Improvements & Methods - Concrete Bag | Culvert Retaining Wall | Steve Addis
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I know it works, we used two concrete bags just like these to weigh down the back our basketball hoop, years later they are hard as rock. It was not intentional. I wonder if these could be used for a house foundation or even a house wall or even the base of a floor that can have the low points filled in later.
@Ventura IT - Thanks for the comment. I know you are thinking out of the box, yet I would not use for structural. Cobble stone walk, if the price is right.
@@SteveAddis I'm guessing that it would work for structural if done right... but concrete blocks are so cheap.
@Ventura IT - I knew a friend that built his house out of solid poured concrete. Reminded me of the concrete monolithic domes. FEMA shelter and resistant to wind forces and earthquakes. - www.monolithic.org/
My back hurts just watching this video. However, I really like the look
You have to be careful watching these videos. :) -Thank you for your comment!
Exactly…this is a young man’s project fer sure 😊
@65gtotrips - I wish I were as young as my profile, yet I sometimes can do maybe 60-70 percent what I used to - and that is enough thankfully. :)
@@SteveAddis your voice is young too
You’ve inspired me to do the same to some small culvert crossings I have in WV. Thanks 🙏
Awesome. I sure would like to see the results. WV has lots of hills with watershed and water events I would expect. You are welcome.
That looks really nice! Well done. Thank you for sharing your tips.
@Luvnot Videos - Thanks, and your are welcome.
LOVE THIS!! Incredible job 👏👍👍💯 so much easier, cheaper then spending $20,000 on a retaining wall. People are like oh that's lazy! I'm like no it's genius and I don't think laziness is the problem lol maybe the problem is people don't have 20 gs on stand by to dish out on a wall
I am with you on that. My Cousin does concrete and he estimated some high numbers when I showed him what I did. Thanks for your comment! :)
The important thing on a wall is the drainage in the back, it's the hydrostatic pressure and soil pressure behind the wall that makes them fail and these pressures, if not dealt with properly, will knock down any wall.
Yeah, I had a general contractor (asked him about a retaining wall & siding options) recommend against doing a retaining wall because they're so ridiculously expensive.
He said that our best option was to weight DIY options from youtube videos. =p
The city has these walls stack 12 feet high in drainage channels where I live. Seem to have been there over 50 years..
How much or how many bags can i order to make one wall? do you have a way to account how many you need per war?
thank you so much for sharing. I purchased a house with slopes and hills. This concrete retaining wall will help with making the land look nice.
You are welcome. Same hills here. I am sure you will do a great job on your place. Enjoy your work best of all, the improvements! Take care. :)
This was an awesome video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it. You are welcome.
Great videos and instruction, I'm going to try this on my driveway culverts.
I am glad it might help you. Thank you - have a great weekend!
Looks GREAT!
Thanks Lou.
Thanks for the improvement tips.
You are welcome my friend. Many people had questions and I learned a few things along the way. Take care! :)
Thank u. I believe this is a good solution for a 3 tier terraced retaining wall garden
You are welcome. Sounds like you have a good plan.
Great tips. Thanks!
Thank you. You are welcome.
Great update, Ty!
You are welcome John. Have a great week!
Great video! Thanks!
Thank you, and you are welcome. Have a good weekend.
it looks really cool !
Turned out better than expected... Take care.
Very cool.
looks fantastic
Thanks - It ended up pretty good.
This is great and simple and looks awesome thanks for the info great video 👍👍👍👍
Thank you for the kind words friend. Hope it was helpful. :)
Great idea!!
Thanks for your comment.
Absolutely gorgeous job on your work, without a Doubt, your way is definitely better and alot cheaper, I am going to do just that, thank you
Thank you Patrick. Improvements Video ua-cam.com/video/tUlc1Qb5A74/v-deo.html
Looks great
@Texas Boy - Thanks
That’s Awsome would look great paired sand stone colour
Thanks. Great idea - Two or three colors would be awesome.
Great job.Super video.
Thank you. I am glad you liked it.
Wow!
Dam wish I'd seen this a year ago! I have the same thing but had a wall poured and cost me lots the wall is cracked and missed shaped like yours way better!
Thanks for comment. Sorry to hear. - I guess a commercial level wall pour (not thin wall) works. You have no idea how many contractors laughed at my builds with all their thoughts without ever having done this. Been done for many years / decades ago and still holding. It is no laughing matter when when you pay the contractor 20 times my cost. :)
Great look. How do you drive the vertical rebar to tie them together? Just a bunch of short rebar sticks and hammer them in on each level? I worry that the upper bag I “drop” over the rebar will split when I do it, but maybe they’re stronger paper than I think.
Sledge hammer. I try do do several courses or more. Yes, had to punch through bags. Yes I had some short rebar to prevent removal at the top of the wall. You can cut small starter holes first in the bag. Paper is two layers. I would drop it rapidly on the rebar while holding it. Thanks for your comment.
Fiber reinforced concrete bgs would be even stronger. Thanks for a great informational video!
For sure it would. You are welcome.
I believe this wall is strong. Also looks good. Can be plastered aswell afterwards if smooth looks required. Plaster will stick well.
Thanks for your comment.
sweet!
Thanks
Great job on these videos. Three questions. First, are the horizontal rebar pieces placed between every row? Are they necessary? I guess they add lateral strength? Second - do you water and solidify a few rows at a time, or build the whole wall and then water the whole thing? I imagine that it might be hard to get them all wetted properly if you had full 4' high wall of bags. Last thing - I have heard and seen on some other sites that some of the quicrete bags now have a liner which would prevent water from getting into the bag. Is this true? Do you have to use a specific style of bag? Thanks for the valuable information.
Thank you. The horizontal rebar are not necessary, yet I placed them in two of the highest rows at the corner only to key in and lock the wall more. This wall was solid clay and stable soils so it will likely never move. The curve area is helping stabilize the whole wall as a unit. The culvert was on bedrock. Yes, I did a few rows or courses at a time. They solidify even with outdoor humidity as they draw in moisture let alone a good rain or flooded water. I used paper bags and paper bags with a brown wax lining that resists water. Plastic is not my preferred, yet would have one advantage of not stretching which is similar to "fiber reinforced" bags called Rip Rap concrete bags by Quikrete made specifically for this. Plastic would require holes punched in using a small piece of plywood with screws or nails and a 2x4 on the side for a handle. Then of course punch the bags through with rebar from the top multiple times. Rip Rap bags are best, or paper.
What up man? This stuff is kinda cool lookin
Hey buddy! I know what you are up to, Pro-Concrete-Jobs...I need to do a couple of more small walls. If life permitted, I would come work with you for fun and learn the cool CC stuff. Take care - God's blessings in the work of your hands!
Genius.I hope u got a big bulk discount on all those bags. That's an insane count.
Thanks for your comment. At the time $1.83 a bag. Now it has gone up considerable.
Wow, that's really impressive! Thanks for sharing. I'm actually in a similar boat-I've got these huge retaining walls to build on my property for the driveway embankments. I'm on a tight budget and trying to find ways to save as much money as I can. Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
You are welcome. I used rip rap to hold a steep drive side. Dumped bags of concrete in between especially near the top edge which locked in. Geo fabric is a plus. I used the mixed stone with lime dust packs hard with water for the drive. Buy bags bulk. Thanks for your comment! You will get it done - with some work.
@@SteveAddis thank you 🙏 it’s greatly appreciated!
Im not convinced but i do like it.
I understand. It might not be the best solution, yet it worked for me at the time. Thanks for your comment.
Would love to make a bunker out of these.
They were done in WWII Britain. Be sure to include a grenade sump to be authentic!
Brilliant wondering if I can make a walkway using this method
You might be able to do that. Best lightly dust them with sandy mortar or concrete dry after you apply water so they don't end up slippery. - Thank you for your comment.
So Steve, I'm looking to divide my small pond in half (currently about 2' deep) the cheapest way, because I cannot get large equipment down to it, do you think a "bag" wall would hold water back if I just carried them into the pond and put them in place?
I placed bags under water in front of my culvert and they setup very solid. I would cleanup and prep where you place them. Mix the bags well and pack them. Place them carefully one course at a time and do not disturb them for a day or two. Then check them and continue. I would not want to use rebar unless it is fiberglass. I never tried stacking more than one course under water and would be afraid the bags would stretch too much and break apart. Let me know your results. Thanks
Thank you. I saw this video my suggestion and will implement it.
How long did it take to completely cure?
You are welcome. I let it go for two days and keep it wet if possible. I am told it cures more over the years. The concrete bags in the stream with constant contact to water setup more solid - when I first checked for strength.
I just moved into a property and was told today that in a heavy storm rain rushes right towards my house. It continues on off the property but, it's a huge concern. Thinking a four foot height should be more than enough. My first question is. Would this work as a wall without backfill behind it.
Explains why the previous owner had blocks on that side of the house, about 6 foot from the house, down the whole length of the home. And siding and flooring issues on that side.
Hi @TheTamrock2007. This sounds like a steep slope next to your home or back of home. I can only give you ideas to consider. The four foot wall might be too high to stand on it's own indefinitely. 2.5 feet would be good unless you put it deep. Line it with heavy mill plastic to keep the water behind it. Yet, curve the wall so it directs water and does not pool. Combine it with a french drain on the water side. - I did multiple french drains to handle my water situation. Look at your topology and use the area to your advantage using high and low areas. A water bar system might direct water away from the home using multiple zones, like divide it in half, directing to each side. You could combine this with french drain in front of the bar, wet side, line it with plastic in the bottom facing your home. Even the water bar might be reinforced with the concrete bags. Also, can you grade and slope the ground away from your foundation? Do not forget geofabric to prevent erosion. Here is a the french drain I posted. Yet you need more barrier from what it sounds like. Think it through, observe wet season, evaluate, plan, and you will find the solution. ua-cam.com/video/XWEcCW-Fm5Q/v-deo.html
@@SteveAddis thank you so very much with that quick response, and right before Christmas. Merry Christmas 🎁
When you said line it with heavy mil plastic, underneath?, between each course?
@@TheTamrock2007 Drape it under top course, facing over wall, down below ground level on water side, or upstream side. Much success an Merry Christmas to you all as well!
the type s does have the most organic tint and garden variety quickcrete is that type but if you shop or order direct you can, or at least could when I was doing stuff like this, get it in both types I and n as well.
Thank you for the information.
Ive been thinging of building a gabion wall refaining wall but doing it around a cement bag wall. The look of the bags will be irrelevant as they will ve covered on the front and top with sones. Seems like it may be a way to get the look i want while being potentially stronger and MAYBE saving time and money (i expect the concrete to be xonsiderably cheaper than the stone i would use to cover it). Any opinions?
Best to get pricing on both bags and riprap stone by the ton. My last riprap purchase was more costly than than smaller stone mixed with lime. Now concrete bags have gone up in price as well. For sure, put ties in the bags to allow for the gabion connections. If I wanted gabion, I would put the cloth behind it and just go that route, unless there was a special need in a section of wall for using the bags stacked. Thanks for you comment!
Interesting project. How many times did u need to soak the bags and have you broken open any of the finished bags to see how deep the water got inside each "block?" Do you think it would make any difference if you soaked each layer of bags prior to setting the next layer of bags on the one below it? I've always loved the look of a rock wall but the cost of the rock and labor involved is prohibitive where I'm at.
It was soaked a couple of times. When it set, it was soaked all night. I did not check this wall because the water should have reached the center as it absorbs in the concrete. By doing a few layers at a time as you mentioned, it would reduce the load and stretching of the bags, reducing cracks forming on the face. I like the rock look too. Please see this video and see if it helps. Thanks! ua-cam.com/video/tUlc1Qb5A74/v-deo.html
@@SteveAddis Thx for the quick reply, a lot of original posters don't reply at all. Nice work, subscribed. If you were to do this again is there anything you would do different?
Hi @Jon B. Hey, you are welcome. On this particular wall, I would not have rushed the job and stacked so many at a time. This resulted in some cracks forming in the face as it set up. Also, mixing the bags more. I cut the hill back an extra two feet yet was tired of digging the extremely hard clay by hand with a pick and shovel and did not cut the footer in as much as I might have. I would have ended up going through the blue clay completely and then that would not have left as much base, yet would lock that wall in. If powered tools were used, it would have been nice to cut the hill back more for cars and also made the french drain in front of the wall deeper by a couple of feet The water on the hill seeps to the clay, then creates seep springs, drains under the garage pea gravel, thus the french drain to take that water away from the garage. Thanks for the subscribe. Take care.
I will most likely use this method for when I begin my retaining wall project. How many bags did you place at the very base?
I don't know the number. On the culvert two rows offset. Tie backs would be a plus.
Im surprised the bags are so solid, like that they absorbed the water all the way through the thickness of the bag. Do you think deep within the wall there are sections that haven't gotten enough water and are just powder still?
Thanks for your question. They are solid as they were flooded with water overnight and of course tested each section.
Did you have any sort of anchorage at the bottom of the wall or do the bags sit on the fabric?
Depends on which wall. Fabric, yes - separation for the back side and stone. Retaining wall sets on clay nearly as hard as rock, then rebar driven into it. Yet, good footer and tie backs are usually needed.
Steve, could you describe in detail how to wet the bags?
Sure. You keep the paper on for a couple of months or more. Do a section and place rebar in to allow for linking the next section. Lightly water the bags, cover with plastic so that it does not get rained on and over satuated. Let it sit for a night and repeat. Lightly water where rebar breaks the bags. Water will soak in. Punch extra rebar holes and pull them out and water there some. When it sets up a bit, then you can give it some more heavier sprinkle. If you sprinkle water too long in the beginning, the bags stretch on the face and sometimes the concrete will separate a bit without side support support. This is why I taped the bags. Now, when it is setup, I simply let the water sprinkle all night long or wait for good rains to do the rest of the job. Test your methods on a small area.
I have some culverts that need retaining walls. I looked into the commercial rip rap bags but they are not available anywhere near me. Do you recommend any one brand of retail bags over another? The area I am doing is smaller than yours, so I am probably looking at either 60lb bags or filling grocery bags. Any helps in choosing mix or brand is appreciated. Thanks for the videos!
Hi Rick. Quikrete has worked well using standard ready mix. I had one bag from a pallet that I rushed and did not mix it in the bag. The side did not setup. Not bad out of 10 pallets. You should be able to use any brand "ready mix". "Test" the concrete brand you buy first, mix it well, then water it. It is more work for me moving it in smaller bags. Maybe you can stack 60lb bags with the smooth "ends" facing out and get your wall thickness with the length of the bag and save time keeping the material in the original bag. Be sure to roll and mix the contents. Your bagging method will allow you to mix multiple bags together, which should work well. You are welcome and glad the video might be helpful!
@@SteveAddis Thanks!
Would these work for a basement as an exterior wall if I reinforce it by making an inner wall of cinder block?
These examples are free standing walls and not structural foundations. Though I am not an expert, I would prefer formed basements with rebar well sealed. A facade wall for appearance? It is great that you are thinking and looking outside the box which leads to creative ideas. Take care.
Have you built any free standing (non retaining) walls using these bags? I would absolutely love to have something like this up to replace my privacy fencing that is literally falling down. Don’t need a retaining wall though.
I have thought about it some for just above a drive retaining wall. I planned to make it short though, connected to the wall. Then go up a few more feet with PT wood using steel post anchors. You might research how to make the foundation and structure so that it does not fall over because of the weight. It might need to be built similar to the old stone walls of past. I bet that would be a nice looking fence!
@@SteveAddis I’m in no physical shape to do any sort of fence. But I would so love it, at least in the back. And think it would be pretty secure too.
Maybe you could plan the job. Find some reasonable young friends that would not charge too much, up for the challenge. Direct the whole project and get the results you want. Then do the mortar, color and so forth. I am trying to get this done while I can, so I never have to do any of it over again. I have had a privacy fence rot over time and require maintenance. These things should last long past my shelf life.
If you do this for a retention wall do you need dead heads or geo tile in backfill?
Yes, you should. This soil was so hard behind the wall a pickax would not hardly break it except for the surface top soil. I was not about to disturb that solid area for a tieback. Thanks for the comment.
I wonder if you could do slabs doing something similar?
Cobble stone look. In creeks they setup like rock. If you mean slab, I would rather poor with a good slump test.
Why doesn't the bottom of the bag that makes contact with the bag under it create a natural separation point? Is the bag designed to disintegrate allowing the bags to bond? Are these bags of concrete specifically designed for this purpose?
You are correct and there is a separation at the paper. Paper does break down, yet not much of a bond except the natural self locking. No on the bag design for this purpose. Those bags are called Rip Rap Bags by Quikreet. Thanks for your comment.
So its start small area first bottom row - rebar in rebar across - wet bottom row - then add next row. Repeat how many rows up and how many across?
Do more than one row and what you feel you can do at the time. Wet the sections yet have the vertical rebar protruding out so that you can continue with connected bags.
About how many bags do you figure it took? Were they 60#s? Really nice looking project! Thanks for sharing 🤠
512 50 lb bags for the wall and 650 for the culvert entrance. Thanks and you are welcome. :)
Can you burn the bags with a torch when finished
That is great idea and would save time. We sometimes have no burn due to forest fires. I may try it when I am able. Thank you for the great comment! :)
@@SteveAddis awesome I look forward to more videos!
Cost? 2-2.5k. It’s brilliant. Not sure if this was your idea or already something done but I’m going to do something very similar now. Thx
Old idea, my version. Wish you success!
You ever thought about using vinyl crack repair. No rocks to deal with when it comes to the crack and small breaks?
I never thought of that. Thanks for the input!
Honestly bro, I do concrete and cement work at the job and that stuff works well for those kinds of small problem. Rock on brother ..
Is it cheaper in amount of concrete than laying & forms; do you use more & cost more¿
I don't know. The price of wood then, mixing or buying concrete. The wall was less than 1k and the headwall was about 1.2k at the time.
Instead of taping the top row could you place bags of sand or gravel there instead to hold the top level and in shape?
Yes, that sounds like idea that would work. Thanks for your comment!
@SteveAddis once the wall is set you could then just tip the gravel into the culvert as a liner or behind the wall as backfill, if it's going to end up in there anyways might as well put it to work on the way lol
I want to see a shelter built like this.
Yes, that would be cool.
If you’re soaking the bags overnight, when does it start to harden?
When it is saturated, within 24 hours you see some changed and it continues to harden over time. Thanks for your comment.
HOW'D YOU GET WATER INTO THE CENTER OF THE BAG. TO MAKE SURE
IT GOT WET TO HARDEN❗❗❗
I tested it with and water absorbs or wicks in to the bags easily, especially when the rebar punches through. Yes, I made sure. Thanks for your comment.
Actually I always thought it would be a good way to build a wall O F any type . House.
Garage. Retaining wall. 🤷🏻♂️
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I wonder if burlap bags wouldn’t work better. Aren't these bags lined with plastic?
@French Fries - Burlap would hold together better than paper when wetting. These two layer paper with inner brown layer more durable. Plastic would need holes punched, yet never tried plastic. Thanks for your comment.
You do understand that bagged concrete is the most expensive concrete you can buy right? I have seen people that make rounded pellets of concrete and stack them like you've done with bags, but the pellets are made with mixed concrete.
Yes, at about $3 a bag. The pellets would be great. Thanks for your input.
Longevity of this method? Seem like it might lead to un-uniform concrete, low strength, and cracking.
I'm not a concrete expert, so I wonder what an experienced expert would say.
@J - It has been done years ago. Not as strong as a pour, yet better than the big box store blocks. Non structural use here yet testing would be great. I will post in the future for sure. - Thanks for commenting.
@j - Other commenters -
Seen this done on a country road some 40 years ago, its holding up very well too! Good Job!
Excellent vid! My neighbor did the same build and it is holding up fine after a few years. He saved a lot of money. Thank you for taking the time to post this...
My mom built a wall like this as a retaining wall for her pond. It's been there for years and still holding up well.
Is the country a specific kind for this method? What is the name?
Not for certain what you are referring to. Unless it is a comment about county maintenance using the method sometimes.
@@SteveAddis sorry meant to say is there specific kind of concrete to use?
Because there are so many different ones at Home Depot.
Thanks
I used Quikreet "Ready Mix" 4000PSI. Ready to use. Cement+sand+aggregate. I used paper bags or "Fiber Reinforced" bags called "Rip Rap" bags.
gardening propane torch would burn off that paper quickly..
@John V - Your idea is great... That would have saved a lot of time. Next time. :)
This must cost a lot
Mine I mix gravel and sand then put back in the cement sack then piled up 😁😁😁😁
Hi. It the time it was not too much, the wall less than 1k. Do you mix the concrete with your mix of gravel and sand? That would extend the mix and still be better than the big box landscape blocks. Thanks for the information! :)
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Would not be easier and cheaper to just make a plywood frame and fill it with concrete rather that stacking cement bags, or even lay a brick wall?
It might be.
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This seems a lot more expensive the regular metal bpof
I don't know. How does that work? Thanks!
Steve sorry Iwas trying to say regular cinder block
Quanto dollares?
950 to 1200 dollars. Price went up currently.
Is this cheaper or something?????
Yes and DIY.
You spent more on concrete by buying the bags and doing it that way then if you wanted to couple of forms and have concrete truck come out and then all you would have to do as move out the top
Forms and pour to save $, maybe, - this cost $950 to $1200 at time of this build.
I once saw a video from a guy who was so proud that he had found enough construction scraps of vinyl tile of various colors and tones that he was able to retile a couple of duplexes he was renting out. It looked horrible. Probably broadcast the message to the tenants that he was cheap AF, too.
Sounds like recycling yet making a nice place for the renter lets them know you appreciate them as well as pride in your rental property. :)
What's the point of your post about vinyl flooring here when this video is about culvert retaining wall?
Those bags aren’t $3 anymore bro.
@AmeiricanPewDiePie - You sure are right. I updated the description. Thank you for your comment. - Just checked at Lowe's 50 lb bags. Discount for bulk. (Now $3.04 QTY 70 bags at Lowe's.) They also give military discount in addition to bulk if it applies.
That's how the Incas and myans did it!
Now those walls are a mystery.
It's all going to fall apart so quickly and become a real Big mess... we can already see the thousands of cracks everywhere, 2 or 3 winters and it's over... 9:38 the sponge effect shows that the cement doesn't is not solid and will become a very frillable cement... use dry stone or gabions...
Thanks for the comment. Yes, I noticed those too, when it was not setup...yet now on 3rd winter and it still looks fine. My followup video two years ago explains. Of course it is not a pour, yet very solid. ua-cam.com/video/b1dk4jhQfws/v-deo.html
At this point just use the normal technique.
Yes, thanks your comment.
Please just use motor bags instead of mix concrete bag.Its a headache listening to this who know nothing
I guess I never thought of using mortar bags. Have you used those for projects?
build a form pour concrete , stop with this nonsense
I would, yet that is no fun.:)
id like to see what this looks like a year from now ....bet it is cracked and falling apart ....
@dougtwigg3285 - Sure. How about three years from build. ua-cam.com/video/fDkj5gX0MAk/v-deo.html