Thank you I finally realized that. I train the best athletes in the dmv for three years and all I had was tunnel vision on my career. I almost lost my wife and son. Then I had to realize non of this shit matters. Especially if I don’t have my family. You can always get money but you can’t get back time.
Kids may not when they are kids. But a child that has grown into an appreciative adult will. Kids don’t know the value of a dollar do why would they. And some have to work over time just to afford the necessities so it’s really not a choice.
I started my own business and it was fucking awesome. About 4-5 yrs in it started taking a toll on my mental health so i sold it. I now have a corporate career and it’s honestly been one of the best decisions of my life. I encourage anyone to do as they please but don’t discourage those that prefer the “safer” routes either. Make sure you calculate everything because business can be very rewarding but its also extremely stressful and challenging.
Reminds me of my dad, who raised 11 kids, owns a milk route, and for 20 years straight worked over a hundred hours a week just to provide for his family, and only just now finally being able to somewhat slow down for health... My life hero
I know too many fathers, including my own, who seriously regret losing time with their family by working overtime. I have an old boss who dedicated his life to his organization. I heard stories about him crying rivers on his deathbed after his wife died and he realized that relationships are so much more important than our work and contributions to society.
This is what has led me to the strategy that I have adapted in that I am working as much overtime as I can while I'm still single I will take care of the bulk of the financial burden while I'm still young and by the time I'm in my 40s I will have enough passive income to quit working and still have all of the bills paid if I am still able to have a family I will at that time because at that point I will have all the time in the world to spend with them while also providing everything that they need people complain about not having enough time or money when in fact if you spend your youth making all the money that you will need you will have all the time to enjoy it when you're older
@@Ultimusvivi if you live. if you dont become disabled. if you don't end up like millions of people who never get married. waiting until the options are either way younger than you or coming off of a divorce is not the best option in my opinion. not every guy is going to be able to get the woman who also waited to 40 to have a family.
@@BoSsCWOM of course I started late only began this journey at about age 29 if I had started when I was 20 I'd already be in a position to have a family.
I worked 60-80 hours a week, I'm now retired , wealthy, living the good life with the woman that stayed by my side, my son said he would never work like that, but he now has a family and now works the overtime to support his family. He now understands that you have to push, in order to live a life above the mundane.
I work 40 hours a week and I'm paycheck to paycheck, living the good life with my wife and kids by my side. My life is exciting and nothing mundane about it.
@@nicksavov5027Paycheck to paycheck is a terrible plan. Unfortunately, that's what the majority of people are doing and they are just living on the edge of financial disaster.
true that. I would argue tho that money can buy you more time in that you can buy better food like organic or have better health care etc which prolongs your life. what do you think?
@bobbyjoalfonso3949 Correct investing your money wisely and early on will allow you to create the ability to have those options later on in life, which is called financial freedom. One less thing to worry about.
@@harriscolton320 I understood the point completely. I'm giving my opinion on this point. Not everything that somebody says is an attack. I respectfully disagree with the way of life that he describes. There is nothing wrong with it if that's your goal. Mine is different. And so I said my opinion. Same as you.
I work 2 jobs to make 80k a year. My wife stays home for our 3 children. The only thing I struggle with is public policy causing inflation. My income means a lot less than it did just 3 years ago.
Not in my experience. Having someone to work hard for in my own space has given me discipline. Just working for myself has always given me money. I need both
That's because they spent all their effort to get money, thinking that it's everything. After they get it, they feel exactly the same as when they didn't have money. The only thing money does is eliminate unhappiness from lacking necessities. What money doesn't do is bring meaning and purpose to your life which is the source of happiness.
I'm self-employed & can relate. I was obsessed with hitting the $1m mark. I came close, but at a price! My advice, family 1st. Because one day you wake up & your kids are damn near grown
Grew up poor with just my mom, basically no family. I'd rather have 1 million dollars than the interactions I had with almost anyone. I'd be practically just as socially calibrated
To be honest sir here in my part of small town America (Arkansas), most men I know work that easily and still make life happen it's tough but we do it and it's not noticed to often but we do it for us and for our family who we see happy. Just my thoughts and opinion thank you sir
Not even close. I make 100k now I can go on trips and afford dinner celebrations. Rent is 2100 in Connecticut. 60k is almost poverty. Certainly you will never own property
It's not what you make. It's what you can keep that's the key. Don't get caught up in the yearly salary I know folks who make 250k a year but still broke or struggling. That's because they have to many liabilities and not enough assets. Their paycheck looks good but once you start paying liabilities it doesn't look appealing after all liabilities( bills) are paid.
He's talking about people like me who make $430k.yr and lost my family to work. I'm not proud of it and I wish I could redo it but the fact is I don't have good relationships with my family unless they are asking for money. I turn 50 next month and I went from being hungry and wearing worn out cloths to being a multimillionaire. I've bought houses and cars for both my daughters and my x wife tired to off herself.. I would trade it all to go back and do better.
@@OldMovieFan1973Peterson famously started filming and uploading his lectures on Personality in 2017. He didn't film much before that year, and wasn't lecturing as a professor for too long afterwards, so you have a 2016-2018 hard boundary. Especially with this sweater.
That was me before retiring. Slowly I lost my friends, my kids and my wife. I just kept chugging and NEVER looked back. Sure, I retired wealthy, live in a big house, too big for me. Now I wish I had those I loved. You can't trade in your junk for the past so be careful.
I can speak from experience, yes you can give your family more material things, but it's not worth the time and things you missed and will never get back
“Those are the people who run things.” Not families. Not relationships. Things. Cold empty meaningless things. Those are the people who run those things.
I was working a constant 62hrs then constant 75/80 with occasional 105hrs-110hrs and I loved it...I don't know why, shot from a walk-in to management and could have ran the place until I realized I had no home life. Easy to think its crazy if you're not built that way but if you are you don't realize it. Remember to analyze all aspects of your life.
This is true. Know that if you’re one of these men, like myself. My advice to you is stay out of relationships. You’ll only ruin the lives you get involved with outside of work.
My wife has learned to live with my insanity....I own an electrical business. I always wondered why I was different until one day I just stopped caring and went full tilt into my chaos. I once worked 37 days straight and loved it. Its nice to hear my insanity explained
I agree; they are usually the shitiest, most self absorbed and arrogant people you'll ever meet. In the general population, roughly 1% of people would be classed as sociopathic/psychopathic. For CEOs it's around 4%>
When you love your spouse you will follow this man to the end of earth. Top model are rarely committed to just be spouse. Now the GOAT in Football can sit back and marry a good one, a true one. He can go anywhere on the planet. He can do like Jordan the GOAT in Basketball. These husbands and wives who do like stars and celebrities are just not husbands and wives. Fame and Ressources gone , these people are gone too. A true one stays and do not make you abandon your dream. Tom will rebound just like in many Superbowls. His last relationship was like that Superbowl he lost. He will come back just like that. Not a Patriot fan but Damn, that obsession and dedication gave us the Legendary Tom Brady and the Patriots, the Apex of their era for 10 years.
No his wife was a whore who cheated on a man who was going to retire at the age of 46. 46!!!! She didn't want to wait she thought she could do better how is she doing now? Crying on the side of a road in Miami. Vs him younger girlfriend and still getting paid. He can start another family she can't her eggs are gone.
My Dad was like that when we were kids..He was always working. Always had a business. DIDN'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAID ABOUT HIM.. HE WAS A ENTREPRENEUR FOR REAL..
I worked this out a long time ago. A home is a home. A holiday is a holiday. Earning anything over £50k per year is pointless unless you own your own business. you are just giving half of ur money to the government after that point.
This, when I was young and everyone said they are gutting the middle class I didn't understand but now I do. Either make millions of dollars so that a few million in taxes don't hurt or just stay under the bracket.
Where is $60,000.00 a year is good money? When seems like all taxes combined takes about Half of the income when filing Single. Somebody know how to make that amount work after divorce, illness or job lose etc...Please tell us. 😊
I used to do 14hr days at a factory. I pushed myself with hard drugs to get through it but it all took a toll on my body. Although with the economy we're in right now the same hours wouldn't equal the same rewards. Make time for yourself and do enjoyable things instead of what I did with drugs.
You will never lose a woman , a true woman pursuing your path and what you are good at and money. But if you abandon your path, do not feed what your are good at and pursuing women, you will lose everything. Even God has Angels that are passionate in different wars. Gabriel love deliveing message and teaching. Michael love fighting. Even in Heaven they have different passion. Seraphim, Cherubins, Archangel and other Angels are passionate about different things.They run things in Heaven. Someone has to do the job and some will choose to do the job.. When someone is your soul,love you and can adjust willingly they will be there for you. A true twin and matching spirit will go through hell and heaven but still make it work. Do not get shy being good , really damn good at what you do. Go for it. If you are an eagle why will you adopt flying out with ducks and pigeons when the Almighty gave you eagle wings? Be positively passionate and reasonably dedicated. It is a crime for an eagle gifted with wings by the Highest to stay on the ground walking like a duck eating grass.
I was one of those guys, now I work to get what my family needs and spend as much time with my family as i can. Life is to short not to make memories with your loved ones
The trade off is this. When you’re in focus, you’re out of balance. When you’re in balance, you’re out of focus. When it comes to being hyper successful, you must forgo nearly everything else and dedicate all you have in terms of time, energy, money, discipline, and anything else relevant into your career. And once you dedicate everything to it, from there it’s how you go about dedicating all of those resources that truly makes the difference between you and the rest. There’s a reason why people with the same circumstances in the same businesses putting in the exact same amount of time have different results.
Yup.. I use to run things until I got hit by a reckless driver, my health crashed from depression of not being able to work, my now ex didn't comprehend and started ignoring me so I felt worse.. lots of other things happened and i got diabetes now... I very much miss the old me😢 it's a struggle now..
I like how he emphasized, that those are the people who run things. Generally of course in my opinion. But it helps you not to be fooling yourself if you truly want to make it.
45 year old working professional male here. Balance is key when you get to my age to keep a happy household. Sure work hard and learn lots when you are in your 20s and 30a so that you can start to scale work back and make a good income and spent more time with tour family. But to each their own. Just my opinion. Cheers.
the men he’s talking about can dedicate 100 years of ur life on ur craft. then the next 50-70 years u can start a family. modern medicine and technology can have upcoming generation live at least we’ll into their 150s
I have big second-category goals and a small category #1 where I am highly focusing on this category. because these goals and tough. don't chase money learn to build freedom[ it subjective to each of you}
I went through the same at work. they said why don't you work more and its like no I can take on the same work after your hours and take in more so I go home and do the same work and take my bigger cut you refuse to give me.
I worked many hours, 2-3 jobs because I had to to make a living. But I didn't enjoy it and retired as soon as I could. I can't imagine working 80 hours a week. 50-60 was all I could take and by the end of my working career 40 was too much. I barely have the energy to be retired now.
I make 50k single. Last year for 6months I worked 2 full time jobs =80hours. No wife, kids, fur babies and I literally have everything I want but now I would like to have a family. 2024 is so different than 2009.
I don't know how he knows but he is right...problem is speaking from experience you often can't undue damage done to loved ones...they will never understand or maybe even care.
It's a trade-off, I never wanted to work myself to death, but I also never wanted to have the "feast-or-famine" cycles I had when I was a kid with my father as a contractor. When he worked, times were good, when he didn't, he drank a lot and there wasn't much money. I made a conscious choice in my early 20s that, while I wanted a family, I wanted a career woman for a wife who made her own money. I absolutely wanted nothing to do with a kept wife and all the extra stress and pressure that comes with providing for a dependent wife. I decided I would rather be single than be in that situation. So...I was VERY picky with who I dated and ultimately ended up marrying an engineer. As dual income, we don't need to kill ourselves with work, so we both have jobs with normal hours and weekends off, with very little overtime required. We have lots of time to spend with each other and our kids. We do a family trip every year, we go to concerts and shows. We've done martial arts as a family since the kids were little. We wanted our kids to be able to look back on their childhoods and said, "You know, that was pretty awesome".
I’m in a career job and I’ve been in that career job for 10 years now, I started when I was just getting out of high school…I was obsessed with working and obsessed with furthering my career…when my son was born 4 years ago I missed 90% of his first 2 years because I was more obsessed with furthering my career than seeing him grow up. Those were the worst days of my life…and after I finally made it to that promotion, all I could I say was I hate it here because it gave me a job that didn’t really care about me and a son who barely knew me. It’s not worth it, trust me it’s not.
I do 80 hrs a week to boost my retirement greatly. In about 10 months that 80 hrs a week will make a big impact on my quality of life for the rest of my life.
If you work in something you really love that doesnt matter for us (like me in informatic/programming which you must be always being updated), once i finish my work, i always keep studying 2/3h, to be capable of more.. my grandma always told us: knowledge does not take space
I do it to invest excess for my future and my kids future. Inflation makes cost unpredictable, and the last thing I want to say when I can’t afford to retire is that I should have worked more OT when I was younger.
If you go from 60k to 160k it definitely has major impacts. It changes the area you live in, kids go to better schools. Potentially even private school. The people you connect with are at or above that same level so opportunities rise from it. Vacations more and to better places. Love Petersen he’s the reason I jumped into fatherhood after saying I’d never have kids for my entire adult life. This is just an excerpt from the entire lecture so maybe my thoughts are irrelevant. However if that is the stance, money changes every
It's a catch-22. The ones who worked constantly to make ends meat and get their children through school will always regret not having more precious time with their loved ones. The ones who didn't have the means to give their children the extra money they always needed/wanted but was there for them will always tell you they wish they had more things to provide for them. Most of us simply cannot have it all. Cherish what you do hhave and love someone.
If you need to work extra hours temporarily to provide more for your family, that’s understandable, but working that much all your life even when you don’t need to financially will lead you with a lot of regret. I doubt anyone on their deathbed is wishing they worked more, but I’ll bet a lot of people on their deathbed are wishing they’d spent more time with their family and friends
You spend all of that time at work, never spending time with your kids that's not successful, especially when that company decides to get rid of you just like, you're only a number to a company. Then because you worked long hours your children want nothing to do with you because you put them second. Being there for your children is a successful man
Years ago your kids will appreciate the time but Facebook, social media has made them change. I will keep working hard , so my kids understands nothing comes easy
I value my time at home a lot more than my time at work. I can't wait to punch out and run out of there without looking back. I don't care what the management thinks. I'm already giving them my time. If they want my dedication too, then that's going to cost them extra.
I worked a minimum of 50hrs a 5 day week with random weekends for my whole career. I managed to go to just about everything my son was involved in all through school until he went off to college. The companies I worked for were not really supportive. Therefore I did my job really well but I told them for example I’m taking my wife and 5 year old son to disney world. And I went. I wanted to take him while he still thought the characters were real. It was a great experience all around. That company fired me a few months later after 23 years of service. I was disappointed in that company but never disappointed in my decision to take my son to disney. That was almost 20 years ago
The guys who work 80 hours a week are missing out. I work on a relatively low salary working from home and see my daughter every day. I looked after her from infany to school, and I wouldn't trade that for anything. I've seen guys who work for the company for decades get dropped instantly the second their role becomes redundant. The company doesn't care about your investments to them. Your family do.
More money is a better quality of life if you don’t mess up your priorities. More money for me meant a better quality of life that and I and my family enjoyed, enjoy and will continue to do so
What better way for a father to show his love to his children then to provide an education for them, and help them as much as he can financially with school.... this is why most man that work 80 + hours a week do what they do and sacrifice alot, most of the time the sacrifice is the relationship, the family but his children are going to college and getting a good head start and opportunity in life...one of my bosses once told me he lost his wife many relationships, and time away from his children...but now all his children and nephews can go to any college this world has to offer...many elite top alpha man sacrifice alot and we dont do it for joy sacrifice is alot of pain and we do it for others. The sacrifice we go through we do it for others.
I love Jordan Peterson, he's been such a blessing in my life. That being said, he's clearly not an adrenaline junkie: extra income means extra activities. Downhill mountain bikes, motorcycles, kayaks, boats, snowboarding, scuba diving, skydiving, boating... all the really fun things in life cost MONEY. I can't just go out to dinner with friends on weekends and be happy anymore, not when I can go do something adventurous and then go get dinner afterwards.
That's the problem with some of our educators, they assume they know what is going on. If you pick a job no one else wants to do, you are not spending time away from family because you are obsessed, but because you had to. Even worse, some of those jobs pay better, but not enough to take vacations. It can be painful.
Your kids will never thank you for working that overtime.... They will thank you for your time...
Thank you I finally realized that. I train the best athletes in the dmv for three years and all I had was tunnel vision on my career. I almost lost my wife and son. Then I had to realize non of this shit matters. Especially if I don’t have my family. You can always get money but you can’t get back time.
I have to say time is more important that working why? Because when u work u work for some1 esle when u have time is for the familly
Kids may not when they are kids. But a child that has grown into an appreciative adult will. Kids don’t know the value of a dollar do why would they. And some have to work over time just to afford the necessities so it’s really not a choice.
@@apbt067facts the dude on top is just coping, it takes extreme discipline to do that but it also doesn't mean that your kids will be neglected.
They wont anyways so live the way you want😅
I’ve been the guy working 80+ hrs a week and I regret not doing that for my self instead of building someone else’s business
David I did the same, 2 years ago I started my own business , haven’t looked back. Go get it.
Yeh, as kjph7438 said. Put those same hours into your own business and you will conquer the world.
No regrets.
As long as you been tucking money away to build it's never a regret. Pay yourself first then pay the bills.
I started my own business and it was fucking awesome. About 4-5 yrs in it started taking a toll on my mental health so i sold it. I now have a corporate career and it’s honestly been one of the best decisions of my life. I encourage anyone to do as they please but don’t discourage those that prefer the “safer” routes either. Make sure you calculate everything because business can be very rewarding but its also extremely stressful and challenging.
@@ospremier8581what was the exact "toll" it was taking on your mental health?
Reminds me of my dad, who raised 11 kids, owns a milk route, and for 20 years straight worked over a hundred hours a week just to provide for his family, and only just now finally being able to somewhat slow down for health... My life hero
What an amazing guy. My dad is the same, i can only imagine what it's like being them
Hundert hours a week? 🤡🤡I think you need to have a Talk with your dad. Maybe he raisin a second Family idk
I mean he could have had like 8 less kids and maybe not worked a 100 hours a week and spent time with his kids....just a thought
@@logitech2010100 Christian family, don't believe in abortions
I work 112 hours a week in the oilfield it’s not that bad.
I know too many fathers, including my own, who seriously regret losing time with their family by working overtime. I have an old boss who dedicated his life to his organization. I heard stories about him crying rivers on his deathbed after his wife died and he realized that relationships are so much more important than our work and contributions to society.
This is what has led me to the strategy that I have adapted in that I am working as much overtime as I can while I'm still single I will take care of the bulk of the financial burden while I'm still young and by the time I'm in my 40s I will have enough passive income to quit working and still have all of the bills paid if I am still able to have a family I will at that time because at that point I will have all the time in the world to spend with them while also providing everything that they need people complain about not having enough time or money when in fact if you spend your youth making all the money that you will need you will have all the time to enjoy it when you're older
Jeez. What is money without people to spend it with.
@@Ultimusvivi if you live. if you dont become disabled. if you don't end up like millions of people who never get married. waiting until the options are either way younger than you or coming off of a divorce is not the best option in my opinion. not every guy is going to be able to get the woman who also waited to 40 to have a family.
It feels like today you can't even get a woman without doing that...
@@BoSsCWOM of course I started late only began this journey at about age 29 if I had started when I was 20 I'd already be in a position to have a family.
I worked 60-80 hours a week, I'm now retired , wealthy, living the good life with the woman that stayed by my side, my son said he would never work like that, but he now has a family and now works the overtime to support his family. He now understands that you have to push, in order to live a life above the mundane.
I work 40 hours a week and I'm paycheck to paycheck, living the good life with my wife and kids by my side. My life is exciting and nothing mundane about it.
@@nicksavov5027Paycheck to paycheck is a terrible plan. Unfortunately, that's what the majority of people are doing and they are just living on the edge of financial disaster.
Exactly, I would add. It takes the right spouse to support you and understand the end goal.
I’m with brother.
And tons of people get used and lied to and taken advantage of doing the exact same thing ……..
Time is our most valuable asset. Spend it wisely.
Yes most certainly
true that. I would argue tho that money can buy you more time in that you can buy better food like organic or have better health care etc which prolongs your life. what do you think?
Simplicity right here and common sense
@bobbyjoalfonso3949 Correct investing your money wisely and early on will allow you to create the ability to have those options later on in life, which is called financial freedom. One less thing to worry about.
I'd rather have a relationship with my family. Money comes and goes. But you can never get back time.
You missed his point. He's saying that the men who are obsessed with working are in more enjoyment than with family and children.
@@harriscolton320yeah kinda sad
@@harriscolton320
I understood the point completely. I'm giving my opinion on this point. Not everything that somebody says is an attack. I respectfully disagree with the way of life that he describes.
There is nothing wrong with it if that's your goal. Mine is different. And so I said my opinion. Same as you.
I work 2 jobs to make 80k a year. My wife stays home for our 3 children. The only thing I struggle with is public policy causing inflation. My income means a lot less than it did just 3 years ago.
a competitive man of this sort works this hard because they understand that money comes and goes. duh!?
It's a trade off.if you want more money, you get less family.if you want more family , you get less money.
Why not just balance it. Work when you have to work and be with your family when you have to. ❤
Not in my experience. Having someone to work hard for in my own space has given me discipline. Just working for myself has always given me money. I need both
Wrong
Na man. Start moving crack. Best of both worlds 😜😂
Or you are smart and can get both
To be fair this was probably recorded before houses and groceries literally doubled in cost...so just adjust that 60k number a bit for the times.
What would that be about you think? 80k?
@@jonathansong855100k now. If we're talking about raising a family comfortably.
@@jonathansong855probably yeah 80k. Back in 2010 I was busting my butt working over 100hrs/wk raking in around 120k year. It was rough.
its 80k now
Most people can’t comprehend that the arbitrary salary number is irrelevant.
It’s only people who have money, that say “money isn’t everything”.
Because you have to have money to know what it’s like
Ya that’s not true I don’t have money and I know money isn’t everything cuz I’m not a fool or slave to materialism
Yeh idk i dont have that much money because i believe that money isnt everything
That's because they spent all their effort to get money, thinking that it's everything. After they get it, they feel exactly the same as when they didn't have money.
The only thing money does is eliminate unhappiness from lacking necessities. What money doesn't do is bring meaning and purpose to your life which is the source of happiness.
@@CJ-lr4ejI agree. I’m considered low income but I am happy and fulfilled.
I'm self-employed & can relate. I was obsessed with hitting the $1m mark. I came close, but at a price!
My advice, family 1st. Because one day you wake up & your kids are damn near grown
Grew up poor with just my mom, basically no family. I'd rather have 1 million dollars than the interactions I had with almost anyone. I'd be practically just as socially calibrated
To be honest sir here in my part of small town America (Arkansas), most men I know work that easily and still make life happen it's tough but we do it and it's not noticed to often but we do it for us and for our family who we see happy. Just my thoughts and opinion thank you sir
“Running things” is a title. Balancing work and time is “LIVING”.
Not even close. I make 100k now I can go on trips and afford dinner celebrations. Rent is 2100 in Connecticut. 60k is almost poverty. Certainly you will never own property
40k more ain’t much either. Humble yourself…..
100k is poverty
It's not what you make.
It's what you can keep that's the key. Don't get caught up in the yearly salary
I know folks who make 250k
a year but still broke or struggling.
That's because they have to many liabilities and not enough assets.
Their paycheck looks good but once you start paying liabilities it doesn't look appealing after all liabilities( bills) are paid.
This video is very old, peterson hasnt been a professor in years. Also, that amount is now about 80-90k
He's talking about people like me who make $430k.yr and lost my family to work. I'm not proud of it and I wish I could redo it but the fact is I don't have good relationships with my family unless they are asking for money. I turn 50 next month and I went from being hungry and wearing worn out cloths to being a multimillionaire. I've bought houses and cars for both my daughters and my x wife tired to off herself.. I would trade it all to go back and do better.
So true
Good video but yeah $60k might be a bit low these days.
yeah you are right, the original video is from 2017.
@@TheGrowth_Gang
That's when the video was released, when was it filmed and converted to digital.
Just upscale to now and the video is still correct
Yeah the new threshold is about ~85k
@@OldMovieFan1973Peterson famously started filming and uploading his lectures on Personality in 2017. He didn't film much before that year, and wasn't lecturing as a professor for too long afterwards, so you have a 2016-2018 hard boundary. Especially with this sweater.
He is magic in explaining how we go wrong but also how we can be better... one of my "HEROES". Thank you Jordan!
That was me before retiring. Slowly I lost my friends, my kids and my wife. I just kept chugging and NEVER looked back. Sure, I retired wealthy, live in a big house, too big for me. Now I wish I had those I loved. You can't trade in your junk for the past so be careful.
I can speak from experience, yes you can give your family more material things, but it's not worth the time and things you missed and will never get back
The material thing I am giving my family is a home. Rent is absurdly high. The extra hours are necessary today for young parents.
Is the $60k adjusted for 2024 inflation?
Probably not. these lectures are probably over 10 years old, as of 2024.
Bruh wtf you talking about. 60k is a great pay
@@laaa210not with the current cost of everything. Especially if you have a family. 5 years ago, pre pandemic, that 60k was only worth about 48k.
I earn around £6k a year and consider myself to be in the upper echelons of my profession.
@@skylerdeckard if you can’t make 60k a year work even with a family, then your doing something wrong.
“Those are the people who run things.” Not families. Not relationships. Things. Cold empty meaningless things. Those are the people who run those things.
Cold empty meaningless relationships too
I was working a constant 62hrs then constant 75/80 with occasional 105hrs-110hrs and I loved it...I don't know why, shot from a walk-in to management and could have ran the place until I realized I had no home life. Easy to think its crazy if you're not built that way but if you are you don't realize it. Remember to analyze all aspects of your life.
That's me. I run the show. I'm driving to pick my alcoholic wife up off the couch of her friend's house.
Mistakes were made and they only compounded.
This is true. Know that if you’re one of these men, like myself. My advice to you is stay out of relationships. You’ll only ruin the lives you get involved with outside of work.
Been working in corporate for 10 years, this is true.
Never think that spending more time at work will be better for your family. Family time is always important,ALWAYS.
I am one man who is like this... and now at 53 is ready to live life... he has a point! That I can not disagree.
I'm 53 too my friend and now I'm at a point in life I'm finally living and omw to a early retirement 🙌....
53 also. I embraced the 80 hour grind. My children live a better life from my grind.
My wife has learned to live with my insanity....I own an electrical business. I always wondered why I was different until one day I just stopped caring and went full tilt into my chaos. I once worked 37 days straight and loved it. Its nice to hear my insanity explained
It’s very true. Just speaking with or being around a CEO for example, or an executive director. Just a different breed of person.
I agree; they are usually the shitiest, most self absorbed and arrogant people you'll ever meet.
In the general population, roughly 1% of people would be classed as sociopathic/psychopathic. For CEOs it's around 4%>
I think of Tom Brady when he’s talking like this. Became the GOAT but his desire for that pinnacle cost him what appeared to be a great relationship.
When you love your spouse you will follow this man to the end of earth.
Top model are rarely committed to just be spouse.
Now the GOAT in Football can sit back and marry a good one, a true one. He can go anywhere on the planet.
He can do like Jordan the GOAT in Basketball.
These husbands and wives who do like stars and celebrities are just not husbands and wives.
Fame and Ressources gone , these people are gone too.
A true one stays and do not make you abandon your dream.
Tom will rebound just like in many Superbowls.
His last relationship was like that Superbowl he lost.
He will come back just like that.
Not a Patriot fan but Damn, that obsession and dedication gave us the Legendary Tom Brady and the Patriots, the Apex of their era for 10 years.
@@RustickxzBadgerxzshould’ve just used Lebron or Steph curry as an example….or Peyton manning….
I feel like you missed the point
No his wife was a whore who cheated on a man who was going to retire at the age of 46. 46!!!! She didn't want to wait she thought she could do better how is she doing now? Crying on the side of a road in Miami. Vs him younger girlfriend and still getting paid. He can start another family she can't her eggs are gone.
Regardless she should not have divorced him, look at her now now what does she have. Nothing but a broken family!
My Dad was like that when we were kids..He was always working. Always had a business. DIDN'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE SAID ABOUT HIM.. HE WAS A ENTREPRENEUR FOR REAL..
My grandaddy worked over eighty hours a week, got a retirement check for his age and retirement check from the Navy and was there for his family
I worked this out a long time ago. A home is a home. A holiday is a holiday. Earning anything over £50k per year is pointless unless you own your own business. you are just giving half of ur money to the government after that point.
This, when I was young and everyone said they are gutting the middle class I didn't understand but now I do. Either make millions of dollars so that a few million in taxes don't hurt or just stay under the bracket.
Money will never equal the love.
Where is $60,000.00 a year is good money? When seems like all taxes combined takes about Half of the income when filing Single. Somebody know how to make that amount work after divorce, illness or job lose etc...Please tell us. 😊
Im doing it now juggling saving and pushing my body so I need to come up with a plan because the body can only take so much
I used to do 14hr days at a factory. I pushed myself with hard drugs to get through it but it all took a toll on my body. Although with the economy we're in right now the same hours wouldn't equal the same rewards. Make time for yourself and do enjoyable things instead of what I did with drugs.
True Story
You will never lose a woman , a true woman pursuing your path and what you are good at and money.
But if you abandon your path, do not feed what your are good at and pursuing women, you will lose everything.
Even God has Angels that are passionate in different wars.
Gabriel love deliveing message and teaching.
Michael love fighting. Even in Heaven they have different passion.
Seraphim, Cherubins, Archangel and other Angels are passionate about different things.They run things in Heaven.
Someone has to do the job and some will choose to do the job..
When someone is your soul,love you and can adjust willingly they will be there for you.
A true twin and matching spirit will go through hell and heaven but still make it work.
Do not get shy being good , really damn good at what you do.
Go for it.
If you are an eagle why will you adopt flying out with ducks and pigeons when the Almighty gave you eagle wings?
Be positively passionate and reasonably dedicated. It is a crime for an eagle gifted with wings by the Highest to stay on the ground walking like a duck eating grass.
I like that. Well written. Blessings
I was one of those guys, now I work to get what my family needs and spend as much time with my family as i can. Life is to short not to make memories with your loved ones
If you don’t have priority is all vanity
With the current US economy, you will be way happier making 100K than 60K. Houses cost so much these days.
As a kid you only get to understand and really appreciate that kind of father in your early 30s.
I know cause i was that kid
Capitalism has broken our brains to think this kind of behavior is praiseworthy
I have a father like that and after now myself having children I really can’t understand that mentality, family is everything
The trade off is this. When you’re in focus, you’re out of balance. When you’re in balance, you’re out of focus. When it comes to being hyper successful, you must forgo nearly everything else and dedicate all you have in terms of time, energy, money, discipline, and anything else relevant into your career. And once you dedicate everything to it, from there it’s how you go about dedicating all of those resources that truly makes the difference between you and the rest. There’s a reason why people with the same circumstances in the same businesses putting in the exact same amount of time have different results.
Yup..
I use to run things until I got hit by a reckless driver, my health crashed from depression of not being able to work, my now ex didn't comprehend and started ignoring me so I felt worse.. lots of other things happened and i got diabetes now... I very much miss the old me😢 it's a struggle now..
Blessings
I like how he emphasized, that those are the people who run things. Generally of course in my opinion. But it helps you not to be fooling yourself if you truly want to make it.
I do what I gotta do.
Who dictates what you have to do?
That was exactly me. I was fortunate @37 to build my business. still plenty of hard work, but now I was benefiting.
I want his cardigan.
Literally describing me
45 year old working professional male here. Balance is key when you get to my age to keep a happy household. Sure work hard and learn lots when you are in your 20s and 30a so that you can start to scale work back and make a good income and spent more time with tour family. But to each their own. Just my opinion. Cheers.
the men he’s talking about can dedicate 100 years of ur life on ur craft. then the next 50-70 years u can start a family. modern medicine and technology can have upcoming generation live at least we’ll into their 150s
Those are the people who can't sit down! And Acknowledge God on this Journey
I have big second-category goals and a small category #1 where I am highly focusing on this category. because these goals and tough. don't chase money learn to build freedom[ it subjective to each of you}
This is outdated data because he made this lecture in 2014 time frame. When adjusted for inflation, the new salary is probably $110K
I will in path of becoming this type of men..and I'm proud of it
I went through the same at work. they said why don't you work more and its like no I can take on the same work after your hours and take in more so I go home and do the same work and take my bigger cut you refuse to give me.
I worked many hours, 2-3 jobs because I had to to make a living. But I didn't enjoy it and retired as soon as I could. I can't imagine working 80 hours a week. 50-60 was all I could take and by the end of my working career 40 was too much. I barely have the energy to be retired now.
Life is More important than Working Every second..Fact!
I make 50k single. Last year for 6months I worked 2 full time jobs =80hours. No wife, kids, fur babies and I literally have everything I want but now I would like to have a family. 2024 is so different than 2009.
I am one of them
I only work 66 an hour. Working 80+ would definitely mentally get to me sheeesh hats off to them
Sounds like he's talking about Elon.😊
Perhaps couple of decades ago when dollar was Worth something
EASY. Use a inflation calculator. It's $75,000 now.
I don't know how he knows but he is right...problem is speaking from experience you often can't undue damage done to loved ones...they will never understand or maybe even care.
I think the 60k now after the Biden disaster is about 150k
It's a trade-off, I never wanted to work myself to death, but I also never wanted to have the "feast-or-famine" cycles I had when I was a kid with my father as a contractor. When he worked, times were good, when he didn't, he drank a lot and there wasn't much money.
I made a conscious choice in my early 20s that, while I wanted a family, I wanted a career woman for a wife who made her own money. I absolutely wanted nothing to do with a kept wife and all the extra stress and pressure that comes with providing for a dependent wife. I decided I would rather be single than be in that situation. So...I was VERY picky with who I dated and ultimately ended up marrying an engineer. As dual income, we don't need to kill ourselves with work, so we both have jobs with normal hours and weekends off, with very little overtime required. We have lots of time to spend with each other and our kids. We do a family trip every year, we go to concerts and shows. We've done martial arts as a family since the kids were little. We wanted our kids to be able to look back on their childhoods and said, "You know, that was pretty awesome".
That's Awesome, Blessings
We are not created to work for someone else. Some of us were blessed with gifts and talents. Use them before they diminish.
"Those are the people who run things; those are the people who run things!"
and those of us with a dream.
we go even harder!
I’m in a career job and I’ve been in that career job for 10 years now, I started when I was just getting out of high school…I was obsessed with working and obsessed with furthering my career…when my son was born 4 years ago I missed 90% of his first 2 years because I was more obsessed with furthering my career than seeing him grow up.
Those were the worst days of my life…and after I finally made it to that promotion, all I could I say was I hate it here because it gave me a job that didn’t really care about me and a son who barely knew me. It’s not worth it, trust me it’s not.
And when we get old and look back it's kind of sad
Those ppl doesn't necessarily run things but control what they servey!
Yeah, that's why he's happy to rake in the millions.
I do 80 hrs a week to boost my retirement greatly. In about 10 months that 80 hrs a week will make a big impact on my quality of life for the rest of my life.
If you work in something you really love that doesnt matter for us (like me in informatic/programming which you must be always being updated), once i finish my work, i always keep studying 2/3h, to be capable of more.. my grandma always told us: knowledge does not take space
Ppl who achieve the most has this characteristic. Family or success... pick one
I do it to invest excess for my future and my kids future. Inflation makes cost unpredictable, and the last thing I want to say when I can’t afford to retire is that I should have worked more OT when I was younger.
NO DOUBT!
I work 100hrs a week 😮
Then I have the next week off 😅
This is absolutely the best way to balance family and work ❤
If you go from 60k to 160k it definitely has major impacts. It changes the area you live in, kids go to better schools. Potentially even private school. The people you connect with are at or above that same level so opportunities rise from it. Vacations more and to better places. Love Petersen he’s the reason I jumped into fatherhood after saying I’d never have kids for my entire adult life. This is just an excerpt from the entire lecture so maybe my thoughts are irrelevant.
However if that is the stance, money changes every
It's a catch-22.
The ones who worked constantly to make ends meat and get their children through school will always regret not having more precious time with their loved ones.
The ones who didn't have the means to give their children the extra money they always needed/wanted but was there for them will always tell you they wish they had more things to provide for them.
Most of us simply cannot have it all. Cherish what you do hhave and love someone.
If you need to work extra hours temporarily to provide more for your family, that’s understandable, but working that much all your life even when you don’t need to financially will lead you with a lot of regret. I doubt anyone on their deathbed is wishing they worked more, but I’ll bet a lot of people on their deathbed are wishing they’d spent more time with their family and friends
You spend all of that time at work, never spending time with your kids that's not successful, especially when that company decides to get rid of you just like, you're only a number to a company. Then because you worked long hours your children want nothing to do with you because you put them second. Being there for your children is a successful man
Not worrying about money would solve 99% of all my problems
Years ago your kids will appreciate the time but Facebook, social media has made them change. I will keep working hard , so my kids understands nothing comes easy
I make 89k a year and still need to supplement. Thanks Joe
My quality of life between when I made 60 and what I make now is very different. I get the message, but yeah, money does contribute to QOL
This is me in a nutshell I relate to every word vividly
Money is not always tied to number of hours worked.
Assuming the same hours worked, going from making 60k to 150k has a huge quality of life impact.
This made me cry 😞
100 percent right,I've dropped to 20 hours a week and I'm much happier
I value my time at home a lot more than my time at work. I can't wait to punch out and run out of there without looking back. I don't care what the management thinks. I'm already giving them my time. If they want my dedication too, then that's going to cost them extra.
Bec they fulfill what most of us are dreaming off. not more not less.
I worked a minimum of 50hrs a 5 day week with random weekends for my whole career. I managed to go to just about everything my son was involved in all through school until he went off to college. The companies I worked for were not really supportive. Therefore I did my job really well but I told them for example I’m taking my wife and 5 year old son to disney world. And I went. I wanted to take him while he still thought the characters were real. It was a great experience all around. That company fired me a few months later after 23 years of service. I was disappointed in that company but never disappointed in my decision to take my son to disney. That was almost 20 years ago
The guys who work 80 hours a week are missing out. I work on a relatively low salary working from home and see my daughter every day. I looked after her from infany to school, and I wouldn't trade that for anything. I've seen guys who work for the company for decades get dropped instantly the second their role becomes redundant. The company doesn't care about your investments to them. Your family do.
More money is a better quality of life if you don’t mess up your priorities.
More money for me meant a better quality of life that and I and my family enjoyed, enjoy and will continue to do so
At the expense of a relationship with your children and family. I'll take family.
Time is way more valuable than a dollar
What better way for a father to show his love to his children then to provide an education for them, and help them as much as he can financially with school.... this is why most man that work 80 + hours a week do what they do and sacrifice alot, most of the time the sacrifice is the relationship, the family but his children are going to college and getting a good head start and opportunity in life...one of my bosses once told me he lost his wife many relationships, and time away from his children...but now all his children and nephews can go to any college this world has to offer...many elite top alpha man sacrifice alot and we dont do it for joy sacrifice is alot of pain and we do it for others. The sacrifice we go through we do it for others.
Fact!
"All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy”
I love Jordan Peterson, he's been such a blessing in my life.
That being said, he's clearly not an adrenaline junkie: extra income means extra activities. Downhill mountain bikes, motorcycles, kayaks, boats, snowboarding, scuba diving, skydiving, boating... all the really fun things in life cost MONEY.
I can't just go out to dinner with friends on weekends and be happy anymore, not when I can go do something adventurous and then go get dinner afterwards.
That's the problem with some of our educators, they assume they know what is going on. If you pick a job no one else wants to do, you are not spending time away from family because you are obsessed, but because you had to.
Even worse, some of those jobs pay better, but not enough to take vacations. It can be painful.
First time this straight forward! Ty, i needed to hear thus.