly french olympic opening ceremony, they still haven't got over the revolutionary tsunami ~ Guillotined Marie Antoinette being a headline moment of the show / shower. Time to move on mes amis!
Is Taky Marie-Divine Kouamé representing France at these Olympics? Because I remember her singing it when she became World Champion and that must be the best version of it ever. And probably louder than those soldiers from Marseille..
The best version of "La Marseillaise" I have ever heard is from the 1942 American movie Casablanca. From what I have read, it was so good and arrived at the perfect moment in the movie that it brought tears to most of the European Allied soldiers and civilians in WWII who saw Casablanca. I was born 15 years after the war ended, and that part of the film moves ME!!
Tim, when will you do the next Gadgetbahn, the Urbanloop in Paris? Or do you want to wait for its closure to talk about the silliness it is? Or the Nancy version of Urbanloop as a follow-up of your last weird transit there? Love ya from France.
PEDANTRY CORNER: in hindsight, I should have said that the Rhine was the "front line" between France and Prussia 1792, rather than the "border". It was actually the border with Baden. Thank you to all the Badeners pointing this out in the comments :)
(And some bonus pedantry: that's where the front line starts, but obviously it moves quite a bit as the war develops, and the Prussians are nearly 300km into France when they get pushed back at the Battle of Valmy.)
Maybe pin a "Pedantry Corner" post next time where people can reply their pedantry XD.
@@ttaibe You should really patent this idea because UA-cam and anything "web 2.0+" need that. Not that they never knew about it nor tried it.
But apparently they forgot and stated "quality is bullshit after quantity. And by that, I mean a +1 is worth all the trash in the world I can concentrate in my mouth". Which, oddly enough, isn't exactly a great business model.
Don't eat trash. Open a Pedentry Corner.
Fun fact: Spain's national anthem has no lyrics.
I also suspect that the celebration on July 14th 1792 could be a "fête de la Fédération", although a quick search on Wikipedia turned out to be inconclusive.
I think it's also important to point to the fact that Rouget de Lisle did NOT 'dislike the monarchy'. It's a huge misconception that all those fighting with the revolutionaries were supporters of a republican system. The early years of the revolution were to establish a constitutional monarchy. In fact your man was imprisoned under the terror for his "suspect" views, which he never abandoned, and many years later went on to write the song "Vive le Roi!" in 1814. After falling into destitution he was awarded a pension from the last king of the French, Louis-Phillipe in 1830.
"It went plague." OMG, I fell out of my chair with that line.
It deserves wide application.
That was pure gold!
And… Here in silly Norway, the word “landeplage” litt. _a plague across the country…_ was used until we anglified towards _viral_ . 🙈
(The No. word for plague is “pest” - etymology pretty much the same, and ‘viral’ is also something unhealthy. What a coincidence…)
I was just about to comment the same thing!! 😂
I'm just climbing back into mine looking for comments to acknowledge it lmao
Tim doing the very Parisian thing, and getting the heck out of town during the Olympics
To be honest, having lived through at least two super bowls (There might have been a third?), I really can't blame the Parisians. Any time a large production rolls through town, the best thing you can do is get the cluck out of Dodge.
@@jackielinde7568 I always wonder why people who own a Dodge are trying to get out of it. It is never a Chevy of a Ford. Must be something with the quality.
My family did kind of the same thing, taking a Hawaiian vacation during the Los Angeles Olympics in 84.
Only problem, Marseille is one of the co'-host cities of the Olympics (sailing etc.)....and yes we have been hearing quite a lot of the Marseillaise since the games opened, we might even be top of the medal table this evening!!
In case anyone reading this thread doesn't know and would like to, the saying refers to Dodge City, Kansas, by way of old Western movies and TV shows (particularly the long-running TV Western _Gunsmoke,_ which was set there). If a man picked a fight with the wrong bunch of hombres, the best thing he could do was get the heck outta Dodge.
If you do miss it, you'll find a Nice other city.
Nice pun
I don't get it. Cannes you explain ?
@@osenseijedi nah it would be Toulon(g)
depends on the direction you are traveling.
If you're going the other way and miss it, you'll find it's easy Toulouse your destination
Don't worry - you'll find somewhere else interesting beforléans.
Very many years ago I attended an Anglo (her) French (him) wedding near Southend on Sea. Speeches and then the national anthem, the UK one. Then an awkward pause. By this time I'd had a couple or more of glasses of something, so I started to sing (just the tune) of La Marseillaise. The French picked it up and sang the words unaccompanied. Very impressive it was too. I got a lot of "Bravo juene homme!" from them for starting them off. My French singing career has thankfully not taken off since.
Very Casablanca!
Why on Earth would someone play a national anthem at a wedding?! Were they in the army or something?
I hope they didn't forget to say "Tas d'cochons!" at the end!
La Marseillaise is by far the best national anthem. The lyrics are full of stuff about blood and guts, but most importantly a great tune. After that, the Russian anthem, but for some reason we don't hear that much these days...
@@rogink I think 'Deutschland Uber Alles' is musically the best. Well, maybe second best, after Holst's beautiful "I vow to thee my country" (even though the words are a hyper-patriotic cringefest). I'm just speaking musically here, not politically. :)
So basically, it's like calling an instrument the French horn even though the French horn is actually German. Or the Spanish flu even though it didn't originate in Spain, it originated in the US, but it was called that because Spain was neutral during WWI and didn't censor its news about it. A neat anthem fact is that Finland's and Estonia's anthems have the same melody! Finland's Maamme was composed by the German immigrant Fredrik Pacius and originally had Swedish lyrics by Johan Ludvig Runeberg in 1848. Estonia's lyrics weren't written until 1869 by Johann Voldemar Jannsen. Finns and Estonians are Finnic peoples, so Estonian has more in common with Finnish than with the languages of its Baltic neighbors. So because of that strong cultural link with Finns, it makes sense they share the same melody. Also worth mentioning that Liechtenstein's anthem, Oben am jungen Rhein, is set to the same melody as God Save the King, which in the 19th century had been used for a number of anthems of German-speaking nations, including those of Prussia, Bavaria, Saxony, and Switzerland. As well as the royal anthem of Norway, "Kongesangen". And the US used the melody for the patriotic song My Country, 'Tis of Thee.
Fun facts about the DPRK's anthem: It's called Aegukka or "Song of Patriotism". Originally, the Korean exile government (1919-1945) in Shanghai, China adopted as their national anthem "Aegukga" (which has the same name with a different Romanization) to the tune of "Auld Lang Syne". After World War II, South Korea kept the words, put to a new tune (changed from "Auld Lang Syne"), while the DPRK adopted this newly written piece in 1947. The words were originally written by Pak Se-yong and the music was composed by Kim Won-gyun, however the lyrics were slightly altered in 2024 after the DPRK abandoned efforts for peaceful reunification. The line "The country of three thousand ri," was changed to "This world, my beautiful homeland", and everything else stayed the same. For those wondering about the "three thousand Ri", Ri a unit of measurement in Japan and Korea that traces to the Chinese li (里). Although the Chinese unit was unofficially used in Japan since the Zhou Dynasty, the countries officially adopted the measurement used by the Tang Dynasty. It has a value of approximately 392.72 m, or one tenth of the ri. So 3,000 ri roughly corresponds to 1,200 km, the longitudinal span of Korea. In the DPRK, a mythical flying horse called the Chollima can travel a thousand ri or 500 km in a single day. This is the Chollima in the song Chollima on the Wing to promote working harder and faster.
You forgot to mention if the city is wheelchair accessible!
It's France, so probably not.
It is
Some bits are.
Right? Come on, Tim, you're slacking! Give us Public Transport directions to Marseille, and a guesstimation of how much of it is handicap accessible!
Sidewalks are often narrow and high, no ramps. In many places cars are parked on the sidewalks. There are many stairs and steep hills. That's what I remembered from ~15 years ago. The youtuber Altis Play has a video about how bikeable Marseille is, there is some nice bikelanes (along the coast), most of it is terrible. There maybe some kind of service for wheelchair users, I don't know.
Instructions unclear, ended up on some island called Reunion. 😂
For a number of reasons Napoleon was never a fan of this popular song and tried to have it banned so to rub salt in the wounds after the retreat from Russia by Napoleon and his Grand Army after Borodino, some 70 years later Tchaikovsky inserted a few bars of the Marseillaise into the 1812 Overture.
Le Chant du Départ served as national anthem for a while.
La République nous appelle
Sachons vaincre, ou sachons périr
Un Français doit vivre pour elle
Pour elle un Français doit mourir
The chant du départ is even more beautiful than the Marseillaise
1:44 Fun fact, there's another popular military song called "La strasbourgeoise".
Also, there is the La Marseillaise des Blancs, a version with Monarchist lyrics as a response. And a few others with more locals lyrics.
fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise_des_Blancs
La Strasbourgeoise is about the war of 1870 tho, so way younger...
@@volty58 achtzehnhundertschießmichtot
@@volty58 And a sad patriotic ballad rather than a military song.
There is actually a song called La Strasbourgeoise, but it was created during a different period! It was composed in 1870 because of the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, after which France lost Alsace-Lorraine in 1871. Its lyrics were done by Gaston Villemer and Lucien Delormel, and the music by Henri Natif. It did not necessarily enter the repertoire of soldiers of the time, as it does not appear in collections prior to the First World War. Here are some facts about other national anthems: The Star-Spangled Banner is about the War of 1812, not the American Revolution! The lyrics come from a poem called the "Defence of Fort M'Henry" by lawyer Francis Scott Key on September 14, 1814, after he witnessed the bombardment of Fort McHenry by the British Royal Navy during the Battle of Baltimore. Key was inspired by the large US flag, with 15 stars and 15 stripes at the time, flying triumphantly above the fort after the battle. And it was set to the tune of "To Anacreon in Heaven" by John Stafford Smith. It was first recognized for official use by the United States Navy in 1889, and in 1931, Congress passed a joint resolution making the song the official national anthem. I got to visit Fort McHenry back in 2010 on the way back to the NYC metro from a boy scout jamboree in Virginia. It was right in time for a flag ceremony, and I had the opportunity to hold the folded flag and walk to give it to a ranger. Doing that at the location where the national anthem honoring the flag was written...it was an experience. Something neat about Fort McHenry besides the anthem is that it has become national tradition that when a new flag is designed, it first flies over Fort McHenry!
La Bayamesa is the national anthem of Cuba. On October 20, 1868, Cuban independence fighters obtained the capitulation of the Spanish colonial authorities in Bayamo. Perucho Figueredo took part in the battle, and the jubilant people surrounded Figueredo and asked him to write an anthem with the melody they were humming. Right on the saddle of his horse, Figueredo wrote the lyrics of the anthem, which was longer than the current official version. Figueredo was captured and executed by the Spanish two years later. Just before the firing squad received the command, Figueredo shouted the line from his song, "Morir por la Patria es vivir" (To die for the country is to live). It was officially adopted in 1902 when Cuba became a republic. So the anthem has nothing to do with communism, Fidel kept the anthem for the same reason he kept the flag, because they're both revolutionary enough. By length of text, Greece's anthem, the Hymn to Liberty, is the world's longest anthem with 158 stanzas, but usually only the first two verses are performed! In its full length, "Hymn to Liberty" by Dionysios Solomos recounts the misery of the Greeks under the Ottomans and their hope for freedom. He describes different events of the War, such as the execution of Patriarch Gregory V of Constantinople, the reaction of the Great Powers, extensively the Siege of Tripolitsa and the Christian character of the struggle.
Some excellent jokes in this one “it went plague” is a classic
Is it? The joke was made not even a day ago. Already a classic?
Just as well that this patriotic ditty was most popular in Marseille rather than Mayonne...
Hahahaha :D This is why people say, you should always acknowledge your sauces.
Since we're currently in Pedant Central I have a slight correction - it's Salsa Mahonesas. From Mahon, capital town of Menorca in the Baleares.
Love your French mime outfit, Tim. 😂 seriously, you're the best. Viva la Tim!
"guys I think I just wrote the song of the summer"
-Claude Joseph Rouget de Lisle
"Gentlemen, you've just written the new French national anthem."
I’m born on 14th of July and celebrated my birthday last year in Paris. It was awesome to see everyone celebrate my birthday and have a massive parade organized for me. Best birthday present ever. /s
Bonne anniversaire! Happy birthday to you! 😊
Take home message: *if* you were loud enough, it shall at some point be known as "Le Jour Cyrilionais", and UA-camrs will be making videos why it is called that.
I felt the same when I went in London for my birthday and it was trooping the colours 😁
@@landsgevaer Good luck with that. You'd have to be louder than the loudest of the French Nationalists.
Although to be fair, those are royalist or neo-nazis. But the second loudest who are proud of "La Marseillaise" can still make some noise.
And if you want to sort of "safe-test" how bad the idea is, don't go directly to the Nationalists.
Just casually drop the suggestion at a bar in Marseille. You'll hear some very loud bells after that, trust me.
Hah! An ex-boyfriend of mine was born on the 4th of July, and I used to joke about Americans making such a big fuss for his birthday. 🤣
"we can end the video there" (shows the train from the beginning pulling out in reverse hehehe)
and the people walking backwards. You can't fool us!
Sweden's anthem is just as convoluted, both the title and the lyrics are slightly off. The lyrics because they make a point of not mentioning Sweden at all, but instead is all about how great the Nordics are. The original title kind of gives the game away, as it used to be called "Hyllning till Norden" (Ode to the Nordics). It was penned as a Scandinavianist anthem, back when it seemed logical for a lot of Swedes, but not to very many Danes at all, to make like the Germans or the Italians and unify a region under a powerful single nation and create a new mega-nation.
These days the song is usually called "Du gamla du fria", and I think there's even a new third verse specifically about Sweden now to make it a bit more anthem-appropriate. But that name is literally just the first lines of the song, and no-one remembers close to enough of it to get to the third verse anyway, so it's all a bit of a half hearted mess still.
Supposedly Sweden actually gets namechecked in the Polish anthem, though I doubt they're exactly singing our praises, what with the Deluge we put them through and everything.
The Danes were just a bit "Now you want one country? You were the ones who broke up with us!"
you could also do what we Dutch did and have a anthem that at no point refers to the country. As its more about 1 person and his relationship witht he fact that he had to fight for the republic against the person who he grew up with (the then king of Spain)
I think the bit in the Polish national anthem is a back-handed compliment, so not quite as bad as you thought!
Spain enters the chat.
...but doesn't say anything.
Excellent video as always. I love those obscure facts and please post more of them along with your usual stuff!
Leaving this comment to add to the appreciation of the line "It went plague".
_"It went plague!"_ Can I have some of your Absinthe?
Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.
Bavarian fun fact: The song was dedicated to Marshall Nikolaus von Luckner (as is visible on the song sheet Tim uses at 1:09). This guy was born in Cham, which is a town in the east of Bavaria. He was beheaded only two years after this song was written.The Marseillaise is played in his honour by the chimes of the town hall in Cham every day at 5 past 12. Plus, you can still find a painting of him at the palace of Versailles. My job here is done. *flies away
Absinthe makes the heart grow fonder
Ten minutes ago, I heard „All you need is love“ by the Beatles. ❤️
And then that made me look up Instant Karma, because it seems like John stole from himself. But I only had the Tater Totz cover of it. And soon I was on UA-cam music looking up O Relogio by Os Mutantes.
A pleasure, Tim, as allways - I do love these doses of pedantry!
The graphics in this video are so good and witty. Great job! I hope your video goes plague!
I have been to Rouget de Lisle's hometown in Jura and there's a monument in tribute to him and his anthem.
As a Brit with French ancestry, I'm very jealous of 'La Marseillaise' - it is infinitely better than 'God save the King/Queen' and far more rousing.
Would you be interested to or jealous to know Rouget de Lisle's 7th great Nephew. Well hear I am, and I have the Proof to prove it.
The Rhine was actually the border between France and Baden, not Prussia.
hi fellow Badenser
Das schönste Land in Deutschlands Gaun,
Das ist mein Badnerland
Es ist so herrlich anzuschaun
Und ruht in Gottes Hand.
Refrain
Drum grüß ich dich mein Badnerland,
Du edle Perl' im deutschen Land,
Frisch auf, frisch auf;
Frisch auf, frisch auf;
Frisch auf, frisch auf mein Badnerland!
Not in 1792.
In hindsight, I probably should have said "front line" rather than border.
In 1792, as well as lands of the Margraviate of Baden, the Rhine was also the border between France and parts of the Vorlande, those parts of the Breisgau ruled by the Habsburgs. The Prince-Bishopric of Strasbourg also still occupied part of the eastern bank.
Hi Tim.
A few years ago I sent you a tweet about the ferry boat in Marseille. Since then, I have moved to Paris (which I had the pleasure to discover through your videos) and it is with great emotions that I finally see you under the blue sky of my home town. Thanks for all your work, and I sincerely hope you enjoyed Marseille as much as it can be enjoyed (which I know can be difficult sometimes)
That makes it sound like you'd never heard of "Paris" until you saw his videos! He does visit some obscure places. ;-)
I'm from the other side of the planet, and worked in that city for a while. Banger of a joint, even the ... odd ... things were just madly incredible. I found it a wild mix of European city and anything but one. Still my favourite part of my time living out of my suitcase... except when the locals seem to lose the ability to drive when it rains for more than one minute. Please pass on my best regards next time you're back home.
What a unique excuse to travel to Marseille ("why is .. "). I'm looking forward to your next video, Tim!
lol, that reminds me of our own national anthem in Belgium called "La/De Brabançonne" which also doesn't mention the word Brabant or Brabançonne in the lyrics. Which I had to look up on wikipedia because nobody knows the full lyrics here (and apparently there have ben 4 different versions!). Originally it was about the region of Brabant in central Belgium that it was about, but then was changed to be about the whole country but the title stayed the same.
Live not far from there and never knew the history - thank you or rather merci beaucoup Tim 🙏 Not sure if you have done one yet on the funicular which ran between Nice & la Turbie ... there are others such as the one that still runs from the new Gare de Sud up to Digne les Bains, a real toy town railway that weaves through the low Alps
theres an Indonesian patriotic song titled "Dari Sabang Sampai Merauke" (From Sabang to Marauke) that uses the melody of La Marseillaise fsr
Very interesting.
I only knew the instrumental part because I am not and dont't speak french but is very famous this anthem abroad.
Thank you.
The feel-good summer hit of 1792, with copious amounts of gore, killing, and disembowelment. I.e. all that you want from a summer hit. :D
I've been REREADING parts of Agatha Heterodyne, Girl Genius (YES! Rereading... what is this MADNESS!!!) and I'm pretty sure it would have been a banger tune in Mechanicburg, on an account of all the killing and gore. Pretty sure the Jägerkin would have been singing it the loudest in Mama Gkika's.
I'm still getting over the WAP from a few years ago
So, in other words, just like _Blurred Lines_ . Got it!
Not just then. Even these days, when France and New Zealand are meeting in Rugby, the Kiwis are performing the "Haka" with lots of fierce grimacing, being responded to by the French singing a hymn to the butcher trade. Let's have a friendly encounter now ...
"ça va bieng" with the accent
😅
I was wondering about that! Is it a regional thing?
@@andrewgwilliam4831 kind of, it's technically more of a southwestern accent
@@andrewgwilliam4831 Yep, Marseille is famous for the _accent Provencale_ ( _Provence_ being the region that Marseille is in and not just the word 'province' [although I assume they share an etymology from Latin]) which is probably the most recognisable French accents (from metropolitan France anyway, _Belge_ and _Quebecois_ are also very distinctive). One of its main characteristics is to pronounce the e's at the end of words which standard French doesn't do. Although Tim didn't hit it perfectly and ended up sounding more from Toulouse.
@@QuantumHistorian Thanks. "Provence" does derive directly from Latin "Provincia", by the way; it was incorporated into the Roman Empire long before the main part of Gaul, so I guess it became natural for Latin speakers to refer to it as "the Province".
Thank you for the video! It's always a better day when there is a video from The Tim Traveller
Thanks for this, I’ve always wondered!
I think I already knew this. Norman Davies “History of Europe” written in the late 1990s covers it as a vignette. I highly recommend reading that book. Very digestible and comprehensive tome on European history and culture.
Again something I didn't know I wanted to know. But I do now, thanks Tim!
Fun fact, this tune is just as well known in Australia for being the theme song used by AFL team Brisbane Lions (with different lyrics of course)
This was such a video that you would do.....
And you did it. 😁
Would love for you to take this one more step and do a history lesson from your perspective about the 1812 overture, which has Le Marseille in it 👍
Always wondered this... thanks for the vid.
That inclusion of the ambient sound with French speech was like a cherry on top!
Interesting video, I actually live in the building where the Marseilles was written in Strasbourg. I like many didn't know about the fact it was written here until they put a plaque up on the building
Oh, no, so much stress. Everyone living at those "plaque places" has to come up with something remarkable for the authorities fitting another one.
@@thies7831 that makes no sense
@@wearemysticking Probably not for you. I have met people being annoyed living in such locations. "Oh, you are living at such a historic site ..." "YES !! THAT WAS THEN ..." "Now, don't expect THE SAME of ME ...!"
@@thies7831 thanks for confirming what you meant. Unfortunately I still don't understand, but no problem. Have a good one
Very interesting. Thank you Tim.
Cleaning my laptop screen after spitting out my apple after the "going plague" line.
1:27 - Wouldn't Strasbourg have been at the border to the HRE or the margraviate of Baden rather than Prussia?
Not in 1792.
wth is a margraviate?
Certainly not Prussia, although the Margraviate of Baden was not the only state with possessions on the east bank of the Rhine. The Breisgau was ruled by the Habsburgs, while the Prince-Bishopric of Strasbourg ruled lands too.
at that point Prussia was more or les the HRE with some other lesser kingdoms and principalities mixed in.
No, it was not. The Prussians were gaining influence, but the Habsburgs were still very much in charge of the HRE. Pressure didn't really become a serious Contender to the habsburgs for power in Germany until after all the mediatizations by Napoleon and the Congress of Vienna. In 1792, for example, Prussia had yet to have been awarded all of Cleves, Julich, and Berg, often collectively known as Westphalia, which is really what put Prussia securely in the place of being a great power and into conflict with France.
Thank you very much for this very informative, educative and entertaining Historical Video!🙂👍
Another super video! much enjoyed!
I learned some of this in a Strasbourg museum, but how it became attached to a completely different city is very interesting.
“Ye Old Book of Faces” 🤣🤣🤣
Happy to see you in Marseille, hope you had a wonderful time there :)
Interesting, entertaining and I appreciate not being urged over and over to like and subscribe. Look forward to your other videos.
Thanks! I absolutely never would have guessed that one! 😁
every time i joyfully join in the song around our French village war memorial ...the bloodthirsty lyrics shock me.... almost as weird as Britain rules the waves!
Tim, you’re well poised for reporting on current pedantry for the next month or so. We’re expecting greatness from you.
My favourite channel!
Was in Marseille back in April. Loved it there, safe, great weather despite the Mistral and just great to look at. Probably the most swag city I've been to other than London. Crazy good sneaker game
It went plague 😂
It's one of the five national anthems I can sing. American, Canadian, Portuguese, French, and British. I can hum the German and Austrian - you've got to love anthems with pedigrees as exalted as Haydn and Mozart. At one point I thought learning about other cultures and their music would help unite us in peace. Oh, what a sweet summer child.
Your video made me thirsty for me so looked up French Wikipedia. Apparently, la Strasbourgeoise (Chant de guerre pour l'armée du Rhin) didn't go viral, it was Dr François Mireu who bought it from Strasbourg to Marseilles and got the military there to sing it, and they are the ones who, when walking into Paris sung it loud and proud and they are the ones who made it viral. (And there was apparently lots of back and forth on having it adopted as anthem or not). It was revoked during german occupation in WWII.
So ironic that La Marseilleise came from Strasbourg. I would have never thought about that on my own. Thansk for video. Now I have to rewarch it because there is apparently a joke about Nice. (got the plaid/plague one).
Nice video! Oh, sorry, I of course meant Marseille video!
One of the best National Anthems
“It went plague”!!!!! That’s exactly the kind of commentary I watch these videos for. 😂
I hope you have a nice holiday, Tim, and find obscure and interesting things like this to make short videos about, because it really doesn't matter to me which subject you choose, you always manage to make it interesting and funny.
Nice outfit "Captain Obvious" ! 😉
I bet most of the French don't know this.
Same goes for Belgium... I'm sure a video about "La Brabançonne" would be instructive as well.
So a bit like the British talking about a "Mexican wave" because we got to know it at the world cup.
rouget de lisle looks strikingly like paul mccartney...has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time???
Now you mention it... I think we can quite categorically say "no." ;)
Thank you that was actually interesting. How a simple thing like that can become a national anthem for country very good.
How many times are we all going to say 'went plague' from now on I wonder. I've already said it to my cat.
Good video. And indeed easily reachable
Excellent one, Tim. Where's your "Thanks" link?
Feels weird not having the Tim Traveller theme play, but nevertheless a fun fact to be learning
Love the humour. And videos/films/whatever.
Fun fact: There also is a Strasbourgoise - but it's much younger, commemorating the loss of Alsace-Lorraine after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.
So essentially this was the 18th century version of someone saying the same joke but louder?
As a Badener, I have to point out that Straßburg was never on the border with Prussia. It was on the border with Baden.
So a bit like the Spanish flu: “The outbreak did not originate in Spain, but reporting did […]” (Wikipedia)
DAMN I was in Marseille during that Weekend as well! I wish I could have met you 😅
No title sequence?!? I know, I know, we're not here to see any of that...
The titles went on vacation with Tim. 🤣
Thank you Tim for your indications on how to come to my city of origin 😂
I’m around Marseille this week, do you think it would be possible to meet in the coming days ?
Almost the same situation as why the composition of the Finnish military march "March of the Pori Regiment" is called "Marche de Buonaparte en Égypte" although the lyrics of the song have nothing to do with Egypt in any way but swear revenge on behalf of the ancient Finnish war heroes who fell in the lands of Poland, Lützen, Leipzig and Narva, according to The Tales of Ensign Stål by Finnish national poet J.L. Runeberg.
I kind of knew of some of this because netflix once recommended "La Marseillaise" by Jean Renoir to me. And I watched it, of course, though most of the details are forgotten by now. I was surprised something like that was available there, to be honest.
Thank you!
Funniest of your endings ever!
And another upvote for "going plague"
You're on a roll!
I understood that La Marseillaise was the name of the tune. It was common, especially for hymns, for the tune to have a name completely unrelated to the lyrics. The hymn "Eternal Father Strong to Save" aka "For those in Peril on the Sea" has a tune called Melita, but the words don't mention Malta, it' national manifestation or my coffee filter machine.
4:35 But is it Wheelchair accessible though?
Smart Arseillaise!
And now I know!
man this channel is a treasure.
i've been following for four or five years at this point, and every video is the perfect combination of humour, information and sightseeing.
i don't really watch often but i think i'm going to binge on some videos i've missed now.
Since Captain Obvious is available, perhaps an explanation of Dijonnaise is also in order. (-:
Ah, that's named for Jonny. He was Greek, and he had a twin brother who was also called Jonny.
@@andrewgwilliam4831 that is the essence but I'll take it with a grain of mustard seed
I think Tim scheduled this video to celebrate the return of Pheasant Island back to French administration (from August 1st until January 31st). 🇫🇷🇪🇸
As always, you explained it well. *** I didn't know that the future "Marseillaise" was popular in many places in France before it was sung by people of Marseille in Paris. *** But the map of France you show is not the map of the time, because Nice only became French under Napoleon III. *** Belgium did not exist and the Czech Republic and Austria were an important part of the German Empire. *** The country opposite Strasbourg was not Prussia but the Markgrafschaft Baden, part of the German Empire. *** The German Emperor was a Habsburg, therefore an Austrian.
Hey, we were just there too. Neat!
I know this before watching because Mike Duncan taught me this and many other things!
2:10 Judging by the splendidly french olympic opening ceremony, they still haven't got over the revolutionary tsunami ~ Guillotined Marie Antoinette being a headline moment of the show / shower. Time to move on mes amis!
Is Taky Marie-Divine Kouamé representing France at these Olympics? Because I remember her singing it when she became World Champion and that must be the best version of it ever. And probably louder than those soldiers from Marseille..
She is!
The best version of "La Marseillaise" I have ever heard is from the 1942 American movie Casablanca. From what I have read, it was so good and arrived at the perfect moment in the movie that it brought tears to most of the European Allied soldiers and civilians in WWII who saw Casablanca. I was born 15 years after the war ended, and that part of the film moves ME!!
Tim, when will you do the next Gadgetbahn, the Urbanloop in Paris? Or do you want to wait for its closure to talk about the silliness it is? Or the Nancy version of Urbanloop as a follow-up of your last weird transit there?
Love ya from France.
The way i see it, the folks from Marseille & elsewhere were honorable to represent those from Strasbourg by playing their tune.