Oh, you missed the best part about the Snowgrave route. The game implies that Kris is just as manipulated as Noelle is and you, the player, are the one manipulating them
ya that kind of the point of deltarune when you think about it instead of being a game about how the creatures in the world react to the player it how the player character reacts to the player and seeing if there really ok with what there doing because it impossible to tell if kris is enjoying what the players doing or not because they rip the player out multiple times but they make a new nightmare fountain to have more adventure so ya compare to frisk there a painting with all the color instead of a blank one
I also feel like there is another disturbing element of deltarune chapter two is the secret boss spamton. Spamton is a clearly unhinged and seems broken and desperate in his first fight he seems funny, but you can see the cracks form on how corrupted spamton is but this amps up in the spamton neo fight and his shop where he seems outright terrifying and creepy due to it being implied he doesn't have full control over his actions also not to mention he is the main antagonist of the snowgrave route as he gave you the thorn ring and intercepts Kris when they try to seal the fountain, then you realise why spamton is doing this not for a lust for power, or chaos but rather he is desperate and wants to be free by any means necessary as he has nothing to lose as his friends abandoned him because of a petty reason, which helped me empathise with spamton. This attitude is to the extent where even Kris themselves is terrified by spamton as implied in both his fights where Kris steps back from spamton in his first fight after he has a breakdown and forces out a no when you are given the option as Kris sees themselves in spamton trapped by a being beyond their control. this importance combined with how unimportant he is due to how little he is seen in deltarune chapter 2 compared to other characters which makes him such a compelling yet disturbing character, and why he is my favourite character in deltarune chapter 2.
@@valentinobisaccia1258 well similar thing happened to Jevil but the game didn't through the details like how it did with Spamton . I like them both and how the same person messed up with both of them . And i feel like when Spamton said to Kris that maybe they will be free from their strings he ment us who controling kris and we see how Kris don't like it . Damn man we just in 2 chs from 7 and crazy thing already happens . I wonder who is the new secret boss and is they will be iconic like Spamton ?
@@ajdndbdjbdj well at the very least spamton feels like a step up from jevil, he's not a bad character by any means I still enjoy his character, it's just spamton does his job better and is more disturbing because Toby went all out with the character which makes him more memorable and an interesting note is that spamton almost foils jevil which makes him more interesting, with jevil he seems completely in control and contempt with his newfound "freedom" despite his nihilistic view on the world being a game, but despite that being bored and wanting to mingle with others in a game. With spamton he seems to actively resent his predicament and is not control of his actions despite his efforts and is desperate to gain any sort of freedom or even a friend, since everyone abandoned him, even if it means potentially destroying the world by absorbing the dark fountain and killing darkners indirectly thanks to Noelle and Kris. Like I said he has more depth than jevil which makes him more interesting and more disturbing.
Omori absolutely broke me, but honestly the dark shit in it is why I love it so much. No game has ever meant me feel as sad, uncomfortable and terrified as Omori has, and while I loved the rest of the game, the final few hours honestly pushed it to be my favorite of all time
No, Doki Doki Literature Club deserves its spot on this list. It was quite a long while before it went so viral that people knew what they were getting into. Even six months after release, there were still streamers on Twitch (and not small ones either) who had no idea what they were getting into because they didn't follow that genre. All they knew is it had horror elements and that was if they'd bothered to read the warning at all. The game takes so long to flip the switch and advertises itself as so cute that to this day - parents ask if it's a game their kids can play. On top of that, it is the little things that are more disturbing because once you've started to see the horror.. you realize all along, the game was dropping hints in the first act and you missed them. Many people miss the "traceback.txt" in the background when things go wrong too. It's a very clever game that deserves all the praise it got.
AGREE! and honestly this game even makes me question games like FNAF because it only really depends on jumpscares to be classified as "horror". Like at first it's pretty nerve-racking, but that's the only part it really gets you to be scared. But DDLC over here with the 4th wall breaks, disturbing imagery, and pretty touchy subjects.
i play day one before it was cool, totally blind. I want to try the game because characters are so cute and i like weeb shit. I read some warnings i thought it might be some sad story will happen on the game but thats ok. But then i was wrong and get fucked. The game are beyond that. it even messes with the game files, my mind are blown by this crazy 4th wall shit but It also makes me so scared that i played the game on windowed mode lmao. In the end im glad i played it blindly without knowing anything about it and i enjoyed the game shock value to the max.
Ddlc was amazing! They managed to do everything right to create something that seemed so cute and innocent only for you to later discover how dark it is. From 4th wall breaks to subtle foreshadowing of events that would happen later, the way it was written was perfect.
I always say that Ultra Despair Girls is the creepiest out of the franchise. Sure the main games and DR3 anime had shocking moments, but UDG felt very unsettling because of the kids' involvement.
Udg felt like peak danganronpa to me. Dr2 missed some of its crazy psychopop style but udg delivered twofold. I loved it. Also BECAUSE the kids involvement. I loved it as DR game, thats supposed to make you feel like witnessing a roadkill, painful to look at but unable to avert your eyes. By just skimming over topics so dark and real, by having them in but not playing main role in story, it reminds us how little attention we give to issues that are present in our world and very much real. UDG wanted to make you scarred, feel this disturbing stuff branded in your brain, making you flinch when you think about it - not just when the game shows it, losing relevance when the credits roll. Thats whats danganronpa to me.
22:25 You just had to mention Humphrey didn't you.... What if I told you Humphrey was terrifying for a reason. He was trying to keep you from that last hour of the game, but you powered on anyway and you have no one but yourself for the trauma it gave you. (Massive explanation/spoilers below) It's explained that Headspace is a looping "cycle of blissful ignorance" designed to keep Sunny from reaching the Truth. And in Humphrey's boss fight he even references this saying "I'm afraid this cycle will never end", and that, "ignorance is bliss. How many times must we do this?" As one of the three great creatures of Headspace, Humphrey serves as a self-aware final boss that's trying to stop you from discovering the Truth. "Final boss" isn't quite the right word for it. He's closer to the final level of Pacman. A unbeatable barrier that Sunny is supposed to die against. That's what happened to all the skeletons lining his stomach, all that remains from the previous defeated loops. But Humphrey doesn't win. Not this time. Not when Sunny's about to move away the next day. You see, Humphrey is a metaphor for Headspace and Sunny himself. Like Sunny, Humphrey spends all his time inside of himself, talking with other versions of himself. All the characters in Headspace are just parts of Sunny's dream, and Sunny has retreated inside himself just like Humphrey. This fact is also referenced in the nature of Humphrey's level. Its a laboratory. While all the other areas in game are based on things in the real world, (Sweetheart's castle is based on Sweetheart movies; Last Resort on Sunny's blackjack computer game, etc) Humphrey's lab is never fully explained. While Humphrey himself is based on a baby book "Hungry Humphrey" implying that Humphrey is Sunny's oldest imaginary friend. But the laboratory is different. Its not based on anywhere in the real world, its based on an area in the Truth sequence. Shown at 23:36. The Humphrey laboratory is based on this hospital room, where patients watch cartoon programs of Sunny's adventures in Headspace as escapism, so they don't have to think about the medical reality of death, Mari's death. Humphrey is the last obstacle between Sunny and Blackspace. He literally gives the last key as a enemy drop, almost like he swallowed the key to keep Black Space locked away forever. He's described in the foe facts as "Absolute, raw terror." He represents the part of Sunny's mind thats screaming at him not to face the truth, to just run away and repeat the cycle again. But Sunny can't do it anymore. Sunny chooses to defeat Humphrey, striking him down in one blow, in a battle that should have been insurmountable. In the video, you said you want to unplay the game, so that you can be blissfully ignorant again. I'm sorry that you reached the end. I'm sorry that Humphrey couldn't stop you.
This is one, if not the best, description of how basically everyone felt about the fight with Humphrey after reaching the end of the game (specially the truth sequence).
Holy shit. That actually explains the atmosphere of that fight so well. No matter how overleveled you are, there's something about this fight that gives you pause. Pretty much everyone who has fought him says it felt like you weren't supposed to win.
Yes, when Noelle freezes an enemy, they are dead. If she uses Snowgrave on a normal enemy, they disappear into dust. Just like in Undertale when a monster dies. Also, she doesn't kill at Kris's command, she kill at the player's command, (or maybe, Kris forces Noelle to kill because the player is controlling them, so Kris is forced to do that too), which is different
At some points Noelle says that Kris' voice sounds different, that's most likely because she hears the _player_ and not Kris, which honestly makes the Snowgrave route even worse
@@VVen0m Yes! Exactly! That's the point of the whole snowgrave route: Kris is a puppet. Noelle too. But apparently, Susie is not... She is totally able to not obey to the player, like she does in almost the whole chapter 1
Also in regards to Deltarune Chapter 2, let's not forget how creepy Spamton can be, especially after you go through the Snowgrave route. In the base game, you hear his dark backstory, see someone or something trying to break free from him, and there's also the entirety of Spamton NEO as a boss and as a character. No matter if Spamton dies or is left behind, he's not going to remove those puppet strings. The Snowgrave route, on the other hand, doesn't give you any real insight into who Spamton is, as he only appears inside of his dumpster to sell you items and keep track of the remaining enemies. When you get through the route, however, Queen's castle is barren except for Spamtonized portraits, Pipis on the floor, and only a few select enemies, and let's not forget how he comes out of nowhere after the Queen fight is skipped. These two things combined, in the Snowgrave route at least, give us no reason to sympathize with Spmaton and makes him seem all the more sociopathic and deranged. Plus, it makes his death all the more satisfying than it would be if you fought him in the non-Snowgrave route.
Honestly, I think Drawn To Life 2 should've at least been mentioned. It's a sweet little game where you play as the Creator, whom draws a little hero that lives with these cute little creatures called Raposa, and the hero sails from island to island in an attempt to defeat Wilfre, a little gremlin who's stealing all the colors in the world. You make friends along the way, save the friends you already had that Wilfre captured, and soon enough, color is restored to the world! Oh wait, whoops, I accidentally wrote the cutesy, written-on-the-tin description for this game. Allow me to start over! The game is *actually* about you, who is *actually God,* creating *Jesus,* who lives with creatures called Raposa that are *figments of an injured child's imagination,* and *Jesus* sails from island to island in an attempt to stop *Satan* from completing his plan of keeping as much color out of the world as he can, so the world won't disappear. Why would the Raposa world disappear? Oh I dunno, maybe because *THE GAME LITERALLY, NOT EVEN KIDDING, TAKES PLACE IN THE DREAM OF A CHILD THAT BARELY SURVIVED A CAR CRASH, LOST BOTH OF HIS PARENTS, AND WENT INTO A COMA THAT INITIATED THE EVENTS OF THE FIRST TWO DRAWN TO LIFE GAMES. JUST A HUNCH THOUGH!* I also forgot to mention, all of that seriously happens in this game! I'm not making parallels that aren't there! That is literally the in-game explanation for everything that happens in this game! Drawn To Life 3 even thoroughly explains to the player, yes, that seriously happened! Tl;Dr: Drawn To Life 2 is a cute game, until the last three minutes at least.
@@darianclark3980 Fair, though keep in mind that this is a list about "shockingly dark games", not "disguised horror games". Hence why Bugsnax and Deltarune made the list, for example.
The most shockingly dark game I've probably ever played so far is Disco Elysium. While not a kids game, a lot of the games advertising makes it out to be a fun 70s detective game with unique table-top RPG mechanics. When you actually play the game though, you quickly discover how depressing and bleak it is. You pretty much play as a self-loathing, hoplessly depressed and suicidal detective who has lost all his memory and now has to try and solve a murder while piecing together who he once was in a war-torn poverty strucken place Revachol. I don't think I can do the game much justice by just describing all the other reasons why it's dark, so all I'm going to say is that you should play the game and experience it for yourself. It is a must play, an easy 10/10
I'm surprised World Of Goo didn't get an honorable mention. It turns from a happy game about collecting goo balls to The Lorax if it was written by Stephen King.
that game terrified me as a kid. I played it when I was 9, and something about exploring the internet and seeing the end of the world kinda screwed me up for a bit lol
I'm surprised there are still people who knows this game. I have to say this. I remember playing it nearly when it first came out, while I was around 5 (yes i was playing video games at those ages on my father's pc), and to the little me it was some goofy game with unusual level mechanics and random stuff happening. It then honestly became like a classic piece where even years passed, you still go back and see it again from time to time for me. But as I played it again and again, grown up more and more every time, I realized different details, understood the story, found some lore behind it, and then the dark even though not too deep themes it actually went along with. I was honestly surprised each time. Even though it might seem like some simple and unimportant game, it's one of those rare things I could say I grew up with, which even if I never really mention, makes the game special for me. Thanks for mentioning it.
I hope Omori is on here. It's probably my favorite indie game of all time and it's fantastic, while being extremely disturbing. the way it makes you feel like "this game can't possibly get too bad...right?" and then it hits you. not gonna spoil, you should definitely play it :) edit: yes number 2! (also I agree, Omori is the darkest game I've ever played too)
Yeah at first I was going “ha this game think it can scared and creepy me out” I have you know I’m genre savvy with these games and- *go into black space and cut the cat*………..this isn’t fun anymore. But real talk black space was quite something, I had to take a break just for how unsettling it got.
@@starmaker75 I knew the game's big twist because of somebody making a joke about it and the game still surprised me with how gruesome it was. the entire truth section was executed amazingly
I watched a review on it because the style of gameplay was not my cup of tea, but I can still say that the experience was almost the same as one you would get by playing it.
Oh jeez I remember bugsnax. It actually hit me really hard cause I caught on to the ideas of unhealthy coping mechanisms and overeating. I used to use food as a coping mechanism for my depression but all it did was make me super unhealthy and almost diabetic. I’ve since changed my eating habits and have lost 30 pounds cause of it
@@Luke-zj6ge OH REALLY NOW, ALL YOU DO IN THIS WHOLE VIDEO IS JUST SHIT ON THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE ANY FORM OF COMMENT ABOUT BUGSNAX AND ALSO THE GAME ITSELF. SHUT UP
@@horror__sans I highly recomend buying it! The gameplay itself is very fun and the story is definitely worth it. It sucks that you were spoiled, but I assure you getting to the ending yourself is a great experience.
I would throw in an honorable mention, earthbound Cultists telling you that you won’t go to heaven, Everdread, Moonside, and the FINAL BOSS I am not giving context to these cause spoilers
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time deserves a mention at least. Y'know, the RPG where the bros travel through time, teaming up with their baby selves to stop the Shroobs from destroying the Mushroom Kingdom and everything else? Often regarded as one of the darkest Mario games ever? Moments that really stand out are when you get a first taste of what the Shroobs are bringing in HolliJolli village. They bomb a village at Christmas time! And then there's Toadwood Forest where we find them strapping the Toads to trees and draining them of either their blood or lifeforce to convert it into fuel for their flying saucers and by the time the bros make it to the factory, the toads are dried up husks fusing with the trees begging for help! Y'know! For kids!
I've never actually played Bugsnax, but given what all you said, I came to the conclusion if ACNH and Avenue Q had a baby, and then THAT baby had a baby with obscure 80s horror movie, The Stuff. I'm surprised Bugsnax has an E10 rating!
You can get away with a lot of shite if your characters are non-human Case in point: hollow knight. On screen attempted suicide, on screen dead bodies galore, fighting the reanimated corpse of your own sibling, etc. All okay to portray since the characters are bugs and not people
I’m glad you like cringe. Bugsnax is a terrible example of Horror. The ideas are poorly executed. The story is stolen from much better media. The characters look awful. Absolutely the edgiest and worst game I’ve seen so far this year. Complete trash!
@@Luke-zj6ge Let me remind you, the video title says "Shockingly Dark Games", *not horror games,* implying the games that unexpectedly made a sudden turn of having dark themes unlike the expectations it gave at first. Say, what kind of 'dark' content are you expecting if it's not gonna be edgy a bit? Dark themes doesn't mean horror all the time, of course the game may not have disturbing/scary visuals albeit have struggle topics. Honestly I didn't play the game myself nor it made me interested now, but I can see why he placed it in number 1. Oh, also, I'm curious about the much better media you mentioned. Is it one single media are you saying or are you talking about medias with similar stories in general? If the earlier, what is it?
Hey so you got around to playing OMORI, really happy to see that, let alone its high spot on the list. I also definitely believe Snowgrave is darker than genocide.
I know that you couldn't decide on what Kirby game was the darkest, but I do have one that I think takes the cake. Planet Robobot: with the main antagonist, President Haltmann, spending his whole life on trying to reactivate a wish-granting machine to save his daughter he lost in an accident years ago. His memory begins to fade due to multiple uses of the machine, and eventually the machine takes over Haltmann's body and soul. You begin to destroy the machine, and as you destroy it's core you can hear the screams of agony and misery of Haltmann's soul as you destroy what is left of it until the machine is left as nothing but a metallic husk with no motive left. The saddest part about his story? A secretary began to work for him that looked oddly familiar to him. However, he knew not who she was due to his memory being wiped. He continued to use the machine more to find his daughter, but it would never work. It turns out that his secretary as a true identity, Susie's full name is "Suzanna Haltmann," President Haltmann's own daughter.
There was one part in Omori that like, broke me, it was in Black Space when you finally rescue Basil for the first time, right after the... cat room. I won't say what happens but I full body flinched and had to walk away from the screen for a little bit. I never really got psychological horror until I played that game, and now its defintley one of my favorite genres
Y'know what the cruelest joke about the cat room is? You don't have to do the thing it keeps telling you to do. There is a way to avoid it, but the game doesn't at all tell you how.
I’m not completely sure about this one, but Sky: Children of Light kinda caught me off guard. It’s not super scary, but the way it goes from “Pretty fantasy thing” to “Oh my god I’m going to die to krills” scared me, lol
I'm disappointed at myself for how not even thinking about this despite being a older than a year active player who plays since Season of Dreams (guess it was because I'm used to those parts, lol) but now that you mention it, you're right. This might also make Journey a possible choice, but yes Sky definitely catches new players off guard. Even the rewievs and the trailers of the game is about how soft, relaxing, beautiful etc. and between all that and what you have seen at the first half really makes you get catched off guard at _that_ specific section, plus the ending too. I'd say it probably isn't known that much since it's a mobile game, but yes it should definitely at least be a honorable mention.
krills scared me when i first joined to the point i literally left 😭 then ran all the way back to prairie and needed friends.. so yes i completely agree
I always thought that Omori had more inspiration from Yuume Nikki than from Earthbound, the concept of dreams, a shut in, damn, there's even a secuence (the name of the area it's a spoiler by itself) that resembles the main hub from Yuume Nikki, mostly because of the doors and background. (also, spoilers) And actually, most of the dream secuences are like that for a reason. It's supposed to distract Sunny, make him forget everything, the fact that the dream version of his friends were searching for Basil (that was always the one that discovered the first leaks from Black Space in every cycle), and slowly forgot what they were doing while being distracted with all of the objectives, Space Boyfriend's tape, escaping from Sweetheart's castle, the Last Resort, Humphrey.
While I got to know about Omori thanks to Yume Nikki after being a hardcore Yume Nikki addict for years, I actually feel like Omori inspired from a lot of things together with Yume Nikki and Earthbound. Yes it had definitely a lot of stuff from Yume Nikki, say the hikikomori protagonists with a game that takes place in dreams, _cough_ the Oyasumi ending _cough_, and the literal Black Space itself which I'd absolutely consider a Yume Nikki fangame if it was a separate game. Though, the Headspace in general reminded me of Earthbound a lot too, both of them are odd adventures you go through with your friends afterall, while also covering dark themes. But other than that it had also slight inspirations from other games too, hell even other kinds of media. Sweetheart's castle part with sbf was kinda anime-ish for an example, not to mention there were some little cultural themes in a few corners here and there, like japanese culture. Man, especially after looking around Omocat's tumblr, she really is a man of culture huh.
@@enolathealone well, if I remember correctly earthbound is more like 90% of the time it's just some funny weird and wacky adventure with your friends, the last part of the game being possible nightmare fuel for kids at that moment. Omori has more in between "dark" parts in headspace thanks to the leaks from the deepest part of Sunny's mind, to me it was like a mix of Yuume Nikki and what would happen if there was something between earthbound's pace and, idk, mother 3's pace ? But yeah, it's kind of a good mix between those, it even began it's developement at that moment where there was a boom thanks to games based on earthbound (Undertale, a game about hope and... Lisa the painful, that one) At the end, Omocat got an odd combination about the core of the game, but still a good one. Omocat, 100% culture. Still, I want her to pay my post-omori therapy.
Spoiler alert for spookys jumpscare mansion: Was I the only one who thought that the spookys jumpscare mansion entry was gonna be about how specimen 9 was a fallout human of unit 731, a experiment that took place in ww2, that resulted in tragedie. Was that just me? No Okay
Hey I thought it was going to be more in depth about the specimens such as the infamous Ben drowned game over screen the disturbing backstory of specimens like 5, 9, 10 and 11 and spookys tragic backstory about how she was killed after a prank went wrong by her father who had PTSD from world war two which we see fully manifest in the finale of the Dollhouse dlc, which actually links into specimen 9s origin story actually pretty damn clever On akumas part Btw when he said specimen eleven was not scary I was like you serious? you can do a lot worse than that, especially considering its in the same game with a floating baby head and Otto the otter so I consider it far from the shittiest enemy in sjm and I feel the food demon is one of the better ones as though I admit it to others it may not seem scary to me it's more ominous to me and despair inducing making it feel climactic as it gives this all powerful vibe due to many things such as it having the second highest kill count of the main game specimens the religious symbolism and grip it has on others and the player by fucking with the visuals and hiding the doors and the best and most unique game over screen in my opinion for how mysterious and forboding it is so it's more about psychological horror why I love it so much.
the reviewer 🎶Kinda Bug and kinda Snax you won't get you limbs back.🎶 this is probably the most simple explanation for how much of a random change in tone happens through out the game in Bugsnax.
Damn, he really said that Zero is the only standout example of gruesome imagery in a Kirby game right around the time Forgotten Land came out and showed us Fecto Forgo. Bad timing, man, bad timing.
I’m guessing it wasn’t mentioned due to it being semi-new right now in case people were trying to avoid spoilers but you still definitely make a good point.
@@derpsdeluxe Nah man these videos just take a while to make so sometimes a new game that's relevant to the topic comes out during production and there's not much you can do about it
I’m not gonna lie. I think Undertale’s Dark aspects are weak sauce in comparison to the Existential Dread of Deltarune (so far), from knowing that your player character is actively trying to resist your will by removing your soul from their body, to the act of Snowgrave Genocide being more than just wonton slaughter, but (literally)Cold calculated manipulation of a fragile girl who needed confidence more than raw power, and just the non-existence of The Dark Worlds, knowing that these worlds can be made and snapped out of existence with something as easy as sealing a fountain, and in the end some characters suspiciously knowing way too much. Plus let’s be frank, Undertale is dishonest. A good portion of the plot is easy to see as fabricated lies from a group of monsters salty about losing a war that they probably had more to do with then they’d let you believe. So honestly, I agree with the placement of Deltarune. I think it’s Existenial Horror far outstrips any obvious “horror” that Undertale has.
I do agree Deltarune is much more horrific than Undertale but still, don't diss that Undertale horror, both games go for a different sort of horror, for Undertale it's mostly body horror. (Flowey being the soul of a dead child now trapped in a flower unable to feel, the Almalgamates and the whole True Lab section, the other dead children souls which have been collected and kept for who knows how long trapped inside a glass container, Omega Flowey. Ect)
@@poppythedogofwonders Ngl, if that's Undertale's vision of horror, it's pretty weak. I mean, if you ask me, even stuff like when Undine first appears is more shocking than that.
@@Burn_Angel Nah, it ain't weak, it's kinda a slow burn type where you gotta stop and actually think about it to truly grasp the fuckmuppetry that's been going down. Ya gotta put yourself into those characters shoes and when you do is when it starts fuckin you up. Like the Amalgamates, imagine slowly dying in a lab and then you get injected with something and your fine and alive again only to then start fucking *_Melting_* and as you're panicking you bump into someone else and you both start fusing into each other and you can't stop it. THEN imagine having to live the rest of your life fused together with multiple other people and presumably your brains have also fused so you're not even the same person anymore. The cherry on top is being kept hidden in a underground grungy lab being fed dog kibble of all things for who knows how long. I could also go on about the horror of getting killed and having your soul being trapped inside a glass tube just having to watch the world go by for, once again, who knows how long. And then the whole thing with Flowey, dying and then suddenly you're awake but in a fucking flower. And then the realisation that flowers can't feel and you're now trapped in a unfeeling husk which eventually drives you crazy. Like goddamn. You can't tell me that ain't some shit.
@@poppythedogofwonders Sorry, in most of the cases, body horror is just shock content unless done particularly right. And Undertale's take on it is very weak. Unless you count Flowey's first transformation that is. I mean, that's still more shock than horror, but it's delivered a lot better. Honestly, if you care about this internet stranger's opinion, that last bit on the pacifist run feels as if it tried to rip off some RPGmaker game or something.
A week ago I asked my friend to download ddlc, as he didn’t knew anything about it, he saw some screenshots with spoilers, so I had to lie to him so he would get the full experience. He skipped most of the part, and thought that he could do smth corny with Yuri, until he saw Sayori hang herself. He was scared continuing playing the game, even though it’s not easy to scare him
I might as well throw in a game too. Spoilers for Etrian Odyssey 1 and its remake, Etrian Odyssey Untold: In the first EO game, it seems innocuous at first. That is, until you get to the 4th Stratum, Sandy Barrens. There's a race of humanoid creatures living in the Yggdrasil Labyrinth known as the forest folk. The Radha (basically Etria's city council) tasks you with eliminating the forest folk so you can gain access to the deeper reaches of the labyrinth. Basically, to get to the 5th Stratum, you are FORCED TO COMMIT A GENOCIDE. Then you get to the 5th Stratum, Lost Shinjuku. This whole damn time, you've been above a post-apocalyptic Japan.
_Soooo... How did it go?_ Though I must say it's a bit sad to see someone playing the game after literally seeing the most should'nt-be-seen spoiler possible for the game.
@@enolathealone well I’m still playing it and so far I’d say it’s quite disturbing, also I’m a movie fan, I’m used to getting literally everything spoiled for me, literally all my favourite movies (psycho, kill list, saw etc) have been spoiled for me vier one way or another, mostly because of those list channels telling you the plot twist of the film before actually telling you what film it is or giving you a spoiler warning.
@@InsanityContainmentz I see, but still, Omori is the piece of media that I'd most highly recommend going in blind. Neverthless, I hope you enjoy the game!
Suprised you didn't mention LiveALive, the entire game isn't too dark, few bits in the chapters aside. But the knight chapter. It doesn't prepare you for any of what's to come. What, think I'm going to spoil it? It's best you go in as blind as posible, for the ultimate experience. Watch an LP, just check it out!
Where can I see it? Is it a paid, is it on pc? And/or is there any gametubers/gameplays you would recommend to me? I'm honestly interested. Sorry if I'm asking too much though lol.
On the topic of Daniel Mullins, Inscryption was also really good. Not as dark as The Hex, but still good. Also another suggestion to the list: Cooking Companions. A cute dating-sim visual novel about cooking your friends some food in the the cabin in the woods you are staying within…until a storm hits and none of you have enough supplies to last and end up resorting to cannibalism
i'm glad the hex made it onto the list, i really love that game :D also i had no idea that number one had a twist like that, now i really want to play it.
Tbh I was a bit shocked when I saw The Hex. I've never really seen anyone mentioning it unlike Pony Island even though it left an impact on me for real when I saw it for the first time. I also had no idea the two (which I like both of them a lot) were by the same creator, so double shock to me I guess.
@@enolathealone yeah, i haven't seen many people talk about the hex outside of a few youtube channels. i actually wasn't really interested in inscryption at first, but once i realized it was made by daniel mullins i knew i had to try it, because i remembered just how good the hex was.
@@silverghost7360 I see. Tbh I did hear inscryption a couple times too and i wasn't interested in it really too, but now that I learned it's from Daniel too I'm curious. I'll definitely give it a go when I get the time.
And to add to that last post, I think that Kirby having really dark and disturbing final bosses makes perfect sense. Kirby is a being of pure goodness (depending on how you see it) so it only makes sense that the arch-nemesis of the series is an embodiment of pure evil, the exact opposite of Kirby and by extension dreamland. Dreamland is a happy, cute and charming place, doesn’t it make sense for the creatures that wish to destroy it to be eldritch horrors that are anything but that? It really drives home that these creatures ARE NOT from dreamland, and ARE. NOT. GOOD. and that makes the player want to defeat them. Because at its core Kirby is a story of Ultimate good (kind of) versus ultimate evil…either that or just mice, we can just fight mice for a whole game.
But I still consider it pretty weak, sure, the series possesses some of the most depressing stories in a game and I fell in love with both heroes and villains, but something the next games on the list have something that the Kirby series doesn’t: They don’t tell it, THEY SHOW THE ACTUAL DARKNESS.
@@chocostar1245 i think that’s because it’s like a buildup. We’re slowly getting to the point where we finally get to see the darkness. I don’t know when, but with how much Star Allies progressed the plot we have to be getting close.
@@slimewizard7350 Not to be hateful towards Kirby lore but, for a buildup it looks like an incomplete team project with some other elements added there and there. Even as a Kirby fan, I gotta add my criticism towards its writing, the characters are really bland without the lore (Like it’s their only character trait), the lore is only told in text, something an average gamer dislikes and tries to avoid at every cost. And a basic method of writing lore in the story is showing what happens in the story instead of telling it, something Kirby terribly fails at. Compared to the other titles... Kirby’s dark elements seem too “family friendly”, despite having indirects of grief, Corruption, suicide, insanity...
@@chocostar1245 yeah I kind of agree when you put it that way. I could say “but it’s Nintendo” but Zelda has gone through almost all of those and pokemon seems to have made those things it’s hobby. Now that you mention it, I kind of do wish that the franchise would just come out and say it. I still think that there’s something bigger coming.
@@slimewizard7350 Yeah, personally, Kirby lore is a really good trip, with all the rich elements the franchise has it could fit for at least a movie reel. I’m also believing in what the next Kirby game will be, with Star Allies and Forgotten Land we had two final bosses that are gods and are the source of the Ancients’ power, so I guess the lore is going to be more centered about them.
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but: Hatoful Boyfriend. *MASSIVE SPOILERS:* Not only have birds n humans been separated in an apartheid -like fashion, but they're at war. Plus, in the secret end, the star's own best friend is nearly used to commit genocide on humans, just barely stopped. And it's not even his will: he's being used.
Your voice and the count down editing feels so much like a top 10 video games video from 2010 or 15. Really nostalgic for a modern video. Glad to feel that same way again.
I have a feeling that Deltarune has potential to be even darker than Undertale's genocide route once we get all the chapters, especially if JaruJaruJ's theories are even in 1/4 correct Keep in mind I said "Deltarune", not "Deltarune's genocide run", you'll know why when you watch JaruJaruJ's theories, this guy needs more attentnion, I swear to God, he's a genius
I think portal 2 could have been up here also. It comes across as a pixar comedy at first, but becomes lovecraftianly desolate towards some parts. Especially when everything goes silent.
I love how with the snowgrave route you watch as noelle slowly “gets stronger” and gets to the point where they have a desire to literally murder their childhood friend. It really combines all the trauma of abusive parents and growing up to hate people into such a short game. That’s at least what I derive from it.
tbh if i could somehow remake and REWRITE it, i think i would do a terrifying great job at making the game way darker because i think im good at writing
A personal game that I think is surprisingly dark is chibi robo from the Nintendo GameCube. What initially seems like a cute, funky little adventure about a robot helping a family turns into a story with themes of resentment.
The Yakuza seires is a prime example of this, alot of people think of the goofy substories or karaoke music videos when they think of this seires. But it's actually a crime drama about family and life.
The staggering amount of children and young people you're doing quests for because they're poor/are missing parents/parents need help/etc makes me hate myself and yet I refuse to miss a single quest because the psychic damage is so strong.
I honestly did not expect Bugsnax to be on this list but now I know why and now I’m starting to look at this game differently and feel more scared of this game since the entirety of FNAF (except FNAF world and Sercurity Breach)
i think the reason of what makes the snowgrave even more disturbing than the genocide run is because of the fact not only are you commanding Noelle to kill, but that you are corrupting the sweetest, most lovable character in deltarune. (that's just my opinion tho-)
splatoon deserves to be on here. even if it's not directly trying to have horror elements. splatoon fans will know, and if you don't know... look it up
I honestly didn't expect Bugsnax to be at the top of the list, I mean sure, its alternative title would be Existential Crysis - The Game, but after the game from 2nd place, I thought it would be too cheerful and not that messed up for the top. Nice :3
I mean, the thing with Omori is that going in, you know there's something lingering under the surface, they make that fact pretty obvious, you just don't know how bad it is.
btw, may I suggest giving Library of Ruina a try? It's a sequel to Lobotomy Corporation (though it has completely different mechanics) and I like it enough to want to tell others about it. Also Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass acknowledgement heck yeah.
Honourable mention to a variety of odencat games for having games like bears restaurant which has a despair eating demon and bluebird of happiness where the twist is that the bluebird in the dream was your brother and the literal hint system was a trap to behead him.
Were people REALLY that disturbed by the Grumpuses limbs being transformed? I mean, I can understand AFTER beating the game, but before the game even came out? I find that strange
Ok chisel 2 by nitrome is a pretty dark game. The premise is you're a drilling robot in space that cuts planets down to size while avoiding or destroying violent robots. However, in chisel 2, Chisel's supervisor loses control of chisel and she destroys a bunch of planets and robots. For a flash game it made me think a lot as a kid. Those planets were people's homes. The robots do have families and I'm certain one planet was a nature preserve. Nitrome had a bunch of games that were dark, like Canary, AKA deadspace flash edition.
A game which seemed good in the beginning but became dark later, was mother 3. The beginning screen was so peaceful but once you start the game, it gets darker. And the deep stuff in the game is so dark.
I think one should maybe be pokemon, the entire premise is forcing animals to fight. But the villains are really the disturbing part, there is Cyrus who is a depressed man who wants to destroy earth, ghetsis who manipulated people into thinking Pokémon are sad with there trainers and want to be let free. Then Volo who starts out as a kind person helping you throughout your journey in hisui but turns out to be evil and uses giritina to try to get to arceas to create a new world and let this one rot. But it would probably just be an honarobal mention because it is just a fun game where you collect pokemon to become champion of the region
I suppose I'll throw in my games for this, the Metal Gear games, specifically Metal Gear Solid 2 with how the deconstructive nature and the nature of how the game unravelled with the meta narrative being at times especially thanks to the AI Colonel fucking creepy/eerie at times, he did a too good job alongside all the other genuinely unnerving/eerie/creepy shit the game does sometimes, also Metal Gear Solid 1 as Psycho Mantis genuinely bloody terrifying and is the one scary/tense moment in a game like MGS1.
If you ever do a part two of this, I would check out Eversion. It's kind of like a vintage Kirby game, except there's these layers of the universe you have to travel through to go through the levels, and the deeper through the layers you go the less cute and happy things are.
The Kirby series and Pokemon are pretty similar in how Kirby's games were described. Much of the surprisingly dark content in Pokemon is reserved to story/lore, text boxes, and *the Pokedex* (and Platinum had the jumpscare Giratina)
Even though I haven’t played it I’d like to shout out Needy Streamer Overload for making me genuinely uncomfortable for a good few hours after watching a walkthrough.
Actually Sectonia Soul who you fight at the end of Kirby Triple Deluxe's True Arena Mode gets very disturbing during the 2nd and final phase of the Boss Fight against her basically when the 2nd and final phase of the Boss Fight against her starts she's so obsessed with revenge against Kirby that she literally rips her head off and throughout the rest of the 2nd and final phase of the fight not only do we have to witness the sight of seeing purple blood ooze out of the stump where Sectonia's head used to be but Sectonia is holding her severed head which is laughing manically.
I distinclt remember buying Getting Spooky's House of Jumpscares (Now Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion) and it's so weird to see a random game that I vaguely remember being on a top 10 list.
Tales of series is very dark and scary despite having little blood. From human experimenting into monsters in Symphonia plus racism. Cloning and human trafficking in abyss and crestoria human shops for body parts. It's horrific if you read it. Batman Arkham series the scarecrow scenes are so scary and I think it could count as the series isn't directly a horror game. Dark souls. Neir series probably counts. I forgot the name but the vaults in that one game where we see it basically show Humanity in each horror situation we are put in. Twisted metal. Some of those endings are scary. I just wanted to destory cars. Any post apocalypse game where you explore the world and see how horrible and scary things become.
Nier kinda counts and honestly I love how dark and disturbing Twisted Metal is, same goes for the Arkham games. Also Fallout 3 nailed your last point well, too well despite how jank and poorly made Fallout 3 is but god I like it. Dark Souls 2 hard for me. Much prefer Bloodborne.
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne I feel the better horror games are ones that are subtle with the scares rather than just throw monsters at you. Kirby works this well enough fighting many biblical angels
@@ivanbluecool Silent Hill 2 is that for me, I feel like I'm walking in a dying/dead town in the dead of the morning knowing the local folk might not want me here for a v tense reason/the paranoia controlling you absolutely.
@@ivanbluecool Agreed, at times the atmosphere and the compounding feelings that your not supposed to be there adds more to the game, it's like walking down dark alleyways at 4am.
I would have put the number 2 slot in number 1, but other than that I agree with the choices. On that note I loved playing the number 2 game and getting all the endings. Nice choices all around. In fact I am currently downloading all of the Danganronpa games to replay. Thanks for putting me in a good mood to do so and I hope you and everyone who reads this has a Wonderful Wonderful.
reason he put it in number 2 is because at least 2 has some hints (even if it turns out to be much worse than hinted) number 1 hits you out of litterally nowhere
@@noobfart I felt that it hinted at it pretty well with the quest-givers slowly transforming showing that something was up with the creatures that they were eating.
Tbh I'm not even surprised Deltarune being a dark game considering its "Toby fox" who made it which also made Undertale. So yeah I totally expected Deltarune to be a dark game before it came out and I was right.
Honestly, not surprised that ddlc, Omori, and Bugsnax of all things are the top 3. Though, a little surprised Oneshot wasn’t atleast in the honorable mentions.
What makes DDLC truly horrifying to me is that it doesn’t go full dark and drop the cutesy look when it flips It keeps the cutesy art style the whole time, even when the characters croak, it sets up this uncanny and unsettling vibe throughout the whole game
I feel like a small detail about DDLC is how many chance scares there are, aka where the game rolls a chance, for example 1/6, and if you get it, something happens, from the hanging sayori poster in act 2, to the random end of poem act 2 scares, to Monika blue screening your pc for a short moment during one of the poems, even lowering it from top down (granted that last one is a guaranteed chance IF played on fullscreen, but it was worth mentioning imo), and the fact that NONE of these chance scares are in act 1
Ok so for OMORI. If you go regular route once THEN go Hikikomori route (Never leaving the house) IT GETS EVEN DARKER Sunny never leaves, never learns he killed MARI and he will slowly kill himself… There is another bad end where BASIL kill’s himself because you dont fight him, SUNNY KILLS HIMSELF TOO. There are multiple things that make it DARK…
Glad to see someone mentioning Yume Nikki but I'd say it wouldn't fit the list since the video is about plot twists we get while expecting a bright game, but getting a dark one. Yume Nikki just gives you the "wtf is happening" and "this makes no sense but i love it and i want to see more of it" vibe at the beginning and keeps it same untill the end
After getting into Attack On Titan, the snow grave route in Deltarune is seriously reminding me of what happened to The Royal Family in Season 4 Part 2.
Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass *BROKE ME.* Just READING about the game broke me! I cannot for the life of me, imagine how I would have survived if I had PLAYED the game, like I might have done, if it wasn't for me getting to curious and reading up on it/watching a video on it.
I'm honestly really sad that Jimmy and the pulsating mass was teased at the start of the video but it never made the list because it absolutely deserves to be up there
I can't believe I got back from reading the comments on that Isle of the Bigsnax trailer (said comments filled with "bugsnax is a horror game" jokes) and I still didn't expect to see Bugsnax on this list despite already knowing all its depths
Another pretty good game that came out recently and fits this list is What Lies in the Multiverse. I was not expecting that game to be as dark as it was, but that's what makes it one of my favourites!
whoaa, i’ve never even played bugsnax and i was like how could this be scarier than omori?? then i heard your explanation and damn. that’s pretty terrifying 😅 i really like the games you included in this video, they’re all deserving of their spots!
I thought Specimen 11 in Spooky's was horrific. The monster itself wasn't scary… it was more about the backstory and its implications; I feel like it appeals to a somewhat niche vibe of horror for those who are more deeply impacted by the horror-stories of fast food joints and meat and whatnot, it has a more disgusting/lose-your-appetite approach. And to put the cherry on top, if someone's face being pressed into a grill (or was it an oil fryer?) doesn't make your stomach churn idk what will
Oh, you missed the best part about the Snowgrave route. The game implies that Kris is just as manipulated as Noelle is and you, the player, are the one manipulating them
ya that kind of the point of deltarune when you think about it instead of being a game about how the creatures in the world react to the player it how the player character reacts to the player and seeing if there really ok with what there doing because it impossible to tell if kris is enjoying what the players doing or not because they rip the player out multiple times but they make a new nightmare fountain to have more adventure so ya compare to frisk there a painting with all the color instead of a blank one
Well the player doing this in all the cases not only on that rout . And that why you see kris acting weird when you choose something they don't like .
I also feel like there is another disturbing element of deltarune chapter two is the secret boss spamton. Spamton is a clearly unhinged and seems broken and desperate in his first fight he seems funny, but you can see the cracks form on how corrupted spamton is but this amps up in the spamton neo fight and his shop where he seems outright terrifying and creepy due to it being implied he doesn't have full control over his actions also not to mention he is the main antagonist of the snowgrave route as he gave you the thorn ring and intercepts Kris when they try to seal the fountain, then you realise why spamton is doing this not for a lust for power, or chaos but rather he is desperate and wants to be free by any means necessary as he has nothing to lose as his friends abandoned him because of a petty reason, which helped me empathise with spamton. This attitude is to the extent where even Kris themselves is terrified by spamton as implied in both his fights where Kris steps back from spamton in his first fight after he has a breakdown and forces out a no when you are given the option as Kris sees themselves in spamton trapped by a being beyond their control. this importance combined with how unimportant he is due to how little he is seen in deltarune chapter 2 compared to other characters which makes him such a compelling yet disturbing character, and why he is my favourite character in deltarune chapter 2.
@@valentinobisaccia1258 well similar thing happened to Jevil but the game didn't through the details like how it did with Spamton . I like them both and how the same person messed up with both of them . And i feel like when Spamton said to Kris that maybe they will be free from their strings he ment us who controling kris and we see how Kris don't like it .
Damn man we just in 2 chs from 7 and crazy thing already happens . I wonder who is the new secret boss and is they will be iconic like Spamton ?
@@ajdndbdjbdj well at the very least spamton feels like a step up from jevil, he's not a bad character by any means I still enjoy his character, it's just spamton does his job better and is more disturbing because Toby went all out with the character which makes him more memorable and an interesting note is that spamton almost foils jevil which makes him more interesting, with jevil he seems completely in control and contempt with his newfound "freedom" despite his nihilistic view on the world being a game, but despite that being bored and wanting to mingle with others in a game. With spamton he seems to actively resent his predicament and is not control of his actions despite his efforts and is desperate to gain any sort of freedom or even a friend, since everyone abandoned him, even if it means potentially destroying the world by absorbing the dark fountain and killing darkners indirectly thanks to Noelle and Kris. Like I said he has more depth than jevil which makes him more interesting and more disturbing.
Kirby deserves to be here because it's adorable but has a tramatizing moment out of nowhere
Dark matter and zero 2 are pretty much why
Cough cough *forgotten land* cough cough
*_AND HERE WE ARE_*
@@mini-magolor5661 Yeah, but the final bosses are usually the only disturbing bits from Kirby games anyway
@@korhol2065 void also
Omori absolutely broke me, but honestly the dark shit in it is why I love it so much. No game has ever meant me feel as sad, uncomfortable and terrified as Omori has, and while I loved the rest of the game, the final few hours honestly pushed it to be my favorite of all time
I haven’t even played OMORI, but from what I’ve seen, it’s my favorite game by far. The ones that I’ve actually PLAYED on the other hand… 💀
No, Doki Doki Literature Club deserves its spot on this list. It was quite a long while before it went so viral that people knew what they were getting into. Even six months after release, there were still streamers on Twitch (and not small ones either) who had no idea what they were getting into because they didn't follow that genre. All they knew is it had horror elements and that was if they'd bothered to read the warning at all. The game takes so long to flip the switch and advertises itself as so cute that to this day - parents ask if it's a game their kids can play.
On top of that, it is the little things that are more disturbing because once you've started to see the horror.. you realize all along, the game was dropping hints in the first act and you missed them. Many people miss the "traceback.txt" in the background when things go wrong too. It's a very clever game that deserves all the praise it got.
I dont think ddlc would be appropriate for kids even without the horror
@@zvgamingandstuff7633 lol
AGREE! and honestly this game even makes me question games like FNAF because it only really depends on jumpscares to be classified as "horror". Like at first it's pretty nerve-racking, but that's the only part it really gets you to be scared. But DDLC over here with the 4th wall breaks, disturbing imagery, and pretty touchy subjects.
i play day one before it was cool, totally blind. I want to try the game because characters are so cute and i like weeb shit. I read some warnings i thought it might be some sad story will happen on the game but thats ok. But then i was wrong and get fucked. The game are beyond that. it even messes with the game files, my mind are blown by this crazy 4th wall shit but It also makes me so scared that i played the game on windowed mode lmao. In the end im glad i played it blindly without knowing anything about it and i enjoyed the game shock value to the max.
Ddlc was amazing! They managed to do everything right to create something that seemed so cute and innocent only for you to later discover how dark it is. From 4th wall breaks to subtle foreshadowing of events that would happen later, the way it was written was perfect.
I always say that Ultra Despair Girls is the creepiest out of the franchise. Sure the main games and DR3 anime had shocking moments, but UDG felt very unsettling because of the kids' involvement.
Udg felt like peak danganronpa to me. Dr2 missed some of its crazy psychopop style but udg delivered twofold.
I loved it. Also BECAUSE the kids involvement. I loved it as DR game, thats supposed to make you feel like witnessing a roadkill, painful to look at but unable to avert your eyes. By just skimming over topics so dark and real, by having them in but not playing main role in story, it reminds us how little attention we give to issues that are present in our world and very much real.
UDG wanted to make you scarred, feel this disturbing stuff branded in your brain, making you flinch when you think about it - not just when the game shows it, losing relevance when the credits roll.
Thats whats danganronpa to me.
Glad to see people like the game
22:25 You just had to mention Humphrey didn't you.... What if I told you Humphrey was terrifying for a reason. He was trying to keep you from that last hour of the game, but you powered on anyway and you have no one but yourself for the trauma it gave you.
(Massive explanation/spoilers below)
It's explained that Headspace is a looping "cycle of blissful ignorance" designed to keep Sunny from reaching the Truth. And in Humphrey's boss fight he even references this saying "I'm afraid this cycle will never end", and that, "ignorance is bliss. How many times must we do this?" As one of the three great creatures of Headspace, Humphrey serves as a self-aware final boss that's trying to stop you from discovering the Truth. "Final boss" isn't quite the right word for it. He's closer to the final level of Pacman. A unbeatable barrier that Sunny is supposed to die against. That's what happened to all the skeletons lining his stomach, all that remains from the previous defeated loops.
But Humphrey doesn't win. Not this time. Not when Sunny's about to move away the next day. You see, Humphrey is a metaphor for Headspace and Sunny himself. Like Sunny, Humphrey spends all his time inside of himself, talking with other versions of himself. All the characters in Headspace are just parts of Sunny's dream, and Sunny has retreated inside himself just like Humphrey.
This fact is also referenced in the nature of Humphrey's level. Its a laboratory. While all the other areas in game are based on things in the real world, (Sweetheart's castle is based on Sweetheart movies; Last Resort on Sunny's blackjack computer game, etc) Humphrey's lab is never fully explained. While Humphrey himself is based on a baby book "Hungry Humphrey" implying that Humphrey is Sunny's oldest imaginary friend. But the laboratory is different. Its not based on anywhere in the real world, its based on an area in the Truth sequence. Shown at 23:36. The Humphrey laboratory is based on this hospital room, where patients watch cartoon programs of Sunny's adventures in Headspace as escapism, so they don't have to think about the medical reality of death, Mari's death.
Humphrey is the last obstacle between Sunny and Blackspace. He literally gives the last key as a enemy drop, almost like he swallowed the key to keep Black Space locked away forever. He's described in the foe facts as "Absolute, raw terror." He represents the part of Sunny's mind thats screaming at him not to face the truth, to just run away and repeat the cycle again. But Sunny can't do it anymore. Sunny chooses to defeat Humphrey, striking him down in one blow, in a battle that should have been insurmountable.
In the video, you said you want to unplay the game, so that you can be blissfully ignorant again.
I'm sorry that you reached the end. I'm sorry that Humphrey couldn't stop you.
so thaaats what that room was
that room was the one thing i never understood about the final few hours of the game
jdhslkjhjkahkhf I love this thank yuoui
This is one, if not the best, description of how basically everyone felt about the fight with Humphrey after reaching the end of the game (specially the truth sequence).
Always great to see your explanation Grey-Sark.
Holy shit. That actually explains the atmosphere of that fight so well. No matter how overleveled you are, there's something about this fight that gives you pause. Pretty much everyone who has fought him says it felt like you weren't supposed to win.
Y’know looking at Noelle in the thumbnail, I realized that Snowgrave feels a lot like a certain level from A Hat in Time…
True
Which one
@@thevoidwalkerbr one of the time rifts in the dlc (seal the deal to be specific)
@@thestrange2742 oh THAT LEVEL
Haven’t really played it yet but now I get the comment, thanks!
@@thebraviarykid7849 your welcome
Yes, when Noelle freezes an enemy, they are dead. If she uses Snowgrave on a normal enemy, they disappear into dust. Just like in Undertale when a monster dies.
Also, she doesn't kill at Kris's command, she kill at the player's command, (or maybe, Kris forces Noelle to kill because the player is controlling them, so Kris is forced to do that too), which is different
At some points Noelle says that Kris' voice sounds different, that's most likely because she hears the _player_ and not Kris, which honestly makes the Snowgrave route even worse
@@VVen0m Yes! Exactly! That's the point of the whole snowgrave route: Kris is a puppet. Noelle too.
But apparently, Susie is not... She is totally able to not obey to the player, like she does in almost the whole chapter 1
@@ramhthewatermelon Also explains why Spamton tells Kris that they are the same
@@mintxeye5149 Cuz they are both puppets
@@ramhthewatermelon Susie and Lancer
they're both funny
idk
Also in regards to Deltarune Chapter 2, let's not forget how creepy Spamton can be, especially after you go through the Snowgrave route. In the base game, you hear his dark backstory, see someone or something trying to break free from him, and there's also the entirety of Spamton NEO as a boss and as a character. No matter if Spamton dies or is left behind, he's not going to remove those puppet strings. The Snowgrave route, on the other hand, doesn't give you any real insight into who Spamton is, as he only appears inside of his dumpster to sell you items and keep track of the remaining enemies. When you get through the route, however, Queen's castle is barren except for Spamtonized portraits, Pipis on the floor, and only a few select enemies, and let's not forget how he comes out of nowhere after the Queen fight is skipped. These two things combined, in the Snowgrave route at least, give us no reason to sympathize with Spmaton and makes him seem all the more sociopathic and deranged. Plus, it makes his death all the more satisfying than it would be if you fought him in the non-Snowgrave route.
Honestly, I think Drawn To Life 2 should've at least been mentioned. It's a sweet little game where you play as the Creator, whom draws a little hero that lives with these cute little creatures called Raposa, and the hero sails from island to island in an attempt to defeat Wilfre, a little gremlin who's stealing all the colors in the world. You make friends along the way, save the friends you already had that Wilfre captured, and soon enough, color is restored to the world!
Oh wait, whoops, I accidentally wrote the cutesy, written-on-the-tin description for this game. Allow me to start over!
The game is *actually* about you, who is *actually God,* creating *Jesus,* who lives with creatures called Raposa that are *figments of an injured child's imagination,* and *Jesus* sails from island to island in an attempt to stop *Satan* from completing his plan of keeping as much color out of the world as he can, so the world won't disappear. Why would the Raposa world disappear? Oh I dunno, maybe because *THE GAME LITERALLY, NOT EVEN KIDDING, TAKES PLACE IN THE DREAM OF A CHILD THAT BARELY SURVIVED A CAR CRASH, LOST BOTH OF HIS PARENTS, AND WENT INTO A COMA THAT INITIATED THE EVENTS OF THE FIRST TWO DRAWN TO LIFE GAMES. JUST A HUNCH THOUGH!* I also forgot to mention, all of that seriously happens in this game! I'm not making parallels that aren't there! That is literally the in-game explanation for everything that happens in this game! Drawn To Life 3 even thoroughly explains to the player, yes, that seriously happened!
Tl;Dr: Drawn To Life 2 is a cute game, until the last three minutes at least.
That sounds more like a sad tragic ending then horror. Hence why it isnt on the list
@@darianclark3980 Fair, though keep in mind that this is a list about "shockingly dark games", not "disguised horror games". Hence why Bugsnax and Deltarune made the list, for example.
@@ethnictendo fair point even though I haven't played any of the games on the list or drawn to life at all.
@@victorhurwitz5559 I do recommend the Drawn To Life games, even though I did indeed spoil the ending of the second game. XD
@@ethnictendo that's fine to be honest with you I just don't care because I'll probably forget the spoiler and maybe I will play the game who knows.
The most shockingly dark game I've probably ever played so far is Disco Elysium.
While not a kids game, a lot of the games advertising makes it out to be a fun 70s detective game with unique table-top RPG mechanics. When you actually play the game though, you quickly discover how depressing and bleak it is.
You pretty much play as a self-loathing, hoplessly depressed and suicidal detective who has lost all his memory and now has to try and solve a murder while piecing together who he once was in a war-torn poverty strucken place Revachol. I don't think I can do the game much justice by just describing all the other reasons why it's dark, so all I'm going to say is that you should play the game and experience it for yourself. It is a must play, an easy 10/10
I'm surprised World Of Goo didn't get an honorable mention. It turns from a happy game about collecting goo balls to The Lorax if it was written by Stephen King.
that game terrified me as a kid. I played it when I was 9, and something about exploring the internet and seeing the end of the world kinda screwed me up for a bit lol
I'm surprised there are still people who knows this game. I have to say this. I remember playing it nearly when it first came out, while I was around 5 (yes i was playing video games at those ages on my father's pc), and to the little me it was some goofy game with unusual level mechanics and random stuff happening. It then honestly became like a classic piece where even years passed, you still go back and see it again from time to time for me. But as I played it again and again, grown up more and more every time, I realized different details, understood the story, found some lore behind it, and then the dark even though not too deep themes it actually went along with. I was honestly surprised each time. Even though it might seem like some simple and unimportant game, it's one of those rare things I could say I grew up with, which even if I never really mention, makes the game special for me. Thanks for mentioning it.
so ig we all played this game as kids
I used to play that with my siblings and we had the time of our lives
@@serenitydoessomething7656 lmao same
I hope Omori is on here. It's probably my favorite indie game of all time and it's fantastic, while being extremely disturbing. the way it makes you feel like "this game can't possibly get too bad...right?" and then it hits you. not gonna spoil, you should definitely play it :)
edit: yes number 2! (also I agree, Omori is the darkest game I've ever played too)
Yeah at first I was going “ha this game think it can scared and creepy me out” I have you know I’m genre savvy with these games and-
*go into black space and cut the cat*………..this isn’t fun anymore. But real talk black space was quite something, I had to take a break just for how unsettling it got.
@@starmaker75 I knew the game's big twist because of somebody making a joke about it and the game still surprised me with how gruesome it was. the entire truth section was executed amazingly
Frick yeah! Omori is awesome
I watched a review on it because the style of gameplay was not my cup of tea, but I can still say that the experience was almost the same as one you would get by playing it.
@@plaidhatter1674 the gameplay is the thing people are most mixed about but honestly I really enjoyed it because I love RPGs
Oh jeez I remember bugsnax. It actually hit me really hard cause I caught on to the ideas of unhealthy coping mechanisms and overeating. I used to use food as a coping mechanism for my depression but all it did was make me super unhealthy and almost diabetic. I’ve since changed my eating habits and have lost 30 pounds cause of it
Too bad the game is trash lol
@@Luke-zj6ge Pls be nice, this person's been through a lot.
@@Luke-zj6ge you’re legit the most annoyingly person in this comment section.
@@Luke-zj6ge OH REALLY NOW, ALL YOU DO IN THIS WHOLE VIDEO IS JUST SHIT ON THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE ANY FORM OF COMMENT ABOUT BUGSNAX AND ALSO THE GAME ITSELF. SHUT UP
I am really happy that Bugsnax is getting some attention still. 😊
Literally bought Bugsnax today and started a playthrough because of this video. It got my attention, for sure.
@The Arrogant Writer Warning, it takes a sharp veer into dark towards the end.
Also the DLC is pretty cool
I'm so glad you mentioned Omori here! Played it recently and yeah, this game absolutely broke me. Hope you'll talk about it more in the future.
so shpuld i buy it? sadly i heard a very very dumbed down spoiler ending
@@horror__sans I highly recomend buying it! The gameplay itself is very fun and the story is definitely worth it. It sucks that you were spoiled, but I assure you getting to the ending yourself is a great experience.
I would throw in an honorable mention, earthbound
Cultists telling you that you won’t go to heaven, Everdread, Moonside, and the FINAL BOSS
I am not giving context to these cause spoilers
Don't forget, sexy women luring you into a hotel room, while a distorted hotel theme plays.
@@KittyKatty999 ooh yeah
The Don't Go to Heaven part was simply 'Go to Hell' in the original Japanese, but, really, it's the same sentiment, either way.
The entire series could make it on here imo
@@redacculous
Especially mother 3.
I’m a simple fella. I see Dafawfulizer and Spooky’s Jumpscare Mansion in the same video, I click.
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time deserves a mention at least. Y'know, the RPG where the bros travel through time, teaming up with their baby selves to stop the Shroobs from destroying the Mushroom Kingdom and everything else? Often regarded as one of the darkest Mario games ever? Moments that really stand out are when you get a first taste of what the Shroobs are bringing in HolliJolli village. They bomb a village at Christmas time! And then there's Toadwood Forest where we find them strapping the Toads to trees and draining them of either their blood or lifeforce to convert it into fuel for their flying saucers and by the time the bros make it to the factory, the toads are dried up husks fusing with the trees begging for help! Y'know! For kids!
I've never actually played Bugsnax, but given what all you said, I came to the conclusion if ACNH and Avenue Q had a baby, and then THAT baby had a baby with obscure 80s horror movie, The Stuff. I'm surprised Bugsnax has an E10 rating!
Bugsnax is actual trash.
You can get away with a lot of shite if your characters are non-human
Case in point: hollow knight. On screen attempted suicide, on screen dead bodies galore, fighting the reanimated corpse of your own sibling, etc. All okay to portray since the characters are bugs and not people
If they aimed the game to a higher audience they might of made it a pure horror game not just at the end
Seeing the Number 1 pick made me so irrationally happy.
That game SERIOUSLY needs more people to talk about it.
I’m glad you like cringe. Bugsnax is a terrible example of Horror. The ideas are poorly executed. The story is stolen from much better media. The characters look awful. Absolutely the edgiest and worst game I’ve seen so far this year. Complete trash!
@@Luke-zj6ge Let me remind you, the video title says "Shockingly Dark Games", *not horror games,* implying the games that unexpectedly made a sudden turn of having dark themes unlike the expectations it gave at first. Say, what kind of 'dark' content are you expecting if it's not gonna be edgy a bit? Dark themes doesn't mean horror all the time, of course the game may not have disturbing/scary visuals albeit have struggle topics. Honestly I didn't play the game myself nor it made me interested now, but I can see why he placed it in number 1.
Oh, also, I'm curious about the much better media you mentioned. Is it one single media are you saying or are you talking about medias with similar stories in general? If the earlier, what is it?
@@Luke-zj6ge You're the sigh of Dafawfulizer
Hey so you got around to playing OMORI, really happy to see that, let alone its high spot on the list. I also definitely believe Snowgrave is darker than genocide.
I know that you couldn't decide on what Kirby game was the darkest, but I do have one that I think takes the cake.
Planet Robobot: with the main antagonist, President Haltmann, spending his whole life on trying to reactivate a wish-granting machine to save his daughter he lost in an accident years ago. His memory begins to fade due to multiple uses of the machine, and eventually the machine takes over Haltmann's body and soul. You begin to destroy the machine, and as you destroy it's core you can hear the screams of agony and misery of Haltmann's soul as you destroy what is left of it until the machine is left as nothing but a metallic husk with no motive left. The saddest part about his story? A secretary began to work for him that looked oddly familiar to him. However, he knew not who she was due to his memory being wiped. He continued to use the machine more to find his daughter, but it would never work. It turns out that his secretary as a true identity, Susie's full name is "Suzanna Haltmann," President Haltmann's own daughter.
There was one part in Omori that like, broke me, it was in Black Space when you finally rescue Basil for the first time, right after the... cat room. I won't say what happens but I full body flinched and had to walk away from the screen for a little bit. I never really got psychological horror until I played that game, and now its defintley one of my favorite genres
Y'know what the cruelest joke about the cat room is? You don't have to do the thing it keeps telling you to do. There is a way to avoid it, but the game doesn't at all tell you how.
Predictions before watching:
Omori, Undertale, Drawn to Life 2, Bugsnax, DDLC, Spec Ops The Line, Rules of Rose, and probably a Danganronpa or two
You got 4 right nice
Ain't no way you said spec ops, that one is kinda obv
@@ian_3244 People expected something like COD. Not "War Criminal Guilt 2012"
I’m not completely sure about this one, but Sky: Children of Light kinda caught me off guard. It’s not super scary, but the way it goes from “Pretty fantasy thing” to “Oh my god I’m going to die to krills” scared me, lol
I'm disappointed at myself for how not even thinking about this despite being a older than a year active player who plays since Season of Dreams (guess it was because I'm used to those parts, lol) but now that you mention it, you're right. This might also make Journey a possible choice, but yes Sky definitely catches new players off guard. Even the rewievs and the trailers of the game is about how soft, relaxing, beautiful etc. and between all that and what you have seen at the first half really makes you get catched off guard at _that_ specific section, plus the ending too. I'd say it probably isn't known that much since it's a mobile game, but yes it should definitely at least be a honorable mention.
krills scared me when i first joined to the point i literally left 😭 then ran all the way back to prairie and needed friends.. so yes i completely agree
I haven't gotten past Golden Wasteland because I still can't handle the krills ;-;
I always thought that Omori had more inspiration from Yuume Nikki than from Earthbound, the concept of dreams, a shut in, damn, there's even a secuence (the name of the area it's a spoiler by itself) that resembles the main hub from Yuume Nikki, mostly because of the doors and background. (also, spoilers)
And actually, most of the dream secuences are like that for a reason.
It's supposed to distract Sunny, make him forget everything, the fact that the dream version of his friends were searching for Basil (that was always the one that discovered the first leaks from Black Space in every cycle), and slowly forgot what they were doing while being distracted with all of the objectives, Space Boyfriend's tape, escaping from Sweetheart's castle, the Last Resort, Humphrey.
While I got to know about Omori thanks to Yume Nikki after being a hardcore Yume Nikki addict for years, I actually feel like Omori inspired from a lot of things together with Yume Nikki and Earthbound.
Yes it had definitely a lot of stuff from Yume Nikki, say the hikikomori protagonists with a game that takes place in dreams, _cough_ the Oyasumi ending _cough_, and the literal Black Space itself which I'd absolutely consider a Yume Nikki fangame if it was a separate game. Though, the Headspace in general reminded me of Earthbound a lot too, both of them are odd adventures you go through with your friends afterall, while also covering dark themes. But other than that it had also slight inspirations from other games too, hell even other kinds of media. Sweetheart's castle part with sbf was kinda anime-ish for an example, not to mention there were some little cultural themes in a few corners here and there, like japanese culture.
Man, especially after looking around Omocat's tumblr, she really is a man of culture huh.
@@enolathealone well, if I remember correctly earthbound is more like 90% of the time it's just some funny weird and wacky adventure with your friends, the last part of the game being possible nightmare fuel for kids at that moment.
Omori has more in between "dark" parts in headspace thanks to the leaks from the deepest part of Sunny's mind, to me it was like a mix of Yuume Nikki and what would happen if there was something between earthbound's pace and, idk, mother 3's pace ? But yeah, it's kind of a good mix between those, it even began it's developement at that moment where there was a boom thanks to games based on earthbound (Undertale, a game about hope and... Lisa the painful, that one)
At the end, Omocat got an odd combination about the core of the game, but still a good one.
Omocat, 100% culture.
Still, I want her to pay my post-omori therapy.
@@omoriperocondrip9130 I couldn't agree more yeah
Spoiler alert for spookys jumpscare mansion:
Was I the only one who thought that the spookys jumpscare mansion entry was gonna be about how specimen 9 was a fallout human of unit 731, a experiment that took place in ww2, that resulted in tragedie. Was that just me?
No
Okay
Hey I thought it was going to be more in depth about the specimens such as the infamous Ben drowned game over screen the disturbing backstory of specimens like 5, 9, 10 and 11 and spookys tragic backstory about how she was killed after a prank went wrong by her father who had PTSD from world war two which we see fully manifest in the finale of the Dollhouse dlc, which actually links into specimen 9s origin story actually pretty damn clever
On akumas part
Btw when he said specimen eleven was not scary I was like you serious? you can do a lot worse than that, especially considering its in the same game with a floating baby head and Otto the otter so I consider it far from the shittiest enemy in sjm and I feel the food demon is one of the better ones as though I admit it to others it may not seem scary to me it's more ominous to me and despair inducing making it feel climactic as it gives this all powerful vibe due to many things such as it having the second highest kill count of the main game specimens the religious symbolism and grip it has on others and the player by fucking with the visuals and hiding the doors and the best and most unique game over screen in my opinion for how mysterious and forboding it is so it's more about psychological horror why I love it so much.
I was really shocked he didn't bring it up
I started screaming when you were talking about the ps5 on number 1. Bugsnax is amazing
SAME
the reviewer 🎶Kinda Bug and kinda Snax you won't get you limbs back.🎶 this is probably the most simple explanation for how much of a random change in tone happens through out the game in Bugsnax.
Bugsnax is trash, poorly put together. The story is hilariously bad. The edgy characters are shit too.
Damn, he really said that Zero is the only standout example of gruesome imagery in a Kirby game right around the time Forgotten Land came out and showed us Fecto Forgo. Bad timing, man, bad timing.
Void termina Is Also hella scary
I’m guessing it wasn’t mentioned due to it being semi-new right now in case people were trying to avoid spoilers but you still definitely make a good point.
@@derpsdeluxe Nah man these videos just take a while to make so sometimes a new game that's relevant to the topic comes out during production and there's not much you can do about it
One thing I find funny is that subnautica could qualify.
Not because you don't expect it to be scary, the DEVS didn't!
I’m not gonna lie. I think Undertale’s Dark aspects are weak sauce in comparison to the Existential Dread of Deltarune (so far), from knowing that your player character is actively trying to resist your will by removing your soul from their body, to the act of Snowgrave Genocide being more than just wonton slaughter, but (literally)Cold calculated manipulation of a fragile girl who needed confidence more than raw power, and just the non-existence of The Dark Worlds, knowing that these worlds can be made and snapped out of existence with something as easy as sealing a fountain, and in the end some characters suspiciously knowing way too much. Plus let’s be frank, Undertale is dishonest. A good portion of the plot is easy to see as fabricated lies from a group of monsters salty about losing a war that they probably had more to do with then they’d let you believe. So honestly, I agree with the placement of Deltarune. I think it’s Existenial Horror far outstrips any obvious “horror” that Undertale has.
I do agree Deltarune is much more horrific than Undertale but still, don't diss that Undertale horror, both games go for a different sort of horror, for Undertale it's mostly body horror.
(Flowey being the soul of a dead child now trapped in a flower unable to feel, the Almalgamates and the whole True Lab section, the other dead children souls which have been collected and kept for who knows how long trapped inside a glass container, Omega Flowey. Ect)
Okay you’re not wrong there, I still think Deltarune’s Existential Dread hits harder tho.
@@poppythedogofwonders Ngl, if that's Undertale's vision of horror, it's pretty weak.
I mean, if you ask me, even stuff like when Undine first appears is more shocking than that.
@@Burn_Angel Nah, it ain't weak, it's kinda a slow burn type where you gotta stop and actually think about it to truly grasp the fuckmuppetry that's been going down.
Ya gotta put yourself into those characters shoes and when you do is when it starts fuckin you up.
Like the Amalgamates, imagine slowly dying in a lab and then you get injected with something and your fine and alive again only to then start fucking *_Melting_* and as you're panicking you bump into someone else and you both start fusing into each other and you can't stop it.
THEN imagine having to live the rest of your life fused together with multiple other people and presumably your brains have also fused so you're not even the same person anymore.
The cherry on top is being kept hidden in a underground grungy lab being fed dog kibble of all things for who knows how long.
I could also go on about the horror of getting killed and having your soul being trapped inside a glass tube just having to watch the world go by for, once again, who knows how long.
And then the whole thing with Flowey, dying and then suddenly you're awake but in a fucking flower. And then the realisation that flowers can't feel and you're now trapped in a unfeeling husk which eventually drives you crazy.
Like goddamn. You can't tell me that ain't some shit.
@@poppythedogofwonders Sorry, in most of the cases, body horror is just shock content unless done particularly right. And Undertale's take on it is very weak. Unless you count Flowey's first transformation that is. I mean, that's still more shock than horror, but it's delivered a lot better.
Honestly, if you care about this internet stranger's opinion, that last bit on the pacifist run feels as if it tried to rip off some RPGmaker game or something.
"Sayori's su!c!de really throws you for a loop."
Uh. Of course it does. It's a noose.
A week ago I asked my friend to download ddlc, as he didn’t knew anything about it, he saw some screenshots with spoilers, so I had to lie to him so he would get the full experience. He skipped most of the part, and thought that he could do smth corny with Yuri, until he saw Sayori hang herself.
He was scared continuing playing the game, even though it’s not easy to scare him
I might as well throw in a game too.
Spoilers for Etrian Odyssey 1 and its remake, Etrian Odyssey Untold:
In the first EO game, it seems innocuous at first. That is, until you get to the 4th Stratum, Sandy Barrens. There's a race of humanoid creatures living in the Yggdrasil Labyrinth known as the forest folk. The Radha (basically Etria's city council) tasks you with eliminating the forest folk so you can gain access to the deeper reaches of the labyrinth. Basically, to get to the 5th Stratum, you are FORCED TO COMMIT A GENOCIDE. Then you get to the 5th Stratum, Lost Shinjuku. This whole damn time, you've been above a post-apocalyptic Japan.
Honestly, I think that No Straight Roads was perfectly placed on this list. It DEFINITELY isn't dark enough to crack at least the number 10 spot.
Hmm, I wonder if the Hikikomori route's content is relevant to Omori's entry on this list.
Thanks for convincing me to never play Omori ever.
Edit: wow, I can’t keep my word to save my life! About to purchase Omori on steam.
_Soooo... How did it go?_ Though I must say it's a bit sad to see someone playing the game after literally seeing the most should'nt-be-seen spoiler possible for the game.
@@enolathealone well I’m still playing it and so far I’d say it’s quite disturbing, also I’m a movie fan, I’m used to getting literally everything spoiled for me, literally all my favourite movies (psycho, kill list, saw etc) have been spoiled for me vier one way or another, mostly because of those list channels telling you the plot twist of the film before actually telling you what film it is or giving you a spoiler warning.
@@InsanityContainmentz I see, but still, Omori is the piece of media that I'd most highly recommend going in blind. Neverthless, I hope you enjoy the game!
do it do it do it do it
Suprised you didn't mention LiveALive, the entire game isn't too dark, few bits in the chapters aside. But the knight chapter. It doesn't prepare you for any of what's to come. What, think I'm going to spoil it? It's best you go in as blind as posible, for the ultimate experience. Watch an LP, just check it out!
Honestly...I don't blame the Knight, for what ended up happening in later chapters. That would break ANYONE.
Where can I see it? Is it a paid, is it on pc? And/or is there any gametubers/gameplays you would recommend to me? I'm honestly interested. Sorry if I'm asking too much though lol.
On the topic of Daniel Mullins, Inscryption was also really good.
Not as dark as The Hex, but still good.
Also another suggestion to the list: Cooking Companions. A cute dating-sim visual novel about cooking your friends some food in the the cabin in the woods you are staying within…until a storm hits and none of you have enough supplies to last and end up resorting to cannibalism
I went into that game believing it when it said it was a cardgame and it ruined me for like a week and a half
ooooo i love cooking companions!
No. 6 sounds like a sick, twisted version of Kids Next Door...although THAT show could get messed-up at times.
I’m glad you eliminated the idea of excluding games well known for their shock. It’s unfair to those games.
i'm glad the hex made it onto the list, i really love that game :D also i had no idea that number one had a twist like that, now i really want to play it.
You should even when i knew what was going to happen i still was hooked, the game is great play it
you should also play inscryption
Tbh I was a bit shocked when I saw The Hex. I've never really seen anyone mentioning it unlike Pony Island even though it left an impact on me for real when I saw it for the first time. I also had no idea the two (which I like both of them a lot) were by the same creator, so double shock to me I guess.
@@enolathealone yeah, i haven't seen many people talk about the hex outside of a few youtube channels. i actually wasn't really interested in inscryption at first, but once i realized it was made by daniel mullins i knew i had to try it, because i remembered just how good the hex was.
@@silverghost7360 I see. Tbh I did hear inscryption a couple times too and i wasn't interested in it really too, but now that I learned it's from Daniel too I'm curious. I'll definitely give it a go when I get the time.
And to add to that last post, I think that Kirby having really dark and disturbing final bosses makes perfect sense. Kirby is a being of pure goodness (depending on how you see it) so it only makes sense that the arch-nemesis of the series is an embodiment of pure evil, the exact opposite of Kirby and by extension dreamland. Dreamland is a happy, cute and charming place, doesn’t it make sense for the creatures that wish to destroy it to be eldritch horrors that are anything but that? It really drives home that these creatures ARE NOT from dreamland, and ARE. NOT. GOOD. and that makes the player want to defeat them. Because at its core Kirby is a story of Ultimate good (kind of) versus ultimate evil…either that or just mice, we can just fight mice for a whole game.
But I still consider it pretty weak, sure, the series possesses some of the most depressing stories in a game and I fell in love with both heroes and villains, but something the next games on the list have something that the Kirby series doesn’t:
They don’t tell it, THEY SHOW THE ACTUAL DARKNESS.
@@chocostar1245 i think that’s because it’s like a buildup. We’re slowly getting to the point where we finally get to see the darkness. I don’t know when, but with how much Star Allies progressed the plot we have to be getting close.
@@slimewizard7350 Not to be hateful towards Kirby lore but, for a buildup it looks like an incomplete team project with some other elements added there and there. Even as a Kirby fan, I gotta add my criticism towards its writing, the characters are really bland without the lore (Like it’s their only character trait), the lore is only told in text, something an average gamer dislikes and tries to avoid at every cost. And a basic method of writing lore in the story is showing what happens in the story instead of telling it, something Kirby terribly fails at.
Compared to the other titles... Kirby’s dark elements seem too “family friendly”, despite having indirects of grief, Corruption, suicide, insanity...
@@chocostar1245 yeah I kind of agree when you put it that way. I could say “but it’s Nintendo” but Zelda has gone through almost all of those and pokemon seems to have made those things it’s hobby. Now that you mention it, I kind of do wish that the franchise would just come out and say it. I still think that there’s something bigger coming.
@@slimewizard7350 Yeah, personally, Kirby lore is a really good trip, with all the rich elements the franchise has it could fit for at least a movie reel. I’m also believing in what the next Kirby game will be, with Star Allies and Forgotten Land we had two final bosses that are gods and are the source of the Ancients’ power, so I guess the lore is going to be more centered about them.
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but: Hatoful Boyfriend.
*MASSIVE SPOILERS:*
Not only have birds n humans been separated in an apartheid -like fashion, but they're at war. Plus, in the secret end, the star's own best friend is nearly used to commit genocide on humans, just barely stopped. And it's not even his will: he's being used.
I like the idea of FREEZING in COMPUTER WORLD
Its like when your computer freezes, turns white and you cannot move it
Your voice and the count down editing feels so much like a top 10 video games video from 2010 or 15.
Really nostalgic for a modern video. Glad to feel that same way again.
I have a feeling that Deltarune has potential to be even darker than Undertale's genocide route once we get all the chapters, especially if JaruJaruJ's theories are even in 1/4 correct
Keep in mind I said "Deltarune", not "Deltarune's genocide run", you'll know why when you watch JaruJaruJ's theories, this guy needs more attentnion, I swear to God, he's a genius
I think portal 2 could have been up here also. It comes across as a pixar comedy at first, but becomes lovecraftianly desolate towards some parts. Especially when everything goes silent.
I love how with the snowgrave route you watch as noelle slowly “gets stronger” and gets to the point where they have a desire to literally murder their childhood friend. It really combines all the trauma of abusive parents and growing up to hate people into such a short game. That’s at least what I derive from it.
tbh if i could somehow remake and REWRITE it, i think i would do a terrifying great job at making the game way darker because i think im good at writing
So glad Bugsnax got the number one spot, as it deserves it.
A personal game that I think is surprisingly dark is chibi robo from the Nintendo GameCube. What initially seems like a cute, funky little adventure about a robot helping a family turns into a story with themes of resentment.
The Yakuza seires is a prime example of this, alot of people think of the goofy substories or karaoke music videos when they think of this seires. But it's actually a crime drama about family and life.
The staggering amount of children and young people you're doing quests for because they're poor/are missing parents/parents need help/etc makes me hate myself and yet I refuse to miss a single quest because the psychic damage is so strong.
I honestly did not expect Bugsnax to be on this list but now I know why and now I’m starting to look at this game differently and feel more scared of this game since the entirety of FNAF (except FNAF world and Sercurity Breach)
Glad to see Kirby and Bug Snax as a top 10
i think the reason of what makes the snowgrave even more disturbing than the genocide run is because of the fact not only are you commanding Noelle to kill, but that you are corrupting the sweetest, most lovable character in deltarune. (that's just my opinion tho-)
splatoon deserves to be on here. even if it's not directly trying to have horror elements.
splatoon fans will know, and if you don't know... look it up
I honestly didn't expect Bugsnax to be at the top of the list, I mean sure, its alternative title would be Existential Crysis - The Game, but after the game from 2nd place, I thought it would be too cheerful and not that messed up for the top. Nice :3
I mean, the thing with Omori is that going in, you know there's something lingering under the surface, they make that fact pretty obvious, you just don't know how bad it is.
So glad someone is talking bout The Hex, it is probably one of my favorite DM games of all time.
the hex needs way more recognition
btw, may I suggest giving Library of Ruina a try? It's a sequel to Lobotomy Corporation (though it has completely different mechanics) and I like it enough to want to tell others about it.
Also Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass acknowledgement heck yeah.
Oh hey! My brother loves that game, he plays it all the time :D
I also think the Snowgrave route is darker than Genocide, it just feels more "wrong" to be a corrupter than a destroyer.
Honourable mention to a variety of odencat games for having games like bears restaurant which has a despair eating demon and bluebird of happiness where the twist is that the bluebird in the dream was your brother and the literal hint system was a trap to behead him.
Were people REALLY that disturbed by the Grumpuses limbs being transformed? I mean, I can understand AFTER beating the game, but before the game even came out? I find that strange
Ok chisel 2 by nitrome is a pretty dark game. The premise is you're a drilling robot in space that cuts planets down to size while avoiding or destroying violent robots. However, in chisel 2, Chisel's supervisor loses control of chisel and she destroys a bunch of planets and robots. For a flash game it made me think a lot as a kid. Those planets were people's homes. The robots do have families and I'm certain one planet was a nature preserve. Nitrome had a bunch of games that were dark, like Canary, AKA deadspace flash edition.
Man, I played loads of Nitrome games when I was a kid! I loved playing Twin Shot with my friends.
A game which seemed good in the beginning but became dark later, was mother 3. The beginning screen was so peaceful but once you start the game, it gets darker. And the deep stuff in the game is so dark.
okay omori's number 2 so i want to know whats number 1;
dafawfulizer: lets go back to 2020, the ps5 had just come out
me: *flashbacks*
Also, I'm glad that you mentioned Sunny killing Mari was an accident. Way too many people miss that.
I think one should maybe be pokemon, the entire premise is forcing animals to fight. But the villains are really the disturbing part, there is Cyrus who is a depressed man who wants to destroy earth, ghetsis who manipulated people into thinking Pokémon are sad with there trainers and want to be let free. Then Volo who starts out as a kind person helping you throughout your journey in hisui but turns out to be evil and uses giritina to try to get to arceas to create a new world and let this one rot. But it would probably just be an honarobal mention because it is just a fun game where you collect pokemon to become champion of the region
The minute I saw the title of the video, I just knew that you'd put Bugsnax SOMEWHERE in the list
I suppose I'll throw in my games for this, the Metal Gear games, specifically Metal Gear Solid 2 with how the deconstructive nature and the nature of how the game unravelled with the meta narrative being at times especially thanks to the AI Colonel fucking creepy/eerie at times, he did a too good job alongside all the other genuinely unnerving/eerie/creepy shit the game does sometimes, also Metal Gear Solid 1 as Psycho Mantis genuinely bloody terrifying and is the one scary/tense moment in a game like MGS1.
If you ever do a part two of this, I would check out Eversion. It's kind of like a vintage Kirby game, except there's these layers of the universe you have to travel through to go through the levels, and the deeper through the layers you go the less cute and happy things are.
The Kirby series and Pokemon are pretty similar in how Kirby's games were described. Much of the surprisingly dark content in Pokemon is reserved to story/lore, text boxes, and *the Pokedex* (and Platinum had the jumpscare Giratina)
Even though I haven’t played it I’d like to shout out Needy Streamer Overload for making me genuinely uncomfortable for a good few hours after watching a walkthrough.
Actually Sectonia Soul who you fight at the end of Kirby Triple Deluxe's True Arena Mode gets very disturbing during the 2nd and final phase of the Boss Fight against her basically when the 2nd and final phase of the Boss Fight against her starts she's so obsessed with revenge against Kirby that she literally rips her head off and throughout the rest of the 2nd and final phase of the fight not only do we have to witness the sight of seeing purple blood ooze out of the stump where Sectonia's head used to be but Sectonia is holding her severed head which is laughing manically.
I distinclt remember buying Getting Spooky's House of Jumpscares (Now Spooky's Jumpscare Mansion) and it's so weird to see a random game that I vaguely remember being on a top 10 list.
Tales of series is very dark and scary despite having little blood. From human experimenting into monsters in Symphonia plus racism. Cloning and human trafficking in abyss and crestoria human shops for body parts. It's horrific if you read it.
Batman Arkham series the scarecrow scenes are so scary and I think it could count as the series isn't directly a horror game.
Dark souls.
Neir series probably counts.
I forgot the name but the vaults in that one game where we see it basically show Humanity in each horror situation we are put in.
Twisted metal. Some of those endings are scary. I just wanted to destory cars.
Any post apocalypse game where you explore the world and see how horrible and scary things become.
Nier kinda counts and honestly I love how dark and disturbing Twisted Metal is, same goes for the Arkham games.
Also Fallout 3 nailed your last point well, too well despite how jank and poorly made Fallout 3 is but god I like it.
Dark Souls 2 hard for me. Much prefer Bloodborne.
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne I feel the better horror games are ones that are subtle with the scares rather than just throw monsters at you.
Kirby works this well enough fighting many biblical angels
@@ivanbluecool Silent Hill 2 is that for me, I feel like I'm walking in a dying/dead town in the dead of the morning knowing the local folk might not want me here for a v tense reason/the paranoia controlling you absolutely.
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne oh and the music. With a good sound track you will feel the fear
@@ivanbluecool Agreed, at times the atmosphere and the compounding feelings that your not supposed to be there adds more to the game, it's like walking down dark alleyways at 4am.
I would have put the number 2 slot in number 1, but other than that I agree with the choices. On that note I loved playing the number 2 game and getting all the endings. Nice choices all around. In fact I am currently downloading all of the Danganronpa games to replay. Thanks for putting me in a good mood to do so and I hope you and everyone who reads this has a Wonderful Wonderful.
reason he put it in number 2 is because at least 2 has some hints (even if it turns out to be much worse than hinted)
number 1 hits you out of litterally nowhere
In all honesty, Bugsnax shouldn’t even be on this list. It’s actual cringe
@@noobfart I felt that it hinted at it pretty well with the quest-givers slowly transforming showing that something was up with the creatures that they were eating.
@@Luke-zj6ge I disagree for the same reasons that are stated in the video.
@@darkcat282 Agree to disagree. Bugsnax has much more cons than pros.
Tbh I'm not even surprised Deltarune being a dark game considering its "Toby fox" who made it which also made Undertale. So yeah I totally expected Deltarune to be a dark game before it came out and I was right.
Honestly, not surprised that ddlc, Omori, and Bugsnax of all things are the top 3. Though, a little surprised Oneshot wasn’t atleast in the honorable mentions.
Lmao. Bugsnax is trash.
What makes DDLC truly horrifying to me is that it doesn’t go full dark and drop the cutesy look when it flips
It keeps the cutesy art style the whole time, even when the characters croak, it sets up this uncanny and unsettling vibe throughout the whole game
Yeah
On god, Omori should be #1 it's so much more fucked then bugsnax, he didn't even get that much into backspace...
I feel like a small detail about DDLC is how many chance scares there are, aka where the game rolls a chance, for example 1/6, and if you get it, something happens, from the hanging sayori poster in act 2, to the random end of poem act 2 scares, to Monika blue screening your pc for a short moment during one of the poems, even lowering it from top down (granted that last one is a guaranteed chance IF played on fullscreen, but it was worth mentioning imo), and the fact that NONE of these chance scares are in act 1
Pleseantly surprised you choose what you did for number 1. I didn`t know it excited until a few months ago. Very good pick.
Ok so for OMORI.
If you go regular route once THEN go Hikikomori route (Never leaving the house) IT GETS EVEN DARKER Sunny never leaves, never learns he killed MARI and he will slowly kill himself…
There is another bad end where BASIL kill’s himself because you dont fight him, SUNNY KILLS HIMSELF TOO.
There are multiple things that make it DARK…
When you said “Omori” I was like “SCORE!”
I did NOT expect Omori, it’s such a small game, but I’m happy to see it! (Also where’s Yume Nikki?)
Glad to see someone mentioning Yume Nikki but I'd say it wouldn't fit the list since the video is about plot twists we get while expecting a bright game, but getting a dark one. Yume Nikki just gives you the "wtf is happening" and "this makes no sense but i love it and i want to see more of it" vibe at the beginning and keeps it same untill the end
In case it makes you feel better about spooky's jumpscare mansion the game is about unit 731
No its not
After getting into Attack On Titan, the snow grave route in Deltarune is seriously reminding me of what happened to The Royal Family in Season 4 Part 2.
Jimmy and the Pulsating Mass *BROKE ME.* Just READING about the game broke me! I cannot for the life of me, imagine how I would have survived if I had PLAYED the game, like I might have done, if it wasn't for me getting to curious and reading up on it/watching a video on it.
You got put Sanitarium on the list. That game can truly dark.
I'm honestly really sad that Jimmy and the pulsating mass was teased at the start of the video but it never made the list because it absolutely deserves to be up there
I I would've put it on here. The only issue is I never played it
I can't believe I got back from reading the comments on that Isle of the Bigsnax trailer (said comments filled with "bugsnax is a horror game" jokes) and I still didn't expect to see Bugsnax on this list despite already knowing all its depths
Not to mention it’s overrated edgy trash. Worst Horror game I’ve ever seen, absolutely the worst
@@Luke-zj6ge Yeah Omori should have been number 1
@@devonbennett6559 This video is unexpected dark games. Omori is a game you could already tell is dark. Bugsnax is surprisingly dark
12:21 “Seems like it was designed for a more light-hearted adventure” he says as one character holds scissors to another character’s throat
Forgotten land really helps with the imagery aspect of the Kirby series lol
To be honest, Spooky’s Jumpscare Mansion is the only one in this list I like. Scary, but cute and cool.
Just found you today, As a Joshscorcher fan, I gotta say, you do a good job
Remember, every Kel meme is Canon!
Another pretty good game that came out recently and fits this list is What Lies in the Multiverse. I was not expecting that game to be as dark as it was, but that's what makes it one of my favourites!
whoaa, i’ve never even played bugsnax and i was like how could this be scarier than omori?? then i heard your explanation and damn. that’s pretty terrifying 😅 i really like the games you included in this video, they’re all deserving of their spots!
I thought Specimen 11 in Spooky's was horrific. The monster itself wasn't scary… it was more about the backstory and its implications; I feel like it appeals to a somewhat niche vibe of horror for those who are more deeply impacted by the horror-stories of fast food joints and meat and whatnot, it has a more disgusting/lose-your-appetite approach. And to put the cherry on top, if someone's face being pressed into a grill (or was it an oil fryer?) doesn't make your stomach churn idk what will