Is Cam Newton calling out Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Tua as 'game managers' valid? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones react to Cam Newton calling Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, Tua Tagovailoa and Jared Goff 'game managers.'
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Why? That dude is an idiot.
Your right fans can't chastise Cam but we got the right to shut him off and pay him no mind
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This is the best show out! I dont care what no body says! And Joy is the best female on tv. Chemistry, energy, humor, and knowledge of the game is displayed on this show! Hands down the best!
@@alberthall52she's trash also.
My years in football all way up to College more Valuable than her 50 years in college / learning football.
Please STOP
We have 40+ years of football history that tells us being labeled as "elite" or "gun slinger" guarantees QBs NOTHING besides media hype
Nor?? MUST you have a Cannon of an arm...or be a "Dual-Threat" type of run 1st QB..and lastly?..you DO NOT need to be 6'4" 230-240 lbs!! to play at an ELITE LEVEL!! 🫡
Cam has the same number of winning seasons as he does baby mamas...3!!
🧢 look at the last few Super Bowl quarterbacks : Mahomes( game change r) , Stanford ( gunslinger ) , Brady ( ultimate game changer ),
@@Lowfi7050 they were and are great game managers.
@@Lowfi7050 That and stacked teams will win titles.
Acho: Tries to tell fans to not speak about Cam Newton, because they lack credentials.
Also Acho: "Joy, what do you think?"
😂😂😂
Then, immediately 😂 at her response 💯
😂
Also said his best receiver was Ted Ginn Jr. I guess Steve Smith Sr. Wasn’t there
Acho dont even have the right nor does, mccoy or Newton... newton wasnt even as good as cunningham, mcnair, mcnabb, and a slew of others.
According to Joy, MVPURDY needs to learn how to kick game winning field goal, know not to call an all out blitz seconds before half, be a defensive coordinator not letting a team complete 14 consecutive 1st downs and not throw ints whilst being concussed the play prior.
Niner fans salty 😂😂
Exactly. Crazy thing is if this happen to any other team qb, they would feel the same. Situational ignorance from football fans is what keeps these people in TV
The only logical conclusion to how she evaluated purdy is by not watching purdy play and listening to one hit wonders from yesteryears has no situational evaluation skills and tows the line that gets the most attention to stay relevant in her position
There's no actual analysis of purdy at all especially in the games in the skid witch is the only talking point they have left against MVPURDY. Which they sweep under the rug that he had a concussion the defense was playing very poorly and that the offensive line is ranked 22nd in pas protection with Trent Williams and probably dead last without him and purdy still played well enough to lead a game winning field goal drive put up 300 yards in another game and just because he threw a couple picks while playing from behind with a concussion mind you. That negates his MVP or Elite status.😂 By those measures there are no elite or MVP type QBs in the NFL and never had been seriously looking at every great QBs throughout history and try to find ONE that hasn't had games or multiple games like those 3 on the skid
She acts like or thinks she is ALL-KNOWING....she is good, but sometimes she misses certain things.
Game manager: controlling the pace, creating situations for beneficial outcome, situational football, manipulating defense and limiting mistakes, controlling the outcome
By that definition, what owner/GM in their right mind would want anything other than a "game manager"
Did we all forget that the 49ers lost a playoff game without Purdy or am I tripping.
Or that he won 4 games with out deebo.
Hence why he’s the game manager, you take the manager out yall gonna lose, same way if you take away the game managers good pieces and they’ll lose too
@@justinmedlin9196you stupid f**** he’s not a game manger if he’s leading in every statistical category in his position
@@justinmedlin9196All QBs are game managers. It is the QB who determines where that ball goes. It is the game manager who gives the ball to those play makers, running back/wide receivers, etc.
Also, we won two playoff games with him . I was at the Seahawks wildcard game . Purdy was awesome ,after being down 17-16 to start second half . Watch that game people!!!
So by Joys logic when a QB has a bad game and loses he’s a game manager. Peyton Manning has had where he threw multiple picks and lost? Was he just a game manager for losing? Flawed logic
Joy judge QBs by their skin color
Yes, the QB in top 5 all time was a game manager 🤡 if you listened she said even when they are losing they are the reason the team was even in the game. I'm glad you chose to ignore that part.
Great QBs can be game managers in certain games. There’s no question Peyton Manning was a game manager in his last superbowl win, but by no means was he a game manager QB in his career.
@@jonathansanchez8879shut up. This whole changer vs manager debate is entirely stupid, illogical, all feelings, subjective, opinionated, & has nothing to do with MVP.
What do you expect from her? I'd expect a better sammich when she goes back to the kitchen 👍
Cam was an elite athlete and game changer. Period. I remember when he outplayed Brady in 15 and 17. Brady wouldn’t even shake his hand
I agree that based on the pieces around a qb, there are certain qbs that are not required to do anything but not make mistakes. Deebo, Ceedee, and Tyreek make a difference on an offense. The 49ers, Cowboys, and Dolphins not only have all star teams but also have all star coaches. They also have all stars on defense that change the game. The qbs manage the game. Their only job is not to be the reason the team loses. This is why Jimmy G lost his job.
Mccarthy isnt an all star coach. Are you on drugs
Joy just said Tua isn’t a game manager while labeling Purdy one. Mahomes on the Panthers not winning squat. Hurts on the Patriots this year would be terrible. Lamar on the Bears won’t be in the pro bowl. These talking heads moving goal posts is annoying.
For real. Purdy has all these weapons so he's just a game manager. Tua got literally the best WR in the league and now he's a stud. The hate toward Purdy is so real. Early in the season when Brock still had yet to lose a game, the narrative was "the sample size is still too small, we need to see more." The 49ers go on a 3 game losing streak and then suddenly they have seen enough to pass judgement.
Bruh, put Pat on the 49ers and Brock on the Chiefs 👁️👁️ C'mon...
@@heli-am7172 Pat would do well obviously, but KC still has the 3rd best defense, #1 TE, better offensive line, and #1 or #2 best offensive coach in the league. To think it’s Pat carrying them to their pedestrian 8-5 record is comical.
@@OBV-DOMEyou speaking mad facts
Fair Point right here. They make it sound good but Brady if im not mistaken is the ONLY QB that I can think of who took "NO NAME" WRs places. There is a reason this season these Great QBs yall say are Great are really doing bad right now. Cause they don't have many weapons.
Point is... NO QB is going to be really that good WITHOUT some true Elite HELP.
Swear to gawd man Joy gonna bring up those “3 games” for the rest of Brock’s career lol
You see, ask Joy what about those three games disqualifies him and she'll tell you "She knows." Dak gets killed by the 49ers and Cardinals, he's MVP in their eyes. Dak, Hurts, and Lamar have all had their guys in their losses, but none of them are disqualified. But Purdy is because he had guys out, he doesn't play cornerback, or kick field goals?
probably the only 3 games shes ever watched or shes memorized the most about 😂😂
And in the games he lost against the vikings and the Bengals he still threw for over 600 yards between them two games just made a couple errors but it dont mean we gotta keep bringing it up because she don't have the same energy for other QBs who have a made big errors in games this season's because Jalen and dak have made some errors themselves this season. Josh Allen has made massive ones and yet doesn't get it brang up all the time by joy
Exactly! She’s stuck on stupid.
MVPurdy🐐 prolly smashed Joy’s daughter 🤣🤣🤣
helluva show. Most entertaining of them all. Everyone is genuine and theres real
passion in many of the takes. And humor. And Acho is a pretty incredible mind. How does someone talk that fast and still make sense? He does for sure. Thanks guys.
I agree as a 49ers fan Brock is a top tier game manager. He will put up the points with the team he has for a 2nd year qb who started half a season last season and no off season with a major injury. Brock will grow hopefully to be that guy.
LETS BE REAL, TECHNICALLY SPEAKING THE QUARTERBACK IS THE GAME MANAGER HE RUNS THE SHOW
Nothing wrong with being a "game manager" but he is trying to be demeaning when he says that.
@asundelgun3487 I like Cam but he's being salty imo
@@asundelgun3487what the comment is saying is that every quarterback is technically a game manager because they manage the offsets
Pretty much. Some are just elite.
@@asundelgun3487 he’s not there’s just a difference being a game changer
I’m convinced someone who once played for the 49ers broke Joy’s heart or something. The bias takes when it comes to the Niners is crazy sometimes. They must have wrong her brother or something. lol I don’t get this lady man when it comes to the Niners
Fr and acho saying that we the audience gotta watch who cam was etc, but asks joy for her opinion 😂😂
she likes shady, and hes a eagles guy.
BP has won every QB you're talking about. BP landed as a starter by default, give the guy so.e credit.
@@Jvnior_20niners fans mad 😂😂 get over it!!
She’s dumb
I’m a Panthers fan. Greg Olsen had 3 consecutive 1,000 yrd seasons. That doesn’t take away what Cam did because Olsen didn’t have a 1000 yrds until he left Chicago
You’re proving their point, cam got him there
Cam is a number 1 for sure...1 good season, 1 time he refused to fall on a loose ball in the Superbowl, not 1 team willing to sign him...
That Game Manager has whipped the Eagles his whole career!😂😂
and has nothing to show for it lol. he a division round champion.
Right!! NO playoff win, NO NFC conference win, and NEVER made it to a superbowl
@@kristinjohnson8164he actually has two playoff wins but you go off
@@kristinjohnson8164 And never lost a Superbowl like someone else 😉
He never won a Super Bowl, because he never won a playoff game or an nfc conference, but Hurts have 😝
Joy has already dug so deep she's unwilling to admit she's wrong. Her logic flip-flops depending on who the QB is.
That happens to a lot of this sports analyst. Case in point, Nick Wright.
Yeah like purdy losing 3 games but everytime other team also lost 3 games
Facts
@adorned_chaos4162 - Well I would say that the 49ers lost three games, because football is a TEAM sport. But that's just me. It's never fair nor honest to put ANY loss on one single player.
@@CaptnCrunch247 Exactly a lot of these analysts love to pin the blame on purdy but it is a team sport and even then he still put up good numbers and played well
Did they forget about Steve Smith jr? Dude was killing it every season
Old
That's only receiver dude you tripping point made even more.
Joy has a vendetta against Purdy 😂
Sherman said it best this morning on Undisputed. People would not be having all these questions and doubts if Brock was a first round draft pick
To be fair, his draft stock takes into account the measurables, for which Purdy doesn't mystify with.
Yup.
They'd have the same questions and complaints. Dude disappeared when the 3 hoses weren't there.
So what you are saying is Purdy is on the same level as Burrows or Jackson you lost your mind it's not about how you came but what you do while your here
@@LKS-M9323 No, he didn't.
When Joy brings up Trent Dilfer those boys almost lost it in laughter 😂😂😂😂
She even waited on Shady to back her up on that statement and he didnt 😂😂😂😂
@@lakeshowbron4747facts, she ain't like the laughs 😂
@@lakeshowbron4747they all backed her up what are u talking about they was like yeah he managed that team to ah tea which he did he only won because he had the best defense in history on the other side with Ray Lewis
@@1inchpunisher715they was laughing because she was right Trent Dilfer was and still is the biggest game manager in the history to win a Super Bowl
@@higgs878He wasn't a game manager. He was worse than that. To call him a game manager insults hundreds of quarterbacks who actually contribute to their team success.
We talking about the Cam Newton with a career 59% completion (inaccurate) and 123 Ints to 194 TDs (unreliable)? ROFL Cam had one decent year on a team with a great defense. He couldn’t even constantly be a good game manager let alone a game changer. He was a one-hit wonder.
Dak is a game manager and just look at his games until today. McCarthy still has him throwing the short balls, since Dak is not accurate but his receivers can catch everything. When Dak throws the long ball, he will generally throws an interception. Plusm, he struggles in the red zone and he's been in the league for over 9 years. Those other guys can throw an accurate ball, which is a major difference.
How many Super Bowl rings Cam Newton got I forgot 😮😮😅
Cam left his sb ring on the field next to the fumble 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How many do Dak, Tua & Brock have combined? Refresh our memory
@@alexhill9825exactly
@@alexhill9825how many does josh Allen have? Or joe burrow, or Herbert? Just curious.
@@alexhill9825cam played longer than all of them and didn’t get a ring 😮😅 he can’t talk nothing
Purdy losing 3 games and playing *somewhat poorly* still held over his head after going right back to shitting on some of the best teams in the league. But Dak getting absolutely railed by the niners (for a 3rd straight time) was 2 months ago and irrelevant.
"Purdy has to show he can win talent around him" but also "Dak, Lamar, Hurts have had their guys and lost games in humiliating fashion. MVP!!!!!"
And everyone else lost 3 games minimum regardless of what order they happened. So sick of this stupid narrative
@@snowhawk04 Idk if you know how MVP works but it's the guy that played the best for the entire season. Dak only had 1 bad game, Purdy had 3, I'm not good with math but that says one person was better for longer. The Cowboys always have more injuries and most people feel Dak is the season the Cowboys are the #1 seed right now.
Brock played well in that 3 game losing streak. I'm learning that some of these analysts are emotionally and selectively bias. I wonder who hired some of them. Especially the Joy's and the Nick Wright's
@@enigma13ff Dak has had two bad games, losing embarrassingly to the Cardinals and the 49ers. Purdy was fine against the Vikings before he suffered a concussion and threw two picks shortly afterwards. I don't know why everyone forgets about that concussion. Finally, the 49ers are the #1 seed because they hold the tie breaker against against the Cowboys, having beaten them (embarrassingly) earlier this season.
Joy talking about forgetting 😂 but apparently yall keep forgetting Purdy is a rookie. A rookie who took his team to the NFC championship straight off the bench. A rookie who is potentially headed there again! He's entitled to mistakes but give the man his flowers
This is a “how to bait people into giving you compliments” by CAM 😂
"Don't pay attention to what happened to Cam at the end of his career" Now onto Purdy's 3 losses...
Cam was a difference maker.... Stop it... Look at Peyton Manning last year but he was still amazing... Stop it
@@heli-am7172Cam’s peak was high, but it’s wasn’t long.
Cam is a game changer, for the other team. 😂
Casual
@@jovanflores4048 facts
Cam couldn't even make it in the nfl in his early 30 's , dak will be playing in his later 30's. You can't win with a diva leading your team, Cam is a woman in woman's clothing
Bro Cam lost to Peyton Manning with a broken neck.
Yall tripping cam was a beast a freak of nature and there hasn't anyone like him since definitely in 2015 ask any body who played against him, and would of won that Superbowl if not for Von Miller in his Prime not Payton Manning was that a dam joke
Wasn't one of Cam's weaknesses his accuracy? Not sure if he can run Shanahan's offense.
Before in the 80s and 90s QB were measured by winning superbowls now they’re measured by just making it to the Super Bowl.
Dak and Purdy are leading MVP favorites because of their play and the numbers back them up. If they’re game managers while leading the league in most of the major statistics, what does that say about the rest of the starting QBs?
Easy, it says theyre not surrounded by the talent Dak/Purdy have.
That being said..The job of the GM is to put the best roster on the field.
@@MetalRob81you got to be killing me jalen hurts has the best talent on the offensive side but he has been terrible all season lol dude has 15 turnovers and still have four games to play 🤦🏾♂️
@@MetalRob81ya bro all the talent is concentrated on just two nfc teams lol gtfoh
@@MetalRob81exactly 🤣🤣
No QB should win MVP. It would be a complete disgrace to the league if a QB won. No QB is playing at some historic level. Tbh this has been the most avg QB play in a while.
Listen to what Cam said. He said Game Managers play not to lose, they aren’t difference makers. They aren’t doing anything to win the game. To him, a game manager is an insult. He’s insulting QBs that play the position better than he ever did. Being a physical freak doesn’t make you skilled. Cam got ran outta the league bc when his physical abilities began to diminish, he didn’t have the skills to keep up.
All that and he was still better than the dude he mentions. Without any weapons cmc came at the end.
@@neivemcintosh5432 Wrong. Both Dak and Purdy are far better passers than Cam could ever dream of being. All Cam could do was run and throw the ball far. He had beyond terrible accuracy.
I love how he talks about these dudes as game managers who just try not to lose the game, don't throw a bunch of picks. They both have fewer picks on the year than Cam ever did, with huge TD:Int ratios, throwing for more yards. Dude's just a hater who thinks you need to be a huge athlete to be a good QB because that's all he ever had going for him.
Doesnt matter if you thought he could throw,your just proving the elite athlete he was to win with that talent on the Panthers. His position was the quarterback position and he was a game changer like it or not. Most of the guys called game changers have freak athletic ability of some sort. Whether its a cannon arm,Mahommes scrambles and arm angles,lamar and josh obviously can run and allen is huge. Your only good argument is about what happens when these guys lose that physical talent. You have to admit there is something special about being a game manager. Because if it wasnt,when the game changers fall off physically. Their floor should be them being a game manager. But alot of them like Cam fall through the floor and cant be a game manager. So ijs people cant act like all the elite players can game manage if they wanted to. We will find out once they no longer have that extra thing that makes them elite
I can tell not one of yall kno talent at all each o
One of those dudes have pro bowl recievers cam made it to the superbowl with c average recievers yall crazy cam all day tf
Can Newtons Super Bowl stats since they keep being up the fact he went to a SuperBowl lmao that he lost
19/41 completions , 256 yards , 0 touchdowns 1 INT QBR 31 Passer Rating 55
That’s a Game Changer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 come on man
Cam was a game changer from a running perspective. He definitely isn't a passer.
Y'all sat up there and told a flat out lie. Cam had one of the best WRs of his time and possibly a HOF'er in Steve Smith, which he had multiple 1,000yrd seasons with Cam. He also had CMC until he lost his job because he started losing his athleticism and the league caught up to his basic QB style of play.
If you look at actual QB stats, Dak has way better numbers in fewer seasons. Brock Purdy is on his way to pass Cam as well 😂
Edit: Also forgot to mention he had Greg Olsen, who was a top 5 TE in the league around that time.
In his MVP year Cam’s best WR was Ted Ginn Jr
Lmao bro they just be on here lying to discredit Dak and purdy as much as possible. If it was hurt we know wtf they would be saying.
Smith Sr played around 48 games with Cam totalling around 2-3 seasons.
Cam had CMC his rookie year and the final year of his return half way through the season.
Olsen had 2700 yards in 6 seasons before being traded to Carolina before Chicago.
Dont leave those facts out to try and discredit Cam
You’re a liar nd have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Stop spreading misinformation just to push a narrative. Literally nothing Acho said was wrong. He actually does his research before he speaks but you do not. Steve Smith was in the last few years of his career, Greg Olsen has been on record owing the success of his career to Cam Newton. Cam had CMC for literally one fully healthy season. You nd all the other people who are extremely unqualified to have a voice on matters as such are the problem. DO NOT have a great day you absolute waste of space.
@@Npineda323 stop the cap. I didn't leave anything out. That's what y'all do is deflect and lie. Greg Olsen was a beast with Cam and was literally rated as a top 5-7 TE in the league around that time. Play with somebody else, not me lol
This take about Purdy losing without Deebo and other guys is disingenuous to say the least. They forget about about Purdy going 3-0 last year two games in his rookie yr without Deebo. Not only that but Cam only threw above 60 percent passing twice in his career. It’s not really true that with Cams inaccuracy he would ball with all those weapons.
Joy determines who's a game manager by their skin color. Notice that?
Great post. All they had going was Cam was a physical specimen freak (1 of 1) and he had no weapons (only Ginn). That's a load of BS. Cam can't read no defense and can only run around. And they forgot this is a team game. Brady is a "game changer" bc he knew where the guys are and made great reads and throws. Kinda like what Brock is doing
CAM carried his team with passing and running. The point here is do these QBs carry their teams beyond the basic play as QB. CAM never had a team like the 49ers. He carried the panthers to the super bowl. CAM was a game changer when he was healthy.
@@rodj8597 he was a baller but not a hall of famer so not a game changer. He had about 4 to 5 yr run. He was as a monster at his best though. Never was a great passer though
On Monday, Tua didn't do well without Hill.
It’s crazy how many ppl don’t even acknowledge Cam’s career was cut short due to a shoulder injury to his passing arm.
Cam Newton did have a Top-10 receiver while he played in Carolina, Steve Smith Sr!!!!
DAN ORLOVSKY PLAYED MORE SEASONS THAN CAM 😂
Cam’s best year he threw for 59% and he had Greg Olson who had 1,000 yards receiving one season , CMC who made the pro bowl every year he was healthy and had over 1,000 rushing and another 500-600 receiving and double digit touchdowns, Ted Ginn and had Steve Smith who had multiple 1,000 yards receiving seasons so let’s not act like Cam didn’t have any help
Olson has had 3 1000 rec yard seasons. Ted Ginn has never had a 1000 rec yard season in his career. I would add that Cam's MVP season in 2015 was played against one of the softest schedules in NFL history.
@@snowhawk04That’s why I said Ted Ginn and Steve Smith
35 year old Steve Smith was cams rookie year and towards the end of his career as a receiver. Cam nor cmc never were healthy for a full season at the same time, people were beginning to call cmc a bust because he was always hurt. In cams prime and mvp season, all he had was greg Olson as a major target, nothing significant as far as receivers go. Cam had Steve Smith as a rookie when Smith was well past his prime and still threw for 4,000 yards as a rookie, if he had tyreek in his prime, forget about it.
2015 was Steve Smith's 2nd yr in Baltimore so there's that 🤷♂
I like how they act like Cam newton would be going wild if he had hill or qb for niners, when the playmaker part of cam was his running. He was not accurate, so him passing all over the field would have actually held the wrs back, because he''d miss throws that purdy and Tua would make. Lamar is a game changer because of his running speed but over time his accuracy and passing has gotten better and pretty good. Cam never became that good of a passer which is what held him back
Dude your lying. He did have WR Steve Smith (2x 1,000yds) Greg Olsen (3x 1,000yds 2x 800yds) and WR Kevin Benjamin (1x 1,000yds 1x 900yds). He also had DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart together making a great running game.
Was looking for this, Great take.
PASS THE PLATE PASTOR ACHO!! 😂😂
Kimberley Martin nailed it: Browns have resurrected Flacco, and in a season full of backups, Cam doesn't even enter the conversation.
Don't compare retired Cam to full strength Cam. Based on that logic Ben Simmons is better than Jordan.
@@enigma13ff full strength cam was about 2017. But thats not our fault.
@@enigma13ffHe’s retired because no 1 single team wants him. As if we’re going to forget his shitshow in New England
Kim Martins logic is that he shouldn’t say anything because he isn’t playing now. So by her own logic she shouldn’t either
Cam Newton is first of his kind. Big QB who can run over a LB. The hits took an impact on his body. But almost no one could do what he done. Josh Allen is failing at imitation
Cooper Rush is a game manager, Dak Prescott is a game changer ...
except in the playoffs.
Dak is 50/50 because Dak last year… y’all was literally saying if Dak doesn’t throw a pick than y’all can win
Yes because allowed to throw ball 40 times
Vanilla offense to not lose the game is very different from make plays happen. The Cowboys were not supposed to blowout the Eagles. Dak made plays happen. There is another QB who's name i won't mention. The team is very careful in some spots but if i point that out "I'm a hater"
@@theboy7323 y'all? Not me...Yes look at this team's stats comparing Rush to Dak.. This team can win even when he throws a pick.
if you're not running the football as a QB, how are you NOT a game manager? A lot of people have to do their job for a forward pass to work. It just doesn't make sense.
Cam Newton was a game manager. He was not a game changer. How did he change the game in Super Bowl 50. He fumbled twice lost that game without making any change. Cam also was a running first QB which is essential saying we don’t think you can win the game with your arm from the pocket so use your legs so you don’t lose us the game with your arm
Lmao James was trying to get Joy canceled by impliing she was going after Joe Montana😂😂😂😂
Exactly they just don't like 49ers period
Cam was certainly a game changer. Many times he threw the ball to the other team and really changed the game. If game manager means a guy who has more intended air yards per attempt and per completion, who has fewer yards from receivers after the catch, has a far better INT rate AND TD rate than Cam, who is apparently a "game changer" like Dak does... I will take the game manager all day every day.
Cam certainly changed the game when he refused to fall on a fumble in the Super Bowl.
or when he went to New England and really impacted the trajectory of their organization. It’s almost like if you’re the 1st overall pick in the draft, you get a pass on career ending performances that would doom lesser known names 🤔 strange…
Can got an mvp and SB appearance. Speak to me when those other guys get that
@boogidwnej179 one good season!
See, that’s what he means by game changer, game started with him with the football, he changed it to the other team
49ers fan here. I think it is fair to wait and see what Brock becomes before throwing labels at him. He is having a great year, but it is a little early to call him elite. To Joy's point, we should wait and see where his career goes.
My only real objection to the narrative around what Cam said; someone has to win MVP. Maybe Dak or Brock's MVP wont be as impressive as Cam's, but voters are gonna vote. Likely for a QB.
Game managers don't lead the league in deep passes. They don't roll out and keep the play alive. They don't throw across their body.
Cam certainly changed the game in the SB when he made a business decision instead of trying to recover his own fumble.
Exactly!!! Game changer
Wasn’t that the yr cam won mvp and lead his team to the superbowl?
Whole cast agreed with Cam
😂😂😂 you thought it was just gonna be joy that agreed
@@MeBihhhh Yup, and he only completed 43% of his passes and turned the ball over three times in that SB, cementing his legacy as one of the least deserving MVP's and most over hyped players in league history.
@@mattb.2740 he was a unanimous mvp, lead the number 1 offense in the nfl with Ted gin jr as his main receiver…you sound like the biggest hater in the world😂
Quarterbacks can’t just be great without a good cast anymore. If a team didn’t need good weapons anymore then Mahomes would be 1st in mvp odds. Defenses are just too talented now that QBs need weapons and a decent scheme to be productive, no matter how talented they are. I won’t say any of those four wouldn’t work outside of their team, but they can’t tryout for every team to see how they’d do.
Besides, being a great QB isn’t just a physical thing or even some of the good ones wouldn’t need to sit behind people to be productive. If all it took for a QB to be good was be physically gifted, then Josh Allen would be great much earlier than his 3rd year.
the media decides who they wanna call a good qb even when the facts are there
They always come up with excuses, changing the goal post, "If he were on a different team" like what the f**k! They're not on different teams, they're on a team. This wouldn't couldn't or shouldn't, is straight bs.
@@dannybrazil3986 it’s really just hate and not wanting to admit they was wrong
Cam had 2 elite seasons at best 😂😂😂
It’s funny that the “game changers” he mentions not only have worse records but also are putting up a lot worse numbers than the “game managers”
Box score fan😂 cam had 3 years where whenever he stepped on the field, he was the best. That’s with Ted gun jr as his main dude
Don’t get it twisted
Compare Dak's career to Cams...Cam has 1 more playoff win in 38 more games played...Not to mention, the TD/Int ratio
Cam also had much less talent. Agent 89 was there for 3 seasons then he only had TE Greg until CMC got there but then Cam was injured. Please have context.
@@aswaswasw2323Cam had Steve Smith who had 6 1,000 yard receiving seasons, Greg Olson who had a 1,000 yards receiving and was a top 5-7 TE at the time CMC who made the pro bowl every year he was healthy not to mention Ted Ginn Jr but Cam was never accurate
Stats alone don't make you a game changer.
Cam was elite no matter who you put him with.
A supporting cast doesn't make you HIM.
You are that or you aren't.
@@SPORTS1000NFLCam was never elite
@user-lt1fx2he5s you got to be a bot cause Cam had Steve for 3 years
Cam wasn’t nearly accurate enough to take advantage of all those weapons lol
Accurate enough to win mvp lil bro stop hating and someone who dk you😭
What weapons?? Injured CMC??
@@bcamm3100 exactly it’s usually a bunch of racists or just kids who never watched cam fr fr
@@jovanflores4048ong it is 😂😂😂
Bruh y'all acting like he didn't have Steve Smith for 2 years or Greg Olsen yeah it might have been for short time but let's be honest they were running the wildcat a lot for cam newton
49ers have the fewest pass attempts in the league. Brock is not being asked to throw to win the game. Their pass game supplements the run game.
3:40 Everyone of us that knows football, except for Trent's family. 🤣
They didn't discuss Cam's final season in Carolina and New England seasons. He couldn't manage the game and couldn't be a game manager😂😂😂
According to Joy, That doesn't count
You make no sense if the two teams he was on roster was pathetic bro!
And cam almost had that bum patriots team in the playoffs. And he beat that loaded ravens defense
Joy said don't bring those up lol
Cam had a grown man launch into his shoulder and basically broke it he came back to New England and had a great 4 games then Covid happened🤷🏽♂️
@@Africa-BMCAM And cam almost had that bum patriots team in the playoffs
And what does it say that Mac Jones got them in and Cam couldn't?
Joy has no clue how using Trent Dilfer as any comparison is hilarious because that D literally kept all opposing teams under 10 points
Cam Newton was definitely a model of inconsistency for sure. 3 winning seasons, 7 losing seasons as a starter in Carolina. He wasn’t a GAME CHANGER in New England. The whole world knew he wasn’t going to do what Brady did. Cam might have won a few more games if he was a better game manager.
BTW…Niners are on the verge of having a 1000 receiving trio this season and they have a kid playing in his first full season at QB. This kind of stuff flies under the mainstream radar. That’s how winning QBs manage the game. Everyone is eating in the Niners receiving core.
So we gonna just dismiss Greg Olsen, Steve Smith, Johnathan Stewart??
They really gonna act like Cam didn't have steve Smith a top 10 defense Julius peppers n Greg Olson... smh ok
Exactly wtf
Steve smith literally was on the back end of his career when cam got their 😂
Purdy is a game changer
No he not the ppl around him are
Purdy has been a good QB in his short career. Let's see how he does in a full season or two, then we can make a judgment on him . He's not always going to have all of those weapons that he has around him now, then we can all judge him and I can promise you he will be average QB.
Yep. Take away one of his receivers, the team becomes junk. He absolutely is. Lmao.
@@davidpetroskyHe went 3-0 without Deebo last season. 🙄
@@frvshprinc3170He's elevating the players around him.
8:57 James; if you had Cam with the Niners (CMC , Deebo, Ayuik, Kittle) or put him in the Dallas Cowboys team with CeeDee, Pollard, Ferguson, Cooks and that all around All Pro Offensive players. Championships would have been won with Cam in those two teams
Brock Purdy, in his first full season is already a better quarterback. At this point than Cam Newton ever was in his career point blank.
Facts !!
As a Niner fan, I think Purdy is the best overall QB we have had since Jeff Garcia. He is athletic enough and accurate enough with a decent arm. What impresses me is his speedy decision making and low turnovers. His $0.9 million a year allows for a deep talent pool. If this works, it could break the NFL. There are maybe 7 elite QB's. The other 25 teams have nothing to lose for trying.
You have Shanahan, it cannot be overstated. Not just for the coaching and schemes and play calling but also for the squad building. Purdy fits perfectly, it is a match made in heaven but also Tua could, MAc Jones could and the ultimate Kirk Cousins would crush that system. This is why Purdy does not get as much love as he should just like Kirk didn't when putting up 4000 yards year in year out. You'd get to a stage where the scheme break down, injuries happen, crunch moments and that is when a Mahomes or Brady rise from the ashes. Purdy has not had that moment yet but I believe he will have it in the play-offs this season and he can be spoke differently about.
It has to go wrong or be going wrong for your team and YOU be the reason to be thought of differently. Don't get the same respect in a near perfect team with near perfect scheme and the best roster and weapons in the league.
No, he’s the best QB the Niners have had since Kapernick.
Easily true, and he might be better than Jeff in time.
Athletic enough? Accurate enough? Decent arm? Purdy is number one in a lot of things and his play shows that he is athletic and can outrun defensive ends, accurate at, and can sling it 40+ yards accurately with no issue. You a niners fan and you talking about the niners qb like he barely average lmao
@@BM-_ because he is honest. Purdy is a really good quarterback but we do not know how good he is because the squad, coaching and scheme is so good. I would just enjoy this moment whilst everything is working but just remember the winning percentage with Garoppolo was also insane when he was healthy.
Cam the turn over King
Still carried a higher winning percentage! 😂😂😂
@jerryvasquez8226 yeah you're right but he's also game manager just like all those people he called out yes he went to a sb and mvp but didn't win 🤔 🤷
@jermanerandle2731 watch his Bama vs Bama game! You talking about a Heisman, Champion! Came in the NFL and earned it! Brock Purdy was handed a job. " by any means necessary " Purdy hasn't won anything! Look at there resumes! 😍 the 😫 is Purdy fans don't know!🤑🤑🤑
@jermanerandle2731 you saying the same thing other people just shows that you're a follower! Don't fall off a cliff! 🤣🤣🤣
@jerryvasquez8226 and your not your just another hater
Just because you have a lot of weapons doesn't mean you're not good. Jimmy G had all those same weapons & contrary to what Nick Wright says, these 2 QBs are on a completely different level. Garoppolo was indeed a game manager that none of us Niners fans had any confidence in.
That if we needed to put the game on his shoulders he would carry us to victory. I've only ever seen Jimmy G carry us once in the whole time he was our QB1 & that was a regular season game in New Orleans. We have great confidence that if we need Purdy to carry us, he will.
And that's because of the eyeball test. We've seen Purdy play & we know he's not just a check down machine like a game manager is. He consistently throwing the ball down field with great accuracy. That throw he made late in the 4th qtr against the Seahawks on Thanksgiving in between 4 defenders, was amazing & something a game manager can not do.
nick has said purdy is better than jimmy g😂😂 all he said was he’s not the mvp nd yall are crying
@@truthtella3371 | Why though? Saying he isn't doesn't give us a reason why he's not.🤷🏽♂️
People forget Dak broke his leg in half... To me, it just seems it took him sometime to recover and get back to being fully comfortable. Plus, last year, a lot of his turnovers were not on him... Just saying.
Tom Brady "game managed" his way to become the Greatest QB to ever play the game...Cam Newton's gift was he could run as fast as the quickest man on defense and was as big as most of the linebackers.
So came greatest strength is that he was elite…thanks for acknowledging
McCaffrey, Stewart, Benjamin and Olson didn't play? Not sure why Cam takes out his shortcomings on others. His WRs weren't great because of QB play. Benjamin had a 1000 yard season and Olson was a beast. Notice how they moved on quick when they said imagine if he had Deebo, McCa..., Aiuyuk.
He was mainly hurt once McCaffrey got there. Stewart never had a 1,000 yrds rushing when Cam was there but Olsen did have 3 consecutive 1,000 yrd seasons
Exactly! And had a HOF defense! Like wtf
Casual take. During McCaffrey’s 2nd season when he just broke the 1k rushing yards line, Cam got hit in his throwing shoulder and was knocked out for the rest of the season (btw he was also having one of his best passing seasons to date completing 68% of his passes). So no he didn’t play with prime CMC. Kelvin Benjamin had 1k yards his rookie season and ate his way out of the NFL afterward. The only legit target Cam had was Olsen for about 3 seasons. So if Cam can go 15-1 with basically just throwing it to Olsen (Benjamin was out for the season in 2015) and a defense, Cam would have been going bananas with the 9ers offense. Or the Cowboys offense. Or the Dolphins with all that speed? Cmon man. You can not like a player but don’t discredit how great he was. Kelvin Benjamin lmfao this guy.
Exactly , qbs gets all glory but it’s like where’s the teams respect , luke, Thompson , Olsen , Norman
@@Eric-bq6gt best LB tandem in the league for almost half a decade as well.
Cam was a game changer... he had a LARGE affect on the game. He was either going to win it for you or lose it for you. Cam's "highs" were some of the highest, but his lows we LOW and happened too often. Ppl just remember how dynamic and "great" Cam was in MVP year. Most of his other years were up and down. He had good to great moments, but a lot of low moments as well.
It's like Brett Favre... he get the highest highs, but then you get the lowest lows.
Don’t ever disrespectful Favre by putting him in the same sentence with Cam. Favre won 3 mvps, a Super Bowl, and 6 time all pro to Cams 1 all pro
@@Sho-of6tiReggie white and that defense won that superbowl. Farve had a 29 interception year. Turnover machine. I take KURT WARNER over FARVE any day!
@@oscarwestbrook1155 what are you talking about ? Reggie White helped, but Brett Favre won MVP that year. 41 total tds and 13 ints. 6 total tds and 1 int in the playoffs that superbowl year. From 1994-1997 he he had 35 td to 14 int, 41 td to 13 int, 41 td to 13 int, 36 td to 16 int. Yea he had some years where he threw a crazy amount of picks, but Brett Favre had at least 6 years that were better than any year Cam Newton had
I think you guys are right none of these guys can be Cam. He had a unique skill set that made him an all time great. But like Joy said, it doesn't mean Brock can't be great at a different skill set. Brock obviously has great skill at throwing the ball accurately with anticipation and is able to throw to the second level better than anyone in the league right now and his stats prove that. Even though we cant say he is an all time great right now, imo he is the MVP of this league this year.
Cam at Auburn was fierce!!! As good as Cam was early on, Cam needs a clothing manager now.😂
The 49ers are winning big because of Brock Purdy. An average or lesser quarterback might skim by with these weapons and defense. Brock has taken this 49er team and has made them nearly a touchdown per game better than before. Its going to take more time for him to be an elite quarterback but right now, he deserves to be in the MVP conversation because he is making plays downfield and making his teammates better just as much as they are making him better.
Here is this as well.......When we talk about passing stats, Brock Purdy is on pace to beat Cam in yards thrown in a season, completion percentage in a season, yards per attempt, quarterback rating and QBR. Take any season of Cam's and Brock is going to shatter those numbers. Brock is never going to have the rushing stats as Cam but passing wise, he is leaps and bounds more accurate and decisive then Cam.
Jimmy g took them to a Super Bowl your take is not valid
@@Gmossy11Jimmy G was terrible
@@Gmossy11And Jimmy G never looked like this in the system. Plus Jimmy had a turnover problem
@@user-lt1fx2he5s and yet he still got to Super Bowl. If a bad, terrible qb can take them to the Super Bowl then Purdy should win at least back to back super bowls
@@Gmossy11lmao jimmy “took” the Niners to Super Bowl by throwing 8 passes in nfc championship lol hindsight 20/20? Foolish take
Funny how they always said it wasn't enough sample size but only have 3 (I REPEAT 3) LOSSES ON His name as of yet..... But those 3 LOSSES are enough sample size in bad games... Smh
Beautiful take! I can't wait for the episode I've been waiting for this moment to show Cam Newtons take age this well lol
How do you go to Joy for her take, after talking about someone's credentials smh. She can barely think for herself, and she talks in circles smh
Game Manager is not a bad thing Purdy knows when and were to go with the ball, decision making and accuracy are the # 1-2 traits, that's why Cam had to rely on his physical gifts and run the ball was he a difference maker yes but even Steve Young had to learn how to spin the ball with accuracy to win a Chip, look at Brady's Physical gifts # 1-2
Roger Staubach won heisman, NFL MVP 1971, 2/4 super bowls, Super Bowl MVP…He loves Dak!
this will be great if Cam will show up on the show or any sports show that brings up this topic. give him to analyze why he mentioned QBs as a Game Changer
Cam wasn’t dunking on them Niners tho 🥱🥱
Joe Montana is a game manager in Joys eyes because if she actually watch how Joe Montana played, he played exactly like Purdy. He doesnt do no look passes, throw like Farve, he doesnt run around like Vick. Joy and these people need to know about football to have opinions we can count on. Feels like they dont
I think Joy was referring to Troy Aikmen
Joe Montana was just as clutch as Kobe Bryant
Who cares what Cam Newton thinks? He's not relevant. This is the guy that after a year with the Patriots, had a rookie QB (Mac Jones), instructing him on how a play was suppose to unfold.
During that stretch of losing games Purdy was hit and dealing with concussion symptoms. Even when cleared he was still dealing with those symptoms. That affected his play just like Tua last year.
Meh he finished the game and played the very next week on a short week, not buying the concussion excuse he played poorly again against the bengals
Purdy is a game manager
No disrespect to Cam, but why not reflect on his second season in the NFL compared to Dak’s & Purdy’s second season. It took Cam several years to get MVP and no ring. If Purdy gets MVP and a ring in his 2nd season, will Cam have a different opinion?
Something tells me Cam didn’t watch any film on Brock or Dak and just ran his mouth
He had one great MVP season which he won MVP, which he went to the superbowl and lost and never went back. Has never won a superbowl.
@@alexnavarro2447I fixed my comment. thanks! Also, I believe it was his 5th season when he got MVP.
@@user-lt1fx2he5sthis. This is the comment.
Cam was in the same division as Drew Brees and Matt Ryan and how that turn out for him
Y’all low key over rating cam…. He’s NOT a top 20 all time QB…. Not at all…. What are y’all talking about man…. Let me just say this…. He’s not a hall of fame QB…. And it’s more than 20 QBs in the hall of fame
There musta been multiple Cam Newton’s…because the one I remember loved to air mail wide open receivers, scramble if the 1st read wasn’t open, and always make a play to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory during big moments.
Anyone know what Cam these peeps are referring to?
Brock slangs it. He processes QUICK. Cam threw dirt balls.
Brock is nowhere near the level of Cam, don’t ever compare the two
@@n.willy4864you right he’s better then cam already. Cam had one good year, Brock’s already out doing that year.
Correct. He's a better quarterback than Cam in his 2nd year. @@n.willy4864
@@haloiscool1235Purdy can’t do that with trash WRs like cam had
@@maxjones8641 I think he wouldn’t have even hit the wrs if he did have the weapons. Cam had compilation parentage in the 50s 7 out of his 10 years.
Maybe if Cam had learned to manage the game, he could be still playing. That is what I am hearing some former players and some coaches.
Just because someone plays longer don’t mean they have a better career. Fitzpatrick played for 20 years and didn’t accomplish anything close to Cam
Alex smith as well. Quit hating
In the end of the day you play with what you have and cam did. He was great at it. Remember when he came back to New England hardly any practice really man. You went to the Seattle game and he looked like cam Newton NFL IS rigged they don't want CAM to dominate.
She's dead wrong, being called a game manager is most definitely an insult to a QB. Which is why everyone takes it as such. When you call a QB a game manager, what you're really saying is that they are not good enough to be a QB who can go out there & sling it. Who can put your team on your back & carry them to victory. Being labeled a game manager pretty much means you are just there to throw check downs, with the occasional 15-20 yarder. Basically don't eff things up & let our real stars win it for us.
There were 2-4 teams TOPS for decades that were known to land in the Super Bowl give or take a season here and there...This season wide open
Question: if the vikings, browns, and bengals are held against purdy then why is dak not under fire for not being able to beat the cardinals? Who was injured for the cowboys in that cardinals game?
3 starting lineman, and wr 2…
bro dak is what are you talking about and cowboys were actually missing half their roster unlike the niners
@dillon5267 appreciate that update. Thanks
Because it don’t fit the narrative they pushing
Add all pro Diggs who had just tore his acl a few days before the game. 3 OL. Im forgetting someone else but they were pretty beat up that game.
Nah it’s crazy how far wow factor and athleticism will take you and not actually playing the sport to these dudes
I wish i could get paid to not know wtf im talking about 😂