I can see the chat on the enemy team now. "Hey Leopard, can you do something useful?" "Screw you guys, I don't want to run into their best scout, the SP1C"
@@BruhPK Since I am a true "Actually, Jingles" enthusiast, I shall say "Actually, Phoenix", it's spelled Mr. Nesbitt. "Somewhere in the vicinity is Mr. Nesbitt of Harlow New Town. " For anyone wondering the skit is called "How Not to be Seen" by the Monty Python group
Jingles there is only one thing left to do......ask another player on the enemy team for their replay.....Also there is one spot on the map that is VERY hard to hide at but if u can do it you should be fine. All the way up in the VERY top RIGHT corner are a group of bushes that you can hide in. Enemy tanks can't see you unless you fire or they drove into proxy range of you.
Hopefully, but that depends on someone having replays enabled and still having that one. Not likely IMO. As for the top-right corner, is it even possible to get there only driving 650m and not get spotted by anyone on this team?
Much speculation about zenzen333. Looked up his stats, he is a below average player but does have a plethora of medals. It is interesting to note he has 8 Invicible medals (for remaining undamaged during at least 5 games in a row, his best is 8 games!) and also 17 Raider medals (for remaining undetected and cap out to win), maybe that says something. But then Steven Schaff (who drove the FV4202, the paper tank according to Jingles) said he was flipped in a house in C8. Rewatching the replay indeed shows that nobody really came close to spot him if he was in C8. First, the TS5 almost spots him and at the very end, the 53TP and the EBR also come close to spot him. If he indeed was on his side IN a house, the house might very well have broken line of sight for those three tanks that came closest.
Well then combining this information with Avalon304's speculation that he booked it to A0 (there is a bush line that if you are right in the corner you can turn the bushes solid and nobody actually checks behind those bushes throughout the match, also the travel distance checks out) we have two incredibly stupid situations where a top tier tank takes himself out of the picture either through brilliant hiding or by being an idiot and managing to flip himself into a building.
The Monty Python sketch "How Not to Be Seen" can so easily be applied to this clip - by surviving the battle the Leopard prototype has demonstrated the value of not being seen
Salutes Logan for bringing Monty Python into the conversation; always a winning tactic! "Not Being Seen" is classic MP and always in properly questionable taste, like all MP.
That dude on the Leo has 68k battles with 515 average wn8 (292 wn8 on the last 30 days in 1485 battles). I guess he makes this (hiding game) for a living in WOT.
When you think about it, maybe he found a new way to have fun with this game :D . "Done with piercing steel, let's see if I can stay undetected a whole game".
@@Lightsheder I looked up his stats too. The guy has 18 raider medals. I don't think we're looking at a bot. We're looking at someone who's just not playing WoT, but hide and seek. ... and goddamn that sonofabitch actually won. The absolute madlad.
The mightily malingering machiavellian murder mystery of the missing medium metal machine* on maybe the most malevolent map, malinovka, with many millions of metallic mortalities
You know most of the time and I know it's hard to believe but I bet he doesnt care. That's why he hid. I would like to see where he hid. So I may do the same thing on console.
Clanmembers to the leopard driver: You cant hide forever! Leopard Driver: Hold my beer... i would love this thought, someone found a way to piss off ppl in this game on a pacifistic level. :D
Hmm thinks long and slow...BIG THINK...is it possible he has camo net, max conceal, brother in arms, a bond ventilator, chocolate, natural cover and skills of a ninja? I need to look up the stats of this tank.. If he pulled off something I have theorized was possible. Especially if he also has the bond sight upgrade as well...he can see and not be seen.
After watching the video 3 times (once at X2 speed) and watching NOTHING but the mini-map the last 2 times, it is painfully obvious that the Leo PTA went to A0 (zero) and set up behind the trees in the corner. Not a single tank on Alukat's team got within proxy-spotting distance of that location. The 2nd time I watched it I thought the hapless Obj 430 might, but then he zigged to the lower ridge of the hill and headed down. The EBR 75 zagged at the windmill and crossed away from proxy-range towards the end and his poor view-range combined with the pretty exceptional camo-rating of the Leo PTA (if still and never firing) resulted in his start-to-finish stealth. The Island at K1 is MUCH less likely as the SP 1C WAS within view-range of that crossing and I am pretty sure that is more than 680 meters from enemy spawn, but A0 is not. About 99% sure I solved the mystery - but the commentary was exceptional none-the-less.
One guy in the comments claims to have spoken with the paper tank and that guy says the he managed to flip himself into a house at C8. In either case the distance traveled assuming the south-most spawning location check out.
I thought so too, but in the post game stats of Alukat's replay upload, you'll see he only drove 680 meters, so there is no way he would have made it there. That island is at least 1km from his spawn.
Mr Tav if you look at his account you can clearly see that’s his goal A couple invincible medals and also 17 raider medals which pro players only have around 2 because of how rare they are to achieve
@@Alucard-gt1zf i got one raider medal in bert the avenger....i just sit in cap circle 15 meter behind the bush and keeps tracking anyone that moving towards me
I think this too. The only tank that approches that spot in the entire game what the EBR in the last seconds of the game and he maybe not have been close enough to spot him.600 meters sounds right.
@@ivopimenta9635 but, the ony issue i see with that is that at least some tanks shoudlve been spotted by the Leo, indicating an enemy is close. im pretty sure the EBR has 6th sense
@@adamtennant4936 A1 is to far from their spawn. A0 is more likely the spot. Pretty op spot to remain undetected. Ever if you drive by and get spotted no one would think of it as the spot...
@The Mighty Jingles: A0. There is a bush in corner. Nobody of Alucards team drove to the windmill or north of it. They were passing low ground. so this is the only position, the Leo PTA could be hiding.
Im pretty sure he was in A0 at the redline behind "cornerbushes" I like to use that place with mediums. Wont even get spotted while shooting if played right.
I think he was in the A0 corner tucked as far in as possible, if you rewatch it nobody goes close enough to proxy that corner they only drive along the ridge while searching.
I bet the Leopard has gotten his tank glitched into the rock where the Jagdtiger has camped the entire game. Thats also explains why their team sucked so much, they were amused at a tier IX trapped by a glitch
Michiel Voetberg He would’ve been proximity detected when everyone was going over the hill, they were too close to that spot. Some of them even drove right around the rock.
You get a medal for being not spotted the whole game. I got one, in a Chi Ri of all tanks! That was just a weird case of everybody going to one side of the map and I went to the other side in a game that was over in 4 minutes. Nevertheless I saw a lot of enemies on the map (by radio probably). I did not know there was a medal for it. I did not try to remain unspotted, it was just a weird game.
@@Gothtecdotcom I thought TOG's started the match prespotted As for capturing the base, did you have the crew out pushing to get enough speed to get there?
The only way Leo pulled that off would be some bush at the corner of A0. Rewatched the video at 16x speed and nobody drove up there. Everyone drove in the lower ground and then EBR didn't drive all the way to the corner. It also looks to be in the 680 meters range of spawn. Also, there might be slight chance of him just disconnecting or having to go afk.
He only drove a few meters. Did not fire a single shell Has no spotting ...I think he glitched out of the map through the ground. Because I suspect the game only "tracks" (sorry for the pun) horizontal (X and Y) movement.
Leo P zenzen333 went to KO from start, then drove through water to K1. Or their game glitched out and tank was removed from game. Jingles send a message to zenzen333 and ask him what happened
on 2:08 u can see leopard pt on top right corner(b10) spoted for a sec or 2..thats last time u can see him entire game,so possibly he is in rigt top corner hide in the bush.They didnt check a 10corner...EBR was close but not to close to proxy spoting Lepoard pt
Sorry but it is the Leo who was spotted not the Leopard. The dott wich indicates his last know position disapears when the Leo got respottet at 2:40 and vanishes entirely when the Leo gets killed at 2:45. Also the Leopard never gets spotted or there would be a blue dott indicating his last position. He never gets spotted sorryu
Max your camo, net it up, and learn your terrain. This map is one of my favorites as a scout and I haven’t played the game in years. There are locations I will never give up as a scout. Those spots come with experience. Malinovka holds most my spotting records, even ones I’ve submitted for The Mighty Jingles!
1 Just because usually the team with better top tiers wins doesn't mean that's a guarantee 2 The SP1C was useless and survived anyway, so the fact that the enemy top tiers didn't die doesn't mean they're capable
Hypothesis: The Leopard PTA hid behind the bushes in the very top corner of the map (A0) but also had 100% camo crew + camo net making it near impossible for him to be spotted. The bushes in the top corner can conceal a *lot*, a T95 hid there once and nobody knew, except for the T95, obviously.
Jingles your videos are the only thing related to World of Tanks that does not fill me with disgust rage over this game. I humbly thank you good sir, for your commentary will always grace my face with a very rare and brief yet still treasured smile.
680 meters is from his spawn to the south east corner. The Tiger P never went within 50 meters, only about 60-70 meters. That's how he stayed out of sight. I've used the spot myself in my TD's. It's only good when someone's spotting for you since you can't see in or out of it due to all the bushes & trees.
you can see in Leo not in TD man plus you saw Tiger P shootimg his gun plus LEO is not a small tank he would have been seen from 70 meters regardless Leo also didnt spot anyone
@@rtwiceorb770 you clearly didnt read the comment, you cant look in or out, so ofcourse the Leo didnt get spotted, and what is this bullshit on 70 meters and size, with enough camo this is easely possible, get your shit straight
This guy zenzen is famous for refusing to play actually. We had two games in a row with him being in 60TP, Polish tier 10 heavy and all he did in both battles was to stay in base and hide until battle is over. First time he got reported by whole team, second time we killed him and reported him again, he's still playing though, so reporting system is working as intended.
No one scouted the bushes at the base of the clifs, they went along the top and they went north of the marsh but never got close enough to the cliff base to trigger him.
i have solved the mystery! pulls mask off enemy team (chorus) Old man Basket of Tomatoes! *grumbles* ..and i would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids!
Back in the days of old in this game, a lone cruiser 3 was taking a stroll to the hill on the far side of Malinovka, the cruiser wanted to watch the birds as they migrate but before he even reached the the small lake at the base of the hill, an American artillery fires a shot while eating his cheeseburger, that shot then nuked the poor cruiser and rustled his jimmies in a manner that will be never forgotten
Sooo... I've looked up this guy's account... basically you don't wanna know what I've had to look at but I'll share this much with you: he seems to do this kinda stuff on a regular basis. ;P
There is 2 possible places where the Leo could be hiding in this match: 1st is a semi obvious spot in A0, I think the UDES 03 was trying to get up there to have the Leo as cover/support. The 2nd one is around C9, at the bottom of the cliff, no-one went there, so it is possible. That is the two places i would've checked if I was in this battle :)
I think he was in the top right corner on the hill, I’ve hidden there before, there a nice amount of bushes and trees there so if you just sit still the enemy team need to pretty much be in proximity spotting range to see him witch no one was that I could see
He could be in the bushes at A1 right in the corner...it’s fast enough to have made it without being seen, and the Obj. 430 swept through the bottom road instead of next to the windmill so he wouldn’t have proxy spotted him, and the EBR near the end of the game has awful view range so he wouldn’t have found him anyway
In this game is a great example of 95% of the player base. Just because you are in a med/heavy/lights doesn’t mean you have to spot or go city. To maximise his game Alukat should have gone in and spotted. He knew where all they enemy tanks were and it was a reasonable risk with high rewards
5 років тому+15
With only 680m, he couldn't go far. The only available answer is that he fell into limbo, because of a bug somewhere. How could still have a bug on Malinovka map, after all that time... I don't know.
Maybe that was just his goal for the game. When I get bored in WOT I sit in a location and move from cover to cover and see how long I can keep one person’s tracks blown off so maybe it was something like that
From iron cometh strength From strength cometh will From will cometh faith From faith cometh honor From honor cometh iron This is the Unbreakable Litany. May it forever be so. IRON WITHIN!! IRON WITHOUT!! Awesome vid Jingles.
He was probably in K1, across the river in the bushes, he is in a fast medium and would be able to cross the river without drowning. But thats just a therory, a Tank theory... thanks for watching!
@@TchaikovskyFDR thats a little over half the map, by my calculation/estimation if he spawned in the south forest, as medium tanks commonly do, he could have easily reached A10 in only 680 meters, as a matter a fact, that makes me even more sure of the fact than ever.
Is it possible to get to that southern land over the water? The PT A is a pretty fast tank so maybe it made it there? But that might be more than 680 meters
robothawkgaming Based on range (when the dude points at a tank and the map distance between him and the tank) I really don’t think he was in the island, more that he hid out on the hill
@@theextratank7792 Wherever he hid: no one got spotted. At all. So he hid somewhere you cannot look out from. I half wonder if he got stuck in a building and/or went through the map.
It is possible to get to the island, but only with a FAST and TALL tank, and only if you drive just right. There are vids out on youtube. Probably less than 10% of all tanks could possibly make that journey and not drown.
No one went to lower right corner of the map. And it probably went around the edges of the map to the northwest region, and then drove around the edge of the lake in the north to reach enemy spawning location. Or, somehow he managed to cross the lake in the southwest corner.
I went through my old posts on a Facebook group (WoT Noobs) to find this one I made from 2017. "was just in a battle with a fellow named uptreeninja, and he spent the entire game driving around pusing down all the trees on the map, as top tier in a T-54. Time to quit for the night." So yeah, takes all kinds. One hides in a corner and this one literally drove around pushing down all the trees on a map.
I've managed to remain unspotted for the entire match on that map. I sat in G3 in a Leopard scout tank with a good crew. Everyone just drove in circles around me :) Nobody ever bothered to drive to the middle of the field to check, they just assumed they could have spotted any tank that might have been there. As for that Leopard PTA, that has got to be a de-spawn glitch.
A0 just look at his previous game on this map, uploaded to wotreplay, He likes going North-West and camping bush the whole game, thats what he mostly did on the other replays
Speculation: the Leopard Prototype and the SP-1 were either A. private chatting with each other, through Discord, voice chat, or something, passing info about enemy positions, or B. were actually the same player on different accounts simultaneously, perhaps one on a desktop and one on a laptop next to him. Might go a way toward explaining how the Leopard knew where all the enemy tanks were and why the SP was so useless; he was actually a spy.
Most likely, that leopard encountered a bug, and dropped off the map. There were bugs like these a couple years ago, where tanks somehow got through the "surface" and lost in the void below.
My best guess is that the player behind the leopard using a bot program, that drives the tank to a sertain location on each map that is safe and allows him to remain undetected, as the battle starts. All the players can see him moving and then he can just pretend that he just lost connection. But in fact he he would really lost connection, the wehicle explodes when the battle ends and on the endplate he would be appear as a destroyed tank.
As for the theory of the Leo PT-A being the best player on the team: 68k games played, 43.8% Win-Rate. How bad would the others be? Almost 1600 games played in the Skoda T 40 and LEfefefefefefe and other premium tanks mostly. I dare say, that guy was botting hard. But if you're being top on damage in a Tiger P in a Tier IX game, the enemy team must have been one of those I regularly end up in.
Patrick Mundhenk not an unreasonable assumption. But bots tend to be spotted pretty readily. So unless the player found their hideyhole and THEN engaged the bot, it’s still a mystery.
The Leopard prototype was just a ploy and a camo! He was actually driving a futuristic Tier 20 stealth tank of American origin! So naturally he drove past everyone else, all cloaked :D
By setting up a 1:10000 scale 1km by 1km grid and using a compass it can be determined that to go to the island at K1, while only driving 680m, the Lep PTA would have had to spawn at H8, J8, or K8. As far as I can tell no one, not even arty, spawns outside the 0 line on Malinovka East Spawn. Mathematically K1 is not possible. The same method indicates that the bushes at A0 are a possibility if the Lep PTA spawned around the G0/H0 line and went to A0 or spawned at the E0/F0 line and drove around a bit before the Lep PTA found his or her ultimate destination at A0. Alternatively, it could be a map glitch. Good Vid Jingles, better mystery. I'll get back to the salt mines now.
As far as I can see, there are two possibilities for where he went. Option 1: he hid at the bottom of a cliff, probably in the far southwestern corner of the map, somewhere where he'd only be spotted if someone randomly jumped off the cliff after him. Or option 2: the game glitched out and he either fell through the floor or got catapulted into space.
So i checked the leo stats.. he aint great. 43% winrate... all i can say is he is one damn good hider, and yes i check NA, RU, et ASIA, servers he is located on the EU server. 513 what ever it is.. This man is a damn ninja!
Jzolt WR doesn’t automatically make someone a bad player. I have a 47% WR, but I am a pretty good player. Don’t assume someone sucks because of their winrate.
He was probably near the central lake in the D6 square. There's a depression there that can cover your tank from almost all areas unless someone comes all the way up to spot you.
It's obvious that this guy brought his snorkeling kit and drove into the lake, no one suspected him of being there, afterwards he went back happily to his family not thinking about his comrads because they would have left him hanging anyway.
I say A0, and combine that with his serious low stats (almost bot like) free 300% cammo ratings (we know that they get it) it is very possible that he got not spotted there.
Live stealth tactics test? I've done something like this is WT. He was clearly trying not to be seen and didn't want to do any damage. But he also apparently didn't care about the score, experience, or the rest of his team. The only thing I can think of is that he was testing.
How-to Jingles WoT video:
1. Lower volume during intro;
2. Raise volume back up when Jingles starts talking;
Lmfaooo i blow my ears drums out every time
or you could just skip it
True story
3. Turn volume to 150% and rewind five seconds when Akizuki makes noise
So true
I can see the chat on the enemy team now.
"Hey Leopard, can you do something useful?"
"Screw you guys, I don't want to run into their best scout, the SP1C"
I got to read this.
So what happened is he actually drove from the spawn, to the map border, clipped through the map border into a match on Mines, and died there instead.
No, I just heard that he's ended up on a Minecraft server, and he's still there.
LOOOOOOOOL
I think it was one of my many disappearing shots on Ensk last round that killed him over on Mines.
@@donwanna3906 Well now I wanna know the AP value of a creeper vs a Leopard.
@@arcamean785 what!? creepers are clearly high explosive! ;)
Finally got featured by The Mighty Jingles with a replay of the underrepresented and unterrated Tiger P [achievement unlocked], thanks Jingles :D
:-)
U have any idea about the Leo?
@@cobalt_blue9713 A-0 in the corner i guess.
Well done, mate.
Congrats, mate! Them Tigers are good tanks, ain’t they!
How not to be seen:
1. Don't stand up
2. Don't pick obvious spot
Apparently this guy has learned the virtue of not being seen. Totally not the guy from Newtown. Fuck waht was his na- AH! Mister Nizbit!
@@BruhPK Since I am a true "Actually, Jingles" enthusiast, I shall say "Actually, Phoenix", it's spelled Mr. Nesbitt.
"Somewhere in the vicinity is Mr. Nesbitt of Harlow New Town. "
For anyone wondering the skit is called "How Not to be Seen" by the Monty Python group
@Timothy CHAN and all of his neighbors are killed
Mr.Nizbit, would you stand up please?
@@ivanorais9284 No, that is Mr. and Mrs. Whatson of Ivy Cottage. :)
Peaceful ninja. 68,000 battles.
He might not be of any use to the team...
But this player takes the game to a different level.
Jingles there is only one thing left to do......ask another player on the enemy team for their replay.....Also there is one spot on the map that is VERY hard to hide at but if u can do it you should be fine. All the way up in the VERY top RIGHT corner are a group of bushes that you can hide in. Enemy tanks can't see you unless you fire or they drove into proxy range of you.
Hopefully, but that depends on someone having replays enabled and still having that one. Not likely IMO. As for the top-right corner, is it even possible to get there only driving 650m and not get spotted by anyone on this team?
Maps only 1000m X 1000m so at max this was a straight line run, but who only travels in a straight line
@@stephenmoir7691 battleship players who make the change to world of tanks
@@stephenmoir7691 Battleship players? :D
he would have spotted and alerted someone to his location when their six sense went off.
Much speculation about zenzen333. Looked up his stats, he is a below average player but does have a plethora of medals. It is interesting to note he has 8 Invicible medals (for remaining undamaged during at least 5 games in a row, his best is 8 games!) and also 17 Raider medals (for remaining undetected and cap out to win), maybe that says something. But then Steven Schaff (who drove the FV4202, the paper tank according to Jingles) said he was flipped in a house in C8. Rewatching the replay indeed shows that nobody really came close to spot him if he was in C8. First, the TS5 almost spots him and at the very end, the 53TP and the EBR also come close to spot him. If he indeed was on his side IN a house, the house might very well have broken line of sight for those three tanks that came closest.
Medal hunter instead of Stat Padder :) NICE!
I also think: it was more a glitch than doing it on purpose
@@throdwobblermangrove6200 I think I agree with you.
Well then combining this information with Avalon304's speculation that he booked it to A0 (there is a bush line that if you are right in the corner you can turn the bushes solid and nobody actually checks behind those bushes throughout the match, also the travel distance checks out) we have two incredibly stupid situations where a top tier tank takes himself out of the picture either through brilliant hiding or by being an idiot and managing to flip himself into a building.
Ammunition is very expensive these days. I guess he finds it too costly to expend on tanks.
Legends say the Leopard is still out there...stalking its prey..
And at night, when the magic world of the server will close, he will safely return to its base.
or he found a box to curl up in and take a nap.
Leo PTA played like that because he wanted to get the best reward possible in WoT: exactly 69 base xp :D
@Chris actually it would be every 100 metres
They got the sex number!!! :B
and most likely even made a couple thousand credit profit xD
And who says that the upper tiers can’t make a profit
Nice
The Monty Python sketch "How Not to Be Seen" can so easily be applied to this clip - by surviving the battle the Leopard prototype has demonstrated the value of not being seen
Salutes Logan for bringing Monty Python into the conversation; always a winning tactic! "Not Being Seen" is classic MP and always in properly questionable taste, like all MP.
He clearly has learned the value of not standing up.
Curiously, he's the one who gets' the least exp .. so, yes indeed … he learned the value of not being seen.
That dude on the Leo has 68k battles with 515 average wn8 (292 wn8 on the last 30 days in 1485 battles). I guess he makes this (hiding game) for a living in WOT.
Bots gonna bot.
When you think about it, maybe he found a new way to have fun with this game :D . "Done with piercing steel, let's see if I can stay undetected a whole game".
probably a bot program...interesting though.
@@Lightsheder I looked up his stats too. The guy has 18 raider medals. I don't think we're looking at a bot. We're looking at someone who's just not playing WoT, but hide and seek.
... and goddamn that sonofabitch actually won. The absolute madlad.
The mightily malingering machiavellian murder mystery of the missing medium metal machine* on maybe the most malevolent map, malinovka, with many millions of metallic mortalities
Bravo!
Replace the word "tank" with "metal machine"
Awesome alliteration accepted :)
So, in short, the mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
some one likes V
So who's going to contact that leopard? We must get his replay!
Cool picture always nice to meet another RWBY fan
He won't do that... the results of this match are just too embarrassing for him and reveal how non-supportive as a team player this idiot is.
@@chaingun1701 Likewise
You know most of the time and I know it's hard to believe but I bet he doesnt care. That's why he hid. I would like to see where he hid. So I may do the same thing on console.
@@redknight1322 Or maybe he disconnected or had to go afk?
Clanmembers to the leopard driver: You cant hide forever!
Leopard Driver: Hold my beer...
i would love this thought, someone found a way to piss off ppl in this game on a pacifistic level. :D
Probably fell through map lol. Wouldn't be surprised.
You can also turn ships into subs in WoWs when hugging map border and getting rammed.
Everything is a multipurpose tool.
No such thing as bugs.....Only FEATURES! ................And there are no cheats for WOT or WoW. If you believe that .. I got a bridge to sell ya.
@@daveno8432 Most of what happens in wot and wow happens server side.
It's four in the morning and I'm obligated to compla-
Yes Jingles, back into the salt mines with me
New premium consumable Klingon cloaking devise. Get yours today while supplies last.
Lol
Hmm thinks long and slow...BIG THINK...is it possible he has camo net, max conceal, brother in arms, a bond ventilator, chocolate, natural cover and skills of a ninja? I need to look up the stats of this tank.. If he pulled off something I have theorized was possible. Especially if he also has the bond sight upgrade as well...he can see and not be seen.
After watching the video 3 times (once at X2 speed) and watching NOTHING but the mini-map the last 2 times, it is painfully obvious that the Leo PTA went to A0 (zero) and set up behind the trees in the corner. Not a single tank on Alukat's team got within proxy-spotting distance of that location. The 2nd time I watched it I thought the hapless Obj 430 might, but then he zigged to the lower ridge of the hill and headed down. The EBR 75 zagged at the windmill and crossed away from proxy-range towards the end and his poor view-range combined with the pretty exceptional camo-rating of the Leo PTA (if still and never firing) resulted in his start-to-finish stealth. The Island at K1 is MUCH less likely as the SP 1C WAS within view-range of that crossing and I am pretty sure that is more than 680 meters from enemy spawn, but A0 is not.
About 99% sure I solved the mystery - but the commentary was exceptional none-the-less.
Congratulations Mr. Dewitt, you solved it.
The PTA didn't spot EBR either, afair there is no dip for the A0 spot?
if you think about it, one of the tanks going there could not have the 6th sense, so all the more likely, as not everyone has the lightbulb
@@samwisethesoulless9734 If you do double bush nobody can spot you over 50m... but you can't see anybody over 50m either. Works both ways.
One guy in the comments claims to have spoken with the paper tank and that guy says the he managed to flip himself into a house at C8. In either case the distance traveled assuming the south-most spawning location check out.
Logically the only place that Leopard could have been is the island in K1. But, I don't think that's possible...
spoiler alert
maybe he got stuck at k4 in the water no one has line of sight and i don't think anyone got close enough to proxy spot
The TS-5 scouted K4 at 12:05, if that Leopard was there it would've been spotted
@@siftervinnie2inNFS 0.68 km is 680 meters almost 3/4s the width of the map, could be possible if he got spawned as far south as possible
I thought so too, but in the post game stats of Alukat's replay upload, you'll see he only drove 680 meters, so there is no way he would have made it there. That island is at least 1km from his spawn.
The hill OP bushes probably. Maybe he is hunting the impossible badges like "Survivor" and the other one? 😂
Mr Tav if you look at his account you can clearly see that’s his goal
A couple invincible medals and also 17 raider medals which pro players only have around 2 because of how rare they are to achieve
@@Alucard-gt1zf i got one raider medal in bert the avenger....i just sit in cap circle 15 meter behind the bush and keeps tracking anyone that moving towards me
@@MrX-un8cz it's still the rarest medal in the game
I say A0 in bush at very edge of map can stay unspotted in there
I think this too. The only tank that approches that spot in the entire game what the EBR in the last seconds of the game and he maybe not have been close enough to spot him.600 meters sounds right.
But the arty would probably detect him thoug
@@spingebill8551 A0, not A1. Top right corner.
@@ivopimenta9635 but, the ony issue i see with that is that at least some tanks shoudlve been spotted by the Leo, indicating an enemy is close. im pretty sure the EBR has 6th sense
@@adamtennant4936 A1 is to far from their spawn. A0 is more likely the spot. Pretty op spot to remain undetected. Ever if you drive by and get spotted no one would think of it as the spot...
It's up in the trees!
Edit : when your joke answer has more likes than your actual answer. Good job salt miners!
NOT THE TREES!!!
The jungle moved
Vietnamese tanks confirmed?
@The Mighty Jingles: A0. There is a bush in corner. Nobody of Alucards team drove to the windmill or north of it. They were passing low ground. so this is the only position, the Leo PTA could be hiding.
Im pretty sure he was in A0 at the redline behind "cornerbushes" I like to use that place with mediums. Wont even get spotted while shooting if played right.
I think he was in the A0 corner tucked as far in as possible, if you rewatch it nobody goes close enough to proxy that corner they only drive along the ridge while searching.
You right and he is a master in hiding with 12 radairs medals and 12 kolobanovs medals
He most likely would have been spotted going up he hill
00:28 *heart melts*
A0 , this team does not really checked that hill corner
I will take "Why use XVM, to not play the battle" for $200 Mr Jingles
I bet the Leopard has gotten his tank glitched into the rock where the Jagdtiger has camped the entire game.
Thats also explains why their team sucked so much, they were amused at a tier IX trapped by a glitch
Michiel Voetberg He would’ve been proximity detected when everyone was going over the hill, they were too close to that spot. Some of them even drove right around the rock.
You get a medal for being not spotted the whole game. I got one, in a Chi Ri of all tanks! That was just a weird case of everybody going to one side of the map and I went to the other side in a game that was over in 4 minutes. Nevertheless I saw a lot of enemies on the map (by radio probably). I did not know there was a medal for it. I did not try to remain unspotted, it was just a weird game.
You can get a medal for not being spotted and capturing the base, done that a few times, including in a TOG and an Arty!
@@Gothtecdotcom in a TOG? That should earn you an additional medal.😂
I think i got that medal once on Karelien in Tiger P
@@adrickherregodts4194 a freaking men.
@@Gothtecdotcom I thought TOG's started the match prespotted As for capturing the base, did you have the crew out pushing to get enough speed to get there?
The only way Leo pulled that off would be some bush at the corner of A0. Rewatched the video at 16x speed and nobody drove up there. Everyone drove in the lower ground and then EBR didn't drive all the way to the corner. It also looks to be in the 680 meters range of spawn.
Also, there might be slight chance of him just disconnecting or having to go afk.
He only drove a few meters.
Did not fire a single shell
Has no spotting
...I think he glitched out of the map through the ground. Because I suspect the game only "tracks" (sorry for the pun) horizontal (X and Y) movement.
drove a bit, found a hole in the floor, and stayed level. genius.
Leo probably got bored and decided that a more entertaining minigame was to ninja around.
Leo P zenzen333 went to KO from start, then drove through water to K1.
Or their game glitched out and tank was removed from game.
Jingles send a message to zenzen333 and ask him what happened
He never spoted anything so I would say glitch
K1 is more than 680 meters from spawn. i.imgur.com/Fgj0UIl.jpg
He probably rammed a rock/a building and fell to the "UNDERWORLD" map.
Lucian wait, but doesn’t falling in the under side of the map count as “driving”?
@@jkrull05
You stop falling after some distance.
on 2:08 u can see leopard pt on top right corner(b10) spoted for a sec or 2..thats last time u can see him entire game,so possibly he is in rigt top corner hide in the bush.They didnt check a 10corner...EBR was close but not to close to proxy spoting Lepoard pt
Well done Josip ! - That looks to be what happened - Checking the mini-map between 2:06 & 2:10, you can see it appear and then vanish.
Sorry but it is the Leo who was spotted not the Leopard. The dott wich indicates his last know position disapears when the Leo got respottet at 2:40 and vanishes entirely when the Leo gets killed at 2:45.
Also the Leopard never gets spotted or there would be a blue dott indicating his last position.
He never gets spotted sorryu
I think the more impressive feat is the fact no one on his team gave away his position.
Global chat was removed in WoT because of that reason there, team mates giving away coordinates to the enemy
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Max your camo, net it up, and learn your terrain. This map is one of my favorites as a scout and I haven’t played the game in years.
There are locations I will never give up as a scout. Those spots come with experience. Malinovka holds most my spotting records, even ones I’ve submitted for The Mighty Jingles!
1 Just because usually the team with better top tiers wins doesn't mean that's a guarantee
2 The SP1C was useless and survived anyway, so the fact that the enemy top tiers didn't die doesn't mean they're capable
Hypothesis: The Leopard PTA hid behind the bushes in the very top corner of the map (A0) but also had 100% camo crew + camo net making it near impossible for him to be spotted. The bushes in the top corner can conceal a *lot*, a T95 hid there once and nobody knew, except for the T95, obviously.
MultiGamer369 I’ve seen someone do it in a Maus.. They eventually got spotted because someone guessed but like.. bruh .-.
I think he was abducted by aliens because he turned up 3 days later and couldn't remember a thing!!!!
jono croft lol you are right
Correcto! This is WAY too low btw. Alien abductions aren't as popular as they used to be (sadly).
My best guess is that the PTA driver made a bet that he wouldn't get spotted for an entire match :P
Blockio1999 the dude has 17 raider medals so he’s literally a pro at hiding
This is the weirdest murder mystery I've ever seen. More like an epic survival story
Jingles your videos are the only thing related to World of Tanks that does not fill me with disgust rage over this game. I humbly thank you good sir, for your commentary will always grace my face with a very rare and brief yet still treasured smile.
One word: Aliens
*cues The X-Files theme*
680 meters is from his spawn to the south east corner. The Tiger P never went within 50 meters, only about 60-70 meters. That's how he stayed out of sight. I've used the spot myself in my TD's. It's only good when someone's spotting for you since you can't see in or out of it due to all the bushes & trees.
you can see in Leo not in TD man plus you saw Tiger P shootimg his gun plus LEO is not a small tank he would have been seen from 70 meters regardless Leo also didnt spot anyone
@@rtwiceorb770 it's smaller than my FOCH 155 & has better camo.
@@rtwiceorb770 you clearly didnt read the comment, you cant look in or out, so ofcourse the Leo didnt get spotted, and what is this bullshit on 70 meters and size, with enough camo this is easely possible, get your shit straight
This guy zenzen is famous for refusing to play actually. We had two games in a row with him being in 60TP, Polish tier 10 heavy and all he did in both battles was to stay in base and hide until battle is over. First time he got reported by whole team, second time we killed him and reported him again, he's still playing though, so reporting system is working as intended.
No one scouted the bushes at the base of the clifs, they went along the top and they went north of the marsh but never got close enough to the cliff base to trigger him.
Oi don't tell people about my spot, it's my spot... :D
i have solved the mystery!
pulls mask off enemy team
(chorus) Old man Basket of Tomatoes!
*grumbles* ..and i would have gotten away with it if not for you meddling kids!
Legend has it that the leopard pt a still hasn't been spotted in 49 battles
I like how the Leopard Prototype got 69 Exp lol even the game has a sense of humor of his ninja skills.
Back in the days of old in this game, a lone cruiser 3 was taking a stroll to the hill on the far side of Malinovka, the cruiser wanted to watch the birds as they migrate but before he even reached the the small lake at the base of the hill, an American artillery fires a shot while eating his cheeseburger, that shot then nuked the poor cruiser and rustled his jimmies in a manner that will be never forgotten
Sooo... I've looked up this guy's account...
basically you don't wanna know what I've had to look at but I'll share this much with you:
he seems to do this kinda stuff on a regular basis.
;P
Okay, now I wanna know what you've had to look at.
There is 2 possible places where the Leo could be hiding in this match: 1st is a semi obvious spot in A0, I think the UDES 03 was trying to get up there to have the Leo as cover/support. The 2nd one is around C9, at the bottom of the cliff, no-one went there, so it is possible. That is the two places i would've checked if I was in this battle :)
I think he was in the top right corner on the hill, I’ve hidden there before, there a nice amount of bushes and trees there so if you just sit still the enemy team need to pretty much be in proximity spotting range to see him witch no one was that I could see
He could be in the bushes at A1 right in the corner...it’s fast enough to have made it without being seen, and the Obj. 430 swept through the bottom road instead of next to the windmill so he wouldn’t have proxy spotted him, and the EBR near the end of the game has awful view range so he wouldn’t have found him anyway
Just as I log off for the night, "Uploaded 1 minute ago"
In this game is a great example of 95% of the player base. Just because you are in a med/heavy/lights doesn’t mean you have to spot or go city. To maximise his game Alukat should have gone in and spotted. He knew where all they enemy tanks were and it was a reasonable risk with high rewards
With only 680m, he couldn't go far.
The only available answer is that he fell into limbo, because of a bug somewhere. How could still have a bug on Malinovka map, after all that time... I don't know.
WG, that is how. He could have fallen off a ledge on the way up the hill in a spot nobody has before.
Maybe that was just his goal for the game. When I get bored in WOT I sit in a location and move from cover to cover and see how long I can keep one person’s tracks blown off so maybe it was something like that
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Awesome vid Jingles.
What an absolute chad zenzen playing and winning a game nobody knew he was playing. Maybe this was Aurorik's alt before he became a legend.
He was probably in K1, across the river in the bushes, he is in a fast medium and would be able to cross the river without drowning. But thats just a therory, a Tank theory... thanks for watching!
680 metres only.
@@TchaikovskyFDR thats a little over half the map, by my calculation/estimation if he spawned in the south forest, as medium tanks commonly do, he could have easily reached A10 in only 680 meters, as a matter a fact, that makes me even more sure of the fact than ever.
Is it possible to get into the K1 island tho? I've never ever seen anybody on there.
The path to the island was blocked years ago...
The Leopard realised that his team was going to hit rock bottom, so he brought a shovel and dug deeper to stay undetected
Is it possible to get to that southern land over the water? The PT A is a pretty fast tank so maybe it made it there? But that might be more than 680 meters
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Based on range (when the dude points at a tank and the map distance between him and the tank) I really don’t think he was in the island, more that he hid out on the hill
@@theextratank7792 Wherever he hid: no one got spotted.
At all.
So he hid somewhere you cannot look out from.
I half wonder if he got stuck in a building and/or went through the map.
It is possible to get to the island, but only with a FAST and TALL tank, and only if you drive just right. There are vids out on youtube. Probably less than 10% of all tanks could possibly make that journey and not drown.
No one went to lower right corner of the map. And it probably went around the edges of the map to the northwest region, and then drove around the edge of the lake in the north to reach enemy spawning location. Or, somehow he managed to cross the lake in the southwest corner.
This is the reason why I think WG should implement so that when a battle ends all unspotted enemy tanks gets visible on the minimap.
I went through my old posts on a Facebook group (WoT Noobs) to find this one I made from 2017. "was just in a battle with a fellow named uptreeninja, and he spent the entire game driving around pusing down all the trees on the map, as top tier in a T-54. Time to quit for the night." So yeah, takes all kinds. One hides in a corner and this one literally drove around pushing down all the trees on a map.
Being a sniper, that leo is probably in (-100,Z) location
I've managed to remain unspotted for the entire match on that map. I sat in G3 in a Leopard scout tank with a good crew. Everyone just drove in circles around me :) Nobody ever bothered to drive to the middle of the field to check, they just assumed they could have spotted any tank that might have been there.
As for that Leopard PTA, that has got to be a de-spawn glitch.
A0 just look at his previous game on this map, uploaded to wotreplay, He likes going North-West and camping bush the whole game, thats what he mostly did on the other replays
Speculation: the Leopard Prototype and the SP-1 were either A. private chatting with each other, through Discord, voice chat, or something, passing info about enemy positions, or B. were actually the same player on different accounts simultaneously, perhaps one on a desktop and one on a laptop next to him. Might go a way toward explaining how the Leopard knew where all the enemy tanks were and why the SP was so useless; he was actually a spy.
For some reason I think he was in one of the houses... :P
I did that in a stug once.....had a KV2 and a Hetzer both unloading derp shells into the house to try get me......epic glitch
my e25 got rammed so hard it glitch inside i house and was still able to spot from inside but not shoot at anything
14:16 In the team list is the picture of the hotchkiss Ebr intentionally blurry? Because it’s so fast?
He doesn't play WoT
He plays runners versus chasers
Obvious the Leo PTA was involved in a remake of the classic skit "How not to be seen." Masterful rendition!
I saw that replay from the enemies point of view, one hint the TS-5 was closest. almost proxy spotted him
MasterCoZero Do you have the link? Or at least an idea of where we can find it?
@@jkrull05 i was sent the world of tanks replay file somewhere in discord, sadly i have no knowledge what exact server it was in
The island? (SW corner of the map)
@@Jacko-zf2pz he meant sdo you still have the replay and could you upload/link that.
darthkarl99 that’s exactly it! @MasterCoZero do you have the replay and can you possibly link it?
The strangeness and seemingly mythical story of this honestly makes me think of real life and the seemingly non fiction stuff you hear about
Most likely, that leopard encountered a bug, and dropped off the map. There were bugs like these a couple years ago, where tanks somehow got through the "surface" and lost in the void below.
Clearly he spawned in, turned around, tried to cross the border and drove right into an imperial ambush.
Nobodies 6th sense went off? If it had they would have said. So the Leo didn't spot anybody either. How the f...
My best guess is that the player behind the leopard using a bot program, that drives the tank to a sertain location on each map that is safe and allows him to remain undetected, as the battle starts.
All the players can see him moving and then he can just pretend that he just lost connection. But in fact he he would really lost connection, the wehicle explodes when the battle ends and on the endplate he would be appear as a destroyed tank.
As for the theory of the Leo PT-A being the best player on the team: 68k games played, 43.8% Win-Rate. How bad would the others be?
Almost 1600 games played in the Skoda T 40 and LEfefefefefefe and other premium tanks mostly. I dare say, that guy was botting hard.
But if you're being top on damage in a Tiger P in a Tier IX game, the enemy team must have been one of those I regularly end up in.
Patrick Mundhenk not an unreasonable assumption. But bots tend to be spotted pretty readily. So unless the player found their hideyhole and THEN engaged the bot, it’s still a mystery.
The Leopard prototype was just a ploy and a camo!
He was actually driving a futuristic Tier 20 stealth tank of American origin!
So naturally he drove past everyone else, all cloaked :D
By setting up a 1:10000 scale 1km by 1km grid and using a compass it can be determined that to go to the island at K1, while only driving 680m, the Lep PTA would have had to spawn at H8, J8, or K8. As far as I can tell no one, not even arty, spawns outside the 0 line on Malinovka East Spawn. Mathematically K1 is not possible. The same method indicates that the bushes at A0 are a possibility if the Lep PTA spawned around the G0/H0 line and went to A0 or spawned at the E0/F0 line and drove around a bit before the Lep PTA found his or her ultimate destination at A0. Alternatively, it could be a map glitch. Good Vid Jingles, better mystery. I'll get back to the salt mines now.
I rarely watch jingles videos, but whenever I do, I like the vid just cause the intro is fire
The Leo wanted to appear in your videos as a mystery. thats why he did that
The tank got abducted by aliens that left a false signature of him in the game just because they were having a hard day and needed a laugh.
Still a better detective story than scooby doo
As far as I can see, there are two possibilities for where he went. Option 1: he hid at the bottom of a cliff, probably in the far southwestern corner of the map, somewhere where he'd only be spotted if someone randomly jumped off the cliff after him. Or option 2: the game glitched out and he either fell through the floor or got catapulted into space.
my bet is that he was doing it to see if he could or forgot to load ammo.
also has anyone bothered to find him and ask?
I imagine he fell through the ground by the rock near his team spawn. It used to happen on the old maps once in a great while.
So i checked the leo stats.. he aint great. 43% winrate... all i can say is he is one damn good hider, and yes i check NA, RU, et ASIA, servers he is located on the EU server. 513 what ever it is.. This man is a damn ninja!
Jzolt WR doesn’t automatically make someone a bad player. I have a 47% WR, but I am a pretty good player. Don’t assume someone sucks because of their winrate.
Some men just want to hide.
He was probably near the central lake in the D6 square. There's a depression there that can cover your tank from almost all areas unless someone comes all the way up to spot you.
Maybe the driver of the Leopard PT A was John Cena. You never know.
Impossible. If he was Cena you'd hear him saying "driving to the top of the map now" from across the map right as the match started.
@@lMarcusl Also his theme song would've gotten louder as someone drove by him
please send a message to that Leopard, we want to learn that ninja moves of his.
When theres something strange
In the neighbourhood
Who you gonna call?
WG DEVELOPERS
Lobstep Gaming lol got the link for the tog ii replay would like to see it?
John Smith Just search my wot name _ Lobstep_The_RNG_Maker _ on wotreplays
It's obvious that this guy brought his snorkeling kit and drove into the lake, no one suspected him of being there, afterwards he went back happily to his family not thinking about his comrads because they would have left him hanging anyway.
I say A0, and combine that with his serious low stats (almost bot like) free 300% cammo ratings (we know that they get it) it is very possible that he got not spotted there.
Live stealth tactics test? I've done something like this is WT. He was clearly trying not to be seen and didn't want to do any damage. But he also apparently didn't care about the score, experience, or the rest of his team. The only thing I can think of is that he was testing.