7:30 In Old Finnish this would have been more easier to understand as the form "taloon" would have been "talohon". In modern Finnish that h between the vowels has disappeared. "mi-hin" -> Old Finnish "talo-hon" > modern Finnish "taloon" "mi-hin" -> Old Finnish "metsä-hän" > modern Finnish "metsään" "mi-hin" -> Old Finnish "kaupunki-hin" > modern Finnish "kaupunkiin"
Great progress in grasping some of the structures of Finnish sentence-building. You obviously found the key to the fast lane - one listens closely and then takes the hints and uses them oneself. Starting from the easiest level one can think about the English pre-positions 'on' and 'in' - then turn to the post-positions of Finnish. There certainly is a very large similarity in thinking. in the bar - baarissa - Janne istuu baarissa ja odottaa meitä. (Missä Janne on?) in the sea - meressä - valitettavasti meressä on paljon muovia nykyään (Missä muovia ei pitäisi olla?) in the forest - metsässä - tässä metsässä on eniten puolukoita lokakuussa (Tiedätkö missä voin poimia paljon puolukoita?) in the city-center - keskustassa - oletko jo käynyt Tapiolan keskustassa ostoksilla? (Missä voi kätevästi tehdä ostoksia Espoossa?) on the lawn - ruohikolla - meidän Hessu-koira saa aina leikkiä ruohikolla (Saako ulkoiluttaa koiraa teidän talon rouhikolla?) on the table - pöydällä - kahvikupit ovat jo pöydällä, mutta tuopa pullat myös! (Onko pöydällä jo kaikki?) on the roof - katolla - pieni kissa istui kauan katolla, koska se pelkää koiria ja lapsia (Miksi kissa on katolla, eikä keittiössä, nythän on jo aika syödä?) on the ice - jäällä - jäällä voi kalastaa joskus maaliskuussakin (Voiko tosiaan kalastaa järvellä ympäri vuoden?) Learning whole sentences, while concentrating on just one factor, helps a lot. Later on, one can focus on an other aspect. Without noticing one learns very easily, but it is useful to do as you do, sometimes to give your whole attention to some grammar or a difference between your own language and your target language. Keep it up, and don't be shy, show your interest. You will thrive! Everybody makes mistakes, also natives. It is not that important.
Kiva! I would say finnish is veryyy difficult to learn because it consists of many rules and they have the kirjakieli and pukekieli words but you made it easier for us to understand some of the basic questions. I’m studying finnish for 5months now and I hope I could be as fluent as you, thank you so much for this very useful video 😊 Kiitos!
Yes, it is very hard! I was trying to learn using Duolingo for 2.5 years and I didn't really learn much because you don't learn any rules, the lessons are repetative and they don't focus much on the Finnish language on the app. I have been studying here in Finland for 4 or 5 months and I would recommend going to the Helsingin Seuden Yliopisto and doing their intensive courses, they last just 3 weeks and you can learn a lot very fast!
@@Finnago94really? That’s good to know but first I have to pass the interview and language test so I can finally go to finland and will definitely try that. Thank you for the recommendation!
I cannot understand the obsession with the difference between kirjakieli and puhekieli, because every language has those differences. In Finnish the differences are small, not many, and rather regular. Often those belong to the first things one learns about in a course or a book. On the contrary, it is easy to transition from kirjakieli to sensible puhekieli, as soon as you have the opportunity to speak with Finns - they have all learned kirjakieli in their excellent schools. Their teachers speak good Finnish, YLE uutiset and general non fiction is produced in good Finnish. Official information is in good Finnish. If you live for a long time in one place and work with the same team, you'll easily pick up the local puhekieli variants. No intelligent person starts with learning slang, which may not have written versions at all, and is always limited in generation and place. That is kind of the point of slang. When we learn English we start from Oxford&Cambridge versions, not from some pidgin or rap-slang - because learning proper English first, is the efficient way to do it. You might want a good-paying job or study something. Then you get nowhere with slang or pidgin or an extreme dialect - and also: people might not easily understand you, as soon as you travel 20 miles, when you also add your foreign accent.
Thank you! Yeah in some ways I'm doing it to re-enforce my own knowledge, but also I have met a lot of people who are a lot better at Finnish than me who never learnt the rules of the language, so they make simple mistakes and don't really know why. For example, some people I have met who speak very good Finnish might say "Minä tulin Suomesa". But thank you, I will try to make more like this soon :)
@@Finnago94 Yes, I think when it comes to languages, sometimes "it is what it is" and you just have to accept it. But then there are rules that can be learnt - and that is much less frustrating, if you ask me, haha. Analytic brains like to know the reason for everything. ☺ I will certainly check your videos out as they are helpful (I am a complete beginner in Finnish and my English shall be also upgraded, so its basically 2in1 for me, thanks).
For native English language people just beginning to learn Finnish, your explanation was VERY helpful. Well done!! I look forward to looking at your other video's now as this is the first. I hope the clarity of explanation is the same for all. Thank you!!
Ammendment* - I forgot to mention that when answering a question, if the location ends in an -e, then the response would be to double the e, then add seen/sta/ssa. Examples: I am going into the airplane/ Minä menen lentokoneeseen. Lentokone -> Lentokoneeseen. I am in an airplane/ Minä olen lentokoneessa. Lentokone -> Lentokoneessa. I came from the airplane/ Minä tulin lentokoneesta. Lentokone -> Lentokoneesta.
Your understanding of Finnish language is on next level! This video will be very helpful for anyone trying to learn Finnish.
Thank you!
Mistä? Missä? Mihin? Miltä? Millä? Mille?Hyvin selitetty,näin natiivina voin todeta.Harjoitus tekee mestarin.😊
Kiitos sinulle! Opiskelen vielä, pikku hiljaa 😅
7:30 In Old Finnish this would have been more easier to understand as the form "taloon" would have been "talohon". In modern Finnish that h between the vowels has disappeared.
"mi-hin" -> Old Finnish "talo-hon" > modern Finnish "taloon"
"mi-hin" -> Old Finnish "metsä-hän" > modern Finnish "metsään"
"mi-hin" -> Old Finnish "kaupunki-hin" > modern Finnish "kaupunkiin"
Wow this makes it make so much more sense! Thank you 🙏
Great progress in grasping some of the structures of Finnish sentence-building.
You obviously found the key to the fast lane - one listens closely and then takes the hints and uses them oneself.
Starting from the easiest level one can think about the English pre-positions 'on' and 'in' - then turn to the post-positions of Finnish. There certainly is a very large similarity in thinking.
in the bar - baarissa - Janne istuu baarissa ja odottaa meitä. (Missä Janne on?)
in the sea - meressä - valitettavasti meressä on paljon muovia nykyään (Missä muovia ei pitäisi olla?)
in the forest - metsässä - tässä metsässä on eniten puolukoita lokakuussa (Tiedätkö missä voin poimia paljon puolukoita?)
in the city-center - keskustassa - oletko jo käynyt Tapiolan keskustassa ostoksilla? (Missä voi kätevästi tehdä ostoksia Espoossa?)
on the lawn - ruohikolla - meidän Hessu-koira saa aina leikkiä ruohikolla (Saako ulkoiluttaa koiraa teidän talon rouhikolla?)
on the table - pöydällä - kahvikupit ovat jo pöydällä, mutta tuopa pullat myös! (Onko pöydällä jo kaikki?)
on the roof - katolla - pieni kissa istui kauan katolla, koska se pelkää koiria ja lapsia (Miksi kissa on katolla, eikä keittiössä, nythän on jo aika syödä?)
on the ice - jäällä - jäällä voi kalastaa joskus maaliskuussakin (Voiko tosiaan kalastaa järvellä ympäri vuoden?)
Learning whole sentences, while concentrating on just one factor, helps a lot. Later on, one can focus on an other aspect. Without noticing one learns very easily, but it is useful to do as you do, sometimes to give your whole attention to some grammar or a difference between your own language and your target language.
Keep it up, and don't be shy, show your interest. You will thrive! Everybody makes mistakes, also natives. It is not that important.
Kiva! I would say finnish is veryyy difficult to learn because it consists of many rules and they have the kirjakieli and pukekieli words but you made it easier for us to understand some of the basic questions. I’m studying finnish for 5months now and I hope I could be as fluent as you, thank you so much for this very useful video 😊
Kiitos!
Yes, it is very hard! I was trying to learn using Duolingo for 2.5 years and I didn't really learn much because you don't learn any rules, the lessons are repetative and they don't focus much on the Finnish language on the app. I have been studying here in Finland for 4 or 5 months and I would recommend going to the Helsingin Seuden Yliopisto and doing their intensive courses, they last just 3 weeks and you can learn a lot very fast!
@@Finnago94really? That’s good to know but first I have to pass the interview and language test so I can finally go to finland and will definitely try that. Thank you for the recommendation!
I cannot understand the obsession with the difference between kirjakieli and puhekieli, because every language has those differences. In Finnish the differences are small, not many, and rather regular. Often those belong to the first things one learns about in a course or a book. On the contrary, it is easy to transition from kirjakieli to sensible puhekieli, as soon as you have the opportunity to speak with Finns - they have all learned kirjakieli in their excellent schools. Their teachers speak good Finnish, YLE uutiset and general non fiction is produced in good Finnish. Official information is in good Finnish. If you live for a long time in one place and work with the same team, you'll easily pick up the local puhekieli variants. No intelligent person starts with learning slang, which may not have written versions at all, and is always limited in generation and place. That is kind of the point of slang. When we learn English we start from Oxford&Cambridge versions, not from some pidgin or rap-slang - because learning proper English first, is the efficient way to do it. You might want a good-paying job or study something. Then you get nowhere with slang or pidgin or an extreme dialect - and also: people might not easily understand you, as soon as you travel 20 miles, when you also add your foreign accent.
I love learning from someone who is on the same language journey. ☺ Great video, opettaja.
Thank you! Yeah in some ways I'm doing it to re-enforce my own knowledge, but also I have met a lot of people who are a lot better at Finnish than me who never learnt the rules of the language, so they make simple mistakes and don't really know why. For example, some people I have met who speak very good Finnish might say "Minä tulin Suomesa". But thank you, I will try to make more like this soon :)
@@Finnago94 Yes, I think when it comes to languages, sometimes "it is what it is" and you just have to accept it. But then there are rules that can be learnt - and that is much less frustrating, if you ask me, haha. Analytic brains like to know the reason for everything. ☺ I will certainly check your videos out as they are helpful (I am a complete beginner in Finnish and my English shall be also upgraded, so its basically 2in1 for me, thanks).
For native English language people just beginning to learn Finnish, your explanation was VERY helpful. Well done!! I look forward to looking at your other video's now as this is the first. I hope the clarity of explanation is the same for all. Thank you!!
Tosi hyvä video! Minä jaoin tämän videon kanavallani yhteisölle.
No, kiitos sinulle ❤️
Ammendment* - I forgot to mention that when answering a question, if the location ends in an -e, then the response would be to double the e, then add seen/sta/ssa.
Examples:
I am going into the airplane/ Minä menen lentokoneeseen. Lentokone -> Lentokoneeseen.
I am in an airplane/ Minä olen lentokoneessa. Lentokone -> Lentokoneessa.
I came from the airplane/ Minä tulin lentokoneesta. Lentokone -> Lentokoneesta.