Endless Off-Grid Fuel on the Homestead - Biogas Part #1

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  • Опубліковано 28 жов 2023
  • We built a machine to make us endless off-grid fuel on the homestead. Also known as a bio-digester, "Big Murph" turns organic homestead waste into methane (natural gas). Consider this cycle: grass consumes CO2, the cow eats grass and turns it into cow pies, the digester turns cow pies into methane, we burn the methane to power our homestead and it turns back into CO2....which feeds the grass!
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  • @MichaelMiller_WI_US
    @MichaelMiller_WI_US 7 місяців тому +148

    *** PRO TIP ***
    Add 1% by volume of vegetable oil to the digester. The methanogens coat themselves with the oil. This protects them from the sulphuric acid produced. You should get an increase in production from 54% to above 70%. Also, by using manure from ruminant animals, you will be able to digest cellulose items like leaves and paper.
    Add some way to gently stir the digester tank. Flow your gas from the digester through cold water before storing it. This will remove most of the CO2 and sulphuric oxide. Stay safe. You're playing with a flammable gas.

    • @sojourn777
      @sojourn777 7 місяців тому +1

      Laughing out loud 😅😅😂😂😂

    • @michaelchownyk5255
      @michaelchownyk5255 7 місяців тому +1

      Shouldn’t the water contain a bit of lithium hydroxide so that the carbon dioxide will become lithium carbonate in solution?

    • @kadmow
      @kadmow 7 місяців тому +2

      @@michaelchownyk5255 - is that so the effluent can be used to make a cottage Li-Ion storage hut (jk) - or serious comment)

    • @michaelchownyk5255
      @michaelchownyk5255 7 місяців тому +2

      My comment is serious and I mean it. If you blow exhaled air through a glass full of sodium hydroxide, it will slowly form sodium carbonate in solution, same with lithium hydroxide. The goal is to get the gas to be mostly flammable so that would mean to exclude carbon dioxide. How else would you do it and I’m not joking

    • @mattg6472
      @mattg6472 7 місяців тому +3

      @@michaelchownyk5255 lol nice . Question why do we need it to be more flammable ? To run somthing else I'm not aware of.? Far as I know with carbon dioxide in the biogas it still runs stove or engine . I'm sincerely wondering 🤔

  • @sonofeloah
    @sonofeloah 7 місяців тому +54

    I know a thing or two about methane production and learned one really important tidbit that I feel compelled to share. I mean, it is great you turn cow pies and horse apples into methane. And it is great to see you open the falve and burn some. BUT, have you ever heard of a check valve (aka butterfly valve or a one way valve)? You can get them for all levels of desired pressures. But the beauty of it is that if you happen to be literally burning it for heat and or cooking and or running a generator and you suddenly run out of enoough pressure, you can cause a flame to go all the way back to your tank and it can do even more than what thosde little bottles of ignited gas did. And TRUST ME, you DO NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!!. In other words, been there, done that. Back in the 70s, built a system using 55 gal drums to make the gas. And if you add 1/4th green to the poo ratio and establish a stiring mechanical to stir the batch and you will get a lot more gas. Fortunately I had my barrel set in the ground so all they did was blow their tops one cool night and everyone was burning their stove ovens to heat with as it was late summer and we did not expect it to get so cold so sudden. No one was injured but it sure scared the blazes out of us all. And the fire marshall who showed up (the blast was heard a good 20 miles away) listened to what my system was and then he stopped me and asked "one question son, have EVER heard of a check valve?" We were outside and you could have heard a pin drop till I finally said"Uhhh, no. What is that?" BTW, my systems with their check valves are still working just fine out there in california. I am about to build a system here in Missouri for our home. BTW, you can use it to weld with just as you would using propane and oxygen. Even cut metal.

    • @justinh6924
      @justinh6924 7 місяців тому +3

      Thank you for sharing your story. Cheers.

    • @edisont.picard4112
      @edisont.picard4112 6 місяців тому

      I call BS. The only way for the digester to explode is for there to be enough oxygen in it. There should be no air inside the digester otherwise it will kill the anaerobic bacteria necessary to produce the gas in the first place.

    • @PaulRittell
      @PaulRittell 4 місяці тому +6

      That’s great advice. You also need to be aware of the H2S produced during this process. You cannot see it and if it is really strong, you will not smell it. The gas is heavier than air so be careful about low spots or enclosed buildings.

    • @iamfound74
      @iamfound74 4 місяці тому +2

      What is the "*green (add 1/4th green to the poo ratio)"?

    • @johnrhodes3350
      @johnrhodes3350 3 місяці тому +5

      Also something called 'Flashback Arrestor

  • @ericbritchie
    @ericbritchie 7 місяців тому +10

    Blowing shit up with your Dad, precious memories.....that is true quality time.

    • @dchall8
      @dchall8 День тому

      Yeah, I remember blowing stuff up as a kid in the 50s and losing hair on various parts of my head and body. And then they invented safety equipment.

  • @stinkfinger8700
    @stinkfinger8700 4 місяці тому +17

    about 20 years ago a buddy of mine built a 5000 gallon digestor on his father-in-laws hog farm ( along with my help as general labor). my buddy had 2 degrees-1 of biology and 2 of solid waste management. at that time his FiL was lagooning the hog waste in a containment pond. we put in a small tank between the hog barn and the pond and ran a 3 inch pipe from the tank to another larger upright tank of about 4500 gallons then ran a pipe from the bottom of that tank to the digestor. the pipe had a grinder/pump to reduce any waste size and to fill the upright tank. we let it set and settle for about a week, then let gravity feed it into and fill the digestor. if i remember right my buddy had built the digestor as a big bladder type of rubber/poly type stuff. he said he would use fresh, unprocessed cow stomachs he'd buy from a slaughterhouse to supersharge a get the digestor started producing gas. the gas was then ran thru a water bath then thru charcoal to a tank. we pressurized it to about 5 psi, then ran it thru a fuelcell to produce electricity. about once a week that summer we would go out to drain a couple thousand gallons out thru a sieve system- any leftover solids were then piled in a compost pile and the water was sent back to the containment pond. then we'd refill the digestor from the upright tank. this worked quite well. the FiL was able to sell excess energy back to the grid and the extra gas was used to heat his hog barns.

    • @crazykkid2000
      @crazykkid2000 3 місяці тому

      This is what environmentalists need to be doing. Not being dumb ass commies

  • @ayobali992
    @ayobali992 Місяць тому +3

    🥰🥰🥰 You guys are living the best life ever 🥰🥰🥰
    Keep up the amazing work 🤩🤩🤩

  • @abbiebeast
    @abbiebeast 7 місяців тому +16

    Anaerobic digesters were widely used on farms back in the 1920's to early 1950's. Yes it's methane, nitrogen and a few other gasses, be sure to minimize air from getting into the digester (especially when feeding it) and lines /connections, for safety have a flame arrestor at the tank outlet and at the exhaust (stove connection or whatever), horse manure is fine but low in nitrogen and considered a "cold" manure, cow, chicken and hog manure in that order are "hot" manures and higher in nitrogen, as for other feed stock outside manure you'll want to grind or shred it because doing so creates greater surface area per unit of volume causing more efficient digestion. One final note he slurry at the bottom is PERFECT for putting back on the grow beds so you'll want to have a method for collecting it such as an outlet at the bottom of the digester. Have fun!!

  • @lightning9279
    @lightning9279 7 місяців тому +9

    "That looks like a bad idea".....no truer words have been said.

  • @MohammedAslamtit-bitsoflife
    @MohammedAslamtit-bitsoflife 7 місяців тому +6

    Father a good teacher teaches and training his daughters to be self sufficient living off grid in the remote forest of Canada. He nothing left which there daughters are not trained. In every field his daughters are experts 😂😂 A blessed family...who never complains 🙏🙏🙏🙏🌺🌺🌺🌺 love and greetings from India.....

  • @razedbywolves8505
    @razedbywolves8505 7 місяців тому +40

    You forgot to mention, 'Do not try this at home!' Keep having fun guys and bringing it to us!

    • @joshuakeegwell2896
      @joshuakeegwell2896 7 місяців тому +7

      Because everyone should try this at home and be more self sufficient

    • @SalmonKing52
      @SalmonKing52 7 місяців тому +3

      I’m really looking forward to part 2. I want to see just how you plan on safely transferring the methane to bottles, storing and using it!

    • @arianlucatero7649
      @arianlucatero7649 7 місяців тому

      @@SalmonKing52ive seen a video of a guy using an air compressor to transfer the bio gas from an air mattress to a propane tank

    • @WolfHeathen
      @WolfHeathen 3 місяці тому

      He's an amateur who literally tried it at home.

  • @jackreed3445
    @jackreed3445 7 місяців тому +6

    A friend of mine who is a mechanic/inventor used pig manure and pie pans placed on top of his dry carburetor to run his pickup back in the 80's. Worked well but he didn't have enough pig manure to continue his research and went on to other things. Considering he only had one pig and he produced enough "gas" to go over a mile it was a good experiment.

  • @SalmonKing52
    @SalmonKing52 7 місяців тому +11

    I’m really looking forward to part 2.
    Hopefully you’ll show how to properly (and safely) transfer and store this for home use!

  • @edrobbins1146
    @edrobbins1146 7 місяців тому +11

    Add you water to the poo and stir with a stick before pouring it in. Fantastic idea. You should have free cooking,free heat,free fuel, and free fertilizer when it’s done digesting. On a larger scale you could power all of your house,shop, and greenhouse for totally free. Fantastic idea

    • @JerseyRed
      @JerseyRed 7 місяців тому +3

      I would love to live next to you, maybe fifteen miles distance.

    • @edrobbins1146
      @edrobbins1146 7 місяців тому +2

      @@JerseyRed 😂😂😂😂😂 Make it 30 miles for safety sake

  • @CplSkiUSMC
    @CplSkiUSMC 7 місяців тому +17

    That was all something akin to lighting farts... which we all recognize as prime entertainment.

  • @quarlow1215
    @quarlow1215 7 місяців тому +5

    Omg I can hear the safety Sally's already. 😂😂 This is the kind of stuff we did as kids and nobody ever died. Whats a few eyelashes for fun factor. But besides that, this is a great way to fuel a cooker or whatever else you can think of. They've been doing this in Africa for a long time using cow hide bladders for a tank. Can't wait to see where you go with this.

  • @pedroserranoserrano7062
    @pedroserranoserrano7062 7 місяців тому +3

    Saludos a todos esperó 🙂 estenbien Julia k chica tan talentosa saludos a mamá 🌹 rosa jajaja espero k le crezcan pronto las pestañas a kezia jajaja cuidense mucho bendiciones bonito video

  • @davidgates1887
    @davidgates1887 2 місяці тому +1

    OK I don’t laugh very often but I love to laugh. This is Hass to be the funniest thing on UA-cam. It’s gotta go viral whoever you are you’re the funniest guy out there and I love your wife because she’s just laughing along and I love your spirit, cause you just rolling with it.

  • @theguyinmaine
    @theguyinmaine 7 місяців тому +6

    You guys are too much. What a fun family, that was cool.

  • @jaisonadams378
    @jaisonadams378 7 місяців тому +3

    you and your family are fun to follow along with. keep having fun ya'll!!

  • @EmpressIntuitions-jg1ee
    @EmpressIntuitions-jg1ee 7 місяців тому +2

    Your kids are very lucky to have you as their dad❤ that’s amazing…&awesome ways to get your kids engaged&spend good quality time together! Lol

  • @palominogirl2732
    @palominogirl2732 7 місяців тому

    As a lifelong horse girl, and I'm kinda old, LOL, the best way to describe horse manure is....wait for it...the Champagne of Manures! It doesn't smell bad, especially when compared to ruminant poop, or chicken poop. It is neatly deposited in round pieces, perfect for sifting the wood shavings bedding out of it.
    Most horses will keep their stalls neat, pooping in the opposite corner from where their hay is, unless you are a slob and don't pick their stalls regularly. My horses learn to go outside if their back doors are open into their paddocks. But, alas, the do love to pee in the shavings in their stalls - no splashing! And that is my take on horse manure! :) I love your channel, and really appreciate the way your live and the way your kids are so well rounded. And that horses are a part of that! Excellent!

  • @RosinDaddy5280
    @RosinDaddy5280 3 дні тому +1

    3:24 this is Theraputic 😂😂😂😂😂❤

  • @silverfoxes65
    @silverfoxes65 7 місяців тому +1

    Rose is so cool! Your family is the best.

  • @LanceLaCroix
    @LanceLaCroix 4 місяці тому +1

    Loved the 15:00 mark comment "... those will grow back!!!"

  • @goober698
    @goober698 7 місяців тому +1

    The opening camera work is academy award quality

  • @crahn1980
    @crahn1980 27 днів тому +1

    Beautiful! Living life free! Respect.

  • @MrInfamousNevermind
    @MrInfamousNevermind 3 місяці тому

    You're literally one of the coolest dads ever.. 👏

  • @CatCrazyFamily
    @CatCrazyFamily 7 місяців тому +1

    Far to much fun being had during this educational section may I add. So awesome thanks for sharing !

  • @jeaniLovesAnimals
    @jeaniLovesAnimals 7 місяців тому +2

    Cow farts.. Every farmer knows about this wonderful by-product.. 🐂💩 = gas =💥
    ❤️ you guys...

  • @stevencunningham4680
    @stevencunningham4680 7 місяців тому +11

    This is very cool I love your resourcefulness. Totally bad ass ! You need to explain to the viewers the process of how it all works. Maybe on part 2 ?

    • @Gridlessness
      @Gridlessness  7 місяців тому +6

      Good idea!

    • @jeaniLovesAnimals
      @jeaniLovesAnimals 7 місяців тому +2

      @Gridlessness Be careful utube might take down your videos..
      ❤️

  • @danielcarter7657
    @danielcarter7657 7 місяців тому

    Glad you're raising well rounded ladies

  • @EricBishard
    @EricBishard 21 день тому

    She's a gem

  • @KevinGray13
    @KevinGray13 7 місяців тому +1

    another great video gridlessness!!! thanks for sharing! much love from vancouver island!

  • @alankee1065
    @alankee1065 7 місяців тому +1

    I suggest finding copies of the Sacramento Wastewater Manuals. Somewhere in there are detailed operations for anaerobic digesters. Grab a cheap drywall mud mixer for your drill to mix the buckets. Also develop some way to stir the digestor. You need to get the fresh manure in contact with the bugs.

  • @sandasturner9529
    @sandasturner9529 7 місяців тому

    The dude's face in the thumbnail is just....👌🥂

  • @maxxglass5822
    @maxxglass5822 7 місяців тому +2

    Yes! I've been waiting for this big Murphy info!

  • @bennyhill3642
    @bennyhill3642 5 місяців тому

    Lucky girls to have. Cool Dad!!!!😇😁

  • @pnmoreno
    @pnmoreno 7 місяців тому

    And the view behind you guys. The trees, the gradient blue from pale to cobalt ❤

  • @mattg6472
    @mattg6472 7 місяців тому +2

    Correct me if I'm wrong don't you need to feed it more than poo? You got the bacteria in there from the poo now you gotta feed Murphy your artificial stomach some actual food. Grass clippings? Left overs ? I'm very interested when you come to the compressing part then you only need Murphy running in the warm months . This would make my off-grid experience alot more self sufficient. I use propane cooking and hot water

  • @krisk1547
    @krisk1547 4 місяці тому

    You guys are awesome

  • @ronaldshort9819
    @ronaldshort9819 7 місяців тому +2

    well...she's definitely your daughter 😅I love it when you tell Rose how much you love her 😊 you just need to produce more videos!!

  • @Ranponist
    @Ranponist 7 місяців тому +2

    great idea and sustainable... fun times 🤪

  • @spoolsandbobbins
    @spoolsandbobbins 7 місяців тому

    How is it that you only have 118 likes??? Gonna show my kids. They’ll love it!

  • @NomadC905
    @NomadC905 7 місяців тому +1

    What an AWESOME family!!

  • @MichielVanKets
    @MichielVanKets 22 дні тому

    best video on the topic, mate ... hahaha
    great fun, thanks !!

  • @GravityOfLife
    @GravityOfLife 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks 4 this video. Very useful.

  • @davidclowes2280
    @davidclowes2280 7 місяців тому +4

    One of my friends has one of those digestors and it needs way more poop than you think to run a household but it really works. He dug a hole similar to a septic tank. Digesters Gass went into a big sleeve and then you pressurise it by putting old tyres on the sleeve. You need 4 or 5 cows pooping down the hole.

    • @Gridlessness
      @Gridlessness  7 місяців тому +9

      How did he train them to poop down the hole? That’s genius!

    • @donniev8181
      @donniev8181 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Gridlessnesslol

  • @kathrynrodlun8514
    @kathrynrodlun8514 2 місяці тому +1

    I just found you guys. My first video to see! Oh my! I laughed so hard I almost peed myself! Yummy! I’m your new sub! You earned it!

  • @bettinashope9637
    @bettinashope9637 7 місяців тому

    ❤ thanks for sharing

  • @quietpaddler1
    @quietpaddler1 7 місяців тому +1

    to much fun!!! good job

  • @joecorrero6763
    @joecorrero6763 7 місяців тому

    Hence the term “natural” gas! Very nice chemistry lesson!

  • @CanadaGunTube
    @CanadaGunTube 7 місяців тому +1

    Love this channel, just keeps getting better

  • @karenchavez9996
    @karenchavez9996 7 місяців тому

    I just found your channel and subscribed. You’ve made me laugh while being informative.

  • @BrokenArrow685
    @BrokenArrow685 3 місяці тому

    My 16 year-old daughter would have me imprisoned if I attempted to have even half the fun you guys have. Such is my lot in life. Not a lot, but it's a life...

  • @genxiong2695
    @genxiong2695 7 місяців тому

    Never thought you can have so much fun with FART!

  • @audramcleod4881
    @audramcleod4881 6 місяців тому

    It's so nice to watch this makes me happy

  • @tunnelrabbit2625
    @tunnelrabbit2625 7 місяців тому +2

    This works. Some european pig farms do this. Liquify the poo before pouring it in.

  • @pamelabratton2501
    @pamelabratton2501 Місяць тому

    Pee and poop, both underrated and NECESSARY!

  • @nilspalmer7407
    @nilspalmer7407 6 місяців тому

    The PURE JOY it gives a man to blow sth up he made HIMSELF must be outta a different world 😂 i see y mr gridlessness got excited there

  • @oakleyjack7600
    @oakleyjack7600 7 місяців тому +1

    In the early 80s I was in Korea in the Army and most all houses cooked and heated with methane. They all had a fenced concrete backyard slab that they kept pigs in, and up close to the house was a concrete slab covering a concrete pit with clear plastic lines that run into the house to supply methane where it was needed.

  • @Adnancorner
    @Adnancorner 7 місяців тому +2

    What a nice family. I wish I had one like that. :)

  • @EvilMmM
    @EvilMmM 4 місяці тому

    i just can't stop watching this videos...

  • @CanadianDreamer
    @CanadianDreamer 7 місяців тому

    WOW that looks like so much fun! 😀

  • @debbiecollins1154
    @debbiecollins1154 7 місяців тому +2

    Poor Rose she has to be on pins and needles just wondering if her girls or homestead is going to blow up🤣🤣😜😂

  • @claudiasmith5257
    @claudiasmith5257 7 місяців тому

    Oh WOW ~ fantastic 👍🏻🙋🏼‍♀️❤️😎

  • @cnrmcdonnell
    @cnrmcdonnell 4 місяці тому

    The burn test shows how clean it is 👍

  • @integratedhatespreader
    @integratedhatespreader 7 місяців тому +3

    That's a lot of bovine feces. Reminds me of the guacamole I had yesterday. 😂🤣

  • @joohop
    @joohop 3 місяці тому

    You've Got A New Subscriber From Aberystwyth , Wales
    Bless Up

  • @rocdajacable
    @rocdajacable 7 місяців тому

    "Dung" is a Biblical Hebrew "word" that actually is a Weapon.
    Im so glad you are teaching your Daughters self survival and Defense at the same time.

  • @cheeseymccheese7249
    @cheeseymccheese7249 7 місяців тому

    Your a dad like me. Thank you for that

  • @russellwatters5891
    @russellwatters5891 7 місяців тому +3

    I've watched a few of ya'lls videos this week, ya'll have it going on. The girls I believe could survive a hurricane here in Florida...lol 😂😅 Love what ya'll are doing ❤

  • @Steve-pk9ok
    @Steve-pk9ok 3 місяці тому

    You are a really fun dad.

  • @def9216
    @def9216 7 місяців тому +2

    Great stuff!

  • @melchorkaamino208
    @melchorkaamino208 7 місяців тому

    nice, Super Akezia loves gold panning, gem-stones hunting, and watching her piglets farm

  • @Stomby85
    @Stomby85 7 місяців тому +1

    That was awesome!

  • @DIGIT9
    @DIGIT9 7 місяців тому +2

    Love that stuff ! Great experiment !

  • @michaelmount76
    @michaelmount76 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video guys

  • @patprop74
    @patprop74 7 місяців тому +2

    If ever you find yourself near the Montreal area, there is a center called Complexe Enviro Progressive, It's a dumpsite that pretty much converts, livestock waste and byproducts into natural gas somewhat like you are doing but on a much much much grander scale, they do guided tours which is actually rather interesting.

  • @josephstoermer2441
    @josephstoermer2441 7 місяців тому

    Awesome video once again! 👍❤️😎

  • @BeelzeKid
    @BeelzeKid 2 місяці тому

    this video aint a desaster ... you look like a fun farm dad and you have my like !

  • @richardsolomon8076
    @richardsolomon8076 7 місяців тому

    Good shit team, 💪off grid even more 👏

  • @Pujaanggara_
    @Pujaanggara_ 7 місяців тому +1

    I love it. And hope someday becomes homesteader

  • @donaldharrison7821
    @donaldharrison7821 7 місяців тому +1

    You my friend are too funny

  • @dustinpribble1546
    @dustinpribble1546 6 місяців тому

    Family fire play.... parenting win!

  • @glennwilck5459
    @glennwilck5459 7 місяців тому +3

    You should make a hot Dave commercial and cover him in methane bubbles..

    • @Gridlessness
      @Gridlessness  7 місяців тому +2

      I’ll ask him and see what he thinks about that!

  • @thekeisarion3119
    @thekeisarion3119 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks again

  • @MC4175
    @MC4175 7 місяців тому +1

    Coolest mad scientist father of the year

  • @kellstat
    @kellstat 7 місяців тому

    That disaster was amazing!

  • @x-manus2476
    @x-manus2476 7 місяців тому +1

    you sir { and big Murph } just renewed my faith in humanity, I think we are going to make it after all. Now if you can turn those Road Apples into potato pancakes we'd have it in the bag, and that sounds better than the Crickets and mealworms their trying to make us eat

  • @adverzuz4330
    @adverzuz4330 7 місяців тому

    best content I've seen in a while

  • @pappytron
    @pappytron 7 місяців тому +23

    In safety training, for the coal mines, we were told that methane was most explosive between 5 - 15%. Give that a shot...

    • @Gridlessness
      @Gridlessness  7 місяців тому +5

      That sounds like the right mix for methane and air (~20% O2), with pure Oxygen it should be ~5 times that....

    • @-IsleOfSkye-
      @-IsleOfSkye- 7 місяців тому

      Approved

  • @OG-Everthing
    @OG-Everthing 26 днів тому +1

    this guy is amazing :)

  • @roberttimmermans6614
    @roberttimmermans6614 7 місяців тому +1

    Hands down that was the funniest thing I've seen for awhile 🤣😁

  • @MM-fb9fi
    @MM-fb9fi 7 місяців тому +1

    Man you must have the most patient, tolerant family in the world. Greatly enjoyed the video. Carry on. As I am sure you will. hahaha

  • @oldson4053
    @oldson4053 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow. so awesome.

  • @Rhys_Beer
    @Rhys_Beer 3 місяці тому

    Reminds me of what they do in acorn land labs very cool stuff

  • @marcuspoe9353
    @marcuspoe9353 7 місяців тому

    very good for vegies too!

  • @dfoltz268
    @dfoltz268 7 місяців тому

    Can’t wait for video “Number 2” 😂. All jokes aside the first video was “Good shit” 😂😂
    Love everything you Rose and your beautiful daughters do up there! ❤

  • @quitroutinelivingourdream2529
    @quitroutinelivingourdream2529 5 місяців тому

    I love how laid back your girls are and they give you that look like .....dad😒
    Lol

  • @williamwoehl3868
    @williamwoehl3868 5 місяців тому

    Biodigesters are absolutely amazing

  • @donniev8181
    @donniev8181 7 місяців тому +1

    It's funny, the girls are like 3 little versions of Rose telling Jeff not to blow the house up.