Bad News, Democrats: America Is About to Get Even Redder | NYT Opinion
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- Опубліковано 14 січ 2025
- Every year, millions of Americans bounce around the country like electrons, moving from one state to another. But there are patterns in this chaos, and one of the clearest in recent decades is that Americans are moving from blue states to red states. As the Opinion video above explains, that has some big political implications for the Democrats.
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Yeah my uncle moved out of California when they proposed the reparations tax.
You know, reparations for slavery... In a state that never had slaves… To people who were never slaves… Paid for by people who weren’t ever slave owners.
So what about Jim Crow or laws still in place since those times and systemic racism ? Someone didn’t learn history.
A propagandistic way of putting it, as the money will come from the general revenue provided by all races alike, but they did indeed put $12 million towards a yet to be specified form of reparations this summer. See the AP's "California budgets up to $12 million for reparations bills, a milestone in atoning for racist legacy" -- all the way to the "Associated Press writer Trân Nguyễn contributed to this report." 1975-onward Viet-Americans should get reparations for having to pay reparations even after getting screwed over by isolationists (generally Democrats back then when Trump was a Democrat like most of his life).
Yeah, love how dems don't notice how stupid these ideas are....
Democrat logic. Sigh......
Peak democrat moment
It's not just electoral votes it's also seats in the House.
And Federal funding...
@@rdmez1 Federal funding is already skewed massively towards red states, like how Kentucky spends ~$2.50 for each $1 they raise from federal taxes (2022: $40B raised, $106B received). California receives ~$0.90 per dollar raised, for comparison - funding the states that keep voting against their own interests.
@@desmond-hawkins California receives more money from the Federal Government from all of the "natural disasters", which are commonly referred to wild fires caused by the lack of forest management (controlled burns).
@@rdmez1 LOL, way to be completely out of touch. Wildfires cost *each* Californian about $750 a year, depending on the fire season. Meanwhile the federal aid for people displaced by the giant 2018 fire season was $40M *total,* the max in 2021 was $103M or $2.60 per resident. What a joke.
@@desmond-hawkins Not completely. Texas is a donor state, as is California, and has been for a long time.
Who would have imagined that lying to and gaslighting people isn’t as good a policy as actual good policy
Who said' I have concepts of a plan'?
@@ericmckinney4607 What was Kackles plan? Oh, right. Nothing. And that is why you Iost bigIy.
@@ericmckinney4607Not Biden, he doesn’t have concepts of anything.
@@ericmckinney4607who said to be “unburdened by what has been?” Shockingly, a strange choice of words wasn’t what the election came down to.
that’s Trump
Voting democratic, living in a blue state, then moving to a red state because you are unhappy with politics and still voting democratic is the dumbest thing ever
Correct but don’t worry, most of the people moving from NY, CA, IL are conservatives that will make TX, TN, FL more red. 🇺🇸
That doesn't happen
Absolutely is and is also the Definition of insanity
Yes it does.
Thankfully the majority of them don’t as evident in TX and FL post-Covid
I like how they don’t take an accountability and don’t blame themselves. Politics is the main reason why people are leaving.
Lol. Ridiculous nonsense.
Yeah, Slurricane Donald would never lie to you...
@@stevenhenry5267In denial
@@stevenhenry5267 keep believing that
Companies move and then employees follow. Most people can't up and move for no reason - they would struggle to find work. They go where jobs in their industry are.
EDIT: and red states specifically solicit corporations to move there at the expense of their own populace. 'Transplants' are a self-imposed problem.
Bro, imagine being so bad at management that your population get to migrate in a massive scale...
I have many relatives in the northeast and love the nature and history of the region. It is unfortunate that regulations and taxes make it tough to live there. I wanted to live in western New York until looking deeper into it. Lack of job opportunities is also a factor there (likely due to regulations and taxes).
@@calvincoolidge1207 As well, economic forces like the transition of the Midwest into the decline of becoming the Rust Belt, with the goods that used to be made there and transported on the Erie Canal into NY to NYC now being imported on cargo container ships from China and other places.
@@richardkluesek4301 That is a factor. However, some US states are attracting jobs. New York should be thriving considering it has the finance hub of the US, is a coastal state, and is the center of the largest mega metro area in the USA. Even NYC itself is declining. You can see that when you fly into JFK airport and take the subway and then take a bus out of the city. The infrastructure is awful when compared to Seoul or Hong Kong. A lot of factors that led to this. Why is New York failing while east Texas with fewer advantages is thriving?
@@calvincoolidge1207 Failed policies based on flawed philosophies. You refer to transportation issues. Example : Congestion pricing is a toll on working class commuters and those who earn a living deploying motor vehicles like taxi drivers and truckers. They pay, while elites, some don't even own cars anymore and just hire uber/lyft. A $10 or $20 dollar fee on a middle class person with an income of $100,000/year hits them harder than on a millionaire endowed establishmentarian. Oh, and that 100K NYC income job would pay $75k in another State.
@@richardkluesek4301 That is what I mean about paying more and getting less. Despite the tolls, driving in NYC is worse than driving in most cities. When I visit NYC, I feel like I am in a declining second-world city (with crime that is reaching third-world levels). Congestion pricing and tolls are harsh and then you pay high parking fees. NYC is now just a place for the wealthy and the poor who get a lot of govt. 'freebies.' You make a good point about these fees hitting the lower (or middle) classes the hardest.
There ARE no red and blue states. There are blue urban regions and red rural regions.
vermont
@@NisforNick67 wyoming
Nah. Not “There ARE no red and blue states.” /
@@deepmind299 Cows vote?
Not true. Rural New England is blue, and urban Florida is red
Born and raised in California. My girl friend and I are about to have our second child and we're looking to move to a red state. Crime, taxes, cost of living, and terrible schools -- Democrat voters have ruined this state.
There is way more crime in red states than you are lead to believe. Make sure you have your baby before you move because if your GF needs medical help, during pregnancy, she won't get it. But honestly, your comment makes you sound ignorant enough to live in a red state.
Well, c’mon in, brother, the water is fine 🤗
I’m sorry to say this but the quality of schools aren’t much better in red states… they’re actually worse in most cases. But I do agree with everything else.
Lol 2nd child and she’s still your GF, what are you doing brother? Must not like her enough to put a ring on it
@@alexaagarciaa20 Cope. If you think teaching kids about gender studies and diversity classes is preparing them to be adults you're a clown.
"It has nothing to do with the border or inflation"
"People who just want more affordable quality of life"
You contradicted yourself here.
NYT is owned by dems…. They’re still figuring it out
That's Democrats and their supporters. And I'm not even American or white.
They keep supporting crony capitalism. At least republicans are open about it
You can't have a good quality of life when you have an open border and inflation. Right now women are being burned to death writing public subways in New York by illegal migrants that were deported under Trump and reentered the country under Joe Biden. It's all connected
This text was probably mostly written by AI, just like the background images were put in by AI. Then the text was read by a human reader.
I wrote mostly, because he or whoever did really work through those charts.
The truth is it's all the above.
You mean living in a state were crime is excused businesses are over regulated and overtaxed and the cost of living along with high personal income tax isn't desireable?! Whaaaat???
😱😱😱
Shhh... You're not supposed to make sense. They don't like that
Nooooooooo! But high taxes workkkkk! Everyone is so much happier with a better standard of living!!!!!!!
Wait but trump is stupid!!! Most of the country is just stupid people! Lmfao
Isn't it the state of Texas that governors pardon a man convicted of homicide by a jury of his peers?
0:03 The Red vs Blue birthrate is the thing to keep an Eye on ...
Not all of the children will vote like their parents but MOST of them will
😂 blue voters don't even know what a woman is..and if they do get pregnant they have a abortion.
Blue voters don't even know what a woman is.😂 and if one gets pregnant they will abort
The poorly educated will reproduce to create more poorly educated people…
No wonder Trump loves them so.
only if you plan on indoctrinating your kids with your own political beliefs
That's a pretty nonsense statistic. You're acting like voting habits are a genetic trait. Republicans don't have Republican children.
I was born and raised in Texas and I'm happy living here. Keep Texas culturally and socially conservative.
😂 savage
100% agree with you my brother
I agree
The funniest part to me (as a non-American) is that Hispanic immigrant voters are making Texas *even more Red*
What's even funnier is millions of them are children and grand children of illegal immigrants that Democrats refused to stop because they thought they'd always support them 😂@Global-yt
If you're from California, and don't vote Republican, stay out of Texas.
I fully intend to. The feeling is mutual.
@@jimwalshonline9346ok tuff boi
@@jimwalshonline9346good plz stay in commiefornia with your crazy mindset
As a Texan you should have realized by now that the reason Californians are moving here is because our state government and companies want them here. Basically speaking it’s Elon’s fault that this happened you foolish republican partisan. Seriously if you cared about this state of ours you would be an independent at minimum, instead of just following the majority of sheeple into two party oblivion.
@Reza, also you are a fake fan of Warhammer 40k if you can’t tell that it is literally critiquing our modern society through a grim-dark sci fi lens.
I'm a Statistical Analyst since 1985 and Relocation Specialist. Blue policies that are advanced in blue states create these housing issues. Overregulation/fees of developers, over taxation, artificially controlling housing markets (ie rent controls), high density, etc. is what creates the high cost of housing, lower quality, and lower supply. The default that the PNW and the CA coast is such a euphoric paradise is simply not true (I've visited many times). They definitely have their merits, but have their drawbacks like any other region: SoCal=smog, dry, brown, dusty, wildfires, drought, earthquakes. PNW=depressing rain, cloudy, dreary. On top of all of that, areas of the nation that have the highest crime rates, rates of homelessness, urban decay, social friction, rioting/looting, horrible Buying Power (income vs. cost of living), government overreach, etc. have been run by the Left for decades. It's not even debatable. That is way states like CA, NY, NJ, MA, and IL are loosing residents in record numbers are fleeing to red states like NC, SC, FL, TN, and TX. I see this every single day and meet this people. The Carolinas, for example, has an exponentially better quality of life than anywhere on the west coast. Green, lush, 4 seasons, perfect mix of sun/rain, strong economy, one of the best Buying Power Indexes in the nation, some of the best beaches in the nation, one of the lowest rates of homelessness in the nation, people are much happier/friendlier. The list goes on.
And how's the racial Integrity in those states are we talking about fully integrated, or separate but equal
Both parties are capitalists, just one is more low regulation and the other is high. The only way to fix this country is by not trying some new method of capitalism but abandoning the system outright for something better (I’m not referring to socialism btw). Capitalism is cringe, the US is cringe, the last good president was Theodore Roosevelt.
Also you only speak on the big democrat states but ignore the fact that states like New Hampshire have the highest quality of life in the union. Clear as day your bias is showing through your withholding of evidence that contradicts your edicts.
I've lived in SoCal all my life. There's definitely nothing "high density" about life here. Nearly everyone lives in suburban sprawl. That's the *real* problem. Overly-restrictive zoning laws prevent developers from building enough housing. It's simple supply-and-demand. This is a problem all over the country, but California seems to have the worst of it
You sound like a real estate developer in Carolinas 😂😂😂
Yeah, but seriously, you've nailed it. Bluereaucrats are killing their state economies.
I have lived in Florida most of my life and all these people moving here have made it less affordable to live here. Please stop saying Florida is an affordable state to live. It is not. Quality of life in this state has been in decline. Homelessness and Drug use are prevalent. Cost of living has only increased.
I blame all those democrats moving there
To push back, it depends where in Florida you live. For example, I live in Gainesville and the average house is about $290k. It's mostly Broward and Miami where the housing is really going up because people are moving from New York, DC, and San Fran.
@@thesmithersy literally republicans move to Florida
@@thesmithersythen you're a dummy who thinks all the people who move to Florida making it redder and redder every year are Democrats… tell me, would the people who keep telling us Florida will be underwater in less than a century really choose to live there?
@@thesmithersy can't be democrats if florida got more red over the years
Being from Texas, I was concerned that people moving here from CA and NY would turn the state blue.
The opposite has happened. The majority of the ones who came here leaned conservative and ended up making the state more red.
Biggest surprise was seeing CA and NY still shift more to the right, even after so many conservatives have left.
2024 was one election and a red wave at that. It's a bit early to declare that Cali, NY, and Texas shifted to the right. If the Republicans can keep their current voter share while they're in power, then I will agree with you completely. But I doubt that will be the case; midterms always punish whoever's in charge, and soon that will be you.
I'm from Florida, but have lived in Texas the past 20 years. BOTH TX and FL don't have state income taxes, that might be the reason folks are moving to those particular states.
Don't forget TN.
Yes but property taxes are ridiculous. You still have to find ways to raise revenue
tn doesn't have state income tax and people are moving here too.
@@jossykuriakose2097 True, but you can choose to live in a cheaper house and pay far less tax, regardless of your income. In other states, your income determines how much you pay.
Wa state doesn’t have state income taxes either. Some Californians are moving here, but it’s not the same migration magnet
As a Floridian, please stop moving here 🙏 The infrastructure can't take it
dont worry, even if half the people left, the infrastructure still wont take it, that state is doomed with climate change xp. All the insurance is leaving for a reason mate, its just not gonna be feasible to live where "once in a century" storms wipe out entire counties every season.
Move to a state that isn't falling into the sea dude, come to texas lol
Really? I havent noticed the sea getting any higher... but by all means, go ahead and tell me about how florida is sinking from your lovely little Austin, TX@unyieldingsarcasm2505
@@unyieldingsarcasm2505 Miami was supposed to be under water years ago. But keep believing the predictions that are always wrong.
Sorry, already bought my house lol. Headed down from Illinois soon.
Blaming it on cost of living and not on Democratic policies is wild 😂
Its a mix of both. They go hand and hand.
I thought the high cost of living was democratic policy. Tax rates being high, restricting developments makes houses expensive, wage minimums increase basic costs and many others. I don’t like either major party, but seems self evident cost of living will be higher in blue states. If the policy is worth the cost, people they will stay and move in unless restricted by outside forces. Seems they may have gone too far as people used to move to these blue states in the past.
Theyre connected.
high cost of living IS democrat policy, they are not "just connected", they are the SAME
Lol, in what universe is the cost of living not directly related to government policy?
I live in Massachusetts, and it's UMBERABLE here. Rent prices are SO HIGH. It's impossible to save up anything.
Who tf put a British voice over this? 😂
So a British person that migrated to the US seemed impossible to you?
Democrats think Brits sound more intelligent and it's all about fooling their constituents.
@@edwingarcia3521 how do you know he did this voice over from the US? Does it seem impossible to you he did it in the UK and sent over the file?
Lefties think that people with British accents sound more intelligent. It's all about fooling their viewers/listeners.
Well, I think it's bloody awesome, ol' chap! 😁❤️
People were saying this after 2004. Election cycles bring different patterns. Politics is an ever-changing game.
Exactly. This huge red shift could lead to another blue shift. The nation has been consistently shifting the other direction every election cycle besides 2012.
No! Absolutely NOT. the new woke DEI liberal left has turned against U.S. Citizens and the United States. The democratic party really doesn't exist anymore. Now yall are nothing but a bunch of hateful freeloading radicals hellbent on causing chaos and violence
Just a few years ago many experts were predicting that the country would shift blue.
@@offwhitejayR2E And it's not even that huge of a red shift. The GOP has a *3* seat majority in the house. Dems control multiple more states than they did post-2016.
@@austriasalzburg and some were predicting a red shift. What's your point?
People leave blue states because of blue policies.
And lots of those who leave still go to Red states and still vote stupidly for Dems
Then continue to vote blue.
@@cheesecakeisgross4645 I'm sure some do. But lots of us R voters move somewhere where we're not vilified just for thinking differently.
Yeah. Just like so many people leave third world countries and vote for the policies that ruined the country they lived in.
@@cheesecakeisgross4645 Vote, destroy, move, repeat. Lifecycle of a Californian.
My dad always asked, “if you work for a living, why would you vote Democrat?”
I lived in mid Michigan for a while. Plenty of white Trump republicans who live off the government dime aka our tax dollars.
Housing. Housing. Housing. Supply simply doesn't meet demand. The average person would rather live in a place like the Pacific Northwest, Costal california, or New york, than Houston. There just aren't enough homes.
It's the policies of those places that make housing unaffordable. Developing land is seen as spoiling nature and that tortures the soul of the eco-loons.
@bamaraiderable it's less to do with environmental laws and more to do with local cities/ nimbies oposing everything with zoning. Because rising prices help them personally.
And the only reason supply isn't available is because of local NIMBY and environmental regulations. Tokyo's population tripled and housing got cheaper because their zoning laws allowed for new homes to be built to match demand and construction of housing became cheaper over time.
@@bamaraiderable there's lots of developed land it's just not developed nearly enough
It's logic 101, need to constantly building homes ( residential homes & apartments ) to accommodate approximately 2 million legal immigrants & illegal migrants flood this country every year.
People who move from blue to red states, might also tend to be Republican voters from those states. One new trend in the US, is that people often no longer want to live in areas that don´t share their politics and that´s really bad for cohesion.
I think the US could have a really messy decade.
Very true. Where I live in NJ, most conservatives that move go to red states and about less than half are doing so after retirement.
@@Commonsense-u1h Exactly. The people who are leaving the West Coast for Texas or Florida tend to be the more conservative people in those states, which makes the states they leave even bluer and the states they move to even redder.
Prettyy simple decision when those politics mean rampant crime, decay, and social rot.
Common pattern of people making their money in blue states and then retiring in red states to save a couple dollars on taxes.
(Of course, they don't realize the lower quality of life and medical care until _after_ they move, but that's a different discussion 😁)
@@go4ride well not exactly, the states that shifted right the past election the most were blue states like New Jersey, New York, California, so those are the people that stayed in those states
If Republicans play things right, they could take both NY and Cali with how things are going.
Easily. But the elections are so rigged it’s not likely. The bias and political slander/threats to the right wing in New York and Cali are illegal but they persist and no one stops them. Especially if a democrat president is in charge, then the justice system will stay corrupt for then
Not in the near future.
lol
Do you see the map for both? There's alot of red!
Eww…don’t want ‘em. Gotta fence off those states so they don’t try and “escape” the bad policies they voted in for decades, just to bring them to sensible red states. Heck, even makin’ movies in GA these days! 😊
This is actually a good thing for America and Americans.
Next time, have a primary!
A primary would not have helped, democratic voters are radical
next time, don't care about BS things...
Kamala has this one flaw and Trump has these hundreds...
Magas: ohh we can't stand Kamalas flaw
@@latexviking8126 that one flaw must've been pretty horrible then
That would not have made a difference. People have had it with the arrogant elitism and condensation that is now the Democrat party. The Dems have lost the working class ENTIRELY in my lifetime and now represent the high earners, Wall Street, Big Pharma, Big Tech, censorship and WAR. NOPE! The American people have spoken. I, like millions, have walked away from the Democrat party.
They’d rather lose than allow someone who isn’t pre approved by lobbies to to win
If there's one thing I have learned over the past few election cycles, it's that nobody has any idea how to predict anything in the imminent future, let alone 6-16 years down the line. You can use all the data and math that you want, but more often than not there are just things we don't see coming. To claim that you know how some immigration patterns may affect electoral success a decade down the line is unbelievably shortsighted. Please stick to real journalism.
What if more arguments in favour of this prediction?
That's very true, but at the same time, it's a clear trend, and not one to take lightly.
Exactly. Who would have thought that Latinos will vote Republicans in such large numbers? Amish who usually didn't vote and were more comfortable with Democrats were the game changers for conservatives. Working class which voted Democrats for about 100 years has shifted to Republicans.
Nothing is predictable about human behaviour.
Also, if Republicans have to keep their Non white votes, they will have to compromise with core white conservative issues. Border issue will not dictate elections forever. This will make Republicans more liberal themselves.
Please keep in mind this is an opinion piece
@@AlexKawa20 Lmao you mean not one to take "lightly"?
How about changing the party to better meet the needs and address the concerns of a broader range of Americans?
The Democrat party is so beholden to the extreme left, that they are losing voters by the millions. Until they detach themselves from the extreme element on the left, they are going to continue to lose voters and elections.
no self reflection is racist.
in addition, the electoral college needs change to allow better political representation for even the independent or smaller parties (However, it has been like a century and this has never changed, at all)
That’s a fact! Democrats & the bubble they live in. Most of these diehard Democratic voters are just moderate republicans. They should just educate themselves & switch parties.
Hard pass on going right. That has ruined this country for over fifty years.
Put simply, Make America Great Again!
america is about to get more american?! sign me up!
It is republicans who are moving to red states from california New york and Illinois.
Yeah I hope no one believes this
That still has exactly the electoral college consequence that this ad described.
Even if that were true (it isn't), it would still have the exact same effect on future elections.
This is why blue states have become staunch defenders of sanctuary for illegals. They know that current census will count them as part of the population.
But to an extent, there are a lot of Dems moving to the red states. That's how you have AZ, GA, TX and NC going from red to purple. Clearly, the move to Florida is because of Republicans moving out of CA, NY and even TX. Btw, even though Texas went to Trump by 14 points this time, I'll still refute that they've become bluer. Ted Cruz only won his race by 296,000 votes in 2018 after winning by 1.2M votes in the 2012 election. That's the proof. In 2020, Trump won the state by 5.5 points after winning it by 9 points in 2016. That's a lot of blue shifts there. GA's 2 senators are now Democrats. For 16 years, they were both Republican. That's progress!
People vote with their feet. This migration is not a positive judgement on democrat policies.
They vote with their wallet. Democrat policies BANKRUPT everything
I just hope the majority who are moving realize why they are moving. Progressive policies will be just as bad in TX and FL as they are in CA and NY.
The Democrats are COOKED!
What’s wild is that a lot of people moving away from these living conditions will move someplace new and vote for the same crap.
Know some friends who moved to Arizona but then came rushing back to California when summer hit
💯agreed I live in California and the cost of living here is insanely expensive! I had to move back in my parents house. 😢 I have a full time job and a car but I’m saddened becuz this is my home state, I grew up here and it is a beautiful state but Newsom is ruining the state. My dad is in Texas and I think I’m about to move there.
The New York Times is getting even redder too....
It’s not that they are getting more conservative it’s that they always were but we’re just hiding it. The democrats are moderate right by world standards, they are literally just a controlled opposition party to make the people think they have a choice.
Have to...Trump could investigate them...and sue them for defamation. And I hope he does!
@@markanthony3275 seems like you're acknowledging Trump is intimidating the media. Free country we have.
@@larrylandry3057 Well this is how it works...if you are a publisher disseminating something that is demonstrably FALSE...then you open yourself up to a lawsuit...as ABC found out. Here's what could happen going forward...Mike Johnson keeps his word and releases all the evidence that the Congressional committee investigating how the FBI in collusion with the Democrats , orchestrated and incited the J6th Capitol riot. That means All the transcripts without redaction ( redacted for national security purposes don't ya' know), all the evidence sealed by the Democrat appointed judges who tried the rioters, all the video footage, all the police reports, all the internal FBI and DOJ documents, and all the e-mails, plus the evidence held by whistleblowers. When the American public finds out that this was all planned and carried out by the Democrats, then it would be defamation for any news outlet to keep insisting that Donald Trump is an insurrectionist threat to Democracy. Media types are feeling threatened...because they LIED. That's not true intimidation. Intimidation is when I threaten you, but you did nothing wrong. See the difference?
After what the media did to him I would say they deserve their failure they are experiencing. Thing is, Trump doesn't have to lift a finger. They've destroyed themselves among young people. Ppl who watch the propaganda cable news will probably pass away within 12 years or so.
That's why they want to keep the border open
Hey buddy ya know most immigrants are conservative right? Keeping the border open doesn't help dems at all lmao
@Mae_Dastardly Hey Buddy..If they were conservative, they would be coming in the country legally..not scurrying in like Rats.LMAO🤣
@Gary, I like how you assume conservatives can’t scurry around like rats. Honestly how have you not realized the capitalist overlords are the real ones responsible for all this mess. Be an independent, grow a brain.
@@Mae_Dastardlyit does in short term.
Most of em can't vote z
The censure doesn't care if you're citizen or not
So it helps them
By retaining electoral college numbers
Also
People are likely to vote for pro immigration candidates or parties if they have a family member who's undocumented.
@@Mae_Dastardly Immigrants will vote for whoever allowed them to come and stay in the country. Data shows they mostly vote for dems.
Clean up the streets. Treat crime and homelessness seriously
But could you do that without more taxation?
Crime is worse in red states than in blue states. The only two of the top ten states for murder are blue (Maryland and New Mexico), the rest are in the South. Texas has a higher murder rate than California, and almost double that of New York. The safest states are a mix: Rhode Island, Iowa, New Hampshire, Utah, Hawaii and Massachusetts.
@@XandateOfHeaven I like how you're conveniently leaving out that the high crime areas in the red states are ALL cities and we know what that means… Yep the thing we can't talk about…
@@deebee4575 I get that you're doing a racist dog whistle, but New Mexico and Alaska being in the top ten most dangerous states are sort of your fly in the ointment.
Also, what a sad argument. You think your crime doesn't count because you have awful cities? What a terrible excuse. New Orleans shouldn't have 20 times the murder rate of New York City
@@XandateOfHeaven Why do you think that is?
It’s great when the NYT has to admit this.
I don’t care about blue or red anymore, are houses going to get cheaper?? My family still doesn’t own a home…
Nope!
The recent red magic trick was to make believe that they could do anything better than blue about housing.
Both are as incompetent. Don't await anything for them, they are (and will be) unable to find a solution.
I sincerely wish you good luck, for you and your family.
@@francoiscamy5066 as though they ever tried. They know excactly what they are doing
Move somewhere rural, I paid under 11k for my property and I paid most of that off on Walmart wages.
Unfortunatly both political parties are capitalists in-till the revolution in like 15 years the housing market will stay garbage.
Maybe you Dems should be looking at WHY this is happening....
We know, the leadership just refuses to acknowledge the problem because they are 9000 years old and like making filthy amounts of money. If the party ditched the corporatism and switched back to actually being a left party vs diet republicans, the base would bother showing up.
As a life long Oregon resident I have been debating leaving for a few years due to liberal propaganda. I love my state but bad politics has destroyed it. The cherry on top is not being able to afford to live while the state gives away anything and everything to the homeless for free.
As an Utah resident moving here is an option as long as you don’t vote for the dems and respect our unique culture. But Idaho may be a better fit for you
So be homeless then if it sounds so great
Would it actually be red if Portland didn’t exist? My best friend from childhood out here in suburban Buffalo now lives in Eugene, and I know nothing how Eugene nor Salem votes.
NYT actually telling the truth (and it's good news) is very refreshing.
This has nothing to do with red/blue this has to do with population density. When you have 13 million people in a single city housing becomes competitive and it is a sellers market.
People aren't fleeing California or New York State, they are fleeing Las Angeles, San Francisco, New York City.
This exact same thing will happen even in red states. A good example of this is Salt Lake City, Utah. 10 years ago we housing in places like Rosa Parks, or Magna, West Valley etc.b cost 115-230 thousand dollars. Now those same houses cost 430-870 thousand and we now have 2.3 million people in the greater Salt Lake area.
When cities grow to a certain size it incentivizes big tech, law firms, and finance firms to move in. When those come you get a massive influx of high paying jobs. Well now high paying jobs means you can now realistically sell this crappy homes that are close to the downtown area for $900,000 instead of 230,000. But this drags up the prices of all housing in the city even though most people's jobs did not see a significant salary increase. Now the warehouse workers and truck drivers, and store clerks have to decide if it's better for them to stay in their home city or go somewhere that doesn't cost 34 years of salary just to buy a home.
This will happen in those red states guaranteed. It just might take 10-20 years.
Someone here gets it. They are a victim of their own success. It will happen to big cities in red states at some point.
Aside from California, weather is also a factor. Not a huge one, but I can imagine fleeing snowy winters is a bonus for more than a few. I'm surprised that wasn't mentioned in the video.
Taxes are proportional with the left-wing government.
You think people are fleeing only NYC?
I'm in the Carolinas, and we've taken in a lot of former New Yorkers. I've only met a few who came from NYC.
The vast majority left because of the policies being implemented by NYC voters, but they came from upstate New York.
No, they are fleeing entire states because of ridiculous progressive Democrat laws.
I hope we all know that it doesn't matter who is in the 'top job' because this is a systemic problem -- greed. We have allowed many of our economic sectors, to take advantage of the American people. It's disgusting and frightening for the future of our country. My husband and I will be retiring in the next two years n another country. We are absolutely worried that SS! will no longer be funded. we'll have to rely on his pension, a 403 (b) and a very prolific Investment account with Stephanie Janis Stiefel my FA. Our national debt is bloating and expanding every month. Our government needs to get spending under control and cut the federal budget.
I know this lady you just mentioned. Stephanie Janis Stiefel is a portfolio manager and investment advisor. She gained recognition as an employee of neuberger berman; a renowned investor she is. Stephanie Janis Stiefel has demonstrated expertise in investment strategies and has been involved in managing portfolios and providing guidance to clients.
I’m planning on moving to Thailand in the next 5 years if trump’s government doesn’t do anything with the high prices of groceries and taxes
What about you??
I went from no money to Invest with to busting my A** off on Uber eats for four months to raise about $20k to start trading with Stephanie Janis Stiefel. I am at $128k right now and LOVING that you have to bring this up here
Please stop gentrifying countries
How can i reach Stephanie if you don't mind me asking?
Heard she’s an IA.
And that’s a bad thing?
No
Title is unbiased. Read it again.
The establish knows that the real boss is back and people won't go back.
Why do they run away from their policies 🤔
Because they realize the consequences of their voting actions but have no way to fix it in the short term, so they move.
@ they’ll still vote blue no matter who.
They hate taking responsibilities for their own actions.
Both parties make the same mistakes if you really want change you would be an independent. Capitalism is the root cause. Also both parties fanbases vote for them no matter what, you republicans are no different.
@ lol. So wise. 😂 I’ve learned so much today
While I did not move from my home state of TX, I like many other black men left the Democrat party behind for the first timem this election cycle. The lies, deceit and the active harm done to my communites were the last straws.
Ba wa wa wa!!
So you voted for one of the most prolific liars in modern history for president.
@@ericmckinney4607Phew, atleast that didn't contribute to make her win.
Why’s a British guy telling me this
they dont have a "left or right" in Britain.
People are waking up
You mean GOOD news, because that's what it is. We're finally taking our country back.
We the people had enough with the Crazy WOKE things , Blue should never win again until Do Better !
Bad news, wealthy corporations: Americans don't care about party quite as much as they do about their lives.
The tree of liberty is looking mighty parched these days.
I left Los Angeles in 2012 and settled in the mountains of northern Utah. Best decision I ever made.
See part of the problem with American politics is viewing states as immovably Republican or Democrat, so the parties don't even bother and focus all their efforts on a small handful of swing states. The reality is that many states change parties, and did so very often. Relying on demographics instead of courting voters is poisonous to our politics.
The sad thing is, it´s a rational electoral strategy for most of the country and the US is getting more rather than less polarised, i.e the Republicans might as well not spend a penny in California, the Democrats might as well not spend a penny in Texas.
The other thing is the media love to create stupid conflicts over relatively trivial issues, i.e transgender athletes, so people are distracted by minor things and ignore stuff like the opioid epidemic, or the big wealth inequalities.
Try telling your theory to Louisiana... get back to me on the last time they voted Blue.
@@wolfshanze5980 1996
@@wolfshanze5980Louisiana does occasionally elect Democratic governors.
Fantastic, happy to hear it, thank you.
As an independent this is not a good thing as it just means that if this occurs the already virtually identical (in economic and governmental policy) parties will get even more the same.
I would never even visit CA or NY anymore.
And safety. Forgot about safety. And parent rights.
Well done NYT
California has a better chance turning red then texas turning blue lol
Tbh I wonder if this trend will continue no matter what they did, because people are more and more working remotely. If you can get red-state cost of living, with blue state incomes, there's a lot of motivation to leave. Yes, cost of living is a big part of the picture right now, but I wonder if other reasons will replace those in the future anyway.
Cost of living is a factor, but no one successful in a blue state is gonna want to live in a red state, especially has red states further regress into this 1800s obsession with stripping rights from everyone whos not a strait white male Christian. I would much rather have higher costs and live in a free society ty.
Not really because party platforms tend to change eventually to accommodate the population in two party states
Pride cometh before the fall. - Proverbs 16:18
As a Texan, quit moving here, I hate the traffic.
Interesting trends. Unfortunately changes in policies do not reflect immediately on the ground. The damage done in blue states will take long to reverse.
"damage done"? what, the higher standard of living, education, worker rights, social rights, income and pretty much every other metric across the board?
gimmi more of that "damage" please lol
You really think the republicans won’t do the same mistakes? Really?? Both parties are economically identical they will make the same mistakes forever and ever in till we abolish both parties once and for all! As an independent you partisan fools disgust me!
@@katelawyer3689 Of all the "both parties are the same" fallacies put out there, this may be the dumbest one ever.
Both parties are economically identical? almost all the actual job growth of the past 30 years have happened under dems, almost all the labor protection, safety protection, and recoveries. This isnt a debate, its just public data.
Both parties are largely owned by the rich, but they clearly have different ways of going about ruling, and one is actually beneficial.
@@unyieldingsarcasm2505wrong, red states are doing much better than blue states now
@@unyieldingsarcasm2505great use of linguistics and gaslighting. Phrase it any way you want. Call it "political facts" even. No one believes your hogwash besides your own nihilist progressive comrades living in your white nimby bubble.
Honestly, I'm tired of seeing blue. Really sick of blue.
You'll be sick of Agent Orange when he declares Matrial Law, cause you voted for this to be happen. Then you're gonna look back on you're statement.
Martial Law is good. I'm all in !
@@libramoon9968 That's not how the people of South Korea felt.
Oh this halsey tea
@@Waddle355 "Halsey Tea"?
Go woke Go broke!
This is the best and only good news I've seen from NYT in years.
Liberals in 2020: Republicans have NO chance to win another election again 😂
2024:
And they have California burning with these wild fires 😭🙏 thank god I voted Trump
After these last few years, I told myself if I ever move to another state, it’ll be a red state. And yes, I’d vote accordingly.
🤢
As long as those who are emigrating from blue states leave their politics there!!
A lot of those people are Republicans living in blue states
@@claytonlatone8959 He's referring to liberals that migrate to the exurbs and rural areas. They don't brush up on their state laws when they move here and try to test the waters on neighbors. They end up embarrassing themselves in front of the sheriff's department.
No 💞
Democrat politicians making "their states places people can afford to stay" challenge (impossible)
Texas is no longer "affordable". That ship has sailed.
It is compared to NYC, SF, LA.
0:06 "..and it has nothing to do with Inflation..", then proceeds to show us data that indicates the migration of people to other states has to do with Inflation. I can guarantee you, the high cost of living is one of the main causes of people moving to these other states.
inflation is a global issue.
Funny how you still repeat the same talking points even after they lost you the election lol
Looks like good news to more that 50% of the country!
NYT not realizing THEYRE one of the main reasons people going right is hilarious and peak irony. “People are just blindly believing our lies boohoo”
NC, GA, and AZ are still purple to slightly red states
AZ voted trump by more than 5 point because latinos are now shifting to GOP
It’s not just that but even though most of these people moving from blue states are republicans wanting to move to red states, you would think those blue states would get bluer, but they aren’t. CA, NY, IL, NJ all keep shifting to the right.
But with Texas’s tornados, Florida’s sea level risk and hurricanes, and Arizonas water accessibility also the ridiculous heat idk
You are indoctrinated.
Yep. And people who keep believing climate change is a hoax. Florida will have to be evacuated well before actual submersion, though we're on track to lose Thwaites within the next 10 or so years.
Typical progressive forgetting California and its drought and wildfire problems. By the way there’s a big wildfire going on there right now!!
Lol sounds like someone whose taken all the recommended covid boosters would say
If I had to move to America, I wouldn't move far south. I love all four seasons, I just wish they were equal in length, that would be a paradise for me! Plus...the more lazy a person is, the more they like it warm all year...and the more likely they are to be criminals instead of working . People have studied this effect and noticed that around the equator, it doesn't matter which country, you have lazy useless males who do nothing but copulate with as many females as they can, and fight, and you have women who bear all the responsibility. Hmmm...does this pattern manifest itself in a certain segment of the American urban population??? Nuff said.
It's not just the cost of living. It's also the horrendous leadership.
Housing Yes.. but home offices and remote work has become more common place..
For instance. , a New York programmer can work on a project from Miami Beach ..
Companies are fighting remote work.Basically they have big mega structures but that will go out of service if they're not used so it's beneficial for them to get rid of it
...and vote for Trump
I'm so glad I voted for Trump.
I don't usually agree with the New York Times, but this is absolutely spot on.
Its not just about affordability. Public safety, culture, regulations, taxes, weather.
Bad News Democrats, GOOD NEWS NORMAL PEOPLE!
@@divinezoomer7305 This guy gets it
lol. Supporting Trump and calling yourself 'normal' is crazy.
@@dantethecharred saying you can change your gender and calling yourself normal is even crazier
@@dantethecharred Bro you turned mutilating kids, from an Auschwitz thing to a political talking point.
Texas and Florida are more red now!
Homes are too much! A house on average today is $400.000 to $500,000. my mom and dad paid under $75,000 for a 4 bed and 3 in a half bath with two cars and a boat. Today you have to be a millionaire to have all that. today's homes and boats are just overpriced. Plus, the mishandling of finance and over giving money to our military and other countries in our budget that is being wasted and has caused financial issues elsewhere for multiple welfare programs, and our infrastructure. The costs from climate change is causing financial ruin. Republicans know about climate change but refuse to do anything while liberals talk about it and do a halfglass approach while lining their pockets. The country can't afford another 4 years of failed leadership, and unfortunately, we will still have it. Democrats and Republicans aren't the answer to our problems and unfortunately they are needed to run our country atm and they will continue this back and forth nonsense between each other while the rest of us in the middle are screwed. The American dream died under my parents generation. I have no saving and own a mobile home but it's falling apart. I blame the boomer generation for it all.
And you don't think allowing in 7 million people over the last four years who are all clamoring for places to live had anything to do with that?🤣
@@deebee4575 Do you think the immigrants, who are working at packing plants and seasonal farming, are the ones buying the million dollar houses?
@@deebee4575 You think they have the money to outbid whites on housing? No, it's the private equity firms and the 1% that ruined it, buying up houses with no intent of living there, but rather renting them out. Just amazing how Fox News can get people to believe that the reason they have little is because of those who have nothing. Political power does not work that way.
The median price of a home nationally is $420,000. The median price of a home where I live in San Diego is $950,000. I hope no one is surprised by this migration to lower-priced areas.
The last point is very important...but is not going to happen.
"Make their states places people can afford to stay".
I was a NY'er for over 45 years. For decades I had been hoping that NY would get their affairs in order and lower or at least level off taxes, minimum wage hikes, etc.
Nope. It just kept getting worse and worse. At least I could deduct my taxes from my federal income taxes. After Trump's Tax "Cuts", I closed shop and moved to TX.
After years of Democrats calling for higher taxes on the rich Trump basically passed a tax reform law that taxed rich Democrats. The people hit hardest by the restrictions on SALT deductions were rich people in blue states but basically everyone else got a tax cut out of it.
One thing: BUILD MORE HOUSING
We need a WW2 style GI Housing plan to stop the growing expense
@@thejquinnor just cut zoning regulations and “historic views”
Just cut immigration. 1,200,000 every year (legal numbers) is too much to keep up with.
How about not letting 7 to 8,000,000 people who have no means of self support into the country over four years? How about that?
@@nhjhbmkuy7173 But that would still keep prices high,im suggesting the government literally steps into the market
You do realize state taxes citizens to provide services. While some states have no income tax, they make it up with other types of taxes. Look at the property taxes in Texas or its sales taxes. As for lack of housing this has been going on in the whole USA for decades. The government can't make people build homes. With a country of 400 million people you need regulation. Government is there to protect citizens: consumer protections is one example . I thought every citizen would like clean and water, am i correct. Or safe work environment
Blue states should pay for red states.
All i ask of my government is to protect my rights. That is it.
Dems cannot stop spending
People are just finally realizing it doesn’t benefit hard working, tax paying citizens to live in a state that wants to take all your hard earned money from you.
There is a point most analysts are missing: the largest age demographic is now the millennials. They are now solidly in their 30s with some in their early 40s. They have matured, have jobs, homes, families, etc. They are learning what every generation preceding them have learned: adulting is HARD. Harsh reality brings a conservative point of view. We lived through the same shift in the 1980s when the boomers came out of orbit.
sept its not the millennials pivoting to the right, they are statistically just as blue if not bluer.
If you actually look at the math, its not "the country is becoming so red omg" like this crap is claiming, its that blue voters just didnt bother to show up this cycle. And why would they when the dems insist on pandering to the right while ignoring their actual base?
LOL
You are assuming all those domestic migrants will vote republican in their newly adopted states. That might not be the case.
They will be deported if they came illegally
Bad news??? What happened to unbiased media?
To be fair, it says bad news for Democrats.
Read the rest of the title. If you still don't get it, I'm sure there are some free apps somewhere that you can use to improve your reading comprehension skills. 8 upvotes; amazing. I shed a tear for the state of literacy in America.
Ironically, they were pretty biased in the way they avoided talking about the politics of those states, yet you somehow chose an example of them not being biased at all.
Has never been a thing lol what
I’m born and raised in California Los Angeles, and I’m 28 now and I can’t even afford to leave the state let alone save enough money because my money always drops because of cost of living.
Apparently, traditional family values have survived the woke onslaught.
Do these numbers account for immigration and aging into voter eligibility?
Red red red ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
I hope democrats never win any elections. They reinstated Nazi ausweis where people who dont have ausweis couldnt go to restaurant couldnt work
this is no different than what Nazis did to Jews hopefully these devils never form any government unfortunately history repeated itself
Moving out of Massachusetts and going to New Hampshire to help make it red. And I’m a liberal guy. Just not a leftist. It’s too much here in mass, it’s getting bad.
I left Worcester county for Philadelphia, turning things red!