DarkAero 1 - Full Assembly Discussion!
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- A closer look at the full assembly of the DarkAero 1 airframe and answers to common questions that came up after unveiling the airplane on its landing gear.
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i've been following for quite some time and it's fantastic to see how far this project has come. wish the dark aero team a 2022 full of amazing results
This is quite incredible, I hope to see it fly as well! I've been following you for quite a while now and you guys seem to know very well what you are doing, and it's a joy to watch. Keep it up!
Thank you for this update. I follow your aircraft design and construction developments with great admiration and respect. Very impressive what you have achieved so far. Good luck and have fun with the next part. And all the best for this new year.
You guys are amazing! I can hardly wait to see it fly.
Awesome to see this beauty getting finished! Will love to see it fly !
As always, great work Ryley! Our excitement grows with each video you post!
The amount of knowledge you share is amazing ! Such great content ! Can't wait to see it fly !
So cool seeing this project progress and nearing completion, thanks for the update
Starting to look like a fabulous aircraft. From an aesthetic perspective I think the 'dark aero theme' should be retained, just a clearcoat to the carbon rather than paint as shown in some of the earlier renders, maybe twin stripes in a vibrant colour eg viper green/yellow/coral orange on one wing to match any additional colours (prop tips and step markings etc)? two questions I guess, 1) will there be a step up onto the wing step zone and will this be retractable also? 2) I'm sure this has been worked through a number of times design wise, but the canopy bubble 'windshield element' seems quite far aft, thus putting it quite close to the occupants, might this literally be, too close for comfort if the aircraft is designed for several hours of flight in a long range brief? It may just be the lens you are filming this that makes the windshield look significantly aft of the firewall? Anyway looks super athletic as far as light aircraft, keep up the good work and happy new year from the UK.
This is so awesome! Love the mission and the build quality!
This so cool. I'm just bumbed that I didn't stumble upon this project sooner. I can't wait to see it take flight, and I wish you lads a safe voyage.
Its great seeing this come together. Looking forward to seeing it fly.
Absolutely amazing what you have accomplished guys. Keep it up!
Amazing project, been really great to follow from start to finish how you have progressed your ideas from thought to design to physical realisation, I am very curious to see your testing go ahead as obviously it is quite an advanced and unique design. I only wish the best for your team and can’t wait to see the dark aero in the skies maybe even here in a land down under one day!
So pleased for you guys. Been watching for... a long time. eager to see further progress. I'm going to be watching.
love what you guys are doing - keep sharing - onwards and upwards
Please please bring in Wasabi to help flight test. I’d lose my mind seeing y’all partner with Elliot. Great work guys!
Great work! Looks so low drag and fast. Love the landing gear.
Beautiful piece of workmanship
congratulations. your hard work is paying off. i really look forward to watching more of your content.
Can't wait to see this thing fly! What an awesome project! Good luck!
Awesome update, we all want to see this beautiful machine flying.
Engineering at its finest. Keep up the great work, guys!
You guys are doing an AMAZING job... Looking forward to your first flight and your first sale...
Beautiful job guys. Truly looks like its going 200ktns while standing in a place. Looks like Pagani of the sky!
Very excited to see this beautiful bird fly! You guys rock!
Amazing project. Glad to see videos more often!
Looking Great! Can't wait to see it fly. I'm staying tuned in, so Hurry up!!! LOL
Thanks for clarifying everything! :)
Being able to roll somthing around isnt impressive, but how quick qnd how little effort you put into the motion says everything about the aircraft! Amazing :)
I am amazed by the quality standard of this beautiful plane, gongratulations.
So cool. Can't believe you built a whole thermoforming machine for the canopies only to move on and scrap that idea completely. Lots of dedication. The outsource vs. make in-house decision is never a clear-cut one. Keep up the amazing work!
Wait till you see all those development costs filter down to the kit price you pay, then you may not like it as much.
Great job guys, I can’t wait to see fly
Finally, was wondering how you would sort the engine intake.
Awesome.
Yeah they have it backwards. They need a larger opening and faster air flow for cooling. The expansion chamber to slow the air down is useful for getting the pressure up for the engine intake, which they apparently haven't made yet. So strange.
You guys are awesome. This is what I love about engineers
Wow, thanks Riley. I had made a couple points and asked questions about the gear on your previous video, and you answered those exactly - I suspect those were my questions you were answering. So thanks. :)
I realized as you were talking about weight distribution that this thing is LIGHT - carbon fiber, with a big engine hanging on the end. Of course the main gear has to be forward in order to have proper weight distribution. Didn't think of that until you mentioned it.
I look forward to your next update!
such a nice job! I don't know you guy's, but I'm proud to see how far you made it on the project!
What you guys are doing for kit GA, is amazing. Your open scientific method really is stepping up the game in the space. Here's hoping you sell lots and push GA to wider audience and after that, you get copied a lot and more innovation restarts in this space. In short, hoping you guys become the Model T for planes.
Looking fantastic guys!
It's really quite the beautiful piece. Coming along so well.
can't wait to see very first flight :)
So far well done on such a beautiful masterpiece
Looks to be coming along nicely.
Can’t wait to see you guys win lots of awards at OSH! You deserve it!
So proud of you guys!
Great work guys. This thing is beautiful.
Congrats guys!
Keep up the good work! Amazing airplane! If it does 3/4's of what you claim it'll do it'll be incredible in everyway even still!
Good stuff. Can't wait for your flights.
Amazing progress.
Looking good guys. Very impressive!
Great work guys. Can't wait for the Spring flights.
Pumped to see this thing fly!
This is so cool... I hope to see one of these in person some day.
Waiting for the amazing results in the near future guys...keep it up 👌
Good work - I have a couple of curiosities.
What locking mechanisms have you used for all your fasteners? Split pins, Locking wire, stiff nuts e.t.c.?
Also, with it being a composite structure, that will be built in house by you. What inspection regime do you have to ensure that it has been manufactured properly? And also, how are you going to track the fatigue index management of the airframe.
Regular large area NDI Mapping? At the very minimum full scale large area NDI should be done on the composite to pick up any areas of inclusions or delamination? How are you planning to manage this through the aircraft life? Will you be carrying out NDI post test flight and every say 25FH during testing period? One thing what concerns me, is the amount of raw holes which have been drilled through primary structure, these should be checked for anomalies during testing periods, and at a suitable lifing interval thereafter.
Again, great work, I am genuinely interested and able to offer some advice if you would like any. I've maintained composite aircraft my entire career that fly above the speed of sound and pull 9G, so may be able to share some experience.
Wow, just found this channel randomly, every exited to see where this goes!
Looking good guys!
These guys designed the aircraft. They are engineers, they know what they are doing. Meanwhile armchair nobody's question their design choices... Gotta love the internet.
i don’t think there is anything wrong with people asking questions or making comments. i think you will find there are many people watching who ha e aviation expertise. it doesn’t detract from the hard work and great achievements of these brothers.
OP is probably right. Although some critical review is warranted on any project. As long as the critic has a logical and fact based foundation for their perceived grievance.
I am a longtime follower, and a real fan of 96% of what they do. I post tough questions on rare occasion but am not going out to smear their commendable effort.
Almost all of their design choices are sound from a functional and construction standpoint.
The aircraft will undoubtedly fly, and I don't think they will be far off from their lofty performance estimates, either. This probably is a 275mph airplane as it sits. There is no reason why it cant fly that fast and that far. Or carry that much. It can, and it will, and they will achieve success in those areas.
My critique is of the philosophic and artistic kind.
Aesthetically, the rudder is all squared-off and looks out of place, as everything else is rounded. The turtle-deck and rudder outlines are not up to the same Aesthetic standards as the rest of the plane.
Philosophy wise, It uses split-flaps for the rudder which are great at creating a significant portion of drag as they generate in lift. Great on the wing of a hot ship like the FW-190 or Super Tucano. Not the Rudder of a propeller plane. The cases where you need the rudder most, when you ask the largest deflection, I.e. slow, high AoA, and high power setting, as in a Vx climb or go-around on landing, it works as a speed brake right when you need less drag. Not to say it cant work, because obviously they showed the space shuttle, but the Shuttle cant go-around on landing, and it doesn't have 5hp/lb torquing a propeller around its thrust-axis. The shuttle has no propulsion torque, it needs brakes more than rudder. Outward-deflecting rudders were used on the LongEZ but that aircraft didn't need much of any rudder at all. The rudders it had were plain flaps.
Then there is the "Why" go all the effort to attain 275mph on 200hp, as your first product, in the first place? E.g. 250 mph is nearly as fast, and would allow a significantly lower landing speed via larger wing. 1.21x larger, to be exact. 79ft^2 vs 66ft^2. (18.75 vs 22.73 Lbs per SqFt wing loading). 66ft area is the same as Reno IF1 racers that weight half as much. (500 empty 750 loaded vs DA=775/1500). And those planes are a handful to land for non-expert fliers. So this one will be heart racing fast on landing for people who are more hands on builder than stick and rudder fighter jocks.
The old Lancair 235-360 had 76ft of wing area and weighed about the same As DA. You can see DA is in another category of performance above all the 4cyl Lancairs. Having 10ft less wing area and slightly more power.
Performance wise, its a winner. - But why compromise everything at the expense of attaining that last 10% improvement in speed, when it costs so much everywhere else? Especially traffic pattern and landing.
The answer is Performance sells.
And they are selling a lot.
They are very smart with a great work ethic and are investing a large input of time and money, dotting their i's as they go, doing everything "Right" and by the book. So they almost certainly do deserve their success.
But, it hasn't flown, its mostly hype until they test fly and determine if its going to be a sale-able product to average pilots. I suspect along with high wing loading, at least high for its chord Reynolds number, it will also have a really entertaining stall behavior. (Though I've revised my earlier dire estimate slightly after seeing their planform taper ratio is nearly rectangular, which should help).
Its a great product for its intended purpose. But its intended purpose: aka "Philosophy of Use" was very obviously conceived by non-pilots who have never felt that pucker factor trying to land a hot ship, let alone when experiencing the fatigue of a long trip, or at night... Nor have they ever lined up on a cornfield to simulate an engine out. You go out and fly at some corn at a buck-20 something and tell me you wouldn't be tempted to apply a little too much aft pressure about 20-feet up?
If you do, you will die.
You gotta put the gear up and the nose down and hit that shit at 80-something because you gotta keep the wing flying all the way.
I don't think those observations are invalid.
Great progress can't wait for the test flights
I really enjoy this channel and want to see you guys succeed. Thank you and good luck.
Enjoying the build!
Amazing design and execution. You are a great team!
Thanks for the update...
Finally you understand the cooling flow is controlled by the exit area. Glad you read my comment from a while ago. Now you need to learn about up stream diffusion, which vastly improves your cooling duct efficiency, because the majority of the compression can happen without the confinement of duct walls. If you make your inlets larger, the flow will be slower, lower drag, and cool your engine better.
its beautiful. great job
Looks like a modern composite version of the Osprey GP4. As a fellow engineer and plane builder, I appreciate your approach to all phases of development!
Does look similar, but also many differences.
I looked at building gp4 back in 90s. It's a pretty aircraft.
Went with F1 rocket instead.
Osprey has 360 not 540 engine, different canopy, much much different rudder
But both designed for same mission
Rocket probably has more room inside plus better performance, so good choice. I also thought about a GP4, but I already had a Grumman Cheetah, so I built a small single seat aerobatic plane you see in the picture, a Corby Starlet.
As always, thanks for sharing your amazing project. Can’t wait for the upcoming video captioned “Turn the Volume Up”.
Sending love from Toronto. You guys are incredible!
Awesome keep it up waiting to see it fly
Loving the progress on this project. Once this thing flies, I bet the sub count will skyrocket so fast. Love everything you guys are doing
Great job, well done!
That looks sick!
beautiful aircraft guys. nice job.
be safe, i am rooting for you guys
Congrats that you've finally got the plane on its feet so to speak. I've been scratch building radio controlled planes for the past 40 plus years. Although a full scale plane involves a lot more work. Regardless of the plane's size, the idea of satisfaction to see your plane fully assembled and on its landing gear is an amazing and unforgettable experience. Once again I am happy for you all you for your accomplishment.
The gear configuration reasons are lessons I learned well over hours of frustration in KSP.
Beautiful!!
Looks beautiful.
Awesome! Keep on chugging away!
Amazing Aero.
Awesome looking machine.nice work 👍
A very pretty looking aircraft. Keep up the good work :)
outstanding!
So you've got all the jigs/designs/tools now, how long to make a second? So cool!!! Congrats guys!!!
Super super super work. Eagerly waiting for the maiden flight.
I'm happy to see some new blood pumped into General Aviation, its exciting to see new aircraft designs become dream to reality and the DarkAero is something to look forward to and while I'm sure it has its place what I hope to see one day is a new true 4 seater designed to be comfortable for X-country, and also affordable.
Gorgeous! 👌🏻
You guys must be excited. Such a wonderful project. If I was only 30 years younger. 🇨🇦
Beautiful aircraft
the plane looks so cool
The plane looks beautiful! Keep it up!
Looks great👍👍👍
Looks right. Probably is right. Nice work.
It would be interesting to see an accounting of development costs and timelines when the plane is ready for production. It looks fast standing still!
It is very exciting to see your plane coming along! Question: will the back landing gear be able to handle a grass field emergency landing? Will the forward angle of the rear gear make a bumpier landing? I am just wondering what is going to happen to the plane if the back landing gear hits a pot hole or something like that.
Great looking airplane.
You've created a beautiful looking aircraft.
Thank you!
Work of art !! Simply beautiful design.
I don't recall whether you pressure/leak tested the fuel cells.... we are all looking forward to the maiden flight. This is going to be a great 2022 for you.
Your work is really impressed me. ❤
Great looking landing gear guys! All three wheels look exactly the correct size and may even land on turf or grass! Kudo’s!