Judging by how sharp that drill bit is this must have taken well over an hour when you could have Is removed the heads in less than 2 minutes with a grinder.
@@johndowe7003better drill means less heat on the part. Bad drill means more friction and less cutting. Temperature in that case, has nothing to do with it, that iron has not enough carbon content to become brittle.
@@max.rod111 I've used an air hammer for years doing body work. Took a toll on my elbow, constant pain. Went to work for the county doing mechanic work. It's a lot better
@@benjaminfisheriv9340you wear out your tires because the bushings in the control arem allow play ...no alignment in the world can fix that, also you run risk of sing steering control in severe moments avoiding crash or loss od stability on rain hydroplaning and ice... not to mention reduced braking ... But hey, I'm sure you'll use that money better in your next life...
@@1truthseeking8 Bushings are also swappable. You're making this to be an enormously bigger deal than it actually is. I would bet a significant sum that old control arm with new bushings + new ball joint is going to be exactly within spec on both camber, caster and any other significant metric. Not to mention golf 4 comes factory with swappable ball joints.
@@benjaminfisheriv9340It's a Daewoo Lanos, a Control Arm is like less than 60€, this isn't US ridiculous prices. Your labor paid hour in autoshops are already a joke being so high let alone parts. lol A ball joint shouldn't be more than 15€
Get a cut blade and make a T or a cross. Chisel each quarter off. And then hammer out. Sometimes the drill bit gets burnt up or takes too long. Looks like you have a good one
I've learned that this is the only option if the vehicles lower arms are no longer manufactured or are more expensive than the labor and parts required here.
Better way of doing that is take a cut off wheel cut an x on all three rivets then take an air hammer and it'll just slide the top of those rivets right off then you just poke them out put in the new ball joint
Man, he should have pressed out the old bushes and replaced them too, and 6 hours later thats like a brand new arm, i mean he could have sand blasted and re powder coated the arm just for effect but 2 days is pushing it id say :D
Surely at the point the ball joint is worn, the bushes won't be far behind. Sure if it was a bolt on unit replace the ball joint only but you've had to remove the arm to do this, just replace the arm!
Все это проще делается болгаркой запиливается крест на заклепки потом Так же зубилом сбивается заклепка мягкая а вот работа со снятием рычага доя того чтоб ремонт был дороже
Meanwhile during this car development: - "You're gonna use rivets to fix this ball joint? What about maintenance?" - "I'm a engineer, not a mechanic, each one with your own problems..."
Can also use a part of ball bearing. Накернил вместо сверла ложешь стальной щарик от подшипника меньшего размера и ложи на пресс и дави его. Саерлить не надо меньще пыли и быстрее. This trick works very good for me
Имел форд fusion, надо было менять шаровые опоры, купил, а там оказались заклёпки, кто мог подумать, пришлось срезать заклёпки шлифовальной машинкой, не снимая рычаги.
Did Opel not foresee that these would need to be replaced? Having to pull the entire wishbone off the car just to replace a ball joint seems mad. Three bolt system would be far better.
Schreibe nicht, dass man den kompletten Querlenker hätte tauschen sollen bevor man nicht den genauen Arbeitsauftrag vom Kunden gesehen hat. Es gibt genügend davon, bei denen man vergebens versucht, sie von etwas Anderem zu überzeugen.
En argentina Chevrolet era una de las fabricas que remachaban las rotulas a los brazos inferiores de la suspensión de las c10 no se si otras fabricas lo hacian pero era un trastorno para sustituir las rotulas despues se montaba tornilleria adecuada y asi no tener que desarmar una y otra ves pero ahora que lo pienso? quien tenia una remachadora de ese tamaño? solo fabricas y creo que lo hacian asi por una cuestion de costos, un remache vale menos que un tornillo de acero arandelas y tuercas autofrenantes , si , debe haber sido por eso ,saludos
Lo bonito al taladrar es ver las dos virutas saliendo parejas de los dos labios de corte de la broca. En el video sale polvo y eso es que no corta bien, ni con lubricacion ni sin ella.
"Hey let's rivet the consumable part into place so the owner has to buy the whole damned assembly and waste more raw materials at the same time!" Fawk automotive engineers.
Easier and likely cheaper to swap the entire control arm. Drilling these take an absolute eternity, in my opinion using an angle grinder works best. Hard part is when half the rivet gets stuck to the control arm!!
А чтобы выдавить на прессе нужно рычаг снять...... Замена шаровой БЕЗ СЪЕМА! занимает минут 15 просто нужен инструмент но он не работает без рук и головы И РЫЧАГ СНИМАТЬ НЕ НУЖНО И ТАЩИТЬ ЕГО НА ПРЕСС ТОЖЕ!..... КОРОЧЕ Я УЧИЛ ВАШИХ УЧИТЕЛЕЙ
And if your control arms look like that and the balljoint was bad how good do you think the rest of the bushing could possibly be??? Just change the damn control arm
Judging by how sharp that drill bit is this must have taken well over an hour when you could have Is removed the heads in less than 2 minutes with a grinder.
Yeah but heat could ruin the temper on the part. I doubt it but it's possible
Клепки каленые
@@johndowe7003better drill means less heat on the part. Bad drill means more friction and less cutting. Temperature in that case, has nothing to do with it, that iron has not enough carbon content to become brittle.
Cortando em X,facilmente.
Я за этим комментарием зашёл
Old guy advice, don’t use air chisels, you’re elbows will thank you. Just replace the whole arm and move on.
I know about the air chisel. Painful. Used it for years.😢
@@petepusinskas-bi2tg is there a consequence for using a air chisel ?
@@max.rod111vibration white finger, or maybe white arm
@@max.rod111 I've used an air hammer for years doing body work. Took a toll on my elbow, constant pain. Went to work for the county doing mechanic work. It's a lot better
Cinceles de aire se entiende q es con maquina y boto q es a martillazo
Вообще это выпресовывается шариком от подшипника за минуту
Я так делаю не снимая рычаг
_выпрессовывается_
@@UniversumXX одни учителя кругом, даже плюнуть некуда
@@user-qh7wt6rn5iплюй в учителя 😂
@@user-qh7wt6rn5iэто когда у чела высшее, а кроме как в комментах его и применить негде 😁
Good stuff my man, wish my mechanic cared that much
Ja to prebrusim na nulu i izbijem mnogo brze
Pay close attention this is how it's supposed to be done.
You need a whole control arm lol I'm not doing all that because they don't pay you for it 😂
This guy has real work ethic cause everyone here inthe comments including myself would just replace the whole arm
Right Ball joints are probably 20-30 bucks for both and some hardware is 5 bucks and maybe 1 control arm is 100 bucks. He’s the smart one
@@benjaminfisheriv9340you wear out your tires because the bushings in the control arem allow play ...no alignment in the world can fix that, also you run risk of sing steering control in severe moments avoiding crash or loss od stability on rain hydroplaning and ice... not to mention reduced braking ...
But hey, I'm sure you'll use that money better in your next life...
@@1truthseeking8 Bushings are also swappable. You're making this to be an enormously bigger deal than it actually is. I would bet a significant sum that old control arm with new bushings + new ball joint is going to be exactly within spec on both camber, caster and any other significant metric. Not to mention golf 4 comes factory with swappable ball joints.
My local parts stores dont even carry opel parts, how would I replace it?😂
@@benjaminfisheriv9340It's a Daewoo Lanos, a Control Arm is like less than 60€, this isn't US ridiculous prices. Your labor paid hour in autoshops are already a joke being so high let alone parts. lol
A ball joint shouldn't be more than 15€
У нас в России, делают так же кирнят, не много сверлят. Потом ложат шарик от подшипника. И давят гидравлическим пресом. Вылетает на ура
А что потом взамен ставить? Если оригинал идет в сборе
@@mistermuhutya2583меня всегда интересовал этот вопрос .
@@mistermuhutya2583аналогичный, только под болты
@@HowAreYouPeople а с чего ты взял что мы умеем делать бомбы?
@@HowAreYouPeople так на видео такой же нищий, но из страны 404)
Шайбочки хорошие получились😊
@@user-qr5nv4rb8j а если резьбу нарезать )))
Use cobalt drill bits with drop of oil. Expensive but worth it 👌
Thank you very much for your valuable advice 👍
opel! engineering at its finest X)
Always interesting video's - I might sharpen that drill 🙂
Thank you
Советский молоток 🔨 не заменит не один импортный
“Why did my tie rod and rack ends cost me $400?!?” All you gotta do is show them this hahaha
😅
Same experience
are tie rods and rack ends not the same things?
Lol just had a guy come in with an ancient AMC arm with one of these, he wanted the bushing on the other side
Не поверите - на Opel заклепки с центровками идут с завода
Air hammer works better
Just a grinder, hammer and chisel needed. Done way faster. Air chisel even. Don't even have to remove lower control arm.
That’s how it’s supposed to be done. Great job.
Thank you very much
Я конечно извиняюсь)) но проще взять шарик от подшипника 9-10мм и выдавить эту заклепку на прессе.
Спасибо большое, будем внедрять 👍😀
А если нет пресса?В гараже не у каждого он есть.
Get a cut blade and make a T or a cross. Chisel each quarter off. And then hammer out. Sometimes the drill bit gets burnt up or takes too long. Looks like you have a good one
Thank you
Use a angle grinder they will be off in half the time or less
Cudos to this dude. If it was me i would've gotten hella frustrated then crack under pressure and given up.
thank you friend 👍
I've done a ton of those over the years, it's cheaper/faster for the factory but a pain in the ass for us. 😊
Grinder! You can get all three at once and it goes quick
I've learned that this is the only option if the vehicles lower arms are no longer manufactured or are more expensive than the labor and parts required here.
Sometimes it's more cost efficient to replace the lower control arm, since the control arm bushes wear out as well.
Better way of doing that is take a cut off wheel cut an x on all three rivets then take an air hammer and it'll just slide the top of those rivets right off then you just poke them out put in the new ball joint
Man, he should have pressed out the old bushes and replaced them too, and 6 hours later thats like a brand new arm, i mean he could have sand blasted and re powder coated the arm just for effect but 2 days is pushing it id say :D
I liked the part when he replaces the ball joint.
Thank you
Surely at the point the ball joint is worn, the bushes won't be far behind. Sure if it was a bolt on unit replace the ball joint only but you've had to remove the arm to do this, just replace the arm!
Thanks YT for reminding me I need to change mine
Awesome job 👏 👍
Thank you
paid by the hour looks so much more fun
Просто шарик от подшипника поставили диаметром самого болта и под пресс. Очень легко
Это нужно снять рычаг,сверлом по месту быстрее,главное заточить хорошо.
@@pavelcarpeikin3229 согласен . Кто как привык . 👍 Просто на видео снятый .
Tbh we just change the entire arm, because when the rear bush needs replacing the new arms mostly come with a new ball joint anyway
I like how the factory think these parts will last forever. Just bolt them in,
Surgical precision
man I'm so glad my Corolla only has bolts connecting the arm to the ball joint so don't have to replace both at the same time
Все это проще делается болгаркой запиливается крест на заклепки потом
Так же зубилом сбивается заклепка мягкая а вот работа со снятием рычага доя того чтоб ремонт был дороже
Meanwhile during this car development:
- "You're gonna use rivets to fix this ball joint? What about maintenance?"
- "I'm a engineer, not a mechanic, each one with your own problems..."
That's for sure 😊👍
Just buy the lower control arm and ball joint 😂😂😂....nice video
Thank you
Can also use a part of ball bearing. Накернил вместо сверла ложешь стальной щарик от подшипника меньшего размера и ложи на пресс и дави его. Саерлить не надо меньще пыли и быстрее. This trick works very good for me
Спасибо, надо попробовать с шариком
Имел форд fusion, надо было менять шаровые опоры, купил, а там оказались заклёпки, кто мог подумать, пришлось срезать заклёпки шлифовальной машинкой, не снимая рычаги.
It's never this easy be ready to grind both sides down then be ready to chisel the heck out of it
This is good😮 i usually use a airhammer and chissel to cut off rivets but if no air available this is very 👍😮😅
Thanks a lot 👍😀
Air hammer and be careful not to damage the control arm but TO EACH, HIS OWN
Ok, thank you
Есть ещё лучше вариант, купить новый рычаг с шаровой опорой и не заморачиваться с этим😂
Hit that with an air hammer and chisel and they pop right off
I use a grinder. Mostly because my air compressor isn't large enough to really supply enough air long enough
Did Opel not foresee that these would need to be replaced? Having to pull the entire wishbone off the car just to replace a ball joint seems mad. Three bolt system would be far better.
I completely agree
Replace the complete control arm would have been a lot easier
Это дороже
Да, это дороже
More expensive BUT you get new bushings at the frame attachments … at least on my 08 focus.
@@opelservicekyivalmost 10times more expensive
this is about repairing stuff, not just parts swapping!
Wat a mission i remember doing this on a rover metro with the arm still on the car. It took ages
Меняю всю руку, так с завода заклепками идут и по одному не надо что то менять, поменял комплект и живешь пару лет без проблем
все правильно
Air hammer go brrrrr
In the rust belt they never punch out that easy
If you have a bad ball joint most likely the bushings are shot also.
You can use the brazing tip to make these cherry hot then zap them off with the air chisel. You can do this on the truck.
Good job 👏 👍 👌 😊
Thank you my friend 😀👍👍👍
Вообще все неправильно. Можно достать легко!Ничего не повредив.! Аккуратно и быстрей.
If the whole arm is available, just go that route.
Sieht nach Kadett E aus. Der Bohrer ist total stumpf, diese Bolzen sind butterweich.
We never drill those out we always just use an air chisel. Typically we do it while it's still on the car
Yeah
Oh great, I have to try it too.
@@opelservicekyiv I always notch the head both ways then chisel less effort with chisel that way
@@nashduff8465I do something similar, I'll cut the head of the rivet with the chisel in a cross pattern. Then to the side.
Маленькой балгаркой делов на 3-4 минуты.
Положи шарик от подшипника подходящего диаметра заклепки и надови прессом без сверления ! Сама вылетает .
That looks fun
Thanks a lot
At least he knows whats doing
A 4" grinder would make that simple.
Thank you
Grinder an an air chisel work good too…
I agree 👍
Schreibe nicht, dass man den kompletten Querlenker hätte tauschen sollen bevor man nicht den genauen Arbeitsauftrag vom Kunden gesehen hat. Es gibt genügend davon, bei denen man vergebens versucht, sie von etwas Anderem zu überzeugen.
Do your self a favor and wear gloves. They help save your hands from the shock of hammering.
Thanks a lot. We will definitely do it. Thanks for the good advice friend ! 👍😀
Можно шарик с подшипника диаметром болта поставить на клёпки и пресом давить . Результате шпилтка вылетит шарик продавит
Шарик металический на центр заклепки под низ головку и под пресс 100%вариант
Ок, спасибо, будем пробовать👍
They sale the hole arms.. and Ball joints at Napa auto parts 👌👍
Das ist völlig in Ordnung ,nur sollten die Bohrer mal geschliffen werden 😂 !
Daewoo Nexia ❤
That's the way to do it! 😂
That's the long way...
No drill needed.
Just an air hummer with a chisel
Нужен пресс и рука маркетолога,что бы на болтах не экономили😂
😊
I usually cut an x with a cut off wheel and then use my air hammer has the whole thing done quickly!!
En argentina Chevrolet era una de las fabricas que remachaban las rotulas a los brazos inferiores de la suspensión de las c10 no se si otras fabricas lo hacian pero era un trastorno para sustituir las rotulas despues se montaba tornilleria adecuada y asi no tener que desarmar una y otra ves pero ahora que lo pienso? quien tenia una remachadora de ese tamaño? solo fabricas y creo que lo hacian asi por una cuestion de costos, un remache vale menos que un tornillo de acero arandelas y tuercas autofrenantes , si , debe haber sido por eso ,saludos
Muchas gracias, fue interesante eso en Argentina con autos. Estás muy lejos. 😀👍
Кладете посередине клепки шарик от подшипника и давите прессом, за минуту все готово!
Спасибо, будем пробовать
Lo bonito al taladrar es ver las dos virutas saliendo parejas de los dos labios de corte de la broca. En el video sale polvo y eso es que no corta bien, ni con lubricacion ni sin ella.
Good job boys😊
Thank you 😊
Положи шарик на заклепку и под пресс, само все отскочит
재생 작업 이군요
사고가 아닌 로어암 재생이군요
"Hey let's rivet the consumable part into place so the owner has to buy the whole damned assembly and waste more raw materials at the same time!"
Fawk automotive engineers.
Ok, thank you 👍👍👍
Режу болгаркой крестом,срезаю пневмозубилом.на много быстрее но шуму больше.
These are not as easy as it looks I promise I’m stuck doing this right now
Easier and likely cheaper to swap the entire control arm. Drilling these take an absolute eternity, in my opinion using an angle grinder works best. Hard part is when half the rivet gets stuck to the control arm!!
totally agree, it's about saving money
30 vs 300 $
Poor Germans. In the US, we just go to O'Reilly's and get the entire thing replaced but not for Opel. No Opels in US.
А про прес и балгарку забыли))))
А чтобы выдавить на прессе нужно рычаг снять...... Замена шаровой БЕЗ СЪЕМА! занимает минут 15 просто нужен инструмент но он не работает без рук и головы И РЫЧАГ СНИМАТЬ НЕ НУЖНО И ТАЩИТЬ ЕГО НА ПРЕСС ТОЖЕ!..... КОРОЧЕ Я УЧИЛ ВАШИХ УЧИТЕЛЕЙ
Мастер с большой буквы 👍
Drilling steel... sharp bit, High pressure, coolant and low rpm.
Dude all the time and labor could’ve been saved by buying the whole arm
Why bother you've got the whole control arm out. Replace it. You get new bushings and the ball joint. That repair can be made on car.
Эти заклёпки прессом легко выпрессовываются
Что вы делаете!!!!
Зачем столько лишних операций?????
Возьмите шарик от подшипника подходящего диаметра к клёпке и выдавите в пресе, 3 минуты работы
Ок, спасибо, попробуем шариком
Сверла заточи !
😂
Thats one hell of a problem just to change the ball joint, just changing the arm sometimes a pain in the ass😂
thanks for the comment
@opelservicekyiv your welcome, i always look forward for your future videos since it always pop up at the time i faced the same problems
And if your control arms look like that and the balljoint was bad how good do you think the rest of the bushing could possibly be???
Just change the damn control arm