How P*rnhub Fuels Human Trafficking | Laila Mickelwait | EP 83
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- This episode was recorded on July 5th, 2023.
Laila Mickelwait, the Founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund and the visionary behind the Traffickinghub movement, boasts over 15 years of dedicated research and activism against sex trafficking, establishing herself as a leading expert in the field. As the driving force behind Traffickinghub, a global initiative targeting Pornhub, the world's largest pornography website, Mickelwait has garnered immense support, with over 2.3 million people signing a petition to shut down Pornhub. Her social media efforts, attracting over 300 million views, and collaboration with 600 organizations have sparked extensive media coverage globally, drawing attention to the platform's alleged facilitation and profiting from child abuse, sex trafficking, rape, and criminal exploitation. Mickelwait's academic background includes a Master of Public Diplomacy degree from the University of Southern California, and her impactful work has been featured in numerous prestigious news outlets worldwide.
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- Chapters -
00:00 - Coming Up
00:56 - Laila Mickelwait: Activism Against Pornhub and Personal Motivations
02:14 - Exploring the Depth of Sex Trafficking and Pornhub's Role
06:24 - The Unseen Impact of Internet Pornography and User-Generated Content
10:22 - Personal Stories: The Impact of Financial and Online Exploitation
18:03 - Corporate Accountability: Fighting Against the Enablers of Exploitation
25:07 - The Global Movement: Trafffickinghub and the Fight to Shut Down Pornhub
36:05 - Legal Strategies and International Efforts to Combat Trafficking
45:09 - The Role of Narrative and Community in Addressing Trauma and Accountability
55:23 - Healing and Support: Addressing the Aftermath of Online Exploitation
I'd like to note here publicly what I assume both of these good women would affirm as well: *There is no light side of porn.*
Strange thing is nobody knows who is running a whole internet. as whole network....
We know who is owner of facebook or amazon. But people dont know who is owner of internet, to delete these sex pages.
Propbably only way is to block these sex websites...as some Amereican states completelly blocked the porn hub...
I dont know if its a Kentucky or different state but there were some news that some these states are blocking it.
If every country would block them it would be good thing....so it seeems if a user who is having short term krisis and clicks on a web out of boredoma nd is suck in for certainly innocent reasons...like loneliness, probably thanks to the state that blocks it, can not watch it.
I just researched on Google: Who is owner of internet?
"Background. No one person, company, organization or government runs the Internet. It is a globally distributed network comprising many voluntarily interconnected autonomous networks. It operates without a central governing body with each constituent network setting and enforcing its own policies."
Its not surprising that nobody is running the safety issues and ethics, voluntarily or non-voluntarily.
It´s interesting that hackers are hacking vulnerable people but can not hack these companies.
When a hacker wants to pretend something "sketchy" things and hack someone´s twitter account, its easy
but its so hard to hack some sketchy companies to "pretend to be decent" human.
Tammy, thank you for bringing this conversation to the forefront, including how very harmful the diminishing of Motherhood and children is. Bless your journey with the Lord and walking the path He's laid out before you.
Feminism has completely destroyed motherhood. It’s not about women it’s about man hating.
Tammy I grew up in the 60s and 70s got married in 86 am 62 yrs. Old 3 children 3 grandchildren under the age of 7 all girls.the sweetest kindest vulnerable little angels. My dad was a police officer when I was groing up and we lived in the north bay area between Santa cruz and Oakland. He was a csi guy and one day I think I was 9..I went snooping around as kids do and I found a file of pictures he had brought home from work to study durring a case he was on. All rape murder vicvictims in a feild. He always hid that part of his job from us pretty well. That day was the day I saw and felt real fear and evil. When I had my 1rst child my dad was still on the force I had a girl. He said if we were ever outside don't for 5 seconds ever turn my head from my daughter that she could literally be taken and sold or sacrificed etc...not once growing up as a girl did my dad ever show that truety of what he knee. But he always had his eyes on us kids. He's 92 as sharp as the day he was born. Prays daily for his 19 grandchildren 11 great grandchildren for God's protection and wisdom for their parents. I remember growing up my dad was the church choir director as well as a cop he would go out on calls that involved my freinds family members from church. Evil is nothing new but the power of the evil one seems so much more in our face! Thank you for putting this out here.❤
Jesuits
I hope you take part in regenerative medicine.
I’ve recently turned 60. When I was 19 years old I watched the documentary Not A Love Story which was a first hand story of a stripper from Canada and the sex trade she grew up in. I tried to push other girls at the time to tell others of this documentary and try to organize and stop this. Only faced with laughter. So here we are 40 years later and the hungry dog has turned into a beast. What are we gonna do about this ladies? Sign me up. 🙏🏻 God bless you both.
I grew up in the scary strip club industry in Ontario. I never heard of this film thanks
@@POLYLIVING The movie was made by the NFB. It features Lindalee Tracey who was a popular stripper in Montreal. She also wrote a book, Growing up Naked. It’s actually very well written and what I would regard as an anthropological study. As a young stripper, she was between the two worlds of ‘the art of striptease’ which was considered old and dated, and the ushering in of The Grind--when the Montreal Mafia bought up the strip clubs. She talks about the beautiful woman who is told by the club manager she just ‘can’t pull it off’ anymore because her age is showing, and the time she and another stripper were snuck into a men’s jail to perform and a riot broke out and they just escaped.
@@winskypinsky Wow! I know the feeling! I was in MTL training for a trucking opportunity in July so I hit up all the clubs. I was told at one of them that I’m “too old”. I told the manager him & the owner were pathetic losers looking to control little girls and that I knew the only reason they denied adult women is because our experience, standards and expectation was a discomfort to their precious egos😂I look forward to the read! Thanks so much!
Nobody wants to believe this stuff because the average person is addicted. I've been an outspoken critic of this industry since 2015 and lost most of my friends over it. Now their kids are getting hooked on it too, and the parents dont care. "They're gonna see that stuff at some point, it's not harmful you prude" is a typical response I've received. I'm just lost at this point if parents dont care about the sexualisation of kids. What can I do?
They don't care, or they're naive, or they're tools helping normalize it. Gen x was mostly willfully ignorant and handed their 7 year olds devices. Millennials know what's up. They've been exposed from birth. They're completely tech savvy. But they're at a crossroads: embrace the normalization and perpetuate it or get radical like homeschooling and going screen free until their children are 18. There are phone services that are basically dumb phones with texting only. Fight for your own conscience and soul and for your children.
Absolutely. I'm desperately trying to stay away from it. It crosses my thoughts multiple times a day.
It definitely does harm. It completely alters the chemistry of your brain and burns out your dopamine and causes anxiety, ED and depression. That's excluding the unreal expectations men.
Yep. I struggle to keep away from it. It truly is an evil industry.
Watch and pray
Call CPS.
It’s not just the money it is also the demand of the users. If there were no users there would be no pornhub.
DA ?
Obviously. I think we all understand that.
The government legalized porn back in the past. The government should bann it. Porn is illegal in some countries!!!
Thank you both. This "industry" makes my stomach turn. Deplorable. I don't see it getting better... there are so many sadists being cultivated "groomed" across all cultures in the world and too many systems in place to enable them.
Thank you Tammy for bringing this unfortunate topic to light. We must keep working to shut down these companies
Thank you for continuing to host such important discussions on your platform. I am certain you are doing mother Mary proud.
It does. Horrible stuff and whole generations of men are hooked to it.
And women are addicted to porn not just men.
This story needs to be told so thank you ladies for sharing
I came across an interview on UA-cam of a woman who was lured into doing a "video" against her will. Basically she was kidnapped and r*ped on video. And the "company" that was responsible edited it to look like she signed up for it. This happened to many women over a long period of time. After watching this interview i was obviously disgusted at these people, and also myslef for even viewing p*rn in the past. Listening to her recount her story was gut wrenching and infuriating. But after that i havent struggled with p*rn. I know its sad that it had to come to that to wake me up. The name of the interview is "I was s*x trafficked by GirlsDoP*rn part 1."
yes and she expresses that she tries to get it taken down and creeps just keep uploading her rapes. This ruins women's lives and their families all too often. It's is sick how violent and just using women's bodies for men's pleasure only. Nothing nice about it and teaches pure objectification and nothing about relationships but lies like with all the incest genres YUCK 🤮 SO UNHEALTHY
I just looked at that video 😢 poor woman. People are insane in the world.
A necessary conversation. The title implies there is another side to porn other than “dark” and there clearly isn’t.
Thank you Laila and Tammy 🙏🏼
Leila is incredible. I’ve followed her work and it’s amazing to see her interviewed by Tammy.
Poetic justice: An arsonist (a victim or their parent) recently sent their warm regards to the multi-million dollar home in Montreal, being built for PH's founder.
Ladies, thank you for fighting the good fight.
Men are used to as consumers like spending money on some sites...in new video of "fight the new drug" channel
the former model of only fans explains things. people are brainwashed.
it seems loneliness is used in a way.
Being alone can be good thing if you want to do sport or read books etc.
The channel "Fight the new drug" is against shaming men, or women, who use these sites as consumers..
because as psychologists explain shame is forcing them to continue doing it.
It seems if men will not be blammed but will be understood, their feeling of loneliness or boredom,
then its good way to change the society for better so men will find a better way and these sex companies will not have such success, if men change their mind and stop their addiction.
Keep up the great work and GOD bless you both 🙏
57:14 Dear Tammy, You and Jordan alike You have very Big good hearts that You expose t
o the evil that is in the world, and this in a public manner to nest out it's perverse logic. This is hard and dangerous. But I am sure that we, SO many, sure that You both made us love You, well, i'm sure many pray for your hearts to keep strong for all humanity to see, feel and heal together with You and Jordan. Peace and, strenghth and joy to your hearts. And endless thanks. From Nazareth, Belgium
Laila, your mourningprocess about your father was exemplary succesful. I mean, You may still hurt and ache to talk to him and SEE him and the like. But He is You now. He lives not only in You but through You.Your father could not be more proud with such a daughter. Whatever he might have blamed himself for in life -and who doesn't, right, objective the issue or not - You have vindicated for him that this great man, your father, is fully honorable and worthy in all senses of the Word. Why? Well, simple, we only have to look at his daughter to know that with certainty. Bless You woman.
It is still true that if a woman or child kills their abuser they go to jail for much longer than if the abuser kills his victim.
It’s so very sick. They HATE women & children.
@@chilloftenI love the gynocentric way you view at things. You do realize that there are disparities in sentencing outcomes, right. Women receive lighter sentences than men.
Not to mention the unfairness of no-fault divorce lmao
🥱 go make me a sandwich, Andrew.
That's true for everything nowadays. The perp always gets a lighter sentence than if someone was protecting themselves. Doesn't matter what the situation is. There is less incentive to protect oneself, and more incentive to rob/kill/abuse innocent people. Is that what you were trying to imply? If so, kudos
No morals is snowballing.
Who makes it?
Who consumers it?
Why is it o.k to distribute it?
Who benefits from people watching it?
What are the effects of warching it?
What are the effects of performing it?
The old model of Porn was once an expensive exercise.This kept a lot people out.
Tristan Tate spoke about this.
He said that when he looked into the recent porn industry, he found all these guys abusing females on camcorders in sheds.
Tammy, you air the best guests 🌹
This needs to be talked about more
Tammy. I feel your tears and cry them with you.
We are going to fix this. We are...
Thanks for talking about this
So important
Happy Mother’s Day, dear Mrs. Peterson.
I have the same question. Why??? Children!!!!
Genevieve Gluck carries much info on the darker sides
Please interview her too
She is a brilliant researcher.
On the other side of the coin, when I was young, I worked for a porn production company(vehicle matinance and security)I was amazed that the phone rang off the hook after midnight. Women, married, single, of all ages, pros and first timers wanting to make a movie....... got out quick
Very good interview Mrs Peterson.
It certainly breaks my heart and I had my own 14-year-old daughter and 19-year- old here listening as well.
As a father l have spoken to younger people in our society and part of my job I've employed them and how they have changed even from when I was going to high school in the mid 90s.
I truly worry for my own children especially when it's time for meaningful relationships and marriage.
P*** has done a lot of damage!
And this is in Australia Queensland you would think it's better here but it's bad everywhere.
Thank you ❤ So much. This agonizes and motivates me daily.
Time to shut this crap down!
Great point...I never realized that whoever supports these websites should be in trouble, such as credit card companies and banks etc.
59:03 not to "move on" so much but to truly find enough recovery and healing to move forward with our lives. Moving on may be impossible, but moving forward in our lives is essential to our survival ❤
There used to be a loop hole in youtube.
They would say the name of a video and the date and nothing else.
So it would say video from 12.3.20 for example.
When you searched for videos like these types of videos it was all kids.
The people that were into this stuff knew how to look for these videos.
It was a whole subtext of culture.
Hammerhoff an Chomsky sitting in tree
Same people make your children's an game designed phycology whoa is me
@@DannyDanny-rn7ck ?
@@cultivateyourself don't understand your question and or comment
@@DannyDanny-rn7ck I don't understand yours.
What is your point?
I just wanted to say:
I'm so happy for you Tammy 💓
Cheers to you and your family. Jordan probably saved my life, i was prescribed valium for 17 years and it was a nightmare not comparable to ANY life experience. It's been 14 months with no medication and.. ughhh :(
The problem is how corruption works, if people can find a way, they do. Many blindly claim there's a problem with any heirachy/institution (very rare but sometimes...) instead of the problem being much more nuanced and it's 99% psychopaths (well, dark triad..). They ruin everything.
It’s extremely difficult to hear this as a mom.
Going to go sign now
It pains me when i think like this but they go for kids because they're cheaper
No God no hope. Know God know hope. Our children are our greatest achievement. These women don't fully understand what is going on our have any real solutions for the sake of the US or any nation of the world. I would love to speak them. They have great potential 🕊️💚🙏☘️
Merci de votre courage❤
Odd tag. Is there a light side to the pornography industry?
Where parents of all these porn people. This is horrifying tendency for people of the future. Porn destroys people.
Devastating and demonic.
Its not breaking your heart Tammy its helping heal the flood from way back.
👀🔙⌚🍀🦍
I was thinking, who is this woman with all of Jordan Peterson's affectations, then I saw the name. Just for the record I don't know whose affectations they were to begin with, but it is quite remarkable.
Sickening
I'm against money grubbing litigation in most cases, but this!!!! Sue them left, right, and center.
signed and shared
Abuse, effect of it on the victims it's life long sentence.
It's shocking how low sentences are for rape.. While victims life in life long destruction...
I was sexually abused at 20 old. 20 years later I never get married I was single forever.
I never trusted any man again, I lost my studies my job due to effect of it... Trauma nightmares insomnia, depression, crying everyday all day every day for years from flashbacks of abuse... It never ends, that's how trauma works. And abuser ? Never been kept accountable, never any consequences. His living well and healthy abusing more women.
😢😢😢❤❤
I don't understand how is this even legal? How?
Dont forget the possibility if the internet just industrialised it
I don’t know what happened. I remember the old days only soft core was allowed and after Janet Reno signed then it unleashed everything public instead of a password wall like it used to.
“Dark side of porn”? Is there a bright side?
Not any more. Years ago porn had 'normal' sex - so to speak -, videos on there. If you open pornhub today.. ALL the videos popping up are about fcking her up the a*s. All of them... 🥺 sad what young people are being normalised into ... 😥
It's horrible. It's so hard to find a husband now because it seems like every man is addicted.
Although it is a personal decision a man must make to not veiw, there is definitely an element of his wife being willing and available so there isn't even time for it...... since he is overwhelmed with the real thing😊😊😊
You'd be surprised how many women watch porn. Slim pickings out there on both sides hun
I believe the worst thing about having your rape filmed is not that others see it but reliving the total helplessness, the shame of feeling like you are less than nothing for being treated this way. Even worse, having no one you can turn to that you can trust.
WHO brings us the porn in the US? It doesn't come from outside the country. When one sees the common denominator with the porn industry and does a little homework, one can learn the WHY of the porn industry. That WHY is the reason pornography was illegal in the US for so long, and reason sodomy laws existed. Porn exists for one reason and one reason only - SOCIAL DEGRADATION. So that's the WHAT. Now learn the who and the why.
Jesuits
Wow....
No block chain
I'm hopeful that I can make a positive difference in this domain. I'd like to take a class on theology of the body. I got hurt from the sexual revolution. Snapchat came out the year I was a junior in HS and was lost because of my neglectful upbringing. I thought I was careful enough but 10 years on and I'm realize how dangerous I was acting!! I'm so thankful I didn't take it any further than I did.
If you didn't pitch children as data commodity
Maybe people wouldnt think they could bleep them
Turning into a debt slave on a double entry accounting ledger is dehumanization
1 billion of them perpetually
Changing the name is a typical movement, keep going and add the new partners in Evil. Porn is an evil that will never be held accountable but depriving them of income is a way to slow them down.
Anyone using block chain an Jim Heckman equation cost offsets I can't take seriously period
Tammy are you the actress on Practical Magic? This is all news to me. I had no idea
There's a light side?
Pornhub isn't the only porn site on the internet so what about the rest of them out there?
Porn simply needs to be outlawed. This would fix a ton of problems.
Haha that was mine to
If you take you cant take it all but if you give you find all 2s
5:39 And women became props.
Now that the A.I. technology has evolved to practical standards, what the Justice Defence Fund could do to efficaciously achieve its primary goal would be to contract a tiny little team of AI experts to develop a software program (sic) that could create true-to-life pornographic cartoons, which look like actual real actors, but are not real actors.
Then they could market the software to porn creators at the lowest kind of not-for-profit prices, so that Pornhub could stay in business, along with the professional contributors, but using AI actors rather than real life victims.
So no one gets hurt, but sneaky boys can still explore their sexual fantasies, or other people's if they have underdeveloped imaginations. After all the purpose of porn is to assist people to manage their sexual fantasies, and not real life sex. So porn does not actually require real life actors now that AI has evolved so far.
I think this would actually work, but there would be an increase in addicts, the level of addiction, and hermits. This is sad for typical single modern men because they are probably not going to marry or breed from this addiction, but it's the married and marriageable men who worry me. This stuff bends the mind and has long-lasting side effects, especially with niche or sadist videos.
I'm disturbed by how young the viewers are nowadays. It's not good for them to view even the fake stuff. The parents are failing them, so we're at the point where we need to consider protecting them against their parents' wishes.
Ideally, none of this content should be available so easily. The old school stuff was difficult to find pre-Playboy. It was better that way.
People have their own imaginations if they need to self-relieve their itch. Other than that, marriage is the best option for love and sexual passion. At worst, there are adult sex workers for men that are undesirable or perverse. Maybe it should be legal and regulated or licensed (as funny as that sounds).
Underage and abusive content should not exist for moral and ethical reasons. We need to discourage and punish the craving for children and adolescent children. Too many people are indifferent or in denial of human trafficking.
@@IntrospectiveHousewife Thanks for your detailed reply. I was waiting for Laila to cross onto the subject of viewer victimhood but as far as I remember watching, she seemed to remain focussed on examples of underaged actors and victims of production.
Then there are the viewing victims, as you mentioned, They're another matter but I have to gix a tap washer now so no time to reply at the moment. Thank you for your reply.
Thats how to figure out fight flight freeze and flow you cant stop a crime unless the time being says so
🦍⌚🌊🍀
Stormy - must be a calm belt in the apple-core of a hurricane
My mind is aside with 55 of working hours -Fifty Five
Very complicating - With New-Generations There-are New-Times for the Same-Old ruin
Someone stole 250k of my parents money and I find them you can bet I’m getting the money back or the thieves hope I am.
🙏
Signed!
Couldn't they just shut down the sites with the cooperation of the credit card companies?
not for something this profitable.
It’s a sickness.
9:21, a new reason to not like Quebec.
8:57, interesting
9:03, Montreal is not really Canada
Canada is not really Canada
@@ML-ov7wo it is not a healthy Canada when the word means village.
And the "light" side of Porn would be?
And just in time for crypto
Very beautiful eyes ❤
its about time that everything in my head was made legal
which side of porn is dark?
I AM BI (before internet)
U are AI (after internet)
CGJ
Exactly
Is there a light side of porn?
I don't get it. Why is prostitution illegal and porn is legal? What's the difference. I think I might know. Porn is and Industry, a Big Business that a few can control. Prostitutes are freelances that work independently, the government can get taxes out of porn production companies, not so easily from street hookers.
People are still watching porn? They’ll never reach enlightenment.
Oh, go away.
Someone's a happy wanker.
*Every time I visit Xvids or the hub, I see multiple girls on there that don't quite look old enough to be on there* 🕵
8:53, interesting
8:44, interesting