Comfortable! Tynee Explorer Electric Skateboard Review

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  • Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
  • First reaction from everyone who tried the Tynee Explorer: it's so comfortable! But aside from that, this electric skateboard has some unique qualities that may be important to you. If you'd like to get this board, my referral link is dkwan.com/tyneeexplorer/. Use it to get $105 off at checkout, or enter my code 'DKWAN105'.
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    00:18 Review
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  • @DanielKwan
    @DanielKwan  2 роки тому +14

    Correction: claimed top speed is 34 mph, not 43 mph. I misspoke!
    --
    Hope you're all well! If you'd like to get this board, my referral link is dkwan.com/tyneeexplorer/. Use it to get $105 off at checkout, or enter my code 'DKWAN105'.

    • @shaldonthomas
      @shaldonthomas 2 роки тому

      I keep on getting an error trying to log in tynees website

  • @ryanfrommontana5236
    @ryanfrommontana5236 2 роки тому +14

    Your videos gave me the knowledge and courage to get into e skating at an older age. I’m so glad I did. It’s exhilarating. The rush of acceleration is crazy. I can’t even imagine how fun an off road board is. I will watch every video you make I’m hooked !

    • @willlawson6126
      @willlawson6126 Рік тому

      Right when I first started researching electric skateboard to buy as my first one, I came across Daniel's channel here and I definitely watched quite a few episodes before making my first purchase.

  • @Tyneeboard
    @Tyneeboard 2 роки тому +13

    Hi. Daniel and Max. Thanks for your honest review of Tynee Explorer. Many customers may be confused for the range. Because Max use the highest speed and it had max speed and max current. So it will get less range. And the max speed will also be affected by the battery. If the battery is not 100% full. It’s possible that the max speed will drop. So no worries. Thank you.

  • @Oxydado
    @Oxydado 2 роки тому +4

    I was thinking of picking up this board. Your review is so non biased and objective that it will definitely steer many in this direction. I just took delivery of a propel endeavor 2 pro. That vesc and suspension is by far the best board I have owned.

  • @underablackflag
    @underablackflag Рік тому

    After watching a bunch of your vids I ended up get this board. It’s my first eBoard. Thanks for all the videos they really helped my decision.

  • @raku5219
    @raku5219 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for clearly showing how real world range conditions are very different from the advertised range. I would like e-board companies to understand that a lot of riders would REALLY appreciate a more "real world" range advertised as well as a warranty that is impressive and inspires confidence.

  • @akalia_07
    @akalia_07 2 роки тому +3

    I just wish everyone used their own design for the deck. There are cool and unique designs out there even the one that looks weird as heck but they are different. A lot of boards look very very alike due to how similar they all look. Companies needs to start using their own design.

  • @finnoconnell9992
    @finnoconnell9992 2 роки тому +7

    Nice review. Could you review the onsra black carve 3 when it is released?

  • @jayatflyt
    @jayatflyt Рік тому

    Hi Daniel, I just wanted to thank you for this video. $1500 is a lot for me to spend, especially on a skateboard, and after watching this video, I bought an Explorer and I've loved it ever since. Thank you for your review!

  • @nin1ten1do
    @nin1ten1do 2 роки тому +1

    finaly bets of the best for me in my country roads.. :)) THX TYNE

  • @shanesanchez2827
    @shanesanchez2827 2 роки тому +3

    I was originally going to upgrade to the Meepo Hurricane, until I came across this video. I HATE DKP, so knowing I can have a traditional truck set on its own is enough to get me to change my mind. The flexy deck is great too!

  • @fiachrabrowne8299
    @fiachrabrowne8299 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Daniel, have you got any information/opinions about the exway battery extender 1000w?

  • @VincentTan515
    @VincentTan515 2 роки тому +3

    Nice, please review the new exway atlas pro next.

  • @Jason_Music
    @Jason_Music Місяць тому

    Hi. Nice review. Can you specify any wheel size in the remote? What other eskateboard 2 in 1 would be better than this one in term of max speed power and range ? Thanks

  • @peterdoczi2310
    @peterdoczi2310 2 роки тому +15

    Hi Daniel,
    One thing I noticed you didn't mention like you normally do was the board's braking power. Could you or your henchmen tell us more about it as well as elaborate on the acceleration?

    • @davidheath2427
      @davidheath2427 Рік тому +2

      Got my Explorer this week. The brakes are completely adjustable from slow you down to throw you off in two feet . I'm running mine at 60% and I will come to a complete stop from 30 km/h in roughly 6 metres . And the last meter is locked up . They definitely work as good as the other new 2 in 1 boards out there

    • @mediamail2561
      @mediamail2561 11 місяців тому

      ​@@davidheath2427how do you like the acceleration on the explorer?

    • @davidheath2427
      @davidheath2427 11 місяців тому +1

      @mediamail2561 I have just installed the upgraded ESC and I can't take off a full speed . So that is the esc that they are shipped with now . I had the original version. That had the 50 amp esc . What they sell now has the 90 amp and it awesome .

    • @mediamail2561
      @mediamail2561 11 місяців тому +1

      @@davidheath2427 thx, that's exactly what I wanted to know👍🏼

    • @davidheath2427
      @davidheath2427 11 місяців тому

      @mediamail2561 this is a great board but if you weigh more than 100 kg . It gets a bit bouncy over corrugated surfaces. If I'm over 40 km an hour and I hit bumps the same distance apart it can try to throw me off . That's my only complaint and if you know how to ride that shouldn't be to bad . Around it's a great board I love mine .

  • @certifiedalchemist
    @certifiedalchemist 2 роки тому +8

    I already pre-ordered this board. Can't wait for it to get here.
    I do agree with regards to the grip tape. It makes it look cheap. I also didn't know it had transparent grip tape on the sides. I have already ordered another grip tape to replace the existing lol 😁

    • @jaromdeeks8171
      @jaromdeeks8171 2 роки тому

      I’ve done exactly the same

    • @Tyneeboard
      @Tyneeboard 2 роки тому +6

      Sorry for make you confused. Lol. Let’s add a FAQ on the website to explain the grip tape of Explorer. Thank you.

    • @jaromdeeks8171
      @jaromdeeks8171 2 роки тому

      It would be great to have a second option on grid tape and I’d love to see a metal hub available from Tynee

    • @tttsekov
      @tttsekov 2 роки тому +2

      For me personally, a wooden deck should expose as much as possible from this natural material. If I am changing the stock grip tape, then I would replace it with even more parts with clear tape ;D. I find the design of the top of the board to be simplistic, beautiful and following the deck's geometry. Is there a way to order it with a custom text on the top and keep the Tynee logo on the bottom?

  • @quinnfoster4671
    @quinnfoster4671 2 роки тому

    Tiny detail but I would love if you measured the bushings with some calipers when taking about them.

  • @NatesEscape
    @NatesEscape 2 роки тому +1

    What bushings would you recommend?

  • @krishnansrinivasan830
    @krishnansrinivasan830 2 роки тому

    Awesome & Thanks :)

  • @andrewcirco4186
    @andrewcirco4186 9 місяців тому

    I might get one and put a vesc in it. Would that give me more power then the 80A esc? Or is the battery the bottleneck not the esc?

  • @NatesEscape
    @NatesEscape 2 роки тому +1

    Does it come to a full stop? I hate that so many boards still roll while you have the brake on…

  • @CrimsonRegalia
    @CrimsonRegalia 2 роки тому

    That ECO mode would be really nice on my Zeus Pro

  • @mshaftenberg
    @mshaftenberg 2 роки тому +1

    I see, now you're eating finger food 😂 Thanks for the video, Daniel!

  • @patchworkkid24
    @patchworkkid24 2 роки тому

    wow, that range calculator is pretty accurate, it said i would get 8 miles range and when i tested it i got 9 miles out of my meepo v4

  • @tttsekov
    @tttsekov Рік тому

    Hey, It's been long since the Explorer came out and now seems like even a better deal.
    I read an opinion somewhere about the trucks with this particular board, that the TKPs are nice but felt unstable at high speeds. Surprisingly, the DKPs were more stable compared to them. What I prefer is better stability than maneuverability.
    Did someone of you manage to compare the performance of both types of trucks, that come with this board?
    Please share your findings, thanks!

  • @JasonC683
    @JasonC683 2 роки тому +9

    Review the acedeck ares!

  • @Bclamp1
    @Bclamp1 Рік тому

    Would you get this or the new zealot x for college

  • @andrewl9696
    @andrewl9696 2 роки тому +1

    great review! Appreciate the unbiased review. I personally disagree about the look of the board. It’s a minimalistic look that appeals to a lot of peopl, such as myself. This is my first electric so I hope I like it!

    • @Tyneeboard
      @Tyneeboard 2 роки тому +2

      Yes. We like make things simple. Lol

  • @ankieb3980
    @ankieb3980 2 роки тому

    Why the thin deck

  • @peterobrien7465
    @peterobrien7465 Рік тому

    What's board like with street wheels?

  • @ChrisLopez-wv2wl
    @ChrisLopez-wv2wl 4 місяці тому

    Hey daniel recently bought this board and chose the wrong ECS and now I'm stuck with a board that I can't Manuel configure/play around in the settings, do you know the app that is compatible with this board

  • @stephen0406
    @stephen0406 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the review. Is Max rocking a Thousands helmet? Curious on his opinion on it since I was also looking into one.

    • @DanielKwan
      @DanielKwan  2 роки тому +1

      Nobleman K2 helmet

    • @stephen0406
      @stephen0406 2 роки тому

      @@DanielKwan Thanks, I'll look into it :D

  • @MyWorldAsDylan
    @MyWorldAsDylan 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome, was waiting for this one! You're right it looks super premium compared to others on the roadside. Topside I as well don't know what is missing but it looks not that WOW (I'm not a graphic designer). Don't get me wrong, I love the wood look! I love that they invest in setup, but I want and need to know the individual cell info (had a unbalanced battery pack once so it's really important how your battery pack is handling). I don't understand the 'power' and 'acceleration' setting. What's the difference? Power = torque and even top speed (depending on restrictions). Again, love the direction they're going 👌. Great video, thanks DKwan! 🤙

    • @DanielKwan
      @DanielKwan  2 роки тому +2

      Cells are Molicel P42A. For the settings, power = how much current, acceleration = acceleration curve or when you feel the torque.

    • @MyWorldAsDylan
      @MyWorldAsDylan 2 роки тому

      @@DanielKwan haha thanks but I meant the possibility to read out the individual cell info from the remote (I know they use p42a's) 🤣👌. Thanks, but doesn't more current automatically translate to more torque and even higher top speed? That's where I'm kinda lost 😅. Thanks again!

    • @Tyneeboard
      @Tyneeboard 2 роки тому +3

      @@MyWorldAsDylan Hi. After you set the max speed on each mode. The max speed of each mode will be limited. No matter how much power / current you set. It will not over the max speed you set. Thank you.

  • @Vladi_Pisarski
    @Vladi_Pisarski Рік тому +3

    Dear @Daniel Kwan,
    Another Great Review... But I would like to inform any future buyers that Code for 105$ is not working anymore and now it's only 15$. Which is Pitty!

    • @skfunk4550
      @skfunk4550 Рік тому

      tried it too and yeh it's a shame😏

    • @wilsooxu
      @wilsooxu Рік тому

      Yea I just tried as well. Same thing. I’m gonna put off my purchase on this board I guess

    • @skfunk4550
      @skfunk4550 Рік тому +1

      @@wilsooxu i actually bought it on Thursday 6th after the GBP went back to it's level against the USD and just waiting for delivery. Aidan sent me another code and to be fair, it's an excellent deal. Delivery is coming from Germany and updates are excellent from Aidan and the site. Can't wait to get it😁

    • @Vladi_Pisarski
      @Vladi_Pisarski Рік тому

      @@skfunk4550 what was the discount with code that Aiden gave you

    • @skfunk4550
      @skfunk4550 Рік тому

      @@Vladi_Pisarski you can't use it again. i added the board to the cart, filled my details but did not pay and left it. i got an email from Aidan then few questions back and forth and he sent me a discount. Not as much as $105 but he gave me the AT wheels as well as the cloud wheels so a really good deal.

  • @eBoard3R
    @eBoard3R 2 роки тому +4

    ⚡ *Great to have all settings on the remote* ⚡
    the old skool reverse switch bein back is very welcome for those that use it. I for one like this switch cos it makes it easier to avoid accidentally activatin reverse lol.

  • @tttsekov
    @tttsekov 2 роки тому

    Hello, nice review! It made me think about getting this board. I like flexy decks with visible wooden material. I have a few additional questions:
    - I am wondering if any non-pneumatic off-road tyres (like the cloudwheel rovers) would fit the board without a conversion kit?
    - I am a fan of the design of the Evolve Bamboo GTR, its lower weight and the versatility it gives in terms of swappable battery packs (the small one is good for short commutes and saves enen more on board weight). Sure, the Bamboo is already older tech and comes with its flaws but is now priced the same as the Explorer. That's why I am wondering which one to choose...

    • @friendlytravelagent7784
      @friendlytravelagent7784 Рік тому +2

      You may want to check out the new Ownboard Bamboo AT Pro.

    • @tttsekov
      @tttsekov Рік тому +1

      @@friendlytravelagent7784
      Hey, sorry for the late reply, didn't get the notification.. I watched Alex and DK's review for the Bamboo AT Pro and I am currently torn between Ownboard Bamboo and Tynee Explorer.
      - The Explorer has more powerfull motors and a build in heatsink. I want to have a higher deck, but my area has a lot of thorns in the green fields. I have punctured my mountainbike tyres countless of times.. So I need 6 inch NON-Pneumatic or Honeycomb all-terrain tyres that fit the board.
      - The Bamboo is a bit cheaper and even looks a bit cooler (especially with the hexagon griptape). It has the honeycomb wheel option but the current possition of the motors is too close to the ground, especially with small cloud wheels. Even with 6-7 inch tyres it is possible to hit rocks or bumps on rough terrain. I wonder if the height of the motors could be adjusted?
      Thanks in advance!

    • @friendlytravelagent7784
      @friendlytravelagent7784 Рік тому

      I've tried adjusting the height of my motors on the Bamboo AT before, and it unfortunately doesn't go any higher without hitting the deck. That being said, you can buy the 150x50mm honeycomb tires from Ali Express or Ownboard. They are produced by Summate, and will most likely fit the wheel rims on the Tynee Explorer

    • @friendlytravelagent7784
      @friendlytravelagent7784 Рік тому

      *Sunmate, excuse me

    • @tttsekov
      @tttsekov Рік тому +1

      ​@@friendlytravelagent7784
      Great info, thanks! I will definitely check them out.
      I also managed to contact @tyneeelectricskateboard customer support and according to them I can use the Cloudwheel Rovers with Evolve wheel pulleys option, because it seems that Tynee uses the same (or identical) pulley system. So, that would be my second option.

  • @nxel2
    @nxel2 8 місяців тому

    Great review! China power!

  • @ssslade7052
    @ssslade7052 2 роки тому +3

    im Hyped! lets watch this vid with some coffee and Joint! Dkwan is the man!

  • @ryan.2327
    @ryan.2327 2 роки тому +5

    55kph=34mph. I heard 43mph, i was like no way they r gapping everyone else like that lol. Good they aren't using dkp. Some companies "high speed" boards use dkp like meepo and i dont understand why they do that.

    • @quintonwilson8565
      @quintonwilson8565 2 роки тому +1

      can't you just tighten the living shit out of the DKP bushings?

    • @ssslade7052
      @ssslade7052 2 роки тому

      @@quintonwilson8565 yes but its takes so long to adjust to your liking 🙁🤣

    • @DanielKwan
      @DanielKwan  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah 34mph. I misspoke 😭

  • @iMMortster
    @iMMortster 2 роки тому +1

    I would recommend anyone getting the Atlas over this, the 4 wheel variant is having a sale for 1500$ which is roughly in the same price range only better, and can in fact live up to its claims :)
    I really like what they've done with the motor designs, instead of just leaving them plain but the trucks, grip tape and handle make it look cheap quality but I do agree, that the back side with the battery enclosure looks amazingly put together.

    • @l3rlc
      @l3rlc 2 роки тому +2

      The Atlas is on sale because they are about to come out with the Atlas pro. I would not buy the atlas right now although it does look like pretty good deal, they are even throwing in their new $200 esk8 backpack. I personally decided to stretch my budget a little and go for the lacroix barrel. I can't wait until it arrives!

    • @iMMortster
      @iMMortster 2 роки тому

      @@l3rlc wait really? Atlas pro? when and what woukld the improvements be, I'll put some money aside already now.
      Also for the backpacks, I'd say go for the Atsa everyday, seems more efficient but for a bigger pricetag, up to you though!

  • @Kyle-nr6nm
    @Kyle-nr6nm 2 роки тому

    Hey Daniel, just wanted to ask, is it hard and expensive to get a Evolve board in Mainland China. Do you have any reliable sources?

    • @DanielKwan
      @DanielKwan  2 роки тому

      I don’t know about now, but my Hadean took 6+ months to arrive from the US to China because of covid restrictions, and I had to have help from others to get it from HK into China. Yes I would say it was hard and expensive.

    • @l3rlc
      @l3rlc 2 роки тому

      @@DanielKwan When did you get a Hadean!? You haven't posted a review have you or any videos have you? I just think of your reaction to their announcment and the uphill test that toasted the GTR, that and of course "Premium Power!" I finally decided to go for the new Lacroix Barrel, Im hoiping it arrives by the end of the month and I can't fucking wait! Supposedly it has a top speed of 45 mph!

  • @HauntedXXXPancake
    @HauntedXXXPancake 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like a nice upgrade from my Wowgo AT2.
    I could do without the additional 4-600 dollars on the price-tag,
    but the stats seem to justify that if you don't think about it too hard 😄
    Anyhow, Wowgo might definitely want to have a look at this one,
    should they finally get around to making an AT3.

    • @l3rlc
      @l3rlc 2 роки тому

      Supposedly they are coming out with an AT2 pro pretty soon .

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 2 роки тому

      @@l3rlc That sounds awesome. Thanks for the info !

    • @foam27
      @foam27 10 місяців тому

      ​@@l3rlcwell, that didnt happen.🤷

  • @jjjvgfxch401
    @jjjvgfxch401 2 роки тому +2

    Why are tynee boards all ranging in at just over half of their advertised distance? Is there any way to lower the voltage on the esc of the other boards to get more milage?

    • @Tyneeboard
      @Tyneeboard 2 роки тому +2

      Hi. Sorry to make you confused. When we measure the range. We use a slow mode (20-30 kmh speed). So we can get longer range. In the video Daniel said max use Highest speed. And the current of highest speed is very high. So it gets less range. If you use range mode. It will get even more range. So no worries.

    • @ajplant96
      @ajplant96 2 роки тому +1

      Wouldn’t want to lower anything with the esc, 60a is already very weak

    • @l3rlc
      @l3rlc 2 роки тому +1

      @@Tyneeboard You should make that clear on your site if it isn't already. I don't know anyone that regularly rides in slow mode and using it so you can post a higher range than anyone will ever get is kind of dishonest and going to lead to unhappy customers. Obviously there are a ton of factors that go into determining but customers want to know real world range, what they will actually get not what is theoretically possible in lab settings. I see a lot of companies posting different ranges for different weights which can be helpful.

  • @wowcolors
    @wowcolors 2 роки тому +2

    Can cloudwheels 120mm mount to this board?

    • @layhyungs
      @layhyungs 2 роки тому

      the first 200 orders comes with a set of 120mm cloudwheels

    • @davidheath2427
      @davidheath2427 Рік тому

      And they look great on it

  • @Dodge-gh9om
    @Dodge-gh9om Рік тому

    Do you think a 212 pound rider is too much for this board?
    Thanks

    • @DanielKwan
      @DanielKwan  Рік тому

      Probably ok but I suggest you check with Tynee.

  • @Jaeywa
    @Jaeywa Рік тому

    2:40 that’s some cap and definite shade thrown at exway

  • @ArizonaJewell
    @ArizonaJewell 2 роки тому

    I’m really wondering what Tynee’s new ESC is based on. I highly doubt they’d put in all the R&D to create a completely proprietary ESC from scratch. Just seems a little wasteful to design one from scratch instead of basing it on another ESC like the VESC project.
    My guess is they probably followed in Backfire’s footsteps and created a VESC-based ESC for this board, which would definitely be a smart move. Or possibly a Hobbywing with upgraded hardware and custom firmware. Either way, the amount of customization this thing offers via the remote’s menu system is very impressive. Definitely a compelling offering, happy to see so much innovation in the esk8 market as of recent.

    • @ryan.2327
      @ryan.2327 2 роки тому

      Backfire never used vesc🤔. All the boards use hobbywing.

    • @ArizonaJewell
      @ArizonaJewell 2 роки тому

      @@ryan.2327 The Backfire Hammer Sledge does. It’s a VESC-based ESC

    • @ryan.2327
      @ryan.2327 2 роки тому +1

      @@ArizonaJewell oh my bad they do. Haven't heard much about it.

    • @ArizonaJewell
      @ArizonaJewell 2 роки тому

      @@ryan.2327 A friend of mine is a Backfire ambassador and has a prototype 4WD Sledge. The thing is absolutely nuts. I haven’t tried it myself, but everyone I know that has ridden it says it is dramatically more powerful than even the 4WD exway atlas.

    • @ajplant96
      @ajplant96 2 роки тому +1

      The 2in1 segment of production boards that have tried vesc so far have done a poor job of it using weak batteries or drastically limiting the amp output vesc is capable of. The aggressive acceleration trend just feels like being pushed briefly with no follow up pull because of it.

  • @charlescollet3650
    @charlescollet3650 5 місяців тому

    Hi everyone,
    I'm kind of hesitating btw Tynee explorer, Wowgo at2 + plus, and Verreal RS. Almost same price. So please Daniel, or anyone with expertise, please help me in my décision!! Charly

  • @wilsonb5417
    @wilsonb5417 Рік тому

    Been watching e-skate board reviews for months, can’t decide whether the Tynee Explorer, the Meepo Hurricane, or an Exway is the best for me…
    What’s your advice for how people should decide what to purchase, who have never ridden an e-skate board?

    • @celsdl
      @celsdl Рік тому

      Did you decide on a board?

  • @parmeseancheeze1924
    @parmeseancheeze1924 2 роки тому

    Review the TeamGee H20T!

    • @l3rlc
      @l3rlc 2 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't waste my money on anything from that company...

  • @mitchy767
    @mitchy767 2 роки тому

    43mph is 70kph

  • @Jan-gj8bm
    @Jan-gj8bm 2 роки тому

    95kg too much?

    • @davidheath2427
      @davidheath2427 Рік тому

      Scott Davies did a review of this board and he is about that weight.

  • @craigla3815
    @craigla3815 Рік тому

    Someone hates Evolve lol. This the second time I heard you talk crap about them. Taking your advise ty

    • @fred4794
      @fred4794 Рік тому +1

      What is crap ? It's true Hadean has no reverse mode. For a company that claims to be at the cutting edge of technology, it's a shame. It's a joke. Actually both.
      They are proud of their phase remote which is actually crap. Why ? Because having two buttons for acceleration and braking is totally counter-intuitive and dangerous.
      All information on the remote is useless, you only need basic ones. The most important is the ride.

  • @neon10knights
    @neon10knights 2 роки тому +1

    do Acedeck Ares Review

  • @Trilla_killa12
    @Trilla_killa12 2 роки тому +1

    This is a hobbywing ESC lol guessing you don’t know that seeings how you keep saying it’s not lol hope this helps

  • @alibabarouge
    @alibabarouge 2 роки тому +1

    Shanghai police wants to know your location

  • @aus109
    @aus109 2 роки тому +1

    Meh just an evolve clone. Propel or nothing.

    • @l3rlc
      @l3rlc 2 роки тому

      Umm Lacroix, fluxmotion and Kaly would like a word. Propel is still pretty new to the game and just can't stop raising prices. I remember when the endevour S first released it was only $900! No they have the s2 but the s1 is still $1200, 33% more than when it was released and that's not even including their expensive as shipping that they tag on at the end while most other companies simply include it in the cost. Propel makes some decent board but I think they are too overpriced. Why get a pro2 when I could get a fluxmotion at2 for nearly the same price?

    • @aus109
      @aus109 2 роки тому +1

      @@l3rlc Cause the flux motion trucks are dog shit. The flux AT2 should just come with street wheels because any off road riding would be a bouncy, stiff and uncontrollable ride. Propel offers the best bang for the buck at the moment with independent suspension trucks and better cells in their batteries and comes with true alloy wheels, its really hard to beat their value in the esk8 industry.