To those interested, this video was originally created to appear on an episode of The Haunted Saloon, an internet TV show produced by my friend Terry "Ike" Clanton, a descendent cousin of Ike Clanton of OK Corral fame. A large number of my friends are interested in old west history and we visit Tombstone regularly. The death of Johnny Ringo is one of the popular mysteries that remain unsolved today, with many theories that attempt to explain how he died with his gun belt on upside down, his feet wrapped in a torn undershirt, his boots hung on the saddle of his horse that was found miles away, the gun found nearby not the gun he was known to carry, and other weird circumstances. Will we ever know what exactly happened? Probably not. Circumstance indicates that he either committed suicide or was murdered by Buckskin Frank Leslie. Wyatt Earp claimed that he and Doc Holliday did the deed but that is highly unlikely. Perhaps this information will answer the questions some people have regarding this video.
Great video, but I've always wondered about something. If they were to exhume Ringo's body, couldn't they use modern forensic techniques to address the question? Certainly they could determine the caliber of the bullet that killed him, and the precise direction the bullet traveled, which would reveal a lot. If any of his hair survives, couldn't they determine his blood alcohol level? And I think it's also possible that if Ringo pulled the trigger, there might be traces of powder on his skull. I think it would be worth the effort to exhume his body, for exactly these reasons.
I doubt that much of Ringo's body would remain today, other than a skeleton. His body was dumped into a quickly dug grave just a few feet from that tree. At the time his body was discovered, he had been exposed to the sun or a day or two and his face was burned black, according to those who investigated the scene. There is a theory that he was first shot with a rifle and that the killer(s) then propped his body up onto the tree and used his gun to shoot a separate bullet through the same bullet hole in his skull in order to make it look like suicide. Perhaps an examination of his skull might prove or disprove that theory.
Thanks for the response! I visited John Ringo's grave just a couple of weeks ago, and I'm fascinated by "The Gunfighter Who Never Was." Certainly nothing would be left but a skeleton. I doubt he was put in a coffin, nor buried especially deep. But traces of his hair might remain. I'm sure it will never happen, but I think a forensic examination of his remains would be fascinating!
I think he just shot himself. I doubt people were too worried about covering their trail. The law was pretty ignorant back then. Most murders were unsolved.
The actual tree is still in its place. Something that’s physically still here, that we can touch and in a small way be connected to the past. That in its self is amazing .
I grew up in the 1930s back east listening to old timers and i mean old timers aged from 60 to 100+ years. Stories they told of their experiences in the east, west during the civil war and indian fights were fantastic and educational and about 90% of them factually verified later by historians and archaeologists. You can learn a lot more when hearing things from people who personally experienced them is more interesting than reading someone's perspective of the event. I was blessed to encounter these old timers and couldn't get enough of their knowledge. From the day i was old enough to understand things I've always looked forward to listening to old timers stories regardless of who they were or the story they told. If kids today took the opportunity to listen to the experiences of old timers they would be much better off.
Fuck you..500 comments are doc holliday kill johhny ringo or Doc or I saw in the movie. You have not seen nothing and you dont know nothnig stupid people
+Kenna Keeton - Very true, but the Sanders family who live on the property now, and whose ancestors did at the time of Ringo's death will tell you that Buckskin Frank Leslie did it.
Did they find John Ringo with his pearl handled guns? Seems that whoever he met His End with would have taken those valuable guns? I was left a broken Pearl handled Colt DA .41 caliber pistol and as my Understanding- a standard colt pistol was $5.00. A pearl handled one with nickel plating was $15.00. The balance on these Colts is unbelievable!. RH DSD
I had read in a book a few years back when I was in Cimmaron, New Mexico, staying at the St James Hotel. That Johnny Ringo had just bought a 2,500 acre ranch in partnership with Ike Clanton on the Arizona/ New Mexico border. It said there were court records and deed filings. A new business venture makes suicide seem unlikely to me.
suicide at all for that day and age or for a person like that seems impossible. I wish i had a time machine so i could watch history. Even if i could only see it but not change it I'd still be into seeing history like that. Could you imagine a technology like that? I clearly digress.
My money is on Leslie. He had opportunity and motive. The gun with Ringo was also incosistent with what he normally carried but it was correct in being the type that Leslie carried. Billy Claibourne did claim that Buckskin Frank killed Ringo, so there's that. Leslie never claimed to do it. You'd think it would be in his favor to say that he did, except for the fact that there were still Plenty of the cowboy faction around to which Johnny was a memeber. Frank wasn't afraid to kill someome. It wasn't his first trip around that block. ;)
Just the fact that Ringo was shot once in the head tells me that he probably shot himself. It's hard to believe anyone in the Earp faction would have found him alone in the wild and only shot him once, and the same goes for any of the men who had a real grudge against him. Add this to the fact that he witnessed his own father shoot himself in the head and this seems even more certain.
That's a bunch of bulshit if any of them wanted to fight him they would have done it the three times they back down in town they asked a hundred local people two or three said it was suicide the other 97 or 98 said it was definitely Buckskin Frank Leslie Doc Holliday was nowhere near Arizona and neither was Wyatt Earp where murder charges were waiting
Holiday never appeared in court and Wyatt was supposedly missing missing week Ringo died... There is your answer, and it was also confirmed by Marcus (Wyatt's wife) numerous times that they went back to finish the job once Ringo returned to Tombstone.
Fact: Doc Holliday was in Colorado when Ringo died, and many years later Wyatt Earp admitted to his biographer Stuart Lake that he found Ringo in a drunken sleep against an oak tree outside of Tombstone and shot him in the head.
I don't think Wyatt Earp killed him I wonder if the last person to see him alive killed him I think this is a cold case that would be very interesting for them to find out the truth
@@loj1k829 That is absolutely not true. "Huckleberry" is in the original screenplay. It is an old Southern expression, originally something of an insult but later simply meaning "guy" or "man" as in "I'm your guy." Glenn Ford uses a similar phrase in a 1950's western - "Let's go have a talk with that huckleberry."
@@billmarq however huckle bearer is still a southern term for pall bearer. Berry was used in film yes, but also could of been dual meaning from director/writers. Just a clever way of saying two words that both work for situation.
Ringo was a hopeless drunk. He was broke. All his friends were dead. When his horse took off with his boots, he said "Ah fuck it" and blew his brains out.
Ringo. Earp and Holliday were in Gunnison Colorado at time of Ringo's death. Judging Ringo by today's DSN IV he was a raging full tilt drunk and manic depressive. I'm a.longterm recovering drunk and recognize some of his behavior patterns.
Kirk Douglass killed Johnny Ringo. I saw him do it. Douglass sees Johnny through a window like opening of a barn, Johnny is in the barn. Douglass shouts "RINGO", AS Johnny spins to face the opening, Douglass gives it to him in the belly.
My real name is Buckskin Frank Leslie and I'm outraged by these slanderous lies. Johnny Ringo shot himself forty-seven times in the same hole in his head. He then partially undressed himself and reloaded his weapons. I seen him do it.
I think Johnny Ringo did kill himself. If someone shot him they would brag about it and there wouldn’t be any question. Boys can’t keep a damn secret like that to save their lives. Johnny was a deep thinker and had a troublesome life. He had just spent days drinking and his depression overwhelmed him. Let him rest in peace ❤
For anyone curious, Johnny Ringo was born in Greensfork, Indiana, a town that I know well, and I still have cousins who live there. I used to fish in Morgan Creek, running very close to Greensfork many times growing up, clear into my junior high school days. It's a small, sleepy little hamlet, with maybe 500-1000 people at most even today.
From what I've read about John Ringold he was most likely shot from a long distance, rifle distance, because he was really fast with his pistols and just anyone wasn't going to take him. The flap of skin on his temple is most likely the result of the bullet coming out sideways or keyhole.
You have bought into the false "Hollywood" narrative that all famous gunmen and mankillers were quick-draw artists, which is bs ! There were no fast-draw wizards ! Do the research, ,plenty of books with photos of the time that show hoglegs were worn high on the waist, in big holsters that swallowed the sixgun. You ain't gonna speed draw from such a rig ! As Wyatt Earp said , "the real killers who pulled a gun , took their time , in a hurry." Another good source of how guns were worn is the "Who Wore What in the American West" site.
Doc Holiday never appeared in court in Colorado. His council postponed the hearing for the week after, hence he had plenty of time to rough up Ike Clanton and meet up with Johnnie Ringo
I'm gonna go with Doc Holiday. He just had a good alibi. If you killed someone and was speculated, you best believe to say you were out of town when it happened.
Eric Dizzy , I don’t think it was Doc. He wasn’t a cold blooded killer by any means.He Actually cried after the gunfight behind the OK corral. Along with the fact that he had a court appearance in another state at that time.
@@shawnglass108 His court appearance in Trinidad, Colorado was handled by his attorney. That was the custom at the time. Also noted that Bat Masterson, a good friend of Doc's, was the sheriff of Trinidad at that time. Good alibi.
Gentlemen, I just picked up some dirt *really* close to Johnny's grave, I'd like to get working a little museum and stuff for him... um, plans and things... Anyway, I'd *really* like to meet you gentlemen. The property is just rough dirt at the moment, but... yeah, plans. I'm bumping around Sunsites while working on getting the utilities put in; I hope to see you around. ~Abe
The Dec. 14, 1879, edition of the Arizona Daily Star stated: “Last Tuesday a shooting took place at Safford in which Louis Hancock was shot by Johnny Ringo. It appears Ringo wanted Hancock to take a drink of whiskey, and refused, saying he would prefer beer. Ringo then struck him over the head with his pistol and fired, the ball taking effect in the lower end of the ear and passing through the fleshy part of his neck. Half an inch more in the neck would have killed Hancock. Ringo is under arrest.”
The main discrepancy in the theory that Doc or Wyatt couldn't have done it is, that he was last seen on the 11th, so that would leave them two and half days, not one day. Not that I think either of them did, but there's no time of death, so he could have been killed any time between the 11th and the 13th.
Hey guys, I was lucky to of gone there in 94, and it was AWESOME, I was walking along the sidewalk being Wyatt with my gf taking the Mick outta me, but I didn't care, guts you GOTTA GO. if I win the lottery vwe are all going ha ha.
I visited his grave last year, I wonder if he knew someone was walking on his grave. I left him a bottle of whiskey and a 45 cartridge. There was a few dollars left on his stone in tribute it's miles of dirt road to the site, but it was worth the time, at least to me.
I don't believe that Johnny Ringo was quite prepared to find himself mentioned in the same breath as Doc Holliday or Wyatt Earp. He always strikes me as that throw away character authors use to give the protagonist something to do while the larger story is fleshed out. This is not to say that Johnny Ringo didn't bring plenty to the table as he certainly did, in his time and in his way and he definitely had an impact on Wyatt and Doc, but WE can see now what others couldn't see then, that the story was about Wyatt and Doc and could be told without the introduction of Johnny Ringo, whereas the story of Johnny Ringo needs Doc and Wyatt if he is to have any story at all.
I find it..implausible that given the environment of the time that someone will drop Ringo with a rifle and THEN pack up the body, haul it several miles to the spot, and THEN go the additional trouble to prop him up like he committed suicide. That would serve no purpose-at all. This is all supposition, 3rd hand stories and speculation.
We may never know who for sure, but Ringo was killed by someone and most believe it was Frank Leslie. It is recorded that there was no powder burn on the side of his face. This would've been a certainty with cartridges containing black powder. He had to have been shot from a distance.
I just love the old west. I was born 150 years too Damn late . I would love to have been a cowboy in those days . I think I would have been a bounty hunter. Thanks for these great videos.
I bet if you born back then but knew what life would be like now you wouldn't want to be there. You would much rather live in these times rather than back then, life then was a hard life that's why life expectancy is so much longer now than then. I grew up in W Pa. In the 40's & 50's. Take my word for it going to an outsider in the middle of a harsh winter is something I don't wish on anyone but enemies or people I don't like very much.
I'm your huckleberry. Oh, Jonny, you look like somebody just walked right over your grave. Fights not with you Doc. Oh but is it. We started a game that we never got to finish it. Play for blood, remember? I was just fooling. I'm wasn't. Okay Doc, let's do it. Say when. Say when Jonny! Oh poor soul, he was just to high strung.
I remember reading (1) a relative of Earp remembered him and Holiday laughing about killing Ringo and staging the body; (2) I also remember reading that the weapon was hanging from the gun belt, by the hammer closed, like it was cocked, stuck on the belt so the hammer fell on the leather and the gun hung there. I've read many speculations fanned by writers who got paid by the word. True West is no longer a reliable source since it was sold, went slick papered, full of ads, and the writers don't list bibliographies. Secondly, I don't believe that dead tree has lasted nearly 150 yrs!
This is how suicide happens according to psychologists. First there is suicide ideation where you think about it often. Then there is suicide verbalization , when you talk about suicide. Then there is attempted suicide where to do it.
Johnny always talked of suicide & the bullet wound is typical of that. I think if someone else had shot him it would have been to the chest or stomach & more than one shot not a single shot. Seems many cowboys bragged about things they didn't do for reputation. Johnny was drinking liquor & that combined with depression certainly would make him take his own life. People always want to think it was a murder but in those days they wouldn't bother to stage the scene. Sometimes it is what it is. Dude just didn't want to live anymore.
Doc Holiday....lol...What do you think Darling?..Well it reminds me of me....lol...you look somebody who just walk over your "GRAVE."..lol...we started a game we never got to finish...play for blood remember....lol...i loved that movie....are we not friends anymore?....lol...
To those interested, this video was originally created to appear on an episode of The Haunted Saloon, an internet TV show produced by my friend Terry "Ike" Clanton, a descendent cousin of Ike Clanton of OK Corral fame. A large number of my friends are interested in old west history and we visit Tombstone regularly. The death of Johnny Ringo is one of the popular mysteries that remain unsolved today, with many theories that attempt to explain how he died with his gun belt on upside down, his feet wrapped in a torn undershirt, his boots hung on the saddle of his horse that was found miles away, the gun found nearby not the gun he was known to carry, and other weird circumstances. Will we ever know what exactly happened? Probably not. Circumstance indicates that he either committed suicide or was murdered by Buckskin Frank Leslie. Wyatt Earp claimed that he and Doc Holliday did the deed but that is highly unlikely. Perhaps this information will answer the questions some people have regarding this video.
Great video, but I've always wondered about something. If they were to exhume Ringo's body, couldn't they use modern forensic techniques to address the question? Certainly they could determine the caliber of the bullet that killed him, and the precise direction the bullet traveled, which would reveal a lot.
If any of his hair survives, couldn't they determine his blood alcohol level? And I think it's also possible that if Ringo pulled the trigger, there might be traces of powder on his skull.
I think it would be worth the effort to exhume his body, for exactly these reasons.
I doubt that much of Ringo's body would remain today, other than a skeleton. His body was dumped into a quickly dug grave just a few feet from that tree. At the time his body was discovered, he had been exposed to the sun or a day or two and his face was burned black, according to those who investigated the scene. There is a theory that he was first shot with a rifle and that the killer(s) then propped his body up onto the tree and used his gun to shoot a separate bullet through the same bullet hole in his skull in order to make it look like suicide. Perhaps an examination of his skull might prove or disprove that theory.
Thanks for the response!
I visited John Ringo's grave just a couple of weeks ago, and I'm fascinated by "The Gunfighter Who Never Was." Certainly nothing would be left but a skeleton. I doubt he was put in a coffin, nor buried especially deep.
But traces of his hair might remain. I'm sure it will never happen, but I think a forensic examination of his remains would be fascinating!
I think he just shot himself. I doubt people were too worried about covering their trail. The law was pretty ignorant back then. Most murders were unsolved.
So Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday are both liars?
I know for a fact that he was shot in the head by Val Kilmer. I saw it myself.
Me too. Every thing else is a lie.
It was real quick while he was smokin' a spliff.
@@jeaninemartinez5044 BTW, Johnny wasnt much of a daisy.
"C'MON JOHNNY!" "Yew ain't no daisy!"
Headshots are pretty damnmnmnm fatal 🤷🏼♂️👋🏼🤷🏼♂️
Death was marked down as covid 19
The democrats would list it that way, wouldn't they?
Thats funny.
Oh hell yes they would
😂
Covid1882
It was Val Kilmer....Abe Zapruder filmed it.
Apparently Ringo's head went back and to the left, back and to the left.
Lmao 🤣😂 thx for the laugh 😂😆
I think Kilmer directed part of the film
Nice one
Ha ha ha.
Johnny Ringo was killed by Val Kilmer
Val Kilmers Batman killed Johnny ringo.
@@jasonparis5635 Batman doesn't kill...
"Why, Johnny Ringo. Looks like a whole mess of people WALKED over your grave..."
I'm afraid the strain was more than he could bear.
And maybe even pissed on it too.
Why do people qoute things and get them wrong lol
The actual tree is still in its place. Something that’s physically still here, that we can touch and in a small way be connected to the past. That in its self is amazing .
I grew up in the 1930s back east listening to old timers and i mean old timers aged from 60 to 100+ years. Stories they told of their experiences in the east, west during the civil war and indian fights were fantastic and educational and about 90% of them factually verified later by historians and archaeologists. You can learn a lot more when hearing things from people who personally experienced them is more interesting than reading someone's perspective of the event. I was blessed to encounter these old timers and couldn't get enough of their knowledge. From the day i was old enough to understand things I've always looked forward to listening to old timers stories regardless of who they were or the story they told. If kids today took the opportunity to listen to the experiences of old timers they would be much better off.
Fuck you..500 comments are doc holliday kill johhny ringo or Doc or I saw in the movie. You have not seen nothing and you dont know nothnig stupid people
Really appreciate men like you sir who take the time to preserve our history and share it in such a cool and interesting manner. Well done.
"Im your huckleberry"
"Say when"
*shot*
"come on Johnny"
"COME ON!!!"
"you're no daisy at all"
"Poor soul. You were just a little too high strung."
The stress was more than he could bare.
Poor soul. He was just too high-strung....
@@user-qt5eh9wb7g im your huckleberry.
bare
It could have been anyone. Rings was a drunk and a bully. He could have crossed anyone at anytime and got bushwhacked by anybody.
+Kenna Keeton - Very true, but the Sanders family who live on the property now, and whose ancestors did at the time of Ringo's death will tell you that Buckskin Frank Leslie did it.
Kenna Keeton well said
Did they find John Ringo with his pearl handled guns? Seems that whoever he met His End with would have taken those valuable guns? I was left a broken Pearl handled Colt DA .41 caliber pistol and as my Understanding- a standard colt pistol was $5.00. A pearl handled one with nickel plating was $15.00. The balance on these Colts is unbelievable!. RH DSD
Ringo was just foolin! Doc wasn't!
"wow Johnny Ringo you look like someone just walked over your grave"
I had read in a book a few years back when I was in Cimmaron, New Mexico, staying at the St James Hotel. That Johnny Ringo had just bought a 2,500 acre ranch in partnership with Ike Clanton on the Arizona/ New Mexico border. It said there were court records and deed filings. A new business venture makes suicide seem unlikely to me.
suicide at all for that day and age or for a person like that seems impossible. I wish i had a time machine so i could watch history. Even if i could only see it but not change it I'd still be into seeing history like that. Could you imagine a technology like that? I clearly digress.
Irishman checkin in suicide has always been going on.
He's no daisy at all
My money is on Leslie. He had opportunity and motive. The gun with Ringo was also incosistent with what he normally carried but it was correct in being the type that Leslie carried. Billy Claibourne did claim that Buckskin Frank killed Ringo, so there's that. Leslie never claimed to do it. You'd think it would be in his favor to say that he did, except for the fact that there were still Plenty of the cowboy faction around to which Johnny was a memeber. Frank wasn't afraid to kill someome. It wasn't his first trip around that block. ;)
Just the fact that Ringo was shot once in the head tells me that he probably shot himself. It's hard to believe anyone in the Earp faction would have found him alone in the wild and only shot him once, and the same goes for any of the men who had a real grudge against him. Add this to the fact that he witnessed his own father shoot himself in the head and this seems even more certain.
Why Johnny, you look like someone just walked over your grave.
That's a bunch of bulshit if any of them wanted to fight him they would have done it the three times they back down in town they asked a hundred local people two or three said it was suicide the other 97 or 98 said it was definitely Buckskin Frank Leslie Doc Holliday was nowhere near Arizona and neither was Wyatt Earp where murder charges were waiting
Wyaat Earp lived until 1929. Nobody ask him, so what happen to Ringo, who shot him ?? Also he wrote a book named 'My friend Doc Holliday'
This is so great. I realize it was uploaded 10 years ago, but I'm really glad I came across this and the other videos you've uploaded. Thank you.
But isn't it cooler to believe Doc killed him instead?
mrtrek64 Doc holiday was the real person who killed himself
killrr he drank alot and smoked alot he died from tuberculosis
And hence, killed himself.
the truth is real, cool is fake
Shadow Man doc did its just people think he killed himself because. One bullet was shot
Val Kilmer killed him. I mean Doc Holliday did. Yeah I saw him do it! Geez. Its all on video.
Actually I shot him. Feels good to come clean. I shot JR too.
Yeah,me to and I shot doc, the daltons, Jessie James and Fred Flintstone.
what about the sheriff? but I don't think you killed the deputy
@@sjang816 I shot the sheriff, but I swear it was in self-defense
@@robertbishop5357
You shot Fred?
You BASTARD!
I knew it was you!
I doubt the coroner’s jury cared who killed John Ringo. Ringo was a loose cannon in Cochise county. They were glad he was gone
" Evidently Mr Ringo is a educated man.. now I really hate him"
Everybody knows "DOC' Holiday shot Ringo! These people didn't see the movie!!
Holiday never appeared in court and Wyatt was supposedly missing missing week Ringo died... There is your answer, and it was also confirmed by Marcus (Wyatt's wife) numerous times that they went back to finish the job once Ringo returned to Tombstone.
I don't think there's any good evidence that Wyatt or Doc ever went anywhere near Arizona again once they left.
whip not with a rifle from a distance. Straight up gun fight though, yes your right
Nope it was Doc Holiday I actually saw him do it
Doc Holliday killed Johnny Ringo, I saw it on TV. The rest is history.
"Look darling. It's Johnny Ringo."
Well, one thing’s for sure: He was no daisy, and he had plenty of huckleberries aching to help him catch some lead in the head.
They can argue all they like, but they were not there when it happened, in fact we were Not even born when it happened!! I rest my Case
I really hope it was Doc Holliday
Fact: Doc Holliday was in Colorado when Ringo died, and many years later Wyatt Earp admitted to his biographer Stuart Lake that he found Ringo in a drunken sleep against an oak tree outside of Tombstone and shot him in the head.
Earp was known to lie and embellish just about every aspect of his life especially when he moved to LA
I don't think Wyatt Earp killed him I wonder if the last person to see him alive killed him I think this is a cold case that would be very interesting for them to find out the truth
Wyatt Earp was nowhere near Arizona Territory when Ringo was killed, that is historical fact.
Everybody knows Doc Holiday shot him. “I’m your Huckleberry.”
At that scene he was meant to say hucklebearer
Carl Weiser - That would’ve been one record, long-ass shot, from Colorado.
You’re no daisy !
@@loj1k829 That is absolutely not true. "Huckleberry" is in the original screenplay. It is an old Southern expression, originally something of an insult but later simply meaning "guy" or "man" as in "I'm your guy." Glenn Ford uses a similar phrase in a 1950's western - "Let's go have a talk with that huckleberry."
@@billmarq however huckle bearer is still a southern term for pall bearer. Berry was used in film yes, but also could of been dual meaning from director/writers. Just a clever way of saying two words that both work for situation.
I know who killed ringo....it was Val Kilmer
Lol! Sure enough!
I agree with you, I saw it my very own eyes 👀
Lmao 😂
@@roramos5913 good to know i wasn't the only witnss
@@roramos5913 .
Maybe Ringo had info on Hillary Clinton!
He was so sexy when he was younger.
He was just to high strung
We all saw Tombstone, we know that was a documentary
Ringo was a hopeless drunk. He was broke. All his friends were dead. When his horse took off with his boots, he said "Ah fuck it" and blew his brains out.
Ringo. Earp and Holliday were in Gunnison Colorado at time of Ringo's death. Judging Ringo by today's DSN IV he was a raging full tilt drunk and manic depressive. I'm a.longterm recovering drunk and recognize some of his behavior patterns.
DSM
@@NoticerOfficial ok you win
Kirk Douglass killed Johnny Ringo. I saw him do it. Douglass sees Johnny through a window like opening of a barn, Johnny is in the barn. Douglass shouts "RINGO", AS Johnny spins to face the opening, Douglass gives it to him in the belly.
My real name is Buckskin Frank Leslie and I'm outraged by these slanderous lies. Johnny Ringo shot himself forty-seven times in the same hole in his head. He then partially undressed himself and reloaded his weapons. I seen him do it.
But, I saw it with my own 2 eyes. It was Doc Holliday😉
Well that certainly cleared that up.............
I think Johnny Ringo did kill himself. If someone shot him they would brag about it and there wouldn’t be any question. Boys can’t keep a damn secret like that to save their lives. Johnny was a deep thinker and had a troublesome life. He had just spent days drinking and his depression overwhelmed him. Let him rest in peace ❤
For anyone curious, Johnny Ringo was born in Greensfork, Indiana, a town that I know well, and I still have cousins who live there.
I used to fish in Morgan Creek, running very close to Greensfork many times growing up, clear into my junior high school days.
It's a small, sleepy little hamlet, with maybe 500-1000 people at most even today.
PinkOld yep, glad to see someone know this little known fact. I’m from Richmond about 15 miles from Greensfork.
Glad to hear from someone else from the area, too!
Is it true that the town celebrates his birthday there?
From what I've read about John Ringold he was most likely shot from a long distance, rifle distance, because he was really fast with his pistols and just anyone wasn't going to take him. The flap of skin on his temple is most likely the result of the bullet coming out sideways or keyhole.
You have bought into the false "Hollywood" narrative that all famous gunmen and mankillers were quick-draw artists, which is bs ! There were no fast-draw wizards ! Do the research, ,plenty of books with photos of the time that show hoglegs were worn high on the waist, in big holsters that swallowed the sixgun. You ain't gonna speed draw from such a rig ! As Wyatt Earp said , "the real killers who pulled a gun , took their time , in a hurry." Another good source of how guns were worn is the "Who Wore What in the American West" site.
If you're from Georgia everybody in Arizona thinks you're Australian for some reason I even had a woman arguing with my wife about in Big nose Cates
Doc Holiday never appeared in court in Colorado. His council postponed the hearing for the week after, hence he had plenty of time to rough up Ike Clanton and meet up with Johnnie Ringo
Doc Holliday had hired a "special master" to delay his court appearance in Colorado.
we started a game that we didn't finish
G:D Jones crackpot videos fight for blood, remember?
Kurt russel killed him
I'm gonna go with Doc Holiday. He just had a good alibi. If you killed someone and was speculated, you best believe to say you were out of town when it happened.
Eric Dizzy , I don’t think it was Doc. He wasn’t a cold blooded killer by any means.He Actually cried after the gunfight behind the OK corral. Along with the fact that he had a court appearance in another state at that time.
@@shawnglass108 His court appearance in Trinidad, Colorado was handled by his attorney. That was the custom at the time. Also noted that Bat Masterson, a good friend of Doc's, was the sheriff of Trinidad at that time. Good alibi.
@@kenfarris8069 NOT. Bat Masterson disliked Doc immensely !
Gentlemen, I just picked up some dirt *really* close to Johnny's grave, I'd like to get working a little museum and stuff for him... um, plans and things... Anyway, I'd *really* like to meet you gentlemen.
The property is just rough dirt at the moment, but... yeah, plans.
I'm bumping around Sunsites while working on getting the utilities put in; I hope to see you around.
~Abe
Buried in the Chiricahua mountains east of Tombstone.
Enjoyed the movie, but who really knows who killed johnny ringing? Hollyweird also made everyone believed Billy the Kid was south paw!
No, a reversed photo plate did that.
The Dec. 14, 1879, edition of the Arizona Daily Star stated: “Last Tuesday a shooting took place at Safford in which Louis Hancock was shot by Johnny Ringo. It appears Ringo wanted Hancock to take a drink of whiskey, and refused, saying he would prefer beer. Ringo then struck him over the head with his pistol and fired, the ball taking effect in the lower end of the ear and passing through the fleshy part of his neck. Half an inch more in the neck would have killed Hancock. Ringo is under arrest.”
The main discrepancy in the theory that Doc or Wyatt couldn't have done it is, that he was last seen on the 11th, so that would leave them two and half days, not one day. Not that I think either of them did, but there's no time of death, so he could have been killed any time between the 11th and the 13th.
Didn't end ask the lawmen seated to the left of the couple. I am sure they pondered the issue a few times...
Lt. Joe Kenda could find out who killed Ringo...
My my my
I would love to visit Tombstone. It’s on my bucket list along with Deadwood and Dodge City.
on a train or wagon heh...
Mine too!
Hey guys, I was lucky to of gone there in 94, and it was AWESOME, I was walking along the sidewalk being Wyatt with my gf taking the Mick outta me, but I didn't care, guts you GOTTA GO. if I win the lottery vwe are all going ha ha.
@@darrenrobertw I’m gonna hold ya to that lol
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Johnny Ringo is an amazing name to have
Imagine if his middle names were Paul and George. 😉
I visited his grave last year, I wonder if he knew someone was walking on his grave. I left him a bottle of whiskey and a 45 cartridge. There was a few dollars left on his stone in tribute it's miles of dirt road to the site, but it was worth the time, at least to me.
I don't believe that Johnny Ringo was quite prepared to find himself mentioned in the same breath as Doc Holliday or Wyatt Earp. He always strikes me as that throw away character authors use to give the protagonist something to do while the larger story is fleshed out.
This is not to say that Johnny Ringo didn't bring plenty to the table as he certainly did, in his time and in his way and he definitely had an impact on Wyatt and Doc, but WE can see now what others couldn't see then, that the story was about Wyatt and Doc and could be told without the introduction of Johnny Ringo, whereas the story of Johnny Ringo needs Doc and Wyatt if he is to have any story at all.
*Ringo died by the hands of death, who rode in on a pale horse*
The hat that fella is wearing the one with the western white shirt. What kind of hat is it it's a nice one
Doc Holiday. I saw the movie. Lol. 🍻
"He was just too high strung"
I find it..implausible that given the environment of the time that someone will drop Ringo with a rifle and THEN pack up the body, haul it several miles to the spot, and THEN go the additional trouble to prop him up like he committed suicide. That would serve no purpose-at all. This is all supposition, 3rd hand stories and speculation.
We may never know who for sure, but Ringo was killed by someone and most believe it was Frank Leslie. It is recorded that there was no powder burn on the side of his face. This would've been a certainty with cartridges containing black powder. He had to have been shot from a distance.
Val Kilmer did it
its true, Im a witness
That's true 😂😂👍
It was doc holliday
Yep I don't know why people say who kill Ringo
He met his huckleberry.
I did it. I saw it on TV in front of the camera.
I just love the old west. I was born 150 years too Damn late . I would love to have been a cowboy in those days . I think I would have been a bounty hunter. Thanks for these great videos.
I bet if you born back then but knew what life would be like now you wouldn't want to be there. You would much rather live in these times rather than back then, life then was a hard life that's why life expectancy is so much longer now than then. I grew up in W Pa. In the 40's & 50's. Take my word for it going to an outsider in the middle of a harsh winter is something I don't wish on anyone but enemies or people I don't like very much.
Scott Cozart you probably would have been the bartender getting slapped up by Ike Clanton every day! Ike be taking no lip from you
Life was hard back then plus no wifi internet just playing cards or getting pissed all day and night and oh yeah gunfights.
Shit was rough then...... I mean rough rough.
I guess only Lorne Green knows. (Listen to his recording "Ringo".
After watching this, I consider myself as much an expert on the death of Mr Ringo as these guys...
You are.
It was doc Holliday I seen the movie 😁 y'all remember he said I'll be your huckleberry 😋
I enjoyed this video. Thanks.
Boy that tree will last forever
These real men, did NOT kill themselfs.!..
My theory is probably...I don’t have a clue.
Plot twist. Ike Clanton grew a pair and he did it.
Doc killed Johnny! I saw the movie!!! LOL
Mike Dambeck He tolking about the real Johnny rango and doc
Mike Dambeckl
No its not doc.. But however doc is a brave men but you are all cowards with that stupid comment
Good channel. I love Old West info like this. It was such a brutal time but so fascinating to hear about
I heard he died the same way Old Dan Tucker did . A toothache in his heel . I guess that was a common problem back then .
I went back in time and took out Johnny boy. I had to see if I was quicker.
I'm your huckleberry. Oh, Jonny, you look like somebody just walked right over your grave.
Fights not with you Doc.
Oh but is it. We started a game that we never got to finish it. Play for blood, remember?
I was just fooling.
I'm wasn't.
Okay Doc, let's do it.
Say when. Say when Jonny!
Oh poor soul, he was just to high strung.
Tom Sawyer I beg to differ
You're no daisy. You're no daisy at all.
Tom Sawyer Piper ur the closest one yet! except ringing didn't say "ok doc let's do it ", he said "ok lunger let's do it" lol.
Tom Sawyer Piper it's "Ok lunger" not "Ok Doc"
I remember reading (1) a relative of Earp remembered him and Holiday laughing about killing Ringo and staging the body; (2) I also remember reading that the weapon was hanging from the gun belt, by the hammer closed, like it was cocked, stuck on the belt so the hammer fell on the leather and the gun hung there. I've read many speculations fanned by writers who got paid by the word. True West is no longer a reliable source since it was sold, went slick papered, full of ads, and the writers don't list bibliographies. Secondly, I don't believe that dead tree has lasted nearly 150 yrs!
He killed him self twirling his gun.
In peace requiescata
This is how suicide happens according to psychologists. First there is suicide ideation where you think about it often. Then there is suicide verbalization , when you talk about suicide. Then there is attempted suicide where to do it.
Doc wouldn't have flipped his holster or not bragged about it. Doc is innocent in this case.
always to hear a detailed account from good indepents thank you sir.
"I'm your huckleberry"
Johnny always talked of suicide & the bullet wound is typical of that. I think if someone else had shot him it would have been to the chest or stomach & more than one shot not a single shot. Seems many cowboys bragged about things they didn't do for reputation. Johnny was drinking liquor & that combined with depression certainly would make him take his own life. People always want to think it was a murder but in those days they wouldn't bother to stage the scene. Sometimes it is what it is. Dude just didn't want to live anymore.
He killed himself thats what really happened.
Another good point nobody would stage anything they would just kill him and there would be no evidence anyways
Johnny Ringo. Doc was in Colorado at time
Doc Holliday & Wyatt Earp made sure they had good alibis !
That could very well be true. Alot of the gang died mysteriously over the years after the Ok Corral.
Doc Holiday....lol...What do you think Darling?..Well it reminds me of me....lol...you look somebody who just walk over your "GRAVE."..lol...we started a game we never got to finish...play for blood remember....lol...i loved that movie....are we not friends anymore?....lol...
He started a game he couldn't finish
I would say doc holiday and just cause of tombstone but in the movie the tension is really built up i dont see how it couldn't of been doc
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls