Battle of Jankau 1645 - Thirty Years' War DOCUMENTARY

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
  • Our animated historical documentary series on the Thirty Years' War continues with the aftermath of the battle of Freiburg - the battle of Jankau of 1645. The Swedes under Torstensson are on the attack again and their rampage through the modern day Czechia, where he will meet the Imperial army under von Hatzfeld at the battle of Jankau.
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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +117

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    • @TyrannosaurusRex5027
      @TyrannosaurusRex5027 4 роки тому +6

      @Kings and Generals I’ll buy more SPQR hoodies, would that work?

    • @ghostd69
      @ghostd69 4 роки тому +1

      What's the song at 10:00

    • @knightshade1297
      @knightshade1297 4 роки тому

      When is the next episode coming out

    • @utkarshtrivedi1211
      @utkarshtrivedi1211 4 роки тому +1

      Please make a video on battle of Didgori.

    • @kitso_2b68
      @kitso_2b68 4 роки тому +1

      Great video! Didn't know the Swedish continued to kick butt into the later centuries!
      I had a question on the map: Why was Freiburg next to Dresden? Did these cities shift locations over time because of emigration?

  • @catriona_drummond
    @catriona_drummond 4 роки тому +571

    Poor Hatzfeld, desperately trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of utter annihilation but the incompetence of his underlings was just too great.

    • @painfuldreamer7547
      @painfuldreamer7547 4 роки тому +25

      Veteran and well disciplined soldier is worth 2 or 3 fresh recruit........

    • @painfuldreamer7547
      @painfuldreamer7547 4 роки тому

      @Plamen Stoev 100 percent agree with you

    • @romanbarna1316
      @romanbarna1316 4 роки тому +22

      I don't know, I'm wondering if people misunderstanding his instructions might've been caused by him giving unclear ones.

    • @triplem5770
      @triplem5770 2 роки тому +6

      @@romanbarna1316 16:31 that one had nothing to do with unclear orders. they just were idiots

    • @sidp5381
      @sidp5381 2 роки тому

      Hatzfeld loses his hat and he loses his head ha ha ha ha

  • @stygian8049
    @stygian8049 4 роки тому +1136

    "...or decided it's a good moment to show his disobedience."
    Yeah, this is what happens when you have -40 opinions with your vassals

    • @stygian8049
      @stygian8049 4 роки тому +35

      @monhbold naiman it's faction time boys

    • @killinspecialist1965
      @killinspecialist1965 4 роки тому +8

      @@stygian8049 good ole ck2 -40 aint that bad tho

    • @Brian82406
      @Brian82406 4 роки тому +8

      or high liberty desire?? loll

    • @crazzywasp
      @crazzywasp 4 роки тому +2

      love the comment, however an opinion is uncountable

    • @thebigdrew12
      @thebigdrew12 4 роки тому +8

      Huh. Turns out tyranny isn't just a number.

  • @sanher20
    @sanher20 4 роки тому +347

    Torstensson is a very underrated general, he was very fast even though he was crippled and sick and definitely made use of some of the Gustavian tactics.

    • @goosfraba2948
      @goosfraba2948 4 роки тому +58

      Although he was a bit.... touched too. A detachment commander under Torstensson that had carried out an unsuccessful assault was catapulted out of the army under humiliating forms, and he was forced to swear an oath to never tell anyone he had ever been in swedish service. On another occation he held a full court of law trial against the corpse of another sub-commander that had failed and died in a skirmish.
      Tactically brilliant, but also a bit of a looney :)

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 4 роки тому +16

      He really was something, brilliant tactician and strict disciplinary.

    • @sanher20
      @sanher20 4 роки тому +3

      @@goosfraba2948 Thanks for mentioning that.

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 4 роки тому +73

      German "Your General is crazy."
      Swede "yes."
      German "So why do you follow him?"
      Swede "He keeps winning."

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 роки тому +5

      Not sure were you found those tall tales about Torstensson but true they are not
      Not a shred of evidence exists that he was 'touched' I.e a bit insane.

  • @letoatreides5165
    @letoatreides5165 4 роки тому +447

    I really believe, that the breaking of little squares is the most satisfying sound ever😂
    I've been pavlov-trained by K&G

    • @Trias805
      @Trias805 4 роки тому +41

      I want that sound in Total War and Europa Universalis.

    • @PoggoMcDawggo
      @PoggoMcDawggo 4 роки тому +19

      @@eduardochiscuet3146 Come back and tell us when it's finished!

    • @letoatreides5165
      @letoatreides5165 4 роки тому +17

      @Eric Kim we know

    • @leonzoful
      @leonzoful 4 роки тому +9

      @@letoatreides5165 and that's why we like it

    • @Liquidsback
      @Liquidsback 4 роки тому +13

      And the only way to assassinate someone is a spinning dagger.

  • @adamjan55
    @adamjan55 4 роки тому +627

    Commanders in early 30 years war: "Modern war ought to be fought with well disciplined infantry. Cavalry based armies are relicts of the past"
    Commanders in later 30 years war: "I am speed"

    • @PoggoMcDawggo
      @PoggoMcDawggo 4 роки тому +50

      Gotta go fast!

    • @markuhler2664
      @markuhler2664 4 роки тому +33

      Had a CO (US Navy) who loved the phrase "Speed is Life."

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 роки тому +25

      Nope, every early commander in the war believed in combined arms tactics and invested heavily in raising expensive cavalry as cavalry was still very important due to its unique combination of mobility and shock. Used in the right moment even a few squadrons could wreck entire brigades.

    • @adamjan55
      @adamjan55 4 роки тому +16

      @@Vonstab Well, that was just a joke but of course you are right :)
      Although, I found interesting that proportions between numbers of cavalry and infantry changed so much.

    • @marrqi7wini54
      @marrqi7wini54 4 роки тому

      @Aleksa Petrovic
      Dragoons.

  • @ThelostPenguin0
    @ThelostPenguin0 4 роки тому +442

    feel really bad for Von Hatzefeldt, He did everything he could with his numbers and disobedient/incompetent commander's.

    • @MajorCoolD
      @MajorCoolD 4 роки тому +43

      Depends, maybe his Commands were unclear?
      I mean he could have come out of that battle bloodied but still standing if he would have been clear/overseen the re-taking off that Hill.
      Naturally the Bavarian Cavalry could have also been FAR more decisive if they wouldnt have plundered... but alas, that is the big issue with mercenary armies and undisciplined forces that arent used to fighting together on a large scale.
      Throughout history there have been many forces that were great on an individual or skirmishing level (with just several dozens to hundreds of people involved), but showed to be lacking in coordination on a large scale battle. (of several thousands.)

    • @gastonhitw720
      @gastonhitw720 4 роки тому +15

      @@superspies32 that has been done by many other commanders or troops, it was done by the crusaders against Saladin troops, but I don't remember the name of the battle

    • @soselo69
      @soselo69 4 роки тому +7

      I really dislike dumb commanders and this video was full of them. fuuuuuuu

    • @vislaton
      @vislaton 4 роки тому +4

      Looting was big mistake since age of time

    • @gastonhitw720
      @gastonhitw720 4 роки тому +1

      @heilige Einfalt that one yes, if conrad of montferrat was there I think is that battle

  • @benedictjajo
    @benedictjajo 4 роки тому +367

    "A good moment to show his disobedience"
    LMAO

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal 4 роки тому +8

      That is where a true commander shows his power. Gotz needs to be sacked and replaced on the spot.
      However when you have such a disorganized army you cannot leave it again and again ... you have to be present.

    • @jeffvella9765
      @jeffvella9765 4 роки тому +8

      @@andraslibal It ain't as simple as you think, when the men fighting are not really loyal to you but more loyal to the guy you want sacked. You run the risk of having half your army desert on the spot or worse, kill you right there.

    • @deepyamandas1192
      @deepyamandas1192 3 роки тому

      Some time later: gets killed by Swedes because of disobedience

  • @seantomlinson3320
    @seantomlinson3320 4 роки тому +83

    What a complicated terrific battle. Wow. No wonder I've never really understood what happened. Turns out discipline matters. Who would have thought?

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 4 роки тому +230

    "The wives of the swedish officers were captured here, including Torstenson wife".
    Swedes: "So, you choose death!".

    • @silafuyang8675
      @silafuyang8675 4 роки тому +5

      They did not have the time to properly rape them. Oops, officers wives were not raped at that time, the habit started in the 20th century.

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 4 роки тому +50

      Ahh the ethical standards of the sixteen hundreds. I remeber an old Danish army bulletin from that era, forbiding on pain of death, the rape of virgins, women in the late stages of pregnancy, women in birthing bed, the elderly, the infirm and livestock.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 4 роки тому +19

      @Ger Many Raping is SOP for islamics.

    • @JesusOfIskcon
      @JesusOfIskcon 4 роки тому

      I wish I was looking at it right now.

    • @kasinokaiser1319
      @kasinokaiser1319 4 роки тому

      @@silafuyang8675 They're not Wallenstein

  • @MDP1702
    @MDP1702 4 роки тому +67

    Just imagine a tv series set in the 30 years war. You'll have a large battle every 1-2 episodes. So much source material. I'd love it.

    • @MDP1702
      @MDP1702 3 роки тому +9

      @@Validboy You can insert women if you want rather easily. It doesn't need to be completely historically accurate (otherwise it is a documentary). Plenty of ways to insert women, at the court of France or Vienna, a love interest during the campaign, maybe some intrigues at home while the husband is away campaigning, ...

  • @PostmanCZ
    @PostmanCZ 4 роки тому +65

    Jankau was probably the most important battle of this war phase. Sice then the Emperor knew the
    hope of victory is lost and he has begun negotiate for peace.

  • @WolfgangRavenna
    @WolfgangRavenna 4 роки тому +256

    Gotta say: Every other K&G episode is like
    "The broke the lines, Decisively gaining the upper hand!..." YAH! Alright! They may win this
    "...And then they began looting the baggage train" GOD DAMN IT.

    • @AegonTheUnlikely
      @AegonTheUnlikely 4 роки тому +36

      T.S. Millar always the fatal flaw of looting the baggage train 😂

    • @heronofalexandria91
      @heronofalexandria91 4 роки тому +16

      Saved Antigonus’s Campaign.

    • @captaindusty4884
      @captaindusty4884 4 роки тому +10

      Genghis Khan approves this tactic

    • @andraslibal
      @andraslibal 4 роки тому +13

      WTF is with looting destroying cohesion and battle plans all the time ...
      first win the battle. Then loot. How hard is that to understand.

    • @Teknokraatti
      @Teknokraatti 4 роки тому +38

      @@andraslibal It's actually not hard to understand the looting. After the battle is won, the commanding officers will take control of the enemy baggage train and divide it as they see fit. A common soldier didn't exactly get a whole lot (Which is not necessarily because of the greed of their superiors; There's many to share with in an army), but if they get the chance to personally take what they want, there's an excellent chance that they will be able to keep at least some of the good stuff, such as valuables, good food or better equipment.
      A soldier that is on the winning side and survives doesn't necessarily benefit. A soldier that is able to loot and survive, regardless of winning or losing, stands to become significantly wealthier in an instant.
      You have to remember that most soldiers of almost any kind were not rich. If they were ever going to make bank, it was with loot.

  • @antoinemonks4187
    @antoinemonks4187 4 роки тому +144

    15:50 "It's over, we have the high ground!"
    "You underestimate our power."

    • @antoinemonks4187
      @antoinemonks4187 4 роки тому +9

      @@superspies32 they definitely underestimated the power of the Swedish side.

    • @brendanchoi8889
      @brendanchoi8889 4 роки тому +1

      "you underestimate the shininess of are baggage train!"

  • @xusteve4820
    @xusteve4820 4 роки тому +42

    Looting the enemy camp seems lke the second most common sign that one side is about to lose the battle. (1st as killng envoys)

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 4 роки тому +1

      Especially the cases where the guys looting the camp just up and leaves the army afterwards.
      The worst cases must be when one group plunders their allies camp and then just runs away.
      Also a good indicator is when the baggage train of an army seems more like circus caravan or a giant royal ball on wheels.

    • @karlzbatiao177
      @karlzbatiao177 4 роки тому +1

      or chasing retreating cavalry.

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher
    @eldorados_lost_searcher 4 роки тому +11

    That was one hell of a nail biter. The battle ranged all across the countryside, to the point where it's amazing how the forces managed to stick together.
    And once again, one of the decisive moments is when the cavalry stopped to loot the baggage train.

  • @Jauhl1
    @Jauhl1 4 роки тому +15

    I have always wondered why Jankau is hardly ever mentioned. It any battle can be said to decided the long 30-years war it's Jankau, not only was yet another Imperial army annihilated, The loss of the experienced Bavarian Cavalry made further Bavarian resistance against France hopeless. After Jankau the war continued to settle how much Habsburg would have to offer for a peace, to turn the tide was now beyond Imperial resources.
    Btw Lennart Torstensson was a very interesting man, He was military prodigy and favorite of Gustavus. Colonel at 26, General and commander of the artillery at 29, playing key roles in the kings victories. 1632 he was captured and spent a year in a dank dungeon in Ingolstadt. This afflicted him with gout and utterly ruined his health, he still continued to serve in the army as well as he could. His actions at Wittstock and Chemniz was critical to Johan Banér the new Swedish commander in chief victories but in 1640 Torstensson retired from the army due to his illness and joined the Council of the Realm. Not a year later Banér died. The Council appointed Torstensson as his replacement, despite Torstensson's own objections. He had the misfortune of having the army's absolute confidence, while also being part of the Swedish high aristocracy and thus unlike foreign generals in Swedish service unquestionable loyal. Despite frequently having to be carried on a stretcher because the pain was so severe that he couldn't ride, he quickly made his mark on the war. He was a master of maneuver warfare and destroyed two Imperial armies simply by boxing them into desolated land decimating them through starvation and disease. In 1642 he crushed the Imperials at the second battle of Breitenfeld, In 1644 he was ordered to conquer Denmark so he did, and a year later he wrecked the Imperials at Jankau. Year after year he asked to be relieved which didn't happen until 1646, He died 1651. 48 years old.

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 роки тому +3

      Too bad no one told the Bavarian cavalry that resistance was hopeless since they were beating up the French at Allerheim in August 1645 despite being destroyed ;)

  • @ΓιαννηςΜπουγιος
    @ΓιαννηςΜπουγιος 4 роки тому +2

    Man those videos were mad interesting before quarantine. Now they are pure gold

  • @anzaca1
    @anzaca1 4 роки тому +73

    7:00 Hill 554 sounds like a battle location from WWII, like Hill 113 (in Normandy).

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +48

      Yeah, I also was surprised

    • @shnarf9797
      @shnarf9797 4 роки тому +2

      Lest we Forget

    • @khornedmaple
      @khornedmaple 4 роки тому +3

      Tells you what kind of war the 30yrs War was, doesn't it.
      (Btw. there were also a lot of those key hills in WWI, like Hill 60)

    • @mjwoodroff8446
      @mjwoodroff8446 4 роки тому +3

      Does it denote the height? Although that sounds pretty tall to be lugging artillery up. Of course metric units weren't a thing at that point so it could be through a different measurement. Imperial? Not sure what many European countries might have used prior to the metric system.

    • @SC0RCH3er
      @SC0RCH3er 4 роки тому +5

      @@mjwoodroff8446 It most likely is height - if you look on the map of the area, it is 540-570 meters above sea level on the hilltops, while the low area is around 500, so those are hills, but no Alps, not sure about the exact measurement, because it seems modern maps do not have the same numbers, so it is possible some older historical source used military map to describe the area with current measurements and since that the names of the hills stayed that way despite beeing few meters off the actual height.
      Its not like we don´t have a a name every other hill thats barely noticeable, it is just that a lot of those names is unoficial or not important for military maps.

  • @chevysuarez7306
    @chevysuarez7306 4 роки тому +136

    Remember guys even though were stuck in doors atleast were not killing each other *FOR 30 YEARS*

    • @HeyImLucious
      @HeyImLucious 4 роки тому +11

      War would be more exciting than this tbh

    • @divinemoments5344
      @divinemoments5344 4 роки тому

      Not yet.

    • @ertvonzukonigvonrahm835
      @ertvonzukonigvonrahm835 4 роки тому +13

      @@HeyImLucious Right
      Sitting in a bed and not knowing when you can work again or sitting in a bunker not knowing if the war will destroy humanity or just all of your loved ones

    • @jmc9137
      @jmc9137 4 роки тому +2

      @@ertvonzukonigvonrahm835 l think he ment renaissance or medieval war not modern

    • @db4ch
      @db4ch 4 роки тому +12

      Wait till you learn about the 100 years war

  • @aidabagirova4933
    @aidabagirova4933 4 роки тому +18

    Finally, I really like this period of European history. Thanks, KnG!!!

  • @tg1982
    @tg1982 4 роки тому +2

    Oh God, I'd guess reading about this battle, I mean reading reports from people on the field and translating to a map would be a nightmare. Thanks guys for the work! This has been an extraordinary chapter, the movements, the logic behind it, awesome.

  • @MordimersChessChannel
    @MordimersChessChannel 4 роки тому +8

    Ha! That was tricky! I managed to finish my video before you uploaded yours! Now I can enjoy the battle and slowly set up the description. Perfect timing :D

  • @sudarshaniyer2747
    @sudarshaniyer2747 4 роки тому +10

    I don't understand why Torstensson does not get more publicity. Much of the modern artillery tactics developed by the Swedes under Gustavus Adolphus was due to Torstensson himself, who was a key figure in all of the king's early campaigns. Combined with his amazing personal military successes, I think Torstensson has a case to be remembered as the greatest military commander/soldier of the 30 years war.

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 3 роки тому +2

      The same reson Subutai do not get credit, both where totaly loyal to there King and did fight in his kings name.

    • @Jauhl1
      @Jauhl1 Рік тому +3

      He is also quite fascinating because since he became commander in chief only out of necessity. He was invalided from gout as a prisoner of war. His stellar military reputation and being part of the council aristocracy made him the only option for the Swedish government. Sometimes Torstensson's gout pain was so severe he couldn't ride so his soldiers had carry him on a stretcher. Year after year he wrote letters begging to be replaced while he delivered one victory after another until he was replaced 1645. He died 6 years later a mere 47 years old.

    • @Khookies-lp2lu
      @Khookies-lp2lu 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Jauhl1 if anything that speaks of his character. He doesn't want to be there, shouldn't be there either, but he keeps delivering his best for his nation. And "his best" just so happens to be a string of victories for the Swedish cause

  • @komm6668
    @komm6668 4 роки тому +130

    I can only imagine the 1,000 yard stare someone who fought in this entire war from start to finish would have.

    • @jameskowanko7574
      @jameskowanko7574 4 роки тому +22

      no one would have that, the war was really three wars. One with the Bohemians, One with the Platatanate, and this one with the French and Swedish. And soldiers get taken out of war quickly

    • @kastraskammer5710
      @kastraskammer5710 4 роки тому +43

      James Kowanko there are examples of soldiers that fought in all of them, mercenaries go where the war is

    • @MajorCoolD
      @MajorCoolD 4 роки тому +47

      @@jameskowanko7574 There is in fact someone, 'Peter Hagendorf' a mercenary who fought in the War, apparently for it's entire duration, or at least the vast majority of it and lived to tell and write down the tale.

    • @theempiredidnothingwrong3227
      @theempiredidnothingwrong3227 4 роки тому

      @mr_ anheuser By chance do you know where a copy would be available I tried looking on Amazon just now and couldn't find it.

    • @pekkamakela2566
      @pekkamakela2566 4 роки тому +4

      There were a handfull Finnish cavalry men who fought against Poles in 1605 and still went to war against danes in 1655, 50 years later.

  • @grimkupid8478
    @grimkupid8478 4 роки тому +2

    In a short time, this channel quickly became one of my most favorite channels on youtube, thanks for this wonderful content

  • @SpacePatrollerLaser
    @SpacePatrollerLaser 4 роки тому +74

    With all this back and forth, I remembered why I hated studying the Thirty Years War

    • @Dragons_Armory
      @Dragons_Armory 4 роки тому +20

      I remembered why I freaking love it. Each battle is literally a soap opera

    • @SpacePatrollerLaser
      @SpacePatrollerLaser 4 роки тому +9

      @@Dragons_Armory You got that right. But when you're going to be graded on your knowledge of the goings on, you do not want to get involved with AS THE HABSBUGHS BURN" or maybe it's just a case of Stockholm syndromm

  • @johnnydavis5896
    @johnnydavis5896 4 роки тому +9

    One huge difference is that Gustav had the ability to rally the Germans behind him even Catholics who was willing to tolerate. The Lion of the North was the only figure capable of uniting the Germans in this era.

  • @zedorio18
    @zedorio18 4 роки тому +4

    How have i as a Swede not heard of this battle? Bloody glorious!

  • @MichaelSmith-ij2ut
    @MichaelSmith-ij2ut 4 роки тому +13

    11:18 I don't know why but the forced conversion of the Imperial artillery was so damn satisfying.

  • @valentinmaican5744
    @valentinmaican5744 4 роки тому +7

    Saved my Sunday, thank you

  • @wrenchguy2937
    @wrenchguy2937 4 роки тому +23

    I appreciate these!! Not going to lie...Since this outbreak virus happened, ur channel has kept me going from home haha.

  • @Destroyer83
    @Destroyer83 4 роки тому +9

    "But not everything was so simple." It's the 30 years war, NOTHING is simple.

  • @carltonbauheimer
    @carltonbauheimer 4 роки тому +49

    Last time I was this early, Frederick was still Elector of the Palatinate.

    • @dominicguye8058
      @dominicguye8058 4 роки тому +1

      The Father of Prince Rupert of the Rhine. The Protestant Frederick. The former "Winter King" of Bohemia. Of the House of Wittelsbach.

    • @joellaz9836
      @joellaz9836 4 роки тому +2

      David Chicoine
      The British monarchy is descendant from the Frederick, elector of the Palatinate. His daughter’s son was George I and he was made king of Britain.

  • @micheleori1644
    @micheleori1644 4 роки тому +2

    thanks as always for the content you bring. They are done very well and thoroughly. I wanted to advise you to add to the series of videos something about the battles of medieval and Renaissance Italy for example: legnano, cortenuova, parma, fornovo, agnadello etc ... however excellent as always.

  • @DarioHawkeye
    @DarioHawkeye 4 роки тому +3

    Even in video games like Darkfall that I have played years ago, some battles were lost there because people were looting the dead while others were still pushing the "deafeated" enemy, only for that enemy to reorganize, kill the obedient ones that kept chasing, and then come after the looters also :)

    • @Teknokraatti
      @Teknokraatti 4 роки тому +2

      The interesting thing is that the motive for looting is the same as well, getting to pick your choice before anybody else can lay claim or demand fair distribution. Quite the interesting analogy to real life that I'm quite sure the game devs didn't necessarily try to create.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 роки тому +76

    The High Ground didn’t save the Imperials...

    • @octodaddy4494
      @octodaddy4494 4 роки тому +5

      Not against artillery and professional soldiers, you should know that Napoléon ;)

    • @SMOOTH_YTghb
      @SMOOTH_YTghb 4 роки тому +2

      Vive le empereur!.

    • @dand7763
      @dand7763 4 роки тому +1

      Austerlitz sweet memories...

    • @mahanandin
      @mahanandin 4 роки тому +1

      @Trz Probably on his way to Paris after he got his ass handed to him at the "EPIC" Battle of Nations .

    • @eldorados_lost_searcher
      @eldorados_lost_searcher 4 роки тому +2

      @Trz
      *Execution of possible heirs to the French throne, suppression of the press, the Continental System*
      Well, he's all right...

  • @kellyfrankie0331
    @kellyfrankie0331 4 роки тому +1

    Love this series!! I hope you keep making videos of the 30 years war 💪🏼

  • @gamerwar2113
    @gamerwar2113 4 роки тому +210

    Czechs:okay guys we have named many hills we ran out of names for that one
    Some random kid:hill 554
    Czechs are basically slav germans smh

    • @saiien2
      @saiien2 4 роки тому +14

      Although this battle was in today's Czech republic and not in Germany ;)

    • @더러운전쟁
      @더러운전쟁 4 роки тому +4

      ​@@appleslover Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren, Oberlandratsbezirk Beneschau, Jankau

    • @andresmartinezramos7513
      @andresmartinezramos7513 4 роки тому +24

      @Garrim Gyr "1st Deutschen Reich called Holy Roman Empire - the only and true heir of the pagan Roman Empire."
      That's just ridiculous

    • @ruthswann88
      @ruthswann88 4 роки тому +5

      @Plamen Stoev Yeah, I believe the ERE inherited more of Rome's administrative and military traditions. I wouldn't say the Greeks were Romanized, more like the other way around, though. Some Roman historian (Livy?) said something about how Rome conquered Greece, but Greeks conquered Romans or something.
      Religiously though, I think the ERE had more in common with the Roman Empire than the HRE. Orthodoxy in the ERE had less authority than the Emperor, as Christianity did in the Roman Empire, while the HR Emperor was often subordinate to the Pope, and when he wasn't, well one of them had to go beg the Pope for forgiveness (Lay Investiture). Not to mention that the name of the HRE was created to spite the ERE and because at the time the ERE was ruled by an Empress, so the Pope decided that the Roman emperorship was "unoccupied" and crowned Charlemagne Roman Emperor.
      You could argue, though, that the Catholic church is the successor of the WRE.

    • @saiien2
      @saiien2 4 роки тому +2

      @@appleslover Yes this is a shorter version of Czech republic.

  • @Asyr
    @Asyr 4 роки тому

    i rarely shook my head for a whole video. this is one of them.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 4 роки тому +75

    France : '' Soo... at least we're safe from any disease, right ? ''
    Plague : '' ...'bout that(!)'

    • @jack.charlesc4750
      @jack.charlesc4750 4 роки тому +1

      You re joking on this kind of subject !!!!
      What kind of human being are you ?
      Would you sacrifice your elderly for dollars ??
      I thought you were talking making a parallel to coved 19

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 4 роки тому +7

      @@jack.charlesc4750 *b'ruh!*

  • @tankopearl
    @tankopearl 4 роки тому +43

    Me : Cannons are turning blue......
    K&Gs: Bad news for the Imperial army.

  • @andeace23
    @andeace23 4 роки тому +2

    This is def filling a gap in my history knowledge. Bravo

  • @Limubi1
    @Limubi1 4 роки тому +2

    Love this series, looking forward to the next video!!

  • @sweep1777
    @sweep1777 4 роки тому +3

    Having watching all episodes so far (liked & subscribed) this period of warfare seems extremely dangerous for senior commanders... no sitting 5 miles behind the lines in a luxurious chateau sipping cognac.
    Any chance of doing more videos featuring the excellent Turenne.

  • @Limubi1
    @Limubi1 4 роки тому +8

    I've watched this whole series just today and my professional historical period is that this war is a clusterfuck.

  • @Borep_Yano
    @Borep_Yano 4 роки тому +52

    Can we agree that up is north? Or if motion sickness is still the goal here, then at least include a compass?

    • @seantomlinson3320
      @seantomlinson3320 4 роки тому +5

      Yang M I agree. Doesn't help that sometimes the animation and narration are utterly backwards.

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 роки тому +6

      The map and animation could be a lot better but Jankow was a messy and unusally mobile battle. They have simplified it in several places to make it more managabel

    • @michaelt.5672
      @michaelt.5672 4 роки тому +4

      A compass rose on the map would be REALLY helpful.

    • @cray1727
      @cray1727 4 роки тому

      There was a compass.

    • @michaelt.5672
      @michaelt.5672 4 роки тому +2

      @@cray1727 Only visible in the very beginning, rather than remaining in frame so that you still have a reference.

  • @Arselpang
    @Arselpang 3 роки тому +4

    Lennart Torstensson hasn't gotten the military appraice as he should. He was basically a northern Caesar.

  • @marksoren340
    @marksoren340 4 роки тому +5

    Torstensson was an excellent commander! Not only did he conquere much territory for the empire. He also trained Gustavus adolphus nephew, (the future warrior king of Sweden Charles X) in the art of war.

    • @jansundvall2082
      @jansundvall2082 4 роки тому +5

      My opinion is that Torstensson is the greatest Swedish commander in our history. NB he understood the importance of field artillery, logistics and due to his illness indirect leadership. He did also mastered the artillery reforms after the Polish war just before the entry in the 39 years war and was for a period Governor General over Western Sweden.

  • @Daruliable
    @Daruliable 4 роки тому +1

    Good video K&G's, and the war continues, great series

  • @RodolfoGaming
    @RodolfoGaming 4 роки тому

    How funny is it that i finished reviewing the 30 years war yesterday?!! :-D What a coincidence cheers for this upload quality as always just extra surprising!

  • @alansalas1880
    @alansalas1880 4 роки тому +2

    When they got near the baggage train, i totally knew they will start looting and be killed by a counter attack, i guess i learned something after all those videos.
    Nice job as always.

  • @chezkelhui1010
    @chezkelhui1010 4 роки тому +5

    Hatzfeldt's order to attack the right flank of the Swedish army was a very smart tactical move. If it was successful, the Bavarians could have captured the whole artillery division on hill 537 and used it to shoot back at the Swedes. After that they could even attack Tortensson from the back. It was always some incompetent subordinate that was more interested in looting than killing.

  • @SorenHall
    @SorenHall 4 роки тому +1

    Never actually read this anywhere but I have to imagine that one of the reasons for the high cavalry ratios late in the war was the sheer number of garrisons requiring men. Hard to have a lot of infantry when they're all being left in cities and forts. Easier to do that at the beginning when there hadn't been a generation of war.

  • @wiictvchannel1112
    @wiictvchannel1112 4 роки тому

    Yess! Always happy to see 30 Years War content.

  • @KHK001
    @KHK001 4 роки тому +1

    Glad to see more 30 years war videos!

  • @gentlesirpancakebottoms6692
    @gentlesirpancakebottoms6692 4 роки тому +1

    I believe to this day that the 30 years war was a missed opportunity for Assassins Creed when it was still Assassins Creed. We need more Video games, movies and series about the topic. Such interesting and epic historical dramas we could have had.

  • @pierrerust2423
    @pierrerust2423 4 роки тому

    Brilliant presentation as usual and very informative as well !

  • @Armorius2199
    @Armorius2199 4 роки тому +2

    Excellent video!!!!!

  • @darthwalrus4740
    @darthwalrus4740 4 роки тому

    Love this series, such an interesting time period! Great video once again. :D

  • @xarisdrag1890
    @xarisdrag1890 4 роки тому

    Great job, your work is admirable! I think only the time you need to find all these maps, strategies and finally synchornize all these togetehr to an amazing peace of art!!!

  • @kelldub78
    @kelldub78 4 роки тому +42

    Couldn't attack because WINTER IS COMING, you say?
    Sounds familiar...

  • @alexfonvereshchak
    @alexfonvereshchak 4 роки тому +1

    I love you, guys)))) Thank you for your job!!!

  • @ct-5486metal
    @ct-5486metal 4 роки тому

    This is one of your best series.

  • @nekhlioudovbolkonsky2901
    @nekhlioudovbolkonsky2901 4 роки тому +3

    Hi! I'm a fan of your videos, and I absolutly love your t-shirt! But even if I love them, I'd love to see t-shirt of other peoples like Condé, Richelieu, Gustav Adolph, or Aetius. It would be awesome!
    Love from France guys

  • @Aeyekay0
    @Aeyekay0 4 роки тому

    Awesome video. Keep up the good work

  • @thomaswilder4159
    @thomaswilder4159 4 роки тому

    thx for this, love your works!

  • @stefos6431
    @stefos6431 2 роки тому

    Wonderful job Kings and Generals.......An overlooked time period in European history

  • @damiangeorgiev7072
    @damiangeorgiev7072 4 роки тому

    Great series! I really enjoy it!

  • @clas683
    @clas683 3 роки тому

    The fact that the term ’campain season’ was used like football season is today is just insane.

  • @anttrails9554
    @anttrails9554 4 роки тому +1

    Love your channel

  • @Fred3n87
    @Fred3n87 4 роки тому +3

    A great video! You keep a very high standard doing the Thirty Years War justice, thumbs up! :D
    And here is an unnecessary fact bonus, in Sweden we call it The Battle of Jankov ^^

  • @davoudrezaeian3877
    @davoudrezaeian3877 4 роки тому

    this is your best series

  • @Raadpensionaris
    @Raadpensionaris 4 роки тому

    Best series on the channel

  • @ariyoiansky291
    @ariyoiansky291 4 роки тому

    intense.... awesome work, guys

  • @nathanslijkhuis7159
    @nathanslijkhuis7159 4 роки тому +2

    Don't forget the Habsburg 's signed the Peace of Westphalia when the dutch cut the trade rout of for the biggest part of the empire at the end of the war, they destroyed the Spanish fleed for the first time. That's also the start of one of the biggest admirals ever lived Michiel de Ruyter where Horatio Nelson learned the most of.

  • @bader3677
    @bader3677 4 роки тому

    Wow this battle was amazing!

  • @sennaka
    @sennaka 4 роки тому +1

    I've never really read up on the 30 Years War - thank you for this series!
    *peers* How could the ranking officers get commands interpreted incorrectly, not once, but TWICE? I mean, the scouting party was one thing and that guy paid for it, but come on, couldn't they have checked to see how many were on that hill before committing near the entire force???
    And then they couldn't even make the guns they captured useful. Ten guns! I mean, what the hell.

  • @secrectpirate3096
    @secrectpirate3096 4 роки тому +3

    When you are out names ,
    People : how about we just name it hill 537?
    Other person : it's a cool name

  • @1926PlovdivCity
    @1926PlovdivCity 4 роки тому

    Man i Just love the 30 y. war videos so great

  • @Jakub-tc6mh
    @Jakub-tc6mh 4 роки тому +1

    I guess the siege of Brno (Brünn) is the next? :D
    Anyway, a really good video.
    Greetings from Czech Republic!

  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 4 роки тому +2

    9:12 As a supervisor in the civilian world, I totally understand what that was like. "Where the Hell is he? I told him to stay put!" And then the worker that didn't stay put argues with you. Grrrrr......

  • @lilblondeboy4142
    @lilblondeboy4142 4 роки тому +1

    I love your videos continue your great work could you do more roman videos

  • @Tompa83
    @Tompa83 4 роки тому

    Best channel on UA-cam

  • @jurgen4466
    @jurgen4466 4 роки тому +1

    Great battle!

  • @deluca1031
    @deluca1031 4 роки тому +26

    The Fall of the Holy Roman Empire is starting to reveal its crack

  • @braddonovan1786
    @braddonovan1786 4 роки тому

    This series is great

  • @kpsddhami
    @kpsddhami 4 роки тому +1

    Thnx for such amazing stuff in these times of lockdowns n quarantine, respect frm India

  • @Padtedesco
    @Padtedesco 4 роки тому +27

    I still expect for the most important moment in the 30 years war.
    The Peace of Westphalia.
    No General, no King, no Prophet, No Pope, no Leader or Emperor would be more powerfull than man-made letters in a paper.
    Very fitting for an Enlighted world, since the peace granted made professionals and specialists to be authorities, and ushered a world where kids of that time, like a 6 years old Isaac Newton, would change all of our understandings about the world.

    • @Padtedesco
      @Padtedesco 4 роки тому +2

      @@TheLocalLt Westphalia ended a war (two actually), but it laided an important ground.
      The idea that law matters, an abiding to is for everyone. Sovereignty of another nations was beyond your wishes, and while we see kings and emperors defying it once and a while, just the stand make a mark
      Without that, the ideia of science would never take off. Some numbers and rules could not defy Pope or emperor.

    • @Padtedesco
      @Padtedesco 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheLocalLt Yes The reformation was a major step to it, but ultimately the reformation was still under the Bible. You can say that the word of god was still important on that matter.
      Westphalia tough, was signed despite the hate of the Emperor and the Pope. It was based both outside the Religious and Royal authority. It was made by diplomats, bureaucrats, merchant guilds and what can be called the civil service of states.
      The act of drawing lines, in a kind of secular way, with the backing of common man, when something like that happened before? Magna Carta? Religious authority was crucial. Anglicanism? Royal authority did that. Reformation? Still a religious dispute.

    • @Padtedesco
      @Padtedesco 4 роки тому

      @@TheLocalLt I agree with you.

    • @flynn659
      @flynn659 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheLocalLt There's a book called "World Order" by Henry Kissinger who goes over the later importance of the treaty of Westphalia has in the later centuries, including now.

  • @SamuelHallEngland
    @SamuelHallEngland 4 роки тому +3

    How many times in history did an un-orderly looting of the enemy camp result in disaster? Caesar would never have let that happen!

    • @krawr2187
      @krawr2187 4 роки тому +3

      He most likely had moments like that. They either didn’t have the same disastrous result, or are omitted. That or the ridiculous wealth he seized during campaigns assuaged the desire to loot. Who knows? Later battles are recorded in much greater detail, and most of Caesars battles where written by well, Caesar.

  • @ross9570
    @ross9570 4 роки тому

    Amazing series!!

  • @markuhler2664
    @markuhler2664 4 роки тому +4

    Hatzfeld knew how to maneuver his forces & needed more commanders like Suetz (no idea how to actually spell his name, at 11:00). I do wonder if Hatzfeld' orders were misinterpreted because of him or his commanders.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +1

      Suys. Yeah, Imperial commanders were incredibly catty.

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 роки тому +2

      Hatzfeld was a competent commander but had probably been promoted beyond his abilities. He went from colonel to field marshal in just 3 years and had no time to gain experience as "middle management" before having to command an entire army at Wittstock. He did not do well but improved a lot between them and Jankow. His big problems at Jankow was Götz and the fact that Torstensson was simply a superior commander with a better command team.

    • @markuhler2664
      @markuhler2664 4 роки тому

      @@Vonstab Thanks. Hardly a strong point in my knowledge, appreciate the further info.

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  4 роки тому +5

      @@Vonstab sources criticize his tendency to go away from the army to conduct little missions, but overall claim that he was competent

    • @Vonstab
      @Vonstab 4 роки тому +6

      @@KingsandGenerals Spot on, he too easily slipped back into being a regimental commander who managed only a few units. Probably why he did better in small battles such as Vlotho when he only had to manage 6000 men.

  • @Loyal94
    @Loyal94 4 роки тому +1

    Idk why, but I find it hard to follow these 30 years' war docu's.. Maybe because of the wine I consume while watching K&G.
    The battle was clear as day tho. Keep up the great work!

  • @dams6829
    @dams6829 4 роки тому +16

    This whole war is one big ping pong match.

    • @michaelt.5672
      @michaelt.5672 4 роки тому +5

      And every time the ball touches the table or rackets, thousands of people die.

    • @dams6829
      @dams6829 4 роки тому +1

      @@michaelt.5672 exactly

  • @ddbrown22
    @ddbrown22 4 роки тому

    excellent work

  • @mohammadsaida4603
    @mohammadsaida4603 4 роки тому

    Too nice nice video thanks

  • @timloboda6716
    @timloboda6716 4 роки тому

    If you don't mind me asking, what app are you using for your animations? They are really good!

  • @dannyjames9986
    @dannyjames9986 4 роки тому

    Man, I took a nap today because wtf else am I gonna do and now I can't sleep. This is gonna turn into a problem.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 4 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @hammadikhlaq7570
    @hammadikhlaq7570 4 роки тому

    Waiting restlessly for your next video on Ottoman Empire. Please upload it soon.