George R. R. Martin & Robin Hobb - EXCLUSIVE EVENT!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2014
- Ultimate fantasy duo, George R. R. Martin & Robin Hobb were speaking together at a world exclusive event which blinkbox Books were proud to sponsor.
We're incredibly excited to share with you our exclusive video footage of the event in this full replay.
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Robin Hobb isn't as famous as George RR Martin, but her Farseer Trilogy and all the following trilogies are fantastic and my favorite books ever. She is especially amazing at creating complicated villains and heroes and in-between characters
Hannah Martin Hopefully there will be a trilogy that will feature a future Fitz, Nettle and Co. I am also curious how many centuries Fitz will be alive because of his 'healing'.
I don't know, I'd prefer Mark Lawrence. Not as famous but pretty good in his POV style of writing.
Hannah Martin I started to read her books because of this interview... too bad that I wouldn't read her because of George. I'm in love with her world as well as I love Martin's world. She should get more recognition.
Geédes Santos Do you think a TV show of the Elderling realm would be as good+popular (there *is* a difference between good and popular) as the GoT one? It would be difficult to figure out voicing the communication between Nighteyes and Fitz, as well as how to show Skilling without making it look cheesy, but with the right CGI you can do anything
Hannah Martin maybe, yeah, although it's very hard to find good CGI in a TV show. But it would be awesome if they didn't stayed so focused in Fitz, and followed more the minors. The story is full of conflicts that would be perfect for TV.
If you haven't read Robin Hobb, it is a must.
Where should I start?
@@bmoneybby The Royal Assassin trilogy
*Trilogy is actually titled the Farseer Trilogy
Robin Hobb doesn't get nearly enough respect on her name. she's such a brilliant author
Robin is the queen of fantasy. I just finished the last book and cried for over 40 minutes, full blown sobbing. no characters in tv/movies/books have stuck with me more then Fitz, beloved and nighteyes. I see them as old friends.
I might read those books now just because of your comment... :)
Just finished the second farseer and I'm already too emotionally invested!!
Nighteyes? I see him as hairy. And drooling.
The last few chapters of assassins fate..took me awhile to read. I was crying so much I had to stop every few paragraphs
Ditto ❤️
The works of Robin Hobb changed the way I see the world, and the people who live in it.
The third person on stage is Jane Johnson, and she's a novelist in her own right, as well as editing RH and GRRM's books.
She is in the Lord of the Rings extended edition dvd features isn’t she? Doesn’t she work for (at one point) Tolkien’s publisher? I knew I recognized her voice! What a career she’s had!
What they said at 27:00 really struck a chord. Robin Hobb's Tawny Man trilogy did that for me, it was such a personal experience. When I finished the books I was pretty much going through the stages of grief but nobody around me could understand, even if they'd read the books, because their experience had not been the same as mine. It's a beautiful thing! But can be frustrating too.
Robin Hobb is so adorable. I'm going to buy her books.
Just finished the third Farseer trilogy ("Fool's Fate" final volume) and Robin Hobb now stands head and shoulders above any fantasy storyteller I've read. These characters are etched in my mind forever, and in terms of deep human portraits, insights into human nature, vast and convincing world building, and sheer beauty of prose Robin Hobb leaves Tolkien and CS Lewis in the dust, IMO.
She's good, she's not that good.
I share your opinion completely. I don't understand how she isn't as popular as some other fantasy authors.
Easily my favorite fantasy author.
Two of the greatest- yet every single time I watch something like this, I feel a pang of sadness that Robert Jordan couldn't be up there with them.
Ooouw
Even if he was alive he couldn't be among them lmao.
@@leontheamateur1135 I actually like Jordan's world and stories, but I hate his characters.
@@leontheamateur1135
It amazes me that one could appreciate the narrative and character writing abilities of Martin and Hobb and yet be unable to see why Jordan doesn't compare to them. Maybe childhood sentimentality or something? I tried reading the wheel of time and was confused as to why it was such a popular series. Absolute shit. Unimpressive writing and gimmicky, one dimensional characters.
@@ibrahimtall6209 The simple answer is taste. I for example liked farseer fine, but for me it's nowhere near The Wheel of Time. Not in Worldbuilding not in plot and not in character. For you it's the other way around, and that's O.K. What's not O.K. is the language you use to devaluate the work of Mr. Jordan. There is no need to talk it down like this, especially when you obviously didn't read the whole thing and didn't understand the part you actually read (as you were, by your own account, confused).
Only just started reading Robin Hobb (I know I'm very late to the party), but she is just incredible! Very quickly becoming one of my favorite authors ever.
I'd suggest the farseer trilogy/fitz and the fool trilogy to anyone. Robin Hobb is definitely one of my favourite authors. The Rainwild Chronicles are also pretty awesome.
Don't forget the liveship trilogy!
The Liveship trilogy is pretty easily her best work I think...just brilliant.
the rainwild is a character piece if i've ever seen one
The Liveship Traders Trilogy is just absolutely incredible. My favourite series
@@NPA1001 7 years later I still have those books on my shelf.
Two absolute legends, love listening to them speak.
Martin: "If you get stuck, have someone come through the door with a gun. of course that would be really weird in westeros if someone came through the door with a gun."
*tywin lannister looks up from the privy as tyrion comes through the door with a crossbow*
A crossbow is a weapon, not a gun.
Really? Did you not get it? Are you arguing semantics just to argue semantics?
Let me explain it to you because you're... I don't even know if you're trolling or you're really that stupid. If you're trolling, great. 10/10. Yes, I mad.
There's no guns in Westeros. Martin himself said it would be weird if someone came through the door with a gun. But in Westeros, there ARE crossbows. So Martin did the next best thing and had Tyrion come through the door with a crossbow.
Karl Berg Hate to break it to you... but guns are also weapons.
59:59 For those looking for a timestamp.
A storm of sword was released in 2000 or late 90s?
As soon as they mentioned Nighteyes....even years later. *sniff*
I'm not crying, you're crying!
Don't spoil...
I heard so much about Robin Hobb but never had read her work...so many books to read.I simply love the fantasy genre :)
King and Queen of the world
I just finished the entire Elderlings series and came here. I am beyond words. To have been with Fitz, to meet all this wonderful characters, and to say goodbye. They will always be with me, specially in sunny days were one may lay with their belly facing up, or starry nights of game
George literally talking about how he could never finish any of his writing is a great omen
i love that GRRM sits in that throne chair like he's the king, you know or a god ;)
I started tearing up just reading all the comments!! The absolute love I have for Robin Hobb is shocking. I’ve always been a reader of Classics. But I wanted to change it up just a bit BUT-
It’s 2024. I started the Realm of the Elderlings a month ago and I’m on book 6. The Ship of Destiny. I’m so stuck in!! Gobsmacked at how beautiful her writing is!!
I’ve already bought all 19 books, plus Piebald Prince. All on my bookshelf except SoD. Of course. lol😍
Each of them are in phenomenal company. Mad respect for them both and Jane of course too!! ❤
These authors are worthy of respect and admiration.
Robin Hobb is my hero....
Or Heroine
That was such a great applause at the end. You could tell during this entire interview all the people in the audience were so engaged and intrigued with what George and Robin had to say
Got tears to me eyes. Closest experience for me of thanking them.
Robin HOBB / Megan is one of my favourite authors. Love her!
I love how George is arguably the more popular author what with his books being adapted to mainstream tv on HBO
and all the comments are singing the praises of Robin Hobb (it defiantly helps that she actually finished her story)
I absolutely loved this interview. It's always a bit encouraging to see that even the ultimate fantasy duo has a hard time with first drafts. I love when GRRM says: "I made myself actually start finishing these stories no matter how much I hated, loathed, and despised them."
I think the appeal of being a writer is that you get to lock yourself away and more or less write what you want to write. I think of writing in an isolated cabin next to a fireplace. To a certain degree writers are professionally trained daydreamers. At the end of the day whether you get paid or not you still have your book. Most jobs give you nothing but money. There is perhaps no greater combination of solitude and imagination than in writing fiction.
Retro Controller thoughts the same hahaha ... Or bring a friend
That's exactly what always appealed to me about being a writer. Too bad I'm not!
You'll always find a way to provrastinate
@@hououinkymeowma2381When it's in you to create you just do it.
Both of these authors are the reason for a huge amount of my anguish over waiting for a book to be finished. I love their work from the bottom of my heart, but especially with Hobb I feel I will never get to read the finished Death Scent story arc.
I always learn something new about writing or storytelling from George whenever he gives a long-form interview so this was great as ever. It was also interesting to hear from Robin Hobb, an author I'm not familiar with but would like to learn more about through her work - she had some great advice too!
You should definitely check out Robin Hobb's books! I found her sometime after reading A Song of Ice and Fire series and I couldn't believe I went so long not having read any of her writing! Her first trilogy in the Realm of the Elderlings series is the Farseer trilogy, and the first book of that trilogy is Assassin's Apprentice.
Robin Hobb’s writing is so beautiful and unique. Her Realm of the Elderlings books are the most wonderful books I ever had the good fortune to stumble across. If you enjoy nature, magic, wolves, dragons, fairytales and character driven stories these books are a must. I consider myself a slow reader but without effort I read all 16 books in her RotE series in 2 months because they were so compelling and the need to know what happened to the characters was beyond anything else I have read before. I only wish I had found this series sooner.
Blinkbox Books presents: Hobb and Martin
I want to adopt George as my grandpa. How do...how do I make that happen?
+ijeleo92
lol. your mom or dad has to figure out how to adopt him as their dad
ijeleo92 you'd get some crazy good bedtime stories
Fools Assassin, Amazing book, broke my heart and wish the book didn't end as it did but just makes me look forward the the next installment even more.
I got very excited for the next book with that ending ^^
How they can come up these vast worlds is just so amazing. They breath such life.
Fantasitic talk -- I will definitely check out Hobbs's books, she's unknown to me, thought won't be for long.
its interesting George's stance on him being a celebrity. I watch his interviews, and like this one, it's like his emotional response to the questions is "why does anyone care about my answer to this?" or like "I've answered this a million times"
I’m really enjoying Robin Hobb’s Assassin’s Apprentice I just started it I can’t wait to read a book that’s been acclaimed by GRRM.
Would love to see a series on Robin hobb’s books currently on Assassins quest about 150 pages from the end and still loving the series looking forward to liveship traders next follow by tawny man (however it’s spelt),rain wild chronicles & fitz and the fool trilogies etc
Mr. George is just as articulate and humorous in person🤓📑 whereas Marge-alias-Robin is more of an introverted genius.🧐
To those who put this together, thank you so much. Wonderful insight into the minds of two amazing authors.
ASOIAF is interesting, but The Royal Assassin makes my heart beat faster, to see what one person can go through, not just suffering but also purpose and accomplishment.
ASOIAF has just too many deaths, whereas deaths in TRA are heartbreaking, they're all beautifully written and when they happen you don't just think "what will this cause ?" but "how will people feel now ?".
I'm putting in a good word for Robin Hobb's earlier work, published under her real name of Megan Lindholm.
They're clever and inventive. Did you know weather magic is inevitably political? Check out her Windsinger books. Also, if you're tired of the usual excuses for a main character to get into trouble, those books have a teamster who hauls things for money. It's just that the things might be a living wizard divided into several boxes.
Cloven Hooves has a satyr-- a member of a species of parthenogenic males with the ability to generate custom pheromones. The book is depressing as all hell, but smart and unforgettable.
Wizard of the Pigeons is about a vet living on the streets with an interesting mix of powers and restrictions.
BTW, her real name is Margaret Astrid Lindholm Ogden. Meghan is another pen name :)
And yes, she's on my TBR. I've heard some amazing things about her stories.
My wolves are bigger 😂 GRRM
I think that woman (hostess) says in one of the documentaries on the Lord of the Rings DVDs that the scene with Boromir in the Misty Mountains that reflects on the thematic significance of the Ring "is never done in the books". However, that scene was directly transplanted from Amon Hen. Gotcha!
cerevor fuck off
@@draco8152 Dim-witted degenerate.
Yes, she appeared as a "Tolkien expert" in the extras.
Ahh. There they are. The creators of Joffrey and Regal.
I have only read 2 books in the Farseer trilogy. Please don’t spoil me.
Important Charachter dies
John Dies at the End ... is pretty cool book. And you really need to read the rest of Robin Hobbs books. So worth it.
The GOATS
Brilliant to see this. Thanks for uploading.
I was sad that George hadn't read the rainwild chronicles, or else he would know that there ARE true dragons in Robin's world.
Ummm there are true dragons in Liveship Traders and we know he's read those sooooo, yeah. He probably just forgot.
Fantastic! Thanks so much!
Thanks for posting the video.
I can actually relate to a lot of this as a musician and not a writer, I guess there are some universal truths there
Loved it!
How kind you can tell that hat was important to him he really did go everywhere with that hat
Thanks !
"My wolves are bigger though." 😂
Nighteyes approves of this.
Loved this!
21:00 Similar thing good ol' Christopher Hitchens always used to say!
1:18:32 The sweetest voice ever
great video. Two authors worth reading try and explain how they do what they do.
Farseer Trilogy ended somewhat disappointedly for me but Royal Assassin is a 11/10 book!
I look at the Farseer Trilogy is actually the prologue of a very grand adventure.
The first time i cried reading a book was when i read the fitz and fool 1
Robin looks like if Ronda Rousey changed from martial arts to literary arts.
Christ, you're right.
Rosanne Barr
... Alright I'll say it. Wear a Santa hat.
4:35
"Some cosplayers look more like me than I do."
=> Added to the list of my favorite quotes.
I know!
+ "my early stories were an endless number of beginnings" lol
1:11:33 - Thomas Pynchon
no es posible encontrar una version subtitulada?
"They were all beginnings.." lmao
George from the hood. Hell ya
I hope George will live a long time.
Kennit.. the 'best' villain!
This is great! Robin Hobb is also one of my most favorite writers!! I love The Farseer group of books! In the first book (which came out before GRRM's first Got book) she had some characters, who had the ability to bond with an animal and could then communicate/talk with them, in a telepathic way. These people could also, leave their own body, enter their bond animal's mind and exist together within the animal's mind/body. If a person stayed too long inside their animal, they would eventually lose their "human-ness" and become one with their animal's mind, essentially becoming that type of animal. Then, eventually they would become unable to return to their human body. (what GRRM calls "worging" in his book) I had wondered if GRRM, had gotten that idea from Robin's book series or just somehow came up with that same idea, unaware that she already had characters in her books, that could do exactly that.
The concept is widely known in mythology and part of many ancient cultures-- so with their educational backgrounds they would have both learned of it independently.
I agree with George that if you are thinking of being a writer then you should ask yourself if you would still do it knowing you will never be noticed. Personally I take one trip to a larger size library and think, "Does the world really need another book?"
Yes. Because once all the stories are read, we'll need more.
+Di Lung Move it Ya Fool!
ooh that's a clever one. just as long as they don't make any more books like fifty shades or twilight or vampire diaries.
Maggy Frog
Those will continually be written, publishers will do what's popular.
Di Lung Move it Ya Fool!
there should be an annual bonfire of the rubbish pile. lol
@@maggyfrog Nah,we need more books like Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey so we know what NOT to do when we write (:
I’ve always found GRRM great to listen to.
Subtitulada!
Add Sanderson sitting next to them and you have the Golden Trio of modern epic fantasy
No. Sanderson is a peasant compared to these royals.
@@coleton7048 That is extremely idiotic. Stormlight Archive is already an S tier fantasy, up there with A Song of Ice and Fire, Lord of the Rings, The Wheel of Time, etc. And this is coming from the biggest A Song of Ice and Fire fan in the world.
@@Divinemakyr Lol. Well, that's your opinion. That doesn't make it true. I tried three of his series and can't get past any of the first books. Putting it up there with Martin and Tolkien is laughable for me.
@@cst256 Well then you have a problem, maybe you're merely used to the more complicated writing styles of Martin, or the more poetic writing styles of Tolkien, and not used to the simple, easy writing style of Sanderson. But throughout the fantasy community, its widely accepted that Sanderson is up there with the big bois.
@@Divinemakyr Yeah it's possible I have a problem. It's also a possibility that you have a problem or the "fantasy community". It's my opinion against yours and nothing can make mine or yours more correct. Just don't assume things are true because you think so.
these thrones suit them)
Maybe GRRM is more famous (particularly because of TV) but for sure he is not better in any means than Robin Hobb. And by now we know… we know.. she at least finishes her books. Yes, it had to be said.
If you’re into George then you will most likely love Robin Hobb. I’m far more attached to the characters in her books than I am his. The GOT books never moved me so much that I cried but the Realm of the Elderlings got me a few times. I’ve read the series twice and am listening to the audiobooks currently for the second time. Ugh....it’s SO good! You know how it is when you recommend books to friends and you’re jealous that they are gonna get to experience it for the first time? Well that’s how I feel about her books🥰
$629.70 is what GRRM's $94 would be in today's money.
Such a weird question from that audience member who considers Tyrion to be an 'underdog' and didn't have 'the best start in life.' Tyrion's the son of the richest man in the seven kingdoms! Here's the dude who walks into an inn with no vacancy, and buys someone else's room with gold! How is he even remotely considered an underdog? Sure, he can't reach the top shelves, but in terms of socio-economic class he's insanely well off. He's the 1% of Westeros.
His only advantage is that he is a Lannister and even then, if he was not smart, he would have been killed long time ago. He is an underdog in the sense that he is a dwarf and even though it is not an issue now, back in the Middle Age, such people were a shame for the families that had them. They were considered useless and shameful.
Well, yeah, that's my point. Being a Lannister is his only advantage... but it's such an ENORMOUS advantage that it covers the whole thing with being a dwarf and then some. Sure, Daddy Tywin considers him useless and shameful... but Tyrion is gainfully employed as Cistern and Drain Manager at Casterly Rock and his purse is still filled from the family coffers and he travels with multiple men-at-arms. It's not like he's been disowned and sent to the Wall like a certain other "useless and shameful" lord's son. If it weren't for him randomly running into Catelyn at the Crossroads and she got like 20 men to help her kidnap him, he wouldn't be in much danger at all.
Dwarves in generall in Westeros are underdogs, yes. But Tyrion in particular is not an underdog, even if he happens to be a dwarf, because of his overwhelmingly powerful family.
Yeah, can't argue with that. He is freaking lucky when compared to almost all men in Westeros and now imagine how lucky he is as compared he is to Fitz! Now, that's an underdog!
Indeed! Like I said, Tyrion is the 1% of Westeros.
Don't know much about Fitz though. T_T
Well what about in terms of becoming King? I think a poor man is more likely than a dwarf to become king. In a way there is not much more of a disadvantage.
I never read or seen Game of Thrones because I didn't want it to influence my own work. Its success intimidated me and I came to dislike Martin (for no real reason). But as soon as I started watching his interviews this year, I found my inspiration and motivation to keep creating and world building. So what I allowed to be my biggest deterrent became my biggest motivation. So thanks George.
Kill Screen thanks man.
With a name like yours, I can see why you would fear his shadow
Cool. I was 'like' #1000!
did grrm include william faulkner nobel's speech reference? I am not watching it without that!
Hahaha - yeah, overkill. An hour in and no “human heart in conflict” yet though... Pretty miraculous
5:29 Robin is just like wtf kind of a question is that???????????
@1:22:29 Holy fuck that scared the shit out of me.
48:50 that's interesting.. but i need subtitles.
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..and?
‘Robert A. Heinlein's "Have Space Suit-Will Travel", the first science fiction book I ever read. Great book, still. One of Heinlein's- the best of Heinlein's juveniles, and one of the 3 or 4 best that Heinlein ever did, and he remains one of the greatest science fiction authors of all time.’
@@TeddyBearBonfire Thank you!
what if this guy is a double of a real George Martin who actually stayed anonymous?
6:52 The woman is right though.
in case ur wondering, its about 420 dollars now
George ist erlich und schlau
Finish the book, George.
Louis Theroux at 1:10:28 lol
GRRM is so right about the English (and later British) Kings, sure they've broadened from Henry and Edward (and the occasional Richard) but just look at the current line of succession Charles -> William -> George, all names that had already been used by multiple previous Monarchs.
Charlotte is new, right?
DaManWithDaSword There was a Queen Consort by the name of Charlotte, the wife of George III (the King during the American Revolution). Besides she comes after her older brother, and once he has children of his own she'll move further down the line, just as Charles' brothers and sister have.
Well. Sweden have 16 Karl 🙂
27:30
Having read both of authors here. I much prefer Robin Hobb as the superior of the two.
I’d never finished any of my early stories... THATS NOT A GOOD SIGN 😂 George knows he’s wrecked in that moment
George apparently forgot about rule #2
I really enjoyed this. Thank you very much. It was fun, informative and interesting. Definitely will check out Robin who is new to me. Excellent interviewer too.