Wire strike by unlicensed pilot preliminary report says - Gyrocopter accident Namibia 17th Dec 2020

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  • Опубліковано 12 січ 2021
  • Thanks to channel subscriber Bobby Tait for the heads up on the preliminary report.
    The initial view from investigators was this was a training flight but it now seems that it was simply a pleasure flight by a pilot who had lost his medical [and therefore his licence] with the son of the countries chief corruption officer in the back seat.
    Link to the Calidus UK report on survivability :- assets.publishing.service.gov...
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  • @KB3M
    @KB3M 3 роки тому +7

    Not being able to quickly escape an overturned burning gyro is why I won't consider a tandem with an overhead canopy. Tandems with two side doors allow easy escape by pilot and passenger no matter how the gyro is orientated after crashing. Of course one has to be conscience in order to escape which is why I always wear a helmet even if enclosed. The difference between an open gyro and one enclosed by 3 mm of acrylic plastic is nil when it comes to protection.

    • @RoadRunnerLaser
      @RoadRunnerLaser 3 роки тому

      One of my instructors used to say, “An enclosed cockpit only gives a false sense of security. It’s just more stuff to hurt you in an accident.”

    • @gyrocopterflyingclub6148
      @gyrocopterflyingclub6148  3 роки тому +2

      I think the caveat around the canopy in this accident is that it may not have made any difference to the outcomes for these 2 BUT having to try and use what is effectively a toffee hammer to try and get yourself free whilst sitting in a fuel fire with the associated heat, smoke and fumes without full freedom of movement AND the fact that it is highly likely that the impact also dislodged the hammer so it isn't where you thought it was.... and by the time you've read this you've passed out anyway and are now part of the fire. Pretty grim and once more poorly thought out, poorly executed gyroplane engineering.

    • @electricaviationchannelvid7863
      @electricaviationchannelvid7863 Рік тому

      Lets say you need to emergency land into bush/trees that plastic might protect you against some branches...not to mention bird-strikes/small drone strikes...

  • @raymondbonoparte2748
    @raymondbonoparte2748 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the update. Knowledge, and case studies such as this, are the key to safe flying..

  • @jeroenjansen2709
    @jeroenjansen2709 3 роки тому +4

    Wire strikes are one of the most common causes of helicopter accidents so also autogiros should be affected by this.

  • @z_actual
    @z_actual 3 роки тому +2

    Its a problem for all swinging canopies. I remember when the safety of gull wing doors on cars was challenged in respect of egress escape if the vehicle was rolled over.
    The issue of access from out side of aircraft to assist incapacitated occupants was addressed by the military to have clear instructions of how to release a canopy or hatch with the use of a yellow 'Rescue' triangle and latches accessible from outside. That was 70 years ago. Where common sense is absent it comes down to specification or legislation.

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 3 роки тому +3

    Helicopter doors have an emergency jettison feature which pulls out the hinge pins when the jettison handle is operated.
    Owners of this type would be wise to consider making this a feature on their own aircraft.
    In addition, the installation of an Explo-Safe fuel tank insert would be worthy of consideration. Explo-Safe have an excellent history.
    The wearing of Nomex Flight Suits, Gloves and Balaclavas should also be considered.
    Attempting to hammer one's way out through a jammed canopy whilst the aircraft is engulfed in flames is horrific, being consumed by the inferno before escaping is even worse.
    There is no excuse for releasing an aircraft for sale which hinders survival in the event of an accident.
    As a potential buyer I would be extremely interested in the aspects of the aircraft designed for crew safety... Or the lack therof!

    • @RoadRunnerLaser
      @RoadRunnerLaser 3 роки тому

      Regarding not releasing for sale an aircraft which hinders survival (or egress) in the event of an accident - one could make the same argument for cars, yet, every day, people have to be cut from their vehicles after an accident.

    • @felixcat9318
      @felixcat9318 3 роки тому +1

      @@RoadRunnerLaser When vehicle doors and structures become deformed due to high impact forces, it clearly obstructs the free opening of those doors, necessitating the use of Emergency Services hydraulic equipment to force entry into the passenger compartment.
      However, this is a world of difference from a gyroplane canopy which will not open if the aircraft happens to be laying on its side, otherwise undamaged!
      In that instance the simple act of removing the safety device which secures the canopy jettison lever and activating that lever which extracts the canopy hinge pins, allowing the entire canopy to be jettisoned clear and allowing the Crew to egress quickly is preferable to having to literally hammer smash an exit hole in the canopy itself to crawl out of!
      I am surprised to have to explain something which I believe to be so self evident!

    • @RoadRunnerLaser
      @RoadRunnerLaser 3 роки тому

      @@felixcat9318 - Cars are built to deform in crashes as a means of absorbing energy to protect the occupants and therein lies the reason for the necessity of hydraulic cutting equipment. Aircraft are not, I am surprised that I need to explain something so fundamental.
      However, having said that, I do take your point and it was not lost on me at the beginning, either. Some kind of emergency release to facilitate egress from an otherwise unbent aircraft does seem to be a prudent measure... but.... I was pointing out that you were suggesting that selling an aircraft from which it is hard to escape is some unforgivable oversight or even negligence, whereas I was pointing out that you don’t seem to regard motor-vehicles with the same disdain and after all, they are DESIGNED to deform.

    • @gyrocopterflyingclub6148
      @gyrocopterflyingclub6148  3 роки тому

      Yes I think a jettison able canopy and work with the fuel tanks would be a very good idea and the AAIB think so too if were to speak to them.

  • @richardjenkins4182
    @richardjenkins4182 3 роки тому +5

    Sad. Started out as a pleasure flight, ended up as a horrifying ordeal.

  • @jeroenjansen2709
    @jeroenjansen2709 Рік тому

    Even a simple tippover during the landing can have similar catastrophic consequences

  • @Kebekwoodcraft7375
    @Kebekwoodcraft7375 3 роки тому +1

    I don’t know nothing about all those accidents but I wonder who is the best candidate to have this accident.
    First need to have quite a bit of money to spend more then $150,000.00 dollars for a toy .
    So the age also is a fact, since they been successful in business or career to be able to buy this toy
    they have a certain attitude of been able to do anything they want end how they want .

  • @ColinMcNulty
    @ColinMcNulty 3 роки тому

    Anyone know if the hammer escape test video mentioned in the Survivability text @1:56 is available anywhere to see?

    • @gyrocopterflyingclub6148
      @gyrocopterflyingclub6148  3 роки тому

      Hi - no i've never seen it but the people that will be able to help [if they choose to - and it may be quite big IF] will be contactable here: -ga@caa.co.uk
      That is the general aviation unit of the UK CAA who will have access to the people who will have required that film to have been made.

    • @KB3M
      @KB3M 3 роки тому

      Here's an EAA chapter testing tools to break thru a RV-7 canopy.

  • @dwightbernheimer331
    @dwightbernheimer331 3 роки тому +1

    I know you call it the gyro copter Flying Club... but you don't see much flying but you see a whole lot of crashing LOL thanks for posting. I'm almost 80 years old I've been in and out of Aviation most of my life. What I would tell people, if you can't afford a helicopter don't buy anything. Most people that have gyrocopters have them because they can't afford a helicopter. Two entirely different machines. There is far too many gyrocopter accidents happening. Unfortunately we know the majority of the cause.

    • @gyrocopterflyingclub6148
      @gyrocopterflyingclub6148  3 роки тому

      Ha yes the channel has shifted from me doing a lot of flying [and if you dig around the videos on the channel you'll see a few flying films even one of an RAF Typhoon] but once done they are done. Now its more news flow and the inevitable flight safety message because of the crashes that would never happen to me, but of course they do.

  • @gusm5128
    @gusm5128 3 роки тому

    Those things are all kinds of wrong

    • @jimwolfe2862
      @jimwolfe2862 3 роки тому +1

      Why because it's pilot flew it into wires.

  • @robertmiles4751
    @robertmiles4751 3 роки тому +1

    TV o

  • @peterclark6290
    @peterclark6290 3 роки тому

    If you ride a skateboard into power lines something unwanted is going to happen. This was pure pilot error/incompetence/recklessness go to whoa. The marque is entirely irrelevant, as are the the body type and the colour scheme. Survivability once you're airborne is in the hands of the pilot; the ground remains constant, an implacable, hard, irregular obstacle. How Calidus can be even brought into the question is beyond me.

    • @gyrocopterflyingclub6148
      @gyrocopterflyingclub6148  3 роки тому +1

      No of course I agree with the general point but there is a side issue about the ability to exit the Calidus just in the same way the AAIB reported on CIYU.

    • @peterclark6290
      @peterclark6290 3 роки тому +1

      @@gyrocopterflyingclub6148 I can simplify that for you - Do Not Crash Aircraft, all types, it never ends well. Which goes back to what I've been arguing since day one. Gyros need to be marketed to the female of the species. Who are notable for their dislike of risk. Eradicating the word 'sport' from the dialogue will do a lot to achieve that. Gyros are a cheaper variety of aerial viewing platform / distance eater, that's all. They have no other pretensions.

    • @electricaviationchannelvid7863
      @electricaviationchannelvid7863 Рік тому

      You are so wrong, I have done military aviation safety course (although I was only a fixed wing jet guy all my life) where huge emphasis was on egress training including upside down-underwater, post-crash, fire/heat protective clothing...
      Furthermore by the new modern helicopter design principles all windows should be large enough and with a quick release/break feature...
      There should be design changes on the Calidus...I think...or just do not buy it...

    • @peterclark6290
      @peterclark6290 Рік тому

      @@electricaviationchannelvid7863 The 'totally safe for every possible scenario' airframe cannot be built (to fly). There is an old maxim that should be considered: 'the best sailor is the guy who can't swim'. Which goes back to my original point. Operate the equipment within its design window and if circumstances take the aircraft outside that safe zone accept your fate as a pioneer. For the autogyro that is 'over 55' and at altitude. Be extraordinarily careful outside the safe operating parameters.