Norwest Google Maps Time Capsule
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2024
- Let's go back in time to 2009 when the Totally Home homemaker shoping centre (mall) existed at Bella Vista in Norwest business park. Now it's a Sydney Metro train station.
I like Abandoned Mall videos, so this is probably the closest we have to that in Sydney.
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I *strongly* encourage everyone to take their camera out and capture your general area. You never know when it might be gone.
I live(d) on Fort Myers Beach, Florida. In late 2022, Hurricane Ian came to town, with a 15'-20' storm surge and scraped most buildings off the map. Those which were still standing were badly damaged. Even on the mainland, many buildings were damaged and destroyed.
Much of my childhood is gone. Parks, restaurants, piers, etc., all destroyed. In some cases things survived, only to have developers and city planners decide they wanted all new everything rather than refurbish.
I strongly recommend this as well. My motto is, if the thought of taking a picture crosses my mind, then I absolutely need to take a picture. Before this realization I had a decent amount of photos but interestingly they're all of major events, none of the mundane things that I would see every day until they didn't exist which interesting are the things I find more interesting and nostalgic. Also just super useful for a lot of practical stuff like 'wait, was this always like this?'.
Yep. Where I used to live we used to shop at a strip mall near sort of end of town and then it would sort of open up into rural again. Just as this transition went through there was a beautiful old barn made of terra-cotta tiles? Beautiful smooth brick. Right before we left they tore it down it’s empty for a few years and then they’ve built some thing on it and I think it burned down or something. Don’t think we ever got pictures of it although there’s at least 20 rolls of film in our refrigerator that need to get developed.
Where we moved to we used to drive by this corner with an old wood barn on it it got knocked down fencing got put up and it turned into a used car lot where they just parked the used cars on the grass or sometimes heavy equipment auction.
Looks like a midlife crisis to me.
@@Okurka. We take our surroundings, life, and lifestyle for granted. It doesn't matter your age. When suddenly everything disappears, it's quite jarring. Having even just a grainy photo, or phone video of things has meaning.
@@Okurka. Stop making disrespectful comments. Thanks.
Dave, top left the black box where it shows your location, click on "show more dates" at the bottom next to get a photo timeline of all the shots taken by street view.
Dave is a Boomer when it comes to using computers.
Came to post this...yeah - you don't need to move around the streetview map to chance on an old photo if you force the date range. :)
Thought Clive Peters was an appliance retailer that went out of business. I just checked on Wikipedia and found out the payroll manager committed fraud by inflating the payroll and pocketing the difference to a total of over $20 million!
Yeah that sounds right. The Clive Peeters near me (Derwent Park, Tas) became a Harvey Norman about 10 years ago I think.
Google Earth gives some good 'historical imagery' aerial views of this area.
Proper Google Earth desktop / Google Earth Pro licences were "free" with an email address. Not the shitty web apps.
It’s probably been mentioned but the timeline is on the top left when you’re in street view. It has the date and “show more dates” It always defaults to newest image.
8:50 That feature is on Google Earth Pro (the desktop version). Thankfully it's still available and free to use
its also on the web version..in the layers settings.. you can do a timeline..
@@WacKEDmaN unfortunately, they seem to have removed it, and replaced it with "Timelapse" which doesn't work, even on my fast internet. And you cannot pause it. But correct me if I'm wrong
@@uDidWatt timeline worked perfectly fine for me... you cant zoom in too far..coz there was no imagery that was as high detail as today...
@@WacKEDmaN It's just the See more dates link that's on the left top of the screen.
This old shopping centre has not disappeared. Ironically, it still/now lives in UA-cam on the EEVblog2 channel.
It also lives on StreetView if you know how to use it.
Harvey Norman has been so well known as "hardly normal" that if you plug "hardly normal" into a Google search, the first result is Harvey Norman.
The people who owned the shopping center should have realized that you can restock the shelves when they are empty, they didn't have to tear the whole place down.
On street view you can click on "see more dates" at the top left of the screen. Then you can see a showcase of every view in that location so you don't have to move around to get an old view.
Google maps have so far kept their archive history for 15 years. Something like that will be kept until that exact area that they have mapped is redeveloped, and google needs to re-map. You can actually choose when to go back, but how long they will keep it isn't set in stone. For now you can go as far back as 15 years. Top left corner you will see a clock if there is historical data for the location.
15years? i could go back to 1984... i really depends on the imagery they have for various countries and regions...
@@WacKEDmaN 15 years is about right for most areas. Google streets started in 2008 (?), any images before that they got from locals councils and so on.
There is the NSW Historical Imagery Viewer. The aerial photos go back to around WW2. There aren't images for every year, or all areas, and you don't get street view, but it is interesting.
Dave, in Yankee land, we call those strip malls
Ah, right. In this case it's more specificly dedicated to "home maker" type stores. Like you wouldn't find a clothing store in a homemaker centre for example. Is that the same with Strip Malls?
@EEVblog2 you're right now that I think about the strip malls here in America kind of have a mix of everything for sale
@@EEVblog2 This may not answer the question that was asked, but here in the UK such a place would be a retail park/outlet, with the distinction being that the goods being sold in outlets are primarily clothes. It would appear that the distinction made in Australia, a "homemaker centre" is exclusive to your neck of the woods! Congratulations. No retail park that I am familiar with is contains solely "homemaker" shops, but even those where it is the primary focus make no further distinction and likely contain some other service; be it food, a cinema, some card shop that has no other home, and so on.
They can also be called outdoor malls, they aren't typically specialized to any type of retail, it's usually mixed retail and often times there will also be restaurants in these spaces as well.
We have strip joints in Australia, but they’re different…
For some reason Google Maps makes it incredibly easy to view historical streetview imagery (the "See more dates" in the top left) but to my knowledge completely impossible to view historical satellite imagery, while Google Earth Pro desktop app is the other way round. I regularly have to open both of them when I want to look at old stuff like this.
If you download the desktop version of Google earth you can also get a historic satellite picture of a lot of areas. Not as good as street view or as high resolution of maps updated in the last few years, but it is a great resource for seeing how the world has changed. Some major European cities even have archival 1940s/50s photos taken after the war.
Its funny how for Cherrybrook its all green areas and medium density, yet no clear indication of any local shops permitted... I presume everyone is expected to take the Metro to Castle Hill for some milk or the morning paper... I don't think the handful of small commercial units at the station will cut it. Plus the bus service North from Castle Hill and Cherrybrook is next to useless, last bus our way is like around 8.30pm!
Its also funny its in the most 'greened' area. What a lot of people don't realise is quite a few trees can be removed with the stroke of a pen. The planners know this well.
Google street-views (in the UK at least) are archived with each successive update and you can step back in time. The overview maps unfortunately only show latest imagery. Yes it's sad when places where you have a lot of memories are demolished. My school and both of the colleges where I did my BTEC engineering diplomas are wiped out of existence, just houses there now. I wish I had taken more photos when I was there!
Not sure if we have a name for these kind of arrangements in Austria; but I've seen them around: shopping zones with a mandatory pet store and home improvement center, vrious other shops around. I think owning a lot with a building on it might be better for businesses than renting a shoebox in a mall with extrem monthly rents... Especially for shops that are not "every day needs", like a "tile shop".
Gewerbepark?
@@napoleonfeanor Possibly... but that one I see more commonly used for generic business areas with smaller factories lumped togehter; less for shops. Again, might be a regional thing.
That roundabout looked perfectly good
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Click "see more dates" when in street view.
JW computers? I thought Dave got all his computer stuff from 'Dumpsters Inc' in the basement?
Earlier Googlemaps had that clock-logo, but now you can change date by "see more dates". What is pity you cannot change the aerial pic dates too. I have looked a bit of erosion in England coastline. Quite interesting when seeing house-blocks and next date and oh, there is only sea!
The Proper People do a lot of videos on abandoned malls, also power stations and other interesting stuff.
We always call these "mini-malls". Where multiple store fronts are all connected together like this. Of course in a "mall" the store fronts are indoors; so I'm not sure how or why it got the name.. But these are mini-malls around here in Oklahoma.
I bet that old shopping center was not older than 30 years.
i watch those abandoned mall videos as well
Nice history recap.
Google needs to add a 'time machine' feature, a lot of interesting historic photos over time.
I wonder what the 'See more dates' does.
what you call a homemakers center we would call either a strip mall or a plaza.
Those abandoned mauls seem kind of crazy, where have all the people gone, surely they need to shop etc.
As for this one, that must have cost a fortune, assuming all the businesses were healthy and not looking for a quick exit, more blown tax money.
(On my iPad) Go to google maps, chance map type to streetview. Click on the location you want to view. I get a splitscreen, one side the helicopter view, other side the street view. In the streetview side , under side screen is a pop-up box, in there the several year option if available. Sometimes just one or two years, my home about 12 years.
It's kinda crazy to just level such busy place. I'm sure they forked over a pretty penny to overcome resistance to move.
It's Twin/Lone Pine Mall, the shopping mall stuck in another space-time continuum.
Legend pretend customers are still living in this other reality. Time to proceed to checkout.... in the Twilight Zone.
I wonder I want you to make a tour of the old Olympic grounds
Here they avoid these abandoned malls and builidings: No new property are developed or build till the old ones are used again
Also the citry plans for new areas to build are limited and getting smaller and smaller. Industrial zones have been moved close to the Autobahn and industry inside the city is no longer wanted, only on the outskirts.
Rules are strict, even for tesla.
Yes - and the new build ones are really depressing and ugly ... and unironically build into the already small free spaces of other high rise buildings. I visited one of these "developments" two weeks ago, and thought about shooting myself after having been there only 10 minutes. That happens if you elect the nutty greens.
Cherrybrook is surrounded by million dollar standalone homes. They need to put high density adjacent to the station there too.
It's a strip mall but there would not be that many of the same type allowed in the same strip mall. I worked in a supermarket with a pharmacy and another pharmacy wanted to come in but couldn't because they area only allowed one pharmacy in the strip mall my store was in.
Yes, this is very specifically a homemaker centre, with onyl store selling homewares type stuff.
Riding a virtual DeLorean! Can you do 88mph on those curvy roads? Wait... we don't need roads anymore, right?
The shopping center had some nice plants in the parking lot.
Are roads solar? ,)
Just do 88 down the middle of the carpark
In my part of the US that would be called a strip mall but I have also since moved south and learned that there are many other names. I can’t think of what it would be called in the south at the moment I just know that it’s not a name that makes sense.
-28.0741585, 153.3816276 used land that's been sitting there for decades, and it's right near somewhat big shopping centre.
Translation: Maccas = McDonalds.... Servo = gas station
Interesting. i didn't know there were SUBWAY stores down under. We have them here in Canada but I prefer Mr. Sub.
I had no idea you guys had Subway in Australia - I thought that was an American chain only!
Americans can get their junk food all over the world.
Google will eventually remove it, people can report an issue with the imagery. If buildings get built on it and its private property, it will probably stay up longer. if housing gets built there, it will probably be updated quicker. Google are constantly updating and its not always logical how they do it. generally the more traffic there is, the more the maps will get updated. hence the outback still looking like potato vision.
It's not removed; it's archived under 'See more dates'.
Personally, I think the government shouldn't wait for developers, they need to get on with building affordable housing themselves, since developers aren't going to do it for them. They should hire architects, engineers, project managers, contractors, and start filling these empty spaces with so many units that it not only satisfies demand, but makes up for decades of deliberate suppression of new housing. Then perhaps it might help stop the insanity that is Sydney property prices.
Social housing? Like we used to do? Sounds like commie socialist talk to me!
But yeah, how are politicians going to get campaign "donations" from developers if the government starts building housing?
i couldnt believe how built up from around castle hill out to windsor is now... i remember it all being bush and farm land.. the tall appartment buildings in castle hill blew me away...feels claustrophobic down there these days....
...btw..check out google earth instead of maps.. you can access more historical images...
Yep, it used to be orange orchards and farm land. Mrs EEVblog used to walk through bush land that is now our house when she was in school nearby.
@@EEVblog2 i was just looking at google earth...has a timeline back to 1984!... it amazing to see how it built up out there over the years
It's some sort of portal.
We call it Gewerbeparks
think they wanted to get rid of the 1950 mall look XD
And the asbestos.
What will happen to these houses that have been rezoned? Will they get demolished? Should developers pay the full market price to the owners at least? It's sad that in most places you can't own a house that is guaranteed to last a lifetime and be passed down to your grandchildren and their children
Nothing for the moment. Eventually when the owners do sell they'll get knocked down for apartment blocks.
I don't even have to pick a weird place to view a time capsule, the street view last came by in 2012, meaning that pretty much every store in a small city has completely changed or shut down
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Ahh, forcibly converted to nice new "high densitry" "mixed use" buildings - where you will own nothing and supposedly be happy, because nothing is all that will fit in your small expensive apartment. ;)
Fun fact: it's possible to build larger apartments.
@@eDoc2020 Then they wouldn't really be "high density". The "high density" idea is to compress as many human bodies on a space as small as possible ... for the environment or something.
Building cost are also higher per m² - that's why it is primarily done in cities with inflated land prices.
Imagine the cost of an apartment in high density house, that would the same quality of life as Daves house - same m², garden (as a terrasse), outdoor swimming pool, garage - not to speak of the space for the solar panels. Would likely be unaffordable.
Best thing they can do with that land is plant trees. I hate city's. Even most big towns are a mess in my opinion. I live out in the country in nature. Closest neighbor is probably a 15+ minute walk from me. A traffic jamb around here is waiting for a herd of deer to cross the road. Thankfully I'll be dead before they complete the plan to completely cover the planet with black top and concrete.
Needs more places to charge EV vehicles that will change the planet and save us
Joni Mitchell would be pleased that we tore down a parking lot and made paradise, but it ain't gunna happen. Trees? People is Sydney absolutely HATE trees.
>.> as to why someone would want to destroy what little natural green spaces Sydney has.. is so dumb :\ I rather it be turned into a natural area (plant trees), or at least a park, instead of some ugly commercial building.
15 Minute Cities 😉
Gotta get the clicks from the all important nutter crowd.
Only a matter of time until they build the fence to keep Dave in 😂
When I heard Dave say “15 minutes away” I thought that was going to attract the cooker comments :-/
Bro! I've been waiting for your Baltimore bridge collapse video! Where is it? I heard the crash maybe an electrical fault and criminal activity. Please weigh in on this important topic with your extensive knowledge for big views yo!
Oh, eff off with your stupid conspiracy bollocks, Dave knows as much about bridges & ships as the rest of us.
You save money by not doing maintenance. There, you now know the answer to most "accidents", including this one.
Go do something useful with your life, like learn engineering so you can do your own analysis.
AvE does bridge collapse investigations.