@ You must be a little older than I (52) and I probably tried to hold on because I got into the NRA because of my dad. I miss the old days when it was more about learning, teaching and sharing. When we promoted firearms safety and responsibility in handling, storage and sales. I read somewhere that only four percent of firearms owners in America were members and that begs the question of where they get all their money from, can’t be dues. Ah well, either they will learn and change or go extinct. Be safe
@@raydrexler5868 I know...the older days were about that stuff.... politics and lobbying brings out the worst in many...even in churches...when personal agendas lose sight of the many for the sake of the few.
@ I believe we’re all more good than bad, but bad gets more attention. I see it when something bad happens and we all come together to help total strangers. I refuse to lose faith. Be safe
Not until ALL the people who were in charge under LaPierre are gone, and a lot of them are still there. They have a long way to go to win back the trust they destroyed.
That's always the problem with bad leadership, they pack the board with people just like them then even if they bail out in their golden parachute their ideas are still everywhere.
"...the people who were in charge under LaPierre are gone...." won't be gone until they're voted out. What will YOU do to vote them out? If you aren't a vote-eligible member, YOU can't help vote them out. *itching from the outside does nothing to help. Join and help us restore the the integrity and power of the NRA!
@@BlaineNay Nope. I won't join. They broke it, they can fix it. They are not going to get my money or support to do as they please. You all made the bed.
@@JohnDeering-u8f I did the same. I signed up at a gun show. Seriously thought I had been scammed until I called them directly to confirm I was an actual member. The person on the phone didn’t hesitate… as if they have received those types of calls in the past.
I left the NRA 2 months after I joined. Within 8 weeks I received over a dozen mailers asking for renewals and donations. I actually called them directly to make sure it wasn’t a scam.
They were a money-making venture. They may have started out with pretty decent intentions, but that fell by the wayside very quickly with people like Wayne . They don't really even care about the second amendment. They care about a certain demographic being able to own guns I.e rich Christian white men. Anybody else can take a hike as far as they are concerned. If you go on the website, the entire thing is just designed to scare the hell out of old white people. They're always fear-mongering about immigrants or gay people or whatever group they think is going to scare
I used to take all that crap, write “fire Wayne and half of the board” all over it and stuff it back into their prepaid envelope and send it back to them. They don’t send me mailers anymore.
If you had paid attention to the candidates they supported and the candidates they opposed, you would have dumped them long before the financial problems surfaced.
They lost me in 2012 after I read the Forbes magazine article. 250 million pass through their hands the year before and only 10 million were spent on lobbying and legislation. And they were in the red. 🤦🏻♂️
I got some stupid coins from them & they sit as my Wind Chimes on the backyard @ the 20M Airgun Range. Done same to NASCAR Hot wheels , none were collectibles lol
The Firearms Policy Coalition, the Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America. These are the organizations that have proven themselves worthing of my support.
None of these hold a candle to the NRA and I’m a life members to all but the one that doesn’t have life membership the FPC. The others fight court battles. Great but not much compared to what the NRA does.
Good point. Being guilty of not being too concerned, many...like myself needs someone smart enough to list specifics and then members can create a front to emphasize the grievances and petition for redress. Like a "club" that grows so big it's easier to let the power brokers broker the power. I think Hickok is trying to say this. We'd agree complaining alone goes nowhere.
The NRA leadership you and i detest won't be gone until they're voted out. What will YOU do to vote them out? If you aren't a vote-eligible member, YOU can't help vote them out. *itching from the outside does nothing to help. Join and help us restore the the integrity and power of the NRA! There are some really good candidates on the ballot this year. With your help we can turn the NRA around within the next few months.
Thirty years ago I had enough of the NRA's thirst for money. I liked the American Rifleman magazine and thought that it was a great deal for the cost of membership dues and I would be helping to maintain gun ownership rights. But when I started getting mail with requests for more money to support more acronyms than I could fathom, I added up the postage and realised that the NRA spent more money on postage than what I had payed in dues to get me to get them even more money. Which made me think they must have more than enough money and I don't nead to give them anymore.
I'm a life member who hasn't resigned but who hasn't donated for several years. I wish them well in turning around but am not convinced it has happened yet. In the meantime, GOA, SAF, and FPC get my support.
The NRA used to be the only group fighting for our 2A rights. That isn't the case anymore. IMO the NRA needs to be LOUD about the fact that is a different organization from what it was under the former CEO and is returning to its roots, doing what it has always done best. The strengths of the NRA have always been a) its various programs (clubs, training, competitions and such), and b) its lobbying against anti-2A candidates in key races. We have a swathe of republicans who support red flag laws right now because they have no fear of the NRA. If it leverages these strengths hard I think it can make a name for itself. Especially with the training and advocacy of safe firearm ownership, it can gain itself a lot of credibility with normies who like their 2A rights but are concerned that people are not responsible with their firearms. Maybe they could do some sort of partnership with the FPC, collaborate on legislation, get their members as parties to class action lawsuits. If they can say with their fundraising emails "here is what we have done to protect your 2A rights in the last month" and have bullet points showing things they have actually done that are making a difference people will come around and not be able to deny that they have their place.
The expensive suits and vacations are not the NRA's first rodeo. Decades ago another Executive VP raised eye-brows over chssing femaile employees around his desk a la Groucho Marx. The NRA's agressive FUND! RAISING! thrust has been an eternal irritant. Consant Telephone solicitations. snail mail bombarements trying to shame members into sending more money have done much to drive member away-particullarly now that the NRA is not the only or most effective voice
Respectable people wont' be in NRA leadership unless they are voted in. *itching from the outside will not accomplish that. There are some very good candidates on the ballot this year. With your help we can turn the NRA around within the next few months.
I am an Endowment Life member and not giving up what I paid for decades ago. Since I am a Life member, I get the free monthly magazine and benefits under the membership. So, the NRA does not cost me anything. Perhaps, someday their leadership will improve the NRA.
The NRA - with all their issues - still serves two very important roles. 1) they are still premier and most recognized in training and certifications and 2) they take the focus off of the other organizations that have been busy filing lawsuits and pushing things through the courts. Let the liberal states and the media keep focusing on the NRA while others press on with getting things done.
With so many of the same people still employed at the NRA (LaPierre fan club), the problem still exists. I want to know what new checks and balances have been enacted to prevent LaPierre 2.0
An new Officer who reports to the Board of Directors ONLY, and nit the CEO. This is a major change, (and having worked as an internal auditor I know). Should have always been that way.
Sometimes, most times, the divorce is worth it. Fool me once,.. I've been giving more to local conservation efforts. and I'm not even a hunter! Just a paper puncher.
Lifetime member of The Second Amendment Foundation and a lifetime member also of it's sister organization The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. The SAF is by far the most effective 2A group getting our firearms rights restored and protected. The SAF constantly is fighting and winning in courts throughout the US. Please everyone consider joining one or both.
I am a life member NRA member. I too desire they get their shit together and embrace the 2A. Some years back, in Austin, Texas, at the state capital, who was there working their tails off lobbying each and every member in the state House for Constitutional carry? It was NOT the NRA. It was GOA of Texas, myself and lots of ordinary citizens, shooting clubs, instructors, and more. The RINO Governor Abbott signed the law into effect with Wayne present and praised him. That was a victory lap the Governor and NRA got for zero work. That entire process taught me, join GOA pal. Since then? GOA has only gotten better!! If you are not a member, please join. We need as many people as we can get. GOA is very pro-active in the legal fighting and legislative fight for our rights.
I truly hope so Mr. Hickok. The history of there fighting for human rights is almost as long as the Bill of Rights. I’d like to see them go back to that time.
Times are real hard, especially for elderly, handicapped and on SS only. I just re uped with GOA last week, thinking about Gun Owners of Oklahoma, BUT, it's going to take a while for me to have any trust in the NRA again. As bad as LaPerrier was, it takes More than One Person, to get to that point.
I'm 78 years old, been a yearly member of the NRA from about the late 80's until about 12 years ago and then I just quit. Why, you wonder? Well it was because I recieved their magazine every month with all these great editorials in them about the gun grabbing, 2A rights grabbing Democrats. Yeah, all this information was being read by us like minded conservatives but not one democrat ever read it (figuratively of course). The NRA was always preaching to the choir so to speak. So I wrote Wayne a letter asking him why all these great editorials were being put in the major newspapers in democrat run cities. Someone actually wrote me back with his signature on it and said it was because it cost too much. So we pay for a magazine that tells us what we want to hear, but it cost too much to tell the democrats the truth. BS. I quit.
Listen, aside from being an American patriot, I’m not a “life member” of anything aside from the VFW & that was a near mistake when they voted in a woke national commander a few years back. I am done with the NRA, AMVETS, & any other fraternal or lobbying group who puts their own power & profit ahead of their members. I’m a 65yo retired vet who will happily donate my time, energy, & $$ to causes & politics that align with American conservative values. Great topic as usual.
SEVERAL YEARS ago, when it came out that they were spending our membership money like a bunch of drunken sailors on closets full of ten thousand dollar suits, and private jets to exotic locations with prostitutes, I was done with them.
What are YOU doing to help the NRA continue to clean up its act? We have 28 reform candidates on the ballot this year to displace Wayne LaPierre's cronies. Are YOU going to help vote them in? Only members have the right and poser to vote. *itching from the outside does nothing to help.
@ Telling people to stop bitching does not help. If you want support tell people what you are for. I am for getting the NRA back to helping gun owners. The NRA right now is like the lumbering federal government. I still get last notices to sign up for the NRA when I’ve been signed up for years.
I’m 48 and was a member of the NRA since I took my firearms safety course at age 11, but about 2 years ago I was almost finished with the payment plan for life membership and the card I was having my automatic payment taken out of expired and I didn’t catch it until a few months later and when I contacted NRA they said because I had skipped payments that I would have to start the payment plan over again…to me all that said is they were out for the money, hope in the future that changes, but after that I because a lifetime member of GOA.
Life Member for 30 years, chief instructor for 10 years. NRA provided a lot of useful info and services to our club over the years. Now that WLP is gone, I expect and hope they will return to their former level of performance as far as our gun rights, services to clubs, the shooting sports, and training...
Hope not ! NRA helped write the '68 Gun Control Act, sold out on the machinegun freeze, took a walk on the Domestic Violence Protection Act, supported the Bush "assault" rifle ban, supported gun-free schools and the plastic gun ban as well as the armor-piecing bullet ban. Oh, and no unsupervised use of guns by children....,
My gun club which is my only outlet for my range time requires a NRA subscription for my membership…. I wish it didn’t but I don’t have a Hickock backyard range to plink on..
@@bryanschaffer2100 mine requires either NRA or TSRA. have run into some unerhandedess from tsra as well..I'll just keep paying NRA and dial back any expectations might have entertained since 1959. While NRA was effective, I didn't really mind that Wayne had nice things. The real evil comes from the Soros Democrat appointees that went after the NRA
My mom likes their Rifleman magazine. She's 88 years old now. The NRA didn't really EVER do anything for what I expected them to do. They just took our money at every opportunity. .
As a NRA Patron Life Member, Ive had enough of NRAs scandals and tonedeaf advocacy of ANY politician so long as they vote pro-gun. Theyd back the devil himself so long as he said he was pro 2A. NOT good enough! Theyve become short sighted and miopic. My support now goes to GOA.
Once again, the NRA is not just a “gun rights” organization. Unlike all the other groups mentioned, it was founded and continues to promote marksmanship and firearms ownership in all kinds of ways. Let’s hope it can get back to being the great organization it was for over a hundred years. Give them a chance.
I have too much skin in the NRA to give up. I will stay and work toward getting out with the bad old and in with the good new. The hardest part is identifying who is who. You have to pick the ones you trust and take it from there.
Even with its problems, the NRA has more dues-paid membership, influence, and money than all the other gun-rights organizations combined. When was the last time the anti-rights crowd expressed fear or hatred of GOA? The focus on the big dog in the gun-rights fight. They know that GOA only tackles the easy problems -- so GOA can proudly say they don't compromise. Only the NRA has ever been in the really hard battles. Example: The NRA was there for the 1994 "assault-weapon" ban battle. The NRA was able to get a ten-year sunset built into the bill. So, in 2004, that ban was gone. Where were GOA and the other gun-rights organizations for that fight? The NRA is coming back. We have 28 reform-minded candidates on the ballot this year. If YOU join as a voting-eligible member, YOU can help get them in. *itching from the outside does nothing.
It takes a lifetime to recover from what they've done (not a comment on your age BTW - none of us are getting any younger). As a Brit with approximately zero gun rights, I'd suggest fondly remembering their VERY distant past, and move forward with some of the incredible new organisations who've grabbed the wheel and are moving things in the right direction.
If the NRA could ditch the politicians, and politics, and return to it's core values- gun education, gun safety, and defense of America - it would re-energize the membership and create an attraction for new members.
john and hickock (i dont delve into your personal stuff that might be availiable, and advise you to be careful) you are both great folks here and made youtube better. again. In the end. i hope you just know how special you two are and love eachother and that life is good. i miss my dad.
At one time, the NRA was a good organization, but like a lot of organizations, they took advantage of their members. I canceled my and my sons membership years ago and will probably never renew it again. Once trust is broken, it is very difficult to get it back.
I knew a guy that was a NRA member for a very long time, so they sent him a few things in the mail for being a member for a long time ,one thing was a pocket knife, and it was a pretty decent "looking" pocket knife, but under all that it said made in China, he called them and raised heck about that, told them he was sending the stuff back and to eliminate his memebership..I agree that's ridiculous..
Being guilty of not being too concerned, many...like myself needs someone smart enough to list specifics and then members can create a front to emphasize the grievances and petition for redress. Like a "club" that grows so big it's easier to let the power brokers broker the power. I think Hickok is trying to say this. We'd agree complaining alone goes nowhere.
I joined the NRA in 1971 when I was a sophomore or junior in high school. I’ve been a life member for a long time, Patron level. They need a complete overhaul top to bottom. La Pierre was just a symptom of a greater problem.
That "greater problem" is fading fast. We have 28 great reform candidates on the ballot for board of directors this year. If YOU are a voting-eligible member, you can help complete the overhaul this year. *itching from the outside does nothing to help.
The NRA served the community well and then lost its way because of the leadership. I'm still waiting for a change in leadership and also a restoration of their dignity and direction. At this moment, no, I cannot support it. Other groups have stepped up and are doing the work very well.
Even with its rapidly-fading problems, the NRA has more due-paying members, influence, and money than all the "other groups" combined. We have 28 reform board candidates on the ballot this year. With YOUR help we can get them in and complete the restoration of NRA integrity and power. *itching from the outside helps nobody.
I didn't leave the NRA, they left me.....
I left when they lobbied for the Patriot Act.
@raydrexler5868 I stopped dealing with them in '92.
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You must be a little older than I (52) and I probably tried to hold on because I got into the NRA because of my dad. I miss the old days when it was more about learning, teaching and sharing. When we promoted firearms safety and responsibility in handling, storage and sales. I read somewhere that only four percent of firearms owners in America were members and that begs the question of where they get all their money from, can’t be dues. Ah well, either they will learn and change or go extinct. Be safe
@@raydrexler5868 I know...the older days were about that stuff.... politics and lobbying brings out the worst in many...even in churches...when personal agendas lose sight of the many for the sake of the few.
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I believe we’re all more good than bad, but bad gets more attention. I see it when something bad happens and we all come together to help total strangers. I refuse to lose faith. Be safe
NRA was more concerned with lining their top executive pockets than helping its members.
Sounds like most companies nowadays.
When LaPierre's suit costs more than most members' daily driver, you might have a problem with image.
This is exactly why I left. And what a shame, as the NRA was once a voice needed by many Americans.
@@kpfagerberg yeah, except the NRA was supposed to be a non-profit organization!
Not until ALL the people who were in charge under LaPierre are gone, and a lot of them are still there. They have a long way to go to win back the trust they destroyed.
They were certainly well dressed at the expense of members
That's always the problem with bad leadership, they pack the board with people just like them then even if they bail out in their golden parachute their ideas are still everywhere.
That's for sure!
"...the people who were in charge under LaPierre are gone...." won't be gone until they're voted out. What will YOU do to vote them out? If you aren't a vote-eligible member, YOU can't help vote them out. *itching from the outside does nothing to help. Join and help us restore the the integrity and power of the NRA!
@@BlaineNay Nope. I won't join. They broke it, they can fix it. They are not going to get my money or support to do as they please. You all made the bed.
Got tired of the NRA sending me letters asking for donation every 2 weeks after I joined. I fired them.
Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
@@BlaineNayThere are plenty of other actual pro-2A organizations that are doing great work in the courts. We don’t need the NRA.
@@JohnDeering-u8f I did the same. I signed up at a gun show. Seriously thought I had been scammed until I called them directly to confirm I was an actual member. The person on the phone didn’t hesitate… as if they have received those types of calls in the past.
I abandoned them because they were spending too much money on mailing me unsolicited offers,many years ago.
@@BlaineNayYep, and Letitia James.
Yet another, once respected organization who chose personal benefit over morality.
NRA president Oliver North just resigned in 2019 because he smelled a skunk.
North left because LaPierre was going to force him out. See Tim Mak's book, "Misfire".
And that's saying something since North himself is a criminal.
I left the NRA 2 months after I joined. Within 8 weeks I received over a dozen mailers asking for renewals and donations. I actually called them directly to make sure it wasn’t a scam.
They were a money-making venture. They may have started out with pretty decent intentions, but that fell by the wayside very quickly with people like Wayne . They don't really even care about the second amendment. They care about a certain demographic being able to own guns I.e rich Christian white men. Anybody else can take a hike as far as they are concerned.
If you go on the website, the entire thing is just designed to scare the hell out of old white people. They're always fear-mongering about immigrants or gay people or whatever group they think is going to scare
I used to take all that crap, write “fire Wayne and half of the board” all over it and stuff it back into their prepaid envelope and send it back to them. They don’t send me mailers anymore.
Ew! I like that!
I was a member about 10 years ago and then I heard about the stupid crap they did with our money and I decided I was done with them !
Me too. Was a member for 35 years, but after I heard about Wayne, I didn't renew.
If you had paid attention to the candidates they supported and the candidates they opposed, you would have dumped them long before the financial problems surfaced.
They lost me in 2012 after I read the Forbes magazine article. 250 million pass through their hands the year before and only 10 million were spent on lobbying and legislation. And they were in the red. 🤦🏻♂️
I got some stupid coins from them & they sit as my Wind Chimes on the backyard @ the 20M Airgun Range. Done same to NASCAR Hot wheels , none were collectibles lol
Im old. i was for a long time, long ago. As soon as Wayne appeared, you could see the change. I was out soon afterward.
The Firearms Policy Coalition, the Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America. These are the organizations that have proven themselves worthing of my support.
None of these hold a candle to the NRA and I’m a life members to all but the one that doesn’t have life membership the FPC. The others fight court battles. Great but not much compared to what the NRA does.
No they abandoned us for years, your the best thanks for another video 🇺🇸
I have them in the same category as USCCA right now. They screwed us for too long.
The members should file a class action lawsuit against the NRA Board of Directors. It was their job to monitor Wayne LaPierre. THAT WAS THEIR JOB!
Good point. Being guilty of not being too concerned, many...like myself needs someone smart enough to list specifics and then members can create a front to emphasize the grievances and petition for redress. Like a "club" that grows so big it's easier to let the power brokers broker the power. I think Hickok is trying to say this. We'd agree complaining alone goes nowhere.
The first step is to change the directors. A good first step has been made. There are more to be voted out.
If a guy has an Armani suit allowance, he doesn’t need to be in any organization.
As long as ANY of the NRA that assisted and enabled Wayne and his crew is at the NRA I will never again be a member.
The NRA leadership you and i detest won't be gone until they're voted out. What will YOU do to vote them out? If you aren't a vote-eligible member, YOU can't help vote them out. *itching from the outside does nothing to help. Join and help us restore the the integrity and power of the NRA! There are some really good candidates on the ballot this year. With your help we can turn the NRA around within the next few months.
@@BlaineNay Dream on. The NRA is rotten and will always be rotten---so stop copying and pasting your pathetic post.
Thirty years ago I had enough of the NRA's thirst for money.
I liked the American Rifleman magazine and thought that it was a great deal for the cost of membership dues and I would be helping to maintain gun ownership rights. But when I started getting mail with requests for more money to support more acronyms than I could fathom, I added up the postage and realised that the NRA spent more money on postage than what I had payed in dues to get me to get them even more money.
Which made me think they must have more than enough money and I don't nead to give them anymore.
I'm a life member who hasn't resigned but who hasn't donated for several years. I wish them well in turning around but am not convinced it has happened yet.
In the meantime, GOA, SAF, and FPC get my support.
The very fact that they elected the very people that approved Wayne's expenses shows they aren't ready to change.
The NRA used to be the only group fighting for our 2A rights. That isn't the case anymore. IMO the NRA needs to be LOUD about the fact that is a different organization from what it was under the former CEO and is returning to its roots, doing what it has always done best. The strengths of the NRA have always been a) its various programs (clubs, training, competitions and such), and b) its lobbying against anti-2A candidates in key races. We have a swathe of republicans who support red flag laws right now because they have no fear of the NRA. If it leverages these strengths hard I think it can make a name for itself. Especially with the training and advocacy of safe firearm ownership, it can gain itself a lot of credibility with normies who like their 2A rights but are concerned that people are not responsible with their firearms. Maybe they could do some sort of partnership with the FPC, collaborate on legislation, get their members as parties to class action lawsuits. If they can say with their fundraising emails "here is what we have done to protect your 2A rights in the last month" and have bullet points showing things they have actually done that are making a difference people will come around and not be able to deny that they have their place.
The expensive suits and vacations are not the NRA's first rodeo. Decades ago another Executive VP raised eye-brows over chssing femaile employees around his desk a la Groucho Marx. The NRA's agressive FUND! RAISING! thrust has been an eternal irritant. Consant Telephone solicitations. snail mail bombarements trying to shame members into sending more money have done much to drive member away-particullarly now that the NRA is not the only or most effective voice
"Fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
-Unknown-
I stopped supporting them many years ago, and the guy at the NRA booth at the gun show hates me now
I hope they change.
I hope they get better.
But I'm not holding my breath.
There are other organizations and individuals I'll support in the meantime.
Dream on ! The NRA is never going to rid itself of corruption and selling out.
They will have to earn our respect and trust again. Thank you for addressing this!
Respectable people wont' be in NRA leadership unless they are voted in. *itching from the outside will not accomplish that. There are some very good candidates on the ballot this year. With your help we can turn the NRA around within the next few months.
@@BlaineNay You are in fantasy land. The NRA isn't salvageable and I was a member for over 30 years.
Current president of NRA was the person approving LP's expense claims.
Well, at least they're not paying for $15,000 suits anymore!
They can no longer afford to.
I am an Endowment Life member and not giving up what I paid for decades ago. Since I am a Life member, I get the free monthly magazine and benefits under the membership. So, the NRA does not cost me anything. Perhaps, someday their leadership will improve the NRA.
The NRA - with all their issues - still serves two very important roles. 1) they are still premier and most recognized in training and certifications and 2) they take the focus off of the other organizations that have been busy filing lawsuits and pushing things through the courts. Let the liberal states and the media keep focusing on the NRA while others press on with getting things done.
Not buying it unless they turn it around.
They only get $10.00 a year from me so I can keep my Training Credentials. We train hundreds of mostly kids per year.
@@terrysnyder3599 I still have the minimum membership also but may not renew this year.
Good point.
The NRA swallows millions of dollars that could be used to defend our rights if given to honest groups like Firearms Coalition and JPFO.
With so many of the same people still employed at the NRA (LaPierre fan club), the problem still exists. I want to know what new checks and balances have been enacted to prevent LaPierre 2.0
An new Officer who reports to the Board of Directors ONLY, and nit the CEO. This is a major change, (and having worked as an internal auditor I know). Should have always been that way.
Three guesses !
Lose respect, lose trust... the relationship is over.
Sometimes, most times, the divorce is worth it. Fool me once,..
I've been giving more to local conservation efforts. and I'm not even a hunter! Just a paper puncher.
Nope, not for me. The NRA can fold for all care.
You wanna wind up the the UK or Canada? You can't even have a knife that locks in those kinda places.
@@219garryMaybe there will be a better, different organization formed that will replace the NRA.
GOA
Way better organization fighting the courts for our 2A rights
That's why there is GOA, FPC ETC...@@219garry
@@219garry what does that have to do with anything???? nra has never been more than a slush fund for LaPierre;s wardrobes and jet trips.
Lifetime member of The Second Amendment Foundation and a lifetime member also of it's sister organization The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. The SAF is by far the most effective 2A group getting our firearms rights restored and protected. The SAF constantly is fighting and winning in courts throughout the US. Please everyone consider joining one or both.
No redemption with me.
Why?
@@MalachiWhite-tw7hl Because NRA is rotten to the last board member.
I am a life member NRA member. I too desire they get their shit together and embrace the 2A. Some years back, in Austin, Texas, at the state capital, who was there working their tails off lobbying each and every member in the state House for Constitutional carry? It was NOT the NRA. It was GOA of Texas, myself and lots of ordinary citizens, shooting clubs, instructors, and more. The RINO Governor Abbott signed the law into effect with Wayne present and praised him. That was a victory lap the Governor and NRA got for zero work. That entire process taught me, join GOA pal. Since then? GOA has only gotten better!! If you are not a member, please join. We need as many people as we can get. GOA is very pro-active in the legal fighting and legislative fight for our rights.
I’ve been done with the NRA for a long time.
Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
I truly hope so Mr. Hickok. The history of there fighting for human rights is almost as long as the Bill of Rights. I’d like to see them go back to that time.
They always were sell-outs.
"Beware the snake that speaks with its tail...
Leaving it's head free to strike."
Patous Magore
Times are real hard, especially for elderly, handicapped and on SS only.
I just re uped with GOA last week, thinking about Gun Owners of Oklahoma, BUT, it's going to take a while for me to have any trust in the NRA again.
As bad as LaPerrier was, it takes More than One Person, to get to that point.
0:19 Good to hear even Hicko45 isn't out here kink-shaming. A true gentleman!
I'm 78 years old, been a yearly member of the NRA from about the late 80's until about 12 years ago and then I just quit. Why, you wonder? Well it was because I recieved their magazine every month with all these great editorials in them about the gun grabbing, 2A rights grabbing Democrats. Yeah, all this information was being read by us like minded conservatives but not one democrat ever read it (figuratively of course). The NRA was always preaching to the choir so to speak. So I wrote Wayne a letter asking him why all these great editorials were being put in the major newspapers in democrat run cities. Someone actually wrote me back with his signature on it and said it was because it cost too much. So we pay for a magazine that tells us what we want to hear, but it cost too much to tell the democrats the truth. BS. I quit.
Been in NRA for years. safety and training they are the best! Sick of all the paper in my mailbox! Glad Wayne is gone.
@@bearray57 The safety of our money is what concerns me.
Listen, aside from being an American patriot, I’m not a “life member” of anything aside from the VFW & that was a near mistake when they voted in a woke national commander a few years back. I am done with the NRA, AMVETS, & any other fraternal or lobbying group who puts their own power & profit ahead of their members. I’m a 65yo retired vet who will happily donate my time, energy, & $$ to causes & politics that align with American conservative values. Great topic as usual.
SEVERAL YEARS ago, when it came out that they were spending our membership money like a bunch of drunken sailors on closets full of ten thousand dollar suits, and private jets to exotic locations with prostitutes, I was done with them.
The NRA must clean up their act. No more spending our contributions on private matters.
What are YOU doing to help the NRA continue to clean up its act? We have 28 reform candidates on the ballot this year to displace Wayne LaPierre's cronies. Are YOU going to help vote them in? Only members have the right and poser to vote. *itching from the outside does nothing to help.
@@BlaineNay Too late ! Fool me once...
@@BeefT-Sq Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
@ Telling people to stop bitching does not help. If you want support tell people what you are for. I am for getting the NRA back to helping gun owners. The NRA right now is like the lumbering federal government. I still get last notices to sign up for the NRA when I’ve been signed up for years.
I’m 48 and was a member of the NRA since I took my firearms safety course at age 11, but about 2 years ago I was almost finished with the payment plan for life membership and the card I was having my automatic payment taken out of expired and I didn’t catch it until a few months later and when I contacted NRA they said because I had skipped payments that I would have to start the payment plan over again…to me all that said is they were out for the money, hope in the future that changes, but after that I because a lifetime member of GOA.
Life Member for 30 years, chief instructor for 10 years. NRA provided a lot of useful info and services to our club over the years. Now that WLP is gone, I expect and hope they will return to their former level of performance as far as our gun rights, services to clubs, the shooting sports, and training...
Hope not ! NRA helped write the '68 Gun Control Act, sold out on the machinegun freeze, took a walk on the Domestic Violence Protection Act, supported the Bush "assault" rifle ban, supported gun-free schools and the plastic gun ban as well as the armor-piecing bullet ban. Oh, and no unsupervised use of guns by children....,
My gun club which is my only outlet for my range time requires a NRA subscription for my membership…. I wish it didn’t but I don’t have a Hickock backyard range to plink on..
I dropped my membership years ago with all the LaPierre stuff. At this point I don't care what happens to them.
I left them many years go when it got too political and I was constantly harassed about giving money ALL the time.
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Also, uber 2A. Long time listener first time caller.. always enjoy your content.. thank you Hickok for what you do..
I hope he's got enough suits so he don't have to buy none
The war is not ment to be won. It's ment to be continued. Orwell.
I think you ment mint.
@@todd8051 meant.
I’m only a member because I’m a member of a gun club that requires it to maintain membership.
IBID.
Which is BS in itself. It's the reason I can't (won't) join many clubs around me.
Same, club requires it. And it bothers me..
@@bryanschaffer2100 mine requires either NRA or TSRA.
have run into some unerhandedess from tsra as well..I'll just keep paying NRA and dial back any expectations might have entertained since 1959. While NRA was effective, I didn't really mind that Wayne had nice things. The real evil comes from the Soros Democrat appointees that went after the NRA
I was a member years ago and became tired of Wayne. I left 30 years ago
Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
I agree with you ole boy. I know you took a lot of heat in the past but I think you are a class act. I wouldn’t mind seeing you in there.
When was the NRA seriously behind 2A, "...the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"? Answer: NEVER.
Bingo !
I'm a lifetime member. I bought it years ago. They keep asking me to upgrade. I only have one life.
My mom likes their Rifleman magazine. She's 88 years old now. The NRA didn't really EVER do anything for what I expected them to do. They just took our money at every opportunity. .
When they traded machine gun rights off during the Reagan era I was done - completely.
Hand violence, foot violence, knife violence, talking violence. Why no laws
No never again, they would still be doing it to this day if they didn’t get caught.
When Lapierre is in jail
I stopped my membership in the N R A after 45 years. Sad what they have done. My family were all members. 4 of them.
As a NRA Patron Life Member, Ive had enough of NRAs scandals and tonedeaf advocacy of ANY politician so long as they vote pro-gun. Theyd back the devil himself so long as he said he was pro 2A.
NOT good enough! Theyve become short sighted and miopic. My support now goes to GOA.
All their directors and leaders should be non-paid volunteers.
I'm done with'em. I let my membership expire 3 years ago and ain't go'in back.
Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
Nahh, not to me!!🤭🤔 The ONLY THING that would get me to become a member again is if HICKOK45 was the new NRA PRESIDENT!!!😉😉😉🤔🤔🤔🤔😊
Once again, the NRA is not just a “gun rights” organization. Unlike all the other groups mentioned, it was founded and continues to promote marksmanship and firearms ownership in all kinds of ways. Let’s hope it can get back to being the great organization it was for over a hundred years. Give them a chance.
you sound like an abused wife. lol.
I have too much skin in the NRA to give up. I will stay and work toward getting out with the bad old and in with the good new. The hardest part is identifying who is who. You have to pick the ones you trust and take it from there.
Good luck ! See ya !
I always hated their slimely solictation practices. They are worst than those TV televanglists.
All activist-type groups solicit for money all the time.
@@MalachiWhite-tw7hl NRA fund-raising was scandalous. Buy a vowel.
I was appalled at where the NRA was heading-- nothing was good coming from them, nothing. hope they can turn things around. Won't hold my breath.
WOOH , don't be throwing away any of those 5-thousand dollar suits 👎⚡
Not the place to send my fighting for the 2nd Ammendment dollars any longer. Change must occur. Deep change.
Even with its problems, the NRA has more dues-paid membership, influence, and money than all the other gun-rights organizations combined. When was the last time the anti-rights crowd expressed fear or hatred of GOA? The focus on the big dog in the gun-rights fight. They know that GOA only tackles the easy problems -- so GOA can proudly say they don't compromise. Only the NRA has ever been in the really hard battles. Example: The NRA was there for the 1994 "assault-weapon" ban battle. The NRA was able to get a ten-year sunset built into the bill. So, in 2004, that ban was gone. Where were GOA and the other gun-rights organizations for that fight? The NRA is coming back. We have 28 reform-minded candidates on the ballot this year. If YOU join as a voting-eligible member, YOU can help get them in. *itching from the outside does nothing.
Change to another organization.
Right now, I don't know if I will re-new my membership with NRA.
It takes a lifetime to recover from what they've done (not a comment on your age BTW - none of us are getting any younger).
As a Brit with approximately zero gun rights, I'd suggest fondly remembering their VERY distant past, and move forward with some of the incredible new organisations who've grabbed the wheel and are moving things in the right direction.
well said!!
Nope. Fight for your own rights and keep your money in your pocket. You might just appreciate your rights more if you do this anyway.
Trust is lost by the bucket and gained by the teaspoon.
I will keep hoping for a true turnaround in the NRA leadership.
The only use I ever found for the NRA was signing liberal co-workers up for 1 year memberships.
Funny, I got my last chance renewal notice from the NRA today
Do it! We need YOUR votes for the 28 reform candidates that will be on the ballot in your February issue of your NRA magazine.
They lost my support years ago. Ill stick with people like the FPC who actually do what we ask them to do and don't just act like idiots.
Second Amendment Foundation.....also in virginia , they begged for help from NrA for a hands on battle...nra DECLINED
1984 was a warning that not many of us listened too
That ship is sunk. They'll never be trusted again...
If the NRA could ditch the politicians, and politics, and return to it's core values- gun education, gun safety, and defense of America - it would re-energize the membership and create an attraction for new members.
Just remember who banned bump stocks and who said "Take the guns first, worry about due process later".
No. Notice they never day a word about severe consequences and penalties for constitutional infringement. Not a G*d d*mn thing
john and hickock (i dont delve into your personal stuff that might be availiable, and advise you to be careful) you are both great folks here and made youtube better. again. In the end. i hope you just know how special you two are and love eachother and that life is good. i miss my dad.
At one time, the NRA was a good organization, but like a lot of organizations, they took advantage of their members. I canceled my and my sons membership years ago and will probably never renew it again. Once trust is broken, it is very difficult to get it back.
I remember when the NRA was a great, well loved, necessary organization. Seems a long time ago! 🤦♂️
Yes like 40 years ago
Maybe right after the Civil War...🤑
There was in the 1950's when I was a member.
Back when members had taken foreign guns
off a war killed enemy in lieu of USA marketing.
I knew a guy that was a NRA member for a very long time, so they sent him a few things in the mail for being a member for a long time ,one thing was a pocket knife, and it was a pretty decent "looking" pocket knife, but under all that it said made in China, he called them and raised heck about that, told them he was sending the stuff back and to eliminate his memebership..I agree that's ridiculous..
Being guilty of not being too concerned, many...like myself needs someone smart enough to list specifics and then members can create a front to emphasize the grievances and petition for redress. Like a "club" that grows so big it's easier to let the power brokers broker the power. I think Hickok is trying to say this. We'd agree complaining alone goes nowhere.
Corruption in the NRA is like beans in bean soup.
I don't think anyone can undo the damage Wayne LaPierre created. They lost me years ago.
Fool me
Once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me
No❤
We need everyone to help, even if not as much as you want.
Hickok, you need to start your own NRA
The past 4 years the nra has not back the 2nd amendment rights for America they need to back the right to to own a firearm for all legal us people
Short answer --------------> NO!
Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
No, but I’m keeping that damn backpack.
Michael Bloomberg thanks you.
it's kind of ironic these people that are gun people constantly say how this country is a free country but always obey the laws
He will turn out. To be just as greedy and money grabbing as his predisesers
I joined the NRA in 1971 when I was a sophomore or junior in high school. I’ve been a life member for a long time, Patron level. They need a complete overhaul top to bottom. La Pierre was just a symptom of a greater problem.
That "greater problem" is fading fast. We have 28 great reform candidates on the ballot for board of directors this year. If YOU are a voting-eligible member, you can help complete the overhaul this year. *itching from the outside does nothing to help.
@@BlaineNay 4th time U posted this malarkey. I spent 30 years trying to change the NRA and they are worse than the Teamsters Union.
The NRA served the community well and then lost its way because of the leadership. I'm still waiting for a change in leadership and also a restoration of their dignity and direction. At this moment, no, I cannot support it. Other groups have stepped up and are doing the work very well.
Even with its rapidly-fading problems, the NRA has more due-paying members, influence, and money than all the "other groups" combined. We have 28 reform board candidates on the ballot this year. With YOUR help we can get them in and complete the restoration of NRA integrity and power. *itching from the outside helps nobody.
The NRA sold out the members on many gun laws. Pay attention.
There is not redemption for the NRA. GOA and FPC are the way to go.