PTSD? Man my boy Pac was being traumatized his whole life. Parents black panthers in drama, Real pops locked up then got out didn't meet Pac for years, Mutulu gets locked up then dies, and Pac sees his mama on crack but still loved her and respected her. Then to see street stuff and be in the mix of street stuff to being betrayed a lot. Black culture didn't deserve this Majestic Panther. He was constantly battle scarred, war scarred and battle tested. RIP the GOAT. Man stayed stressing you can tell when he was on the cigarettes too and drinking a lot. All these court problems while being a superstar juggling doing shows, movies, studio sessions, TV show appearances, etc. Man was super busy and versatile. A true workhorse. Man if Pac lived I could see video games and all before 50 Cent and others did it.
How do you do all this research and put together a decent video but still get things wrong. All Eyez On Me was his 4th album. Me Against The World was the album that Stretch was removed from. At Quad, they were not outnumbered. There was 2 gunmen. 2PAC was with Stretch, Zayde and Nichols. Lastly the song is So Many Tears not Many Tears. And please stop using A.I. to narrate.
This got me too and switched off at that point as how much more of the video is just poor research. Videos just made to maximise ad revenue for the creator sadly
And i believe Stretch was trying to holla at one of Pac girls while he was locked up. And shorty told Pac about dude in a letter. So he realized he couldn't trust this dude.
Man look PAC had the heart of a PANTHER a lot of you don’t know nor understand the blood that ran in his vains PAC didn’t care about no girl let me te you this from somebody who has been in the streets for more time than I have been alive if we have beef and anybody is on the fence you automatically put him over on the other side because it can be the difference of life and death for you I’m never lost on the fact that most people on here are not Black American and definitely not in the streets so yall have no clue about us so I take what yall say with a grain of salt!
Yeah that would've made me look at dude another way, you know how many women in this world? Why try to talk to the one im smashing on? Especially during the fucked up times we in right now with this Shooting shit
As a huge 2pac fan I lost respect for stretch when I heard the tapes on arts of dialog and stretch was talking really disrespectful about 2pac and that robbery situation immediately I realize 2pac was right the whole time...dude betrayed 2pac in the worst way when he was part of that robbery and 2pac ex even said he tried to get with with her.
It was an interview in response to 2pac speaking in an unfavorable way toward him in a national magazine. Fair to take that into account before you judge...
Can't speak to the situation with the girl...but 2pac did the same thing with Faith? Was he justified because he was upset? If so, is it possible that Stretch was upset that 2pac spoke unfavorable about him in a national magazine and figured she was fair game the way 2pac figured Faith was? Quad works just fine without the suggestion that Stretch was involved. Furthermore, Is there proof that he was involved? Or do we believe anything that further's the narrative that 2pac was a hero with evil villains?
Realistically, we can't call what we do not know a fact. It could very well be that Pac made the accusations against stretch and then stretch's vibe interview was retaliatory because by that point, they were enemies and once Tupac spoke out against Big Stretch, many people turned their backs on stretch. Live Squad were from Queens, they were always gonna be down with NY and biggie. Stretch stayed in NY, Pac was repping the west by that point. Stretch was always gonna stay loyal to NY and live squad over Pac. Especially after accusations like that. If there's anything that I would speculate to be a conspiracy that was true, it'd be that Pac had Stretch put down from Dannemora Max.
The crazy thing is that Stretch beeing involved is likely what led Tupac thinking Biggie was involved as well. Finding out a homeboy was involved would make anyone paranoid to the point of thinking everyone could be in on it.
@@sleepysoundzzz403 exactly. I can’t remember if it was the vibe or somewhere where pac said that he gave stretch his stained pants with his gf keys during quad incident then later it got broken into with the keys or something. Also on top of that he told Jimmy that pac “clapped. himself at quad” like who tells the enemy that happened to your best friend then tells the biggie and the vibe magazine smh.
All them East Coast Ninjas didn't like Pac. They all were Jealous of him. All was quiet when Pac was alive now they all got something to say now he's gone. Even Snoop dogg bitch ass talking shit.
He actually doesn’t sound dumb if Tupac actually knew the truth of who actually set him up and he was just being paranoid so he could’ve just did some type of gesture like flowers or something for the funeral.
Just like Napoleon, you totally take it out of context. That message wasn't for Pac. That message was for Live Squad/Young Guns. All you seem to ignore that Nickles caught a bullet too and there was a rumor out that the YG was gonna retaliate against Jimmy. That's why Jimmy called Stretch's mother house (that in itself was a warning) and told Stretch that he didn't have anything to do with it, BUT if THEY wanted a war, they better get their money right. Stretch let Pac know what was going on. That message wasn't even for Pac. Y'all act like Pac was about to start hunting down Jimmy and Jimmy was scared of him.
You can’t tell someone whose been shot how to feel. Also Stretch was moving wild. Pac house got broken in to, and they said stretch had the key, and his girl wrote him saying he was trying to get at her. Don’t get me wrong stretch was a talent, but he was moving wild running with the folks who shot pac
A guy that says he was one of them that night...said he was in on it ...his job was to make sure Pac came to the studio...and was paid a 8th of a brick...and Pac said all day that day he kept reminding Pac about the studio session
@RedceLL1978 I slightly disagree. I could make the argument that Me against the world was a complete album with no skipping on the CD. Thug Life had a few songs I skipped over simply because Pac wasn't on all of them and the other rappers just weren't up to par.
@@princeda8thseed to each their own, I just found that there was as many good songs on each, i liked em both greatly. Vol 1 had under pressure, str8 ballin, bury me a g, how long will they mourn me, pour out a little liquor, don't get it twisted, cradle to the grave, i mean just so many killer songs. I'm not sure what you mean though, there was only 2 songs that didn't have pac and even those were bangers as well
Ed lover ctfu... Talking about he could have came to the funeral but he couldn't visit pac because he didn't have an ID.. plus listen to the energy in stretch's voice when he's being interviewed sound like he just down talking his so-called best friend and talking about Jimmy said get your money right before you go to war, now which would you believe? Don't be a dummy
Stfup pac knew who did it he couldn’t fuck with the people that did it and he went at big when he damn well no who step to him Tupac was nothing but an overrated actor 😂
He was extremely selfish and insecure. When someone has problems with almost everyone they've had problems with, maybe it's that person's fault. He expected Stretch to sacrifice himself for Pacs jewelry, because Pac was short. Pac fans are so disturbed and you'll assume I'm a hater because I are flaws in his character. I like some of his music but as with all people, he was very flawed. He got fame and thought that lady couldn't refuse him, he got the same treatment in prison though.
Well that may be so but onlh because of how it is an insane to think anybody is without SOME flaw or another fwiw because of even just having at least something a bit of a minor nuiscance they only human after all so Imean it is just to be expected fwiw
Pac definitely wasn't attending Stretch funeral as he believed Stretch had betrayed him. Unfortunately, Me knowing Pac" I was able to hear and witness in real time the treachery and compliscent behavior of Stretch after Pac died. If Stretch was Pac man, then why dud Black Lindsey give Pac the firearm to take to Quad Studios that night. Why didn't Stretch jump into the line of fire. Instead Stretch, let Pac be in the line of fire and Stretch coward like a hit dog hollering. The whole thing was a set up. Although ,ALLEGED I BELIEVE BY PUFF, HENCHMAN, JACK, TUT, AND BIGGIE " WHO KNEW AFTER THE FACT".
I don’t think biggie had anything to do with it I think diddy saw biggie as the escape route knowing he was gonna take out biggie it’d be easier to setup back get at biggie and everyone blames the east and west coast instead of it blowing back on him
@joelewis8440 I believe that Biggie knew after the fact. But, chose to stay out the way. All Pac wanted was Biggie to say, " he knew after the fact and confirmed what pac already knew." Im not sure why Biggie chose not to do so. But, back then, Jack " was known as a hanger on of celebrities and con artist allegedly. I was once with Pac and Jack as we were headed to Madonna house. Pac and Lindsey smoked, drank Hennessey, and played Spice 1. Jack said absolutely nothing and just drove. So, I never took Jack as the Tuff Street nicca, he claims to be. Henchman was known not to be played with.
Ed lover wanna keep it all friends but dude secretly was jealous of Tupac it is what it is and it began to show itself. The female told us stretch tried to knock her while Pac was in prison. Stretch got murdered because he was grimey
Nope, he was paranoid and had emotional issues as do his fans. Pac was more of a gay ballerina than a gangster. I like some of his music but he was extremely unloyal and acted like a victim constantly, he couldn't keep a real friend and expected people to crash out for him. Anyone who grew up listening to Pac and still thinks he's perfect is a grade A moron.
@@user-wb7nv9ht1gonly a true goofy talks like this without any real credibility to back it up pac was never a gangsta and taking ballet class as a kid don’t make you a ballerina 😂 yall be saying anything.
@Asvpsupreme after the lies ypu talk.. may the reaper tie your fake tounge.. & binding your paving the hate towards a person you've never met! ##thetruthaintinyou #andthatorder Simpleton 👂🏾👀
@10:35 Stretch lied on a majority of that. He defintiely did NOT see Pac *AFTER* the Quad shooting 😂. (I didn't realize all these years he actually said that on record.) 2Pac made bail via Death Row on October 12th 1995, Stretch's death on November 30th. There is NO confirmation of Stretch coming into contact with Death Row or Pac during that 50 day window. He is frontin' big time in that interview.
Tupac didn't get locked up right away. He was healing up at jasmine guys house for a month or 2 before going to prison. Stretch came there to visit him with a message from Jimmy.
What some people don't understand about that situation ...is that Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack knew each other...both Haitian and from Brooklyn ...both from Brooklyn...they were both into promoting and management in NYC..a executive producer on albums by major label artists and basically a silent partner in a popular nightclub...no talk of how Pac and Jimmy Henchman were arguing on the phone because Pac was late to that infamous studio session because he did a freestyle for a Ron G mixtape for cash money...instead of some up front and some later...with Jimmy Henchmen...the Bad Boy offices was down the street from Quad Studios ...they were on Arista...Diddy and Biggie were scared of that dude...Live Squad took that heat and there was a greenlight on Randy " Stretch " Walker ( RIP) too...but one of his peoples was the notorious E Money Bags( RIP)...they had to catch him alone...being tall...has nothing to do with guns ...people get into hero worship with Pac ( RIP) but he was not a perfect angel...he could be hot headed and a loud mouth who reacted without thinking sometimes!
Stretch could have been somebody in life if he had stayed loyal. Why is ED mad at Pac for not attending the funeral but doesn't say anything about Biggie not attending as well.
@suntzuusuntzuu7058 how when pac called him out in the interview about him getting robbed, and basically blamed him for not swinging on mofos with guns....foh
Stretch's verse on Pain was legendary! I still get goosebumps listening to it 30 years later. One of the rare rappers to hold his own on a track with Pac. You can actually argue who had the best verse
You don’t know what you talking about and neither does the guy above you so none of you should even have anything to say about Black people or Black culture PAC was a BLACK PANTHER AND YALL WILL TALK CRAZY ABOUT HE WASNT A GANGSTER HE WAS GREATER THAN ANY GANGSTER COULD EVER BE!
I want BLACK AMERICANS to peep something. 2PAC was a BLACK AMERICAN STRETCH Jamaican JACK HATIAN JIMMY HATIAN BIGGIE JAMAICAN Moral of the story. LEAVE THEM PPL ALONE!!! Same way the do us going against us in politics we are expendable to them in streets and otherwise.
@TAWS-wq3hx i had a life long "friend" 25 years I overlooked a lot of things. That Bahamian dude opened my eyes with his hate envy and betrayal. They don't wanna eat with us they want to replace us. No amount of friend ship can ever gain they loyalty. I got a zero tether policy now
No one looks at Big the way you are trying to portray him so maybe keep your mouth closed making 🤡 a$$ conjectures. And I’m a non-Caribbean. Stop making sweeping generalizations. Yall 🥷s lazy with the thinking these days. Just say anything
9:42 wrong!!!!!! All Eyez On Me was his 4th album. His albums are: 1. 2Pacalypse Now 2. Strictly 4 My Nxxxxx 3. Me Against The World 4. All Eyez On Me 😊😊😊😊 The Thug Life album was a group album.
My nigga shot up and locked up no I.d or not I’m up there with everybody else let him know I’m outside love you baby we gone work it out ima get that I.d we gone talk… been there done that. I don’t understand how u not go see yall dog esp if he think im playing him
@@johnstarks2537 The "ThugLife" album is similar to the "Still I Rise" album. They were both group albums, the 1st one with ThugLife, the 2nd one with the Outlawz . That would be like saying D12's album, "Devil's Night" was an Eminem album.
Stretch was a clown and was never Pac real friend. He claimed he was Pac muscle, but yet wasn't carrying the night pC got hit. It was Black Lindsey who gave Pac the firearm to go to Quad Studios that night. Stretch said, he had everything covered, so Lindsey stayed behind. So, if you're supposed to be the muscle, why was Pac hit and why Stretch didn't protect his man.
Ed lover don’t get it and most who have never been shot really have no clue on how the paranoia kick in and you don’t trust nobody man look I got hit and you don’t know who you could trust and if somebody that is close to you is on the fence you out him over there because that can cause you your life!
It is so funny to me years later you have haters out here Hatin on 2pac say he was a Hollywood Actor he was pretending to be hard WTF 🤦. Name one Hollywood actor that got shot 9 times other then 50 cent I'm going to say it now Tupac was a icon Tupac with 25 years old when he died imagine if he would have got to finish what he started.
@@blameks9136 yea cause non gangsters shoot two cops and throw middle fingers to reporters while shot up on a stretch no wait soft guys confronted nas in new and his people in New York guns drawn if pac ain’t gangster most rappers now ain’t either
Pick a side? If you got shot up n ur closest homies ain't do shit u gonna feel sum kinda way regardless. You don't have to go n physically see sum1 in prison u can call? U can write u can do alot things. 1 thing u don't do is keep hanging out with the person you feel had set u up n then make a song " who shot ya" 2pac never jumped to conclusions he made sure he had all the evidence before going with his gut feeling. If stretch was a real homie he would of done everything and anything to show Pac he had nothing to do with Quad but he didn't. So it is wat it is 2pac was to loyal for these fools.
There way more to this story. Pac was talking crazy to Henchmen so Henchmen set up a studio session for Pac to pull up to. The plan was for Pac to get disciplined. It just went the way it because PAC was had his gun on him and was gonna use it (as he should). Stretch and them wasn’t strapped at all and had guns pointed at them. And the dudes that did it was order to go at Pac and Pac only. After that, stretch was gonna retaliate then Jimmy called his mother crib threatening and saying for them to get the money up if you want to go to war. Stretch told pac about it. Where stretch and pac fell out at is that he wanted stretch to pick a side with him or biggie kuz he was still hanging with him lik they all was when they was cool. Stretch wasn’t jacking it because pac knew who really did that and knew big had absolutely nothing to do with it which was true.
@@princejustin5465that’s not even really the story. Pac never talked crazy or mouthed all to Jimmy that’s a lie. He had an interview where he insulted Haitian Jack and ruined a contract with him and Madonna. Jimmy set up pac on behalf of Jack (even Jack said this himself). As far as stretch, stretch drove pac to quad and before they went in stretch himself said that it was suspect before going in. The worst part of it all Jimmy in a fab five interview said that stretch told him that pac boomed. Himself at quad. After that he told biggie and then the vibe that same rumor. Smh
@@princejustin5465there’s more.. while pac was on the stretcher he gave stretch his pants that had his gf keys in it during quad then not that long after his gf place gets broken into with the key. Stretch also tried to holla at his girl behind his back while he was at jail. Stretch was a shady character. Stretch wasn’t going to retaliate for pac he was heated about Freddie nickels because nickols was yg and got injured that night at quad. Jimmy was worried that he was going to get back but stretch NEVER did.
@ he was talking on Jack and people around Jack including Henchmen wanted to do something but Jack was telling dudes to let it be but when Jimmy and pac was arguing, it was over wit. During the argument over the phone, pac thru the Frank (smd) at him which in if you from the towns(NY) you better be ready to go all out over those words. This came from stretch brother mouth. Jimmy set up the session for pac to pull up. Pac thought he was going to the Stu to go record and get paid kuz pac wasn’t getting money like that so he was willing to do features, tv, movies etc just to get a bag. The plan was just to put belt to ass but Yk pac wasn’t going down like that so the end up shooting him. Pac still trynna fight niggas off and also end up popping himself in the groin
@ pac did accidentally shot himself kuz they was fighting over the gun. Ngl pac tuff as hell for that. To be shot end you still trynna fight to get the one up on them. I respect that.
Part of PAC’s mind was his own enemy. I can’t imagine the anxiety Pac went through. Always wondered how PAC would have been had he been himself and not the persona.
What’s crazy is he went off on his friends at that. Getting shot will fuck you up mentally. But still, was some coward shit go after his friends, knowing the whole time who shot him. God rest all 3 of those brotha’s souls.
Jeremiah 17:5: "This is what the Lord says: 'Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the Lord.
I believe that why big died so quick after pac. I think big found out puff was involved in that and that's why big was trying to distance himself from puff. They weren't hanging around in the last months of bigs life. thats why puff was trying like hell to get a answer from big if he was going to the Quincy jones party. and puff used d roc to get him to the party and they killed big. I dont know if anyone knows but big was in south central paying off the crips for security they had done for him. that one of them crips asked big "what about that cash for pac?" Big said I have nothing to do with that, thats your beef isn't it? Than that crip said what's the difference? it got done didn't it? Big said I never paid or said I would pay to do anything to pac. again thats you and your set. So I believe that little altercation with that crip being greedy exposed to big what really happened. that made puff look suspect cuz big never dealt with the crips it was always puff. So I think the rips told puff that big knows. so if big was able to get home he would have opened a can of worms that evidently puff would have to watch his back because everyone would have been gunnin for puff. I think big would have used that to distance himself and to get puff taken care of without him having to do shit.
@ I have magazines bro. I collected every single mag during that time. The source, murderdog, xxl, vanity fair, and the Quincy jones mag vibe. Even a couple issues in playboy where some questions were asked to the guest about certain times in music industry
@ most of those photos that are shown these days with supposedly big wearing pacs jewelry? Those is fake my man. No cap. I have most of those photos in these magazines and they show no jewelry if the kind. The only major piece that big had on him that was jewelry…. The Jesus piece. That’s it and he had a pinky ring also that he hardly wore. The only time I saw that worn was when he taking that photo shot by the fireplace and he had a cain. That’s it. And puff daddy is responsible for both. I’m not saying that clears suge and death row but puff may have had direct responsibility for pac. And for big he just did death row and their associates a favor by bringing big out here to get hit.
The Art of Dialog MESSY. It's years later and you being MESSY., both Pac and Stretch are not here to defend themselves. Stretch has a child. People now always trying to keep a feed. It's years later dude. MESSY
People need to understand Pac got almost killed, he was under a lot stress, paranoid, and didn´t know who to trust anymore. At that stage everybody begins to look suspicious to you. I'm not saying he was right or wrong--that ain't for me to judge--I'm simply sharing different perspective.
@@Switchesnbizness that wasn’t the reason they came for him keep it real 😂 they was THERE FOR HIM. Pac had all that jewelry and mind you stretch was the only one who wasn’t jacked
@ oh true ..I’m just clowning the thought process that it was everyone else besides the guy who got on tv and in court said one of the biggest street guys was a rapist was confused he almost got killed in that guys same city …also there’s stories of him not paying any of the street dudes in nyc protecting him but going jewelry shopping around them ,when the stories of how he was moving in nyc add up its like how does no one else see this .idk if a nyc dude like mike Tyson tells me to not hang w some dudes cuz they are killers I may could listen to mike idk that’s just me .id never go to a city I moved away from at 9 and act like I was still tapped in and knew what was what
Stop with the misinformation you tether, I bet you don’t even like American black peoples, but you guys sure love to make money off us . Talk about your artist or actors
Tupac wylding thinking his boy was supposed to grab someone with his gun out. They had the drop on them not the other way around. The thing I don’t understand is how Tupac and them didn’t notice dudes in the lobby looking suspicious.
2pac was a fkn fool. I love his music but he always let his sensitive ass emotions get in the way and that's what got him killed. Stretch even said it seemed shady when they pulled up. 2pac thought he was a super thug but was in way over his head
@TAWS-wq3hx 30 years ago hommie you must was cool with them guys it is petty and unfortunate when 3 friends dead especially when we on social media going by he say she say dead men don't talk we don't know what the hell happened
@@Aintthatsum1983 no I'm not cool when shady behavior takes place. Like I said when you make mistakes your bound to pay for it. A good chunk of what Stretch said in his response was bogus anyway. Lies. Biggie was no saint either. His mistake was coming out to L.A thinking the smoke cleared......
Why didnt Stretch visit Tupac in Jail and why was he trying to say Tupac shot himself?? Why was Stretch delivering messages from the guy that had Tupac shot to him??
@@TheSpinnerRack zayd was defending his friend and didn’t seen how shady stretch was that’s all. I’m not saying stretch was involved but he was extremely suspect and he has a whole list of reasons why. I can tell you if you’d like 😂
I'll never go to a person funeral if I think they set me up.
@@mayamonique4134 also the streets talk ..people knew he did Pac dirty...they wasn't going to attend his funeral...
Correct! Fuc em! Fam too!
Rumors are Pac put the hit out on Stretch 🤫
“Switched sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead..”
They did 😅😅😅
Bro I was 13 when this song came out and I just put it together just now
@@urbansaucetv3261 lol
bro stretch was a bad dude
Lying pac the one who switch sides
PTSD? Man my boy Pac was being traumatized his whole life. Parents black panthers in drama, Real pops locked up then got out didn't meet Pac for years, Mutulu gets locked up then dies, and Pac sees his mama on crack but still loved her and respected her. Then to see street stuff and be in the mix of street stuff to being betrayed a lot. Black culture didn't deserve this Majestic Panther. He was constantly battle scarred, war scarred and battle tested. RIP the GOAT.
Man stayed stressing you can tell when he was on the cigarettes too and drinking a lot. All these court problems while being a superstar juggling doing shows, movies, studio sessions, TV show appearances, etc. Man was super busy and versatile. A true workhorse. Man if Pac lived I could see video games and all before 50 Cent and others did it.
Well said!
That's the life of every CHOSEN ONE.
You Mean Rap Culture! didn't deserve him. Black Culture is what his mother installed in Pac =As also a revolutionary, For the Black Culture.
Seen Jada pinkett turn on him
Mutulu didn’t die until after packing ….but yeah that man dealt with a lot
"They wonder, if I'm hellbound.
Well, Hell can't be worse than this, 'cause I'm in Hell now"' -Tupac
That line went over many people heads even mine until I heard it a few more times I was like damn he’s really in pain sad
You can't be serious lol taking advance from a actor 😂
@@tedgraham6548it's always one of you guys 😔
only fear of death 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@AlTrey1993how did this go over people heads ???? This line as simple as it gets 😂 hell bound, I’m in hell now 😂☠️
How do you do all this research and put together a decent video but still get things wrong. All Eyez On Me was his 4th album. Me Against The World was the album that Stretch was removed from. At Quad, they were not outnumbered. There was 2 gunmen. 2PAC was with Stretch, Zayde and Nichols. Lastly the song is So Many Tears not Many Tears. And please stop using A.I. to narrate.
Thabk yiu for tekoing dis dummm azzz trap.lore UA-camrs offf
This got me too and switched off at that point as how much more of the video is just poor research. Videos just made to maximise ad revenue for the creator sadly
Facts
That means he’s in Ukraine or some weird third world country and knows his voice would make us not watch the video.
All eyes on me was the 5th album dude.
Lesson of the day: Loyalty is a myth. TRUST NO ONE!
It damn sure feels that way
He trusted the Outlawz.
Specially for those who are in the game.
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And i believe Stretch was trying to holla at one of Pac girls while he was locked up. And shorty told Pac about dude in a letter. So he realized he couldn't trust this dude.
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Man look PAC had the heart of a PANTHER a lot of you don’t know nor understand the blood that ran in his vains PAC didn’t care about no girl let me te you this from somebody who has been in the streets for more time than I have been alive if we have beef and anybody is on the fence you automatically put him over on the other side because it can be the difference of life and death for you I’m never lost on the fact that most people on here are not Black American and definitely not in the streets so yall have no clue about us so I take what yall say with a grain of salt!
Yeah that would've made me look at dude another way, you know how many women in this world? Why try to talk to the one im smashing on? Especially during the fucked up times we in right now with this Shooting shit
@@thesupervisor3270she said it!!
As a huge 2pac fan I lost respect for stretch when I heard the tapes on arts of dialog and stretch was talking really disrespectful about 2pac and that robbery situation immediately I realize 2pac was right the whole time...dude betrayed 2pac in the worst way when he was part of that robbery and 2pac ex even said he tried to get with with her.
It was an interview in response to 2pac speaking in an unfavorable way toward him in a national magazine. Fair to take that into account before you judge...
Can't speak to the situation with the girl...but 2pac did the same thing with Faith? Was he justified because he was upset? If so, is it possible that Stretch was upset that 2pac spoke unfavorable about him in a national magazine and figured she was fair game the way 2pac figured Faith was?
Quad works just fine without the suggestion that Stretch was involved. Furthermore, Is there proof that he was involved? Or do we believe anything that further's the narrative that 2pac was a hero with evil villains?
@@erfbgu2643YES,THEY WAS BEEFING.
Realistically, we can't call what we do not know a fact. It could very well be that Pac made the accusations against stretch and then stretch's vibe interview was retaliatory because by that point, they were enemies and once Tupac spoke out against Big Stretch, many people turned their backs on stretch. Live Squad were from Queens, they were always gonna be down with NY and biggie. Stretch stayed in NY, Pac was repping the west by that point. Stretch was always gonna stay loyal to NY and live squad over Pac. Especially after accusations like that. If there's anything that I would speculate to be a conspiracy that was true, it'd be that Pac had Stretch put down from Dannemora Max.
The crazy thing is that Stretch beeing involved is likely what led Tupac thinking Biggie was involved as well. Finding out a homeboy was involved would make anyone paranoid to the point of thinking everyone could be in on it.
Stretch hollered at Pacs girl too. Big part as well.
And Stretch went into Pac's apartment in NYC while PAC was locked up and took some of his jewelry
@@sleepysoundzzz403 exactly. I can’t remember if it was the vibe or somewhere where pac said that he gave stretch his stained pants with his gf keys during quad incident then later it got broken into with the keys or something. Also on top of that he told Jimmy that pac “clapped. himself at quad” like who tells the enemy that happened to your best friend then tells the biggie and the vibe magazine smh.
@@sleepysoundzzz403 facts there’s a whole list of dirt stretch did to pac smh it’s nuts don’t even know the half
I wouldn't have been in attendance either
No he set him up at that shooting in new york
shit like this is why I don't fuck with Ed Lover he wasn't saying this shit when he was alive.
You crazy and Ed pulled up on PAC and death row and barked on PAC.
In Suge's face💯@@user-jh6kl8jq8l
How do you know? Did you hang out with Ed Lover?
@@user-jh6kl8jq8lwhen where how u know
@@user-jh6kl8jq8lHE WOULD’NT DARE PULL ON ON NO GANG MEMBERS FROM LA
Es Lover sounds dumb talking about he still shoulda showed up to the funeral and paid respect for somebody he felt helped him get set up to die!
What you said!!! 👏🏿👏🏿
All them East Coast Ninjas didn't like Pac. They all were Jealous of him. All was quiet when Pac was alive now they all got something to say now he's gone. Even Snoop dogg bitch ass talking shit.
on me I said the same they had me and Pac fu up and I’ve net met pac that just made me mad hearing that shit 😂
He actually doesn’t sound dumb if Tupac actually knew the truth of who actually set him up and he was just being paranoid so he could’ve just did some type of gesture like flowers or something for the funeral.
@ If he had lost respect for the man, there isn’t supposed to be any gesture!!!!! The gesture was not speaking ill of him after his passing!
I don’t know why it bothers me when there’s a white narrator talking about black situations 😳
It's an AI white boy, lol.
@@fauxpinkytooThat makes it worse
@@fauxpinkytooThey could've programmed the ai to sound a bit black
You know these white folks be obsessed
Facts it bothers me too no lie
PAC couldn’t trust anyone sadly.
Cauz he did alota dirt himself.
Deep, deep, DEEP down inside.....dude was a CORNBALL.
Yeh so many fake friends biggie puffy stretch snoop 😅😅😅
@@shannawaller He trusted the Outlawz.
@@missshannon9790 thanks for your expert take, Mrs Waller from probably Boise Idaho or some shît. So much credibility
Once stretch started relaying messages from jimmy henchman to pac it was betrayal I understand why pac was felling like that
Just like Napoleon, you totally take it out of context. That message wasn't for Pac. That message was for Live Squad/Young Guns. All you seem to ignore that Nickles caught a bullet too and there was a rumor out that the YG was gonna retaliate against Jimmy.
That's why Jimmy called Stretch's mother house (that in itself was a warning) and told Stretch that he didn't have anything to do with it, BUT if THEY wanted a war, they better get their money right.
Stretch let Pac know what was going on. That message wasn't even for Pac. Y'all act like Pac was about to start hunting down Jimmy and Jimmy was scared of him.
You can’t tell someone whose been shot how to feel.
Also Stretch was moving wild. Pac house got broken in to, and they said stretch had the key, and his girl wrote him saying he was trying to get at her. Don’t get me wrong stretch was a talent, but he was moving wild running with the folks who shot pac
A guy that says he was one of them that night...said he was in on it ...his job was to make sure Pac came to the studio...and was paid a 8th of a brick...and Pac said all day that day he kept reminding Pac about the studio session
Who else is still banging "Under Pressure" in 2024?
Me ❤
Vol 1 is tied with me against the world in my book. Just as many bangers
@RedceLL1978 I slightly disagree. I could make the argument that Me against the world was a complete album with no skipping on the CD. Thug Life had a few songs I skipped over simply because Pac wasn't on all of them and the other rappers just weren't up to par.
@@princeda8thseed to each their own, I just found that there was as many good songs on each, i liked em both greatly. Vol 1 had under pressure, str8 ballin, bury me a g, how long will they mourn me, pour out a little liquor, don't get it twisted, cradle to the grave, i mean just so many killer songs. I'm not sure what you mean though, there was only 2 songs that didn't have pac and even those were bangers as well
Ed lover ctfu... Talking about he could have came to the funeral but he couldn't visit pac because he didn't have an ID.. plus listen to the energy in stretch's voice when he's being interviewed sound like he just down talking his so-called best friend and talking about Jimmy said get your money right before you go to war, now which would you believe? Don't be a dummy
Stfup pac knew who did it he couldn’t fuck with the people that did it and he went at big when he damn well no who step to him Tupac was nothing but an overrated actor 😂
I feel you. Ed never been a lover is full of bs. Why he didn't get on biggie for not attending his funeral
I totally agree
The energy in his voice? Your umb a$$ probably barely finished high school, but now you are an expert on voices.
Ed was on stage with Diddy and Big dick riding when Diddy was talking shit about the West
It's been 30 years this is the first time I've seen this 9:03 2Pac was a person who cared about folks, and in return, was the betrayal
you sound ignorant. stretch was hanging with the guys who killed pac. strectch was trying to sleep with tupacs girl friend
Kindness is weakness. Always
He was extremely selfish and insecure. When someone has problems with almost everyone they've had problems with, maybe it's that person's fault. He expected Stretch to sacrifice himself for Pacs jewelry, because Pac was short. Pac fans are so disturbed and you'll assume I'm a hater because I are flaws in his character. I like some of his music but as with all people, he was very flawed. He got fame and thought that lady couldn't refuse him, he got the same treatment in prison though.
Well that may be so but onlh because of how it is an insane to think anybody is without SOME flaw or another fwiw because of even just having at least something a bit of a minor nuiscance they only human after all so Imean it is just to be expected fwiw
Pac was a sucka. Rest in Peace but bra did a lot of sucka shit
Pac definitely wasn't attending Stretch funeral as he believed Stretch had betrayed him. Unfortunately,
Me knowing Pac" I was able to hear and witness in real time the treachery and compliscent behavior of Stretch after Pac died. If Stretch was Pac man, then why dud Black Lindsey give Pac the firearm to take to Quad Studios that night. Why didn't Stretch jump into the line of fire. Instead Stretch, let Pac be in the line of fire and Stretch coward like a hit dog hollering. The whole thing was a set up. Although ,ALLEGED I BELIEVE BY PUFF, HENCHMAN, JACK, TUT, AND BIGGIE " WHO KNEW AFTER THE FACT".
Also he was sending messages from henchmen after shooting.
I don’t think biggie had anything to do with it I think diddy saw biggie as the escape route knowing he was gonna take out biggie it’d be easier to setup back get at biggie and everyone blames the east and west coast instead of it blowing back on him
@joelewis8440 I believe that Biggie knew after the fact. But, chose to stay out the way. All Pac wanted was Biggie to say, " he knew after the fact and confirmed what pac already knew." Im not sure why Biggie chose not to do so. But, back then, Jack " was known as a hanger on of celebrities and con artist allegedly. I was once with Pac and Jack as we were headed to Madonna house. Pac and Lindsey smoked, drank Hennessey, and played Spice 1. Jack said absolutely nothing and just drove. So, I never took Jack as the Tuff Street nicca, he claims to be. Henchman was known not to be played with.
He did it'll come out soon when somebody gets the interview with the real shooter
@@Ms.Ashley-Matthews415 who'sBlack Lindsey and do you know anything about Zayd and Nichols and their relation to Pac? And whatever happened to them?
Man you figured out about 50 different ways to tell one story in one video ....thats actually rather fucking impressive 😅😅😅
😂😂😂😂 Hilarious
Ed lover wanna keep it all friends but dude secretly was jealous of Tupac it is what it is and it began to show itself. The female told us stretch tried to knock her while Pac was in prison. Stretch got murdered because he was grimey
PAC- I guess his new friends wanted him dead
Nope, he was paranoid and had emotional issues as do his fans. Pac was more of a gay ballerina than a gangster. I like some of his music but he was extremely unloyal and acted like a victim constantly, he couldn't keep a real friend and expected people to crash out for him. Anyone who grew up listening to Pac and still thinks he's perfect is a grade A moron.
@@user-wb7nv9ht1gonly a true goofy talks like this without any real credibility to back it up pac was never a gangsta and taking ballet class as a kid don’t make you a ballerina 😂 yall be saying anything.
@@Asvpsupreme....so for clarification if a guy is a ballerina that automatically makes them gay
@ clarification will tell you that pac was neither 😂 the most insecure dudes be saying this bs
@Asvpsupreme after the lies ypu talk.. may the reaper tie your fake tounge.. & binding your paving the hate towards a person you've never met! ##thetruthaintinyou #andthatorder Simpleton 👂🏾👀
@10:35 Stretch lied on a majority of that. He defintiely did NOT see Pac *AFTER* the Quad shooting 😂. (I didn't realize all these years he actually said that on record.) 2Pac made bail via Death Row on October 12th 1995, Stretch's death on November 30th. There is NO confirmation of Stretch coming into contact with Death Row or Pac during that 50 day window. He is frontin' big time in that interview.
Typical new york shit
Tupac didn't get locked up right away. He was healing up at jasmine guys house for a month or 2 before going to prison. Stretch came there to visit him with a message from Jimmy.
And yes there is confirmation.
great catch. envy was in stretch when his mother was referencing him, sound more like Shes speaking about pac
True fact Pac did shoot himself with his own gun in the struggle to try and get it out
What some people don't understand about that situation ...is that Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack knew each other...both Haitian and from Brooklyn ...both from Brooklyn...they were both into promoting and management in NYC..a executive producer on albums by major label artists and basically a silent partner in a popular nightclub...no talk of how Pac and Jimmy Henchman were arguing on the phone because Pac was late to that infamous studio session because he did a freestyle for a Ron G mixtape for cash money...instead of some up front and some later...with Jimmy Henchmen...the Bad Boy offices was down the street from Quad Studios ...they were on Arista...Diddy and Biggie were scared of that dude...Live Squad took that heat and there was a greenlight on Randy " Stretch " Walker ( RIP) too...but one of his peoples was the notorious E Money Bags( RIP)...they had to catch him alone...being tall...has nothing to do with guns ...people get into hero worship with Pac ( RIP) but he was not a perfect angel...he could be hot headed and a loud mouth who reacted without thinking sometimes!
Pac had a gun but he's blaming Stretch as if homeboy had $30,000 worth of jewelry on
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Right how nobody speaks on this is crazy
Hush ho
Hush ho
Yeah no one is going tower over a gun unless its to defend their children.
RIP Tupac Shakur
They should of mentioned “Holla At Me”
Exactly!!!
Stretch could have been somebody in life if he had stayed loyal. Why is ED mad at Pac for not attending the funeral but doesn't say anything about Biggie not attending as well.
Stretch and Pac was wayyy Closer than Stretch and BIG. Pac is the Godfather to Stretch’s daughter .
@airpegasus5167 that's my point, he should have been more loyal to Pac.
@suntzuusuntzuu7058 how when pac called him out in the interview about him getting robbed, and basically blamed him for not swinging on mofos with guns....foh
Ed lover is a lame
He can only go off of what he knows... but the evil that men do will always remain!
Nah 2 pac stans who weren't even teens or alive when he was are lames. Go buy another 2 pac t shirt.
@@sjb3240 you sound bitter that people like Pac
@@sjb3240 Ok, he’s a buster.
A mark.
Can u add that up?
Thank you
U on 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 with this one bruh 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Because he was grimmy no one had respect for him duhhhh stretch was jealous of PAC Ed shut up you don't know what you talking about
Also he just wanted you too follow the damn train!
Damn shame how it all ended. Arguably one of the best duos in rap & hip hop period.
Stretch's verse on Pain was legendary! I still get goosebumps listening to it 30 years later. One of the rare rappers to hold his own on a track with Pac. You can actually argue who had the best verse
"TRUST NO ONE. " -T.A.S.
It aint serious. Unless you living a life of crime
You don’t know what you talking about and neither does the guy above you so none of you should even have anything to say about Black people or Black culture PAC was a BLACK PANTHER AND YALL WILL TALK CRAZY ABOUT HE WASNT A GANGSTER HE WAS GREATER THAN ANY GANGSTER COULD EVER BE!
@@knutt81 Tupac trusted The Outlawz.
Against all odds explains it all.
Yes PAC killed they ass on this one
you dont have to visit him but you could have wrote him telling him the reason why you cant visit, yea pac is smart he knew the accessories
Sad part is week before he was in Atlanta with tha fam on thanksgiving then this happened
He was living it Atlanta and Jack followed him there to keep checking on him
Stretch's murder and nobody attending his funeral was his karma for how he did Tupac.
@@jamalsoward8404 I feel like passing on the same day as quad the year after was direct karma if anything. That’s eerie
I want BLACK AMERICANS to peep something.
2PAC was a BLACK AMERICAN
STRETCH Jamaican
JACK HATIAN
JIMMY HATIAN
BIGGIE JAMAICAN
Moral of the story. LEAVE THEM PPL ALONE!!!
Same way the do us going against us in politics we are expendable to them in streets and otherwise.
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@TAWS-wq3hx i had a life long "friend" 25 years I overlooked a lot of things. That Bahamian dude opened my eyes with his hate envy and betrayal. They don't wanna eat with us they want to replace us. No amount of friend ship can ever gain they loyalty. I got a zero tether policy now
And yet BLACK AMERICANS actually KILLED Tupac 🤣
No one looks at Big the way you are trying to portray him so maybe keep your mouth closed making 🤡 a$$ conjectures. And I’m a non-Caribbean. Stop making sweeping generalizations. Yall 🥷s lazy with the thinking these days. Just say anything
Yall just say any nonsense. No one viewed Biggie like that
He could have wrote him. He knew him before biggie. Big and him was nobody yet and broke. Pac was z actor ,hip hop artists blooming
Stretch was playing the fence, which is a dangerous game.
Tupac was not a real Rider.. he wanted someone to protect him real gangsters don't need no protection like King von crazy story.
Pac had Stretch deleted on the one year anniversary of quad.
ed lover and funk flex were both making fun of pac when he was locked up.
Exactly punks master flex was talking a whole of smacks when pac was locked & ed was no different..
Ed love of who ever gives a shit is his name is fake as hell he didn't like PAC
Pacs best tracks featured Stretch, least in my opinion, pain and under pressure
9:42 wrong!!!!!! All Eyez On Me was his 4th album.
His albums are:
1. 2Pacalypse Now
2. Strictly 4 My Nxxxxx
3. Me Against The World
4. All Eyez On Me
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The Thug Life album was a group album.
They had no ID and no hands to write letters man.
“ I pray to god before I go sleep thanking god … “ stretch RIP
- god bless the dead -2pac
You don’t need ID to visit someone in the hospital maybe in jail or prison…
Street beef did him... nothing music or 2Pac related
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Dude I love how you changed flagged words. 👍🏽
My nigga shot up and locked up no I.d or not I’m up there with everybody else let him know I’m outside love you baby we gone work it out ima get that I.d we gone talk… been there done that. I don’t understand how u not go see yall dog esp if he think im playing him
Stretch had 11 months to get that sorted out and see him.
Great point!!
Zesty AF
@@blameks9136 your thought process is zesty
The Mazda MVP that was the bomb back in the day my friend had one with 312 in there subwoofers I remember you used play KRS-One and 2 Live Crew
14:32 Ed Liver still trying to run that play ….niggaz with felonies go to the jails all the time …foh
This is an accurate documentary good job
All eyes on me was the 5th album, Google don't mention his thugg life album. Real fans know this.
Thug Life is not a Pac solo project.
@@johnstarks2537 The "ThugLife" album is similar to the "Still I Rise" album. They were both group albums, the 1st one with ThugLife, the 2nd one with the Outlawz .
That would be like saying D12's album, "Devil's Night" was an Eminem album.
Stretch was a clown and was never Pac real friend. He claimed he was Pac muscle, but yet wasn't carrying the night pC got hit. It was Black Lindsey who gave Pac the firearm to go to Quad Studios that night. Stretch said, he had everything covered, so Lindsey stayed behind. So, if you're supposed to be the muscle, why was Pac hit and why Stretch didn't protect his man.
How do you take $$$ from the devil? Not a real mofo. Now years later diddy done
Pac knew what was up.
All Eyez on Me had an obvious diss to Stretch on the song Holla at Me.. Which came out after Stretch was dead..
Great channel. Made me sub
Ed lover don’t get it and most who have never been shot really have no clue on how the paranoia kick in and you don’t trust nobody man look I got hit and you don’t know who you could trust and if somebody that is close to you is on the fence you out him over there because that can cause you your life!
biggie is dead and look at puffy now karma is a mfer fr fr every dog has a day.
They didn’t expect pac to fight back
My boy PAC was ready to fight
Stretch can rap good him and tupac in a feature was 🔥🔥🔥
Drake can rap good too but he's still a fkn lame
It is so funny to me years later you have haters out here Hatin on 2pac say he was a Hollywood Actor he was pretending to be hard WTF 🤦. Name one Hollywood actor that got shot 9 times other then 50 cent I'm going to say it now Tupac was a icon Tupac with 25 years old when he died imagine if he would have got to finish what he started.
Thank you
Ed Lover doesnt care if Big went to the funeral.. only 2Pac.. smh gtfoh
Pac was a Street dude who continously getting caught up in street affairs and he wasn't built like that or knew the choice of streets
Pac wasn't even a street dude til he started rapping. I love his music and message but you right, 2pac should've never acted gangsta
He wasnt no street dude
@@twizzy585otsfool was a dancer
@@blameks9136 yea cause non gangsters shoot two cops and throw middle fingers to reporters while shot up on a stretch no wait soft guys confronted nas in new and his people in New York guns drawn if pac ain’t gangster most rappers now ain’t either
Pick a side? If you got shot up n ur closest homies ain't do shit u gonna feel sum kinda way regardless. You don't have to go n physically see sum1 in prison u can call? U can write u can do alot things. 1 thing u don't do is keep hanging out with the person you feel had set u up n then make a song " who shot ya" 2pac never jumped to conclusions he made sure he had all the evidence before going with his gut feeling. If stretch was a real homie he would of done everything and anything to show Pac he had nothing to do with Quad but he didn't. So it is wat it is 2pac was to loyal for these fools.
Stretch told Dexter Issac where pac was gonna be
For a half a big
I don’t think anyone outside of Puff and Henchman knew besides the gunmen.
Because he was a snake🤷🏿♂️
There way more to this story. Pac was talking crazy to Henchmen so Henchmen set up a studio session for Pac to pull up to. The plan was for Pac to get disciplined. It just went the way it because PAC was had his gun on him and was gonna use it (as he should). Stretch and them wasn’t strapped at all and had guns pointed at them. And the dudes that did it was order to go at Pac and Pac only. After that, stretch was gonna retaliate then Jimmy called his mother crib threatening and saying for them to get the money up if you want to go to war. Stretch told pac about it. Where stretch and pac fell out at is that he wanted stretch to pick a side with him or biggie kuz he was still hanging with him lik they all was when they was cool. Stretch wasn’t jacking it because pac knew who really did that and knew big had absolutely nothing to do with it which was true.
@@princejustin5465that’s not even really the story. Pac never talked crazy or mouthed all to Jimmy that’s a lie. He had an interview where he insulted Haitian Jack and ruined a contract with him and Madonna. Jimmy set up pac on behalf of Jack (even Jack said this himself). As far as stretch, stretch drove pac to quad and before they went in stretch himself said that it was suspect before going in. The worst part of it all Jimmy in a fab five interview said that stretch told him that pac boomed. Himself at quad. After that he told biggie and then the vibe that same rumor. Smh
@@princejustin5465there’s more.. while pac was on the stretcher he gave stretch his pants that had his gf keys in it during quad then not that long after his gf place gets broken into with the key. Stretch also tried to holla at his girl behind his back while he was at jail. Stretch was a shady character. Stretch wasn’t going to retaliate for pac he was heated about Freddie nickels because nickols was yg and got injured that night at quad. Jimmy was worried that he was going to get back but stretch NEVER did.
@ he was talking on Jack and people around Jack including Henchmen wanted to do something but Jack was telling dudes to let it be but when Jimmy and pac was arguing, it was over wit. During the argument over the phone, pac thru the Frank (smd) at him which in if you from the towns(NY) you better be ready to go all out over those words. This came from stretch brother mouth. Jimmy set up the session for pac to pull up. Pac thought he was going to the Stu to go record and get paid kuz pac wasn’t getting money like that so he was willing to do features, tv, movies etc just to get a bag. The plan was just to put belt to ass but Yk pac wasn’t going down like that so the end up shooting him. Pac still trynna fight niggas off and also end up popping himself in the groin
@ pac did accidentally shot himself kuz they was fighting over the gun. Ngl pac tuff as hell for that. To be shot end you still trynna fight to get the one up on them. I respect that.
If you listen to the song hit em up you can hear a car screeching and crashing at the very beginning of the song
Wow
In hit em up the beginning he says i ain't got no friends
Stretch dying has nothing to do with tupac
Part of PAC’s mind was his own enemy. I can’t imagine the anxiety Pac went through. Always wondered how PAC would have been had he been himself and not the persona.
He was himself they triggered his other side we can be good till someone betrays us
@@ESESUPNEXTexactly bro it’s up to 2-3 sides to a person maybe more but those sides take for things to happen to bring them out
@ 💯 ppl that think otherwise never been through 💩
@@ESESUPNEXT or haven’t been through enough 💩 straight up word from the wise
@@charlesezrarevmongoosecane5097 there was no persona idk what yall get that bs from
These NY weirdos caping for eachother lol. I believe pac
A smaller word is that Henchman had a friend in the Mafia and they were extorting Puff..i believe the Columbo fam..Make of that what u will
Pac knew who shot him didnt do anything to that person but went off on everyone else. Embarrassing behavior
He was a punk. Big mouth rambling on punk.
What’s crazy is he went off on his friends at that. Getting shot will fuck you up mentally. But still, was some coward shit go after his friends, knowing the whole time who shot him. God rest all 3 of those brotha’s souls.
The only “wrapper”at stretch funeral was the wooden tuxedo they buried him in
1 year to the day
Jeremiah 17:5: "This is what the Lord says: 'Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who draws strength from mere flesh and whose heart turns away from the Lord.
Puff an jimmy lined up pac
I believe that why big died so quick after pac. I think big found out puff was involved in that and that's why big was trying to distance himself from puff. They weren't hanging around in the last months of bigs life. thats why puff was trying like hell to get a answer from big if he was going to the Quincy jones party. and puff used d roc to get him to the party and they killed big.
I dont know if anyone knows but big was in south central paying off the crips for security they had done for him. that one of them crips asked big "what about that cash for pac?" Big said I have nothing to do with that, thats your beef isn't it? Than that crip said what's the difference? it got done didn't it? Big said I never paid or said I would pay to do anything to pac. again thats you and your set. So I believe that little altercation with that crip being greedy exposed to big what really happened. that made puff look suspect cuz big never dealt with the crips it was always puff. So I think the rips told puff that big knows. so if big was able to get home he would have opened a can of worms that evidently puff would have to watch his back because everyone would have been gunnin for puff. I think big would have used that to distance himself and to get puff taken care of without him having to do shit.
How you know that ?
@ I have magazines bro. I collected every single mag during that time. The source, murderdog, xxl, vanity fair, and the Quincy jones mag vibe. Even a couple issues in playboy where some questions were asked to the guest about certain times in music industry
Nope Jimmy set 2pac up
@ most of those photos that are shown these days with supposedly big wearing pacs jewelry? Those is fake my man. No cap. I have most of those photos in these magazines and they show no jewelry if the kind. The only major piece that big had on him that was jewelry…. The Jesus piece. That’s it and he had a pinky ring also that he hardly wore. The only time I saw that worn was when he taking that photo shot by the fireplace and he had a cain. That’s it. And puff daddy is responsible for both. I’m not saying that clears suge and death row but puff may have had direct responsibility for pac. And for big he just did death row and their associates a favor by bringing big out here to get hit.
it dont take that long to get an ID he was locked up
Also explain the allegation from pac girl stretch was tryna holla at her
The Art of Dialog MESSY. It's years later and you being MESSY., both Pac and Stretch are not here to defend themselves. Stretch has a child.
People now always trying to keep a feed. It's years later dude. MESSY
It's funny ASL ngl cause you know he doing that shit on purpose 😂
@@cyndiprince2947 public information can’t blame the interviewer for saying the truth
They no different from vlad
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God bless🕊️💜🕊️
'God Rest his soul' Only 4 Bigg, huh?!
He was the only one that was innocent
People need to understand Pac got almost killed, he was under a lot stress, paranoid, and didn´t know who to trust anymore. At that stage everybody begins to look suspicious to you. I'm not saying he was right or wrong--that ain't for me to judge--I'm simply sharing different perspective.
Tupac said he froze while everyone dropped and he wonders why they came straight for him 😂 only one standing there
Dude….plus they know you’re the one with the money and jewelry…you’re Tupac……
@@Smokinfreelythey also knew he was the only one strapped
@@Switchesnbizness that wasn’t the reason they came for him keep it real 😂 they was THERE FOR HIM. Pac had all that jewelry and mind you stretch was the only one who wasn’t jacked
Naw they was definitely there for him. 2pac liked running his mouth about Haitian Jack and Jimmy Henchmen got his set up for it
@ oh true ..I’m just clowning the thought process that it was everyone else besides the guy who got on tv and in court said one of the biggest street guys was a rapist was confused he almost got killed in that guys same city …also there’s stories of him not paying any of the street dudes in nyc protecting him but going jewelry shopping around them ,when the stories of how he was moving in nyc add up its like how does no one else see this .idk if a nyc dude like mike Tyson tells me to not hang w some dudes cuz they are killers I may could listen to mike idk that’s just me .id never go to a city I moved away from at 9 and act like I was still tapped in and knew what was what
Big Stretch’ ❤️✌️
R.I.P
if they knew his was coming and let them boys do anything it means its a set up
Stop with the misinformation you tether, I bet you don’t even like American black peoples, but you guys sure love to make money off us . Talk about your artist or actors
If u from da streets u should know dat da streets talk and words fly around quick
Tupac wylding thinking his boy was supposed to grab someone with his gun out. They had the drop on them not the other way around. The thing I don’t understand is how Tupac and them didn’t notice dudes in the lobby looking suspicious.
2pac was a fkn fool. I love his music but he always let his sensitive ass emotions get in the way and that's what got him killed. Stretch even said it seemed shady when they pulled up. 2pac thought he was a super thug but was in way over his head
That part ❗️❗️
Pac is a sucka for all this!!!! He knew where that hit came from.
Pan African goofy You a sucka
“Switched sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead · Probably be murdered for the shit that I said.”
big stretch got stretched.
Stretch was paid an 8th to make sure Pac made it to the studio.
Whatever happened its a f---ed up situation 3 close friends are dead over pety shit
Was nuthin petty about Stretch or Biggie, they both made mistakes and then paid for it
@TAWS-wq3hx 30 years ago hommie you must was cool with them guys it is petty and unfortunate when 3 friends dead especially when we on social media going by he say she say dead men don't talk we don't know what the hell happened
@@Aintthatsum1983 no I'm not cool when shady behavior takes place. Like I said when you make mistakes your bound to pay for it. A good chunk of what Stretch said in his response was bogus anyway. Lies. Biggie was no saint either. His mistake was coming out to L.A thinking the smoke cleared......
" Pac was never set up by stretch let it rest " - Nas death row east
Stretch didn't set up Tupac. Zayd cleared that up.
Why didnt Stretch visit Tupac in Jail and why was he trying to say Tupac shot himself?? Why was Stretch delivering messages from the guy that had Tupac shot to him??
Bullshit
@@tj1338 Go listen to Zayd who was there, with Pac. If that's the case, Biggie was in on it also.
@@TheSpinnerRack zayd was defending his friend and didn’t seen how shady stretch was that’s all. I’m not saying stretch was involved but he was extremely suspect and he has a whole list of reasons why. I can tell you if you’d like 😂
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