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  • @nerdatheart94
    @nerdatheart94 9 років тому +1196

    Poor Martha. She sounds like a wonderful woman. She truly understood what a child wanted in a doll, and knew how precious it would be to the child. She had a kind heart, and this asshat comes in and steals it.

    • @missdemon92
      @missdemon92 8 років тому +10

      she probably should've done that before he did... instead of sitting there and being "heartbroken".. new world order man.

    • @coreym162
      @coreym162 6 років тому +13

      @Fa Jae - I sort of agree. She was already selling them. So, she should have at least won the company from that Xavier bastard and turned the company around to the way she saw fit. Then reached a larger audience of children in need of her vision around the world. Now, Cabbage Patch Kids are tarnished. However, I do understand her not wanting to mass produce them. She could have turned them into specialty items or given the mass production rights to someone she trusted or both. Sitting on it helps nobody.

    • @Survivor58
      @Survivor58 6 років тому +18

      Corey M Her husband (seems like they really loved each other) said she wasn’t about the money but she did because she enjoyed it. Greedy people are those who only care about the almighty dollar.

    • @tgirl1762
      @tgirl1762 6 років тому +3

      Survivor 58 If she didn't care about the money why go to court at all then?

    • @Survivor58
      @Survivor58 6 років тому +21

      Latoya Burton Good question. Sometimes it’s the principle. Those who feel this way want to let those who have wronged them know that they need to pay by acknowledging they did wrong. Not everyone is a lover of money.

  • @ellekay8657
    @ellekay8657 6 років тому +680

    This is a very sad story but Look how people spoke about her, look how much family and friends loved her. That is true wealth.

    • @hoijink.9252
      @hoijink.9252 6 років тому +8

      Elle Kay yess :") im sure she was a very lovely person

    • @dt4654
      @dt4654 4 роки тому +2

      @Trantor The Troll that works if your family is rich,not so much if they aren't.

    • @sunflowing
      @sunflowing 4 місяці тому

      Money would've messed them all up. "It is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven than it is for a camel to enter the eye of a needle" true is true

  • @joonjoon2
    @joonjoon2 9 років тому +792

    You can really see what kind of woman martha was when you see the penguin doll and sheets she made for her kids.
    What a sweet lady

    • @elxchamuco
      @elxchamuco 9 років тому +4

      george clooney those were amazing true talent

    • @grungelovr5798
      @grungelovr5798 9 років тому +1

      george clooney Oh yes so true so true. Tell us more about it.

    • @RatTaxi
      @RatTaxi 6 років тому +1

      george clooney wasn't that fantastic?

    • @jorchindattorch8340
      @jorchindattorch8340 6 років тому +8

      She was precious. The world lost an awesome person when she died. RIP Martha

    • @celestetibbetts3964
      @celestetibbetts3964 6 років тому

      george clooney omg. worse than the joker my dear..

  • @jennj308
    @jennj308 6 років тому +27

    When I was little, I took a lot of comfort in my cabbage patch kids. Thank you, Martha Nelson, for giving me my first friends. I wish you had gotten your due.

  • @_beary_and_friends
    @_beary_and_friends 6 років тому +335

    When her husband started crying, my heart broke. He's right though, a million dollars can't buy you an amazing life with your spouse. Wouldn't trade my husband for anything.

    • @JeromePJr
      @JeromePJr 3 роки тому +2

      Greed is good

    • @kelliintexas3575
      @kelliintexas3575 2 роки тому +3

      She ultimately won, Hands downs! NO COMPARISON!!

    • @CharleneOrtizTraining
      @CharleneOrtizTraining Рік тому

      Me too. We've been together 24 years and married for 22. We've been through so many life challenges and life's blessings and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

  • @unashay
    @unashay 7 років тому +1277

    we need more Marthas in this world!.... Bless her heart! .

    • @timewastermohanty
      @timewastermohanty 6 років тому +41

      unashay actually we don't need more like her. We need people who could choke slam a person trying to steal their idea. Martha was too nice for this world.

    • @usedbyjesus
      @usedbyjesus 6 років тому +5

      timewastermohanty omg lol wow..someone who is business smart lol

    • @FiiDeLLaCaShFLoW
      @FiiDeLLaCaShFLoW 6 років тому +11

      I agree! But humans suck and will only take advantage of people like her...this world is only about survival of the fittest...

    • @RadioForYahweh
      @RadioForYahweh 6 років тому +9

      unashay We do they get ran over like she did and forgotten by all. she was lucky to have someone actually care to get her story out.

    • @ariglb
      @ariglb 6 років тому +1

      timewastermohanty Or someone that understands how and why to use copyright.

  • @observer1033
    @observer1033 8 років тому +782

    The dolls being placed on the front pew at her funeral is so touching and fitting.

  • @lorenamontibeller3519
    @lorenamontibeller3519 6 років тому +214

    Netflix should tells the real story!

    • @ElRosco187
      @ElRosco187 5 років тому +4

      Shit would be awesome.

  • @rachelmcdaniel8999
    @rachelmcdaniel8999 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you, Martha Nelson Thomas for your dolls that have brought so much joy to so many people. I'm sorry you never received the true credit you deserved. Even though the "Cabbage Patch Kids" were stolen from you, they were clearly your dolls and were a much loved part of my childhood in the 80's.

  • @ashmoonz
    @ashmoonz 9 років тому +709

    What a beautiful and sweet woman Martha seemed to be! I was born in 1989 and grew up with cabbage patch dolls. I always took such pride is having them until now, finding out that the dolls I had were rip-offs of Marthas creations. I'm glad I now know who deserves the true credit for these incredible dolls.

    • @sumrsolo
      @sumrsolo 7 років тому +18

      ashmoonz
      I was born in 1988 but otherwise same here and I just bought my 2 year old a cabbage patch kid wet and drink travel set for her 3rd birthday party coming up like crazy soon and I feel really bad now...I can't cancel it or take it back now. But I have that feeling of being lied to so I wish I never bought it. At least I know and I can let my daughter know this story which I'm sure that's all Martha wanted for us and herself. For her to be remembered for her true work as at least part of it and for us to have the truth. I believe she really felt bad for us all being lied to by such scum and being over charged.

    • @MelB868
      @MelB868 6 років тому +2

      The original dolls were creepy and who cares this man made them better

    • @watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691
      @watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 6 років тому +15

      Melanie Barksdale You totally missed the point... Martha didn't want them mass produced

    • @divinewords4350
      @divinewords4350 6 років тому +8

      I used to love Cabbage Patch dolls. I had 13 of them. I am an adult toy collector and after watching this, I will never buy one again.

    • @jessicapace4235
      @jessicapace4235 6 років тому +2

      I was born in 1978, and as a young child became so excited over these dolls. I had many, as did several friends. I can’t believe I never knew the history.

  • @Talibanguerilla
    @Talibanguerilla 8 років тому +309

    Hello! My name Is Katie, Im actually on my sons account. Anyway im 31 years old and just happened to stumble on to this video and I am 100 % positive I have a doll baby from Martha. I live in Illinois but my Grandmother was from Owensboro Kentucky and When I Was a baby my Granny gave me a doll that I later named bimbo. Bimbo went everywhere with me as a child. I also owned Cabbage patch dolls, but only because they looked so similar to my beloved bimbo. I always assumed bimbo was a cabbage patch doll but always wondered why it wasn't signed on its bottom... Now I know why!!! This is so sad to know that this woman was ripped off by xavier. My reason for posting this comment is only to let the family know that I loved my doll bimbo and still treasure this doll today. I'm glad to know the real story behind my doll. Thank you Martha for making my childhood special! 💕

    • @Kpoper4life
      @Kpoper4life 6 років тому +10

      Great story, I just can't believe you called your doll Bimbo, though it's understandable.

    • @KateCarew
      @KateCarew 6 років тому +23

      Omg
      My Grammy and I used to go to the Berea Kentucky art fairs every summer (living in northwest Ohio) and I remember she gave me one of these and I was a damn ingrate!! It was probably 1984(?!) and I was sooooo not having this "fake" cabbage patch doll polluting my collection of purebreds I banished it to the bottom of my stuffed animal pile!! I was only six so what did I know? I knew the velveteen rabbit so I didn't throw her out but I certainly did not appreciate her either...lost her a decade later when my room flooded. All at once I feel guilt and sorrow and damn do I miss my Grammy!!
      Martha, Grandma, I AM SORRY!!! 😭

    • @KateCarew
      @KateCarew 6 років тому +11

      Hey, bimbo is a great name :) it just means little boy in Italian! Girl would be bimba and they are the ultimate terms of endearment ❤️💕❤️

    • @drunkenfish6274
      @drunkenfish6274 6 років тому

      Jacob Sago that doll is worth thousands.

    • @davidturbo8566
      @davidturbo8566 6 років тому

      Rahmstation not really ,they’re really not worth that much but will definitely go up in value...

  • @AnnaM-mr9pg
    @AnnaM-mr9pg 8 років тому +950

    I used to work at babyland (cabbage patch kids original store) and I can definitely vouch that Xavier has copied everything this woman stood for, he knows it too. All the workers knew it. I found it heartbreaking, so if anyone ever asked, I always told them the truth.

    • @RPSteve
      @RPSteve 7 років тому +30

      Anna Manning Well there's no way I'll ever work at the Baby land General Hospital! And I think Xavier Roberts is a huge arse!

    • @parismarksvlogs8016
      @parismarksvlogs8016 7 років тому +11

      Anna Manning omg omg I wanted to go there for a year i can't believe you was a noruse there

    • @everythingispain8433
      @everythingispain8433 6 років тому +2

      Well, fancy finding you on UA-cam, best friend

    • @everythingispain8433
      @everythingispain8433 6 років тому +1

      LMAO PLEASE FONT JUDGE MY OLD CREEPY PASTA VIDEOS FROM FRESHMAN YEAR I JUST STILL USE THE ACCOUNT

    • @amirablue.b186
      @amirablue.b186 6 років тому

      Wow that's so cool I've always wanted to see that place too

  • @crazychick
    @crazychick 6 років тому +5

    I can still remember my original Martha doll as a child.... This was a beautiful story of a beautiful woman!

  • @kelliintexas3575
    @kelliintexas3575 6 років тому +88

    Well she may not have made the Cabbage patch brand but generations of children were made happy due to her creativity & love she sent out into the world! Those doll babies were the inspiration behind millions of childrens happiness, dreams, mental escapes for childrens in hospitals, foster care, abusive homes, broken families and children wiith out friends. That I think was worth more then anything. She eventually was compensated, but I tend to think when she got to heaven there was a big golden star next to her name!!!

    • @ragantate3995
      @ragantate3995 Рік тому +1

      Gold star next to her name? Heaven isn’t a kindergarten grade chart.

  • @accountname2476
    @accountname2476 9 років тому +1064

    This actually made me pretty sad :(

    • @DamonCassada345
      @DamonCassada345 9 років тому +30

      A million cabbage patch kids are crying around the world.

    • @miketv2331
      @miketv2331 9 років тому +6

      Cindy Swadling Does it make you sad when DJs use samples from other artists? Pantyhose dolls were a meme in the 1970s...nobody "owned" the idea, & everybody was free to profit from it.
      DJs, on the other hand, directly steal original creations from artists, & then profit from them under the pretense of having created something new.

    • @miketv2331
      @miketv2331 9 років тому +2

      readyrepairs Sorry... did I disturb your moment of sadness over fucking panty hose dolls?

    • @himynameischarky7185
      @himynameischarky7185 9 років тому +1

      Cindy Swadling me too but it didn't destroy my love 4 cpks

    • @ladygirlblah
      @ladygirlblah 9 років тому +8

      Miriam Moore from this point on, i am team garbage pail kids...screw that dude....even though my fav doll that i have had for 20 years is a cabbage patch kid...

  • @qjelly6087
    @qjelly6087 9 років тому +904

    Lol on his Wikipedia page it says he's an "American artist, businessman, and thief"

    • @MarianMetanoia
      @MarianMetanoia 9 років тому +88

      That's fantastic.

    • @iknowmewhoareyou2615
      @iknowmewhoareyou2615 8 років тому +13

      +luis mejia does it really? gonna check it out now!

    • @missdemon92
      @missdemon92 8 років тому +24

      but why they keep calling him an artists... he didnt make those

    • @PikachuProductionsPIKA
      @PikachuProductionsPIKA 8 років тому +17

      +missdemon92 well he's an artist because he made the newer ones so he's artist

    • @missdemon92
      @missdemon92 8 років тому

      Pikachu Productions
      oh

  • @handmiadenofgod
    @handmiadenofgod 9 років тому +332

    Awe, Martha :(
    He may have stolen her idea and desecrated her art, but I'm sure he'll never take away the joy she brought to her community with her creations. He's rolling in millions, but Martha was far richer in spirit.
    Long live craftswomen!

  • @elizabethcrossley6853
    @elizabethcrossley6853 6 років тому +70

    If it wasnt her idea he would have stolen another idea. He was an opportunist. Im glad she got recognition in the end

    • @denaturner8871
      @denaturner8871 5 років тому +4

      Elizabeth Crossley it wasn't her idea... all but the adoption part, that was hers.

    • @urielarriaga3075
      @urielarriaga3075 7 місяців тому +1

      Sin duda Martha era una mujer muy maternal y tierna tengo una pequeña colección de cabbage ahora las valoro mas

  • @she_sings_delightful_things
    @she_sings_delightful_things 6 років тому +40

    WOOOOW!!!! I love how she turned her children's drawings into toys!! 😍 That is insane cool, what a talented, sweet lady!!!!

  • @PlsWaLuigiDomMe
    @PlsWaLuigiDomMe 9 років тому +1668

    Someone should make a movie based on this

    • @eileenrodriguez1297
      @eileenrodriguez1297 8 років тому +5

      +Ann Riba totally

    • @Mrbrbusby
      @Mrbrbusby 8 років тому +19

      They already did. Run Totem through UA-cam. Starring Natja Brunckhorst. Same concept: Anthropomorphism.

    • @PlsWaLuigiDomMe
      @PlsWaLuigiDomMe 8 років тому +1

      Mrbrbusby .busby Thanks

    • @IntoBlackHouse
      @IntoBlackHouse 8 років тому +71

      +Ann Riba If you want to see a movie about something similar, watch Big Eyes

    • @Agforever12
      @Agforever12 8 років тому +8

      +IntoBlackHouse that's what I was going to say!! We watched that movie in art class, and my friends said I looked like, Janie.

  • @SimplyGameplayNews
    @SimplyGameplayNews 9 років тому +597

    R.I.P Martha

  • @Hera8334
    @Hera8334 9 років тому +250

    What a horrible man. She seemed like such a lovely sweet women who made affordable dolls for kids that weren't as well off. But that man only made them for profit and greed. May her soul rest in peace.

    • @EkAks
      @EkAks 6 років тому

      Hera Kereopa I remember that my dad paid almost $33 with my birthday money I got.

  • @MonicaSpauldingfreelance
    @MonicaSpauldingfreelance 6 років тому +21

    I can't even finish watching this. The stories Xavier told about his, "discover, idea" of the dolls, has me livid! Him, a sculptor?! 😡

    • @denaturner8871
      @denaturner8871 5 років тому +1

      Monica Spaulding-Mott the stories these people are telling about her inventing them is making me mad too!

  • @samanthablank6726
    @samanthablank6726 5 років тому +13

    Martha and her husband seem like such amazing genuine people! ❤️❤️ happy to hear others say such amazing thing about her! Cabbage patch dolls were my entire childhood and it honestly breaks my heart knowing I played with them and the owner wasn’t given the credit for them. My boyfriend is a artist and I know how hard someone works on their craft!

  • @annah371371
    @annah371371 8 років тому +366

    sounds like she passed peacefully and her life was celebrated. .. i bet it won't be the same for Xavier Roberts.

  • @mokulenable
    @mokulenable 8 років тому +374

    I'm not an emotional person normally but I lost it when he started to cry talking about his wife passing.

    • @mariahlongest7465
      @mariahlongest7465 8 років тому +22

      Mokulen Chan me too. The love and admiration he had for her was beyond crystal clearly apparent in that clip. It also showed when they displayed that adorable picture of home holding one of her dolls she made. He had that little doll in his big hands, held out in front of him and he was looking at that doll with this face that totally gave away how much he absolutely ADORED his wife! That picture was beyond adorable and cute! Also, the picture with the two of them holding their doll doppelgängers that she made for them, complete with matching outfits and a scruffy yarn beard, balding head and a pair of his glasses on his doll was absolutely precious!! This man truly loved his wife beyond what words could describe. My heart broke for him when he started to tear up and say how important she was to him and how much he missed her. Definitely a prime example of soulmates and being lucky enough to find your other half! What he did for her wedding was very kind and sweet - he knew how much her dolls, art and results of her creativity meant to her and to all of her loved ones. That was a very unique and special way they could all celebrate her life and passing together. They're all so lucky to have such important and personal items to remember her by and be able to keel a very sentimental piece of her close to them at all times. Must be comforting when they need her to have those things close by!!

    • @beautyandtheoffbeats
      @beautyandtheoffbeats 6 років тому +8

      I started tearing when I saw the dolls at her funeral.

    • @Survivor58
      @Survivor58 6 років тому +1

      Mokulen I know right. I thought I’ve always wanted a love like that. Even though I won’t have one I hope others may. That happens when people are deep down kind and put each other first.

    • @livingreallife3277
      @livingreallife3277 6 років тому

      I felt the same way.

  • @marcosreyes3873
    @marcosreyes3873 7 років тому +657

    There should be a movie made. To give her a voice, and let the truth come out to all the cabbage patch kids owners and the kids from the 80's who had one to know the real story behind the doll.

    • @maryannemmery2101
      @maryannemmery2101 6 років тому +11

      Marcos Reyes yes , like the McDonalds movie, where it talks about how THAT went down.

    • @MARSHAJAN1983
      @MARSHAJAN1983 6 років тому +11

      That's a great idea...there should be a movie made about Martha.

    • @maryannemmery2101
      @maryannemmery2101 6 років тому +10

      There IS a movie made about the McDonalds, it came out last year, it is shown on Netflix at the moment and it shows what actually happened and how etc. it's called "The Founder".
      I still agree and believe there should be a new movie about Martha!
      For example, I didn't know the story until I accidentally ended up here through a recommendation and the story is reverting and it's unfair the world doesn't know the real story/truth

    • @shanesmith906
      @shanesmith906 6 років тому +2

      Marcos Reyes I agree 100%

    • @gliesecooper8526
      @gliesecooper8526 6 років тому +1

      Agree!

  • @kevin.710
    @kevin.710 11 місяців тому +1

    Although she passed I wanted to say I hope Martha knows I personally appreciate what she was trying to do. I love my cabbies like my own children but knowing the idea was stolen hurts my heart. Thank you for this beautiful thought, know that although it wasn’t what she wanted her idea is greatly appreciated and loved. ❤

  • @picklerick9036
    @picklerick9036 6 років тому +6

    Bless his heart....his love for her is so pure, and beautiful.......Martha your dream lives on sweetheart...so modest

  • @TaraDobbs
    @TaraDobbs 6 років тому +211

    After watching this video I realized I had an original Martha doll. My grandmother commissioned it when I was born in 1980. It had brunette hair, baby soft pink dress with ruffles and a bonnet to match with cotton pink booties. I have since lost the doll in my move from Tennessee to Washington state cause my father disowned me; giving away all my belongs. Wish I had a photo of the doll so I could find it again. I would recognize it in a hurry if it ever came on ebay.

    • @charissseburchett8353
      @charissseburchett8353 5 років тому +6

      Sorry that happened 😔

    • @dawnaldridge2993
      @dawnaldridge2993 5 років тому +2

      Look up MN Thomas dolls on ebay. The heads are on there.

    • @user-qu5ju9ph2y
      @user-qu5ju9ph2y 5 років тому +3

      Reddit is the place to go for this

    • @denaturner8871
      @denaturner8871 5 років тому +1

      Were you told that it actually came from this lady? Or was it a doll that looked like these but couldn't be confirmed that it was from her line?

    • @WowJustWow37
      @WowJustWow37 5 років тому +4

      Tara Dobbs my mom had one made for us by an older black lady from the south and got us cabbage patch dolls the next year. We always loved the hand made ones more!

  • @GeorgiaGeorgette
    @GeorgiaGeorgette 8 років тому +885

    I just want to share an idea I've had for anyone wanting to get rid of their Cabbage Patch Kids after seeing this video. Anyone not wishing to profit from ill-gotten gains could donate their doll to a charity shop or even better they could be sold in order to raise money for cancer charities in memory of Martha. That would be a fitting tribute to her.

    • @amirablue.b186
      @amirablue.b186 6 років тому +21

      NotMostGirls that would be a wonderful idea to save children's lives to because there are a lot of children fighting cancer hope someone takes you on this and find a way to start it

    • @Survivor58
      @Survivor58 6 років тому +5

      NotMostGirls Excellent idea.

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 6 років тому +3

      Amira Blue.b, thank you, I appreciate that. I think it could potentially be beneficial and a way for something positive to come from something negative.

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 6 років тому

      Survivor 58, thank you, that's nice of you to say.

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 6 років тому +1

      Lanky Kong, I agree with you.

  • @para-mentischannelbypiggsy4240
    @para-mentischannelbypiggsy4240 9 років тому +204

    Difference with Martha's doll is they where made with love.

    • @lillyfbennett6423
      @lillyfbennett6423 6 років тому +4

      That made each one unique, the 'C P's were ugly because they were clones, not creations. A child could look for one that had the personality that suited them, then they would love it too.

  • @NatalieNightwolf
    @NatalieNightwolf 9 років тому +1497

    Wow what a jerk for stealing Martha's idea. Horrible person but they won in the end, like he says, they had a good life. The man who stole her idea has money, but is probably a miserable, lonely, liar.

    • @karlaarana6999
      @karlaarana6999 6 років тому +51

      very true, im glad martha wasn't concerned for money

    • @JaymeSplendid
      @JaymeSplendid 6 років тому +44

      Natalie Nightwolf welcome to AMERICAN capitalism 101...smh....

    • @jorchindattorch8340
      @jorchindattorch8340 6 років тому +33

      Natalie Nightwolf That's what I'm thinking. If he has it in him to enjoy that dirty money guilt-free after all the steaming lies he put out there, I can only pity him for his emptiness and lack of humanity.

    • @badideabearcub2747
      @badideabearcub2747 6 років тому +5

      Incubus Grey But at least they bought the rights to make her in the US. Although for years the company had an official story that the face of the doll was inspired by the wife of the founder of Mattel, which wasn't the truth because she had the same identical face that the original German version had.

    • @watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691
      @watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 6 років тому +7

      Karma bites hard.

  • @denaredford6701
    @denaredford6701 6 років тому +10

    She was a artist who loved creating sweet dolls . Bless her heart .

  • @KraftyKreator
    @KraftyKreator 6 років тому +4

    I feel for her widower, he still misses her. They truly had a lovely connection we all wish we will have-- well the vast majority. Thanks Vice.

  • @ahhhndy
    @ahhhndy 8 років тому +743

    This pisses me off, and I've always felt that Cabbage Patch Kids were way over priced.

    • @femaleenergy7715
      @femaleenergy7715 6 років тому +2

      andrea i agree!!!

    • @EkAks
      @EkAks 6 років тому +1

      Very true

    • @vivihutson5285
      @vivihutson5285 6 років тому +1

      andrea they are

    • @jeffcressey2502
      @jeffcressey2502 6 років тому +2

      of course they were, but everything is companies will always charge what the market will bare.

    • @eps3154
      @eps3154 6 років тому +3

      I'm only halfway through. Please tell me her estate sued him into oblivion.

  • @VICE
    @VICE  9 років тому +676

    The dolls were originally invented by a Kentucky artist named Martha Nelson Thomas, but the design was stolen and transformed into a multi-billion dollar franchise. Martha never saw a penny.
    Read: *The 'Haunted Dolls' of Ebay*: bit.ly/1PHZxMM
    More *American Obsessions*: bit.ly/American-Obsessions

    • @vernonsza
      @vernonsza 9 років тому +23

      VICE Never saw a penny? The video said she settled out of court.

    • @tyfishmcwar5393
      @tyfishmcwar5393 9 років тому +14

      SunriseInTheMidwest I would agree with that statement especially when she said "My Children could go to collage."

    • @benisturning30
      @benisturning30 9 років тому +5

      I do not feel sorry for her.

    • @flamedrag18
      @flamedrag18 9 років тому +6

      VICE I don't see a patent for baby dolls....so it's not really a stolen idea, they've been making baby dolls for centuries, possibly millennia....

    • @therealaim-9xmissile
      @therealaim-9xmissile 9 років тому +20

      VICE I just hate when people steal other people's ideas seriously that is just bs I don't like dolls but I just don't like why people do this stuff still I like learning from these videos very shocking.

  • @Dani-dw9ux
    @Dani-dw9ux 9 років тому +80

    If Martha was still alive I would have wanted to meet her. As many artist she never got recognized for her art and I respect the fact that when she settled the plead with the cabbagepatch man she didn't want money but justice

  • @Fatbby
    @Fatbby 2 роки тому +4

    As someone who has been wanting to purchase a cabbage patch soft sculpt and research so much about the dolls and NEVER SEE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. I can’t believe it. And I am heartbroken. Martha Nelson Thomas thank you for your creation in this world! You are not acknowledged enough.

  • @thetoastpleaser
    @thetoastpleaser 4 роки тому +3

    Bless Martha. I never knew this story and I'm so glad to see it. Those dolls in the pew at the end nearly made me cry.

  • @Tennantphile
    @Tennantphile 8 років тому +275

    I had a cabbage patch kid. Still do. Time to cross our Xavier's name and write Martha

    • @selkhiali6461
      @selkhiali6461 8 років тому +21

      you better burn it

    • @sumrsolo
      @sumrsolo 7 років тому +25

      This has to be the best comment in my opinion regarding this video. True that. I cried for these people. My childhood was a lie. We went with the wrong dolls and knew them as from the wrong person.

    • @LissiKinz
      @LissiKinz 6 років тому +17

      Except the CPK was mass produced. I wouldn’t insult her by placing her name on that.

  • @GlitterNglitzDollz
    @GlitterNglitzDollz 8 років тому +237

    is it bad that i cried when the husband talked about all the dolls being in the front pews at her funeral ? because i think thats so cute and also so sad :(

    • @shannonwalkling95
      @shannonwalkling95 6 років тому +6

      I started tearing up when he was saying how he missed Martha :(

  • @baker3person
    @baker3person 9 років тому +42

    that is so sad. I hope martha recognized how greatly her work affected people

  • @mondsafari
    @mondsafari 6 років тому +2

    I adore this woman. She brought so much love and joy to her community and lived a fulfilled life with her partner right by her side. I'd take that over millions of dollars everyday

  • @hannahwills7253
    @hannahwills7253 4 роки тому +12

    wow, I wasn't expecting to be crying by the end of this. It's horrible what Xavier did but Martha sounds like she was a great person and had a great life despite what he did

  • @engelwyre
    @engelwyre 9 років тому +376

    Martha Nelson Thomas touched lives, Xavier Roberts touched wallets.

  • @emanon-
    @emanon- 8 років тому +558

    Martha's dolls were way cuter tbh. Cabbage Patch kids scared me when I was a kid

    • @zebragirl1012
      @zebragirl1012 8 років тому +64

      They both look terrifying

    • @lolololololololollolololol6858
      @lolololololololollolololol6858 8 років тому +4

      Natalie Carley horrifieng

    • @andrea-fj6tt
      @andrea-fj6tt 8 років тому +1

      Natalie Carley ... LANA!

    • @C00kii0
      @C00kii0 8 років тому +13

      The CP dolls were effing creepy as all heck.

    • @jacintatarenta7531
      @jacintatarenta7531 7 років тому +14

      Yeah, that's true. The baby dolls are easier to handle. Honestly, I'm still scared of the CP dolls today!

  • @rushi927
    @rushi927 9 років тому +31

    I am glad Vice was able to tell her story...

  • @katty.s
    @katty.s 4 роки тому +8

    “Martha and I had a wonderful life together. It wasn’t elborate but it was wonderful. I’m not gonna trade in that life for a few dollars.”
    What a great way to sum up that up.

  • @janireguardado8507
    @janireguardado8507 6 років тому +18

    She sounds like such a wholesome sweet angel I hope she’s resting peacefully 💖

  • @reem930
    @reem930 8 років тому +282

    Well shit. Now I feel like an ass for being obsessed with cabbage patch dolls as a kid. I had like upwards of 10. If only social media was a thing back then. He never woulda survived after it came out that he stole the idea from a sweet little lady. There woulda been like a freakin go fund me for her haha

    • @stephaniesanchez6151
      @stephaniesanchez6151 6 років тому +15

      reem930 eventually twitter would do its thing

    • @beautifulhotstonespa964
      @beautifulhotstonespa964 6 років тому

      reem930 pp

    • @virtuitousvampire9371
      @virtuitousvampire9371 6 років тому +2

      I was always jealous of the kids that had them. Not that my parents were poor, but they just didn’t get what the fuss was about. I guess I’m glad I didn’t get a piece of capitalism that early in life.

  • @poop-bf4fs
    @poop-bf4fs 8 років тому +106

    Poor Martha. Also Rest In Peace Martha

  • @qoaa
    @qoaa 9 років тому +448

    My mom has an original doll baby from Martha. My mom absolutely HATED cabbage patch dolls, totally ripped off stolen idea and was shittier quality as cabbage patch was made by foreigners in Chinese sweat shops. Not by true high quality made in US by a creator who loved it and put every ounce of love in every stitch

    • @atomixfang
      @atomixfang 9 років тому +16

      qoaa hahaha implying things made in the us have "true quality".

    • @shereehamrick6966
      @shereehamrick6966 9 років тому +9

      qoaa ummm.....at least some of the Cabbage Patch dolls were manufactured in Amsterdam, NY USA. Several of my relatives worked on them.

    • @ritzlarka
      @ritzlarka 9 років тому +7

      qoaa During the 80's the dolls were not, to my knowledge, made in China. The political issues of the time wouldn't have really allowed for that. The big push to move work overseas, I believed, gained momentum in the early/mid 90's.

    • @TheBlueCerulean
      @TheBlueCerulean 9 років тому +2

      atomixfang I assume you're from some shitty third-world country.

    • @atomixfang
      @atomixfang 9 років тому +7

      Tywin Lannister Try again. I guess that is the only thing your american brain can think of.

  • @amieakalove
    @amieakalove 6 років тому +2

    Far as I see it is that Martha made my childhood happy.. it may have had that dudes name on it but all of us little girls would have never been so happy to have that kind of doll in our arms if it wasn't for Martha. So she got to let us experience the joy she got out of the dolls without having to spend millions to do so or deal with the headache of all the celebrity that people think is what's important in life. So I say thank you to Martha for letting the little girl me be so happy to fall asleep with my little baby doll which I for now on call my doll bc I know the proper name and who really brought them into the world.
    P.s. Martha was very lucky to have you as her husband. I can see you love her. God bless you. I'm sorry she was taken from you so soon and I wish for nothing but the best.

  • @madisonstephens5945
    @madisonstephens5945 3 роки тому +3

    A pew for the dolls was such a beautiful idea

  • @aarmauforever7811
    @aarmauforever7811 8 років тому +266

    that man should have been arrested

    • @anneshields2010
      @anneshields2010 6 років тому +10

      Yeah that’s copyright I bet if someone did that to him he’d be quick enough to sue

    • @chinchillahats4907
      @chinchillahats4907 6 років тому +15

      Anne Shields he did. He put a $30 million lawsuit on the makers of Garbage Pail Kids trading cards. So the makers had to alter their appearance. This man is a criminal for sure.

  • @dorenemellene2201
    @dorenemellene2201 8 років тому +102

    May Martha Nelson Thomas Rest In Peace. I have a Cabbage Patch Kid that is marked with Xavier, and it's going to burn. I don't want to buy anything from a thief. I send my condolences to her husband who obviously loved her very, very much. Thanks for sharing this video.

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 8 років тому +8

      If you didn't actually burn the doll and still have it, why don't you donate it to a charity shop or sell it online and give the proceeds to a cancer charity? That would be a fitting tribute to the original and rightful creator.

    • @dorenemellene2201
      @dorenemellene2201 8 років тому +6

      NotMostGirls - I haven't burned the doll. Actually, I've been so busy with everyday life. I just forgot about it. Thanks for such a great idea, I will give it for charity.

    • @jonbar76
      @jonbar76 8 років тому +1

      +Dorene Mellene. don't been it its just a doll made by a bad person 😑😑😑

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 8 років тому +1

      Dorene Mellene, oh I'm so pleased :-)

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 8 років тому +2

      howto42 How will that help anyone?

  • @teresasimpson5143
    @teresasimpson5143 9 років тому +32

    I actually worked at Toys R Us at that time. We had to keep the dolls in the security room and people didnt get a choice as to which one they got.
    This is such a sad story; I will never look at a Cabbage Patch Doll the same way again.

    • @RatTaxi
      @RatTaxi 6 років тому +1

      Teresa Simpson I never knew it was so bad that u got whatever they gave you! Pretty crazy.

  • @nuthinmuffins5073
    @nuthinmuffins5073 6 років тому +33

    I wish I'd known about this before now, because I never liked Cabbage Patch dolls, and now my perspective on them has been changed entirely. Now, every time I see one, I will remember this story and, in just a doll, see: this beautiful woman's artistic expression of love and warmth, the way one greedy man took advantage of her unique creation, her commitment to the integrity of her creation, the sincerity of those who loved her and admired her soft sculptures, how wonderful it must've been to be a child and receive one of her dolls... There's a whole story I will now recall whenever the dolls are referenced. I'm choosing to see this as an example of the karma ultimately received whenever someone like him chooses such a course of action. He may have made millions and got credit for the dolls, but history will give credit where it is due, and, whereas he's had to live with the guilt of having built a fortune on a lie and theft of someone else's talent, she undoubtedly lived a happier life because it was free of an underlying deceit and full of simple joys. There are some things money can't buy, and those things are the source of real happiness. I'm glad someone went to the effort of sharing this story, and I'm glad I happened to watch it.

    • @GeorgiaGeorgette
      @GeorgiaGeorgette 3 роки тому

      Beautifully put. Heartfelt best wishes to you.

  • @abipach6677
    @abipach6677 6 років тому +147

    I can’t imagine my art being ripped off and marked as someone else’s. Sadly this is still going on in the art community. Artist whether they’re traditional or digital, are having their art STOLEN.

    • @sonofhibbs4425
      @sonofhibbs4425 6 років тому +9

      Happens more than you know.
      There were a couple stories about how some Etsy artists had their ideas ripped off entirely by some corporation. Hardly anything was changed, but some wealthy company stole their ideas and ran with it. Made shit tons of money from an artist who never got compensated for it. All any of these companies have to do is take a look at the sea of artists and their creations on these online websites to choose their next money making idea. Hardly anything legally can be done about it.
      It should be illegal to steal artist’s ideas.

    • @fernforwood3989
      @fernforwood3989 5 років тому +2

      Hard enough to be an artist.

    • @SykotikShadow
      @SykotikShadow 3 роки тому +1

      But NFTs are BS

    • @hawkeyeten2450
      @hawkeyeten2450 2 роки тому

      Heck, movies are being ripped off as well. Disney ripped off nearly a whole scene or two in Soul from A Matter of Life and Death, a British film from 1946. Some Europeans on Twitter noticed the similarities and actually posted side by side stills to show how close they were. Sadly, this is still hardly known in America, apart from those of us who saw the Tweets.

    • @karaeverman1164
      @karaeverman1164 Рік тому

      As a real artist myself having so many ideas all the time, is really a blessing and those ideas commonly get taken and changed or made better. It’s kind of part of being an artist giving ideas to the world, or sharing your ideas.

  • @funtimetv897
    @funtimetv897 7 років тому +155

    The scientific term for that is plagiarism

  • @emmyjeanhasacamera
    @emmyjeanhasacamera 9 років тому +4

    Martha's dolls are beautiful and so was she. Thanks for sharing her story, Vice.

  • @Rachctor
    @Rachctor 8 років тому +69

    Rest in peace, Martha. So sad.

  • @1021ladyvamp
    @1021ladyvamp 6 років тому +2

    Thank you Martha for creating the doll that made me so happy. I know the mass market doll isn't here but if it wasn't for her I wouldn't have my doll so thank you.

  • @lansdale26
    @lansdale26 5 років тому +6

    May Martha rest in peace. This is just a beautiful thing that made me cry.

  • @zoeykillah
    @zoeykillah 9 років тому +83

    why am I barely hearing about this?
    This is not ok :(

  • @angelunawares316
    @angelunawares316 9 років тому +79

    The REAL Mr. and Mrs. Claus! God bless them. Xavier Roberts is a sad excuse for a man.

  • @clittle10301
    @clittle10301 9 років тому +27

    This is sad! But, its also very inspiring! She kept creating and enjoying her creations regardless of who got the credit. She was an amazing person. I also enjoy making dolls and giving to others. I've had a hard go at life. But, I hope I can be more like her and continue doing good and serving the Lord for those around me.

  • @insignificant6088
    @insignificant6088 2 роки тому +1

    I really enjoy learning these kinds of stories... Even though it's years later it's important to know and acknowledge the truth

  • @user-qo4nu9ze8d
    @user-qo4nu9ze8d 6 років тому

    Martha surely was a lovely and humble person, her baby dolls were clearly a representation of this; having that sweet home made and indeed quirky style. Bless you martha you beautiful human.

  • @chriswieman
    @chriswieman 9 років тому +10

    A sad and interesting story; kudos to Vice for telling it.

  • @erikaavila8597
    @erikaavila8597 8 років тому +31

    I have utter admiration for Martha. It's a shame bad things happen to good people. This Xavier guy on the other hand really boils my blood.

  • @PhntmStudios
    @PhntmStudios 9 років тому +83

    its fucked up that the world will never let you prosper on your own ideas and craft without them stolen. RIP Ms. martha.

    • @EatShiteAholes
      @EatShiteAholes 9 років тому

      +LXRYLXRYTV FUCK money. She didn't care about that shit. She was happy doing what she was doing. What else is there??????

    • @iknowmewhoareyou2615
      @iknowmewhoareyou2615 8 років тому +2

      +vomittie I was thinking the same thing. I now see the need for patents. patents, patents!

  • @apokont
    @apokont 3 роки тому +5

    This story can sum up the whole of human history.

  • @bundleofdaisies7523
    @bundleofdaisies7523 6 років тому +7

    14:22 goddamn... i'm chocking up. That's real love man... I really might cry

  • @BushidoBrown76
    @BushidoBrown76 9 років тому +62

    But then this dude probably got all pissed when the Garbage Pail kids came. Irony. No more of that "Hey that's just how life life works"

  • @MiladySteph
    @MiladySteph 9 років тому +14

    When he cried, I got a lump in my throat and really teared up. He reminds me of some of the nicest customers and people I knew from working at my dads vacuum and sewing machine shop. I think people like them are so warm, and loving. I wish I knew them personally. What a sad story for poor Martha. Nice people are seen as weak sometimes, and get taken advantage of because of it. I had to learn over time to try to stand up for myself. But even now, whenever I'm in a confrontation, I feel panicky, and usually just say sorry. Weather I was wrong or no.
    I thought it was quite ironic, and satisfying to see that thief sitting there, maintaining he was the creator, and that SOMEONE ELSE stole HIS idea! What a laugh.

  • @emwhyay182
    @emwhyay182 6 років тому +3

    When her husband started crying 💔 What amazing people. RIP Martha!

  • @pinkjt34
    @pinkjt34 6 років тому +2

    Thank you! I guess because cabbage patch kids were part of my life, this story is very important. So my thanks to her for creating them. And im sorry she got ripped off. Nobody deserves that

  • @carlikate65
    @carlikate65 6 років тому +1

    I love learning stuff like this. I also love humble people. may Martha Rest In Peace 💕

  • @indoororchidsandtropicals358
    @indoororchidsandtropicals358 7 років тому +15

    Wow, I now feel like kind of a jerk for having cp dolls as a kid. That said, playing with my cousin and our cabbage patch kids are some of my fondest childhood memories and while our dolls were a stolen idea, I feel gratitude to MARTHA because she contributed to all those memories I wouldn't otherwise have.

  • @2HootHoot
    @2HootHoot 9 років тому +141

    This reminds me of that time when the native americans lost their land because they didnt have proof they owned the land.

  • @itsjay1313
    @itsjay1313 4 роки тому +3

    I had one of Martha’s dolls when I was a child and never knew the difference! I wish I knew then what I know now!!!

  • @ants5845
    @ants5845 6 років тому

    Oh Martha, you made so many children and families and those little angels so very happy and blessed!
    May you rest in peace Martha

  • @GlennaShaw
    @GlennaShaw 6 років тому +13

    My grandma from West Virginia made dolls like these back in the early 60s.

    • @denaturner8871
      @denaturner8871 5 років тому +4

      GlennaShaw many did... even before then too... I'm out here in the comments typing furiously trying to educate people about this!

  • @RobinFlysHigh
    @RobinFlysHigh 5 років тому +9

    Martha's husband reminds in looks a lot of my dad who passed away in 2014. Let's hope he is still around, and may Martha rest in peace

  • @justinluc2572
    @justinluc2572 8 років тому +86

    This had me HEATED

  • @tuesdaypatience
    @tuesdaypatience 6 років тому +1

    I would have loved to be able to tell Martha that a sweet lady who worked at the nursing home where my grandma worked for forty years created hand-made dolls that had that sweet unique feel of Martha’s babies. I still have mine...she has such an adorable personality. Those babies - sold at the nursing home craft sale to raise money to donate - would have made Martha smile.

  • @hankelly552
    @hankelly552 6 років тому +1

    What a beautiful couple, poor lady but she obviously lived a wonderful happy life. Inspirational!

  • @tantanjafin
    @tantanjafin 9 років тому +45

    This needs to spread worldwide. This controversy isn't even on Wikipedia

    • @sjrhollywood1347
      @sjrhollywood1347 5 років тому +3

      Yes, it IS! From Wikipedia:
      Though Xavier Roberts is the creator of the Cabbage Patch Kids brand, many of the brand's defining characteristics, such as the dolls' overly round faces and that they came with an adoption certificate, can be traced back to Martha Nelson Thomas, an American folk artist from Kentucky. Before Roberts ever became involved in the toy industry, Thomas created and marketed her own line of dolls, called Doll Babies, which she sold at local arts and craft shows and markets. The two crossed paths at a state fair in 1976 and Roberts began purchasing her dolls to sell at a profit at his own store in Georgia. Thomas eventually confronted Roberts about his unethical business practices and ceased to sell additional dolls to him, prompting him to turn to a manufacturing company in Hong Kong to mass produce dolls similar in appearance to Thomas' at a cheaper cost to him. Thomas brought suit against Roberts and eventually settled with him out of court for an undisclosed amount in 1985. She and her husband, Tucker Thomas, told the press that she was more upset by the corruption of her dolls, for which she cared deeply, than the money she'd lost as the result of Roberts' actions. Thomas died in 2013, at the age of 62, with her most favorite dolls attending her funeral alongside her family members and friends.

  • @keishbaker1942
    @keishbaker1942 6 років тому +4

    This was tragic yet beautiful. She seemed like such an amazing person..obviously very loved.

  • @matrixiekitty2127
    @matrixiekitty2127 6 років тому +5

    That’s just tragic! That interview of the cabbage patch man was infuriating! How dare he steal away Martha’s idea!

  • @QuackersJackers
    @QuackersJackers 6 років тому +1

    My mother was just like her. She could make anything and never even knew she was an artist!! She just wanted to make people happy and enjoy herself just like Martha. I hope they meet each other and all the other lovely artists at a big craft table in the sky!

  • @brigland3726
    @brigland3726 6 років тому +2

    Who doesn't love this man when he tears up at the end talking about his wife.... Tears in MY eyes too. God bless these sweet people. Karmas a Bitch and Xavier Roberts is paying a hefty price I'm sure!! I had one of these Cabbage Trash dolls as a child. Wow... Had no idea.

  • @JessyBee1313
    @JessyBee1313 9 років тому +4

    I've seen other soft-sculptured dolls growing up in the 80s...some were made by seamstresses, some were quite possibly Martha's own design. I often thought that maybe they were knock-offs of CPK. I'd even met "Dr. Roberts" at the 25th celebration. No one else even knew who he was. Hearing this....my heart breaks for this family. CPKs were dolls that my sister and I LOVED. Not ever going to forget those sweet memories, but now...I just...yeah. I don't think I could ever look at another one. Martha's babies have so much more character about them. I hope those that adopted her babies still own and love them...and this is why copywriting is SO IMPORTANT!!!

  • @trinitybertinelli552
    @trinitybertinelli552 5 років тому +3

    What a nice sweet person Martha was!!! rest in peace Martha

  • @leiajiang7877
    @leiajiang7877 5 років тому +52

    Is is just me or does the husband look so much like the doll baby.

    • @S4NDYisNOTavailable
      @S4NDYisNOTavailable 4 роки тому +2

      Leia Jiang he does lol!

    • @chrisms_96
      @chrisms_96 4 роки тому +5

      Yeah, it's not a coincidence. She made a likeness of him.

  • @monkeygirl19934
    @monkeygirl19934 4 роки тому +1

    I grew up owning cabbage patch dolls. I think they are cute but I honestly think Martha's doll babies are cuter. You can tell she put a lot of love into making them😊

  • @adrienneberkshire3522
    @adrienneberkshire3522 6 років тому

    Such a kind sweet woman. I am glad to know her story. I am a child of the 80s and never wanted a cabbage patch doll. But Martha’s doll babies are charming.

  • @sherribobbins43
    @sherribobbins43 8 років тому +47

    I've only run into a few people who remember this but in the early 80's you could buy a cabbage patch doll kit at Michael's arts and crafts. This was just probably months before the craze hit. My mom bought one as she is VERY talented artistically and with sewing. She made the Xavier Roberts doll from hand. I got it for Christmas and it came in the original box and had the butt signature and the difference is my mom made it. It included different colored yarn for hair and different paints for the eyes. So, my mom made mine have dark hair and green eyes like me. The expression wax a lot softer due to my moms expertise with sewing and art. She often made tons if beautiful fills snd they had clotted to match mine as well.
    I hate that Xavier. Roberts stole this sweet woman's idea. He looks kinda coked out as he got richer so I think a lot of his money went up his nose. This is only speculation. But does anyone else remember the make your own fill kits though ?

    • @dulcieandrews712
      @dulcieandrews712 6 років тому +8

      My mom bought the little paperback book with the patterns for the body and the sewing instructions for the facial features and patterns for the eyes. They were very popular Homade dolls based on Martha's take on soft sculpture dolls (which has been around for probably a few centuries)
      By the time we went to the craft store to buy more of that flesh toned fabric to make a second doll there were the kits you mention with iron on eyes in 3 blue, green and brown.
      This was probably a good year before the cabbage patch craze began.
      It was evident to me at the rope old age of preteen that the cabbage patch kids were a mass marketed version of the doll pattern my mom had bought from Cloth World.

    • @brandygee9954
      @brandygee9954 6 років тому +3

      I remember the kit being at the fabric stores in the 80s.

    • @sarahherr7601
      @sarahherr7601 6 років тому +3

      My mom refused to buy us the CPKs and made ours from a kit, but I think they were actually under Martha's name. I remember you could buy the heads separately (a bit creepy). I'm thinking you had to buy the fabric and stuffing and use a pattern to build the body? At the time, I thought these homemade dolls were inferior to CPKs.

    • @ink3539
      @ink3539 6 років тому +1

      We always tend to disregard homemade products, the brands are sadly, very appealing Xx

    • @Cece46654
      @Cece46654 3 роки тому

      @@sarahherr7601 Yes, she did put out a "Doll Baby" kit with a head and you sewed the body yourself. I literally just bought a 1984 one off of Ebay today. 😊