SADC meets in Zimbabwe to address DRC crisis
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- Zimbabwe is hosting a special SADC meeting today to address the ongoing violence in eastern DRC as the M23 rebels advance on Goma. The meeting aims to find solutions to the escalating crisis as tensions rise in the region. Political analyst Prof. Ibbo Mandaza speaks to Newzroom Afrika’s Michelle Craig about the situation.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.
I wish all these soldiers can come together and fight greedy Politicians instead of killing one another...🙏🙏
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They're doesn't have hurt to fight with M23
It's soldiers vs Rebels and why should Terrorist come together with soldiers
@Ndoba250 what are you saying brother?
@@thabitharampheri3218who are the terrorists?
Thank you Prof, at least someone in South Africa who make sense! Even Mbeki is fed by Kagame propaganda
The professor is a Zimbabwean-born
Useless African elders
just as he was explaining something critical, "can we talk about............" and diverts the whole issue. VERY GOOD JOURNALISM THERE
Thank you Professor. You really understand the situation...
He doesn’t understand anything. I was born, educated and grew up in Rwanda my dear and know Rwanda better than Prof. Mandaza, and you. Better to ask before you start talking nonsense! Leave Rwanda to us and take your DRC and South Africa to yourself.
Also, please know this. you don’t know Paul Kagame because he is not your President but is Rwandans we know him than anyonelese in this world and you know what, we love him and we are behind him in everything, “moindre eacarmouche” you will get Rwandans at your doors.
And he knows the story very well
Thanks to all south Africa
Paul Kagame has territorial ambition. He will not stop at DRC.
If you can not fix you own house you can not fix someone house
But u can try to help where u can
Its not true, some of the best builders have the worst houses. You can actually fix someone's house if that person has the will and resources.
Our problem is that we welcomed the Rwandans in 1994 when they were at war; they noticed that we have great wealth, they no longer want to return home to Rwanda, they have multiplied strategies to cut our country and keep the richest part, this is the cause of the conflict. In 22 years we gave everything to the Rwandans, but they are not satisfied, they now want to take over the country
@@kinshasium You don't have to be perfect to help a neighbour, else no one can reach perfection. The EU seems to be supporting Kagame who in turn supply M23 to loot DRC wealth for himself.Kagame is greedy hence he does not abandon power.
Kagame caused the genocide in Rwanda after shooting down the then hutu Presidents plane and killing both Rwandan and burundian Presidents; he then put it all on the back of the hutu bantu people of Rwanda, since then he's been killing hutu civilians like no mans business, causing 8 million deaths in Congo, killing UN peacekeepers, looting congo minerals, causing a humanitarian catastrophe in the region; threatening the whole SADC; He even once threatened the life of the then Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete. Even Burundi has once complained that he was supporting rebels and harbouring coup plotters that wanted to topple the then Burndian President. As if thats not enough his police even once killed ethnic tutsi nyamulenges in the refugee camp in Rwanda, the group he claims to protect. What kind of human is he that he evades the international systems and get away with all that. An international tribunal has to be set up to look into these crimes
Why they don't tell the world what M23 wants and for who.
Wants Drc to benefit from minerals not foreigners
@@tiktokafrica370 They Want to live with full rights like any other citizens! That is what they said!
@@KweliKwetu That is a lie. Everyone in Congo has the same rights. This rethoric has been debunked.
What does those thousands of refugees from cong in camps here in Rwanda doing think before talking 😢@@othyvitswamba1111
@@tiktokafrica370So why killing innocent if it what they want
DRC is harboring genocidal militia that seek to overthrow the government in Rwanda -- Rwanda has a legitimate responsibility to defend itself
That is misinformation you are spreading,only fools will agree with you
Defend yourself within your own territory. You have no business putting your troops in another country
@celiajames600
DRC MUST be taught a lesson not to Harbour genociders --
DRC MUST treat its citizens equally NOT. on the basis of ETHNICITY !
Our problem is that we welcomed the Rwandans in 1994 when they were at war; they noticed that we have great wealth, they no longer want to return home to Rwanda, they have multiplied strategies to cut our country and keep the richest part, this is the cause of the conflict. In 22 years we gave everything to the Rwandans, but they are not satisfied, they now want to take over the country
@@kinshasium this is the same strategy of the Zionists in Israel. everyone accepted them in Palestine after they went through the genocide of the Third Reich. Today the Israelis are the ones doing most of the killing of people who accepted them after world war One and the architect of that was Britain who had the Palestine mandate after German and the Ottomans were defeated. It culminated in the creation of the Jewish state with the Balfour Declaration for the creation of a Jewish state of Israel. Kagame wants an all Tutsi country and to expand it. (Rwanda is a densely peopled country. It is making more sense now.
Excellent TALK Prof. well articulated with a deep knowledge of the situation
Please SADC soldiers come together and fight for your territory otherwise it might not stop in Cong alone
You don't deserve to be called prof, if me primary teacher in Uganda understands the root course of the problem. We have banyarwanda in Uganda and we accept them as Ugandans which is true, why can't Congo understand the same
We don’t have and we don’t want to. It is our choice and we have chosen not to. They are not Congolese and we don’t want them. Period. They should head back to their God’s cursed country.
The problem is that DRC has been dishing out minerals to many countries in the world, including many SADC countries. Now, it's difficult to stop countries from leaving the "honey pot"😅😂.
we stand with DRC. This is what is happening in congo: Just because they call themselves Congolese doesn't mean they are . There has never been any tribe called Banyamurenge in congo . These are the refugees who ran from civil war in Rwanda. Congo accepted them as refugee with compassion. Now when Laurent Desire Kabila toppled Mobutu, he was aided militarily by Rwanda and Burundi, then when He got the power he said to his allies to go back to their countries for their payments will be respected but they in turn didn't want to go back to their countries that is why their went to hide among the refugees in the eastern part of the congo and started the war. When they started they weren't strong until all the west superpowers got behind Rwanda and wished to keep the instability going so that they can continue to loot the DRCongo . Now After a very long time, this group feels empowered enough and start laying claims of that side of the country of congo as their own share of land . this is insane , if that that Land was poor in resource they wouldn't have done that ! M23 has never been Congolese
You are clearly clueless...
Rwanda's president is working on behalf of UK, Belgium & other countries the have interests in DRC.💯👌
Also Russia
Is the Congolese gvt also working on behalf of those governments to opress the Citizens of Eastern DRC , treating them as trash, 2nd class Citizens & sponsoring genocidists against them?
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Rwanda is NOT the problem - DRC MUST sort out the problem of it's citizens in the Eastern DRC -
Our problem is that we welcomed the Rwandans in 1994 when they were at war; they noticed that we have great wealth, they no longer want to return home to Rwanda, they have multiplied strategies to cut our country and keep the richest part, this is the cause of the conflict. In 22 years we gave everything to the Rwandans, but they are not satisfied, they now want to take over the country
Western countries are the biggest elephant in the house
@@kinshasiumBut they don't talk about it
How Rwanda is interfering in DRC matters.
For one's thank you sabc. Here's the Truth
3:12 "the elephant in the room is Rwanda". It's good to see African begins to understand that is Kagame the president of Rwanda the problem
Prof with all due respect, who created the borders. Rwanda and East DRC people are one people so in my view DRC needs to be divided. They are a lot of ethnic groups in DRC that government doesn’t represent.
SADC got into something they don’t completely understand
They understand it but Congo wealth has blinded them. Mbeki and Nyerere, both from sadc, thoroughly understand the DRC issues
Google a UN document “Plundering of DR Congo natural resources: Final report of the Panel of Experts (S/2002/1146)” and then come back again. They understand it very well.
we stand with DRC. This is what is happening in congo: Just because they call themselves Congolese doesn't mean they are . There has never been any tribe called Banyamurenge in congo . These are the refugees who ran from civil war in Rwanda. Congo accepted them as refugee with compassion. Now when Laurent Desire Kabila toppled Mobutu, he was aided militarily by Rwanda and Burundi, then when He got the power he said to his allies to go back to their countries for their payments will be respected but they in turn didn't want to go back to their countries that is why their went to hide among the refugees in the eastern part of the congo and started the war. When they started they weren't strong until all the west superpowers got behind Rwanda and wished to keep the instability going so that they can continue to loot the DRCongo . Now After a very long time, this group feels empowered enough and start laying claims of that side of the country of congo as their own share of land . this is insane , if that that Land was poor in resource they wouldn't have done that ! M23 has never been Congolese
@djodjokabema2146 total lies. Congolese Tutsi were in Kivu before Congo came into existence. North and south Kivu were part of Rwanda kingdom before europeans divided it in Berlin
They know it SANDF been in DRC since 1998 during Mbeki is just that they are not there to fight
Dear Professor, though you started by showing that you are informed about this crisis but you are not at all. What you said are total irrelevant!
1. M23 are Congolese who are fighting for their rights (of living, etc) because their families had been targeted, killed, trying to deny them citizenship as Congolese calling them Rwandese just because some are Kinyarwanda speakers.
- Be informed that these people they were in their current land before the existence of DRC. Congo/Zaire Republic.
- Also be informed that almost the whole Eastern DR.Congo was part of Rwanda before Colonial Boarders.
- I hope it easy to understand that by drawing the Boarders they took the LAND and with PEOPLE on that land to the other side. i.e: from Rwanda side to DRC side. And therefore, they automatically changed from being Rwandan but Congolese. However, this couldn't make them change the Language.
2. The East African Community Regional Force (EACRF)' mission and SADC Forces (SAMIDRC)'mission in Eastern DRC were different;
- The mission for EACRF was not to fight rather to stand in between the two fighting parts namely; M23 and DRC forces.
This resulted to the stop of fighting for about 6 month until when President of DRC (Kisekedi) decided to chase away these forces (EACRF) and he really did it just because for him didn't want talks all (with M23).
That is when he invited invited SAMIDRC with a clear mission to fight M23.
Note: SAMIDRC did not go to DRC as a peace keeping force but as a Fighting force with an aim of defeating M23 calling them Rwandans. Saying that they are going to send those Rwandans from where they came from.
3. In Eastern DRC people had been killed openly just because they are said to have Rwanda origin. Some were even roasted and eaten as if those killers were eating goats or other animals and NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS.
Know that if people are ignored to this level, they may either to accept seating down and get killed all or they Fight back denying to perish. And that is what M23 is doing, saying no we want to Live.
I think this is a professor by name
We are in the region and we know the reality
Cannibalism is disgusting.!
How can such a thing be happening in day and age!
Are you from Rwanda 🇷🇼?
I think they devide the country (drc), because it's too for cisekedi and company.And also because the other tribe is being marginalized.Let's take Sudanese way.
Our problem is that we welcomed the Rwandans in 1994 when they were at war; they noticed that we have great wealth, they no longer want to return home to Rwanda, they have multiplied strategies to cut our country and keep the richest part, this is the cause of the conflict. In 22 years we gave everything to the Rwandans, but they are not satisfied, they now want to take over the country
It pains to listen to a learned person like him dodge the origin of the issue. What is happening to us really
South African media is trying to convince its public for a reason to go to war
we stand with DRC. This is what is happening in congo: Just because they call themselves Congolese doesn't mean they are . There has never been any tribe called Banyamurenge in congo . These are the refugees who ran from civil war in Rwanda. Congo accepted them as refugee with compassion. Now when Laurent Desire Kabila toppled Mobutu, he was aided militarily by Rwanda and Burundi, then when He got the power he said to his allies to go back to their countries for their payments will be respected but they in turn didn't want to go back to their countries that is why their went to hide among the refugees in the eastern part of the congo and started the war. When they started they weren't strong until all the west superpowers got behind Rwanda and wished to keep the instability going so that they can continue to loot the DRCongo . Now After a very long time, this group feels empowered enough and start laying claims of that side of the country of congo as their own share of land . this is insane , if that that Land was poor in resource they wouldn't have done that ! M23 has never been Congolese
Just as painful as you not stating what is in your view the origin
@carolynchisadza9101 its not what my view is, its agin what the real origin is. I left it for you to do a thorough reading/research in that way you will understand it better than me feeding you what you may not agree with(which is very normal). To help you, try to access these;
1. Go back to history and read what came out in the Berlin conference in regard to how affected were borderine people.
2. The creation of Maimai militia by the late president Mobutu of the then Zaire and what was his main aim or purpose
3. Speech by the late former Tanzania president Nyerere and former SA president Thabo Mbeli on this issue.
4. The 1994 Genocide against the Tutsi in Rwanda.
5. How FDRL came about, what it is in the eyes of the international community, its operations both in Rwanda and DRC and its collaborations with the FRDC in relation to the current situation both before and now.
6. I believe you are a learned person to understand the term "security threat". Paint that whole picture and I believe you will get the answe you desperately need. Thank you, God bless you.
Tshisekedi must accept that M23 are Congolese only a Dialogue will Solve this Mess otherwise he will be overthrown from his High Horse ....
they are not Congolese..should the whole world support rebels now?
Wef should be charged with crimes against humanity
we stand with DRC. This is what is happening in congo: Just because they call themselves Congolese doesn't mean they are . There has never been any tribe called Banyamurenge in congo . These are the refugees who ran from civil war in Rwanda. Congo accepted them as refugee with compassion. Now when Laurent Desire Kabila toppled Mobutu, he was aided militarily by Rwanda and Burundi, then when He got the power he said to his allies to go back to their countries for their payments will be respected but they in turn didn't want to go back to their countries that is why their went to hide among the refugees in the eastern part of the congo and started the war. When they started they weren't strong until all the west superpowers got behind Rwanda and wished to keep the instability going so that they can continue to loot the DRCongo . Now After a very long time, this group feels empowered enough and start laying claims of that side of the country of congo as their own share of land . this is insane , if that that Land was poor in resource they wouldn't have done that ! M23 has never been Congolese
M23 are not Congolese they are Rwanda
Stop supporting crime my friend
M23 was trained by Museveni in a place called Bihanga in the district of Ibanda in Uganda. Museveni's son warned that they are going to chase all foreign army in Congo and its exactly what's being done
we stand with DRC. This is what is happening in congo: Just because they call themselves Congolese doesn't mean they are . There has never been any tribe called Banyamurenge in congo . These are the refugees who ran from civil war in Rwanda. Congo accepted them as refugee with compassion. Now when Laurent Desire Kabila toppled Mobutu, he was aided militarily by Rwanda and Burundi, then when He got the power he said to his allies to go back to their countries for their payments will be respected but they in turn didn't want to go back to their countries that is why their went to hide among the refugees in the eastern part of the congo and started the war. When they started they weren't strong until all the west superpowers got behind Rwanda and wished to keep the instability going so that they can continue to loot the DRCongo . Now After a very long time, this group feels empowered enough and start laying claims of that side of the country of congo as their own share of land . this is insane , if that that Land was poor in resource they wouldn't have done that ! M23 has never been Congolese
How can a small country like Rwanda beat up SADC?
You will see by your eyes 👀
Really, let them try.. it is not size that matters.
This would not be our first rodeo, and I think South Africa isn't prepared for 1000s of death of their sons and daughters.
As a Rwandan and many of us feel same, we are willing to die defending our country (is SA willing to do same?), never again will we be stateless.
Therein is the answer to your question.
How did a tiny island like Britain control 25% of the world? “It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”
While you see a dog on top of a tree, know that there are people's who put it there, because a dog doesn't know how to climb a tree. If you are flexible in your though you will understand my parabbol; think I respond to your question
France and america are behind
Frankly speaking, having listened to interviews with different officials in SA there is contradictory statements on the mission of SANDF in DRC, some say it is a peacekeeping force while other say it is an intervention force! So this should show that there is a real embarrassment in the gvt of SA on what they are doing in DRC!
The distinction between peacekeeping and intervention can be subtle but significant. In essence, peacekeeping in a foreign country often implies intervention by nature. It might just be a matter of how officials frame it, rather than actual confusion on the mission.
You listen to politicians who want put each other down illiterate ones. Listen to interviews of Professors of African studies, Dr's by Academics and Historians they being interviewed 😂😂 Kagame is angry his country is being exposed coz of associating itself with Terorists M23
I don’t think these guys are capable of going against Mr Kagame. He is a very principled leader, with combat experience and a united country who will fight for him to the death. None of these leaders are loved by their respective citizenry, and their countries are in utter chaos as we speak.
Kak analysis he wont be in frontline
Stop what you are smoking,Kai-kai is not right for your brain
And those things you mentioned makes him a God or immortal? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kagame is LOVED BY THE WESTERN COUNTRIES ( EUROPE)
Yooo!!!principled leader?haai something is wrong with you, people have died,they are still dying yet you call him principled....win...lean politics please.
That man knows the story very well, we need more people like him to tell us the full story.
Very good analyses
Let peace reign
M23 are Congolese Please .
HE PKagame has told you the true.
But Others are lying .
That's why I'm proud of HE PKagame.
The problem of DRC must be solved by using Negotiation ,I'm agree with HE PK .c'est tout👏👏🇷🇼🇷🇼🇷🇼
Negotiations with who ? And for what ??
ubwengi is made by rwanda
Kagame is a big lie is the one caused genocide after bombarded aircraft of president abiarimana
Is DRC and RWANDA part of SADAC? or SADAC is just holding a meeting on behalf of the master?
DRC is both a member of SADC & EAC
Only DRC in SADAC
And only RWANDA in EAC
here is some one who understand better the conflict in drc,thank God right men still existing
Kagame is not to blame entirely but the RDC President has to address the M23 Concerns in full before blaming Kagame
SADC is nato of Africa
no, Nto is backing rwanda
Based on what?
They are useless.. just puppets ro impress the west and other masters.
If they were NATO of Africa (not sure what you mean by that), they would have advised DRC to stop killing their citizens and include them in government.
I m happy for SADC to meet and take a joint stance and action against those rebels
They must deal with Kagame.
The Professor has a point and this Journslist does not want this version of the problem.
There is a proverb that says growing older brings wisdom, but even fools grow older.
This old man is avoiding the real factors behind this conflict, while so-called experts on television are distorting the issues.
The FDLR militias, who committed genocide in Rwanda, were integrated into the Congolese army along with their dangerous ideologies.
Congolese Kinyarwanda speakers have been harassed for years, yet no one is addressing their grievances.
On top of this, the SANDF is now fighting alongside the FDLR and Burundians, which is a terrible development.
The kind of entitlement that Kagame and some of his followers harbour echoes that of Netanyahu and his followers. 15 months came to pass and what have they gained? Before long the same question will be asked of Kagame.
The one thing Rwanda 🇷🇼 did make Africans little respect by clean Rwanda 🇷🇼
The prof know very well what is going on in congo ,leader in the world have to stop the madness of the president kagame people's are dying please help congo
M23 are Congolese
M23 is Kagame
No they are mot my friend is rwanda defenses forces
@@SergeDikenda: that is of roots causes of there existancy of course.
❤❤❤❤❤❤Louder please
Not long ago Kagame said they were Ugandans now they are DRC's...? which is which?
M 23 is Congolese movement fighting for their own survival. Who is helping or not those are Congolese that have right to the life in their own country full stop . Involving Rwanda doesn’t solve the problem,
You mean traitors fighting and terrorism
no, they are rwandese
@@kinshasiumInterahamwe turabazi
Okay
then the fight goes on.the moment you start thinking that you’re the only person who is meant to be live.know that you won’t be safe
this is ridiculous...
Why can SADC region come to Chase M 23 ( banyamulenge people) out of congo while they are Congolese so where do you want them to be ??
we stand with DRC. This is what is happening in congo: Just because they call themselves Congolese doesn't mean they are . There has never been any tribe called Banyamurenge in congo . These are the refugees who ran from civil war in Rwanda. Congo accepted them as refugee with compassion. Now when Laurent Desire Kabila toppled Mobutu, he was aided militarily by Rwanda and Burundi, then when He got the power he said to his allies to go back to their countries for their payments will be respected but they in turn didn't want to go back to their countries that is why their went to hide among the refugees in the eastern part of the congo and started the war. When they started they weren't strong until all the west superpowers got behind Rwanda and wished to keep the instability going so that they can continue to loot the DRCongo . Now After a very long time, this group feels empowered enough and start laying claims of that side of the country of congo as their own share of land . this is insane , if that that Land was poor in resource they wouldn't have done that ! M23 has never been Congolese
You have mentioned it correctly that he is a professor, I refer him to Mr. Mbeki's speech about the ethicistic situation that has become chronic within western DRC. From his speech you can learn which ways can be implemented to eradicate the catastrophe other than seeing Rwanda as the cause.
Send a force immediately to stop Rwanda. No negotiations before Rwanda and M23 exit Congo
Frank, for you can U exit your mother country?
a force from which country/tries ?
They should have done that long time ago but that will not happen SADC have useless leaders
Forces had already deployed but failed 😂😂
Wise guy.. dream on, M23 is there to stay. Get rid of that pompous Kisekedi and get a serious President that can do something for citizens of DRC, that country is a joke.
These leader who wants to be peace makers is there peace in their countries, are they wanted by their own people or they are in power by force through military and human rights violations.
They is no peace special here in Zim
You should also talk about the collaboration between DRC and FDRL. It is really a shame to see with FDRL together against M23. I totally agree with President Kagame
He is lying like his boss
Everyone is talking about M23 and Rwanda who is supporting but no one wants talk the real reason M23 has been fighting and why Rwanda would help? It's being ignorant or corrupted? I'm telling you, africa still has a long way to go😢
You all say that because you don't know the gravity and suffering that we Rwandans have gone through. We died while the whole world was watching and you did nothing. Instead of believing that the Congolese government should stop collaborating with the FDL, you are instead collaborating with it to continue the plan to end the Genocide because it was not carried out as those who planned it wanted???
You can say that again
Banyamulenge commanded by General Kaberebe helped Laurent Kabila march to Kinshasa Zimbabwe sent troops after general Kaberebe and his cohorts felt betrayed fighting ensued Kabila seeing defeat called SADC Zimbabwe’s Mugabe sent his special forces to Kinshasa,Ndjili airport was the epicentre of fierce clashes between the rebels led again by General Kaberebe.
So the turning point was when Zimbabwean airforce came in to support the commandos the command of rebels escaped into Angola which was having its own civil war, general Kaberebe’s group found a disused airfield flew back to Kigali to lick their wounds they later formed RCD Goma after the main RCD split to RCD 👉Goma and RCD Kisangani Zimbabwe, Angola and Namibia were an alliance South Africa refused to join remember this , FYI Rwandan forces fought fierce battles against Ugandan forces in Kisangani what more proof do you need that M23 is a creation of disgruntled Tutsi’s born in the Kivu’s but backed by Rwanda, why did Rwanda attend the Angola peace talks?
Reel cause it’s DRC minerals.
They have no reason, any one!
How much does the countries benefit from peace keeping in other countries or its just for free?
What is sad is someone with your capacity can't even tell the truth.
Kagame is not a SADC is a problem
The other day, another meeting was in Nairobi talking the same thing. These Africa regional blocks could be part of the DRC problem and confusion.
this professa l wish to give him 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 you are the best at all time God bless prof❤❤❤❤
Folks like you supporting him show how easy it is to fool people.. he is just a prop for someone and probably getting paid for it. As for you.. trying to get basic facts for yourself, I can't waste my time here.
Even mbeki was and still benefiting from DRCongo, remember his answer in parliamentary when asked about private jet and villa he responded that he had his own business in DRCongo
M23 are Congolese - this guy is inciting violence
SADC will always be surprised and ashamed the fact that they have no reason to fight
Sadc is Britain you can't seperate these ones Rwanda is dead
Madame you should have allowed prof to laid the foundation whci is very important to understand the situation. Kagame is a liar!
Don't negotiate with rebels. Otherwise this will be a step towards destabilising SADC
What are they discussing ? Nato n allies will undermine african efforts. Rwanda the Israel of Africa.
Are you pride of you? When millions of people are dying?
Israel of Africa? The president that has banned churches in his country ? Or you meant a puppet of Israel and the West
@@nellytshiamakalonji6800 What are you saying ?
The majority of White people is in SADC not Rwanda. You know nothing about politics
Finally someone call out that madala mbeki, who thing ka_game is an angel
Rwanda is backing M23's survival in exchange for a cut of the minerals
I wonder how this genius joined Zanu instead of the people's army Zapu during the war, Zanu was busy killing each other & eating each other alive in Mozambique during the struggle.
@Prof. Ibbo Mandaza: How scientific your arguments are? "Can you re-confirm what you have said that Rwanda has no mines?" Convincing people while misleading them will not bring peace in our region you are talking about, while basing on what others tell or what UN experts report (which as also questionable). As a scholar, I was expecting from you verified points that can lead those people in unfinished meetings.
Which mean do you have
Small-scale mining accounts for around 80 percent of the country's mineral output in Rwanda. The most important sub-codes are Tin Ore, Tungsten, Titanium, Nobium-Tantalum, and gold. Fact is Rwanda is a country that exports more than it mines. It’s not rocket science where the minerals come from. Vast amounts of minerals like coltan and gold are smuggled from the war-ravaged DRC through Rwanda.
SADC is not the right platform to discuss this. Prof Mandaza is right - Kagame is the agitator in that region; it is he that benefits most from the conflict with Uganda in support (and he can hide behind pursuing 1994 genocidiers, and the EU/US will not sanction him because of their hangover embarrassments for not doing enough in 1994 ).
So how can this be a SADC matter?!
This is an AU discussion now because the EAC is clearly captured by Kagame…and therefore no sobriety remains in that grouping because they’re all benefiting from the instability in the Eastern DRC.
A SADC meeting is yet more much-ado-about-nothing! Especially since really only South Africa is contributing meaningful resources in the peacekeeping mission (where are Angola, Namibia, Botswana’s forces?)
The AU must step in now, and decisively!
Sorry guys I am
Rwandan born out side please peace only
This must be the last one because enough is enough
We don't want SADC forces on our doorstep, they have no mandate in East Africa. And yes they were deployed initially to neutralise M23 and not as peacekeepers, so yes they're a belligerent force adding tension in our region
Africa we still have problem of leaders who are not thinking properly . How can you make this clear while you are skipping that m23 are DRC citizens fighting for freedom
The problem is DRC itself who allowed in armed rwanda genociders who are now fighting alongside govt forces! Rwanda has a right to defend itself from within and outside it's boarders.
but Malema is actually telling the truth you are just confirming it sir
SADEC MEETING??? TRIBAL MEETING YES
The M23 is a Rwandan supported military rebel group despite denial by Rwanda.
Coz in the context of saying that it is aTutsi people fighting for their rights, that's a hiding ground, No ethnic group has capacity to have such powerful weapons like for a country that this Rebel group has.
It is unfortunate that this news anchor stopped Professor Mandaza from elucidating, rather authoritatively I might add, on the pivotal role played by Rwanda in the DRC crisis and the extent to which the EU is culpable in looting minerals from the DRC, with the help of the devil called K’Game. I think the professor must be given another chance to help South Africans, and others in the SADC region, understand the origin and extent of the war and what is driving it.
I used to see old men and think they are wise until I've seen you here. Rwabda has no any sin
Zim hosting SADC meeting on DRC a day after Kenya calling for EAC one a day before. There's a big problem right there
Zim has got its own problems. It must not try to be big for nothing.
Is Uganda sadac member
Kggame is stubborn and should be taken care of. He is exporting h 4:37 is internal dominance and victimiization
Aaa I'm from rwanda please stop talking about for what u didn't know rwandan board s between drc And rwanda there is many kilometers a long side drc the people are sitaing all of them are spiking rwandan language
SADC meetings can not be held in zimbabwe where there are ongoing unresolved problems. That shows how useless and manupulative SADC leaders are.The SADC committee is useless.
This is the ongoing between Kisekedi and ramaphosa to overthrow kagame
And they are using SADEC as sn excuse..
This is all because M23 is holding SADEC solders as prisons of War but they don't want to talk about it!!!
Please invite people who knows Congo situation from colonial time. They will tell you how M23 is in Congo. Then they need freedom. M23 deserves independence.
How will SADC succeed in contributing to the resolution of the crisis in the Eastern DRC without involving all the players - it won't succeed unless it is truly impartial...
Prof Ibo Mandaza must be given a wider space to educate ignorant SA journalists like Clement Manyathela and the general public on the truth about the Congo DRC, and all the belligerent forces on the ground.
We can do without this bunch of clueless so cold leaders
All those in interest hv long benefits from minerals in DRC
SADC do not disturb the Lion in its jungle. SA was fighting side by side with the FDLR who committed the genocide against the Tutsis in Rwanda. Then Ramaphosa threatened Rwanda. you don’t want to go that way. The peace of Rwanda cannot be threatened we came the long way. Think twice
M23 is fighting for:
1. Their basic human right of having a place they call home,if they don't want them in Congo,let Gisegeti send them to Rwanda But he should be willing to relinquish Eastern Congo,too. Short of it they cant cease to exist. ,
It should be stopped the way Nyerere did to Amin
Fight over strategic minerals.😊
If SADEC fail to act ,on Kagame's Behaviour ,Then it's reason to be, will have no meaning. Kagame helped with some of the EAC, are working hard to destroy SADEC and make it weaker. SADEC should have not accepted what happened in Mozambique. SADEC is the true African Organisation while,the imperialism created EAC to undermine SADEC. You have to act before it's too late.
follow the money then take action.
South African media throwing a zimbo under the bus should have called a Botswana/Naminmbian/Zambian/Malawian to speak... how do you show your cards when RSA itself has been quiet about the political crisis in Zim..remember you represent more than yourself in these platforms
It's not peace keeping mission it's a fighting force
We failing to understand madala because politicians lie😮
Professors are known to be more informed about certain topics before bringing them to the final consumer but this time I’m very disappointed
There's no SADC soldier to give people's peace
The guy is talking rubbish. You can't talk say Rwanda is the problem without mentioning the Hutu rebels. Problem with SADC countries, you haven't known real war or genocide.
Sadc is only good at fighting its own unarmed citizens .
Rwanda must stop stealing minerals from DRC
The professor is right.
@@donaldchikudo1521: minerals,minerals,what u do with that?
Mandaza is talking nonsense, the point of negotiation must be the fair treatment of those DRC Tutsis , treat them like humans not trash, equitable distribution of resources, implementation of actual devolution or federalism thats the first step not those teritorial integrity nonsense.
Why the Congolese Army is not strong enough to protect it's territory?