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Old guy advice, don’t use air chisels, you’re elbows will thank you. Just replace the whole arm and move on.
I know about the air chisel. Painful. Used it for years.😢
@Pete Pusinskas is there a consequence for using a air chisel ?
@Max Rodvibration white finger, or maybe white arm
@Max Rod I've used an air hammer for years doing body work. Took a toll on my elbow, constant pain. Went to work for the county doing mechanic work. It's a lot better
Cinceles de aire se entiende q es con maquina y boto q es a martillazo
Judging by how sharp that drill bit is this must have taken well over an hour when you could have Is removed the heads in less than 2 minutes with a grinder.
Yeah but heat could ruin the temper on the part. I doubt it but it's possible
@john dowebetter drill means less heat on the part. Bad drill means more friction and less cutting. Temperature in that case, has nothing to do with it, that iron has not enough carbon content to become brittle.
Cortando em X,facilmente.
You need a whole control arm lol I'm not doing all that because they don't pay you for it 😂
This guy has real work ethic cause everyone here inthe comments including myself would just replace the whole arm
Right Ball joints are probably 20-30 bucks for both and some hardware is 5 bucks and maybe 1 control arm is 100 bucks. He’s the smart one
@Benjamin Fisher IVyou wear out your tires because the bushings in the control arem allow play ...no alignment in the world can fix that, also you run risk of sing steering control in severe moments avoiding crash or loss od stability on rain hydroplaning and ice... not to mention reduced braking ...But hey, I'm sure you'll use that money better in your next life...
@1truthseeking8 Bushings are also swappable. You're making this to be an enormously bigger deal than it actually is. I would bet a significant sum that old control arm with new bushings + new ball joint is going to be exactly within spec on both camber, caster and any other significant metric. Not to mention golf 4 comes factory with swappable ball joints.
“Why did my tie rod and rack ends cost me $400?!?” All you gotta do is show them this hahaha
У нас в России, делают так же кирнят, не много сверлят. Потом ложат шарик от подшипника. И давят гидравлическим пресом. Вылетает на ура
А что потом взамен ставить? Если оригинал идет в сборе
@Mister Muhutyaменя всегда интересовал этот вопрос .
@Mister Muhutyaаналогичный, только под болты
У вас в России умеют хоть что-то делать кроме бомб???
@Канал Баті а с чего ты взял что мы умеем делать бомбы?
Hit that with an air hammer and chisel and they pop right off
I use a grinder. Mostly because my air compressor isn't large enough to really supply enough air long enough
man I'm so glad my Corolla only has bolts connecting the arm to the ball joint so don't have to replace both at the same time
We never drill those out we always just use an air chisel. Typically we do it while it's still on the car
Oh great, I have to try it too.
@opelservice kyiv I always notch the head both ways then chisel less effort with chisel that way
@Nash DuffI do something similar, I'll cut the head of the rivet with the chisel in a cross pattern. Then to the side.
I've learned that this is the only option if the vehicles lower arms are no longer manufactured or are more expensive than the labor and parts required here.
Replace the complete control arm would have been a lot easier
Да, это дороже
More expensive BUT you get new bushings at the frame attachments … at least on my 08 focus.
@opelservice kyivalmost 10times more expensive
For very strong steel, use a concrete drill bit. But, of course, it needs to be sharpened a little first. With a concrete drill, you can make a hole even in a bearing ball.
Thanks a lot
Use a angle grinder they will be off in half the time or less
That sure is doing it the hard way. It must be an hourly shop.
Lol just had a guy come in with an ancient AMC arm with one of these, he wanted the bushing on the other side
Easier and likely cheaper to swap the entire control arm. Drilling these take an absolute eternity, in my opinion using an angle grinder works best. Hard part is when half the rivet gets stuck to the control arm!!
totally agree, it's about saving money
I usually cut an x with a cut off wheel and then use my air hammer has the whole thing done quickly!!
6 months later the bushes need replaced. Yeah, we're replacing the arm with a new ball joint on it.
Man, I hate to inform the customer that they paid twice what a new control arm cost.
Why would they pay double
@john dowe Labor
@PW Gadgets looks like polish or central European. Labor is cheap there also
Labor costs are not the same around the world that’s why in some countries they still repair stuff rather than just replace.
I use a grinder or replace the whole arm
Isso é inevitável da minha idade mechendo em oficina não sabia me ajudo dimais
Good stuff my man, wish my mechanic cared that much
Ja to prebrusim na nulu i izbijem mnogo brze
Always interesting video's - I might sharpen that drill 🙂
Pay close attention this is how it's supposed to be done.
Dude all the time and labor could’ve been saved by buying the whole arm
In the rust belt they never punch out that easy
If the ball joint isn’t serviceable, don’t try and service it
Ok, thank you
Air hammer works better
Просто шарик от подшипника поставили диаметром самого болта и под пресс. Очень легко
Use cobalt drill bits with drop of oil. Expensive but worth it 👌
Thank you very much for your valuable advice 👍
Положи шарик от подшипника подходящего диаметра заклепки и надови прессом без сверления ! Сама вылетает .
Any real mechanic would be using a grinder and not a freaking drill
Just buy the damn control arm bro 😎
Tbh we just change the entire arm, because when the rear bush needs replacing the new arms mostly come with a new ball joint anyway
This is good😮 i usually use a airhammer and chissel to cut off rivets but if no air available this is very 👍😮😅
Thanks a lot 👍😀
Пресс и подшипник!!!!
Это слишком по русски😅
I have a Mac Air hammer that would have those rivets screaming in agony in about 5 minutes!
Uma Esmerilhadeira com disco de corte , eu uso no lugar da furadeira e bem mais rápido ! Depois uso um rolete de rolamento e levo na prensa!
Question 🙋♀️ Why would the factory use rivets instead of bolts and nuts ?
Maybe not exactly, but probably during the manufacture, the calculation was for the entire wear of the lever in order to change it as an assembly
Delete this video, it's a joke. Real mechanic here
I've done a ton of those over the years, it's cheaper/faster for the factory but a pain in the ass for us. 😊
Das mache ich im eingebauten Zustand 😂
You do realize it probably only pays 1.0 hours to R&I that ball joint, right?We use an air hammer with a chisel bit and do it right on the car
Thank you my friend 👍
Кладете посередине клепки шарик от подшипника и давите прессом, за минуту все готово!
Спасибо, будем пробовать
I liked the part when he replaces the ball joint.
A 4" grinder would make that simple.
I use an air hammer and takes me 2 hours to do a 5 hour job. Those rivets are rather large though 😂 that a GM huh?
Yes, thanks a lot
Poor Germans. In the US, we just go to O'Reilly's and get the entire thing replaced but not for Opel. No Opels in US.
Use the press on the other side and open below the bolts! Two pieces of metal leaving space them to drop!!! WTH!!! You already took off the arm anyway.
Имел форд fusion, надо было менять шаровые опоры, купил, а там оказались заклёпки, кто мог подумать, пришлось срезать заклёпки шлифовальной машинкой, не снимая рычаги.
It cost 45 bucks for a hole control arm and it cost 65 to do this 😂
Fully agree with you
Не поверите - на Opel заклепки с центровками идут с завода
Вообще это выпресовывается шариком от подшипника за минуту
Я так делаю не снимая рычаг
Я конечно извиняюсь)) но проще взять шарик от подшипника 9-10мм и выдавить эту заклепку на прессе.
Спасибо большое, будем внедрять 👍😀
I vote that you need sharper drill bits. 🙃
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Muito obrigado. Muito legal. 😀👍👍👍
So this is how you replace a balljoint? Now I'm worried that this isnt possible at home 😂
Вот какой ...... Инженер додумался шаровые садить на заклёпки!!!!Пусть жопу себе на заклёпки посадит.
Air hammer and be careful not to damage the control arm but TO EACH, HIS OWN
"Hey let's rivet the consumable part into place so the owner has to buy the whole damned assembly and waste more raw materials at the same time!"Fawk automotive engineers.
Ok, thank you 👍👍👍
Bro ... All the time and labor.... More expensive than the whole arm. Also. Those control arm bushings have the same amount of abuse as that ball joint. Just replace the damn thing....
Не снимая рычаг все делается,10 минут потолок.
Les forêts ne coupent rien.
In the meantime wasn't nothing wrong with the first set of rivet's
Bolts would make a lot more senseOh hey Toyota uses bolts
Toyota has yuge engineering staff that specializes in reliability, serviceability
Uhhh. Some Toyotas you mean. On others they designed them to be replaced with the control arm and were astronomically expensive for a long time. Mk iv supras, soarers and Lexus SC300/400 all share the same chassis and at a time Lexus dealers sold the rear pair for almost $1200 and Toyota would sell you the same for about half the cost. The front was cheaper but still way overpriced. Even with the lower price points you can get them at these days it's still well worth it to modify the oem arms to take replaceable ball joints if not going to aftermarket arms.
When the mec is getting paid by the hour
I had to do this process almost exactly on a Pontiac Aztec. worst experience on a lower ball joint job I've ever had
Aztec?? Really.? Just but a $100 control arm. A "days worth of work" saved.
@Y U it was a favor. Guy already had the part.
Drilling steel... sharp bit, High pressure, coolant and low rpm.
Spending half a hour on a 50 euro control arm, just replace the whole thing
Coreto sem pancadas fortes para empenar a peça!
На форде тоже также, инженерам безразлично как вы будете заменять деталь
A whole new arm cost less then what’s needed to perform this service…..
En argentina Chevrolet era una de las fabricas que remachaban las rotulas a los brazos inferiores de la suspensión de las c10 no se si otras fabricas lo hacian pero era un trastorno para sustituir las rotulas despues se montaba tornilleria adecuada y asi no tener que desarmar una y otra ves pero ahora que lo pienso? quien tenia una remachadora de ese tamaño? solo fabricas y creo que lo hacian asi por una cuestion de costos, un remache vale menos que un tornillo de acero arandelas y tuercas autofrenantes , si , debe haber sido por eso ,saludos
Muchas gracias, fue interesante eso en Argentina con autos. Estás muy lejos. 😀👍
Can tell its from an older vehicle.. look how thick the steel is....Nothing like today's sheet metal crap
Good job 👏 👍 👌 😊
Thank you my friend 😀👍👍👍
I can buy a complete new arm for less than the parts.
Thats one hell of a problem just to change the ball joint, just changing the arm sometimes a pain in the ass😂
thanks for the comment
@opelservicekyiv your welcome, i always look forward for your future videos since it always pop up at the time i faced the same problems
Good job boys😊
Thank you 😊
Лишних действий, шарик от подшипника и пресс. Секундное дело.
I've never seen ball joints riveted to the control arm. It honestly sounds like a dumb idea in my opinion.
В прессе подшибником быстрей
Yo se las cambie a mi Zafira z16xe ❤
Bro, new wish bone and less money, quick 10 mins in and out and on to the next
It is better to restore the ball joint
É só passar a lixadeira pequena e já era
I hated doing the chevy blazers and gmc's alike
Why bother you've got the whole control arm out. Replace it. You get new bushings and the ball joint. That repair can be made on car.
paid by the hour looks so much more fun
So wie die spähne aussehen ist der Bohrer Stumpf..
Just buy the lower control arm and ball joint 😂😂😂....nice video
Grinder is faster and easier.
Simples e fácil assim
В прес ложиш, сверху шарик. И всё вылетает аж бегом без всякого сверления.
Будем теперь только так делать
Why tho. The whole control arm is prob the same price as the ball joint
4” Grinder 🤔
This would only be affordable in China. American wages. Make this type of job too expensive.
Getba new control arm with ball hoinys already installed. Faster
Lo bonito al taladrar es ver las dos virutas saliendo parejas de los dos labios de corte de la broca. En el video sale polvo y eso es que no corta bien, ni con lubricacion ni sin ella.
Where is the part where he replaces the factory rivets?