WHEN CALLS THE HEART Season 12 Upsets the Fans

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  • @PAUL-pz3rz
    @PAUL-pz3rz 18 днів тому +26

    We don't want WCTH to go into "Soap Opera" territory. This show is far to good to let that happen. WCTH has set the standard other shows need to aspire to.

    • @Michelle-wn8zv
      @Michelle-wn8zv 17 днів тому +4

      It's not going to go to soap opera territory. Because they know if they ever brought Jack back from the dead, they would lose the majority of the true fans because we all know how stupid that would be.

    • @PAUL-pz3rz
      @PAUL-pz3rz 17 днів тому +4

      @@Michelle-wn8zv I'm with you Michelle, the writers and producers are smart enough to know, this is a once in a career show and they don't want to mess that up.

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 17 днів тому +3

      Too late for that. It's already in soap opera territory.

    • @Michelle-wn8zv
      @Michelle-wn8zv 17 днів тому

      @ not to the point where they're bringing dead people back alive! That was the point of my statement

    • @FrancescaMalley
      @FrancescaMalley 15 днів тому

      I think along with a few other fans, this is the makings of a soap opera. Okay by me, but it’s definetly getting there.

  • @juliepeters5824
    @juliepeters5824 5 днів тому +1

    I haven’t even watched this at all since Lucas and Elizabeth were separated 🤮

  • @chelseakkong
    @chelseakkong 11 днів тому +3

    It's as mentioned this series has become a soap drama. It is poor writing. There are better writers and show runners out there than these people currently on the series. This series was supposed to honour what is beautiful but now it is just giving people the same as every other show that doesn't want what is respectful and beautiful. They should have started a separate series instead of trying to remake the story and continue as if its the same. It is not the same series as the characters that people used to love are not poor in character. I don't appreciate how they are making Lucas worse every season since s10. This is only because they want to make people like the other two together. I don't find this respectful. The comments people are making against Lucas and Chris are unreasonable. It is the showrunner and writers currently that are damaging the character now the actor. Things are getting worse every season.

  • @lauracamus7319
    @lauracamus7319 17 днів тому +9

    Was over Elizabeth & her wishy-washy ways after she told Nathan she wasn't IN love with him, got engaged to Lucas, then dumped him last-minute at train station, only to start swooning over Nathan. What a callous player. She should have ended up ALONE! Can't stand her. Still like Nathan, even if he is a sap, & Lucas, who didn't deserve Elizabeth. Good riddance. Love Lee & Rosie, fave couple, & everyone in Hope Valley BUT Elizabeth & her stupid little basket.

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 14 днів тому

      Lucas is actually a lot like Jack aside from a few aspects. I don't like Nathan.

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 4 дні тому

      @@lauracamus7319 I don't think Nathan is suitable for her.

  • @alyce831
    @alyce831 17 днів тому +14

    Stop putting lies out about Jack coming back because he isn’t. Daniel is completely done with the show.

  • @marymoran6343
    @marymoran6343 18 днів тому +22

    That would be so stupid to bring Jack back

    • @alyce831
      @alyce831 17 днів тому +1

      @marymoran6343 they are not bringing Jack back. His character is dead and Daniel is 100% done with the show.

  • @catherinemeadows6682
    @catherinemeadows6682 12 днів тому +4

    They have really ruined this show. Breaking up Elizabeth and Lucas was a big mistake.

  • @chrismuzzerall2287
    @chrismuzzerall2287 15 днів тому +9

    I have to agree. I feel that Elizabeth was much better suited to Lucas, and frankly I'm rather tired of this soap opera. Jack has been gone since season 5, so we have had 6 seasons of Elizabeth waffling between Nathan and lucas. Enough already. I think if the producers had polled the Hearties they might not have made this mistake. I felt it was very out of character for Elizabeth to ditch Lucas in the way that she did.

    • @catherinemeadows6682
      @catherinemeadows6682 12 днів тому +1

      I agree with you. Elizabeth and Lucs should have gotten married. The show has gone to the dogs.

    • @vivianprescott9038
      @vivianprescott9038 День тому

      How very sad that you don’t trust the Writers to know best what and why they chose this decision and chose Nathan. I believe they knew exactly what this show needed. Nathan is a true to life person with strength and much Love which Elizabeth needed and so much desired. Lucas is a dreamer and things have not turned out so well. I Love Lucas and pray they find something great for him he deserves. But it is not Elizabeth. He belongs with Elizabeth. He Loves her and even Cherishes her with his Whole heart and soul. I am so Loving When Calls the Heart. So excited to see where this is all going. Watched every season and Love them all. Keep up the great work because we Love this show so much. Nathan and Elizabeth waiting for that Wedding and your children. You are Great.♥️🙏🏻😇♥️🙏🏻😇

  • @marieharman1894
    @marieharman1894 17 днів тому +10

    I love Nathan and Elizabeth together again!

    • @JudiBond
      @JudiBond 16 днів тому +1

      Again????

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 4 дні тому

      @@marieharman1894 they are more like sister and brother and friends.

  • @AphroditeMichelle
    @AphroditeMichelle 17 днів тому +18

    I'm almost fed up with the bs storylines with Elizabeth. If she marries Nathan, I'm done!!

    • @terriminter1127
      @terriminter1127 17 днів тому +8

      I'm with you. I love her with Lucas

    • @gangan9814
      @gangan9814 17 днів тому +7

      Me too! Lucas all the way!

    • @audreycumby1075
      @audreycumby1075 17 днів тому +3

      I agree.. Elizabeth should have stayed with Lucas!

  • @sandrapasseno3564
    @sandrapasseno3564 17 днів тому +7

    Please no more Janette

  • @doriscarrington8802
    @doriscarrington8802 11 днів тому +1

    I want Jack to come back. It won't be the same. Jack and Elizabeth were a prefect couple. Please bring Jack back

  • @suzie3918
    @suzie3918 17 днів тому +20

    I really hope Nathan and Elizabeth gets Married in Season 12 ❤❤❤

  • @julesc3089
    @julesc3089 17 днів тому +11

    I haven’t watched this stupid show ever since she went with Nathan. Once Jack was gone, Elizabeth is so annoying.

  • @danielegiraud7461
    @danielegiraud7461 14 днів тому +2

    En France, après la saison 1sortie en français chez Amazon, plus rien 😢!! Alors que beaucoup de personnes achètera ient volontiers les autres saisons. Pourquoi n'avons nous pas la suite ?

  • @bonnielawson4686
    @bonnielawson4686 17 днів тому +11

    I want Elizabeth with Lucas

    • @janeausten9068
      @janeausten9068 14 днів тому +2

      With Lucas she has love in her eyes

  • @cynthiabarnard6395
    @cynthiabarnard6395 17 днів тому +25

    I think the writers should have Jack come back, then Elizabeth choose Jack over Nathan!! Maybe the Nathan fans will really understand, feel the pain, hurt, disgust and total misleading of Lucas & Elizabeth's courtship and engagement ( how many seasons of Lucas and Elizabeth's GREAT LOVE for each other, POOF.... GONE)!? How the rug was pulled out from under us by the writer's!!?😱 Maybe get a little taste of how the Lucas fans really felt about the break up!! 💔💔💔Still very disappointed about the end turn of Season 10!!! After all, did they switch to Nathan because Lucas was becoming as popular a character as Elizabeth with their most beautiful, well written, acted out by both Erin & Chris, "one of a kind" love story??? Clearly the love connection and chemistry between Nathan and Elizabeth DOES NOT EVEN COME CLOSE to what the writer's had with Lucas and Elizabeth's "love story"!! No matter how hard the writers try to make Nathan and Elizabeth "appear" to be in love now and have chemistry together!! Very very disheartening for this "Heartie" still!!😢

    • @Michelle-wn8zv
      @Michelle-wn8zv 17 днів тому +5

      This show is not a 1980s days of our lives show. They are not going to bring Jack back from the dead. and if they did, I would no longer wash it because that would be completely stupid.

    • @MrsStarking07
      @MrsStarking07 17 днів тому +3

      After the sudden and ridiculous breakup between Elizabeth and Lucas, I was done. They had a beautiful story line and it was silly to end it! I'm so tired of Elizabeth's conflicted love life story line!

    • @craigaholic1
      @craigaholic1 17 днів тому +2

      Please....everyone on whatever silly team they were on had or had to deal with the changes. E was always meant to be with a mountie. That's is how the story went. Bringing Jack back would be the dumbest thing they could ever do. This is historical fiction. It's not Dallas or Days of our Lives. Please can we just move on and be grownups about this? How long are people going to hemhaw about this? Most women who have lost a spouse have a hard time moving on. They sometimes may hurt someone unintentionally because they made a wrong decision. It's natural and it even happens in real life too. So if people are sooooo unhappy with the direction the story took. Just don't watch it. Quit acting like something sooo terrible has been done to a fictional character and to you. It is still a TV show at the end of the day .not life or death.

    • @cynthiabarnard6395
      @cynthiabarnard6395 17 днів тому +1

      It is like a Days of Our Lives, in that they toyed with some Hearties into believing Lucas and Elizabeth were a couple for a few seasons and then were engaged!!! Then Elizabeth dropped Lucas in less than 3 minutes end of Season 10. No other couples on WCTH led anyone else on in a relationship for several episodes and then dropped them because they were in love with someone else!!! Just was saying bringing Jack back because Nathan fans would not want to have been lead on for so many seasons and then Elizabeth drop Nathan all of the sudden!!

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 17 днів тому +3

      I think the writers need to have Nathan break up with Elizabeth...it's about time we see Elizabeth deal with heartbreak. She's been a terrible flirt all along, hurting way too many men. Lucas and Nathan aren't the only ones. She hurt Jack and Charles too.

  • @rondahoffman3281
    @rondahoffman3281 13 днів тому +4

    I love the fact that Nathan and Elizabeth are together. All the fans do not feel the same about Jack returning. Let the writers do the writing.
    Thank you

  • @chelseakkong
    @chelseakkong 14 днів тому +4

    Yes. They are destroying Lucas now. How terrible. Chris is a great actor and his character should not be ruined by terrible writing. Elizabeth Stewart seems to really show a toxic aspect of writing. Every time she writes about Lucas she is ruining him. His character is not bad like the way they are showing him. It is the bad writing. This first episode is awful and I don't expect them to write good stories since they don't respect Lucas. Janette Oke's version of the saloon owner is nothing like this now. I also don't appreciate that they are changing Nathan to make him seem better than he is. Sorry, these people don't know how to keep the character's true to who they are. They basically changed Elizabeth, Rosemary, N, and now Lucas too. Very terrible writing. This sounds like they are very jealous.

  • @chelseakkong
    @chelseakkong 14 днів тому +2

    The show runner refuses to listen to how the fans feel about how they ruin the characters.

  • @vandanerisgomes9009
    @vandanerisgomes9009 15 днів тому +3

    Série linda parabéns , AMEI a história , desde o começo , ela tinha que ser o Nathan , Elizabeth por fim fez ótima escolha lindo ver Elizabeth e Nathan juntos fantástico

  • @marymoran6343
    @marymoran6343 18 днів тому +20

    No soap opera please

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 14 днів тому

      It is a soap opera and its gotten worse every season.

  • @sarakruger1281
    @sarakruger1281 17 днів тому +7

    If jack came back she's still married she can't marry Nathan

  • @brendacolenutt9506
    @brendacolenutt9506 17 днів тому +7

    So looking forward to the blended Grant family. Hopefully a wedding earlier in the season.

  • @Jenny-k7n6p
    @Jenny-k7n6p 18 днів тому +18

    Absolutely not. Lucas isn’t even in the equation. Jack then Nathan are Elizabeth’s true loves.

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 14 днів тому

      Not Nathan.

    • @Jenny-k7n6p
      @Jenny-k7n6p 11 днів тому +1

      @ How about rewatching S6 and 7 - it was was always Nathan for Elizabeth. Only CM blinded ladies can’t see what always was.

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 11 днів тому

      @@Jenny-k7n6p that is very rude. We did watch it. From another lens, there is a different perspective so Lucas and Elizabeth fans will never agree. Nathan was not a nice person either in s6-10. I still don't like his character even now and just because they are making him nicer doesn't mean other fans will like him. They have a choice not to. I also find Nathan fans are also not nice either. Jack is much more lovable. Again, no respect towards Lucas and Chris McNally.

    • @Jenny-k7n6p
      @Jenny-k7n6p 10 днів тому +1

      @@chelseakkong Nothing I said was rude. Nathan came from a troubled family, he became a Mountie to be a better man than his father. He took in his niece when his sister died. He came to Hope Valley to I look after a woman and child he felt responsible for, even though Jack’s death was NOT his fault. L on the other hand was a rich, spoiled man who used his money for his own gain. Brought trouble from his past to Hope Valley more than once. He was originally written as mysterious, cocky and spoiled which made him interesting. Tinker sanitized him and made him E’s lurking, tea drinking arm candy. Lindsay is bringing him back to what he was. I’m trying to like L and I’m interested in his story this season. How about giving Nathan a chance. It’s time to stop the hate and try to come together as fans of the show.

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 4 дні тому

      @@Jenny-k7n6p I'm just wondering if you would feel the same way if and when the show switched back to having Lucas and Elizabeth together. You clearly didn't like the E&L pairing, nor did you like JT. AM wrote L to be a rich man who used his money to help others and invest in the community. His past wasn't as troubled as Nathan's, but his childhood and youth were also not ideal. He suffered from neglect and had never been accepted anywhere. That's why he understood how Allie felt. He was a mysterious man who had made enemies by helping people. In season 6 and 7 we never saw Lucas use his money for his own gain. He invested in the community. JT did not substantially change Lucas' character. AM also wrote Nathan to be aloof, judgmental, critical, and needy. Why are you critical of people who don't like the E&N pairing and disapprove of LS's rewriting of the character of Jeanette, of her dumbing down of Elizabeth? JT made Nathan a much more likeable person than he was originally written to be - more similar to Kevin McGarry's own personality. I personally believe that JT and LS are both good writers with a completely different style of writing. I do think that JT cared more about his viewers though. LS seems to derive pleasure from inflicting pain on the viewers. JT tried to avoid this as much as possible. Anyhow, neither JT nor LS chose the direction of the show. They take their orders about who Elizabeth is going to be with from the higher-ups. For viewers to blame JT or LS for Elizabeth's choice is just unfair and unkind. So far, in season 12, Nathan has been a nicer person than he was in season 11, so, yes, I can give him a chance. Season 11 Nathan was absolutely awful....you are right, just like AM originally wrote him to be. Season 12 he is looking more like JT's version of him, and, eventually, I suspect LS will change his character to be barely recognizable from how he was originally written by AM. But that's OK. It's her prerogative and it's their show. They can write it how they please, and we get to choose whether we watch or not. We are also all free to state our personal preferences and should never be berated or belittled for doing so.

  • @carolsteinmark1500
    @carolsteinmark1500 13 днів тому +2

    Why can’t people understand that she never loved Lucas. It was always Nathan but she was afraid to get involved with another Mountie. She had to work it out.

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 12 днів тому

      So then she lied at Jack's grave when she said she did love Lucas? What about "I wish I could love you with all of my heart"? Ah well, the story according to your ilk make Nathan and Elizabeth into a pair of immoral cheating liars...and awfully manipulative and selfish. If that's what you want, then sobeit.

  • @almeripieters4330
    @almeripieters4330 17 днів тому +2

    Agree let it be dont turn a Canadian story into a American one

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 17 днів тому

      Too late....the show foresaw that Trump would make Canada a state with a governor.

  • @mary-francesdeangelis327
    @mary-francesdeangelis327 17 днів тому +1

    I've missed an entire season, and not because I wasn't looking, whatever was on the TV was just the beginning of Lucas and Elizabeth's relationship! Jeez Now her and Nathan might marry. Why is this show so far behind in Canada

  • @vandanerisgomes9009
    @vandanerisgomes9009 15 днів тому +2

    Acredito QUE Jack foi um bom ator fez um bom papel , mas agora chega Jack tá morto e precisa continuar assim, Nathan e maravilhoso excelente ATOR também , e Nathan é Elizabeth precisam ficar juntos e simplesmente fantástico maravilhoso

  • @vandanerisgomes9009
    @vandanerisgomes9009 15 днів тому +2

    Nathan é Elizabeth juntos fantástico espero o casamento , casal magnífico lindo

  • @nicolevigil-qk1er
    @nicolevigil-qk1er 17 днів тому +11

    I stopped watching this show as soon as they bed hopped Elizabeth with Nathan now. STUPID! What a disappointment 😞

  • @zenobiahampton-mitchell3843
    @zenobiahampton-mitchell3843 17 днів тому +3

    I'm all for Jack coming back. It started off with Jack that would be amazing. A lot of you love those stupid Soaps so why not. It would just be a great love story.

  • @julesc3089
    @julesc3089 17 днів тому +6

    Now if Jack came back, then I would watch it. Otherwise, no!

  • @KarlaWestphal-f7g
    @KarlaWestphal-f7g 18 днів тому +12

    I still think that Lucas and Elizabeth are end game that Elizabeth should be with Lucas or they bring should bring Jack back her heart belongs to Jack who is the love of Elizabeth life and then Lucas is her other love of her friends.

    • @KarlaWestphal-f7g
      @KarlaWestphal-f7g 18 днів тому +4

      Lucas is Elizabeth other love of her life.

    • @alyce831
      @alyce831 17 днів тому +5

      Sorry but her and Lucas not endgame. She literally felt he was the only safe option due to his job.

    • @simchanachamu6660
      @simchanachamu6660 17 днів тому +1

      If Jack is taken out, I will quit watching . Jack and Elizabeth had a lot of trials to go through to get to their marriage. THEN Jack dies ?? No that's not a good ending.

    • @craigaholic1
      @craigaholic1 17 днів тому +2

      Are you not caught up? Daniel left the show 6 years ago. Jack has been gone since. Daniel wanted to leave the show and he did....6 years ago. We are on season 12 starting this coming Sunday.

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 17 днів тому

      @@alyce831 That's what Rosemary put in her head. She wanted Lucas because he seemed secure and comfortable. Go back and check. When Lucas had to run for governor, he was no longer secure and comfortable....so she ran to Nathan who is secure and comfortable: "You feel like home to me"; "Its your heart that makes me feel brave". There is so much irony in this story, it is hard to follow.

  • @ThreasaColeman
    @ThreasaColeman 16 днів тому +1

    Hopefully he left her enough to build the house he wanted for her ..not fair to put Elizabeth in this predicament.she truly loved jack .but he wanted to move on . don't bring him back..as far as lucas and Elizabeth the passionate kisses they shared the way he pushed her to do something with her books so many good things very sexy man..but she left the fast life to be in a small country town..theres Nathan and Elizabeth are they made for one another theres alot of positive reasons to be together.. just choose someone so it doesn't make her look bad being a school teacher..at least they just hold hands and kiss nothing else..

  • @karensturgis6093
    @karensturgis6093 15 днів тому +1

    I hope they do bring Jack back. They could have made a mistake in identifying who it was. I don't care if it is a training exercise. It is a soap opera already. Give me a break after 12 seasons, you don't think this show is a soap opera? Why do people keep watching week after week. Because it's a story, and it changes. It is nothing like the books anymore at all. Back in these days, bodies were identified, mistakenly, guy shows up alive. Daniel Lissing coming back could be a great thing. Stop complaining about it, none of this is real, it a great show, and I love watching it.

  • @SuperTurkeycaller
    @SuperTurkeycaller 15 днів тому +1

    would love to have Jack be back on the show

  • @lindalacey9671
    @lindalacey9671 17 днів тому +2

    Jack is alive

  • @janmartell9792
    @janmartell9792 17 днів тому +1

    Sooo cheesy

  • @debbiesevarns7300
    @debbiesevarns7300 14 днів тому +1

    I hope Jack comes back alive or it will be boring

  • @ginatrahan9993
    @ginatrahan9993 15 днів тому +2

    I never liked Lucas

    • @chelseakkong
      @chelseakkong 14 днів тому +1

      I never liked Nathan

    • @JeanetteJensen-td6jx
      @JeanetteJensen-td6jx 4 дні тому +1

      I always liked them both, and Elizabeth. Now I only like Lucas. Nathan and Elizabeth have questionable morals, and are selfish and unkind.

  • @ginatrahan9993
    @ginatrahan9993 15 днів тому +1

    They should bring Jack back

  • @carolynchappell5059
    @carolynchappell5059 14 днів тому +3

    No Jack we love her w Nathan