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For those wondering how DTG washes, it depends how you print your garment, how well you pretreat it/cure the garment, and the quality of ink you’re using. We wash our DTG prints (and put them in the dryer) with no problems at all. DTG makes printing a breeze.
Depends a lot on the t-shirt too. Lots of higher quality inks and pretreatements are falling after few washes missleading people, who blame the ink brand, but it's the t-shirts that fails the good print. There is difference between cotton and "cotton".
What I really want to know is how I can be sure when I order a T shirt that *I don't get one with a vinyl/ rubber/plastic/ other stuck-on decal instead of an actual print.*
I used Printful to print a multi-colored design via DTG and I was not very impressed with how the design faded after each wash, nor did I like the chemical smell that the shirt had when I first opened the packaging. Moving forward, I think that I'm gonna only use screen printing. Great Video!
DTG looks great the first time you wear it....but then it gradually starts falling apart with every wash. Screen printing is far more durable. I have screen printed tee shirts that I have literally worn for 20 years and they still look fine. The images on my DTG shirts started flaking off within ONE YEAR, even with cold water wash and gentle dry.
I work with both screen printing and dtg and while dtg has higher resolution than some screen printing processes the dtg is very limited in what you can print. Some dtg machines won't take vector files and you are limited to the type of garment you can print. Overall I'd rather stick with screen print because of the speed, durability, and the ability to print on more types of garments
I have sent numerous photos of mine to printers and they are just about the same to me. If you are using 1 - 2 colors, you can go way faster with screen and I get that. But if you want a realistic tee, DTG preserves that. A lot of my clients do want the cartoonish look of hand-drawn art. A screen printer told me recently that the top of the line DTG machines are going to be around $50k and will need new heads several times a year and they are $1K each. I suppose you could start out with a $15K machine at first or two and then work up to the high-end stuff.
Right! It really depends on both the printer and customer's budgets and needs. Thanks for adding your two cents! We love hearing everyone's experiences.
I agree screen printed plastisol ink washes better but the DTG when cured right looks pretty good. I have seen 2 and 3 year old DTG prints still going strong.
Shirt Agency I agree. However, I would like to see the durability of this particular design long term. I've yet to see any DTG hold up great long term with white ink. Great video by Bella Canvas btw!
Forget plastisol. I make my sim process inks out of green galaxy mixing system. All you have to do is match the colors. I discharge the base. I use Wiliflex spot process plastisol occasionally when sep studio separated. I also use InkSeps CWB plastisol but it doesn’t matter which I use all are going to look like your dtg but be done in a tenth the time.
Found this video helpful in deciding what print style to use for a run of merch, thank you. And I just realized that I'm watching a Bella Canvas video... which happens to be my favorite shirt brand to use!
I'm a screen printer! In reference to screen printing: "There are three to four blues in this artwork but we simplified it down to 1." "And that's where we're going to see the biggest difference between this and DTG." One of the advantages of getting your artwork screen printed is that you can use more vibrant colors. A screenprint can use multiple blues, whereas DTG only uses 1 blue. Question: Why the 45 line screening? I do 50 for manual printing; can't you do at least 55 for automatic machines? I don't think this was a fair comparison.
Yeah. We used to run CMYK on a lot of stuff with crazy detail and it looked fantastic. Bitch to set up but looked amazing and I had a few test print shirts that the prints outlasted the actual shirts.
We have both, DTG takes a lot of time to make large quantities, must of the time for 50 pieces or more with 3 or 4 colors we use screen printing it all comes down to how many colors the job needs, for low quantites with many colors DTG is the way to go
Really helpful video. So pretty much DTG cost more and looks better depending on the graphic. These Bella video's are good because they really help you figure out a lot of the early stage decisions i.e. what print process, kind of shirt etc. thanks yall, appreciate it. Ive watched a lot of them.
Regarding image quality, I'm surprised you only compared resolution. What about colour vibrancy? It's well known that screen printing produces more vibrant colours than DTG.
new to the whole t shirt business and process this was very helpful I like the DTG finished product but also appreciate the screenprint and the value of it which allows for more products being made thanks for sharing
I think they purposely screen printed these at such a low lpi to make the DTG print look superior just to push sales. Output at a higher lpi, burn on higher mesh counts and you can make the DTG look bad in comparison.
Johnathan Macaw is correct. If and only if, you are doing a design with multiple colors AND also a very intricate design like the one used in the video, you would more than likely have to go with DTG Printing. With that said, Silk Screening is hands down, KING. It is superior over and above all other forms of printing. And here is some more VERY important information when it comes to using DTG Printing. DTG machines print using cyan, magenta, yellow and black (CMYK). When you convert an amazing looking digital file from RGB to CMYK, (the designs you create on your computer use RGB) many colors go “out of gamut.” Simply put, they can't be reproduced using just CMYK. In my opinion, any company that uses DTG, especially for Drop Shipping, should make it loud and clear what problems can arise when printing shirts. Maybe they do now, not sure. But if you didn't know, now ya know. I hope I am saving people from a whole lot of problems they didn't know exists with DTG Printing Technology. Finally, the video was great in its ability to show a difference when someone has to deal with such intricate art work.
DTG is the future. The only advantages Screen Print currently has is it's better for large volume and may hold up better after washing. However, both of those two things can be bridged as technology improves.
Screen Printing is doomed because now people can print their own t-shirts on demand through amazon and other outlets... just one t-shirt at a time... No need for large inventory of t-shirts that will never sell...
Screen printing is ART and holds more value to me. If you sell DTG more than a screen printed tee that's a rip off to me. I'll gladly buy a $50 screen print but would never buy DTG for more than $30.
I am on a manual Vastex and print at 55 lpi.... These guys were on a ROQ auto and went down to 45 lpi, my guess is they wanted the screen print to look noticeably different. The first time I watched this video before I started to Sim Process I really didn't understand but now that I crank out photo prints on a manual trust me they could have gotten a better print. But the real test is what will the DTG look like 10, 20, 60 washes later
I've been printing for 40 years, including 4 color high end process. Why did they use such a large dot? A 55lpi would have worked much better as a 4 COLOR PROCESS. The negative in the white underbass would suffice as the black.
at 65 with a 300-320 mesh i get result really close to dtg costumers can't see the difference i even have screen printer telling me i did it with a dtg. i work similar with simulated process.
Shirt Agency headache? You’re comparing. Make it honest. You are putting 45 lpi up against a digital printer? You need to keep the Roque rocking. I’m all about Rocking with Roque and powering the print. I wish Ryonet wouldn’t even sell those dtg printers. But they have to do what they have to do. You won’t catch me with one. I have a small run system established that flies and let’s face it. That would be the only advantage of dtg, for small runs. You’re kidding yourself making it about quality. I choke my base and interlock my halftones. I have accurip and sep studio but on a print like that I would manual sep It and hit it at 65 lpi.
BathingWookie Only difference between the 2 consoles are the controllers and the Xbox controller's much better. (PS4 owner) hopefully getting an Xbox within the next month
Derick Bryant .You are living in the past. For best quality DTG wins hands down. I would not wear a screen print pile of paint. Mass quantities where quality is not issue then screen printing will do for the cheapie t shirt.
Every style has its benefits. Sublimation has its place, vinyl, screen printing, dtg, etc...There is no "better", but there is a, more what is right in a specific situation. Good luck to all in their apparel endeavors. 🙌🏻
It doesn't. Screen printing can give you a lot more than you can see here in this vid. They showed the worst, just to sell you DTG and etc. Best is to have both to be fare
All of the tests I have had made at Printful have used Bella Canvas-- it's a great shirt with a light weight feel. My success of printing with Printful is spotty tho, especially with process spot colors. I don't think DTG is the best process for spot colors, especially on black fabric. Do you have such a review?
It is my understanding that DTG has great resolution but I find many cons. The main one it that images wash away menaning that screen printing gets an upper hand.
Thank you for your comment! Have you had a chance to view some more of our content on other videos on this common misconception? DTG technology has come along way!
Thank you for your comment! Have you had a chance to view some more of our content on other videos on this common misconception? DTG technology has come along way!
Screen printing is a little bit more durable after multiple washes. Some people find more fading with DTG, but if you get the settings right with DTG you can eliminate some of those differences on the wash test front
doxrox4 definitely. Wondering why they didn't go 55 lpi. I feel like we could pull a print pretty similar to dtg. I would like to do this as a discharge UB with all WB colors. Hand and durability would be greater than DTG. I also print high end dtg, but can outprint dtg all day in quality and durability.
Thank you for the simple explanation as we have done screen printing for a black and grey logo but found it so expensive. Another printer advised me in using DTG instead but my boss just did understand it would be as good as the screen printing until I got him to watch this video yah!!!! now we are printing with DTG
But how do they FEEL? I can't wear T-shirts that have that plastic feel to whatever is on them because if I sweat at all, that part sticks to my skin and is uncomfortable. Trying to figure out if DTG still has that feel.
How do you get the pretreat residue off of the shirt before you ship to the customer? In this video it looks like the pretreat was pretty heavy, but when it was done looks retail ready. Thanks for your time, love these videos!
Screen print will always wash better and last longer, The advantage of dtg will always be the resolution. Screen print will last dtg will provide better image quality. Your Choice. I am a screen printer.
We don't look at the two as better or worse - each printing technique serves a different purpose! Screen printing is great for high volume, where as DTG can be better for lower unit or orders with tons of colors
You are definitely a newbie than. Screen printing has better quality. While digital feels like plastic taped on a shirt. But you will only know when you find out.
I can see one person's comment about "how DTG washes" and that me wonder why the interviewer did not ask the printing person .. Which process produces an image holds up better to general wear or repeated laundering??? Okay, I just saw your follow-up video, where the printing guy spends several seconds talking about "washability" and "the traditional feel" being better with screening. I know it's asking a lot, but since you're grinding out videos, maybe you could show the comparison between a repeatedly washed, screened shirt and a DTG-printed shirt that's been exposed to the same number of washings.
Hey serious question here if I want to build a Brand for tshirt shorts hats etc and money isn't an issue which should I buy dtg or screen print there's a ridiculous gap in price between them and I would like to not only make my own brand but eventually have a high quality street brand?? Any help needed money is not an issue
Hi, It is so remarkable that someone else is researching how to start their own brand at the same time as me. I was actually going to ask what screen they used, and if a higher mess count would provide a more clear screen print. also I just bought a 4 clolor 2 station press from amazon. It seems to be chinesium, but I hope it lasts long enough for me to turn a profit, and buy the incredible equipment some of these youtubers use. check out: Reyestheentrepreneur Kenyonken It is so hard to filter through the bs, and product pushing.
Sure! all our fabrics are great for screen printing and DTG. But if we HAD to rank...100% cotton performs the best for both, followed by heather CVC, then triblend and flow.
When I had a shirt digitally printed it did not take weeks. He mentions what he does to black shirt. Do they do that same treatment to white shirts? This is something that should have been addressed.
look into the M&R M-Link X i have my own sample prints sent to me from M&R and i can't even touch the quality and feel of the print with screens. Don't forget these machines use CMYK inks to print so if your creating designs in RGB on your computer, your screen is backlit and using colours that are not in the pantone range. Certain colours will be altered due to limitations in CMYK.
Guys what about the texture quality? Does it feel embedded with the cloth, or simply glued on it? I dont like the feeling of a design "glued" on the shirt...
You need to choke your base, interlock your black and print at 65 lpi. I can screen print to the same resolution as a slow dtg printer. You can’t replace screen printing. I know Epson, Brother, and now Ryonet would love to have you make tons of videos like this but screen printing will always be best. Pretreating, heat pressing, heat again. Come on! You know the lpi should’ve been at least 55. Also, you have to control the halftones. Accurip is easy but choking a base and interlocking is where it’s at.
How many times did the screen print "cure"? Try to beat 1200 dpi. Seems old timers are against DTG, it only gets better and better. Also, the price is much cheaper due to technology. No need to burn 6+ screens, it takes 1 minute to print with DTG vs the amount of time it would take to burn and set up a screen printer.
I'm curious to know where you picked up this info about choking base, and interlocking white/black, etc. My own separation techniques involve 3 and 4-color interlocking, or enhancing the colors trapping them under the interlocked white and black and then using more transparent white and black inks to simulate tints and shades... more of a technique I call "overlocking". The problem with going to this level of separation is that you can't generate gradients of separations and then interlock... instead I will take a full hue extraction and interlock each of the colors at let's say 67.5 degrees for example, and then I run the black/white interlock at 22.5 degrees. You can take the black/white selection and then "chop it out" from the colors to create a true 3 & 4-color interlocking... but the little pieces it creates in the rosettes can be hard to expose and rinse out properly. So instead you can take the selection of white/black dots and contract the selection a few pixels before knocking out from the colors... creates a bit of trap or hybrid between full interlock and full overlock. Changing the inks is where it starts to get really interesting, but doesn't always work out. Using a clear base and adding just a little bit of white, can make a great tinting-white, and same with a black... with some of these techniques I can almost work completely linear without needing to adjust the curves of anything before outputting. The drawback of interlock and especially 3 and 4-color interlock is dot-gain/loss compensation... but I've found you can almost make these variables work for the print instead of against it. Still... a DTG print and a Dye-Sub print can work great in their own ways when done properly. There is still a lot of room for improvement in DTG, I'm about to get some used machines myself and start trying my halftone interlock rips and color-correction methods on the DTG. Using very high LPI or doing 1200dpi diffusion interlock seps I bet I can make a way better choked-base and more saturated and corrected color prints for these DTGs. All too often the inkjet print companies are failing when it comes to the halftones/diffusions because they don't take any consideration of where those specks of color are going, they don't interlock the colors in the separations it is just extremely high dpi dithering. I think that even an LPI of 65 or up to 85, 100, etc... with full interlocking seps and a choked base white that matches the colors... would create a more vibrant and color-corrected DTG print... the simulated halftone dots will allow more of a specific color to be used in those areas, and let the halftones do the blending instead of the extreme diffusion... I don't know but it will be interesting to test out.
which method do those vintage style Johnson Motor Company shirts use? Yuu can not feel the print, feels like the rest of the shirt and its very light saturated so you can look trough it. I can not imagine its DTG and it isnt sublimation as well because its cotton. So i guess its like a screen print but very lightly done, i dont know if thats possible. Just curious because i have some shirts from them.
I wonder why they limited the sim process to 6 colours. They could've got that blue better for sure. 55lpi of course as others have also stated. Personally I love a screen printed image over any dtg. DTG just isn't there yet for me.
One thing i dont like with graphic t shirts is when the print is too thick and stiff... lol. anyway, im wondering if one of these printing methods has more of a light feel almost like its part of the shirt?
With larger graphics like this, it does feel a little thicker especially on a darker shirt. If you print with DTG on a white or light colored shirt - the print will feel much more a part of the fabric.
Doesn’t speak about the longevity of each option... does screen printing last longer... does it sit higher onto the fabric? What option begins to chip the fastest....
you would of had way more detail in the screen print with 60 lpi and above. 45 is a joke? saying its easier for the screen printer to use low lpi is like upselling to dtg or stealing business from sp to dtg ( in house or not). i wanna see a high lpi process with durometer specs, angles, off contact and ink type then compare it to dtg. oh on a manual btw ;)
I would like to see DTG print HD as high as 3 milimeters with a diameter of 0,8 millimeters, and 45 lpi is really a joke. We normally do 62 lpi with 9 colours print and to be fair, if an order of just a few pieces then I would use DTG.
@@chaiketkong if you really wanna get technical, discharge the batch, contour cut sublimated paper then press lol that might be better detail than the dtg too
@@manooti can't do, I don't print poly, I always do full colour discharge if the customer ask for high quality print as long as they don't mind the cost. ;)
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For those wondering how DTG washes, it depends how you print your garment, how well you pretreat it/cure the garment, and the quality of ink you’re using. We wash our DTG prints (and put them in the dryer) with no problems at all. DTG makes printing a breeze.
Depends a lot on the t-shirt too. Lots of higher quality inks and pretreatements are falling after few washes missleading people, who blame the ink brand, but it's the t-shirts that fails the good print. There is difference between cotton and "cotton".
@@BpKoksan Which shirts would you recommend?
@@BpKoksan Whats the difference? and what do you recommend
Thank you for being pretty much the only person to have side by side of them both
Would love to see a follow up after 15 washes :)
me too
Me too, and that is not a good CMYK separation also.
De Todo Hn that is spot color seperation.. for pic image they should have gone with cmyk...
spoiler DTG fails after 10
screen printed failed at 1.
What I really want to know is how I can be sure when I order a T shirt that *I don't get one with a vinyl/ rubber/plastic/ other stuck-on decal instead of an actual print.*
i use simple screen printing for black simple designs and dtg for multi color designs
Jonathan Macaw this was the comment i needed
but can you use CMYK Screen Printing for multi colors design
I used Printful to print a multi-colored design via DTG and I was not very impressed with how the design faded after each wash, nor did I like the chemical smell that the shirt had when I first opened the packaging. Moving forward, I think that I'm gonna only use screen printing. Great Video!
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That’s because Printful is a terrible quality company to use. Consider using a local printer
DTG looks great the first time you wear it....but then it gradually starts falling apart with every wash. Screen printing is far more durable. I have screen printed tee shirts that I have literally worn for 20 years and they still look fine. The images on my DTG shirts started flaking off within ONE YEAR, even with cold water wash and gentle dry.
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@@monicaxiao5471 hello, our company is interested. how can we contact you?
This video obviously made me see the difference... Great video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it! We appreciate the feedback.
I work with both screen printing and dtg and while dtg has higher resolution than some screen printing processes the dtg is very limited in what you can print. Some dtg machines won't take vector files and you are limited to the type of garment you can print. Overall I'd rather stick with screen print because of the speed, durability, and the ability to print on more types of garments
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I have sent numerous photos of mine to printers and they are just about the same to me. If you are using 1 - 2 colors, you can go way faster with screen and I get that. But if you want a realistic tee, DTG preserves that. A lot of my clients do want the cartoonish look of hand-drawn art. A screen printer told me recently that the top of the line DTG machines are going to be around $50k and will need new heads several times a year and they are $1K each. I suppose you could start out with a $15K machine at first or two and then work up to the high-end stuff.
Right! It really depends on both the printer and customer's budgets and needs. Thanks for adding your two cents! We love hearing everyone's experiences.
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I agree screen printed plastisol ink washes better but the DTG when cured right looks pretty good. I have seen 2 and 3 year old DTG prints still going strong.
Shirt Agency I agree. However, I would like to see the durability of this particular design long term. I've yet to see any DTG hold up great long term with white ink. Great video by Bella Canvas btw!
Forget plastisol. I make my sim process inks out of green galaxy mixing system. All you have to do is match the colors. I discharge the base. I use Wiliflex spot process plastisol occasionally when sep studio separated. I also use InkSeps CWB plastisol but it doesn’t matter which I use all are going to look like your dtg but be done in a tenth the time.
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Such a nice colour for screen printing because pasted colour make begineer like me impress to learn how to mix the colour more well.
agreed!
Found this video helpful in deciding what print style to use for a run of merch, thank you. And I just realized that I'm watching a Bella Canvas video... which happens to be my favorite shirt brand to use!
Love to hear that! So glad you found the video and it was helpful!
Hi，friend. We are a Chinese DTF products supplier. Are you interested in DTF printing?
I'm a screen printer!
In reference to screen printing:
"There are three to four blues in this artwork but we simplified it down to 1."
"And that's where we're going to see the biggest difference between this and DTG."
One of the advantages of getting your artwork screen printed is that you can use more vibrant colors. A screenprint can use multiple blues, whereas DTG only uses 1 blue.
Question: Why the 45 line screening? I do 50 for manual printing; can't you do at least 55 for automatic machines?
I don't think this was a fair comparison.
Agreed
they wanted dtg looks better over screen print, screen print its way better than that...
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Same here!
Yeah. We used to run CMYK on a lot of stuff with crazy detail and it looked fantastic. Bitch to set up but looked amazing and I had a few test print shirts that the prints outlasted the actual shirts.
Even though you get more detail in DTG, the screen printing results still looks way better for some reason.
I thought I was the only one. I like the contrast more on screen than the DTG. But this was 3 years ago so who knows how DTG tech improved. :)
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We have both, DTG takes a lot of time to make large quantities, must of the time for 50 pieces or more with 3 or 4 colors we use screen printing it all comes down to how many colors the job needs, for low quantites with many colors DTG is the way to go
Yes, exactly! It all comes down to the job.
Ricardo Flores does DTG hold up well after being washed many times ???
mega akkadian yes it hold up really well. Just make sure to use the correct temperature and pressure to make it last.
Ricardo Flores ok’ appreciate the info thanks 👍
thanks for the info
You didn't compare the quality of the two technologies! Fading, peeling off, how is it after mutliple washes?
That is because Screen printing is superior in that regard.
We Provoke Thought is it really ?
agree
Funny how they liked the comment, but didn't give a response
yes that is very important and I would like to know about that.
Really helpful video. So pretty much DTG cost more and looks better depending on the graphic. These Bella video's are good because they really help you figure out a lot of the early stage decisions i.e. what print process, kind of shirt etc. thanks yall, appreciate it. Ive watched a lot of them.
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Regarding image quality, I'm surprised you only compared resolution. What about colour vibrancy? It's well known that screen printing produces more vibrant colours than DTG.
good point!
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DTG has a long way before it is profitable on a commercial level, but definitely it could be the future of garment decoration.
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thanks guys for these helpful videos I learn something new every week! Thanks Shirt Agency :)
Norissa Harman so great to hear! Let us know if there's anything in particular you'd like us to cover.
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new to the whole t shirt business and process this was very helpful I like the DTG finished product but also appreciate the screenprint and the value of it which allows for more products being made thanks for sharing
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@@monicaxiao5471 No he's not.
I think they purposely screen printed these at such a low lpi to make the DTG print look superior just to push sales. Output at a higher lpi, burn on higher mesh counts and you can make the DTG look bad in comparison.
We have a photo real screen printing vid coming soon!
Can screen print match 1200 dpi? Can it do it in 1 minute? Match price for just one shirt with unlimited colors?
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Basura tu DTG porque parece una fotocopia pegada a una sudadera! lolll
yeap, thats what l thought
Johnathan Macaw is correct. If and only if, you are doing a design with multiple colors AND also a very intricate design like the one used in the video, you would more than likely have to go with DTG Printing. With that said, Silk Screening is hands down, KING. It is superior over and above all other forms of printing. And here is some more VERY important information when it comes to using DTG Printing. DTG machines print using cyan, magenta, yellow and black (CMYK). When you convert an amazing looking digital file from RGB to CMYK, (the designs you create on your computer use RGB) many colors go “out of gamut.” Simply put, they can't be reproduced using just CMYK. In my opinion, any company that uses DTG, especially for Drop Shipping, should make it loud and clear what problems can arise when printing shirts. Maybe they do now, not sure. But if you didn't know, now ya know. I hope I am saving people from a whole lot of problems they didn't know exists with DTG Printing Technology. Finally, the video was great in its ability to show a difference when someone has to deal with such intricate art work.
This was great, thanks Bella Canvas!
glade we could be of help!
DTG is the future. The only advantages Screen Print currently has is it's better for large volume and may hold up better after washing. However, both of those two things can be bridged as technology improves.
DTG is also like 18x the price of a 4 color screen printing setup
Very true! And we hope to get DTG there sooner :)
Screen Printing is doomed because now people can print their own t-shirts on demand through amazon and other outlets... just one t-shirt at a time... No need for large inventory of t-shirts that will never sell...
@@haveabeer123 dropshipping has its pros and cons as well depending on the scale of your business its much better to print shirts yourself
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Thanks yall
My experience is that silk screens hold up a lot longer and feel better
Finally someone answered my question. Thank you!!
Happy this helped you out!
Screen printing is ART and holds more value to me. If you sell DTG more than a screen printed tee that's a rip off to me. I'll gladly buy a $50 screen print but would never buy DTG for more than $30.
DTG all day. That and vinyl transfers (which can be used to make screens as well).
How do you make screens with vinyl transfers? Never heard of that.
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Very informative video, thank u, just a tiny suggestion, you could have used a better image for illustration.
i love the texture on screen printing , full color just not for tshirt :)
Very well explained - thanks a million - 🙏🙏
I am on a manual Vastex and print at 55 lpi.... These guys were on a ROQ auto and went down to 45 lpi, my guess is they wanted the screen print to look noticeably different. The first time I watched this video before I started to Sim Process I really didn't understand but now that I crank out photo prints on a manual trust me they could have gotten a better print. But the real test is what will the DTG look like 10, 20, 60 washes later
I've been printing for 40 years, including 4 color high end process. Why did they use such a large dot? A 55lpi would have worked much better as a 4 COLOR PROCESS. The negative in the white underbass would suffice as the black.
sweldon this is simulated process. The dots could be smaller but we have less headaches with a larger dot which makes jobs run faster.
Yeah! I am agree with you, even 65 Lpi & round dot is the best and you can get better results
at 65 with a 300-320 mesh i get result really close to dtg costumers can't see the difference i even have screen printer telling me i did it with a dtg. i work similar with simulated process.
sweldonn what do you think a screen print or a dtg ?
Shirt Agency headache? You’re comparing. Make it honest. You are putting 45 lpi up against a digital printer? You need to keep the Roque rocking. I’m all about Rocking with Roque and powering the print. I wish Ryonet wouldn’t even sell those dtg printers. But they have to do what they have to do. You won’t catch me with one. I have a small run system established that flies and let’s face it. That would be the only advantage of dtg, for small runs. You’re kidding yourself making it about quality. I choke my base and interlock my halftones. I have accurip and sep studio but on a print like that I would manual sep It and hit it at 65 lpi.
you missed out a very important point , that is the feel of the print on the shirt.
girl you have the most lovely skin tone
:) We're all very jealous of carissa's skin!
Great video, thanks!
Lmao the fact that people are seriously arguing about this shit is so hilarious
PentaFil I know right. It’s like an Xbox vs PlayStation comments section. (PlayStation is better)
BathingWookie Only difference between the 2 consoles are the controllers and the Xbox controller's much better. (PS4 owner) hopefully getting an Xbox within the next month
So what would you guys recommend, DTG?
Thank you, I'm looking into doing both!
Thanks very much, helps me out a lot 👍🏼
I loved the video.
Screen printing is much better than DTG.
Not at all actually. The modern new print tech is far far better than screen printing. Much higher quality and true full color.
Jackie Rolanta I'm in the process of starting my own t-shirt business
Derick Bryant .You are living in the past. For best quality DTG wins hands down. I would not wear a screen print pile of paint. Mass quantities where quality is not issue then screen printing will do for the cheapie t shirt.
Jackie Rolanta nope, the colors look weak, photo-real is for sublimation, nothing bewts silk screening onto white tees.
Every style has its benefits. Sublimation has its place, vinyl, screen printing, dtg, etc...There is no "better", but there is a, more what is right in a specific situation. Good luck to all in their apparel endeavors. 🙌🏻
This video helps a lot. I didn't know the screen printing looked like that in comparison to DTG.
It doesn't. Screen printing can give you a lot more than you can see here in this vid. They showed the worst, just to sell you DTG and etc.
Best is to have both to be fare
Thanks really informative for new guys with ah clothing line
Great video! Well done.
thank you very much
All of the tests I have had made at Printful have used Bella Canvas-- it's a great shirt with a light weight feel. My success of printing with Printful is spotty tho, especially with process spot colors. I don't think DTG is the best process for spot colors, especially on black fabric. Do you have such a review?
drink every time he says "white underbase"
Thank you Bella Canvas.
Thank you!
Wowww amazing
manual screen printing thanks!
It is my understanding that DTG has great resolution but I find many cons. The main one it that images wash away menaning that screen printing gets an upper hand.
Thank you for your comment! Have you had a chance to view some more of our content on other videos on this common misconception? DTG technology has come along way!
Thank you for your comment! Have you had a chance to view some more of our content on other videos on this common misconception? DTG technology has come along way!
Hi guys. Nice video. Can I ask what is the pre treatment product you applied?
Thanks
Great video, but what happens after washing and normal wear/tear with the clothing? Is there a difference?
Screen printing is a little bit more durable after multiple washes. Some people find more fading with DTG, but if you get the settings right with DTG you can eliminate some of those differences on the wash test front
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Yep, I agree Chris Studer. DTG can not compare to screen for durability.
doxrox4 definitely. Wondering why they didn't go 55 lpi. I feel like we could pull a print pretty similar to dtg. I would like to do this as a discharge UB with all WB colors. Hand and durability would be greater than DTG. I also print high end dtg, but can outprint dtg all day in quality and durability.
Who wants a mass of paint on one s chest? That s what you get with screen printing.
I enjoyed this video thank you for sharing. I understand the difference between screen printing and DTG now. :)
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Thank you for the simple explanation as we have done screen printing for a black and grey logo but found it so expensive. Another printer advised me in using DTG instead but my boss just did understand it would be as good as the screen printing until I got him to watch this video yah!!!! now we are printing with DTG
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@@monicaxiao5471 you're so annoying and I'm reporting your as.s.
AWESOME! I needed this video!
Glade we could help! Be sure to check out more helpful content on our channel!
But how do they FEEL? I can't wear T-shirts that have that plastic feel to whatever is on them because if I sweat at all, that part sticks to my skin and is uncomfortable. Trying to figure out if DTG still has that feel.
Hi there! There are a few components that can lead to print feeling that way. Like dark shirts vs light shirt, how large the graphic is, etc.
This is helpful. Thank you Bella+Canvas 🤙🏼
Great video and great information. Thank you.
I want to know What's the print durability of each method?
How do you get the pretreat residue off of the shirt before you ship to the customer? In this video it looks like the pretreat was pretty heavy, but when it was done looks retail ready. Thanks for your time, love these videos!
Hey Mark! That would be a question for Cole at Shirt Agency!
BELLA CANVAS Thanks for the reply. This UA-cam channel (and BC as a brand) is the truth! Keep crushing it guys! ❤️🔥
@@markperrett6123 Thanks so much!
Screen print will always wash better and last longer, The advantage of dtg will always be the resolution.
Screen print will last dtg will provide better image quality. Your Choice.
I am a screen printer.
One more thing, 45 DPI is not the limitation of screen printing LOL I have printed on to t-shirts upwards of 300 DPI
I'm a newbie at all of this, but yes the difference is major, obviously, the DTG is a much better choice...
We don't look at the two as better or worse - each printing technique serves a different purpose! Screen printing is great for high volume, where as DTG can be better for lower unit or orders with tons of colors
You are definitely a newbie than. Screen printing has better quality.
While digital feels like plastic taped on a shirt.
But you will only know when you find out.
Great video. Needed a good explanation and this did it.
Glad we could help!
Believe me, it doesn't
I can see one person's comment about "how DTG washes" and that me wonder why the interviewer did not ask the printing person .. Which process produces an image holds up better to general wear or repeated laundering??? Okay, I just saw your follow-up video, where the printing guy spends several seconds talking about "washability" and "the traditional feel" being better with screening. I know it's asking a lot, but since you're grinding out videos, maybe you could show the comparison between a repeatedly washed, screened shirt and a DTG-printed shirt that's been exposed to the same number of washings.
used screen printer if only 1design for many t shirts..use dtg for many designs for many t shirts.
Hey serious question here if I want to build a Brand for tshirt shorts hats etc and money isn't an issue which should I buy dtg or screen print there's a ridiculous gap in price between them and I would like to not only make my own brand but eventually have a high quality street brand?? Any help needed money is not an issue
Hi, It is so remarkable that someone else is researching how to start their own brand at the same time as me.
I was actually going to ask what screen they used, and if a higher mess count would provide a more clear screen print.
also I just bought a 4 clolor 2 station press from amazon. It seems to be chinesium, but I hope it lasts long enough for me to turn a profit, and buy the incredible equipment some of these youtubers use.
check out:
Reyestheentrepreneur
Kenyonken
It is so hard to filter through the bs, and product pushing.
Math Don thank you! I will check them out
Cost per print was not mentioned i wonder
love it
Can you advise on the best fabric blends for screen printing and digital printing! Looking to print on soft blend fabrics, thanks
Sure! all our fabrics are great for screen printing and DTG. But if we HAD to rank...100% cotton performs the best for both, followed by heather CVC, then triblend and flow.
This was great. Thanks for the info!
does dtg make an impermiable layer? like will it make my chest sweat cuase its like wearing a plastic bag on the chest or its permable?
Very helpful
When I had a shirt digitally printed it did not take weeks. He mentions what he does to black shirt. Do they do that same treatment to white shirts? This is something that should have been addressed.
Why when I use spreadshirt or such my designs come out terribly? Are there better dtg printers if so who does the best work
look into the M&R M-Link X i have my own sample prints sent to me from M&R and i can't even touch the quality and feel of the print with screens. Don't forget these machines use CMYK inks to print so if your creating designs in RGB on your computer, your screen is backlit and using colours that are not in the pantone range. Certain colours will be altered due to limitations in CMYK.
I thought the same. Mine looked faded!
Vinyl is the bane of my existence.
Can an actual real picture in highj resolution be printed in DTG and have the same quality let say a t-shirt, mug and hoddie? Thank you!
Guys what about the texture quality? Does it feel embedded with the cloth, or simply glued on it? I dont like the feeling of a design "glued" on the shirt...
Same I wanna know too..
It’s smooth with the shirt. You can’t feel the artwork
You need to choke your base, interlock your black and print at 65 lpi. I can screen print to the same resolution as a slow dtg printer. You can’t replace screen printing. I know Epson, Brother, and now Ryonet would love to have you make tons of videos like this but screen printing will always be best. Pretreating, heat pressing, heat again. Come on! You know the lpi should’ve been at least 55. Also, you have to control the halftones. Accurip is easy but choking a base and interlocking is where it’s at.
How many times did the screen print "cure"? Try to beat 1200 dpi. Seems old timers are against DTG, it only gets better and better. Also, the price is much cheaper due to technology. No need to burn 6+ screens, it takes 1 minute to print with DTG vs the amount of time it would take to burn and set up a screen printer.
Luis Castellon Hi, Is DTG durable than screen printing?
tu DTG no es capaz de estampar sobre sudaderas 1000 t-shirts en un día
Interlocking Seps & Halftones FTW! :D
I'm curious to know where you picked up this info about choking base, and interlocking white/black, etc.
My own separation techniques involve 3 and 4-color interlocking, or enhancing the colors trapping them under the interlocked white and black and then using more transparent white and black inks to simulate tints and shades... more of a technique I call "overlocking". The problem with going to this level of separation is that you can't generate gradients of separations and then interlock... instead I will take a full hue extraction and interlock each of the colors at let's say 67.5 degrees for example, and then I run the black/white interlock at 22.5 degrees. You can take the black/white selection and then "chop it out" from the colors to create a true 3 & 4-color interlocking... but the little pieces it creates in the rosettes can be hard to expose and rinse out properly. So instead you can take the selection of white/black dots and contract the selection a few pixels before knocking out from the colors... creates a bit of trap or hybrid between full interlock and full overlock. Changing the inks is where it starts to get really interesting, but doesn't always work out. Using a clear base and adding just a little bit of white, can make a great tinting-white, and same with a black... with some of these techniques I can almost work completely linear without needing to adjust the curves of anything before outputting. The drawback of interlock and especially 3 and 4-color interlock is dot-gain/loss compensation... but I've found you can almost make these variables work for the print instead of against it.
Still... a DTG print and a Dye-Sub print can work great in their own ways when done properly.
There is still a lot of room for improvement in DTG, I'm about to get some used machines myself and start trying my halftone interlock rips and color-correction methods on the DTG. Using very high LPI or doing 1200dpi diffusion interlock seps I bet I can make a way better choked-base and more saturated and corrected color prints for these DTGs. All too often the inkjet print companies are failing when it comes to the halftones/diffusions because they don't take any consideration of where those specks of color are going, they don't interlock the colors in the separations it is just extremely high dpi dithering.
I think that even an LPI of 65 or up to 85, 100, etc... with full interlocking seps and a choked base white that matches the colors... would create a more vibrant and color-corrected DTG print... the simulated halftone dots will allow more of a specific color to be used in those areas, and let the halftones do the blending instead of the extreme diffusion... I don't know but it will be interesting to test out.
very informative
Which t-shirt printing is best high quality printing machine anyone help pls
What print type is more durable?
which method do those vintage style Johnson Motor Company shirts use? Yuu can not feel the print, feels like the rest of the shirt and its very light saturated so you can look trough it. I can not imagine its DTG and it isnt sublimation as well because its cotton. So i guess its like a screen print but very lightly done, i dont know if thats possible. Just curious because i have some shirts from them.
I wonder why they limited the sim process to 6 colours. They could've got that blue better for sure. 55lpi of course as others have also stated.
Personally I love a screen printed image over any dtg.
DTG just isn't there yet for me.
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Is it possible to print just 2 tees?
What program did you use to separate the design?. Thanks!
Ask you dtg print color like that silkscreen print color
One thing i dont like with graphic t shirts is when the print is too thick and stiff... lol. anyway, im wondering if one of these printing methods has more of a light feel almost like its part of the shirt?
With larger graphics like this, it does feel a little thicker especially on a darker shirt. If you print with DTG on a white or light colored shirt - the print will feel much more a part of the fabric.
That design should have been printed CMYK process.
Doesn’t speak about the longevity of each option... does screen printing last longer... does it sit higher onto the fabric? What option begins to chip the fastest....
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Bella Canvas you and I both know that this screen printed job could have been better prepared....
you would of had way more detail in the screen print with 60 lpi and above. 45 is a joke? saying its easier for the screen printer to use low lpi is like upselling to dtg or stealing business from sp to dtg ( in house or not).
i wanna see a high lpi process with durometer specs, angles, off contact and ink type then compare it to dtg. oh on a manual btw ;)
I would like to see DTG print HD as high as 3 milimeters with a diameter of 0,8 millimeters, and 45 lpi is really a joke. We normally do 62 lpi with 9 colours print and to be fair, if an order of just a few pieces then I would use DTG.
@@chaiketkong if you really wanna get technical, discharge the batch, contour cut sublimated paper then press lol that might be better detail than the dtg too
@@manooti can't do, I don't print poly, I always do full colour discharge if the customer ask for high quality print as long as they don't mind the cost. ;)
I wana join your company i know screen printing very we
Very well
What kinds of inks are used in the dtg machine?
Hi there! They're water based inks.