Kentucky Derby 2024 hard-core handicappers on the Ron Flatter Racing Pod

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  • Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
  • Johnny Avello, Ed DeRosa, and Mark Midland join the Ron Flatter Racing Podcast to discuss every horse in this year's Kentucky Derby. The trio touches each horse's chance of winning as well as how to use in various wagering strategies.
    How will they play the favorite Fierceness? Will Sierra Leone, Catching Freedom and Forever Young figure prominently on their tickets? Who are the tosses, and who are the value plays?
    The panel answers all those questions.
    The group also has a snapshot of Friday’s Grade 1 Kentucky Oaks and their best strategy for attacking Kentucky Derby 2024.
    The Ron Flatter Racing Pod via Horse Racing Nation is available via free subscription from Apple, Firefox, iHeart and Spotify as well as HorseRacingNation.com.
    This week’s episode is sponsored by Xpressbet. For information on Saturday’s Kentucky Derby Challenge, go to www.xpressbet.com/kyd-3000-5-....
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  • @bnegs521
    @bnegs521 Місяць тому +3

    Dude in the left corner bottom was all about the Two Phil's last year and that was a great pick. I wish I would have listened

    • @glennfromel5711
      @glennfromel5711 Місяць тому

      Mark Midland. I think he is brst of this group.

  • @1NicoleD
    @1NicoleD Місяць тому +5

    I like Forever Young, it's Serria Leone 1st cousin they have the same stock.

  • @lj291261
    @lj291261 Місяць тому +3

    I like Fierceness, but I worry he might suffer the problem Rock Your World encountered and lost. The big starter field for me is always the biggest challenge and then comes the distance. Thanks guys for doing this podcast, it is by far the most informative.

    • @bnegs521
      @bnegs521 Місяць тому

      FIERCENESS will get this distance as long as he isnt hung wide around multiple turns.

  • @johnmoeller2480
    @johnmoeller2480 Місяць тому +1

    I hit the Tri-fecta last year. I keyed Angel of Empire for 1st 2nd 3rd. With Mage Two Phil's and 8 others for $135.00

  • @davidmitchell3776
    @davidmitchell3776 Місяць тому

    …great group. much knowledge

  • @fitnesssoup7553
    @fitnesssoup7553 28 днів тому

    Epic Ride is going to knock into Fierceness darting for position at the start.

  • @bnegs521
    @bnegs521 Місяць тому +1

    There will be a pace. If you are betting on this race DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT.

  • @AZsullen
    @AZsullen Місяць тому +1

    Im going Catching Freedom, Just a touch, Honor Marie, and then adding 1 horse for super. Probably not the favorites due to post draw. My 4th I like Encino or any other LS

  • @Horseslayer24
    @Horseslayer24 Місяць тому +1

    Ways n means into fierceness! $500 for $10,000

  • @danielnino691
    @danielnino691 28 днів тому

    5

  • @westhoff-
    @westhoff- Місяць тому

    Just Steel-TOSS

  • @Vng370
    @Vng370 Місяць тому

    West Saratoga is going to surprise everybody! He’s blessed! Lots of experience on different surfaces he’s really a mud horse. I will bet WPS 300.00

    • @HorseRacingNation
      @HorseRacingNation  Місяць тому

      👀Wow, that's strong! Good Luck!!

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 Місяць тому +2

      Hmm. He's gonna have to surprise everyone. He's had 10 races and has showed he's slow, and has shown he can't improve his speed figures. On paper, for a lot of reasons, he's dead in the water. You really can't bet every horse and make money, so you need to start throwing out horses. I see no positives in his charts. But good luck!

  • @boristheamerican2938
    @boristheamerican2938 Місяць тому +4

    Woulda Shoulda Coulda, the words of the broken down horseplayer.

  • @HorseRacingNation
    @HorseRacingNation  Місяць тому

    Who do you like?

  • @danielszydlowski3082
    @danielszydlowski3082 Місяць тому +1

    Johnny V will gun Fierceness.......because he knows the other riders will not fight him and compromise their own chances to be in the money--

    • @EJXD2
      @EJXD2 Місяць тому

      I think he's a big gate-to-wire threat for sure!

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 Місяць тому +1

      He'll gun him? As in he'll use him at the beginning? Very unlikely.

    • @williamharrigan2083
      @williamharrigan2083 29 днів тому

      Don't forget the 17 hole jinx!

    • @question_it_701
      @question_it_701 29 днів тому

      @@williamharrigan2083 nothing more than coincidental. And now it's just saddle cloth #17. He's hole 16. But again, It's nothing more than coincidental, just like, say...if red silks while in the 5 hole has had no winners ever. It means nothing.

  • @MrJenten10
    @MrJenten10 Місяць тому +2

    Blah Blah Blah Rich strike fell out of the clouds to beat them all at 80 to 1,, Mystik Dan looks like rain

  • @Vng370
    @Vng370 Місяць тому

    It’s going to rain

  • @user-vr7yp5sv8j
    @user-vr7yp5sv8j Місяць тому

    Is it unprecedented for a KD entrant to either directly or indirectly have 16 of its likely opponents covered?
    Sierra Leone defeated 8 likely starters
    Of the 8 likely starters defeated by Sierra leone, 3 have defeated another 5 likely starters.
    Of the 5 likely starters defeated by entrants that finished behind Sierra Leone, 2 have in turn defeated 3 other likely starters. (8+5+3=16).
    Domestic Product (Remsen) - Finished ahead of Fierceness in the Holy Bull. Fierceness defeated Catalytic & Grand Mo The First in the Fl Derby; DP defeated No More Time who defeated West Saratoga.
    There is always the danger of assuming that Sierra Leone's pending opponents, that were defeated by horses he has already defeated, are unlikely to pose a problem. But it's an angle that can be used to narrow the field. See below:
    Dornoch (Blue Grass)
    Just A Touch (Blue Grass)
    Catching Freedom (Risen Star)- Defeated Just Steel and Mystik Dan in Smarty Jones; Mystik Dan defeated Wynstock who defeated Stronghold in the Los Al Futurity
    Track Phantom - (Risen Star)
    Resilience - (Risen Star) Defeated Society Man in Wood Memorial
    Honor Marie (Risen Star)
    Epic Ride (Blue Grass)

    Many might be rightfully dismissive of the above perspective from which Sierra Leone is being viewed against his likely opponents. But if none of the 16 are capable of beating him, which appears to be the case. The field is narrowed to 4. The Chad Brown $2.3M colt has only 3 opponents to worry about.

  • @c32amgracer
    @c32amgracer Місяць тому

    Too many commercials, WTF

  • @Horseslayer24
    @Horseslayer24 Місяць тому

    Ways n means I ri😢fiercness

  • @dnice8451
    @dnice8451 28 днів тому

    Tri ,ex box 2/11/17