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Could This Short Wave Signal Trigger A Nuclear Armageddon? UVB-76 The Buzzer
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A dead hand, is when you sit on your own hand til it becomes dead, or rather completely numb, then you pretend you are, ahem, shaking a pair of dice?
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@@xonox_868 👈🏻 this guy knows
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The buzzer has a twofold function. For one it reserves a channel, this one everyone got right. The second reason is evading most, but it's very practical - it is an auto-squelch, selcall for the HF. The receivers equipped to be on standby, scattered all over the military districts, have a re-settable, audio controlled, timered squelch. You don't want to sit and wash your brain off in the noise of the radio, waiting for a Monolith message. The buzzer sound resets the squeltch timer and keeps it closed. When the buzzing stops for a while, the timer times out and the radio switches audio on. This is all to it.
I was wondering if you could use it in that capacity, thanks for sharing.
Makes sense, but then why 15 years without a message though?
@@cpufreak101 Not really the case. The Buzzer was active in Monolith message back from the 1970s. Just that it wasn't being monitored like it has been in recent years. No different to any other Soviet or Russian command and control broadcast. They all send the same style Monolith codewords using voice or Morse.
@@Tomteeejay NZhTI is still active and it sent few codes here and there in past 2 years you dummies ....sometimes there was morse codes but those were pirates or random alter freq broadcasts
@@jurajokasa834 Why the silly "dummies" remarks? Yes, I am well aware that NZhTI is still active on 4625 Kilohertz USB. Yes, of course there are Morse code nets heard near or on the 4625 Kilohertz frequency. The Russians have very poor frequency management. You'll sometimes hear Russian Navy Northern Fleet ship to shore Morse on 4625.5 Kilohertz CW and you will also hear Russian Air Force air defence broadcast Morse bleeding through from 4628 Kilohertz CW. Other Russian military Morse nets will be heard from time to time bleeding through on the frequency as well as pirates trolling the frequency with Morse. This is nothing new.
Have you managed to make it down to Hack Green's Secret Nuclear Bunker in Nantwich?
They have a bunch of radio stuff from both Russia and the UK, well worth a visit. The staff are super friendly and welcome photography. I'm sure if you asked nicely they'd do you an interview and a little tour if you wanted to make a little video about the place and the history it beholds.
It’s so cool isn’t it. I’ve been twice and I’m overdue a visit!
@@RingwayManchester Kelvedon Hatch in Essex also worth a visit. Talking of old computers, DEC/ digital (equipment corporation) hardware is clearly seen too, in these locations, now that IS (and was) a very reliable computer operating system, and some critical services still use it today.
I sent the Buzzer a QSL card to the Russian bureau. I'm still waiting for a response. 🤣
Tell me how that goes 😆
@@robertbruce7686 Our (Czech) numbers station (called OLX) used to send QSL cards. ;-)
Good one!! Lol
I once connected with MIR U8MIR on packet and so am probably in their logs. Never tried for a qsl card but having them reply in packet (just an ack not a person) was fun.
Did you use your real address 😂
UVB-76 is what got me interested in numbers stations. So cool you are doing a piece on it. All your previous work is why subbed, and have learned things i would not normally look up. great channel mate.
That was just noise.......
For me it was The Spanish Lady stations.
In 1960, when I was in 10th grade, high-school. I phoned the USSR's Intourist for some Russian tourist information, answering their phone with an accent, what do you want.
They sent me literature that looked like what you showed the USSR published back in those years.
I find it hard to believe that this myth still has a chance to survive despite the large number of videos on UA-cam of the buzzer dying, or needing to be 'rewound' after it stops working. Some of these break downs sound pretty amusing too.
The reason this myth survives is due to most people on the internet being fucking idiots. Just read the comments and you'll see their idiocy on display.
Myths always survive contrary demonstration, they just incubate among the dumbest, most isolated and illiterate people and wait to regerminate when society’s overall lucidity has lowered enough.
SW hobbyists use the buzzer signal to see how good the conditions are for them to pick up stations, which is pretty much what the purpose is for it anyway
So the exact military purpose of the buzzer is actually pretty well documented on the Russian internet. My Russian is dog shit but the buzzing is in fact a channel marker and the voice messages are in a format IIRC called Monolit and Uzor and they are some form of military instructions that can be decoded in the field by the right operators.
I wouldn't rule out that it could be a form of dead mans grip as well, but not alone, rather that if it goes out and all other means of communication goes out then it basically means that no command is left in Russia.
@@ehsnils Bruh it's just the same thing as the USAF HFGCS that broadcasts the spooky "Skyking skyking do not answer" encoded EAM messages. Same thing, different execution, and with a weirder channel marker.
Thanks Lewis for going back in time and taking such good photos of the Soviet system.
Another excellent video!!
Ah, UVB-76. My morning alarm sound. Love the scanned background images.
Thank you for taking the time to research this bit of history! I find it very interesting and will have to check it out when I get my HF rig set up again, about a decade ago I spent time monitoring some numbers stations, can’t find my notes as to where on the bands I found a few. Radio China was another broadcaster I listened to, very subtle propaganda, they however get on one’s nerves real fast.
A decent solar storm is going to result in a radio blackout that can last for hours, days and at worst weeks. That type of radio blackout is going to be most and strongest in the short wave radio band but can go up to mobile frequencies (698Mhz and up to 3700Mhz).
...were still waiting buddy.
@@kenosabi A solar storm that strong doesn't hit us every month, buddy. Keep waiting.
@@kenosabi We're all set up for tomorrow, 75% chance of M and 35% chance of X
The Russians are not stupid. They know there are technical problems possible. Perimeter will not retaliate immediately if that signal is lost, but likely after a few days of outage. On the other hand it's possible to send this signal by others at the same frequency. Maybe they send it to keep us busy.
I never bought into the dead hand theory. Nobody's that crazy, not even the Soviets. I always assumed The Buzzer was some sort of "reference tone." The Soviet RADIO magazine graphics are really cool. I hope you'll still share your own antenna images. Thanks.
It is very likely that it existed only on paper.
Love the buzzer great video Lewis not as strong as it used to be but still a main part of our shortwave stable x
Loved the 1960's artwork on the magazines! Great vid , thanks!
I'm still with the "channel marker" as the most likely explanation as it's carrying the same "monolith" style messages as the other "weird russian mil channel marker" stations. But agree, not a dead hand switch. Always felt a bit sorry for the folks having to listen to that for a whole working day. Thanks for covering that classic, Lewis & 73!
why are these messages called 'monolith messages'? In the ukranian video game Stalker (about Chernobyl disaster and more relevant, one of the Duga radar installations) there is a faction called the Monolith that receive their instructions from weird antenna contraptions. This must be directly inspired by these real world transmissions.
@@danosdotnl that game sounds interesting I'm going to have to check it out.
@@justindunlap1235 it's quite old, but there are many mods to spice it up, although I would suggest playing the originals. Still one of my favs, super gritty. Also check out Generation Zero, set in coldwar Sweden, lotsa bunkers to explore
@@danosdotnlsounds like the Fallout series here in the USA
@@violinfanatickamraz1403 I wanted to say that the only common theme between the Fallout series is the 'post apocalyptic world', but actually, in the aforementioned games there is no world wide apocalypse at all, just affected Zone's. So everything is still very normal/relatable which IMHO contributes to it's immersion.
Nice, sensible, informative video and delightfully illustrated!
Around this time last year, a whole bunch of videos started showing up on YT with pirates broadcasting on 4652kHz in an attempt to jam UVB-76. Troll Face and Never Gonna Give You Up are my favourites. 😂
Knowing the guy who served there I can say there are like 3 different complexes hooked to a one antenna field. The most primitive of them transmits the buzz and it's just to prevent anyone else from uzing the frequency, tha one doing that has like a 50s era radio equipment that is extremely scary because of the voltages. Considering the Buzzer is located in the Moscow region, I'd assume it's a radio station for the General Staff's backup command post. Rumors are it is also used (or was used) as a berification tool for time or for radio equipment.
Another fascinating video, and great that you tracked down those mazing old Soviet radio magazines!
That buzzer station reminded me instantly of the baseline to Warm Leatherette by The Normal.
You're getting bloody good at this... I loved it. I knew some of this but you filled in one or two gaps.
Fabulous artwork. Super video. I happened across "The Pip" the other evening and the Goose a few weeks back.
I think you are naive to suppose that a retaliatory strike would not be made when "there's no point if everyone's gone". Both the Soviets/Russians and the Americans would most certainly retaliate, even "if everyone's gone".
Love your videos, especially the "Numbers Stations" ones.
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Isn't that kinda the point of submarines and underground missile silos. Then even if everyone in the country dies, there's still someone to retaliate.
@@justindunlap1235 that's why it's called the dead hand. Let's face it most video you are going to see about Russia right now is going to be mental gymnastics and calling their weapons useless or old. Despite the fact that Russia is over 5 years ahead of every country in rocket engineering. They launched 22 satellites last year the year before that was 25.
@@marshalljulie3676 USA space x has launched an entire satellite network. Thousands of them. Also Russia isn't ahead at all. USA maintains more icbm missiles. And has a complete nuclear triad.
@@marshalljulie3676russia 5 years ahead? Of the 80's?
@@Mediamarked the 70s 🤣
There is a new buzzing noise typically on 40,80 and 11 meter bands. Audio transmission between Aus and USA, via long path. Sensitive words relayed get cut up or “buzzed” out. I hear it all too often.
There's an early King Crimson song that has this actual musical structure, though the second note is different from what I hear here... it's played on a mellotron. Since the alternating is a little faster, I think Robert Fripp was going for the old high/low siren sound...
Another absolutely brilliant informative show
Really love cold war spy stuff v interesting
Thanks Lewis really good stuff
Transmitters used for ionosphere research are very high-precision, only allowed to drift a few Hz from the nominal frequency. Measuring this one’s deviations may suggest if it is used for this purpose.
Tuned into this station several times on my shortwave radios - Thanks for posting !
"There is no point if everyone is gone", sure there is, it's the definition of mutual distruction. But no, the buzzer is not part of this system.
Propagation test sigs in the US apparently consist of a sig that sweeps constantly. You can hear it for an instant when it passes by the frequency that you are on, but the modern ham rigs with spectrum display reveal it as a blip on the screen drifting from low to high till it is out of the display.
The whole "Dead Hand" system doesn't work like people think it works, it's not a passive dead-man's switch which always blows up the world any time one of its tripwires goes out. It was designed to protect against a "decapitation strike" where a first strike would wipe out the entire command and control chain, leaving the Soviets unable to arm and launch their nukes. The conditions for detecting such a strike were very specific, because making the system too trigger-happy would be suicide.
And the actual launching of those nukes is still a process that involves people, so the Perimetr system can send authorization and commands to the launch posts, but those launch sites are not completely automated and robotized. Which may also have been partly by design: Even the Soviets didn't want to inadvertedly build a Skynet which could launch their nukes without them being able to stop it.
I remember finding a document about how the frequency used for UVB-76 is actually a ionosphere measuring frequency.
I love the way it sounds, like impending doom.
I still won't forgive you for not going all the way to Russia to film the actual broadcasting site. lol.
I’ll try next time!!
Always looking for number stations. Amazing content.
People need to get over the idea that any of the vloggers who chat about numbers stations and other clandesdine stations, should include footage of the actual site. as if any government would just welcome any and all curious persons to come photograph their transmission bases 🤣 love all your work, and enjoy your posts!
Awesome video!!! I have been listening to alot of number stations and radio anomaly... so this peaked my interest, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Once again Lewis thanks very much , always interesting. Keep up the great work, much appreciated.
Much appreciated
The idea that the mere absence of a radio signal would trigger armageddon is just silly. Thanks for your sensible explanation.
Take the following with a teaspoon of salt, as this is all "hear say", I trust some of the sources enough to deem them credible though. Perimeter related. There are two things that I have heard from various sources. I've read on some occasions that Perimeter does monitor the presence of a specific radio station for its "decision" making. It's said to be some popular, state run, radio station in Moscow (frequency band not given, but probably even FM), but certainly not "The Buzzer". The reason that was given was it's intended as a fail safe for the fail safe. If abnormal light and radiation values along with seismic events are present, but that station is still playing music it cant be that bad, right?
Even if this component does not exist, people may associate mentioning of the possibility of it with The Buzzer, because both are weird.
Secondly and I heard and read this so many times over the years, is that the Soviets (and now Russians) are deadly afraid of Perimeter. It's rarely ever switched on apparently, cause its perceived as being too finnicky and unreliable and cant be trusted long term. So there would be little need for The Buzzer to be transmitting all the time or even 24/7
Im obsessed with the buzzer ❤
That signal sounds like the build-up to a sick drum'n'bass drop.
Can’t believe Lewis is unwilling to take the short hop over to Russia to get some drone shots.
Total lack of commitment to the channel.😂
I know! 😂
the numbers station sounds like 8-bit Nine Inch Nails. I kinda like it. :P
More likely a focusing bandwidth for controlled comms such as home in on signal then go up x amount of bandwidth at a certain time to receive coded transmission, something both east and west have used effectively. Having a stable "zero" point is pretty crucial for covert and non covert communications, couple that with one time pads and you have absolutely unbreakable covert communications from source to recipient and SW means ease of actually receiving without having to wait for a satellite uplink or rely on lesser power frequency ranges. The Soviets were past master at such operations much of which was for its vast illegals network of KGB "sleepers" ensconced within western nations.
Afaik this is for mil operations indeed. .But if u as russian soldier hear the buzzer than there is a clear way to communicate among each other near or on the freq. i hear a lot of mill stations due to the russia war near the Buzzer frequency at night mostly AM
Great soviet art and pictures brings alive this story.
my wife has a toy that makes a buzzing noise 😳
Not 24:7 tho 😂
@@RingwayManchester One hopes not...
here first, also nice video. The Buzzer still has its infamous reputation, and probably will for a long time.
IIRC Perimeter wasn't a thing until the 80s and The Buzzer predates that by a fair amount, right? If so the timeline doesn't check out, either.
Cheers Lewis another Great Video👍
Glad you enjoyed it
“Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday Machine is lost, if you keep it a secret!”
You have to admit, it makes a great story. 😁 Sounds like a James Bond script or something.
Quality Lewis.
As I stated earlier, it’s a portal jammer to lock UFOs in their dimension. Check UFO sighting count after UVB-76 downtime 😅.
Sounds like the intro to a hardcore techno track.
Superb photos and sound commentary!
Perimeter is supposed to activate even when there is no chain of command. That's the whole point.
The buzzer is just some aliens trying to find their car they misplaced, like that episode of Futurama.
They are trying to broadcast "Kickstart My Heart" but that's all they can play without being sued.
It may have had a partial function of being a type of propagation beacon, in addition to being a place holder for that frequency. Given that there were a number of these stations operating, each with a unique audio feature (buzzer, goose, bell, whatever) gives me reason to believe that the radio operators in the field with the mobile missile launchers and fixed silos would listen for one. If they heard it, they would send a coded reply as a check-in a few times a day. If they did not hear the buzzer, they would retune to the next and then send that coded reply. The reply send would be based on which signal they received. (Example: BZR for buzzer, GSE for goose, and so on) This would tell the commanders which frequencies were being heard and which weren’t. It would be a wasted effort to send a launch command on a frequency that no one could hear because the atmospherics were acting up.
Yeah, I had a hard time believing that it was dead hand transmitter. But the concept of the UVB-76 The Buzzer would make for a fine spy thriller...James Bond on steroids lol. Cheers from the states
“Why launch a strike in retaliation? There’s no point if everyone’s gone.”
Agreed it’s not likely to be part of the dead hand system, but the point of it is exactly that, no? It guarantees mutual destruction even if you wipe out the Soviet Union. That idea is intended to chill any enemy state into not trying it.
Here are reasons why such a frequency COULD be a dead hand signal:
A: It's short range. Which means that you'd have to be close to the target region in order to spoof it.
B: Claiming that the transmitter is too unreliable even if it had several backups might be backwards, what if the transmitter is one of the backups. The procedure could be: This cable will carry a heartbeat signal from Moscow, this other cable carries a heartbeat signal from St. Petersburg. If both are ever out at the same time, you FIRST tune into the radio signal, and if it still gets transmitted, it means that Moscow still stands. If it doesn't exist, call these phone numbers and transmit requests for orders on these frequencies. If you don't get through, zap through all satellite TV channels from Moscow.
I.e. a procedure where the buzzing is only transmitted in order to avoid every Silo calling the same phone numbers at once, while the engineers at the Kremlin are already busy debugging their primary heartbeat signals.
That would also explain why the low reliability isn't a big issue.
C: Jam-ability doesn't work in an enemy's favor with dead hand switches. If that outside nation does indeed launch an attack, then jamming the signal and having the signal do it's job both give away that something's up. And if you're not launching an attack, then sabotaging nuclear communication just increases the chances of triggering an accidental retaliation.
Mutually assured destruction works on the principle that anyone wanting to nuke you is made to believe that there are contingencies upon contingencies that they pay for it.
D: Asking what use there is in launching Nukes from a country that doesn't exist any more is looking at it from the wrong perspective. The point is to be able to discourage anyone from thinking they can get away with launching a first strike.
E: The Russian government doesn't put a lot of effort into convincing people that it's not a dead hand switch. Meaning they at least profit from other nations speculating if it could be one of those measures.
Here's what I find strangle about some of these transmitters:
If this was a primary dead hand switch (the kind that actually triggers something, in contrast to the kind that you only check to resolve confusion), you'd need to design it in a way that it can be practically monitored. Ideally you'd want a machine to be able to do that monitoring. But, in case the machine is ever out, you'd want the signal to be well-behaved enough that a human can listen to it for 4 hours or so without getting annoyed and going crazy immediately.
For machine detectability, you want to make sure that you don't just detect ANYTHING on the respective carrier frequency, but the right signal (because of jamming, for example). I.e. you transmit an audio signal that the machine can detect, over a radio frequency. And since we're talking about technology that was on the robust (i.e. simple) side of what's possible in the 1960's, that audio signal would probably be a relatively pure tone of a certain frequency (with some wiggle room) that repeats with some defined period (with some wiggle room again).
This buzzer has neither of those qualities.
The big caveat with automated dead-hand type of systems is that you don't want them to trigger on false positives, because that would bite you in the ass. Sure you could design a system that would authorize nukes to be armed without needing the president's codes if the primary system goes out, but that still leaves the actual launching up to the people who are still standing.
The Buzzer may not be a dead hand switch, but that would make a good plot for a James Bond film.
On your point about there not being a reason to fire if there is any chain of command left; I think that's the point or at least a part of it, it adds to the deterrenceof being attacked as your adversary will lose regardless of whether they were able to take out your government or military.
But as in Dr Strangelove, that theory fails if your adversary doesn't know such a system exists!
It can be part of the perimeter, just not the way people have thought it is
I've read about numbers stations over the years, intriguing, worrying and interesting in roughly equal parts. But Deadhand is scary, and Perimeter I've only heard mentioned a couple of times. First time I've seen your channel. You seem to know your stuff.
There's nothing to "worry" about.
So if it were a dead hand signal, as the enemy, you'd just have to set up fake transmitters and the dead hand system wouldn't trigger?
I think this is a better counterpoint than "it's unreliable". The Soviet Union didn't exactly have the best track record with safety measures, and I've got a 2-ton chunk of corium lying in Room 217/2 to share with anyone who doesn't think so.
@@DJstarrfish yeah, I mean, the new confinement structure was build for a reason :/
sounds like the start of a drum and bass tune!!!
Nothing ever fails to fail
If a Deadhand system exists then the means of setting it into motion have probably changed over time, to better evade countermeasures.
Those magazine covers were amazing.
6:30 Ionosphere research is a good guess. WWV emits a series of tones on the eighth minute of every hour to ionosphere research.
Great video and really interesting images. 🙏
still enjoying the videos , thanks
I once visited about three transmitters in the Moscow region.
The time Windows XP startup was broadcast was interesting 😂
Great video! The only flaw is to assume Russia would have a rational reason for the transmitter ;)
Just from the audio, it sounds like digital data - the buzz sounds subtly different each time. Looking with a spectrum analysis makes it look like multi frequency on-off keyed data, at a low data rate (75 symbols/sec?? - a guestimate) . Something you could probably decode with 1970's+ military equipment.
The large vertical antennas in array was long-range surface radar!
Fascinating as always. I also really enjoyed those images.
Glad you enjoyed it. How cool are those pics?!
@@RingwayManchester Very - I love stuff like that!
@@RingwayManchester Very cool, comrade!
If I get this right that the various continuous signal stations could be a form of ionosonde. This form of oonosonde is needed to support over the horizon radar systems by monitoring the ionosphere in real time.
"nah, so wrong. This is an concept album that goes on for donk(ey)s (years) by an early pre Tangerine Dream" ;)
wow i wondered what this was.heard it many years ago in australia. Thanks to others in the comments too. the skyking us version sounds interesting.
that's interesting.. there's a similar (albeit faster) version of this around 5262 (amongst others
Where did you find the scans for this video? They are incredibly cool while also being unsettling. I would love to see more.
yes, a little sinister, but beautiful and compelling
5:16 I don't think I agree with that. Surely part of a a deterrent is to prevent the other side taking out your chain of command. For a nuclear deterrent to be effective both sides need to know that taking out the other sides chain of command will cause a response.
This has got to be one of the strangest things I've heard in a long time.
And even if it was an ionosphere research experiment, it wouldn't explain why there are sometimes people speaking on the airwaves as this wouldn't really be necessary.
Personally, I'd be more tempted to say that it's just a clock synchronizing signal for some sort of device.
I love how crude the buzzer was
Was? Has it stopped?
It still is ....4625khz....247...
I’ve heard it Central Oregon as recently as summer 2021 off an EFHW sloper. On a hill mind, but not a great hill.
Perimeter is way more complex than this.
I look forward to your video
Hi Lewis, many thanks I can sleep well tonight , haha.
Like your choice of Soviet radio and electronics hobby magazine covers on slide show.
Thanks!
Here’s a funny thought… So it’s a science experiment used to measure changes in the ionosphere, but the details never seem to come out. Just this rumor.
So that gives me two speculative notions about it…
One is that the specific purpose in observing the ionosphere in some cases is itself not meant to be public knowledge. (Like taking reliability readings on shortwave transmission in general, so you’ve better ideas about when your numbers stations probably aren’t being received clearly.)
The other, though, is just misdirection. If there’s a rumor about how Perimeter functions, and it’s an attractive nuisance to conspiracy theorists in nations you feel are a threat, why do anything to dissuade that theory? Maybe even bolster it from time to time when it seems to become less popular. The more easily disproven the better, in a way.
Agreed it’s likely not what’s controlling the launch of nuclear weapons, however the ionosphere can be affected by a nuclear blast especially at altitude. Given that maximum yield is delivered when detonated above the surface it’s possible that it’s still a part of perimeter all be it not the key to it.
"Oh yeah we are going to have this 24/7 Radio station that ends the world in case a moderate solar storm hits or the power goes out for any reason." Where do people get these ideas?
Amazing images. They’re mock ups or a drawing of real things that existed?
Of course not! It's stopped before, and we're still here!