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  • Опубліковано 4 чер 2015
  • MIT 15.S50 Poker Theory and Analysis, IAP 2015
    View the complete course: ocw.mit.edu/15-S50IAP15
    Instructor: Joel Fried
    Guest Joel Fried demonstrates the tools of the PokerTracker software in this lecture.
    License: Creative Commons BY-NC-SA
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 118

  • @DasNasenLP
    @DasNasenLP 9 років тому +184

    why are we looking at his face and not the graphics the whole time?

    • @mitocw
      @mitocw  9 років тому +43

      nasenhaare l The lecture notes are available on MIT OpenCourseWare at: ocw.mit.edu/15-S50IAP15

    • @ismaelhayden2916
      @ismaelhayden2916 7 років тому +47

      That's why nerds run the world, don't bother rising to the obnoxious tone of the question, just supply an answer :)

    • @simplicitas5113
      @simplicitas5113 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@ismaelhayden2916Obnoxious is a strong word. How else can you phrase it? We are not all so articulate!

    • @ismaelhayden2916
      @ismaelhayden2916 4 місяці тому

      @@simplicitas5113 it was 6 years ago I made the comment, I think it's more about grace and humility than being articulate, but if you know what point in the video it is I'll listen again.

    • @westongunningham7151
      @westongunningham7151 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ismaelhayden2916how has life changed for you since 6 years ago random youtube watcher

  • @RyanNagy
    @RyanNagy 2 роки тому +8

    This is one of the best overviews of PokerTracker that I have seen. And a good summation of what stats to use and ignore. Following along with the software on your computer open as well as with the slides really helps. Peace

  • @gsxrveli
    @gsxrveli 2 роки тому +20

    wish this lesson could be recorded again and show everything the speaker is pointing to, when he is going over the concepts

    • @rrresonance2
      @rrresonance2 Рік тому

      you can find the slide deck on the MIT website linked in the description!!

  • @Luzwozen
    @Luzwozen 6 років тому +13

    great lesson, it was really helpful for me!

  • @petrandreev2418
    @petrandreev2418 Рік тому +6

    accorging to GTO we could have near qual decisions. but in real life, live opponents always have some tendentions how they away from optimal game. thats why you need information about your opponents as many as you could get.
    poker trackers, mining etc give many information about how far you could go into your exploit of field that you want exploit
    in general you need:
    1. opponent cluster, his prototype
    you could use different categories:
    joy players, passive fiches, maniaks, loose agressive players, tight aggresive players etc
    2. stat on opponents (mining , something similar with data base)
    usually we have only closed card with some hands that went to river.
    Poker is very interesting in behaviour analyse.
    Cause if you don't have enough statistic on your opponents you could take statistic of opponents of very similar to them, from their cetegory
    Something similar with: if you cant to ask scientist you could ask some of nearest to him and sometimes this could little predict him, esspecially if they from same school, or study with same teachers.
    In general poker tracker different soft could give many environment conclusions about similarity patterns of poker players, different poker schools, poker kartels, AI clusters, AI GTO users, players with assistance etc
    Actions, their branches, timing etc could be great in researching of AI and players behaviour
    like&comment this comment if you want to know more about this

  • @robertk2311
    @robertk2311 4 роки тому +5

    hey MIT, maybe next time your camera could show the screen that the lecturer is pointing to. And if you do, zoom in so the pertinent information (like numbers) can be read. just sayin

  • @bud3666
    @bud3666 11 місяців тому +3

    12:05 he said "vpip numver that was talked about last time". But last lecture he didn't joined and actually this video is first time he had lectured. What is wrong? Are some lectures missing?

  • @gillianorley
    @gillianorley 9 років тому +88

    So, basically, you've got to know when to hold 'em.
    Know when to fold 'em.
    Know when to walk away and know when to run.
    Got it.
    Do I get an A?

    • @wes_cab
      @wes_cab 2 роки тому +1

      Answer the provided problem sets with 90+% scoring!

    • @prakharnarang1898
      @prakharnarang1898 2 роки тому +2

      I am the 70th like on your comment. Sorry Internet

  • @TipoQueTocaelPiano
    @TipoQueTocaelPiano 9 років тому +34

    When does the poker theory start?

    • @joshuamerrell2550
      @joshuamerrell2550 8 років тому +8

      Citriano Torres Between the first "course" that explained nothing and was hosted by someone I have never heard of, and this guy just explaining how to use a HUD, I have no idea.

    • @scottab140
      @scottab140 8 років тому +6

      Citriano Torres You will not hear or read any viable poker theory and strategies. What you read or hear is done in order to get you to play and lose to pros and the casinos.

    • @goclbert
      @goclbert 6 років тому +17

      scottab140 that's just not true

  • @aionmisk6917
    @aionmisk6917 8 років тому +10

    Wouldn't knowing who is over-folding the SB be significant in analyzing a walk? I didn't go to MIT but this seems important.

    • @goclbert
      @goclbert 6 років тому +5

      You wouldn't want that as part of the same data set which is what he's talking about. Some people may over or under defendtheir blinds, and that's a different statistic. Sure it's associated with general fold % but should be looked at separately

  • @hidekitojo902
    @hidekitojo902 6 років тому +36

    how does poker tracker help me buy a house in the bay area?

    • @michaelfulton1080
      @michaelfulton1080 2 роки тому +3

      Go to Vegas and put it all on poker

    • @Ionesco962
      @Ionesco962 8 днів тому

      Wenn Sie Geld für drei haben und bereits 2/3 des Geldes verspielt haben!

  • @rashadmahmood9235
    @rashadmahmood9235 6 років тому +1

    Thanks buddy

  • @rashadmahmood9235
    @rashadmahmood9235 6 років тому +2

    It’s useful information

  • @RyanMcbride90
    @RyanMcbride90 2 роки тому +4

    Finally, I know where Ted ended up after HIMYM

  • @rcolucci09
    @rcolucci09 7 років тому +13

    zoom out next time! we have to see the board

  • @SmartPhone-tv4qi
    @SmartPhone-tv4qi 2 роки тому +2

    first situation it's clear call QQ gives you approx 40 ev in this situations don't know about tournament but cash is call

  • @georgemikal7345
    @georgemikal7345 2 роки тому +2

    "I'm Jed Mosley!"

  • @michael2305
    @michael2305 7 років тому +4

    It's good to speak very fast to have as much information possible in one session but on the other hand you want those people who haven't heard alot about that stuff to be able to process that information ... wich is kind of hard at that rate xD

  • @Sorin2120
    @Sorin2120 4 роки тому +6

    Title of this video should be changed to "How to Use Poker Tracker", as it contains no other information.

  • @andrewmaurer7193
    @andrewmaurer7193 8 років тому

    Where is the 3rd video?

    • @mitocw
      @mitocw  8 років тому +2

      +Andrew Maurer ua-cam.com/video/LCoPLFaeq0U/v-deo.html

  • @WahranRai
    @WahranRai 6 років тому +17

    The cameraman must be fired !!!

  • @nathanjohnson3948
    @nathanjohnson3948 4 роки тому

    Accident disliked but reliked immediately, ABSOLUTELY LOVE HE CONTENT I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT!!!!!

  • @77solsken
    @77solsken 7 років тому +8

    It would be more appropriate to introduce poker terminology for those not familiar with "pre-flop", "big blind", etc.

    • @apoocumber4164
      @apoocumber4164 2 роки тому

      Maybe you go watch from the start of the classes

    • @simplicitas5113
      @simplicitas5113 4 місяці тому

      You should know the game pretty well alrdy to be able to follow this at all. Same with any game. Chess strategy is lost on those who do not know the rules. Cuz chess is much harder actually you need to have played at least few hundred games to gain from any lecture.

    • @Yantingwolf-fb5ll
      @Yantingwolf-fb5ll 4 місяці тому

      @@simplicitas5113😢

  • @Scottjf8
    @Scottjf8 2 роки тому +2

    Why does this dude look like he's in the witness protection program?

  • @jonsnow6636
    @jonsnow6636 7 років тому +3

    This joel guy is actually just Ari Shaffirr in disguise

  • @prod.dylaancannon
    @prod.dylaancannon 2 роки тому +1

    Basically poker tracker is a pokedex.

  • @dakus
    @dakus 11 місяців тому +1

    Shroud

  • @pigdog126
    @pigdog126 8 років тому +3

    How long has MIT offered courses in poker? This sucks. I think poker is going to get a lot harder (un-beatable) very quickly.

    • @Kurtiskurtical
      @Kurtiskurtical 7 років тому +2

      Don't worry, it's not going to get ub-beatable at Hollywood Park in Los Angeles anytime soon!

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 2 роки тому

    I play on ignition poker and my little dot is alll the way to the left in this graph. *feels scammed bro* 9:07

  • @RyBrown
    @RyBrown 5 місяців тому

    14:42

  • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
    @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому +4

    8:58 analyzing luck tho.. "im chasing draws like crazy, and i dont know if im getting lucky or playing appropriately. you know what? ima check if im a lucky bastard or not!"
    woah there, MIT says to not do that!

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому

      im sure he means something else

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому

      shut up baybuh, i know it. but ALL information is usable. and "knowing what happened last weak will not help you!" is false. if you get dealt aces 3 times in a row, either ur dealer is cheating or your NOT going to get aces again

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 років тому +4

      Gambler's fallacy spotted. Having gotten delt AA 3 times in a row does not affect the probability of you getting AA next hand. It's still 1/200 or so...

    • @martin11334
      @martin11334 5 років тому

      @@FelipeV3444 and his very point was to do with checking how lucky you have got in the past to make sure that you haven't been letting the gambler's fallacy dictate your playstyle

    • @dustinblack2006
      @dustinblack2006 4 роки тому +1

      @@AVERYhornyMrDinosaur It doesn't matter how many times you've been dealt aces in a row, the probability is still the same each hand. If you haven't been dealt aces for 500 hands, you aren't more likely to get aces next hand.

  • @NoComplyHardware
    @NoComplyHardware 6 років тому +2

    It's Ted Mosby!

    • @cansomer6433
      @cansomer6433 4 роки тому

      I thought I was the only one to think that.

    • @theOceanMoon
      @theOceanMoon 3 роки тому

      Even I thought XD

  • @bjvandipohvak
    @bjvandipohvak 6 років тому +5

    6:16 clear fold with kings? WTF!

  • @Fear-xw2dj
    @Fear-xw2dj 7 років тому +3

    guide to online poker. step 1 download player tracker step 2 let program do the work step 3 listen to program step 4 win ...just saved 200k in tuition

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 років тому

      I'd like to see you do that if it's that easy.

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 2 роки тому

    Wait,.... what the fuck happened in hero vs villain? Did the runner runner 2 pair win it???? He's in on 66% of the flops the villain is. It seems 50/50..... why did we not see the end of this hand lmfao!

  • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
    @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 роки тому +5

    these "students" paid a presumably hefty tuition, to sit through an hour long commercial. I would be infuriated.

    • @anon_handle
      @anon_handle 2 роки тому

      Thinking the same thing

    • @lelanddyke8386
      @lelanddyke8386 Рік тому

      and that perfectly centered Poland Springs(TM) water

  • @woodrowjr.7166
    @woodrowjr.7166 Рік тому

    I'm not a strong swimmer

  • @upplsuckimcool16
    @upplsuckimcool16 7 років тому +2

    LOL I been plying poker for no longer than a month and that first question was the most obvious fold I've ever seen in my month long poker life.

    • @Daniel-cr3wq
      @Daniel-cr3wq 7 років тому +28

      Wow you're so good

    • @upplsuckimcool16
      @upplsuckimcool16 2 роки тому

      @@Daniel-cr3wq I think you and 23 others missed my point.

    • @gregchamberlain5490
      @gregchamberlain5490 3 місяці тому

      and how are you doin now?

    • @upplsuckimcool16
      @upplsuckimcool16 3 місяці тому

      @@gregchamberlain5490 i live in vegas grinding low stakes for a living....
      Crazy to see a post from 7 years ago like this ;D
      Hopefully i look back in 7 years from now and am able to say im grinding high stakes.

  • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
    @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому +9

    4:10 was screaming at my monitor (because im drunk) saying how you guys must not have a clue what ur talking about.. until i consider that im the idiot, and re-examine the hand.. and realize player has invested virtually NO money, and two people are already shoved all in.. which i didnt see before(because im so drunk). MIT, you guys.. man.. i take back what i yelled at you. and im going to apoligize to my monitor too.. you know, the monitor takes most of the blame for what the computer does anyways. thats it, ima treat my monitor with respect! well, nvmind.. it has a terrible aspect ratio. its a fucking PERFECT. SQUARE. COME ON!! WHY GOD WHY?!?! (im not religious, i only did it for the lulz) #NoOneWillReadThis #ImDeadInside

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому

      your cool to me, and i love you too man

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому

      awe thankx,you know that really means alot :'3

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому

      *WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!?*

    • @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur
      @AVERYhornyMrDinosaur 6 років тому +1

      _BEAKFAST!_

    • @321seb
      @321seb 5 років тому +1

      i know this is old but please talk with someone about feeling dead inside. you’ll be surprised how many suffer in silence, and they will often have common ground. i hope you’re doing better now

  • @murat_n
    @murat_n 4 роки тому +2

    You guys have to watch a how to make a video video before talking about poker theory.

  • @mikefekade12
    @mikefekade12 8 років тому +4

    "Even if you have kings...that's a fold" get this guy outta here

    • @Levi-ez2od
      @Levi-ez2od 8 років тому

      payouts are like what? 30 40 60 or something? you know what AQ suited is good enough.

    • @willguggn2
      @willguggn2 8 років тому

      +john smith
      No.
      Look up ICM.

    • @vp9214a
      @vp9214a 7 років тому +1

      +max hodges Dude, if you fold KK there, you are fuckin nuts. Also the situation is unrealistic to begin with. Chip leader pushes from UTG with three behind at the final table? When the fuck would that ever happen? He opens up with an actual raise, Villian 6 pushes. You then fold AQs, but KK? Get the fuck out of here.

    • @savdean9783
      @savdean9783 7 років тому +1

      In calculating EV, what was the used probability of winning supposing one player got KO and you were heads up with a 1:7 stack? If the lecturer used a 50/50 he is an idiot. Not enough information given to make an accurate decision yet, despite what was proposed by the lecturer.

    • @adrianpeirson5027
      @adrianpeirson5027 7 років тому

      I thin he wanted to cash. I've folded aces to cash.

  • @SmartPhone-tv4qi
    @SmartPhone-tv4qi 2 роки тому

    another bullshit about playing on small blind ofcourse it does matter who folded against you and of course it matters what you will do as there's another player after and your move will affect his decision

  • @stuungar4034
    @stuungar4034 8 років тому

    ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzz

  • @davidbone3314
    @davidbone3314 6 років тому

    I don’t like this kind of poker

  • @daniellugo4272
    @daniellugo4272 8 років тому

    When they will make a roulette and lotto theory? LOL

    • @rossegDoesMC
      @rossegDoesMC 7 років тому +3

      There is no theory to roulette and lotto. impossible to beat those games long term. However, in poker if you consistently make decisions that have positive expectation you will win money in the long run.

  • @deepthrux99
    @deepthrux99 10 місяців тому

    Nerd

  • @Seducier
    @Seducier 7 років тому

    pseudo science?

    • @rossegDoesMC
      @rossegDoesMC 7 років тому +3

      no, math and game strategy

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 років тому +3

      No, statistics and probability on a game of incomplete information.

  • @HDsharp
    @HDsharp 6 років тому

    Why are these lecturers so boring?

  • @godwatcher3372
    @godwatcher3372 7 років тому +6

    tracking software should be illegal

    • @FelipeV3444
      @FelipeV3444 6 років тому +2

      shut up

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 6 років тому

      Would be same as making alcohol or even pot illegal... Impossible to police

    • @r0nb0h0ju
      @r0nb0h0ju 5 років тому

      pot is illegal most places, and is policed...

    • @yungtube7848
      @yungtube7848 16 днів тому

      ​@@r0nb0h0juand its still around in those places

  • @msr3937
    @msr3937 2 місяці тому

    Stop saying um so much, try to pause instead

  • @ErnestHwang
    @ErnestHwang 8 років тому

    Hasn't MIT heard of whiteboards? You guys are using chalkboards ffs?

    • @DanA-st2ed
      @DanA-st2ed 8 років тому +7

      +Ernest Hwang _ Have you heard of MIT? Some of the greatest minds of this century have written on those boards ffs

    • @simplebob40
      @simplebob40 7 років тому +2

      Chalkboards WORK !
      After the X time someone uses a non erasable pen on a whiteboard you'll wish for a chalkboard. AND chalkboards aren't as messy as whiteboards. If you get chalk somewhere - no problem. Those markers on the other hand.
      To sum it all up - whiteboards are for posers, chalkboards are for those who know better.

    • @adrianpeirson5027
      @adrianpeirson5027 7 років тому

      No I haven't :)

  • @camouflageproductions9650
    @camouflageproductions9650 6 років тому

    This poker class SUCKS and doesn't teach good POKER!

  • @TOYCH
    @TOYCH 2 роки тому +2

    For this course we'll need you to subscribe to poker tracker. Student: What's the cost? Professor's Assistant: It's only $79.99 for the duration of the course.

    • @Villaintrader12
      @Villaintrader12 2 роки тому +1

      You’re likely to have to purchase a $60+ book when you go to university for each one of the classes you take

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS 2 роки тому

      they paid their tuition only to sit through and hour long commercial! lol college dummies at their finest