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Why I Shoot a High Power Lens For Archery
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2021
- This video explains why I choose a high power lens and can give people an idea on whether they should test a high power lens or stick with a lower power lens for their archery set up.
It’s really awesome seeing someone on tv that you like and finding they have their own yt channel, especially when they’re elites in their sports.
Thank you, Paige, for continuing to share quality information with your fellow archers! We appreciate you.
Thank you!!!
I will say that high power lenses, because the target looks closer to your eye, you get a finer aiming point and therefore might see a bit more wobble if you're just getting into it and aren't sure about your form. Personally, I started with a 4 power lens and I am perfectly alright so far with shooting, it gives me a bit of comfort that the target looks bigger and I can relax a bit, and if I use a big dot I don't see any wobble. That changes however if you go to a 6, or an 8 power. 1st, you might need a clarifier, and if you're in rainy and foggy conditions good luck trying to not have that thing fog up. Clarifiers come in many powers, but if you choose to use one, you need to change a peep sight to a threaded peep sight with adjustable apertures like ones that Specialty and Hamskea offer, which will cost some more cash. Some people can go without a clarifier for a 6 power, but it's better to be safe than sorry. Hope this helps some of you!
Thank you so much for this - You just sold me on bumping up higher, because I also find a giant target "comforting"
Many thanks for this upload! Panic attacks are horrible but we can learn to fight them! Nice work!
Thank you for this explanation. Every person is different, that's the beauty of archery 👍
Good insight into your reasons for shooting a high mag lens. 👍
When I shot 3D archery years ago I used a 8 power lens and it helped me out. Great video. Great reason for why you use a high powered scope. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I read a question about size clarifier. You’ll need a red #3. With that you’ll have to adjust the peep size depending on the distance to eye-to-lens. I’ve been using an 8X for 5 years coming from a 6X. It takes quite awhile to get use the the movement. Don’t quit after a few days. It took me about 3-4 months to really feel good about it. I’ve broken 3 USAA Nationals records with the 8X. If you can handle the mental movement after a couple of months, go further with the 8X. It’ll pay off.
Not everyone needs a three it is based off of their eyes. Tate can clear up an 8 with a 1 or a 1.5. That’s like saying everyone would need the same prescription glasses. It’s something everyone has to test. And peep size drastically changes the target clarity as well. The smaller peep you go the clearer it gets. Tate can get this clear with a 3/32 where I have to shoot a 3/64 to get the same clarity. So again it’s all based on eyesight :)
Appreciate the video, I was thinking of starting with 4x lens. your explanation of your experience was spot on!
Makes sense. Good points. I may try inner on my next optic I try. Thank you for your input.
I've seen people that use the high power lenses sometimes hit the target to the left or right of theirs and getting a miss even though it's a 10 in somebody else's target.
Outstanding tip dear 👍thanks for the recommendations 😎
Thanks a lot!!! ❤ i really apreciated. Ouff, i just baught fiew day ago (its on is way) a Shrewd OPTUM 29mm with all the bell and wistle with a X6 lenses. I was afraid to not buy the good one. Thanks for the advice.
I tried a X8 and im not ready yet. Lol (Dot move to mutch for me).
Thank you also for the info on the Dod size and color.
Its really hard to have good answers. To mutch false info on the internet and a lot of diferent opinion.
Its hard when you are a beginner like me and try to buy the good stuff ones. And to have real good true answers on these subject (archery).
Thanks a lot, its really appriciated!!! Looking forward for your next videos
How are you liking it? I might be adding a 4x lense. I hunt and am starting to do some 3Ds also.
Hi Paige. I like what you are saying about the higher lens but until I get an steadier aim I would be sea sick all the time. I will try your wrist technique for an steadier aim. Thanks again. 🏹🤠👍
I float a little bit but it always centers when I breathe. I think that is why i do archery, that process. I'm not just centering my pin, I'm centering myself. I want to get on a hinge but I think ill just practice BT more with my index for now.
Big Fan! I currently run a 6x lense on a 40mm Bowfinger scope and it's great, but I would love to run an 8x lense. I purchased an 8x X-Focus 365 lense but can not get any sort of clear sight picture. I've tried all clarifiers from .5 all the way to a 3, and nothing works. Any suggestions?
yup, I prefer a giant target too, and so far I have a 6x lens - the target does look blurry but, not that bad that prevents me from executing my shot. I'll try a 8x soon! .. I hope it won't be way too blurry.
I been doing research on this . Thank u so much
Hello Mrs Pearce.
Again thank you for your info.
As you said, indeed a high power lens is not suited for all :)
I have however two other questions.
You talked about target and 3D on regards of lens power but also sight picture and scope size. What about Field where you need the clear view for measuring the target-distance - and thus rather a 6 power or matbe 8-power lens... while still being able to fit the whole target in the scope?
Also a large size scope might help ... but how do you manage to still being able to lign out the peep with the scope (of you barely can see the sides or outer ring of the scope as it is big)
Thanks in advance for your advice AND time!
Paige, Great video. As I get older it's harder for me to focus on both the pin and the target. Will a magnifying lense help me with this problem? or is there something else you could suggest? Thx.
I would suggest looking at adding a verifier to your peep.
Iam trying to figure out a good magnification for shots at whitetails anywhere from 5-50 yards
Another thing to consider is draw length, a 6x lens with my 32" draw length probably looks about the same as an 8x lens at your draw length.
As a general trend, smaller people tend to shoot higher power lenses, just because of that.
That is true... but you also have to consider sight length not just draw length. If you measure your peep to pin measurement for Archers Mark or Archers Advantage, mine is right about 33. I use the Axcel long bar and run it almost all the way out. So saying it’s based off draw length isn’t entirely true because mine is actually way longer than most men’s because of how I run my sight. Therefor, my 8 is like an 8 not like a mans 6.
@@PaigePearceinsight that's an excellent point Paige, thanks!
I've just added an extension bar to my tru-glow power dot using an X-4 lens with clarifier. All I need now is for my special order bow to come in.😓
Paige, what clarifier do you use on a 9 or 10x lens? I have a #3 red Specialty Archery clarifier, but it does not clean up the target face. I also have a Hamskea Peep setup I will try the D lens. I shot a few lanes away from you in Lancaster this past week or so ago on the Practice range upstairs and in the back on the astroturf range and was amazed with how great you were with each and every one that approached you. I loved to see how much time you spent with the young girls, as soon as my granddaughters are old enough, I will have a bow in their hands and your videos on their tablets. keep up the great work you are an inspiration to all young ladies.
did you ever figure out witch clarifier to use?
Here again, I fully agree and think that I am in your team of big magnifiers. I like to have a big picture and a big yellow taking all the space on my sight. One question though, do you use clarifiers in order to still see the fiber correctly? In the positive, would you please share the clarifier # that you use? many thanks Paige, Cheers.
What was the answer?
Thank you very much
Great video!
I prefer the 8 or 9 power lense. I want to see the basketball lol.
Great info thank you
I been shooting decades , this year I decided I would try to magnify . Got a 4 power , thinking about getting a 6 and 8
What did you end up doing? I"m prob gonna get a 4x I think...
@@kee7678 at my age i still have close if not 20/20 vision , i stayed with the 4 power , and thats going to stay on my target bow only , i dont want to have a clarifier lens on my peep sight which you have to do if you go higher than 4 power . the four power for me gives me a slight advantage over not having nothing . brings in my target sight a little more closer and clearer . if your eyes are still pretty decent , i recommend you start with a 4 power bro !!! good luck bro !!!
@@rick31869 Thanks...great info. Yeah I have pretty good sight too, and just now thinks are a little blurry at distance..so the 4x should help. Thanks again!
Paige looking great lady god bless you in your tournament
How do you see into dark lanes
Using high power lens requires a clarifier, how you deal shooting with this set when it rains. Peep protection are not bullet proof. I see alot of people struggling with foggy clarifier 😢. I m a short draw and the only way to not use a clarifier is using a 4x lens, but i found not very good for target or field archery. Any suggestions?
Happy 4th to you. Big fan. Do you ever have pin glare or starburst and how do you deal with that. I run a 6x lense and previously a 4x lense. Had the same issue with both. Thank you and again, big fan. Appreciate all your content! 😎🎯
Pin Glare is a result of the Sunlight on your scope, so use a sun shade on your scope, front and back. Pin Starburst is from the pin fiber getting too much Sun and being too bright. Adjust the rheostat cover on pin fiber housing or install a light kit that allows you to adjust the brightness of your pins.
Hey Paige thank for the information but one Question
Do you use a clarifier or verifier on you peep sight?
I kinda new to this
Hi, always like you videos and to follow you on the international scene. Im new to archery. What do you recommand for 50M outdoor shooting. Magification strengh and size of scope? What kind of dot color or size also please??? What is the best scope to buy?
I would recommend looking into a shrewd scope. Maybe the 29mm. And lens magnification is a personal preference but most people start with a 4 or a 6x. I shoot an 8 but I wouldn’t recommend that for most people.
And you can just use a black dot, or you can use a fiber bit you can’t use a light so probably a green fiber. And that is also personal preference on how much of the target you want the aiming reticle to cover. And the more lens magnification the less size the pin will cover obviously so that’s all completely personal preference :)
Is it easier to aim with a small dot or big one. Witch one is more precise.? (Kind of) i hearing all kink of info on this subject. Some people cover all the 9 ring with there dot???
What is the best sight to use for ease of adjustment
If you focus properly, meaning focusing on the target instead of the dot or the pin, does it matter which magnification you choose if you can't see the wobble due to focusing on the target and not the pin?
So usually even if your eyes focus on the target you will still see your pin movement. So it just depends on the person. If you see a lot of wiggle and quit executing then lower power would be better. But if you can keep pulling seeing that movement you might be okay with a high power. But no matter where your eyes are focused you will still see your pin/dot and the movement
Paige, You shot trigger releases. Do You think that trigger releases better cooperate with strong magnification than BT ones, or it doesn't matter?
Not Paige, but the release your select won’t affect magnification. Your “let-off” will affect pin movement. For most, the lower the let-off percentage, the steadier the aim.
Do you need a clarifyer with a 6x i just got one today its blury
@@Historyrevenge777 Yeah I have to use one! A Hamskea B or a Specialty Number 2 for me personally. Possibly a 1.5. But yeah I definitely need a clarifier with a 6 :)
Page, what clarifier do you use IN your peepsight. I shoot with a TenZone 29 mm scope 1, that's equal to a 100.I think I think that's the heaviest lens, here in Europe.
My peepsight is one with an original build in clarifier. I don't know the power of it. It has 2 dots painted on.
But what you said in this video that on a Vegas target you see a massive 9 like a ball, well I don't. What do I wrong ?
I shoot a 3/64 specialty number 2 or 3. I have a few of each of those like 3 number 2’s and 3 number 3’s because honestly they are all a little different. Then I will throw in all the options and see which one is best. Sometimes depending on your eyes or the lens or clarifiers you are trying, you may have to sacrifice and have a slightly blurry target or a slightly blurry pin, but every once and a while you get one where both are clear and that’s the golden setup! 💪🏼 If I am shooting a Hamskea Peep then I use the C or D clarifier. I switch based on lighting conditions what lens I am using and what happens to look best that season.
@@PaigePearceinsight a 3/64 how much is that in mm ? And I don't understand what you trying to explain with number 2 and 3. I guess that you in the States got much more lenses and clarifiers . Here in Belgium we have a 50 - 75 - 100 diopter for in the scopes, and for in the peeps just the same. And if we shoot with a 100 diopter, must we also shoot with a clarifier in our peep, or not ?
We don't have a coach here like the most top archers. We have to figure it out by ourselves, and buy it. If it's no good, bad for us. But we still loose our money. We wanna buy a bow, and we never can shoot a few arrows, before we buy. That's so sad here.
I hope that you always be # 1. It's always nice to see you shooting.
Do you use any type of clarifier? I shoot a 6x lens but found the target was fuzzy.
Everyone’s eyes are different but anything over 4x you will most likely need clarifier. You will have to get the lense you want and try several different clarifiers until you find the right one. Hopefully your pro shop will have some for you to try- mine didn’t so I had to buy the complete clarifier kit and they aren’t cheap. I’m shooting a 6x lense with .5 clarifier. But like I said everyone will be different
@@ultimatejay clarifier is a bad idea if it rains, I never needed one, I tried 8X 6X 4X 2X and the best I found that works for me all the time was the 4X, with the latter you never need a clarifier.
@@noureddineelaroussi7680 wh;y would you shoot your bow in the rain? If you're hunting then I wouldnt use anything more than a 4x.
Thanks Paige. I’ve always shot 4 x for 3d and indoor and 6x outdoor. I will try more power for spots and see how,well I get on. I find a 80cm face way small with 4x outside, so maybe 8 will be better than 6x?
What did you end up doing?
Hunting with a scope? Anyone use it or tried it?
You can hunt with the scope, why not. The reason people don't use a 4X scope is because mainly they shoot within the 20 miles radius, at that distance you'll be fine. If you plan on shooting farther the scope will be a very good idea. My hunting rig a Vertix 75 pounds with Axcel Achieve XP and 4X scope. I rarely change the scope to a non magnification.
I actually tried it once... but I don’t want to use a single pin. I also tested a lens with my 5 pin sight and it was okay other then it totally changed your pin gaps and makes them wider.
I know No one who is shooting at distances of 20 miles@noureddineelaroussi7680
Do you using Axcel Doc's choise lens?
What size clarifier do you use?
Paige do you use a clarifier with your 8x or 9x setup?
Yes I have to. I actually have to use a clarifier even with a low power lens like a 4. That’s just my eyes though 🤷🏼♀️ but I shoot a 3/64 specialty number 2 or 3. I have a few of each of those like 3 number 2’s and 3 number 3’s because honestly they are all a little different. Then I will throw in all the options and see which one is best. Sometimes depending on your eyes or the lens or clarifiers you are trying, you may have to sacrifice and have a slightly blurry target or a slightly blurry pin, but every once and a while you get one where both are clear and that’s the golden setup! 💪🏼
Great tip Paige ! Not much point in asking a question since I see you haven't answered any others.
🤦♂️
Pretty sure I have answered like every question on here sooo.... 🙄🙄
Paige what about hunting?
Some do it some don't. It's not bad really, but since it's a piece of glass, if it's rainy or foggy, you'll be in some serious trouble. Specialty Archery does offer an anti fog coating cleaner if you choose to do that, but in my opinion, I wouldn't hunt with a magnification lens. Whatever works for me however might not for you.
For hunting I just use a normal 5 pin sight but usually a sliding one so I have my bottom pin (60 yards) as my floater. I have tried a lens but it distorts your pin gap with a multi pin, and I was concerned about rain 🤷🏼♀️ I wish I could hunt with a high lens though I think I would do better!!
@@PaigePearceinsight another question 🤔
I've seen your groups at 20 yards with your target set up
How are the groups at 20 yards with your hunting set up?
@@dougking5703 oh at 20 they would be like the same that’s simple! I would say they are decently similar out to maybe 60 then my hunting bow would spread out a little more than my target bow. It’s easier to aim with an 8 power at distance and see exactly where you are.. when I aim with my hunting bow my pin covers a lot of the paper plate at the farther distances and you can only be as precise as you can aim. So that’s the one downfall in my opinion with my hunting set up but that’s just how it goes 🤷🏼♀️
I got target panic thinking about 9 power lols.
I thought lenses are illegal for World Archery competitions!
Nope… electronics are illegal. Lenses are definitely legal lol
In my mind " it's massive" she said Tate!!!