i have always thought of england/briain/the uk as just a great power.. never really thought that far back to realize they were just a bunch of tribes that survived rome.. and then slowly became a nation. amazing.
Wow, as someone who has done a great deal of study on this specific topic & trail down the centuries from Alt Clut to welsh royalty in the Kingdom of Gwynedd. Very well researched.
Love the video and the kingdom of Alt Clut/Ystrad Clud/Strathclyde, and I have a strange love for the place. However, slight nitpicks. Romanisation wasn't nearly as widespread as you demonstrated. While britons in the home counties and the south coast were romanised, most of the midlands and north of the UK aside what was highlighted was also mostly free of Roman cultural expansion - and there were even britons that lived in areas like lincolnshire up until the 800s. I might also suggest that while the fortress was called Alt Clut, the kingdom took the name Ystrad Clud (valley of the Clyde). The Hen Ogledd is pronounced Hen (a female chicken) Og-le-th, The dd welsh sound being most similar to the english th. Govan as well, I've been been reliably told by my glasweigan nana is pronounced Gouwen or something similar to the locals. I dont think the kingdom was destroyed and rebuilt, the royal family was still the same and they simply moved the state aparatus away from the coast to Govan to avoid raids. The siege of Alt Clut also lasted 4 months, as the Briton defenders only gave up when their water either ran out or was poisoned. It is also helpful to know that Cumbric is an evolution of old welsh, and is linguistic family to Welsh, Cornish and Breton. Cumbria (the modern county) was apart of Alba until after 1066 an invasion by the Northumbrians. The Cumbrians, and Yr Hen Ogledd as a whole also had a great impact on place names. Our very own capital of Edinbrugh gets its Gaelic name Dùn Èideann comes from the Cumbric Caer Edinn (caer and dun being the welsh and gaelic words for fortress respectively). St Patrick also came from Alt Clut and its surrounding area so there's that. Still! Despite my complaints its an amazing video on an area of Scottish history I wish more of my countrymen knew of! The cultural blending you mentioned at the beginning has always been apart of Scottish identity, and the lowlands have always embodied this with Anglo, Gaelic, Pictish and Cumbric influence. Tapadh leat 😊
It could be that we underestimate Roman influence. The extent of it is simply unknown, but I will present my case. Picts were purely above the Antonine Wall, ie the temporary outer frontier of Roman occupation. Below that border the people of Ystrad Clud were far more similar culturally to the Welsh within Roman control than their direct neighbours the Picts. The Picts who were also Celtic but far different to any Celtics living under Roman occupation, in fact being more similar to the Irish and the Scots from Dal Riada who would eventually undergo ethno and culturogenesis alongside them to become the medieval and modern Highlanders. This could be a coincidence (ie because the Picts were mountainous they were simply just a different culture to the ancestors of Ystrad Clud and Gododdin in the first place), however we could also reasonably assume that Roman influence through trade, religion, that brief period of occupation, whatever, played a part in this. It is also interesting when you notice the Lowland Scot/Highland Scot cultural and linguistic border was essentially also the Antonine Wall, with the Lowland influence eventually expanding to Aberdeenshire, failing to penetrate the more inaccessible parts of the Grampian range westward. This Lowland Scots language being created by the conquest of Gododdin by the Northumbrians and spreading into the more arable regions.
After the battle of Carham, Garlic spread south to roughly the present border influencing Placenames. Northumberland was squeezed between the the Scots and Viking York. The Davidian Revolution saw the founding of the abbey and the burghs. Scots spread along with trade and influence of Flemish landowners and traders eventually reaching Shetland.
Llanark / Llanlithgow are two examples of the Welsh (Cumbric / britonic) languages in play today, in an around the Glasgow area. The double LL’s were dropped in modern times. If anyone ever wondered why the Glasgow accent is so much harsher, and noticeably unique amongst Scottish accents? It’s due to the Welsh influence. William Wallace? Wallace means Welshman. 🏴🏴 don’t tell Independence activists this information though. They will crumble if they found out that Scotlands most populated area were 1) Britons 2) Saxons in Edinburgh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️🇬🇧
ua-cam.com/video/tSMiWQaq9yQ/v-deo.html Wouldn't it be that Alt Clut lost its eastern portion to Bernicia, instead of the western? Still, am very interested to learn more about the peoples of pre-Scotland...
Just curious.. My last name is Clyde, I know my grnadfather caem from Scotland to Canada and he told me our original name was strathclyde could that be right?
If they lived by the river Clyde at some point yes. But they likely weren’t the ruling family of strathclyde. Strathclyde translates to lives by the river Clyde
I go to Wikipedia or Brittanica and use the sources that they have cited. This does take a while to go through them but it’s a sure fire way to find something
Firstly, there’s no such thing as ‘alt’ it doesn’t mean anything. The word you should use is ALLT ..(two l’s in Cymric make a sound that comes from the side of your mouth) Secondly, ‘Clut’ is not the wrong word. ..it means diaper in Cymraeg. The word is CLUD, with the U being said with your tongue out. It means ‘tranquil’ or ‘cosy’ So Allt Clud ‘s direct translation is Hill Tranquil…there’s no rock there…none. It was the land of the Gwyr y Gogledd , the Northern Free Welsh Caledoniaid ( hard ones) who spoke our beautiful language. 👍🏴
i have always thought of england/briain/the uk as just a great power.. never really thought that far back to realize they were just a bunch of tribes that survived rome.. and then slowly became a nation. amazing.
As a scot who has lived in Strathclyde for all my life (bar my military service) and I have learned much from this video. thank you
As a Northumbrian, i see these fellas as our ancient neighbours. And many times our allies.
Pretty awesome kingdom with a interesting history.
Great video. From Biggar in Strathclyde
Wow, as someone who has done a great deal of study on this specific topic & trail down the centuries from Alt Clut to welsh royalty in the Kingdom of Gwynedd. Very well researched.
Thank you, I appreciate it! It’s good to know that this is pretty accurate
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Good wee book, "Welsh Origins of Scottish Placenames" by William Oxenham. About 7 quid👍
Love the video and the kingdom of Alt Clut/Ystrad Clud/Strathclyde, and I have a strange love for the place. However, slight nitpicks. Romanisation wasn't nearly as widespread as you demonstrated. While britons in the home counties and the south coast were romanised, most of the midlands and north of the UK aside what was highlighted was also mostly free of Roman cultural expansion - and there were even britons that lived in areas like lincolnshire up until the 800s. I might also suggest that while the fortress was called Alt Clut, the kingdom took the name Ystrad Clud (valley of the Clyde). The Hen Ogledd is pronounced Hen (a female chicken) Og-le-th, The dd welsh sound being most similar to the english th.
Govan as well, I've been been reliably told by my glasweigan nana is pronounced Gouwen or something similar to the locals. I dont think the kingdom was destroyed and rebuilt, the royal family was still the same and they simply moved the state aparatus away from the coast to Govan to avoid raids. The siege of Alt Clut also lasted 4 months, as the Briton defenders only gave up when their water either ran out or was poisoned.
It is also helpful to know that Cumbric is an evolution of old welsh, and is linguistic family to Welsh, Cornish and Breton.
Cumbria (the modern county) was apart of Alba until after 1066 an invasion by the Northumbrians.
The Cumbrians, and Yr Hen Ogledd as a whole also had a great impact on place names. Our very own capital of Edinbrugh gets its Gaelic name Dùn Èideann comes from the Cumbric Caer Edinn (caer and dun being the welsh and gaelic words for fortress respectively). St Patrick also came from Alt Clut and its surrounding area so there's that.
Still! Despite my complaints its an amazing video on an area of Scottish history I wish more of my countrymen knew of! The cultural blending you mentioned at the beginning has always been apart of Scottish identity, and the lowlands have always embodied this with Anglo, Gaelic, Pictish and Cumbric influence. Tapadh leat 😊
It could be that we underestimate Roman influence. The extent of it is simply unknown, but I will present my case.
Picts were purely above the Antonine Wall, ie the temporary outer frontier of Roman occupation. Below that border the people of Ystrad Clud were far more similar culturally to the Welsh within Roman control than their direct neighbours the Picts. The Picts who were also Celtic but far different to any Celtics living under Roman occupation, in fact being more similar to the Irish and the Scots from Dal Riada who would eventually undergo ethno and culturogenesis alongside them to become the medieval and modern Highlanders. This could be a coincidence (ie because the Picts were mountainous they were simply just a different culture to the ancestors of Ystrad Clud and Gododdin in the first place), however we could also reasonably assume that Roman influence through trade, religion, that brief period of occupation, whatever, played a part in this.
It is also interesting when you notice the Lowland Scot/Highland Scot cultural and linguistic border was essentially also the Antonine Wall, with the Lowland influence eventually expanding to Aberdeenshire, failing to penetrate the more inaccessible parts of the Grampian range westward. This Lowland Scots language being created by the conquest of Gododdin by the Northumbrians and spreading into the more arable regions.
After the battle of Carham, Garlic spread south to roughly the present border influencing Placenames. Northumberland was squeezed between the the Scots and Viking York.
The Davidian Revolution saw the founding of the abbey and the burghs. Scots spread along with trade and influence of Flemish landowners and traders eventually reaching Shetland.
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Great stuff a few minor hiccups made in details but the overall subject was very well researched!
How is is that you think the language and culture of the Britons no longer exists? Yma o hyd! We are still here my friend.
Llanark / Llanlithgow are two examples of the Welsh (Cumbric / britonic) languages in play today, in an around the Glasgow area.
The double LL’s were dropped in modern times.
If anyone ever wondered why the Glasgow accent is so much harsher, and noticeably unique amongst Scottish accents? It’s due to the Welsh influence.
William Wallace? Wallace means Welshman.
🏴🏴 don’t tell Independence activists this information though. They will crumble if they found out that Scotlands most populated area were
1) Britons
2) Saxons in Edinburgh
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️🇬🇧
Wales isn’t even a country
King Owain would succumb to his baldness 😂😂😂
Nice video
Thank you for watching!
great stuff, thanks! btw Aethelstan became Aethelred mid-video, i think by mistake?
Oh yeah my bad, they do sound pretty similar, thanks for watching!!!
@@StoicHistorian np mate. the video is great. great editing and info overall
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ua-cam.com/video/tSMiWQaq9yQ/v-deo.html Wouldn't it be that Alt Clut lost its eastern portion to Bernicia, instead of the western?
Still, am very interested to learn more about the peoples of pre-Scotland...
Awesome! My last name is Hale....hope I'm related to R. Hael!
Oh that would be awesome, check out the short I made on him it’s called “the sword that inspired Excalibur”
Just curious.. My last name is Clyde, I know my grnadfather caem from Scotland to Canada and he told me our original name was strathclyde could that be right?
If they lived by the river Clyde at some point yes. But they likely weren’t the ruling family of strathclyde. Strathclyde translates to lives by the river Clyde
@@StoicHistorian Ohh ok TYVm
A strath is a valley in Scotland.
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Allt Clud is pronounced A-ll-t Cleed. Allt means 'summit'.
Hi it was King Aethelstan not Aethelred.
What sources do you use? Been wanting to study this kind of stuff for a while but can never find too much info
I go to Wikipedia or Brittanica and use the sources that they have cited. This does take a while to go through them but it’s a sure fire way to find something
Athelstan appears to become Ethelred when he mentions Brunanburgh. This is very, very sloppy.
The Gaelic name Alba has an interpolated syllable, and is pronounced “AL-a-pa.”
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Firstly, there’s no such thing as ‘alt’ it doesn’t mean anything. The word you should use is ALLT ..(two l’s in Cymric make a sound that comes from the side of your mouth) Secondly, ‘Clut’ is not the wrong word. ..it means diaper in Cymraeg. The word is CLUD, with the U being said with your tongue out. It means ‘tranquil’ or ‘cosy’ So Allt Clud ‘s direct translation is Hill Tranquil…there’s no rock there…none. It was the land of the Gwyr y Gogledd , the Northern Free Welsh Caledoniaid ( hard ones) who spoke our beautiful language. 👍🏴
Where is my sleep 😂
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